How Big Was This Toy Baby?!
35 min
•Apr 2, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Armstrong and Getty discuss the US-China space race for lunar dominance, including NASA's Artemis mission and plans to build nuclear reactors on the moon. The show also covers career development psychology, homelessness in LA, and controversial gender identity issues.
Insights
- US media largely ignores the strategic competition with China over lunar resources and military positioning, focusing instead on diversity narratives rather than geopolitical implications
- China's centralized government structure provides advantages in long-term space planning versus US administration-to-administration policy whipsawing
- Early career success can lock people into unsustainable paths; exploration and failure in your 20s often leads to better long-term outcomes than premature achievement
- SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket technology gives the US a significant current advantage in launch capability, but China is rapidly catching up
- Progressive institutional capture has shifted Democratic Party positions dramatically on immigration and border enforcement within 30 years
Trends
Geopolitical competition shifting from terrestrial to space domain with military implicationsPrivate sector (SpaceX) becoming critical to US government space objectives and competitivenessDelayed career specialization becoming psychologically healthier than early commitment to single career pathInstitutional capture by progressive ideology affecting policy consistency across decadesChina's robotic space missions achieving milestones (far side moon landing) ahead of US capabilitiesNuclear power infrastructure becoming essential component of deep space exploration strategyMedia narrative framing diverging from strategic/competitive reality in coverage of space programs
Topics
US-China Space Race and Lunar DominanceNASA Artemis Mission and Moon Base ConstructionNuclear Reactors on the MoonSpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket TechnologyCareer Development and Early Success PsychologyHomelessness and Mental Health in Los AngelesImmigration Policy and Birthright CitizenshipMedia Bias in Science ReportingChina's Robotic Space MissionsMilitary Applications of Space TechnologyDemocratic Party Policy Evolution on ImmigrationHarvard Psychology Research on Career TimingIran Execution RecordsGender Identity and Support Group AccessSunk Cost Fallacy in Career Decisions
Companies
People
Jared Isaacman
Stated US may be early while China is conservative in lunar timeline estimates; emphasized goal is to stay on moon
Jack Armstrong
Co-host discussing space race, career psychology, and political topics
Joe Getty
Co-host analyzing geopolitical implications of space competition and media bias
Neil Armstrong
Referenced as first person to land on moon in 1969; mentioned as father of Lance Armstrong
Elon Musk
Referenced for SpaceX work and stated goals to land on moon, build AI power plant, and reach Mars
Donald Trump
Discussed for private White House audio clip and credited with revitalizing US space program momentum
James Carville
Former Clinton campaign manager predicting Democratic investigations of Trump family if they gain House majority
Diane Feinstein
Early 1990s clip cited showing Democratic party's historical stance on illegal immigration enforcement
Jamila Robinson
Identified as mother of three living in LA sewers; refused family and city assistance multiple times
Quotes
"This time the goal is not flags and footprints this time the goal is to stay."
Jared Isaacman, NASA Administrator•Mid-episode
"Virtually all of our media would be embarrassed by, they can't bring themselves to be seen rooting for the United States of America."
Jack Armstrong•Space race discussion
"You're not meant to have lived life fully and figured it all out at 25. You're meant to discover who you're not."
Harvard Psychologist•Career psychology segment
"There's time to change the road you're on."
Robert Plant reference•Career discussion
"How many of us or anybody you know is doing a job you knew existed when you were a teenager?"
Joe Getty•Career development discussion
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty. And now he is... I'm strong and Getty. They call me king now, do you believe it? No king. I'm such a king I can't get a ballroom approved. Pretty amazing, man. I'm a king. If I was a king, I would be doing a lot more. I'm doing a lot, but I could be doing a lot more if I was a king. Trump in a private setting in the White House that got inadvertently released, I guess. It's pretty interesting to watch. I think I retweeted it. He just sounds a lot different than you're used to hearing him. Talking to friends and stuff. He's just hanging out. Yeah, we've had more than one beloved listener point out that he has, I think in the art of the dealer, in other writings, said... He intentionally thinks about what he says and he keeps it as simple as possible. So a lot of his hesitation, his repetition and stuff is he doesn't want to get into detail and he's stopping himself from getting into detail, which I find curious because I find that one, that clip and the one where he jokes about Macron's wife, punching him in the face, much better communication than his usual public, you know, odd cadence. One thing you got to say about Trump is he does stuff. He doesn't hem and haw about studies and the rest of it. He does stuff. Sometimes for good, sometimes for ill. See Iran, who knows. But also the space program has gotten a kick in the pants and is moving forward at top speed. The Artemis mission blast off yesterday was super cool. I think things are going well other than the somewhat troublesome problem Jack brought up earlier. Yeah, they had a problem with the fan in the bathroom, which I guess sucks the defecate out of you when you have to go potty. No, I think you push it out in the usual way. That would be very uncomfortable. Wow! I was assuming they put a vacuum tube up against your... No! I'm sure that's right. No indeed. No, good Lord. But anyway, the fan was not working, so there was a chance that it was going to be floating around, just floating around the cabin. You don't want that, I assume. Fecal matter. Exactly. That's right, Dr. Johnny Depp. So yeah, I hope they repair that for a number of different reasons, but hell of a thing to go over. I'm sitting on however many billions of dollars worth of technology. You blasted me into space and I got to fix the toilet. And then the S hits the fan, exactly. Exactly. Well, that's what you try to avoid. So, the New York Times interestingly with quite a piece about the race for dominance of the moon between the United States and China. Good! Because it's stunning to me that not a single news story I've heard about this includes that. That is the entire reason we're doing it. I mean, you can talk about how it's the first half-Asian Jewish woman to ever go into space and you can talk about the various experiments they're going to do, which are are interesting and fascinating and cool. But that's not the main driving force, just like it wasn't, that got us to the moon in the first place. It was we were worried the Soviet Union was getting ahead of us in the space race and they were going to, you know, send nuclear missiles up behind ends. I'm going to drop a truth bomb on you right now like you're the Ayatollah. Race yourself. Virtually all of our media would be embarrassed by, they can't bring themselves to be seen rooting for the United States of America. If we are in a race that we must win, they won't even admit that because then they would have to like be pro-US. It's how sick they are. I'm sure you're right. I also think there's a ton of people that have no idea that this is about a space race with China. It's not about the medical experiment we're going to try to do. So it's ignorance as well. I would agree. Yeah. So let's become unignorant, shall we? Both the US and China want to build outposts around the moon's south pole and hope to tap frozen water, hydrogen, and helium there. Both countries plan to build nuclear reactors on the moon to power lunar bases from which they can launch missions into deep space. And it's the new frontier and whoever gets there first will have the big say in setting the rules. It's incredibly important. Both countries want to build nuclear reactors on the moon. Exactly. And mine it for resources to build exploration and or I don't know just off the top of my head military capabilities there. In my lifetime and I've got one foot in the grave, in my lifetime there is going to be a military standoff about space between us and China. Yes. That could easily you know play itself out on the ground. Yeah. We're firing you know rockets at each other in the you know South China Sea over the fact that hey you don't get to land that rocket there where we're building our nuclear reactor. Oh or at least they will take out some key satellite that you know powers the cell phone service for the eastern seaboard and we will retaliate by taking out one of their main satellites and then there will be hasty diplomatic talks. Something like that is practically guaranteed to happen. How is it that every story about the moon doesn't include this? It's a space race with China. I know I'd like to flatter ourselves that that's why people enjoy the show. Yet the lack of curiosity in the media is just so amazing to me. Anyway back to the the main story. According to Jared Isaacman who's the NASA administrator in terms of the space race they may be early and recent history suggests we might be late. The US wants to be back on the moon by 2028 two years ahead of China's target but as he was pointing out we're being optimistic and they're being conservative in their numbers. And here's where it gets interesting and look there are advantages to having a dictatorship. It's unholy and violates all the laws of nature and god but it's handy in some ways. China is pursuing its lunar ambitions with singular formidable focus and they have several advantages over us. Experts say China's edge lies in its centralized control which allows it to plan and fund projects for decades at a time and no like whipsawing back and forth from one administration to another. Its robotic space missions have already gone where we have not. China is the only nation to land on and retrieve samples from the far side of the moon the hemisphere that always faces away from earth. This summer China's seventh robotic mission Changi seven will explore the lunar south pole and probably exploit the lunar penguins. Yes. How much energy do they put into making sure they have racially and sexual orientation diversity among their astronauts? Ha. Ha. I know. Ha. I know. I know. So they also point out that China's immediate ambition is a bit leaner. Chinese astronauts plan to land on a relatively accessible near side of the moon where Neil Armstrong landed more or less in 1969. Your your uncle Jack. American astronauts are aiming for the moon's south pole. They do mention that the the US has gotten serious mostly under Trump and overhauled the program to have more launches to test components gain confidence and lower risks. After returning the astronauts to the moon NASA plans to launch missions every six months and sustain the presence there so we get really really good at it. Here's the key statement from Mr. Isakson the NASA administration administrator. This time the goal is not flags and footprints this time the goal is to stay. My uncle Neil Armstrong father of Lance Armstrong son of Louis Armstrong. It's quite the family tree. Oh, it really is. Yes. Don't get your kite caught in that family tree. You'll be stuck for good. Um so we're gonna we're gonna land there at some point and stay. And then China's gonna try to land in a different spot and then it's gonna be Chinese moon Marines to take over our base. And that's gonna be something to watch unfold. Here's some more fact factage for you. China is pursuing similar goals through two programs that will likely merge crude missions under the military's purview and civilian robotic missions both rely on technology built by the same big Chinese communist corporation that shares key technologies between those two sides. Well, NASA relies more on more heavily on private vendors. Yeah, I was gonna ask about Elon and SpaceX. I wonder how all this fits in. I mean, do they consult with him? Because I mean, he wants to land on the moon and build a power plant for AI and you know he's got goals to get to Mars and dude does he work with NASA on? I'd kind of like to use this spot and we're gonna use this spot and I wonder. I don't even. I'll bet they are coordinating in various ways, technical ways that I would know about, but they actually reference the fact that we are way ahead of China for now in rocketry partly because of SpaceX's amazing work, the Falcon 9 rocket they highlight in particular where China's kind of playing catch-up on that technology. The American launcher is a marked improvement on the system. The first sent astronauts to the moon. It is a powerful and complicated rocket cobbled together from components made by NASA and multiple contractors, but they mentioned that the rocket's been used many times on Wednesday. It blasted off for its first crewed mission and was a huge success. It went beautifully. Another advantage that China has is that their population is gonna have nothing but nationalist pride and ego attached to anything they accomplish. Whereas half of our country, unless our politics change in the next decade or two, half of our country is going to be a marching in the street, no colonizing space. Yeah, no settler colonialism on the moon, yeah, exactly. Which is all and has been for a very, very long time a deliberate program by the Soviets, then the Russians and Chinese, to sow discord in our society. And if you take a minute to look into it, you see the fruits of what they're doing. It's worked. They quite wisely went after academia first. That's why colleges and schools are so blanking, screwed up right now. It's really frustrating that not only has it worked, but most Americans, they would hear what I just said and think, oh, he's kind of paranoid or something. No, they actually set out what they were going to do. They wrote it down and signed their names to it. But I come in every day and try. I try to lift the, what was the expression in the Bible? The scales from your eyes. The Bible. The Bible, that's right, sir. They call me a king. I can't even get a ballroom approved. Ancient James Carville, the raging Cajun, got Bill Clinton elected, just dropped a truth bomb, what it's going to be like if and probably when the Democrats take over Congress. Good God. Yeah, I think he's right too. Plus an update on these subterranean soren keys of LA. Cool. All on the way. Stay here. According to a Harvard psychologist, and I bring this up because I agree with it, if you have not accomplished anything by 25, or if your kids have not accomplished anything by 25, it's not only not a big deal, it's quite possibly preferable. I found this fascinating. Stay too. So you got to be old to know who James Carville is. He helped Bill Clinton get elected in 92. I mean, that's the highlight of his political career and has a long time ago. Anyway, I think he understands politics pretty well. And he just gloated, I guess, that when the Dems take back the House and have the power of the gavel and subpoena and all the stuff that comes with being the House majority, they're going to go, he said about Trump, they're going to go after you and then they're going to go after your stupid jackass kids and their spouses and all of their financial connections. That was uncharitable. And you know what? That is exactly what's going to happen. We are going to get so bogged down. If the Democrats take back the House, I think they probably will with investigations of Trump and his family, because there's a lot happening and a lot of it doesn't look good. Yeah. The cryptocurrency stuff is going to be incredibly damaging. It's shameless. It really is. Or if what he's doing, a lot of policies, but it's shameless or if they can connect any dots on, for instance, that insider trading around the oil when he made that announcement a week or so ago, him or anybody in the family. Right. Right. That's going to be ugly. Oh boy. Oh, that's going to happen. I bet money on it. Let's briefly remind ourselves of the subterranean sewer junkie situation we discussed last week. Michael, if you'd be some kind. An up close, exclusive look underground at living conditions too extreme for words. It's hard to imagine someone leaving it in there. Trash, human waste, and an overpowering stench. I gotta get back. Just moments earlier, we watched someone climb out of that storm drain using the sewer as shelter. Water. Her answers hard to understand. But the area 88th and South Grand overwhelmed with RVs, tents and trash. And as part of that report, they talked to a man on the street who said, come on, these people have been here for nine months. We've got to do something for them. The city needs to move in. You're typical, you know, compassionate left dish response. Well, the woman who became widely known as the subterranean sewer junkie, as I characterized her, has been identified as a mother of three. Good Lord. Jamila Robinson once known. Is the woman identified and living in an underground encampment filled with human waste and toxic materials. She has refused help from her family, including her mother who's been in contact with her. Robinson's mother, Linda Blaine drugs when asked how her daughter may have gotten herself into this situation. Wait a second. You should have said you're going to want to sit down for this. Because that's shocking news. Mom went on to say it's the second time she's been in the sewer. Living down there. I'm saddened to see. Oh, LA city services has offered Jamila help multiple times, but videos shared by Fox 11 show the 43 year old homeless woman walking away. Family's not heard from her since. If it was the daughter, sister, mother of the mayor, where would they take them? She told Fox instead of just allowing them to walk away. The family says there's not enough enforcement and more needs to be done than simply asking her offering help. Quote, just take her because she's not mentally able to think straight for herself. The distressed mother said, yeah, man. If you had a family member like that, then probably some of you listening do. I'll bet it's shocking how difficult it is to get anybody to intercede in their life. Yeah. And she appears to be probably all those. This is hard to say definitively because I want to be fair. She looks like a person who ruined her brain with drugs and now her brain doesn't work. It's possible she turned to drugs because of mental illness, but in any rate, she can't possibly help herself. And for whatever reasons, mostly progressives, we can't get people like her off the street. We got millions of people like that. What are we going to do with them? How's it great cost forever for the rest of their natural lives? Good question. Yeah. If you haven't accomplished anything by 25, don't sweat it. Among other things coming up. I think it's going to be an interesting segment, a number of interesting things for you. Start here. This is horrifying, but interesting. The Islamic Republic of Iran. Get her remember, that's the actual name of the country. The Islamic Republic of Iran is on track to exceed the record number of executions that it has ever carried out with 657 executions in the first three months of this year. Wow. So they are not slowing down on being an awful regime because of this attack. Somebody needs to tell them that's the religion of peace. That's slaughtering people by the tens of thousands. And that's a record number of executions in addition to machine gunning 30,000 of their young people during the protests. That's a heck of a story. Another completely different story. This is an old timey clip of Senator Diane Feinstein from the early 90s when she was a much younger, but still middle-aged because she's old. It's kind of funny referring to the 90s as old timey, but I get it. Early 90s, yeah. What is that? 30 years ago? Diane Feinstein. So this is a perfect clip to listen to because of recent news. You got one, you got the birthright citizenship thing and you know, illegals and what benefits they get, along with all the fraud that we've got going on in California around some of this stuff. This is Diane Feinstein talking in the early 90s. Should you have a system where people can come to this country, even if they're well to do, get on Medicaid and give birth to a baby and then go back? The answer is no. And we know that Medicaid laws are being used and abused to do just this in the state of California. I'd like to see that stop. About 13% of the California prison population costing close to $300 million a year are illegal aliens. I've had judges in Los Angeles and Orange County tell me one half of their criminal dockets are illegal aliens. Presently, a convicted illegal alien has the option serving their sentence in California or being returned to their country of origin. I think that option ought to be removed. That is why you could be a Democrat back in the day. Because I was just thinking if somebody's over 40 and they say, yeah, I used to be a Democrat, don't hold that against them. They're saying they just had some different points of view. That Democratic party does not rule the day. There are like 15 different things there that she said that would keep you from getting the nomination for president and the Democratic party now, even using the term illegal or suggesting that they commit lots of crimes or stealing benefits. Wow. It's amazing. That is how effective the postmodern takeover of our schools has been. They've moved the Democratic party that far. It's amazing. Yeah. Okay. So completely different topic. Maybe I can't find it. I do hate the fact that a lot of websites online, at least on my phone, that if you click off your phone and you go back to them, they reset for some reason. Newspapers, stuff like that. I don't know why they do that. Why did they make them that way? Anyway, I found it. This is on the topic. If you haven't achieved anything by 25, don't worry about it. How about if you haven't achieved anything by 65? I'm still hoping. I still got some time. A Harvard psychologist said this a couple of years ago. Interesting thought starter. If you've achieved nothing by 25, you've avoided the most destructive illusion of youth, said this Harvard psychologist at a lecture. At first, the room laughed. She wasn't kidding. It's all about the illusion of early success. In your early 20s, the brain seeks quick proof of worth, status, attention, rapid achievements. I think I remember that. But psychologists warn that chasing recognition too soon can lock people into roles or paths that they never consciously chose. They decide too early and spend years trying to undo it. Research on career development suggests that people who explore more before 30, explore more before 30, often build stronger, long-term directions. Testing ideas, making mistakes in public, changing course. At 25, it can look like confusion. But by 35, it often turns into clarity. It kind of fits in with your story of going one direction and then decide you want to be on the radio and then you do that. People who feel behind in their mid-20s frequently gain something others miss. Perspective, patience, and a clear sense of what truly matters to them. That foundation often leads to better decisions later on. At the end of the lecture, this Harvard psychologist left the students with one final thought. You're not meant to have lived life fully and figured it all out at 25. You're meant to discover who you're not. Wow, can you send that to me? I would like to distribute that to certain young people who I care about a great deal. That's pretty interesting. Now, when they say they haven't accomplished anything at age 25, how little? I mean, are they potty trained? Tire shoes? Can you tie your shoes? Oh, boy, it is to laugh. I get that. I totally get that. It's funny. Having not been plagued with immediate success, I'm having to think about what that would be like. I can picture it like in the Hollywood set or among sports stars that who you are, I mean, to your core, becomes something that's either probably unsustainable or, in the case of athletes, absolutely unsustainable. I've known a couple of PhDs, two, two total, but I've known two in my life that really wish they hadn't locked themselves into a particular line of study that was going to dominate the rest of their lives and make that decision at age 21. Right. Yeah. Speaking to that there. There's probably a little sunk cost fallacy going on there, too, but I haven't lived their lives, so I wouldn't know. Well, I don't know. I got to believe that pretty much every doctor we all ever go to made that decision pretty young and they're happy with it. I would assume. Does everybody understand what the sunk cost fallacy is? I don't, clarity is my hallmark, as Michael can tell you. Not yelling at the staff. It's the idea that, well, I've already spent this much time and effort doing this, so I guess I have to keep doing it. No, don't throw good time after bad. Change your course. As the great Robert Plant put it, there's time to change the road you're on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, that's right. So I'm thinking about this because I'm again, I got one foot in the grave. My life is over. I'm in the winter of my life. So all these decisions have been made for me, but my kids who are both going to be high schoolers next year, I could easily see if they're 25 and flailing thinking, oh my God, they're doomed, but I shouldn't based on what I just read. It's funny. I can still feel, I can still so easily picture my mood at the time, Gladys. I'm pretty sure I was 23, had decided I wasn't going to go to law school, at least not immediately, and I was trying to figure out what I did want to do. And I felt like I was at sea and not, just not ever to be rescued because I saw some of my friends who were, you know, business majors or engineering majors or whatever, and they started and they'd talk about their starting salary and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm a maroon. I'm like a piece of trash being blown about by the wind. What shall I do at age 23? And I tried to communicate that to my kids. Well, I guess I got my own version of that having, you know, studied hard to take the test to get into an MBA program because the MBA was the hot degree in the 80s. If you want to be successful in the world, you had to get an MBA. That was the big deal with Japan on the rise and all that sort of stuff. And I was in that for one year of the two and I hated all the people and I thought, I wouldn't, I know, every description of what you're going to do for a living sounded awful to me. And so, and so it's like this, you're meant to discover who you're not. I discovered who I'm not. I'm not a person. I mean, a lot of you do that and love it, but I would not. And it would have been terrible for me to continue in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Discovering who you're not and what you're not interested in is important. Oh, yeah, it's liberating. In a way that's very difficult to explain to kids because you don't want to, as I've explained before, the world will kick their dreams bloody soon enough. You don't need to be seen as the lead, you know, in that effort. I finally figured that out. So it's tough to over, you don't want to over explain that, but yeah, figuring out what you're bad at is incredibly helpful. Yes, Michael. Yeah. I had a friend that went to school for six years to be an engineer, got his first job, then realized he hated being an engineer. Oh, God, that would be, oh, when that realization dawned upon you, you'd be so sad. You know, one of my favorite examples of this, and I know he wouldn't mind me sharing this at all is my good friend and good friend of the show, Mike, the attorney from Chicago, who got out of college at the University of Illinois, Golanai, with a degree in biological science. And then he became interested in the legal part of biological science and got a law degree and practiced in that area, then decided, you know, the biological science thing isn't nearly as interesting as just human beings. And so he got into like the other part of law, and it's now very happy and successful and the rest of it. And I mean, that, that those transitions in compass, encompassed his twenties and thirties, and I think maybe early forties. So yeah, just hang in there, figure it out. Yeah, the difficulty of explaining to kids and then raising kids and watching them, I suppose, when my kids get older is how many people do you know that got to the point they're at now, like on purpose? Or I mean, with a plan that you could have designed? It's just, it's just, there's so many random things that happen. I brought this up to a bunch of golf buddies of mine the other day, and it got a pretty good laugh. I said, how many of us or anybody you know is doing a job you knew existed when you were a teenager? Very few of us. Now, I know there are exceptions. Like I've got a niece who's in a, you know, she's a cowboy. She is, she wants to be a doctor. She's always wanted to be a doctor. She finished undergraduate. Now she's in medical school and probably work out fine for. And you know, I've known plenty of people that want to be a cop, and they, they become a cop and they're a cop for decades. So it happens. But most of the time. Oh, yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah. I just think as a kid, you presume that it's nearly 100%. Yeah. You declare as some adult, ask you what you want to do when you grow up. You tell them, and that's what you become. Well, sometimes, but Instagram influencer, because that's what everybody wants to be. Oh, sit down son or daughter. We need to talk. One more thing on this before we take a break. So this lecture was in the 2021, you know, modern era. Would you have given that lecture? I mean, because like when my parents started out, they, they got married in the early 20s and had my mom had me at 22. And, you know, you accomplished a lot of what you were going to accomplish very early. Is it just the timeline different? I think it's, it's changed. But I think the principal was still there. I mean, I think of my dad and his life and career and being in the military and getting out and trying one thing than another. And yeah, it's, it's fine. Yeah. It's too late for me to change course. Well, he realized that he and my mom had given birth to a juvenile delinquent. So he had to, you know, adjust his sales and lower his expectations. I'll be cleaning up messes for the next 18 years apparently. We'll finish strong next. Our gender bending madness poster child of the day, week, month, year and perhaps ever would be quote unquote Gabrielle Derone. I'm looking at his picture right now. Spent nine months simulating a pregnancy, including this one goes out to you, Katie. Breathe deeply. Okay. Maybe, maybe take off your headphones. I don't know. This is a chance to practice your Lamaze breathing. Including feigned morning sickness and the wearing of a fake belly with the attention, intentional play acting the loss of an imaginary baby. Oh boy. He also joined a support group for grieving, grieving mothers who had lost children. Oh my God. Seeking validation and support for his planned quote unquote stillbirth. Oh my God. Even went so far as to rent a machine that simulated contractions and bought a plastic baby which he inserted into his rectum. Okay. And then quote unquote gave birth to afterwards. No, afterwards. Excuse me. He took two weeks off from work. Yeah, I would quote unquote grieve. Yeah. Well, I'd take two weeks off or something. But I know. Okay. The first part of the story, we've kind of heard those sorts of things before the jam on a toy baby up yo. There's a new angle. It gets worse in a different way. Women who objected to his presence in the group, who had actually lost children were kicked out. Oh my God. So that this man could feel supported in his game of let's pretend that their very real grief was considered less important than this man's sexual fantasies. And it was the progressives in the group that made the ladies lead. Wow. Because they're being transphobic. When is the next rocket to the moon? I'm getting on it and I'm out of here. Wow. What the hell. Yeah. Yeah. He convinced his doctors to provide him with drugs to induce lactation. He asked members of an online breastfeeding group if he'd joined, he'd joined if any of them would be willing to let him breastfeed their babies. Oh my God. No. Really? That's how you end the show. Right. Now we've turned on Joe. It's a memorable note. This is your fault. Oh my God. Bring back mental institutions. I'll save my final thought. Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty. I think we're all having similar Final Thoughts, but let's give them officially from everybody on the crew. Michael Angelo, lead the way, would you? Yeah. This is for any young person that's listening to this show. Get internships, even if they're free internships. Find out what you don't like. That's a good one, Michael. Yeah. Just get exposed to things you normally wouldn't have seen and heard and learned. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie? I can't say mine. Just all get fired or kicked off of the air by the FCC. Yes, we'd all like to do that. Okay. Jack, Final Thought. Do we have a size on this toy baby? Most toy babies are pretty big. He's obsessed, folks. Oh boy. My final thought will be, we're going to do a pretty interesting Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast right after the live presentation is over. If you subscribe to our podcast, Armstrong and Getty On Demand, one more thing downloads automatically. And sometimes, there are swears. So maybe Katie can actually say what she would like to do to this woman. Wow. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday. So many people, thanks a little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com for the hot links. We've got all sorts of interesting videos for you and links to the stories we refer to. If you want to read more, check it out. Pick up some A&G swag. Nice t-shirt. Helps keep everybody on staff during these challenging times. Your favorite A&G fan would enjoy one. You had to do that story again beginning of the show tomorrow. Everybody needs to hear that. Wowsers. I'm just shaking my head. See you tomorrow. God bless America. Armstrong and Getty. The Artemis mission blast off yesterday was super cool, other than the troublesome problem Jack brought up earlier. The fan in the bathroom, which I guess sucks the defecate out of you when you have to go potty. No, no, I think you push it out in the usual way. That would be very uncomfortable. Wow. I was assuming they put a vacuum tube up against your... No, I'm sure that's not it.