April 13, 2026 Hour 3 Chris Easterling & Mark Lye
41 min
•Apr 13, 20265 days agoSummary
Miller and Moulton discuss the 2026 NFL Draft with Cleveland Browns beat reporter Chris Easterling, focusing on the Browns' draft strategy with picks at 6 and 24, followed by Masters golf recap with analyst Mark Lye covering Rory McIlroy's back-to-back victory and the difficulty of Augusta National's closing holes.
Insights
- The Browns should prioritize offensive line and wide receiver in early picks, with potential trade-down opportunities to teams like Dallas or Kansas City to accumulate more draft capital for a multi-year rebuild
- Miles Garrett's contract restructuring makes him easier to trade, but his no-trade clause and pattern of skipping offseason programs complicates any potential deal despite his elite on-field performance
- Augusta National's difficulty on Sunday's back nine stems more from mental pressure and course design than excessive setup—even elite players like Justin Rose falter due to commitment lapses on crucial shots
- The 2026 draft class is unusually deep at offensive positions with limited elite talent at QB, RB, and TE in the first round, creating value opportunities for teams willing to wait on receivers
- Golf's psychological component means the difference between success and failure is often a single thought rather than technical execution, making Augusta's pressure environment uniquely challenging
Trends
NFL teams increasingly using multiple first-round picks to accumulate depth rather than singular star acquisitions in rebuildsDraft strategy shifting toward offensive line investment as foundational element for franchise building2026 quarterback class depth causing teams to be cautious about trading future first-round picks compared to 2027 QB class expectationsWide receiver talent distribution spreading across rounds 2-3 rather than concentrating in first round, creating mid-round valueGolf course setup balancing playability with championship difficulty—avoiding unplayable conditions while maintaining competitive integrityElite athletes from other sports (baseball, basketball, football) increasingly drawn to golf due to mental/psychological skill componentVeteran player availability and contract restructuring creating trade market flexibility for contending teams
Topics
2026 NFL Draft StrategyCleveland Browns Draft NeedsNFL Trade Market DynamicsMiles Garrett Contract and Trade ClauseOffensive Line EvaluationWide Receiver Draft Class Depth2026 Quarterback Class ProspectsMasters Golf Tournament AnalysisAugusta National Course DifficultyGolf Psychology and Mental PerformanceRory McIlroy Back-to-Back Masters VictoryJustin Rose Masters PerformanceNFL Draft Capital AccumulationMulti-Year Rebuild StrategyGolf Pressure and Execution
Companies
Akron Beacon Journal
Chris Easterling covers the Cleveland Browns for the publication and provides draft analysis
Floor Meisters Studios
Identified as the broadcast location for Miller and Moulton show
People
Chris Easterling
Covers Cleveland Browns and provides detailed 2026 NFL Draft analysis focusing on team needs
Mark Lye
Provides Masters Tournament recap and analysis of Rory McIlroy's victory and course difficulty
Mark Miller
Co-host of the show discussing NFL Draft and golf
David Moulton
Co-host of the show discussing NFL Draft strategy and Masters coverage
Rory McIlroy
Won 2026 Masters Tournament back-to-back, discussed for his chip shot execution on hole 17
Justin Rose
Finished second at Masters, discussed for losing commitment on hole 11 second shot
Andrew Berry
Met with reporters at annual meetings regarding draft strategy and 2027 quarterback class considerations
Miles Garrett
Discussed regarding contract restructuring, no-trade clause, and offseason program participation patterns
Quotes
"If they come out of the first day with a tackle and a wide receiver, I would give it a gist at the moment."
Chris Easterling•Early segment
"This is a total goober draft. This is a Daniel Jeremiah draft."
Mark Miller•Mid-show
"The difference between a good shot and a bad shot is a thought. You can throw technique out."
Mark Lye•Masters recap segment
"Once you drive up Magnolia Lane, it's like, okay, everything I learned in the past, it don't matter anymore."
Mark Lye•Augusta National discussion
"Miles isn't going to not be ready to play. Everybody trusts Miles to be ready to play."
Chris Easterling•Browns discussion
Full Transcript
You're listening to Miller and Moulton coming at you from the Floor Meisters Studios. Floor Meisters, keep it in real. And now, here's Mark Miller and David Moulton. We are halfway home, at least in Jacksonville and Tampa St. Pete. Final hour of the show in the 239. Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte, Venice areas, Live Oak Lake City and surrounding areas. Miller and Moulton, Millerandmoulton.com, Miller underscore Moulton on X, Mark Lye in 35 minutes to recap the Masters. Rory making some more history at Augusta by going back to back. But we want to focus on the teams we think will be the most interesting in the draft. And say whatever you want about the Browns, but they have been interesting. And they're one of five teams with multiple first round picks at 6 and 24. Chris Easterling covers the Browns for the Akron Beacon Journal. You can follow Chris on X, the letter C, Easterling, ABJ. C, Easterling, ABJ for the Akron Beacon Journal. Chris, it's David and Mark. Good morning. How are you? Just fine. Morning. How are you guys doing? Well, we are doing fine. Before we get to the Browns, I just want to ask you as a Kentucky, as a UK alum, how you doing? I mean, Indiana wins a football title. Okay. Your basketball program is not what you want it to be. Are you okay? Do you need to pick me up? Do we need to call you monthly? How's it going? I'm doing okay. I knew it was problematic. I knew it was going to be a long March run when I was getting ready to listen to the... They were going to play Florida and spend your day at Rop. You really want to get the crowd going. George Michael's Airless Whisper is playing over the P. I was like, you know what? I'm never going to dance again. That's fantastic. That is absolutely fantastic. Hey, you know, it's a new era in college sports, but I'm hanging in there. I'm hanging in there. Gotcha. Never going to dance again, but hanging in there. Good for you. So the Browns have three picks on the first 39. I did more draft homework this weekend than I may have in the 20 years that I've done a radio show with my co-host. But for the Browns, I mean, this one, I've been over analyzing with the Browns. I really didn't need to tackle a wide receiver. So set up the draft from what you think the Browns need to do. Well, a tackle wide receiver is absolutely... If they come out of the first day with a tackle and a wide receiver, I would give it a gist at the moment. Obviously, the players have to go out and play eventually, but just in terms of what they need to get, tackle wide receiver 100%, I might even say tackle and they can come out with that Toledo Safety manual, McNeil Warren. I'd be fine with that because if there's one spot on the defense where maybe they can use a little help, safety is there. But I don't care what order it is. I do sort of because I think the top of the tackle group is a little better than the top of the wide receiver group. But regardless, tackle wide receiver call of the day, that's what I would like to see them do. Now, I do think they're thinking, can we get somebody interested in coming up here at Stake? Maybe not replicate the Jacksonville bill they did last year, but get some more picks and move back a little bit where maybe you're taking a more, you know, a freeling or maybe the early 11 to 15, somewhere in there they can fall and maybe the value is a little better because freeling at 6, I don't know, but freeling at 12, I think that's the perfect spot. Dallas at 12, the Rams at 13, those are two teams that can be aggressive and that who knows, maybe just maybe you could talk them into moving up. Chris, I'm of the belief that, you know, I think it was the Niners back in 81 where they had Montana and Clark and the offense was developing and Bill Walsh just spent like the first four rounds drafting defense. Their defense was terrible. They needed as many good players as they could find. And it turns out they got three really good ones. But I mean, to me, if I'm the Browns, if I just went with the four best offensive players on the board at the time I was picking at 6, 24, 39 and whatever the next one is, would you criticize me too much? No, I mean, I think today was my 12th. I've done one weekly since like mid-January. I've done a mock draft and I know this in multiple times where I look and I'm seven picks in and I'm like, all I've done is pick offensive players better than it's off at the linemen, wide receivers, you know, I think they still be a little bit of running back depth. So, you know, right in, they need help, you know, within Joku leaving and, you know, really hero-fading out, really being a true, true, Ian in the dirt inline tight end. So, no, I wouldn't, that would not surprise me at all. But Andrew Berry, I mean, last year we thought, well, you just go offense, offense, offense. And he turns around and he goes, Mason Gray and Carson Swethinger with the first two picks down. Granted, I think both those picks were, you know, especially, especially, were outstanding picks. But definitely, I think there has to be a, the onus has to be on the offense. All right. I love the idea that you have of trading with Dallas at 12 because if there's an edge rusher still there, I could see Dallas going up and wanting to get him. The problem is Dallas doesn't have a second round pick. So, would Cleveland make that move for draft capital in 27? You know, I mean, this is still a rebuild. I know people, okay, that, that to me is, if you're trading with the Dallas, you've got to take draft capital down the road, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think that was the big question. I know a couple of weeks ago, I was out in Phoenix for the annual meetings and we sat down with Andrew Berry. And, you know, that was one of the big questions we wondered because everybody's talking about this quarterback class in 27. Of course, we talked about the quarterback class in 26 until we saw the employee in 25. And, you know, we all know how this goes. Our people are going to be a little bit more gun shy to deal high picks, you know, first second round picks in 27 because of, you know, the depth of that potentially could be in that quarterback class. And he didn't think so. He thought they'd still, they'd still be willing to move picks together. They need this year because it's in the moment, but, you know, I absolutely think they'd be more than happy because they do see this as a multi-year rebuild. Even if they're not using the word rebuild, it's a rebuild. I mean, call what it is and they, the more the more picks, the more potential you have to hit on the real transformative players. Chris Easterling covers the Browns. Akron Beacon Journal. Follow him on X, the letter C. Easterling ABJ. C, Easterling ABJ. Is there anything at all going on with Miles Garrett and the Browns? Or is he just a 30-year-old veteran who doesn't want any part of anything before training camp? And, but he's okay being in Cleveland. He doesn't want to be traded. I'm just curious, is there anything going on between the Browns and Miles Garrett? I don't want to say there's nothing going on because we haven't heard from Miles and that day in Cincinnati at the end of the season. Look, I want a couple things. One, it is weird the contract restructuring they did, modification, whatever you want to call it. That really does make it easier to trade him in the summertime, much more cap-friendly. But this is like the third year in a row, Miles Garrett hasn't shown up for off-season program. That's just sort of Miles. And he didn't show up at off-season program last year. Didn't show up for band for a mini-camp. And then on day one, a trading camp went out and immediately looked like one of the three best players on the planet and carried that all the way through. I think there's sort of an understanding in the locker room, even though you want your leader there, especially with a new head coach, new defense coordinator. Excuse me. You want to be in there. But I think there's also an understanding that, look, Miles is going to be ready to go. You know, Miles isn't going to not be ready to play. Everybody trusts Miles to be ready to play. And also, one thing that doesn't get mentioned is, Miles Garrett has a no-trade club. So that complicates things in that you got to vignage a diagram. Teams that would be willing to give the bronze what they rightfully would demand for a player of Miles Garrett's caliber, and teams that Miles Garrett would approve a trade to, how big is that where those two circles intersect? Because that's really the question is, how many teams could really follow that where Miles would wave as no trade? Gotcha. And the bronze could get to first, because that's where it starts. To first, then you go from there. And I just wonder how many teams really follow that category. We got about a minute. If they take tackle with their first pick, who's the receiver that they want to hit on at the end of the first round? Or if this guy's gone, they'll wait and maybe try to get a guy like Bell from Louisville in the second round. To come full circle, you mentioned Indiana football. Early, how about Omar Cooper? I think that's a player that they really like that they've had in for a visit. And I think he sort of fits that player. You can give it 24 who could come in and really help your football team immediately. If it gets by the Jets at 16, I definitely think he's in play. He's Chris Easterling, Akron Beacon Journal, covering the Browns. Chris, thanks for your time and your insight. As always, safe travels with the draft and we'll talk soon. Anything to get proud beyond? Chris Easterling, Akron Beacon Journal talking Browns here on Miller and Malton. Chris and all our guests, join us on the American Page Supplies Hotline, your one-stop shop for all your coding needs. Do you have a favorite wham song, David? That was such a great reference. I hope everybody got it. Oh boy, that's something. I will say the George Michael Faith video with all the models might have been one of the best videos ever made. I'm going to go out on a limb and say top five video of all time. You're listening to Miller and Malton and now here's Mark Miller and David Malton. 21 minutes past the hour. Now you're affecting me. I'm just going to let you know that and I don't mean you the audience. I mean my co-hosts, Miller and Malton, Miller and Malton.com, Miller underscore Malton on X. You know that I don't like to think about the brackets all that intently in the first 24 to 36 hours they come out. You know that I don't want to get mock, draft, heavy 10 days out. But you falling under the spell of the 2026 NFL draft is beginning to impact me because now during commercial breaks, all I'm doing is considering, well, what if the tackle that the Browns really want, the Giants take it five? And then are they going to go tackle at six? There's really no wide receiver. They should take it six. They're going to go play and the running back will probably be gone. So there's really no player. They'll have it six. Will somebody trade up and want somebody that they can trade down and get better value? And now that was my entire commercial break. And then the same thing is they're going to be, if they go linemen early, will there be a receiver that they really like that falls to them at 24? Or were all those receivers, are they going to go between 13 and 23? And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let me see if I can help you out, David. I made a mistake going to break and I apologize. The song with the video is not faith. It's freedom. So let's clarify that right from the get go. Okay. Maybe you can start singing Carolus Whisper again. We've got Mark Lai coming up in 15 minutes time. So there's plenty for you to sink your teeth around. But I think those are all really relevant questions. And David, let me just add one more. If there's an edge guy there that the chiefs want, are they the team? You know, we mentioned the Cowboys in the interview, but with the chiefs, with the two first-round picks, move up to where the Browns are, because the Browns could slide to nine and maybe get the George Alignment there. How about that? Exactly. By the way, just for the record, the music that's in my head right now is the ESPN draft selection music. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Okay, whatever that little jingle that they play, that three to five second, that's what's in my head. Every time I think about a player in a pick, I literally have the ESPN draft jingle in my head before I decide who I'm going to take. This is a problem. And I think I could be over-reading my co-host here. But after doing my draft homework for the first time, David first off was disgusted with me when I brought it up. And then when we started our interview with Prisist Easterly, and I mentioned Tackler, wide receiver, I think David believes loves the candidate there because he shook his head and know with me. He was pissed off with my analysis of the Cleveland draft right from the get-go, and that made me happy. No, I was just shaking my head going, listen to how detailed this first question is. We don't normally, you've got, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, but then this guy goes, ba, ba, ba, and then we'll have to transition and go this route, ba, ba, ba, ba. I'm like, my goodness, the first draft is just so fast. You are swimming in it. You are swimming in the big pond, and it just says 2026 NFL draft. We got to get you home. We got to get you in that pool. We got to get you on a raft. Okay, we got to get a, I know it won't be an alcoholic drink, but we need to put something in your hand that is the color drink that you're used to and a stupid umbrella in it, or either that or whatever it is you put in with your hard liquor, whatever, a lime, a lemon, okay, I don't know, a cement mixer, whatever, just, oh my goodness. You are fired up for this draft, which I, and what's really amazing to me is that I think this draft will be phenomenal the more of a goober you are. I think this is a total goober draft. Think about it. One running back likely in the first round, one quarterback likely in the first round, one tight end likely in the first round. Okay, this is a- One receiver in the top, probably, you know, 12 to 15 picks. Right. I mean, the other receivers, you know, your group have received, well, lemon could go a little, it could go in the top 12, but beyond that, you've got a group of guys that are expected to go, you know, between 18 and 32, right? Right. I mean, is that safe to say? Yeah, I think the Rams are a candidate at 13. I don't know if one goes before that, but yes. But I mean, this is a total goober draft. This is a Daniel Jeremiah draft. I mean, New Orleans could take a receiver, but, you know, I mean, just saying. I'm happy. You know what happened? You know why? You haven't really thought about it, but there's a reason why all of this happened. Well, you know when this happened? David, this happened Saturday night around eight o'clock. Saturday night at eight o'clock. The master's coverage is over. Oh, I know what happened. See, see, you just hadn't put one and one together. Oh, that's a good one. I mean, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, Captain Dylan Larkin is covering for a defenseman, David. The leader, the captain that everybody loves is covering for Edvinson who pinched him on a play and Larkin goes to try to pinch in and play a puck two on one the other way. All of a sudden they blow the lead again and Dylan Larkin is to blame for the fourth goal. It's his fault. He admitted so, the coach threw him under the bus. That's what happened, David. Even my son who planned this trip to take care of me. My son's here as my caregiver. We've had a wonderful time. He's going back home today. Or he's going back to Southwest Florida today, flying back to North Carolina tomorrow. The plan was and why he stayed through today is that the Lightning are hosting the Red Wings tonight. He was expecting to go to the game. We were ready to buy tickets. We had some people reach out who were going to help us get tickets. Once they were eliminated from the playoffs, he's picking his sister up from school today. That's what he's doing. Gotcha. The dead wings are back. The torch has been passed. Buffalo ended the torch to Detroit. The longest route in the sport, take Hockey Town off center ice, fire everybody they don't deserve to have Hockey Town associated with that team. Not at all. If they put it on the ice next year, I won't watch a game. It's a joke. They're a joke. Iserman's a joke. You can leave his number up in the Raptors, but get them that help. You know what they're going to do, David? They're going to promote him. They're going to promote him to team president and put Chris Draper as the GM. Like anything's going to change. They're the same two guys. Unbelievable. It's an absolute and utter joke. Go Lightning. Let's go Bolts. Let's get these playoffs started. I'd like to apologize to everyone. I didn't fully understand the emotional toll that Steve Iserman and the Detroit dead wings have taken on Mark. I should have realized it 10, 11 weeks in isolation. And when he started, the wings were in the playoffs by over 10 points. And I should have realized it. I'd like to apologize to everyone. Okay, I should have been more understanding earlier in this 10, 11 week process. Cause yes, this has been coming. And usually it was just stayed between texts. Okay, but now obviously it burst, it exploded. It's out in the open and there's no bringing it back. So I don't know. Does Caden McDonald jump back into the first round when someone take a chance on a kid like Banks from Florida? And there's a lot of different, what receiver is there that you're gonna take a chance on if you're Kansas city with it? Would you take Bel Lake in the first round? He's a first round talent, David, but he got hurt. So can we just get back to talking about the draft? Okay. I understand. You wanna talk about first sale and it starts, I mean, the Marlins just got swept, but the Reyes swept the Damienkis. They don't ever do that. What a weekend for the Reyes. Right. Yeah, now you're getting with the program. There you go. Okay. Seeing the glasses half full. There are stories out there. I would take both Florida linemen by the way, late first round. I like them more than, apparently they're both projected mid-second round. I like them. I think they're both gonna be good players. And you know me, I don't care when you draft them. Honestly. Well, you draft them too soon. What are you talking about? He played eight years for me in the league. Give me a break. We'll look back on the Masters. Mark Lye, next, Miller and Moulton. You're listening to Miller and Moulton. And now here's Mark Miller and David Moulton. 22 minutes till the bonus hour of Miller and Moulton, Miller and Moulton.com, Miller underscore Moulton on X. Mark Lye joined us at the beginning of the Masters, joins us now to review the new season joins us now to wrap it up. All right. Former player, long time broadcaster. How you doing? Did you enjoy the Masters? Yeah, I pretty much enjoyed it. I'm gonna be honest with you. I used to be a Rory fan, but I'm not so much anymore. And I was disappointed at the finish, but it was still a great event. I think some guys really had some shots at it, namely Justin Rose. I mean, he's got to be just, he's got to feel awful. And you know, it's Rory kind of made it into a dog fight out there. I mean, at one point he's a couple back and then he makes a couple of quick birdies. And then he did what he needed to do on the back nine, which is just win by one. So good job, Rory credit where credit is due. But I know a lot of guys had some shots. Cameron Young, even Scotty, you know, but hey, it was a great event, judging by the finish. And I'm glad it wasn't a blow out like we thought it was gonna be on Friday. Aren't you guys happy that it was contested on the weekend? No, absolutely. And Mark, I thought Saturday was amazing. You know, I mean, because Rory didn't play great and guys are making shots and they're making birdies and they're getting back in it. But I started going through what guys shot on the back nine yesterday. And I think of the, I'll take Hatten and Mark Hawa out because they were so far back that it was almost impossible for them to win. But if the guys that were in contention, I think Shephler was one of the only ones that was under par on the back nine. And I'll ask you, David and I have been kind of going back and forth all morning on this. Was the course playing too hard, which is what he's contesting and he very well may be right. And I'm not saying it's Tigress, but for whatever reason, once Rory to me made the birdie on 12, guys puckered a little bit out there. And I was surprised by that. So was the course playing maybe a little bit too hard or did guys just succumb to the nerves of the back nine at Augusta? Because we just didn't see the birdies like we normally see. I honestly, you have to be there playing it to really understand it is an intimidating place knowing that one little slip up and you could be out of it. I mean, I can tell you how in the past, the 12th hole, the 11th hole, even the 13th hole, the 15th hole, there are just X's waiting for you. Okay? Even the 15th hole that seems kind of an innocuous par five if you just look at it on the scorecard. But when you play that hole, like Scotty Shephler, I mean, he hit great shots every day into that green. Okay? On a second shot, he didn't even sniff the putting surface. This is a guy that's one of the best iron players ever. And then you start getting in Sunday nerves and the course, even though it was at the edge, it didn't violate. You know, it wasn't crazy. Like we've seen some courses get away from them because they get them too hard and too fast. I felt like it was playable. I mean, it's just basically a back nine on Sunday at Augusta National. I can just tell you when I was in the hunt, that hole just shriveled up on me. I mean, it just, you know, the front nine is one thing, but you get to the back nine and the gravity of the whole situation guys, you don't think Greg Norman puckered up. You don't think Jack puckered up a little bit. Tiger, you know, I mean, tigers, he's blown it a couple of times. The King, Earl Palmer, he blew it a couple of times, but you know, we're talking about back in the 60s, another century, but still it's just the nature of this place that kind of does it to you. I have to admit though, I was a little surprised when Justin Rose was 12 under in the middle of the 11th fairway that he didn't finish at least 12 under and that he acknowledged, and I am so appreciative of his honesty in which he said, man, I was really rolling and for whatever reason, I lost my commitment on the second shot on 11 and it was the perfect yardage. And he said, and then it affected me. And I mean, that's 45 year old major champion, Ryder Cup hero. He's got the best or second best record all time at that course, having never won their Rose. And he faltered in that spot. I think it goes back to what you were talking about, that it's really difficult for us to comprehend. Here's the thing about golf, and this is why other athletes really like playing the game, you know, of great athletes from other sports, you know, baseball players, football players, basketball players with Steph Curry and some of these guys. The difference between a good shot and a bad shot is a thought. You can throw technique out. I mean, you can be the best damn ball striker in the world and just have a miscellaneous thought come in there and just kind of like stick, and that's what happens. And if it didn't happen to Justin on 11, it could have happened, you know, it probably happened on 12. And you never know, look at what Seve did in the year that he had a green light on the 15th hole. I mean, he hadn't fatted a shot like that into a par five since he was 15 years old. And that place, and that was even after Seve had won a couple. So, you know, the place just has it. Once you drive up Magnolia Lane, it's like, okay, everything I learned in the past, it don't matter anymore. This is a completely different golf course, a completely different mental state that you have to get in because the first time, David Mark, that I played that, I played it a week before. And I basically said, this is the hardest place on the planet, okay? And it just, you have to adjust. You have to adjust. Look, Rory, for all the great shots he hit and all the poor shots that he hit, let me tell you, the one that won it for him was the chip shot on 17, a very innocuous little shot. But he was 10 feet below the surface of the green. And he chipped that sucker up like it was nothing. I mean, could you have even gotten the club on the ball? He's got a two shot lead. We've heard of all kinds of players in the past, like Kenny Perry had a two shot lead with two holes ago, Bogey 17 and 18, it's- Tiger, Tiger! It was two, it went Bogey, Bogey and 05. There you go. So I was thinking, okay, you know, he missed the green on 17, you know, he owns 18, Rory does, but 17, not so much. But he chipped that sucker up stone dead. And I said, well, then he wants to win this sucker because that was the one. It's the little shots that make the difference. I remember when Ola Thaubel wanted the second time, he hooked the crap out of it on 17 and he hit this little slithering little shot out from under the pine straw. It crept up on the front edge. He was able to make par and win the golf tournament on 17. So, you know, there's history here and all these guys that have played, that are played yesterday, they know the history. So, you know, are they gonna be part of history that people remember or part that they forget? And I'm sure Kenny Perry hasn't forgotten what he did that year. And I think he ended up losing in a playoff to Cabrera. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, you're thinking of history. You win the Masters, it's history. And same with all the other majors. But I think he's even more so at Augusta National and you just asked Greg Norman. I mean, he had that thing in his pocket four, five, six times and couldn't get it done. So, guys, another, I'm sad. I mean, this is basically a recovery week. Now what do we do? No off field, Ned? I'm with you, I'm with you 100% there. You know, Mark, we've been a little critical. David and I have the coverage. And I guess I was thinking of what you said to us last week and they never said it throughout the week, but particularly Saturday or Sunday. You talked about the third shot on 15 and how difficult that shot is because you have a downhill lie. And you know, David and I both play golf. David doesn't anymore, I still play. I'm an average golfer at best. I know how difficult just a downhill lie is anywhere. I'm not hitting into that tiny little green. And we watched player after player and I wish Trevor Emelman would have brought it up, but I was thinking about what you talked to us about last week, just how tough that shot is and the trouble those guys had executing that shot. And I didn't blame one guy, because Mark probably just got done telling us how hard this is. And I was thinking of our conversation throughout the weekend watching guys trying to make birdie from the fairway on 15. Can't do it. I mean, it's a one in 10 shot. If you get 10 shots at it, you may get it within five feet or four feet. But I hate to see the other shots. I mean, we've seen Tiger dumping in there. We've seen Vijay Singh dumping in there. I've seen some great, like, Bernhard Langer dumping in there. I mean, everybody who's anybody in golf has dumped that ball in there or knocked it over the green and had an impossible chip. So yeah, and then, you know, we watched Freddie Couples in round one. The guy's two under par with four holes to go. He's got to be saying, oh my gosh, I can't believe it. You know, 66 years old, you know, and all of a sudden Bingo, he shoots 78. So Mark, Mark, we were 18 inches away from Rory dumping. That's the thing about this shot. It was 103 to the pin for Rory. He barely hit that wedge 90 yards. I mean, those guys never, never miss a wedge by 15 yards. He barely hit that 90 yards. Exactly. And what did, so that's when you're thinking the leak, leak a little oil. Remember last year, what he did, he couldn't hit the green from on 13. Right. Oh, I know. He got a little flip wedge in there. He puts it in freaking raised creek. From 60 yards. So, look, this course, this title, it makes you do things that are out of body. You know, you can hit that shot a thousand times and all of a sudden that little thing creeps into your brain. Ooh, what about that? And if you're thinking that the wrong time, maybe that's why he backed off a lot of shots. That's, you know, because sometimes those little nasty thoughts get in there and you say, okay, I got a reframe on this thing. So on 15, I guarantee you, you know, if you're walking up there and you're thinking that you've got it made because you laid it up in a perfect yardage to 15, maybe 80 and 90 yards is your perfect, you know, number. Forget it. You still have to hit the shot and that makes it just that much tougher when you've got a downhill lie to an uphill thin blade of a target. So historically for Rory, you know, this gets him to six. Now you're in the Phil Faldor Trevino category, two time masters champion, you know, a lot of guys have won at once. Once you start having multiple green jackets, only the fourth to repeat. I mean, are we, you know, there's an argument as to whether Phil's top 10 all time. I'm a Phil guy, but I think he's top 15. Rory's trying really hard to be top 10 all time here, isn't he? Yeah, I mean, it's just a matter of time for him now. I mean, he got over the hurdle. I mean, what was it, 10 years in between majors for him? And now that he's in his, you know, approaching mid 30s, I don't know how exactly how old he is. He's got a lot of gray hair for being 35 if he is that old. But that's what this game will do to you or you'll lose it. But yeah, I think it's, you know, it all depends on Rory. You know, if he just wanna sit back and relax, probably not. He could have done that already, but. I gotta give him credit. He took this golf tournament. I guess, I guess Justin Rosen wanted, I guess, or maybe wanted it too much. And Cameron Young, I thought he was the guy, but you know, the end of the front nine just killed him yesterday. And that's the thing, you know, even the easy holes are not easy. Is that a yogiism or what? Easy holes aren't even easy. That's a gust of nationally. You can make X on every damn one of them, but still it was a good masters, you know, wasn't a runaway. And I'm thankful that, you know, the tradition holds. And they did a good job with it. I think the gust of national, they made the course very difficult, but fair. Because, you know, when guys are shooting 67, 68, you can't say, oh, it was unfair, you know? So Saturday and Sunday, it gave up some birdies. And they could have made it unplayable on the weekend, which I've seen him do before. So kudos to those guys. Rory, by the way, turns 37 in three weeks. There we go. Wow. Yeah, I know. You're a damn good guy. Still a lot of gray hair. I'm with you, Mark. Got to pick on the guy somewhere, okay? Cause it seems to have everything going his way right now. Hey Mark, thanks for doing this. All the best to you and the family. Let's talk around the PGA. You got it guys. Have a great week. Mark Lye. Thank you. Long time golfer, analyst, friend of the show, thrilled to have him as part of Miller and Malton. Joining us on the American Paint Supplies Hotline, you're one stop shop for all your coding needs. So the PGA is at a course that has opposed it a major since 1962. They've had a FedEx tournament there, I think, you know, eight years ago or so, a playoff tournament, but it's not the Gary player won the PGA there in 1962. Wow. That's a pretty big gap in today's world for a major to go back to a course. Is this that Texas course? No, this is in Pennsylvania, a Aronomic. Oh, gotcha.