‘Just One of the Guys’ With Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt, and Joanna Robinson

the rewatchables is brought to you by the ringer podcast network that's joanna robinson you can find her on house of r the ringer podcast network sure there's a lot of r stuff happening these days you mean thrones thrones is back dragon something not just playing in your sauna anymore also now on hbo are we in the 1200s what century are we that's a great question it's a great question um Kyle Brandt. Hey, bud. I don't know how many rewatchables for you now. Are we over 20? Yeah, I think so. Wow. Only the second we've ever done in person. Yes. The first we've ever done in a three-person group. Absolutely. Are there jackets if you go over 20? Three-timers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 20-timers club? That's a great idea. We should mention your shirt. Do you want to talk about the shirt really quick? This is our friends, Kuroko, who make our favorite movies. I think, how many rewatchables I've done, Bill, like 80% of them were made by these people. including a little film called Over the Top. It's an arm wrestling movie based on truck drivers, and we did it on the show. And so I have the shirt, and I brought a housewarming gift for Bill. I've never been here before, but I brought you a Coralco shirt. Yeah, we became fascinated by this production company, which seemed like a combination of money laundering. It's very shady. The Middle East is involved. It's the best. And they went under. There was a documentary about them. Yeah. They really were spirit animals. Why aren't you wearing the shirts? You guys are twins. Well, because he's wearing it. Yeah. Okay. All right. And you know what? They make really good movies. I don't know about the business. and make damn good movies, though. Well, we wanted to do something really good, especially with Netflix coming up. Yeah. You and I have been circling this one for years. I asked Joanna for a list. It's like, you know, you're going to be in town more. Give me your top ten. Did I put this on my top ten list? You put it on the list. That sounds not true. You did. Okay. It's on there. Okay. And then now we're all together. Just One of the Guys is next. Just one of the guys, 1985. The rewatch that everyone's been clamoring for, right? It was on HBO, I think for 10 straight years after it came out. It's an unbelievable movie. It has become a beloved movie in my family. For some reason, my kids love this movie. There's like five, six 80s movies they absolutely love. this is one of them. What else is on the list? You know, Breakfast Club, Secret Admirer, The Karate Kid. Sure. Can't Buy Me Love is probably number one. We walked into your house today. I just expected Limitless to be on. I was kind of disappointed it wasn't. Might have watched some of it yesterday to get ready for the pod. This is a movie that probably would not be made in 2026, or if it was made, it would be a little different. A little different. Yeah. Why do we love this movie, Kyle Brandt? Well, it's tough to stick the landing on a journalism movie based almost entirely on tits. Very difficult to do. You just don't see them much. And you know, as a fan of the show, Bill, I'm a huge watchables nerd. There's always a lot of talk about The Hang. What is The Hang like? And as an adult watching this movie, The Hang is so fun because there's almost no adults. There's very few teachers. It's just young, pretty, funny people running around and all of them are just trying to get laid. There's such a sexual energy here. and the origin story for a lot of us for this movie goes back to a very special place about two seconds of this movie. It's about 100 minutes long. There's two seconds that really, really resonate for me and that's why it keeps me coming back. And it was a shocking shocking moment the first time you saw it because it's a PG movie. It was a high school movie. They never did stuff like that. There's so many reasons. That's not true. I mean, there's surprise tits all the time in 80s comedies. You're just watching something and all of a sudden there's like, there's booze. So, alright, let's talk this guy right to the main event it's fine what are we doing here we have the award jamie lee curtis trading whoa exactly what's this doing no but i'm talking like breakfast club sure um 16 candles and john hughes didn't do it the john hughes those ones didn't really do it i guess when you moved into the secret of myra they tried to do it can't buy me love didn't do it so it'd be like 50 50 in this one it just seemed like it's actually a plot device and leads to one of the funniest. Maybe. Well, maybe. We'll talk about some of the research with that. It's one of the funniest lines I think anyone said in one of these movies that was unintentionally funny. It's just a movie that would not exist now. We were talking about HBO before we started recording. We didn't have HBO. I didn't watch this on HBO and I didn't watch this on VHS. I watched it on Comedy Central, which means my cut had no tits in it. Oh, what? I didn't know. It was like a quick cut just to his reaction. Yeah, his reaction shot. That's like Top Gun, but there's no planes. That's what we were turning in for. Until we started researching this, I didn't know that this was like with Fast Times as like an all-time or freeze-frame 80s movie. I didn't know that. Love to know. I separated my 80s movies I love into five different groups. I'm just glad you're here for this. I got some groups. Go ahead. Here's the great group. Breakfast Club, Fast Times, Risky Business. Like movies that kind of transcended where we were in the 80s. Okay. The huge group, 16 Candles, Ferris Bueller, Karate Kid. Just big, big, big ass movies. Seminoles, yes. That still have legs to this day. The sports, Vision Quest, All the Right Moves, Lucas, where there's like some sort of sports angle. The horny, crazy movies, Class, Weird Science, Teen Wolf. Yeah. Movies that are just like, there's probably cocaine involved when the script got approved. Teen Wolf is a movie that I don't know how it got made Same here I put Revenge of the Nerds in there too Is that coming? No, my last category is Perfect Perfect? Secret Admirer, Can't Buy Me Love and Just One of the Guys These are movies that just belong to the 80s and that's it I don't think they make sense even three years later three years earlier They have a spirit to them that I like They don't take themselves too seriously you know they're going to end up with the people you want to end up with in the end and they're just going to be ridiculous the entire time. And I think those were the three out of everything. Maybe Weird Science maybe gets thrown in there too. I don't know. That's in the horny category. When we get to picking nits and unanswerable questions, they're endless for this movie. The premise is unbelievable. It doesn't matter. We're having a great time. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Well, Joyce Heiser, there's this whole dialogue that came out of this movie that I wasn't aware of how important it was to like trans people, to the gay community that I just, in the 80s, it was like, I just, I love the little brother. I think he's the funniest. He's basically Bill Murray. But then when they talk about it, like the director, Lisa Gottlieb, said, you don't appreciate how much this film means to many generations, young people, male and female. For women, it was about bonding with their mothers or older sisters. For gay women and transgender women, it was about seeing a performance of female maleness that I had no idea existed. but then it turns out we're the savior of this blah blah blah i don't did you see any of this stuff happen out of this movie i've i've like in doing research for this i've heard that that's the case but i think more overwhelmingly it's guys being like i rented this from the video source for those two seconds that i could watch that's kind of how i feel i that was my takeaway too maybe everything it was i respect so much what you said i wish that i had been part of that But yeah, I was nine. And at the end, just bam. I can't tell you when she it's I didn't even blink when Bruce Willis is a ghost compared to my feeling here. So is a zero Terry ripping it off for Rick. I was like, what the hell just I know it for. Honestly, it's even bigger than you think. And I thought about this before this pod. And I'm sorry. I'm being so pervy to Joe. But I honestly think that it might have been the first naked breasts I ever saw in my life. Because I was like eight years old. I don't think I had seen a Playboy at eight. And we didn't have the HBO in my mom's house before my parents got divorced. I can't. I wasn't like when it happened. I wasn't like, yeah, I was like, whoa. It's like I saw an alien. And so it's like that just set me off on a path. It wasn't just like a gratuitously horny moment. It was like a real turning point for me as a kid. It was so shocking that that happened. I'd never seen that before. I mean, that's just like those movies exist for all of us. And I think that like that's not an unreasonable way to think about a movie. And I think that this movie in particular was so interesting. The fact that there's like a female director in this movie. I was thinking about this, that like Lisa Gottlieb directed this movie. Amy Heckerling directed Fast Time. So like the two freeze frame movies of the 80s were directed by women, which I think is really interesting. but I love that Terry when she's in the locker room is like sneaking peeks at like all the dicks that are walking past her you get two towels I'm looking at nothing the two towel guy this is based on William Shakespeare there's a level of sophistication that is more than just boobs there's something going on here it's Twelfth Night well then there's some workplace stuff that makes sense in 85 and I'm not sure you know like basically no you can't win this contest you're a woman But in 1985, it was actually like, oh, yeah, that would happen. And now you watch and you're like, oh, first of all, the teacher would get fired. The contest, somebody would protest. I mean, that first teacher who's like, did you see her legs and her tits? You should keep her back. That should be her first expose at the sun. That guy was suggesting they fail her. Yeah, to keep her. And then even the nice teacher's like, you really shouldn't be saying that here. Say that afterward. Want to get some coffee? Careful where you say that. What a moment. One of the cool things, first of all, I think Joyce Heiser is great in this movie. It's one of those performances where you're like, I don't know why there weren't five of these for her. What was missing? There's some interesting research about her. Some research on that, but I think this is one of the only woman dresses as man movies or TV shows that is like, I actually think she's convincing. As Terry, boy Terry. They say they really want, because Karate Kid they were filming. I don't know if it was out yet. And they really wanted her to look like Ralph Macchio. So cool. She looks like Ralph Macchio. She looks like Ralph Macchio in my notes before we got to the Karate Kid line that's in this movie. And before I saw that they like used him as the model for her. I think she's genuinely good in this movie. I think she's great. I don't really understand. You don't agree? Do you not agree? I have some thoughts on some other people who could have played the role. Do you? There's a part really early on where she's arguing with the teacher, it's a rough scene. There's a part where I think she forgets her line and she stumbles and they just kept it in. It's not great. I actually think I agree that it only gets really good once she starts doing the address of the guy. We're talking about, again, this is Shakespeare. This is the character Viola. It's been played by Judi Dench and Anne Hathaway, like Eddie Redmayne and Joyce Heiser. She's doing her damn best. To put it this way, she has a lot to offer that maybe they don't or maybe they do, but I think she's doing her best she's doing her best we'll put it that way kyle saying this is viola is like the highlight of my week this is really good i'm an english major i don't get to throw it on the table much i think she's all right all right we're split on joyce hizer but we're not split on billy jacoby come on one of the great comedic geniuses of the 80s what's so weird is i was like okay this guy's been in a million things he's like a face of the 80s to me and then i went and looked up and i was like wait no he's in this and parker lewis can't lose which i also watched but it was just based off of me re-watching this movie that i thought of him as like he was in a million of these movies but he wasn't he's so good in this he's fantastic i would say maybe 10 or 12 rewatchables episodes ago probably two or three years in real time we got on a sidetrack about this bill and you were like i think he is the funniest person of the 80s and i was like crazy bill being funny i'm like funnier than eddie murphy and bill murray you're like yes and then i re-watched it i'm like holy shitty is so fucking good he's so good every word every scene the character we are introduced to this character the first time you see him on screen this kid is at breakfast having pizza a coke and a sideways playboy getting in some smut before he even goes to school like you nobody looked at playboy at breakfast he did and i'm like this guy's a legend can i tell you that okay first of all the playboy budget on this movie is incredible yeah definitely a sponsor but also I didn't know this, that Coca-Cola owned Columbia Pictures at the time when they made this movie. So that's why all the beer cans just say beer on them. But there's Coca-Cola cans everywhere. Well, you bring the Shakespeare and I'll bring the product placement. Me and my college roommate, Jacko, we used to watch this movie because it was on Comedy Central all the time. We'd always get mad at the edit. We were always like, we just couldn't believe this guy wasn't a bigger star. And my son, who loves this movie, and we watched it Tuesday night, and afterwards he's like dad why wasn't that guy in more movies he said it unprompted he wasn't asking ironically he was like genuinely confused why he wasn't in because like from the moment he comes in he's throwing 105 miles an hour even like when he doesn't have lines like there's one like her friend that's sitting on her bed and he sits next to her and then he just like tries to make a pass to her and she hits her hand but he's just like in heat almost like it's almost like watching a dog at a park trying to hug his legs. He was like 15, I think, when he made this movie. I mean... His first line during the cafeteria, he comes in, he sits down, and just goes, you are so hot. Like, right in her ear. And then he keeps trying this move where he blows in her ear. He totally read about it in penthouse forums or something crazy. He's... Every single second. And it's not like... I'll say this now. I struggled with the Dion Waiters because he's definitely not in. He gets 25 shots. He's in a lot of scenes, and he's awesome in every one of them. I have my favorite scene of his, but I love them all. The director said, she's talking about casting. Everybody was nuts about Joyce, nuts about Casey, big clean. And then I cast Billy. He walked into my office, read, and I said, forget about it. I have 14-year-old Bill Murray in my office. We're casting him. That's a quote. I really agree. He kind of is 14-year-old Bill Murray. Did you watch the 30th anniversary Q&A panel that they did? No. Was he there? Yeah, he was there. And he's just like that on the panel. Like now, like 30 years after this movie. So maybe he just couldn't shut it off. I'm saying, do you have a project for him? Oh, wow. Is he working? Is he out there? I don't know. I'm going to go through his career here. Okay. He changed his name to Billy Jane, age 17, which I think was his real name. He's now William Jane. He did a lot of TV movie stuff. Recurring role, apparently, in Silver Spoon, season four and five. I wasn't watching at that point. Parker Lewis Can't Lose was his other big one. Stopped acting in 2010. Appeared in Milf Manor, a reality show on TLSB in 2023. 23? That's just 20 minutes ago. That's tough. That was the last time. Milf Manor being the last credit on your list. It's a reality series. Yeah, it's tough. I got to ask Craig, even though, Craig, don't step on how you felt about this movie. Yeah. Do you think Billy Jacoby was 15-year-old Bill Murray? um respectfully i don't think he quite got to bill murray level i'd say he's trying 100 miles an hour is correct he is he's putting his whole energy into this role oh craig's craig hated this movie i don't like when craig starts sentences with respectfully then we're gonna have a long day he can talk about joyce and say she's all right and that's fine i know i'm trying to respect joyce because i like her work but i bet i spent a lot of time Come back. Hey, suck your own. Eat me. Hey, same to you, butt face. Mom says hi. Mom says hi. You can't. He's just ripping them off. Linda, wait. I vacuumed for God's sake, Linda. Oh, that one's good. Would it make any difference if I said I was hung like a bear? It's fantastic. He's ripping them off. It's just, dude, it's a heater. The scene where he explains how to scratch your balls is so funny and so accurate. because he's like he basically says like sometimes there's like a level one scratch and he's like get in there moving around that's what we do that is so accurate sometimes you got to get some air in there and it's like i i just love how committed he is to that scene yeah and like when you watch that scene like it's kind of meta like you want to do it it's it's you're sitting there watching like he's so exactly spot on with it i love that part not to compare him to chevy chase and fletch but I'm going to compare him to Chevy Chase and Fletch. Chevy Chase, the whole movie, is just like, I'm going for this, guys. I'm never breaking, but I'm just going to go for it every scene. And if I go too far, just kind of yank me back. And then we have young Billy Jacoby here just going for it. And never even coming close in any capacity to this ever again, which I just don't understand. He talked about being on the set. He was 15. And his only chaperone on the set was his sister, who everyone said partied harder than he did. There might be some party. it's possible. I was going to do for my flex the Sasha. I was going to do Billy Jacoby for my flex, so I'll just save it. Well, it was just like, what went wrong with this kid's career in the 80s? Isn't the answer usually partying? It's right in the vortex of I did an incredible Joyce Heiser deep dive. I can't believe how much time I spent on it. Joe probably knows some of it because Joe's a big researcher, but she dated Bruce Springsteen for almost five years. That's why there are Bruce Springsteen posters in the bedroom in the movie. He saw her at a party in L.A. in 1978 on his tour and asked Gary Busey to introduce them. She was immediately in and she traveled with him for the rest of the tour. A Busey meet-cube? A Busey set-up. She dated him for five years. He visited the set of this movie. He did? Clayton Rohnert said Bruce got a little jealous with the kissing scene. He might have milked that story. She apparently dated David Geffen. wasn't able to confirm that one but that was in there she was close with Jack Nicholson on Queer If They Dated and then dated Warren Beatty and lived with him for a year and a half I went in because I have star the Warren Beatty autobiography she's interviewed like she's in it a lot I love you did the work and read that book she was she really he was really smitten by her like and and really settled down and was like trying to make her like and she knew like what a dog he was and then Brinkstein Nicholson Beatty. Come on. It's unbelievable. Busey's name was mentioned too. Jesus. She was Jimmy Smits' girlfriend on LA Law for two years, which is a big show. She said, Kyle, glad you're sitting down. Go on. I tested for Volunteers and lost to Rita Wilson. I turned down a role in Eddie and the Cruisers, but my biggest career disappointment was The Sopranos. I tested for Dr. Melfi. It was between me and Lorraine brocco no holy shit that's in the research she's sitting there with tony talking about his mother and everything oh my god i never knew i never knew that joyce heiser as lorraine brocco i mean as dr melfi in place of lorraine brocco i really like it i did it this isn't as juicy as the sopranos incredible but i did some detective work because she talked about a show that she turned down but she wouldn't name the show and she was like it was a big one but i turned it down because they like disrespected her and her audition or something like that uh but then she's like but later martha coolidge who directed her in valley girl brought me in for a cameo csi csi i think she was offered like the marge elgenberger role wow what a career that's that's a lot of what ifs because lorraine brocco was apparently offered carmella and she said i've already played the gangster's wife when i when i was in goodfellas i don't want to be carmella i want this the shrink so then that led to Edie Falco getting it god damn that would work but if Lorraine had been Carmella and Joyce then who's Nurse Jackie? What happens to Edie Falco's career? that's true she stays on us imagine if Dr. Melfi came into a session with Tony Soprano when I just dressed as a guy so tell me about your mother Tony hey yo but you do think Joyce is really good I can tell I like her She was one of my 175 crushes in the 80s. And apparently was more of a smoke show in real life because Springsteen in 1978 and then Warren Beatty, she just must have been absolutely fetching in person. Fetching. Is my guess. What a charming word. What a combo. Who else in the world could have dated those two? She was a trained dancer growing up. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, the odds are that Beatty saw this film. I don't know about the movie, but who is that? The way that they start this movie. Think about the opening shot of the movie. She's an incredible, incredible figure. I love that Kyle's premise here requires that Warren Beatty went to the theater to see just one of the guys. By herself. He made $11 million total, and one of those was Warren Beatty. She was also the star of Dan Hartman's video for I Can Dream About You, which is a pretty big game. Oh, is that the I Can Dream? Yeah. That song goes. I like that. we're not done with setting up the movie because we didn't talk about the Billy Zabka bully trilogy yet. Talk about it. Come on, Bill. Karate Kid, this right into back to school, which really lost his bully energy and back to school. Yeah. Yeah. Like Keith Gordon beats him up and back to school. And then he's like, yeah, he flips the big dive. Like, but he did have the bigger mullet. This one. Yeah. He's, he's lifting up tables. He is. Torturing nerds left and right. And I think if you were, if you were Mr. Zabka's representation back then Karate Kid is a massive hit you're a big part of it you're zagging? well you take one role it's Greg Tolan it's like the next year that's the next movie he does is this movie after Karate Kid and then when the role comes in for Back to School don't you want to say no no no no yeah Billy let me be the Robert Downey part yeah I'll be anything or like in this movie his first movie after Karate Kid he's fighting someone on the beach just like he does in Karate Kid It's like I'm ready for Kevin to do the crane kick Like it's ridiculous And he should drop the radio in Elizabeth Shue It's so similar and I wish I could reach in there And be like Billy pick something else dude He was talking about how Playing a bully he's like You're just waiting for my characters To go inside a punch bowl That's all you want is for my character To meet the punch bowl at some point In all of his movies Why did High School seem so perfect As a movie and TV location in the mid 80s What was it about whatever was going on it was so new because we didn't do they didn't do it in the 70s and so then it was like guess what teens have sex teens like do drugs and it's not like in the forbidden brook shield kind of way it's just like normalized right you come home after school you have a beer a generic beer i guess with your pal and so then i think it was just so new and exciting and then by the time you get to the 90s can't hardly wait happens it's great but like we're it's a little bit more expected but the 80s it just felt like with porkies and revenge of the nerds like we're really pushing the envelope just the music was so perfect for high school kids now they don't play a lot of music in this movie but all of the posters are represented there's all the you mentioned the bruce springsteen and there's a youtube poster in buddy's room like it was great great high school music shit then and john hughes ran with him he had one youtube poster and 700 pulled out there's the edge just staring next to Brandy's on the beast. It's incredible. I didn't know one person who ever would have done that in the 80s with their room. Outlander. That was what was so funny about it though. Even if the parents are mysteriously out of town for two weeks? No, that would be insane behavior. He used to need his wallpaper. No one did that. You don't put those posters up on the wall. You put like a Spud Web poster or something. Be respectful. Don't say those posters. She reads Vonnegut. That's true. You know. Hates chemical waste against that. Hates toxic waste. He is such a funny character. in 2015 Entertainment Weekly did their 50 best high school movies ever and this was ranked 48 which I was personally offended by. Way too low, where would you put it? Much higher. Is it in the top 10? For me? For me personally it would be in the top 12 or 30 but there's been a lot of good ones in the last 20 years so it's tough. This could be a good segment for me. It's so Does Superbad necessarily count as a high school movie? Because we're not really in high school. Yeah, they're graduating. It's a graduation party. How many actual high school scenes are in Superbad? It's a ton. There's like the cooking class in school. Oh, yeah, you're right. It's like kind of a one crazy night movie, but it's like we're leaving high school. Yeah, that's fair. If Can't Hardly Wait is a high school movie, then Superbad, definitely. What else from your generation? For high school movies? Easy A. Easy A is a good one. She's the Man, which is the remake of this movie, to a degree. Craig was like, is this the OG? She's the Man? I was immediately offended. That's correct. I've not seen She's the Man. I'll never see She's the Man. Do respect. You've never seen it? No. I have seen it. It's a much, well, as an English major, it's a much more direct both night adaptation. Yeah, that's correct. Oh, sorry, Julia Stiles. They're using, like, character names. The long triangle is more accurate. Yeah. Any time I would ever be spending free time watching She's the Man, I could be watching just one of the guys. So that's what I would do on Tubi. It's true. I mean, say what you will about Joyce, but she's, you know. You know what's funny about, she's the man's Amanda Bynes, right? Amanda Bynes looks demented in drag as a teenage boy. Like, absolutely demented. Not as realistic as Joyce. Also Mean Girls. Mean Girls is legit. When I moved out here, and I was working for Kimmel, and Kimmel had a 9 or 10-year-old daughter and a 7-year-old son, and they were watching all those shows. And I didn't have kids yet. And he was talking about Amanda Bynes. and he's like this she's so freaking talented like her show's amazing yeah like she's like watch out for her it's gonna be but it kind of peaked where she's then she had a bunch of personal problems but she's the man was like the one movie she made right no there's the one where like her dad like colin firth is her dad oh like a sad one well no no no like isn't she the president's daughter oh yeah my day with the president's daughter and then um the amanda show was big She had her own like variety show. And all that. All that stuff's her. All that, yeah. She really had a moment. What a girl wants? I thought Lindsay Lohan was, this is one of my hottest takes probably in the last 20 years. I genuinely think she should have like won Oscars. I thought she was like a great actress. Or confessions of a drama. I'm saying when she got older. When she got older. Yeah, yeah. I thought she had like all the talent to actually go on and do some stuff. I got to talk to Dennis Quaid once and I asked him about Lindsay Lohan and The Parent Trap. and he like got really serious and he's like i think the most talented person i've ever worked with yeah like lindsey lohan you work with everybody's like incredible yeah it's like that talented and then even when she hosted snl the first time and she like crushed it she could do imitations but i think she just went off the rails she's in a sketch where she's in a harry potter sketch where she comes back in her mind he's blossomed over the summer it is so funny the story is like all these people came into hollywood too young without no question i have proper supervision. I have some good Billy Jacoby stuff for later. This movie is directed by Lisa Gottlieb, co-written by Dennis Feldman and Jeff Franklin. Two artists. Jeff Franklin of Full House fame. Jeff Franklin probably has more money than any of us. You're right. Budget unknown. They said $5 million. Lisa Gottlieb has said $5 million in interviews. This movie looks like they spent $600 grand. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just so low-key. Most of it was on the beach scene. It made $11.5 million. and then was on HBO for HBO Comedy Central rental everything you know what was a huge part of this for me a huge part fantastic poster fantastic I used to go to the video stores Benny's Video in LaGrange Illinois and you'd scan the shelves and you'd get to one where there's Terry in the locker room with a football helmet over each dress looking very pleased about it and it was so sexy and so perfect and I was like It was everything I want in the world is right there. And I would rent that movie all the time. Who out of anyone in these 80s, 90s movies, if you met in real life, would you be embarrassed to meet? What do you mean embarrassed? Like flustered? Yeah, flustered. Oh, okay. Because Joyce is up there for me. I'd be flustered to meet Joyce. Andrew McCarthy. Andrew McCarthy? Yeah. I mean, I still think it's Judd Nelson. I think he's the coolest character in any 80s high school movie. But you'd be meeting Judd Nelson now. Yeah I wouldn't be flustered I don't think I'd be excited to meet him I think if I was meeting John Bender with the fingerless gloves And all that I think I would be We were a big mannequin household So Andrew McCarthy In 2014 Remember and I were in Boston And we went to a conference That Thelma from Good Times was from We both loved it I loved her as a kid And we got a picture with her and we were both like we were on a high for like five hours after We were so excited She looked great. She still looked great. We were really great. This picture. Yeah, it was awesome. You met Thelma from Good Times. Wow. And I was like, I loved you. I just absolutely, as a little kid, just full-fledged, absolute love. Yeah. And I think she's been hearing it her whole life, but it was great. I met Nell Carter from Give Me a Break. Freaked me out. It was a lot. No, I didn't. I wish I would have though I love that. Craig who's your number one if you met somebody who would you be the most flustered by? Like right now or in their prime? No right now you'd have to meet them now. We're talking females or males? He could be anybody Wow there's like the Leo are you asking him you need to give him parameters Leo DiCaprio sure I'd be intimidated if I was just chatting with Leo DiCaprio. That's not a fun answer Well you want me to say like Margot Robbie? I think he means from like Oh Margot Robbie. Sure. No no no Let's pick like comedies that you watched when you were a teenage boy. You had to have been a kid when you liked it When I was a kid, Blake Lively in the movie Accepted was a big deal for me. You ever seen that movie? Great. There you go. Yes. That's a great answer. Big one for like 14-year-old Craig. Team Blake in the Baldoni-Blake feud right there. Oh, okay. Oh. Well, I don't know about that. Yeah. You're on record now. You're on record now. We know. Big body to the stand. You're going to be subpoena. Team Lively Reynolds. That's a good movie Accepted. Have you seen Accepted? Not technically high school, technically college, but it's good. I think I have. It's not good. I've watched it in every movie. Just as long, right? It's not good. They make up their own college. Yeah, Scott Harmon Institute of Technology, the shitheads. We're going to take a break. Okay. And when we come back, we're going to go through the categories, including a couple new ones that either of you have been involved with. I can't wait. All right. First category is watch party. Yep. I love this. Bunch of best setting for a watch or a rewatch. You saw the possibilities. What's your answer? You have one that's like peanut gallery ladies night. Yeah. That's what I think. Kyle? It's got to be in a basement. I think it's like four buddies yeah I think it's dudes in a basement like grown up sleepover you have some root beer and some video games and you watch just one of the guys I had peanut gallery pre-game for this yeah I was really impressed that you made this a family movie in your household I think that's kind of cool I genuinely think that's great when you told us that you were watching it with your son and your wife I was like what do they think and you're like oh we've been watching this for years he loves it my kids really genuinely love these 80s movies but I don't know if it's because I was just banging them over the head with them from day one. But we watched all of this. You got to bring them up right. You got to bring them up right, Bill. Anytime I do the pod, my wife always asks, what's the movie? She had not even heard of this movie. She's a little younger than me. But before I came over here, Bill, I had lunch with some old college friends. Dudes just like me. And they were Watchables guys. And they're like, oh, fuck, what movie were you doing? I was like, do you guys remember just one of the guys? Fuck yeah! Oh, yeah! Because the scene at the end is incredible. Like, they knew the movie and they liked it. They didn't say the one based on Shakespeare. They didn't say the one based on 12th day. Those are all finance guys. That means that's to me. It's so cool that she got that job at the newspaper. It's really cool. Journalism. She grew a lot as a person. It's a lot, right. You know? Most rewatchable scene. I will give you Buddy's first scene, which includes lines like, I've had lots of sex. It's just now I'd like to try with a partner. Awesome. I'm 15 years old. In two years, I've reached the peak of my sexual powers. and horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime which i think is a high school yearbook wrote quote is it too late was it january right now good life yeah you can submit the yearbook stuff now right horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime buddy what was her last name griffith buddy griffith yeah just throw that in in the yearbook nobody say it wait say it one more time horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime that was my philosophy on the real world wisdom in there. My parents were thrilled. Would you get that as a tattoo, though? It's too many words. Did embarrassment come back and kick Corny's ass eventually? With your real world set? Don't underestimate embarrassment. It's strong. In the late rounds, it starts wearing you down. It does. Buddy teaches Tara to act like a guy. I think that's, I mean. Fantastic. Move him around. All balls itch, it's a fact. Another possible yearbook quote. That's the line of the movie. Craig, I can't believe you didn't love this movie. You don't know that. Buddy. It's a small one, but Buddy's singing Slow Hand. Just like, hey, Jacoby, we need another minute. We're a minute short. Can we just cook? Buddy does algebra and Drunk Terry comes home. Buddy stops by Terry's school. thanks for the message bud the kavina kavina yeah your touch is the reason i went through puberty this also has rick standing up to greg uh-huh full choice hell yeah non-violent too i think there's a reason we haven't talked about rick very much so far in our world i just showed her some of her cards i feel like he's strong enough to lift tables and spill food greg toland yeah were you a messy baby awesome I like that asshole called me an asshole too some of the writing of this is really good yep Terry asks her friend to the prom and then Sherilyn Fenn shows up we didn't talk about her either well that is actually I'm very surprised we haven't talked about Sherilyn Fenn that scene Jacoby somebody comes into their house and he puts the horns on Denise what's your rush incredible we're young we're wild um the prom fight rick briggs had a jab game here how do you feel about that yeah what is that like a boxing gym training like do you think it comes from his dance moves you know he likes to dance all by himself does that put him in condition to beat up the bully without any uh preamble to his ability to punch it's incredible though he like he turns into like burnell sweet pea whittaker and he's just loading the compu box and he's just loading it right on Zabka's nose and then he finishes him. It's a straight jab and it's really impressive. Let's say that Terry and Buddy wore him down a little bit and then Rick was able to finish the job. Oh, you think that's what it was? I don't know. I was trying to explain it. If they were doing fan service now, they would have Zabka sweep the leg. We'd be like, fuck yeah, Zabka! Kovacanum dies! Here's my question. They filmed this movie in Arizona. We're having a beach prom. That was in my unanswerables. What beach? The unanswerable for me is what state are we in? The license plate is Arizona. They filmed it in Phoenix and Scottsdale. This is what they did in the 80s. You never knew where you were unless you're in California. I think that's what they did. They wanted it to be that Southern California thing, but they just shot it in Arizona for cheaper because they don't talk about being in Arizona. You just look it up and they shot it in Phoenix. It's true. Camp On Me Love is clearly Arizona. There's cactuses. They kind of own being an Arizona for that. I didn't bump it until the end when he drives up in the rabbit or whatever and it's like an Arizona license plate. I was like, what the hell? We're in Arizona this whole time with a beach? You kind of never knew when you watch these movies in the 80s and 90s where anything was. That's not true because the John Hughes movies have a clear sense of place. But that's it. Then there's a lot of California stuff. But like E.T. when I was a kid and I'm on the East Coast, I don't know where that is. I just know we might be in California. I don't know. I have no context of geography where we are. This should have been like a California movie, though. And I think if they had the budget, it would have been. Like Fast Times. I was going to do this later, but Greg kind of have a choke job in the fight. Even if you could say that the Griffith kids wore him down a little bit. He's been training for this his whole life. Somebody's directly challenged him. He's already gotten a good shot at him. He has a 23 lead. he's got the gloves on hear my notes his lift routine is actually pretty weak right he's lifting tables and occasional benches pressing literal benches not actual weights so this is like the Mike Tyson in the Buster Douglas fight where it's like the bully just got punched once and didn't have a plan I don't think he actually so he just never had a fight I think probably that's the old thing hey listen Biff Tannen goes down with one punch from Crispin Glover you know sometimes they get those bullies go down easy uh i i do have to shout out though like one of my top five favorite things about this movie is that greg tolan has bullying gloves that he puts on exclusively to bully yeah and it's like when it's bullying time like hold on it's like let me get my gloves on yeah he's like they're driving gloves fingerless bullying gloves and it's such a fun creative flourish that i've never seen before or since it's so easy i love how wearily all the nerds or whatever like just lift up their lunch here we go they're like it's time. It's about that time. When they fight in movies, they don't fight like they do on my Instagram algorithm when I get served fights outside by drunk people. That's usually like either they're swinging wildly or one of them attacks the other. Nobody's like doing the... No. Bill, can you tell me a bit more about the drunk fights that you watch on your Instagram? Once you watch two of them, they're just going to keep serving them to you. You can watch half of one in the parking lot for the rest of your life. World star! Is it like people who have had a night out and tied one on? It could either be like there is some sort of mano a mano, drunk people. But the best thing about those clips is you can start it and immediately be like, guy on the left. You come in like you're like Max Kellerman. Guy on the left, he looks like he's going to win. And then sometimes there's an upset. You're like, whoa, guy on the right. Sometimes guy on the left gets folded. And what is it if I click on If I click for .5 seconds Even on like on Twitter You go to the 4U And I was like what is it about me you think I want to see Some guy get his face beaten in in an alley Show me a football video It's always there That's my algorithm too It's football videos People fighting in a parking lot Craig, it's a football guy Do you get to serve drunk fights? I honestly do Do you immediately do Blink tests of guy on the left, guy on the right sometimes I have to do like the quick scroll away just to tell the algorithm like I don't need more of these. You have to send a message to the algorithm. You have to tell who's boss. Exactly. If you make eye contact with the algorithm, it's like I can't. I wish I could turn down the algorithm straight. So do I. Tap market of sports betting on drunk fights. Blink test bump fights. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're, well, the worst algorithm thing that happened to me was I watched this tsunami video once and then it just started serving me tsunami stuff. And I was like, how do I tap out this? Tap out. Done. I was like researching how to clean my cache I was like I never want to see this again They don't ask you are you enjoying the tsunami videos No no no God forbid you not only click on it If you share it with someone That's a tattoo You're sharing this guy getting his head kicked in In a circle K I got you for life You can't get rid of it Next rewatchable scene The famous scene Which includes Him just butchering Cindy Lauper's pronunciation and calling it Lauper. Cindy Lauper? Yeah, right, and I'm Cindy Lauper. How did they not do a second take? I don't know. You know what? Great call. Why did they not stop? On the panel, they asked him about that, and he's like, yeah, people still yell that at me. I'm so embarrassed by it. Oh my god. And I think it was Billy Jacoby was like, had you heard of the recording artist Cindy Lauper before we made this film? That's the director's fault. I agree. But there's 30 people on set. What is it? The Marion Cabretti cutting pizza with scissors award. Why didn't someone stop this? Cindy Lauper. Cindy Lauper was a house. It'd be like saying Madonna instead of Madonna. It's Lauper. Lauper. And I'm Madonna. And he's supposed to be this thoughtful character who loves music and has all these records. Cindy Lauper. Rick. Terrible. The big reveal. Yeah. Where do you get off having tits? Do you think that was written or ad-libbed by Clayton Rohnert? I think they said there wasn't much ad-libbing on this movie. In the script. Yeah. Usatory sentence. too. He was pissed. Big kiss. And then it's alright. He has tits. And walks away. And then Terry goes home and walks in on Buddy and starts telling him about the night. Buddy's sitting to the covers. That's really interesting. Really. Just, I mean this was on all the time and it was always a suck in every time. I never really understood why Rick was so upset. Because he thought they, I'm not one to defend Rick, but like he thought that they were friends they were pals it was like a it was a a reaction he had a reaction you're allowed to have a reaction my unanswerable about that is i like the defense of brick though is yeah if if you were hanging out with a dude dude to dude for a couple weeks killing bruise you're chasing girls he's becoming your best friend in this new school yeah hanging out in bathrooms together urinal talk and then you find out that it's a woman and it's kissing you could you recover like Rick does to then go and ostensibly date her? Or is it like, I spent two weeks with you as a platonic male friend. I can't go then date you. This is where we let down the Shakespeare adaptation though, right? Because in Twelfth Night, Ursina was hot for her when she's in drag. There should have been some confused attraction to her in her boy get up. The most politically incorrect sports movie ever, right behind Joanna's Fast Break. Yeah. Swish is pretending to be a guy on the Cadwallader State basketball team. And DC Dacey is falling for Swish thinking it's a guy and then leaves the team because he's convinced he's becoming gay. Right. Then he finds out Swish is a woman. They don't even go near that. And just one of the guys and have like Rick's like attracted to her. What does Kenny Tatum do? And she's the man. He's attracted to her. Yeah. There is like a weird energy between them that he doesn't quite understand. It's cool, though. Rick. Like when Rick finds out before the reveal he's like it's cool you're gay like yeah there's a little no homo from him where he's like but then he's like he's like he's like oh you're yeah you're gay i get it big right now because of the reveal in netflix and i've seen people assailing it for saying that's not realistic back in the 80s and i'm like watch what rick did like he was really cool about that and i like that i like that moment i will say rick when he comes in the end and he's like let me do the one do the asking out okay okay fine well i gotta drive i'm like it's her car you lost us you totally lost us rick as long as i'm driving okay rick also rick you dressed like you were going bowling you had there were no girls to be seen you went out with the prom queen and terry right who's a smoke show like settle down i know the time we drive uh the ending which includes that uh also buddy ends up on a motorcycle with a 40 year old woman yeah and that's how the movie ends yeah my son when we watched it on Tuesday, it's like, Dad, why did they do that? He just didn't understand. I was like, I don't know. It's the 80s. I thought it'd be funny. I went back and watched that twice thinking, did we miss something? Is this character supposed to be somebody? She's literally a 40-year-old woman. This is a fantasy of his that we didn't hear about. Don't you feel like her friend Denise hooked up with a 40-year-old prom band singer? Oh, yeah. And then also Rick's deflowering story is his mom's friend fucked him when his dad died. I forgot about that. My mom's friend made me feel good. what holy shit should i go you were a child wait i want to i want to get into that because that's my flex it's a book about medals award for the belatedly best quota exchange okay they're talking about if they've ever lost their virginity here he goes have you ever had sex he's like yeah one time and her weird new york accent she's like tell me about it and he's like just after my dad died this friend of my mom's i think she wanted me to cheer me up and she did and then terry goes is that your room over there and they just never talk about that again awesome that's like a whole movie that quote. Holy shit. What happened there? It explains a lot about Rick. This movie's the best. They're real fast to lose with all that. You're talking yourself into it. You love this movie. Atta boy. And again, I don't know why Buddy gets on the back of a motorcycle with a soccer mom at the end of the movie with no helmet, no words exchanged, nothing. That's a motorcycle babe who has been around is going to show him something. She's like, yeah. That's what, back in the day, just the dream woman would appear out of nowhere for no reason. Dream woman. I didn't blink twice. It's a very 80s ending to a movie. Yeah. Was he the one who went on to do Milf Manor? That's it Origin story from Milf Manor Origin story We know what most rewatchable was for Kyle and I What do you have? I think it's him teaching her how to be a dude The tube socks down the jeans That whole sequence What's the most 1985 thing about this movie? I have a good one for this It's the inseam On Kevin's shorts When her college boyfriend Kevin comes over at the beginning of the movie. What a hole. He's like rocking Magnum P.I. Short shorts. It's wild. See, I gotta look for that. I still gotta miss that. You just throw a dart at this movie and find anything. I have a really little one. One of the times that Billy's reading the magazine, the back of the magazine... Just saying reading a magazine. Oh, the Carlton cigarette. Less tar. They're bragging that they have less tar than the other brands. Like, we have tar in our cigarettes for sure, but less than those guys. That was a huge deal back in the day. That's a good one. I had Terry's word processor. Sure. I had the whole concept of a high school student aspiring to be a newspaper writer. Sure. Journalism is aspirational. Buddy's sleeveless jeans jacket. I don't think you could walk outside in that now. For the back half of the movie, he's just in a parade of sleeveless button down things. Yeah. This was a look. It's like he looks like he's in Double Dragon. I don't know what his – it's either flannel sleeveless, denim sleeveless, lumberjack type. I don't know what that was. It's like a thing that he found at the end of the movie. He's like, this is my look. This is going to be my look. It's very Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. You know the brother in that movie who does the dishes are done? And then Buddy in this movie is just sort of like, the dishes are done. The great C. Tom Howell stole the look for Secret of Mirrors. Same kind of thing. It was like this sleeveless jacket with the shirt underneath. Hasn't been seen since. Even late 80s, nobody was doing this. C. Tom Howell. C-Tom might have to come up later He's 100% coming up later I think I know where you're going I have a couple more High school kids dressing up like Trekkies We don't do that anymore Calling a beer a brewski Twice I don't remember what year that ended in But it was right around here I also just don't know that teenagers did it ever Right? The prom band is very This is like a great era for prom bands Because we have weird science We back to school Whatever the band that Rodney Dangerfield hires Oingo Boingo I'm all over It's a band in here They all had like They were all too old to be playing at the high school They all had the high hair They all had the weird guitars That had like little daggers on them and stuff And they're playing originals too I like No Duran Duran This is one of our tunes The two guys on stage or two of the guys on stage were like long-time drummers for Rod Stewart. That's a fun fact I learned about this. Thank God you're here. Really good stuff, right? I like that. Well, my winner for what's most 1985 thing about this movie is every single Deborah Foreman outfit. She's the one, the prom queen who Rick falls for. Yes. There's one outfit she has that I don't even, there might have been like a four-week window where people were wearing, that yellow outfit she has where she's dressed basically like Madonna. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and then at that outfit you couldn't wear that ever I don't even know if you could wear that ironically at an 80s party do you mean Madonna? what stage is the best? the opening of this movie is exactly like any porn you would have watched from the 80s if you actually watch it she wakes up and it's like just one of the guys and with terrible music what rating is this? where are we? Just in case. You think there's going to be a doorbell and the guy's like, I'm here to fix the cable. And he comes on. Oh, wow. Here we go. Boys don't go. What do you got? I have a bunch. I have a bunch, too. Joe and I were talking about this before the show. Having an older sibling whose friends come over is just one of the all-time adolescent things, whether it's your older sister's friends or you go to a friend's house and he has an older sister and you're 14 and there's three 16-year-old girls watching TV. like it's Sodom and Gomorrah like you can't imagine how sexy and how hot that is when you're a teenager and this is what Billy goes through for the whole movie Billy Jacoby I love that yeah you're in love with and I'm an only child but I had the friends who had the older ones you're just in love with every friend they have yeah doesn't matter we used to go to my friend's Mark house is Mark's older sister Lisa was like three years older and we found out that she loved her car noir she just loved how it smelled so before we go to Mark's house we put on 50s. Hey, Lisa, what's up? Are you wearing your car? It was amazing. Shout out Lisa. Maybe people are better now than we were back then. What else do you have? As someone from the Midwest, I fucking love outdoor high schools. Outdoor lockers, outdoor everything. That was unthinkable for where I went to school. That's a great point. They're just hanging at the lockers. There's sunshine behind them. There's cactus. Same thing in Can't Buy Me Love, outdoor, and then also the outdoor prom. My prom was at the O'Hare Airport Hilton, just absolute garbage. And they're on the beach with these lanterns and this food and this band. The outdoorness of it is really cool. I just don't think people had beach proms outside of movies. Definitely some black-dote issues. I grew up in California, like Bay Area, California. You grew up in California, Craig. We didn't have beach proms. Well, he's throwing Terry into the ocean and no one comes to stop him. There's no faculties or anything. He's got like a Stone Cold Stunner is coming. And it's like, just go ahead. As you said, there's no adults in this movie. Yeah, they don't exist. Crazy teachers, and they're the horniest people in the movie. Well, there's the bullying PE guy who also is like, regular surprise jock inspection. What do you have for what's age the best? So this is, would you call this a sex comedy? Oh, yeah. Almost every scene is about someone wanting to get laid. It's horny. It's very horny. It's a horny comedy, but I don't feel like it's in the Porky's thing. Well, that's the thing. There's a bunch of sex comedies from the 80s that I think have aged really poorly. Like Reg the Nerds, you're like, ugh, blah, blah, blah. I don't really want to watch this anymore. I think with Fast Times, Valley Girl, directed by Martha Gould, these women-directed sex comedies of the 80s, I think it's a really interesting... I don't know. Like a little more soulful. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. like there's nothing in this movie that makes me cringe in the way that some of those other 80s sex comedies and john hughes i think was able to pull that off with all his stuff even like word science yeah yeah we talked about when we did that pod that could have gone sideways kelly lebrack has nothing but great things to say about john hughes about on that set and everything like to your point the fast time scene where sphebe kate's and jenna jason lee and they're giving instructions on how to give a blowjob yeah the fact that you know there was a woman directing that and it's like i don't know it's it's safe or something like it feels more yeah likable uh more what's age the best for me just parents being gone for the entire movie this was half of the plots in the 80s yeah they when did they give up on this craig because parents wouldn't leave their kids alone like this now we have too much information yeah i would never be like hey ben we'll see in two weeks guard the house like i there's no way but like and we have cameras now and you facetime them and you call them yeah there's none like 360 why is he at bevmo i don't know even like when i was middle school high school you could still kind of get away with that there was no like facetime it was kind of like my parents are gone for the weekend they can call me on my cell phone but that's about it my parents are gone for the weekend is one thing my parents the parents are gone for two weeks yeah two weeks during the school year i did have a couple friends where the parents did disappear for that long really yeah well i think there's also an interesting like but it was like that's where we just went there's like hey scott's parents are gone they It kind of breaks the high school movie rule that Buddy and Terry didn't throw a massive rager. Yeah, it's true. At Hager. Yeah, they should have. Well, she was busy pursuing her journalism interest. I know, that's true. With a college boyfriend. Yeah, Kevin was like pool party every day when your parents are gone. That's true. There's an interesting class thing going on in this movie, right? Terry, she's super rich, and she goes to high school with other super rich kids. and then like rick it like she goes to this high school and the other yeah the other high school yeah she's like she's like i got plastic let's just go get you a new wardrobe rick like don't worry about it and it's just like she's just very another reason why rick probably should have forgiven her a little bit faster yeah well the girl's buying you clothes she's like you're a haircut you've never had a girlfriend he's like i don't know your hair might put you on a list we need to fix it rick like what he saw he's like have you she's like have you heard of a pop collar would you like to pop all of your collars for the rest of your life more what's age the best the douchey rich college boyfriend with a convertible who seems like he's 15 years older than our girl in high school is an 80s staple they have this in secret admirer as well i don't know why this was a recurring character they all kind of had the same look can't buy me love classic bobby bobby coming back with the that makes you a prostitute like yeah always a dick they always have blow-drying hair and they're always 33 years old they always act like going to college gave them some sort of higher state of being but imagine what a fucking loser you are if you're in college and like an athlete or in a frat and your your girlfriend's in high school like this why don't you have a college girl or someone yeah it's like status for her right she thinks well this is like this is like okay is this movie about a woman opening her shirt and showing you her tits yes is this movie also about like a privileged like rich girl who has a shitty boyfriend and doesn't realize it who like goes to another school go befriends the nerd like meets a cooler guy becomes a better writer because actually her article did suck yeah and like learn something about herself yes where's she get off getting having tits though joe you know it's a great question learns how to throw a jab when you're fighting on the beach just works a jab works yeah it's a long game a couple more calling your dick spike great just great for an 80s calling your dick anything anything spike even better. I'm laughing every time. I'd rather wallow in my virginity. It's just a great line. Bullies who use insults like tulip and chum stains. What is tulip? Where did he even come up with that? We're not dropping F slurs this entire movie. That's another reason why this movie is better rewatchable. No, not just the F bomb, the F slur. Oh, I see. The soundtrack, I just want to shout out. The girl's got purpose. The girl's got purpose. that guy that guy's like you need a song he's like yeah we have 15 minutes to make the song just go and he's like i got it no problem right back what a jam and the other one there you're like you have two minutes what's the title of the movie just one of the guys great got it i got it it's a great era all right last thing i have is how much research there is on the topless scene which i found hysterical i couldn't believe like how much information there was what do you got highs are not sold on doing a topless scene right no nudity in her contract Gottlieb persuaded her to reconsider and she said quote honestly I think you've got to show him she pulled her aside I think this is not something you couldn't do the five part Martin Scorsese documentary about Lisa Gottlieb I'm guessing but this would have been a key part in it she talked about this for so at the Q&A the 30th anniversary Q&A that exists on YouTube that was at Sinefamily she talks about this for so long about persuading like So one of her best friends was Rosanna Arquette. Joyce just sounds like she was. Rosanna Arquette, really? She was like an eight girl. Yeah, really felt like she was in the middle of everything. Rosanna said, I would say you shouldn't do it because no one will ever look into your eyes again as long as you live. On the other hand, people will look at you and see those breasts forever, even when you're an old lady. And Lisa Gottlieb said she heard that story and said, wow, I'll strip myself after hearing that reason. Okay. But that was Rosé and Arquette. Just think long game. 40 years from now, you'll be old. You'll be glad you did it. Interesting. So Joyce Heiser was talking about how this is before Freeze Frame. This was before when we made this. I did not know that this would be the most paused moment in 80s cinema or whatever. She didn't know porn. She was like, if I knew Pornhub, all this shit was coming, probably not saying this to them. Right, and it's become this whole thing. But I saw an interview that she gave just a couple years ago where she was like, yeah, And I've got really like, you know, shy about doing nudity and I didn't want to do it. And she's like, now I wish I had, because, you know, like I wish I had done it honestly more often. What was I afraid of? So I thought that was interesting. Roseanne Arquette she in a movie with Van Damme called Nowhere to Run one of his worst movies Topless talented Looks great Roseanne Arquette colon topless talented In that order? No. Probably not because she did it. They did not have an intimacy coordinator in that movie either, unfortunately. But I remember she was in the theater. And then Clayton Rohnor weighed in. They were considered a work of art, not anything sexual. They were so beautiful. She was gorgeous. Oh, wow. Good for you. Just shooting from the hip. All right. I mean, Elephant in the Room, she has fantastic breasts. We have a couple categories coming up. Well, don't cover that, but the Steven Skull Shitting on Himself Award for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. The godfather of soul, James Brown, spent three days on set, allegedly, to help Clayton Rohnert perfect his dance moves. And this was a thing that happened. And it's inexplicable. I researched it multiple places. They keep saying it everywhere, so it has to be true. His room is covered in James Brown stuff. He choreographed the prom dance moves that both Terry and Rick do. Clayton Rohnert claims he was there for five days. No, he wasn't. So he went from the set of just one of the guys to doing Living in America with Apollo Creed. That's true. He was working a lot. Hardest working man. Gosh, that's right. James Brown showed up to do beach prom choreography for just one of the guys. I just don't know if I believe it, but it's adamant that this happened. I believe it. The way that they all keep repeating it in interviews, like, I just don't think it's a joke. It's also, like, it's in the conversation for, like, the whitest movie ever made. And the male lead loves James Brown of all things. Right. It's like their way of working a black person. Come on. Clayton Runner said, how many times do you get to sit and shoot the shit with James Brown for eight hours a day? Never. I'm guessing it wasn't eight hours a day. I really don't think it was. I think it probably went from 10 minutes to an hour over the years past. All right. New category. Who got it? The Billy Jacoby Award for most believable and yet unequivocally delightful anecdote from the actual film shoot. This is a new category, Craig. Clayton Rohnert talking about Billy Jacoby. Well, Billy Jacoby was under 18. I think it was more like 15. I don't think he could drive. And he got in all kinds of trouble because his chaperone was his older sister and she didn't give a crap. and oh my god he was after every girl on the set and i wouldn't be surprised if he got successful with a couple of them he was a ladies man that kid i swear to god awesome yeah so then the interviewer asked clade runner did he hook up with sherylund fenn runner answers i don't know i think she was dating chris penn at the time what's this movie is like a four-hour documentary so joyce heiser is the most connected woman in hollywood apparently sherylund fenn is under 18 dating Chris Penn. Clayton Rohnert is hanging out with James Brown. What the fuck was happening in this movie? The boss is on the set. The boss is on the set. Plus, according to my research, Sherilyn Fenn at this time was with Johnny Depp. That's on her wiki page. I think he was somewhere floating around, too. This is a movie set that had Bruce Springsteen and James Brown visiting. And they went to Scottsdale, Arizona. They flew James Brown out to Arizona to do prom choreography. Wait, one more anecdote from this interview. Unbelievable. I'm stunned. They asked him how William Zabka was to work with in the 80s, and Clayton said, he was great. You know, he was a born-again Christian. All the girls wanted to sleep with him, and all he wanted to do was sing them songs and hang out. Hmm. Interesting. I have to admit, there's part of it. That's not how I thought Billy, like, passed the 80s. You thought he was Party Boy? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. There's still part of my brain that's still sitting here thinking about Joyce Heiser as Dr. Melfi. I haven't recovered from that moment You may never come back How about 15 year old Billy Jacoby Bangin chicks on the set Amazing Method guy, Billy Jacoby This is the podcast of the year What if they had put Jacoby instead of David Faustino in Married with Children Better show Like a great show Him and Christina Applegate working together It sounds like we should have put him in Basic Instinct And had him just share Instead of Wayne night sitting there watching him. He's just Billy sweating. That's great. The Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness where Best Needle dropped. Trouble by Lindsay Buckingham's in this and dropped nicely. The prom song is called Hard Way. And it's like... Oh yeah, that's cool. It's not bad. It might have been their own song. I looked for it on Spotify. It was like Shitty Loverboy. Yeah, yeah. Totally. Totally. Baker Hooner Burger where Best Use of Food and Drink. Obviously, the spaghetti spill. Like, where has spaghetti spill gone? I feel like it was a staple of cinema for so long, and now we are no longer. Well, kids wouldn't eat spaghetti at lunchtime, right? I don't think people just eat big plates of spaghetti like they did in the 80s and 90s. You see an 80s movie, you know it's going on somebody. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nobody's ever had a bite of spaghetti in the 80s movie. Or are you just talking in Fatal Attraction, he gives it to his dog? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That's the most upset Mal's ever been about anything that's ever been in a movie or TV show. Michael Douglas gives spaghetti and meatballs. He comes home from two days after he sleeps with Glenn Close and just gives his dog spaghetti and meatballs. Is that that bad? The meatballs doesn't seem like it's really that bad. The dog's shitting and farting and puking everywhere. No, it's a complete violation. It's not like, you know. Craig, don't have a dog. You're not allowed. A meatball and some pasta is not that it's possible. The puking and the shitting they're going to be doing all over the place. What if you just give, I don't own a dog, what if you just gave the meatballs? That's better. Like if she poured the dog a beer, I'd be like, alright. Bradley Cooper gives his dog a steak before he hangs himself in a star is born. That's fine. I think that's better. Yeah, because you don't have to clear up the diarrhea after you're hanging in the garage. That's Lady Gaga's job. The Billy Bats Jack Waltz Award for most biting and scalable insult. New category for you. I fucking love it. I have an answer. What is it? It's when the Star Trek guys are in the cafeteria and they go, I seem to be detecting some sort of carbon-based douchebag. I love every time he says that about Greg Tolman. That's mine. Carbon-based douchebag. I like those guys. Pretty good. We'll take one more break, and then Kyle's got to flex. All right, Kyle, what's your flex? All right, so I was going to go Sasa Jenkins' Bigger Star for Billy Jacoby, but we've covered so much of it. So that means I have to pivot, and usually when I pivot, I do a porn title, but I haven't prepared one. Off the dome, buddy. You're an English major. I think it would be the same title. You're an English major. You know Shakespeare. Do it. thrust one of the guys also a gay porn probably right thrust thrust one of the guys one of the guys yes yes we needed more sex talk just all of the guys just all the guys that's good too that's good butch's girlfriend award for a weak link of the film i mean a lot of ways to go here what do you think so well this is tough because both this and overacting is tough because it's just a vibe i don't think that i don't feel like anyone is doing a great wonderful acting job so i can't get upset you know that's why my answer is cindy lauper as we discussed earlier i just can't believe they didn't do a second take i also just rick is a character i still can't believe i would do a few more passes on rick as a character i feel like i like james brown is not enough of a draw for our like leading lady i think all right next category is the jamie lee curtis unnecessary nudity award which is obviously uh This can go one of two ways They easily could have just gone bra And probably nailed it Interesting Right It's 1985 so they're not going to do that I mean especially since she's like quite obviously wearing a binder For the rest of the movie I was going to ask that Why is she not wearing a bra To push down her boobs at the prom The rest of the movie she's got like Basically an ace bandage on it She's like got a binder on And when she pulls the shirt back together, you can see her bra on underneath. So, you know, it's for cinema. It's for art. Listen, it's 1985. You got to deliver certain things, especially if your poster is what that poster is. And you can't have the – what the heck? That's what happens. You have to have some nudity in there. I don't think this is unnecessary for the movie, to be honest. She tries. She tells him like three times, I'm a female. He won't believe her. What's he going to do? I think it's necessary, but I also would have filmed a second scene with the bra for Comedy Central. You could do it from behind. I know. She opens the shirt from behind. I didn't even know this scene was in the movie until many, many years later. But trading places, like Dan Aykroyd's just sick in bed, and for some reason, she's just topless taking care of him. Yeah. Yeah. This is much more plot-related. Yeah. It's like, in theory, it's story-related. This is art. What's age the worst? What's age the worst? Terry confronting her professor right after overhearing them talk about how hot she is and he goes, well, you're a pretty girl. You can be a model. That's his recovery. Come on, man. Even for 1985, it's like, come on, man. The One of the Guys song is pretty bad. One of the guys. This is just the joy of being in the 80s. You're like, what's the title of the movie? That one could have worked a little harder. They had no money for any pop music at all, so they had to make some really bad shit on a Yamaha synthesizer. This is a good time. Like a preset on the Yamaha? Oh, yeah. This is a what's aged the worst. And just let me land the plane on this. Sherilyn Fenn's 90 rise tying into the legend of the movie now has aged the worst because it's 2026 and Sherilyn Fenn, I don't think, has the same kind of oomph. but when this movie was having its rewatchable kind of renaissance in the 90s a piece of it was it was young Sherilyn Fenn who was Twin Peaks what was that movie Three of Hearts or whatever that was and everybody all the guys I knew including myself we loved her and it was just weird that she was in this movie and it was like this crazy wrinkle to it but now nobody cares I think Sherilyn Fenn because Twin Peaks is an institution like people still it still matters not in the same way that it did in the 90s though I agree. Any others? Because I have a couple other. Quick one, a classic for which age is the worst. Shirts and skins. It doesn't exist. You're right. I coach youth sports, different sports. It would be unfathomable to me to go out to these boys and be like, alright, you're the shirts. Take your shirt. Ridiculous. I feel like I'd be arrested. You've lost your job ten minutes later. No, we don't do it. Kyle, I heard you did shirts and skins. Did you derope my child? Never. No surprise jock inspections in your life? Never. And by the way, jock straps themselves, they were everywhere in the 80s. Revenge of the Nerds has a whole thing. Sixteen Candles does. I don't think I've ever worn a jockstrap in my life, ever. I've worn a cup, but you just go to gym, you put a jock on. It's a very odd thing. Craig, again, jockstrap. Only when I play baseball. Yeah, baseball. You're a catcher. Yeah, for a cup, but not like in gym. No. So we weren't showering in gym class in high school. Mandatory. We were told we had to do it. We were told we had to do it nude. Were you showering in school? I mean, not if I could help it. Our gym teachers said to us, you have to shower. What was the worst thing showering with a bunch of dudes? Yes. And by the way, I remember our gym teacher saying, like, and no bathing suits. This is a nude shower. That was their policy. I'm not kidding. What? That was just what you did. And we're like, all right. It was so weird. So weird. Now they only do it in England. Do they do? Sorry. Can I hit you? Just shots in England. Can I hit you with a what's in the worst? I want a couple from you. Yeah. Okay. Well, I would just say that, like, I think using Tulip as your gazler is, like, but there's some other like you know gender commentary stuff in this movie some like trans commentary stuff that like as much as this is maybe like helped some people there's also just trans jokes that haven't aged well i would say has it aged worse than setting up a high school senior and a double date with a sixth grader you know in just two years she's gonna make him really happy what that i didn't understand that in 1985 now it's like what's happening a lot of why not go ninth grader a lot of girls with braces in this in this uh sex comedy grader is like like what is happening i just didn't get that at all i don't know why that was just like a bait and switch she was just like i have a cousin all right but you know a ninth grader i don't know this type of thing has really changed and become way progressive recently like it wasn't that long ago that there was the olsen twins countdown clock and people would talk about it's true there's a clip that goes around of ashton kutcher hosting punked and he's like so we got hillary duff here she's one of those girls we're just waiting until she turns 18 everyone's like what the fuck but that was not punked it was no big deal like that was just part of the show that's changed a lot recently yeah thank god and sixth grade you're 12 13 11 or 12 heiser um i don't know if this is a what's age the worst or what's age the best but she said i've done a few of these signing conventions where they come in with tons and tons of pictures and not one of my fans has brought that picture to sign. Oh. That's why I truly love my fans. So it's a what's age the best that nobody's done that. It's a what's age the worst that it's been her worst fear. I feel like that definitely happened to her somewhere. Someone has brought her that photo. And then finally, we might as well do the Clayton Rohnert conversation now. We've been dancing around it. Dancing like James Brown? It's tough. What do you want to say? well he this probably was the peak for him if he's listening i feel bad but um yeah it's it's tough this character's all over the place yep not uh not positive with the i think it's more of a character issue than it is even an acting issue maybe it's a rick issue not a clean run yeah yeah that's what i'm the archetypes i think of the movies is the sensitive new boy in town like in footloose that's kevin bacon and he pulls it off but that's just like we have bully and like the babe with brains and all that like that guy and they tried really hard i think i think they the james brown thing is kind of just a weird whiff they try to make him interesting and appealing but it's not the best part of the movie yeah it's like he's a nerd but then no nerd would be able to win a fight with greg tolan on the beach or do like the lunch scene i know so he's like a lurking he's like a loner he's but more loner he's like christian i was gonna say he's not christian slater and heathers he doesn't have the the christian slater ridge i just don't have a handle on this character at all even after 50 watches andrew mccarthy not to bring him up again but like go on like andrew mccarthy in this role because he can do he can do that like nermy guy with like but he has that that cocaine gleam as i like to say about andrew mccarthy dreamy like especially like i i love another 80s high school stable the makeover when you go from totally geek to totally chic yeah she just combed his hair differently and put on like a vest and he's all on the coolest guy in school. He's handsome as hell. Do you feel like we were robbed of the montage? The makeover montage? Totally. Yeah, I agree. Totally. There should have been a montage and it's since the girls got something. They were shopping at 7.15 in the morning before school. They didn't have the budget to go to the mall in Arizona. Are you an Airborne guy in the movie Airborne? No. Okay. No. Airplane and Airheads, but not Airborne. There's a great makeover montage. Really? Yeah, Seth Green. It's really good. Ruffalo, Hannah Rubin, and Partridge overacting. word this is how do you how do you do this i can't for this movie no you can okay what do you got i don't know if it's overacting or if it's underacting or if it's what is this acting but the teacher is just insane in this movie oh the first one and he's like when he apologizes to her at the end he's just i don't know the apology one is so weird because he's like i'm shipping you and rick are you guys going to be together i can tell how you feel about him from your article I'm going to come back to that It's just bizarre It's super weird He was like I can really tell that you care about that guy Rick Are you two kids going to work it out Bizarre And she goes how do you know that And he's like this huge pause I read your column Come on man Just say the line Alright I'm doing the Vincent Chase award Are we sure this character is actually good at his job is terry a good journalist oh yeah what's our evidence that i had that for my picking this i mean like because what is this to go back to i read your article what is this article that she turned in like ostensibly it's about going undercover as a guy she won the this this award but like how much of this article is about this dreamy guy rick that she has a crush on like what what is this fan fiction feels like i feel like she won this so that people didn't get sued i don't know like it's it's a bizarre thing and i have no evidence that she's a great writer i'm really glad you brought this up because i was trying to think of like the premise of the piece so was she trying to expose like i had to do this because it's the only way i could enter a contest because like people's reactions are like i like what you said about like being yourself and you know so it's like how nerds are treated or be yourself i don't know it's like a real think piece like puff think piece why didn't we get to see it why didn't they do like a mock version of the essay what do you mean at the end when she's on the word processor we see her lead yeah oh you have it it's fucking horrible what do you what do you have starts with a question yeah and she's like have you ever wondered what it's like to be inside the guy's locker room she goes fate forced yours truly to be a teenage boy exclamation point it's the worst garbage you've ever read it's terrible okay so So we have our answer. This is your contest winner? Is Terry a good journalist? No. Well, I have another reason. Because the Arizona school system did not want to get sued or something like that. I have another reason to back you up. And I say this as somebody who is a two-fingered typist, but really bad. Oh, her typing sucks? I would be on airplanes typing and like the people in my whatever, the person I sit next to was like, I can't believe you can type that fast. but I was just like, yeah, she, Joyce Heiser had never touched a word processor before. She's like, she's too busy dancing and, and being friends with the worst lead ever. Yeah. I think the answer is she was probably a terrible Jew. And you're, and you said to that person next to you on the plane, you're like, look, I'm trying to compare Pearl Jam's no code to Tracy McGrady. You try to type fast, right? Fucking awesome. Good for you. Type any way you want. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How to stake a word, which people have been clamoring for us to change it to the rob mahoney oh yeah nirvana's bad actually bad actually teen spirit is bad actually i i wouldn't disagree what was it before cr thinks that there was another smith but the cr was perfect yeah especially when you do a harrison ford movie like you guys just did and you get to ask cr of luke wilson could have carried what lies beneath well then when cameron when cameron crow without blinking in that seat was like oh yeah he definitely could have and like was like bought in that was when we were like oh man i think that luke wasn't gonna have been like the whip and the hat and all but yeah he could have done it all because done it all what do you have for how to say um paul tanners paul thomas anderson ripped off this movie for boogie nights and it's a whole movie with a character and the character is hiding something and we're hearing about it hearing about it and at the end the big fucking whip out in the last scene where you're like whoa i think paul thomas anderson's a full horndog. He saw this movie. He liked the reveal. He loved Tizer. Yes. And he inspired his reveal for Dirk Diggler to say I'm a star and star and pull it out in the dressing room. Him, Dirk, pulling it out is Terry. That's really good. Do you think Paul Thomas Anderson and Warren Beatty were at the same screening of just one of the guys? You know what? I think Warren Beatty had a private screening. Oh, you're right. I really do. But in early on... PT's more of a I rented it again and again. Because he wanted to know the wine, like we all did. There's like early on in Boogie Nights, you see close-ups of Dirk's crotch and there's this bulge that he shows. You kind of get that a little bit with Terry, and I think it's that same shock effect in pretty much the last moment of the movie when it's just out. Damn, I'm almost in awe of that take. It's great. I think PT, I was an apology. It's scorching. It's a scorching take. What do you have, Jo? I think Joyce Heiser should have had a bigger career, not Harrison Ford level, but I think she should have had it. And I think Debbie Mazur took Joyce Heiser's career. That's what I think. what Debbie Mazur role do you see Joyce Heiser any of them because like she grew up in Queens like that sort of like real New York girl like attitude I would have loved her I think the problem for her there's a little Kurt Warner with her like she was 26 in this movie yes it's true stuff football reference I got it but like when she made this movie she said she was offered other teen roles and she's like I'm in my late 20s now what can you give me? She said she auditioned for Brian De Palma for Body Double, I think. Well, so when it... That would have been interesting. So when it should have happened for her, it was late 70s when she was like 21, should have been laying the groundwork. She's on tour with Bruce. On tour with the boss. Could she have been the DeMornay part of Whiskey Business? She says she almost got the Terry Garr role in Tootsie when Hal Ashby was directing Tootsie. See, I never know when to believe that if I was an actor... I would say I almost got 20. She had only movies where people cross-dress like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's her niche. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know about the Des Mornes. I don't know. She goes pretty nuts on that part. I would not. I would not replace. She dresses down that part. I would not replace. No. What do you have for her? That's my thing. Joyce Heiser and Donnie Mayer. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a loop-warm take. Mine is... Come on. Crow hop into it. I just think Jacoby in this movie... I think it's an all-time 80s comedy performance. I think it holds up. I was watching it with my fam, and I was laughing at every scene and the lines. And my wife at one point was like, you rarely laugh at movies like this. I don't know that. I was like, this kid just hits my... He's just going for it for an hour and a half, and it fucking kills me every time. And I was trying to think of other movies in the 80s that make me... Like, Fletch does that for me, even though I think we all know Chibi Chase is an asshole. Eddie Murphy in basically his first three movies every scene he's in but not to compare him to people like that but he makes me laugh like that and I don't really have an explanation for it. Real ones know that the 80 comedy trio is Eddie Murphy, Chevy Chase and David Jacoby Not necessarily in that order either Well it's a bunch of meatballs We're just staying on meatballs It's fine. It's idiotic. It's not my thing Bill Murray's kind of trying to do the, and I'm sure Billy Jacoby probably loved that movie, but Phil Murray's trying to be funny, but half the time it's not hitting. Jacoby's batting average is like 90% in this movie. Every line, everything. I really feel like you should... First of all, I think you should get Jacoby on the pod. He should know. He's not Billie Jean. I know. And secondly, I think you should single-handedly resurrect this guy's career in a post-Milk manner kind of way. There's a reason we call it the hottest take category, but I really... I think his batting average in this movie... It would be like when you look at football and you look at the highest QB ratings ever or something. All the guys make sense, and then there's this one random, like, Dante Culpepper, what's he doing here? Yes, yes. That's what I think his stats would be. You'd be looking at the 80s moviereference.com, and you'd be like, yep, Chevy Chase, Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray. Billy Jacoby, 92.7? You're like, wow. What is this? Aaron Brooks on the Saints got really hot for, like, six weeks. Incredible. I just think the advanced metrics love to be this movie. It's not enough to say that he's cooking this movie. He's a fucking Benihana Throwing shrimp into your mouth And doing the onion volcano And making the beating heart and catching the egg in his hat Like he's doing all the tricks It's so fun He's really good I don't think Jennifer Jason Leigh is right for that role Do you want to see her as Terry? No, I don't think so I don't like it Roner said he beat out James Legros Oh, that's from Point Break? That would have been much better Roach. He's a good actor. He was the original Raylan Gibbons, the first one. Best that guy award? Probably Clayton Rohnert. I the one of the nerd guys. I know who you're saying. Ari Gross. Yeah, Ari Gross. Yes. Because he was on Ellen for like 900 years. You know what I think of Ari Gross? He's the guy in the opening scene of Minority Report who's going to kill his wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Tom Cruise stops him and puts the cuff on him. Yeah. That guy was like, oh, I know him. Yeah. I don't know his name, but I do now. Clayton Runner 90210 episode Which one? No Which one? Dylan When Dylan's drinking again season 5 I drink it hard too One of the best 8 episode cycles in the history of television I love that Dylan Finally tries heroin and drives off a mountain Almost dies and is in the hospital Clayton Runner the doctor Oh really? He's been in every show Good for him He's got a real 90210 face You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm surprised he wasn't in there more. DM Waiters Award, the Trekkies? Yeah. Or the guy with all the animals, the reptile. Oh, reptile guy? Yeah. It's hard to pick one because Jacoby doesn't qualify and all the attention goes to him. But 80s nerds, I mean, we've talked about this before, but this era of what we think a nerd is, is just such a funny capture time in a bottle. Yeah, now if somebody brought reptiles into high school, he'd probably be expelled. He has a lizard and iguana in the shower. But it's also like Trekkies don't think they're aliens from Mars. You know what I mean? It's just sort of like nerds were like the Saved by the Bell nerds. Like it's just like a different kind of thing. And it's his own like clownery. What do you have for recasting couch director of Citi? Or you already did it? I would do Citi. And I would put us in like L.A. Like Santa Monica? Yeah, Santa Monica. Okay. What do you have? For some reason in this category, my mind always goes to Fincher. I don't know why. David Fincher? just one of the guys. When Buddy finally has sex, though, he has to do it with, like, a blade attached to his dick. Like, it's just something absolutely disgusting and disturbing. I don't know what it is, but I always go to Fincher. I'd like to see his take on it. Okay. I was thinking, could Patrick Dempsey have also been Rick in this movie? Like Ronnie? Yeah, like, we need to go more nerdy where it was more rags to riches than Clayton Rohnert. Yeah, yeah. Everyone in this movie is too old. That's another issue. Except for Billy Jacoby, who's the perfect age. Yeah. But did we need somebody who's a more believable? All right, you want Dempsey. Or somebody of that ilk from that era. Yeah. I like the Dempsey call. They do more work making him a nerd. He's a lawnmower boy. Right. He's actually mowing the lawn. I got one. Yeah. If you want to up the acting ability just a little bit on Joyce, Sandra Bullock would be 19 when this movie came out. Absolutely not. Why not? Sandra Bullock. She can't pass as a guy. Miss Congeniality. What are you talking about? I mean, she has that tomboy nature to her. I feel like she's perfect for that. Her features, though, like, I don't think her features... Pre-nose job, Sandra? She has it. I love potion number nine, Sandra. Allegedly. What about, I mean, Demise sit right there. We know she likes the short haircut. The D.I.J. 22 years old. The D.I.J. Demise. Right off St. Elmo's Fire, Demi Moore. Come on. It's pretty good. What do you have for your flex? I did the, it's the book about metals exchange. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sleeping with my mom's friend and no one acknowledged that. I'm glad you brought that up. Imagine this movie we don't mention that What did he just say? Half-East Runner Research We covered most of this The original title was I Was a Teenage Boy I got to get rid of that That was the name of the article, right? We have, yes And we talked about The Ralph Macchio thing That's what they were going for Clayton Rohnner is still upset about That they didn't use his fall over the fence That they used the stunt double he didn't think it was good enough he said he did one himself that was really good how many clayton roehner interviews he did a lot of interviews you know he didn't really do that street fights for the rest of your life um he also said that every time it showed on cable they would get 17 cents and it paid well for a while great um yeah the director said she got fat residual checks for a long time and then paramount prevented them from being called trekkies the trekkies so they were trekkies but not actually saying they're trekkies and then billy jane was was uh i'm just gonna read this quote this is from like 10 years ago okay after the thing joe saw the whatever when they all got together he said i started thinking of the sequel we had a couple drinks that night got a little hammered now i know i came up with a great one but don't know if anyone wrote it down talking about his idea she goes into a newspaper thing and zapka comes back and he's going to buy out the paper and now she has to go back undercover and do something and the next next thing he says is i have three ex-wives like to basically say like hey i come up with weird ideas but i a mess so he ends that pitch with i have three ex okay so go with Jacoby what a great he still got it he at that um panel yeah they introduce everyone before the screening yeah so that's on the video he's not there and they do the screening and then they're like hey it was there and he walks in with like a scotch in his hand so oh really yeah it might have been an action 30 years for him. Yeah. So, you know, three ex-wives and I get blackout drunk at a 30th anniversary screening. I've heard worse. I've heard worse. Milk Manor time. I think we might have to give him a ringer podcast. Yeah. Yeah. And Jacoby. Jacoby and Jacoby. Yeah. Jacoby versus Jacoby. Jacoby though. Yeah. That's really good. Apex Mountain. Every actor in the movie and the director. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Not Sherilyn Fenn. Every actor but Sherilyn Fenn. Yeah. What's fun about the movie is that they're all kind of no names. Like there's no one coming in really where you're like, oh, that guy's carrying. I didn't know any of these people. But the movie would have a different legacy if like Downey's in it. You know, Sherilyn Downey's here is your point, but it's like Downey's randomly here or something like that. You're like, oh, my God, have you seen that? Downey as Rick. Downey as Rick? Very different energy. Different energy. Apex Mound, 80s high school movies. I'd love to say yes, but no. Funny teenage boy characters in 80s movies Yes Jacoby's Wait wait wait funny teenage boys In 80s movies Is he the best teenage boy in an 80s movie Funniest Have you not been listening He loves this guy He's much funnier than Ferris Bueller Ferris Bueller is a good one But he's not funnier than Buddy He's a cooler guy Ferris is really good This is Bill's thing This is your guy Well, I love him, but I don't want to put him above Ferris. But in funniest, he's funnier than Ferris. Ferris is a leading man and cooler. Batting average is higher. Oh, yeah. What about Jacobi's? So our nominees are Jacoby Jones and the Ravens, who got the famous pass. Dave Jacoby, Jacoby Brissett, or Jacoby Ellsbury. What about Jacoby, Jacoby, and Myers? Or the law firm, right? Jacoby, Myers? Yeah, yeah. Jacoby Ellsbury is like a five tool. Jacoby Ellsbury is pretty good. I like that one. Jacoby Jones had a kick return in the Super Bowl right before the blackout for a touchdown. That's a pretty big moment. And he's no longer with us. I'm going to say Dave Jacoby. I will also say Dave Jacoby based on the like wall of text, like all caps rants that we get from him on whatever TV show he's currently watching. Cruz or Hanks? It's Cruz. Which part? Rick? Greg Tolan. Yeah. I'd like to see Cruz in those gloves. Yeah, the gloves, lifting tables. Lighting that losing it era where he's making bad choices in the high school movies. I wrote down either Cruz as Zabka or I wrote Hanks as Buddy. Sure. What about Hanks as Rick? Rick is dreamy. Tom Hanks is not dreamy. He's a lot of things. I think he's kind of dreamy. You good with Cruz? Yeah. Scorsese or Spielberg? Scorsese. Scorsese. I want to see Martin Scorsese. Just like you want to see Fincher is just one of the guys. I want to see Martin Scorsese. I can't have Spielberg close to this much sex. Yeah. He would take Buddy and instead of being obsessed with boobs, he'd be like, Buddy's into dinosaurs. It would suck. Yeah. Too much sex for Spielberg. So for Scorsese, we're not having brewskis after school. We're doing coke. Yeah. The college boyfriend's definitely doing bumps. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just like, where's Terry? Yeah. I appreciate all the casual high school beer drinking. They get home after the day like they're like a 45-year-old construction worker. He's like, yeah, you want a beer? Yeah. We're not having Sunny D. We're having a brewski. It's like a Tuesday. You want a beer? Yeah. No, I'm at soccer practice. I can't have a beer. What are you talking about? I need homework. It's a brewski. New category. Uh-oh. Here we go. Best hang, worst hang. Best hang in the movie, worst hang in the movie. I think we know your answer for best hang. I think Terry's a pretty good hang. When Terry comes home drunk from the cave And she sees her shitty boyfriend there And she goes bummer It's really good She comes down and she's all drunk I have worse than Terry's boyfriend Kevin Kevin who shows up And just drinks wine with her 15 year old brother who's doing his algebra homework And trying to hit on a girl What's this guy's deal? He's in college and he's like 30 I know, I know, he's a terrible character And what college is he going to? Is he going to like ASU? Lee McCloskey, who plays Kevin, has been on a bunch of soap operas, like every soap opera. Santa Barbara, Dallas, but also General Hospital, multiple times, Days of Our Lives. But if you go to his Wikipedia page, it's just all about how he's a visual artist. Like he has clearly done a hard edit on his own Wikipedia page. And it's all about how he's a visual artist and all of his credits. And then at the bottom, you get his like filmography. Oh, really? But it's just like a couple paragraphs of like. Source is not verified, I bet. It's all his ass changing it. All right, it's fine. I want to see, you know, when you go to IMDB. I just think that he tried to bury like just one of the guys or whatever. And here we are talking about it. Every other person in that movie, it's like the top of their Wikipedia. Known best for. Yeah, best known best known for this, yeah. So when you go to his IMDB and they do the known for? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which almost should be a category for us. Known for. For movies. Well, remember you used to do the Hall of Fame plaque? Like that was the category. known for it's basically there it's your imdb mount rushmore so for him it's inferno no star trek voyager one episode just one of the guys and star trek deep space nine one episode no but see that's the thing is like it's with love and respect to all algorithms no imdb is top four some because it should be dallas he was like a recurring on dallas and on and he was on a million episodes of santa barbara so i never watched those shows but like it shouldn't be one episode of star Trek Voyager for this guy. Life Goes On, Jake and the Fat Man. Life Goes On, he would do. Dallas, Hamburger, the motion picture, Love Boat, five episodes, but five different Love Boat characters. Incredible stuff. There's a fucking movie called Hamburger. Fall Guy, Cart to Heart, Buck Rogers. This guy was cranking it. Yeah. Great job by him. Great job by Lee McCloskey. Pickin' Nets, here we go. So why was Terry with the college guy? What was it about him? Oh, status. Right? Just to get a car? Why was Elle Woods with her shitty boyfriend at the beginning of Legal Eglons? I thought you were dating when she was a junior and he was a senior. You think he went to her high school? Yeah. You think he went to her high school? I do, yeah. But I actually think she was like a freshman and he was a senior. Maybe. You know, like that. Well, listen, she's sophisticated and smart. Yeah, or a sixth grader. Everything's in play with this movie. With this movie, you don't know. All right, we got to talk about it. So Terry, it's April, senior year. Nobody's talking about college. And she just leaves school. For two weeks and enrolls in a different school. And goes to the other high school, which, by the way, seems like it's about four minutes away from this high school. Nobody knows her. Nobody in the other high school knows her, even though she's obviously one of the most attractive persons in the other high school. is a guy just enrolls right away, takes classes, is there for two weeks, and then leaves and just goes back to the other school? How does she register at the attendance office? You don't have to go. Who cares? Do you feel like they should have made Buddy a Ferris Bueller-esque I-can-change-the-school-records-from-my-computer-at-home kind of guy? Don't the parents have to sign off? Of course. She just makes it seem like she's switching tires or something. It's preposterous. She treats it like she's going to a different mall in the next town. You can't do that. Granted, we're in a world where the movies that came out just in this vicinity, Breakfast Club, Emilio Estevez shatters all the glass by screaming when they're dancing in the gymnasium. Weird science that make a girl out of a computer. It's not like we were realistic all over the place here. Ferris Bueller, nothing that happened. Ferris Bueller's leading the he's on the parade yeah so it's like we were bending it here we're all thinking it when we're watching it like how does she get registered at that school doesn't make sense she needs a hacker friend one singular yeah the hacker friend nine times that scene where ferris yeah yeah yeah talking about yeah um why did buddy dimer out to the boyfriend he comes and he's like i'm gonna kill you and she's like all right i'm gonna tell you but you gotta take me like he's been so loyal to helping her with the story and then he just but he likes chaos because sometimes like he just let Sherilyn Fenn in, you know what I mean? Like he likes. So he knows there's dressed up girls at the prom and just wants to go. Yeah. Notice he shows up to the prom and his tuxedo t-shirt. Oh my God. Yeah. He's fishing a barrel there, but also Kevin's, you can tell me now or tell me in the hospital. Like it's a pretty big threat. So I think Billy or Buddy finally, it finally falls. Okay. Great line delivery on Kevin too. I love when he was like, she's like telling away the car. He's like, I've tried that. He doesn't enjoy waiting in cars. There's a whole comedy. What other nitpicks do you have? Um, I understand that they're trying to make Terry thoughtful and intellectual. There's no high school senior girl who has a giant poster of Ernest Hemingway on her wall. What are we doing here? It has huge, huge scenery. It's like one of these places, Bill. One of these posters here, but huge. And Hemingway looks pissed and old and bald. It's a terrible, terrible poster. Terrible. I agree. And that wouldn't be Terry's idol anyway. She mentions Woodward and Bernstein. Could we have a Woodward and Bernstein poster? you would have Duran Duran she has all that shit this is also Apex Mountain right now for high school posters Ferris famously has this Simple Minds poster it's so cool come on with the Hemingway enough weird science we had that too great posters anything for you nitpicks beyond the entire premise of the movie nobody from the other high school knowing Terry is a good nit yeah i just feel like you're like that this is not she's not in like phoenix like sheryl and fenn trailed her we don't know for how long right but the people at the other school they do know terry but they terry is a girl to them they buy completely that this is some dude they don't think it's usually in her high school be like where's terry has she been kidnapped yeah do you think her teachers would be like do you think her teacher was like you should be a model is like huh I wonder if it was because I said you should be a model. She just disappeared for the next two weeks. Taylor went to do porn in California. She's gone. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TBL, black cast are untouchable. Clearly, this is an untouchable. Do you know about Just One and the Girls? No. So there's a direct-to-video, Corey Haim and Nicole Eggert film. All right, you got my attention. How did I not see this? Called Just One and the Girls, and then it was renamed Anything for Love. but it's not a like actual but he Corey Haim dresses a girl to be on the cheerleading team I think it is or something like that. I think I've locked this out in my mind and he gets with Nicole. I feel like I've seen this I mean. Blown Away that's that type of era. I've never heard of this movie 1993. Direct to video just one of the girls Direct to video say no more. Yeah direct to video Corey Haim 1993 say no more Well Blown Away which is pretty pushed in the envelope Not the Tommy Lee Jones one. No, that one. The other one. Yeah. But has a Corey Feldman performance that is in the running for one of the funniest performances anyone's ever done in a movie. Is Nicole Eggert the queen of direct... Kyle knows. Is Nicole Eggert... He is out of his mind in that movie. Is there anyone in the 90s more direct-to-video than Nicole Eggert? Like... Corey Haim. Yeah. Nicole Eggert's one of my goats. She was like... One of my goats. Yeah, the queen of the direct-to-video. I almost want you to watch Flown Away with Corey Haim and Nicole Eggert. First of all it has to be on Tubi Yes I watched an entire movie the other night With Helen Slater from Legend of Billie Jean Supergirl Billy Zane And it was like And there was one other person in it But it was like Billy Zane is a doctor And she falls for him But bad stuff started It was basically like a Lifetime movie And it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life and it was written by robbie benson and his wife oh yeah the voice of the beast himself robbie benson yeah wow and it was look at you it was just really really terrible i just want to point that out uh is this movie better with wayne jenkins or 40 other people kyle always has something here i struggled really hard yeah i was trying to find one i had you know what happened what happened i listened to the what lies beneath podcast yeah and cr gave us fergie the florist and I'm like, I fucking love this. I think Fergie the florist is the editor of the newspaper and the article is so successful that he wants her to do another one and she's like, no, I'm not doing that anymore and he looks at her and he goes, you're going to do this for me or I'm going to clip your tits like I clipped your mummy. If there's a heaven, Terry, she ain't in it. TR, thank you so much for bringing Fergie the florist to this pod. I'm laughing out loud listening to him do what lies beneath. And I had nothing for this category. And this is one of my categories. And I'm like fucking Fergie is the editor, just cutting roses and grading papers and doing newspapers. And he wants to do it again. And that's why Terry's mom is gone. She's actually in deep with Fergie. The florist has been a whole terrible thing that happened. That's what I want. I thought for sure you're going to go Tony Romo there. Well, Jim, she's going to try to be a guy in another high school, but it's going to be hard, Jim. See if she can do it. Just want to ask her who gets it. Not only is Billy Jacoby the answer, I looked at the best actor in a supported role. I did. Don Amici wins for Cocoon. We have William Hickey for Pritzy's Honor. Robert Loggia for Jagged Edge. How does he get nominated for that? Have you seen Jagged Edge? Robert Loggia. No, I've not seen Jagged Edge. Eric Roberts for Runaway Train and Klaus Maria Brandauer for Out of Africa. I feel like that category is wide open. When's the Pritzy's Honor pod? I would love to do Pritzy's Honor, but by the way, cocoon put some respect on cocoon of course but i just you know my guy donna mitche winning is that's not like a career win though thanks for your service donna mitche here's a here's an oscar unanswerable questions um so she goes back to the other high school yeah yeah they let her like make up her work like how does that how does that part work i mean as far as i can tell the only class she went to his PE so I don't know but she's so smart she's a really good journalist so I'm sure she could just just crush it have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a boy you gotta go back and see that lead if you really like this movie it's horrific really tough Carrie Bradshaw would never any other inansibles no what piece of memorabilia would you want or not want Billy's Alcabullion gloves. I want them so fucking bad. Bill, you go through those websites sometimes. If you find those gloves, can you please get them for me? I had Greg Tolan's fight gloves. Come on, baby. So after the movie ended, I asked my son, what should be my answer for this category? And he's like, what do you mean? The gloves. I couldn't believe I even asked. They're so great. I'm going with the tube socks, though. I think if you were like, these are the tube socks. Probably would wash them. From just one of the guys. the tube socks. And they're huge. The biggest tube socks I've ever seen. Coach Finstock Award, which is now the Coach Finstock Mr. Miyagi Award for Best or Worst Life Lesson. I went with, it's okay to transfer schools, dress up like a boy, and ruin multiple lives just to win a newspaper contest would be the lesson. I don't know if that's a good one or a bad one. Whose life was ruined? Don't you feel like everyone had some personal growth? I would think Greg Toland's life might have been ruined. I think he got back together with You think he got back together with the prom queen? Yeah I think Bruce Springsteen's life was ruined Because he lost her to Warren Beatty after this movie And you're going back Yeah that's true Well I was Because I just saw that Bruce Springsteen movie With the bear When he plays short Bruce Springsteen Starring the bear Tiny Bruce Springsteen He's tiny Bruce The bear himself But it's all about how he wrote Nebraska But he was dating Our girl Joyce during this Allegedly from the research No one plays Joyce in the Bruce Springsteen movies That'd be awesome I've not seen it I think that in this movie The gym coach, the bowler guy Is like store brand Coach Finstock He's kind of doing some of the same thing But I mean listen, horny will kick embarrassment's ass anytime Sew that on a pillow That's incredible Can I offer mine all balls itch. It's a fact. That's fucking awesome. That is a good life lesson. It's just important to know. What do you have for double feature choice? Would you go see the man? We have the same, don't we? I think we do. Yeah, we do. It's Soul Man. Here we go. We finally landed on Soul Man. It's C. Tom's Howell and Soul Man. Dan's been pushing for Soul Man for a while. The deeply problematic things you do for academic pursuits. I don't even think it's streaming. They buried it. I think it's one of those where Steve Thomas Howell is like, I'm going to use half of my savings to get rid of this. Yeah. Can I say something else? Years ago, I got to meet Steve Thomas Howell. We met him on a TV show. Comes on as a guest. And Nate Burleson and I at the time were like, oh, my God, we got to talk to you about Soul Man off the air. Because like, holy shit. Right. And he was obviously like kind of embarrassed and downed. But he's like, I will tell you one thing. Everybody in that fucking town wanted that role. And every single actor of my age fought for it and wanted it. And when I got that role, it was a huge, huge deal. And then it became what it became. But he kind of shook his head a little bit, but didn't make the point that, like, I got it. But all these other guys who don't get asked about that movie wanted it badly. And guys who are still major movie stars to this day. So I kind of respected that. Yeah, I will just say that I believe Comedy Central, like, legitimately did do double features. Because Soul Man ran on Comedy Central in the 90s. Yes. I had this written down, too. Craig, do you know what Soul Man is? Do you know the premise? The Blackface movie? yes yeah i totally know that's how needs a scholarship i don't think blackface movie is giving enough credit yeah it's like just skipping over it's harsh because we were doing we're doing a lot of body swap right and then in this movie we do gender swap and then they're like just fuck it full race swap yeah and it's it's a julie louis dreyfus is in it yeah james earl jones is like the area professor yeah right on it's like it's a disaster i saw it in the theater you did you went and saw i mean a lot of people did i mean i saw everything in the theater but yeah it was the trailer was good for it. It was like, people were like, oh, this will be really funny. My only other non... If C. Thomas Howell has successfully destroyed every copy of Soul Man... What about Summer School? Mark Harmon Summer School. I love that movie. Summer School's fantastic. Love it. Mr. Shoop, that's on your list. Chainsaw and Bob, it is on my list. I was thinking about the Trekkie nerds and stuff like that. It's just very like summer school. Chainsaw and Dave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had Can't Buy Me Love because it takes us from one side of the mid-80s to the other. We go from 85 to 87 with basically the same kind of premise. And then Can't Buy Me Love 80s movies end with Can't Buy Me Love. Then we move into the late 80s and it just gets different and weird. And it's come up a lot on this pod. I broke the rule of this category. I'm just going to do a quadruple feature because in April of 85 all four of these movies were in theaters at the same time. just one of the guys girls just want to have fun which i love yeah the sure thing and the breakfast club that's in april of 85 wow this is why my generation rules one thing that they love to brag about uh the people who made this film is that when it came out there was no ad money for it from columbia yeah they put all their money behind the john travolta disaster perfect um and perfect absolutely tanked and just one of the guys didn't do super well but it like won the box office and And they were like, Columbia did not support us at all. They put all their money on this shitty John Travolta movie. And it failed and we won. So that's their bragging rights. We beat Perfect. Is Perfect the one where he's doing the aerobics? Yeah, the thrusting. Great gifts. I'm Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you call him Perfect shitty, really hurt my feelings. I'm so sorry, Bill. I've been talking about it. I don't. He's a journalist again, right? Just like this movie. I think it's another drama that's now a comedy movie. Okay. It's in the Regarding Henry area. Okay, well, I love it. I love and defend Regarding Henry, so I will stand with you on the side. It's now a hilarious movie to rewatch, and it has one of the funniest closing credits sequences that they didn't realize was funny. It's each of them doing aerobics, and they show them one at a time, and they're doing this online. Yeah, it's like, it's unironic. What's the premise in Perfect that matches the premise of Regarding Henry, which is having a traumatic brain injury can make you nice? Which is the premise of one of my favorite Harrison Ford films, Regarding Henry. In Perfect, I haven't seen it in a while, but he falls in love with Jamie Lee Curtis, who's an aerobic instructor who blew the whistle on her swimming coach and then wanted to live a peaceful life as an aerobics instructor. Travolta is doing a thing about aerobics. It's a new single scene, right? As the new single scene. Rolling Stone decides this isn't sexy enough. We need more. What about this girl? And they put the whole sex scandal thing in there in it. He doesn't know about it. and he ends up, her life gets destroyed. And that's kind of the movie. Okay. With a lot of, like, uncomfortable eye contact. And then he goes to Rolling Stone and yells at Jan Wenner, who's playing himself. Really? Jan Wenner plays himself in that movie? Jan Wenner plays himself. Okay, I'll watch. I'm in. I'm in. This is drama that's now comedy. I'm in. You got it. Jan Wenner has lines. Just when I thought it was out. And then at the end, well, it has one of those things where they write the scene and they take his notes and they write a much worse story about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and it's really mean so then it has all the people reading the story and getting bummed out and then he feels bad about that Jamie Lee Curtis won't talk to him. It's really bad like it's like career like Geraldo's career was the same for nine years after the movie. Jesus. It was it. He bombed. And the credits it's like predator credits like what the hell is this that I'm watching? And it's also like Rolling Stone thinking this would be good for us. We should do this and Yon is going to be. We should show Yon Wenner This is like why the 80s were so great everyone was just doing cocaine and making bad decisions. Who won the movie? Billy Jacoby. Billy Jacoby. I think Billy Jacoby and Warren Beatty. Here we go. I think Bill said before we started recording, Craig, if you don't like this movie, I'm making you leave my house immediately. Go on. Look, I can respect time and place. I can respect 14-year-old horny Kyle and Bill loving this. And there's no internet in 1985 or 1990 or wherever you saw this movie. and it meant a lot to you and that's what you took with it for the rest of your life and now you look back on it fondly i like the movie accepted i don't think there's any nudity in that movie but joanna thought it's terrible but i saw it when i was 12 i just had to get one the movie you love is terrible i owe you what do you want me to say did you make he was never gonna like this i did was liz horrified we both thought it was terrible when craig starts his dissertation with look you're you're fucked you're fucked i don't even blame you you weren't there and i think that's just what it is it has to be that way it's there's a generational there's generational blinders on and it's meant to be that way that's how did you think about the reveal scene were you surprised yeah what's funny is 10 seconds before it in that scene i was like whip them out like that's the only way you're going to convince do it and she literally did it and i were like oh my god wow you called them out i think you're gonna i think you're gonna I think about it for a long time and it's been growing on you. I mean, if she's wearing a bra on that scene or if it's shot from behind, this movie is completely irrelevant, right? I think that's right. Except for Billy Jacoby's award-winning performance. Did you enjoy Billy Jacoby? No, I thought he was terrible. Across the board, they're all bad in this movie. Here's what I'll say. Zabka's good. I actually think he's good. Zabka's good? I think Zabka's good. Interesting. I think everyone else is rough. You thought Jacoby, you didn't think the horniest character ever was funny? No, I just thought, I think there's a certain cheesiness that some of these 80s movies have, that the line delivery, like, I think all three of you delivered every line from the movie way better than any character. Here's my prediction, Bill. There's never going to be a movie that Kyle and I both want to do that Craig is going to like. I like sneakers. You didn't like sneakers. I liked it enough. Don't rewrite history. Don't indulge us, Horlbeck. Don't rewrite history, Craig. This movie, 100 minutes, right? 100 minutes? 100 minutes. Craig, you know that now that, like, you have changed me that, I used to go and look up a movie. I forgot to put Center Club in there. It's actually 100 minutes. That should have been your flex. I used to look at the Rotten Tomatoes rating. Now the first thing I look at is because of you. I call it the Beck effect. And it's like, you haven't changed the way I look at movies, dude. It's unbelievable. Runtime box office, yeah. That's what you got to do. I also thought Terry, Liz and I were both like, Terry looks like Michael Jackson in this movie. Terry looks like Michael Jackson? Yes. Late stage speed racing Michael Jackson? No, boy Terry looks like a young, white Michael Jackson. I mean, I'm trying to make it work. And we couldn't stop seeing it. She's in the loose tie, which we never talked about. Why she didn't tie the whole movie? You guys were home talking, saying that Terry's like Michael Jackson? Yeah. Elvis Costello. She's doing Costello. Yeah, they did say that. That Elvis Costello. I don't know. I'll be interested to see what the public thinks of this choice of a movie. I know I was excited for it. Kyle just brought it up. Sure thing. I love this. That's my favorite movie we did in 2025, Sure Thing. Came out a month before this. I thought it was fantastic. Phil, everyone's going to be so baffled why we did this movie. You know that to be true. You think? I heard the people at Netflix Worn in unless you did just one of the guys Bill we love the pod but you gotta do it The crushing influence of Ted Sarandon This is why we snuck it in right before The Netflix move My generation has been robbed of like Kyle You saying that this was the first time you saw boobs And it was like on the big screen You like trying to pause it I don't have a memory of the first time Somebody like pulled up Some weird website on their iPod touch And showed me it and I was like okay I have some good news for this movie, by the way. Available on Tubi. Awesome. Tubi, Tubi. Of course they have it. Yeah. It's right next to Legend of Billie Jean on Tubi. Is that true? I was on my flight yesterday watching it on Tubi. Kyle Tubied on a plane. I've never Tubied on a plane. The Delta Wi-Fi worked great. It was no problem at all. We should start doing polls. We should do – I want to do generational polls. I wish I could, like, see the age – like, when this flips. The demographic. Yes. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think I'm on the right side of history. I think if I took anybody under 35 and had them watch this movie for the first time, I feel confident they would side with me. But maybe I'm wrong. I think that's fair. I think that's true. Yeah. I don't disagree. There was no way you were ever going to like this movie. And I'm not mad at you. It's a moment in time. Well, next week's movie is a little more highly regarded. Oh, yeah? Yeah. It's regarding Henry? No. Oh, I thought that was the choice of words. Oh, we have one more. Yeah, right, right, right. Oh, yeah. There's one more we got to squeeze in. One more? The first Netflix one is going to be a big one. One more pre-Netflix squeeze in. One more. What are you doing, though? No, it's... You might as well... You're going to get Daylight. It's going to be on Wednesday. We're doing another... Van and Chris and I are doing another 48 Hours. It's a special... Awesome. It's the sequel that frustrates me the most, and I've seen it... Should you call this What the Hell January? It could be. Well, it's... It's January. 48 Hours is your favorite movie, right? The original. Yeah, it's probably the one I've seen the most. Yeah, yeah. And then the sequel I was incredibly excited about. And it's just so frustrating. So we're going to talk about our frustrating world. Okay. That'll be Wednesday's rewatchable. What do we care? The Redevil wears Prada. Like, when's that? Because I'm ready for that, too, baby. We just watched it. Ben had never seen it. And it was fast-ended that I made it number one on my most rewatchables list. And we watched it. Thought it was a good movie. It is. It's a great movie. It's, I think, appeals to all people. Yeah. I don't know anybody who doesn't like that movie. Yeah. Denny Chase, too. There's all kinds of stuff to talk about. Yeah. I don't know what happened to you. Will you have a career? I don't know. He's kind of like Terry in this movie playing a guy. Is he a chef in Devil Wears Productions? Yeah. Yeah. There's one point he asked him halfway for a birthday. He made her grilled cheese and he's like really mad. Joanna, pleasure. Kyle, great to see you. As always, thank you for my t-shirt. Of course. We'll see you next time.