Why You’re WRONG About the 911 GT3 S/C with Andy Preuninger

Welcome. Here we are. Andy Pruniger. This is a big show for us. Why? Why? Let me explain why, Andy. We're portion nuts here mostly. Hopefully. Right. And we have, look, we've had a lot of celebrities on our stage. We have a lot of Christian Bale, Matt Damon, you know, some big names. Yeah. But for us, no one's bigger than Andreas Pruniger. Thank you. The guy who creates our favorite cars in the world, the guy who knows many secrets, which he will spill today, certainly. They sent him with a handler, Cameron. Did you notice they brought the Porsche handler? I didn't see that. Because he knows so much about the future of Porsche, but they got to make sure we don't get in trouble. Actually, I don't need him because I know quite well so what I can tell you and what I rather shouldn't. I don't be as frank and open as always as I can, because I'm allowed to because if they fire me so. Oh, they're not firing you. That's never going to happen. Like I said, you say that you've been on the show. What, once or twice before? Once. I think it was once with French Stefan Walliser. It was maybe three or four years ago. Maybe five. You said the same thing. I might say you may ask me a question. I may say something to get fired. I said, Andy, they can never fire you. You've got so many hits. Never, never say never, but I'm just kidding. You're like Billy Joel. Billy Joel. He's an old man. You're like Sabrina Carpenter. I'm just trying to cover all the different generations. Anyway, thank you for stopping by here. You're in town for Aaron Water. Yeah. For Aaron Water and for Spikes Car Radio. And Spikes Car Radio. What, but let's talk about Aaron Water. Why did you fly in for that? I mean, it's one of the biggest one-man gatherings that we have in the world. Our customers and I mean, our customer base in the States is huge in California. It's even bigger. So this is the epicenter of Porsche fandom here. And it's done by Patrick Long, who's very well acquainted to us and to me personally and Jeff Swart. People I like, people I appreciate. And when they're doing a show, trying to be brand to be on site and talk to the customers, talk to the fans and be a fellow enthusiast for this couple of hours and enjoy the cars, enjoy the California sun and the vibe. And that's why I'm here. Do you feel famous when you walk around there? Do people recognize you? Yeah, the people recognize me. And but I don't, I'm not a person. I'm not a person that likes to stand in the middle of being the center of attention. Actually, that's not what I, what, what, what I feel comfortable with, but it came with the job because obviously I'm doing this for such a long time. I think this is unparalleled in the industry that they let somebody do the same thing for more than two decades. Right. And most of the cars, I would say, and maybe all of them have become a great success and created a kind of a religion. And I seem to be the pope of this religion in a way, but I enjoy really, I'm a very approachable person. So I enjoy really to talk to the guys and sometimes it's fun to be a little bit famous. What do we call this religion, the pope of this religion? What are we calling it? The religion. So, I mean, the GT religion, the GT. GTism, I don't know. What is it? GTism. Well, let's talk about GTism. Let's talk about some of these cars. There was a car just announced the other day. Let's start there. 2027, you're going to be making a GT3 SC. Right. And I'll be honest with you, I was a little confused by it. Everybody was. I was expecting a Speedster and then comes along Cabriolet. Here it is right up here up on the monitor there. Yeah. Tell us, tell us what we need to know. Give us a point of view perspective on this. What am I missing? I don't know what you know. That's why I don't know what you're missing. But the point in this car is definitely, let's put it like that. It's an everyday Speedster. As I put in my last Instagram post, it's a Speedolet or a cabster. So, it's not a convertible only a Cabriolet because it's a true and proper GT car. It's the open version of what we have sitting here, the GT3 touring. And it came natural in a way because it was really a skunk work thing. Like most of the products start their life as a skunk works thing that we are maybe think of ourselves and as a prototype. Trying to get together in our workshop. Sometimes after hours, even GT2 RS was an example as well. And we had these two cars, this convertible from our dear colleagues from the standard development for Carrera. And we had a car that would go to the scrappers as well, the GT3. And we just said, okay, let's build a GT3 Cabriolet and see how it feels, see what it does to us. It's maybe diluting the GT3 idea a little bit because a Cabriolet with a fully automated roof. It's not exactly the purism that we normally strive for. But at the other hand, we had so many customers having a Spider RS or a Speedster that always complained about the fumbling around at the top. And they wanted to like close it and open it more easily. Especially in Europe because even in summertime, you have rain showers and there's a necessity even in summertime to close the car from now on then. And sometimes you don't use it because you don't want to stop every time in a lay by and doing all this manually. So we thought, okay, let's try to incorporate a fully automated roof, a Cabriolet roof on a GT3 that is hardcore as it can be in all of the rest of the components, lightweight, manual and manual still matter. And that the outcome is the 911 SC and it's called SC because we called it internally the Sport Cabriolet. And SC reminds on the ST as well. It's not an open ST, but it's not an open touring. It's a mixture of both and it's a very hardcore car. It's super, super fun to drive. So rewarding, so emotional because this element of driving open is for me added value because it's just different to be in an open car and to feel this GT, sound this GT vibe in an open car despite of having the chance to close it by just a button. No, I thought I was very much surprised by it and there was no consideration to doing another speedster. You just thought it wasn't time to be honest and to be fair. We have to look at time to market as well because we have this uncomfortable situation in Europe where there's a new emission laws coming in big steps in the 27. And if we would have done a speed, so it would have cost us a lot more time at least one year more. Really? Yeah, absolutely. All the new body parts, the tooling you need for that and the homologation of the of the of a complete new model with a drive train. It's already existing. This is most of it is bureaucracy stuff, but it takes a lot of time and time to market would have been delayed by at least a year that would have given us a time frame or time window to produce and sell the car in Europe for maybe a year. And that would be the problem again that everybody would be yelling at us. There's not enough cars. So we had to make our minds up and find a solution that we have a longer, longer production run and and this capriole idea came in handy. And so we tried it and that was that was the situation how this car came about. And I'm a capriole game guy myself to be honest and I like to drive open. Yeah, 993 convertible at home, which I use as a reset button for to to enjoy classic cars as well and get new ideas. And so it's always good to be able to open the top, maybe more in Europe. We as over here with the sun speeding down and you we don't have that. No, I mean, you know, you know, I have a 718 spider RS in a ratio green and I was in it this weekend in the sun on a beautiful day and then it got really hot. Yeah. And I went all right. I normally would put the top up at this point, but you got too lazy or the traffic didn't allow to turn. I look don't get me wrong. I love the analog top in the 718 and by the way, one of my favorite cars that you've designed ever. I mean, there's some other ones. So it's in my top three list as well. It is. What is it about this car that you made and I told you before the show, we bought this thing and I thought, well, we'll keep it for a couple months and get rid of it. I still have it. I am in love with it. I'm driving it more than anything. I drove it. I'm driving it more than the ST when I drove the ST and had the ST. What is that? What am I? What's so great about this greatness that you've created? I think I think it's the the side of the car. It's the mid engine layout. It's the motorsport engine in this package. Yep. It's the sound. It's the intake system directly behind your ears. And maybe it's a little bit of PDK as well because it's just a great daily driver because when you're in traffic here and I'm here for one day, but I think as at least four hours in traffic here in Los Angeles and driving this touring this manual, I can see the point where people want PDK around here. So it's another car for the city. And and the the the Spyder RS is just a car that you like from the vibes. It it it it oozes and yeah, and and it makes a big impression on your emotional system. It does. You're exactly right. Like I said, I'm in the market for one too to be honest. You don't have one. No. No, I'm my my garage is not as big as yours. You know what's you know, it's nice. Just qualify. It's I've always loved the Boxster and I get the it was very first new car that I bought was a Boxster and it has elements of that in it and then it has elements of a GT car in it and you are able to drive two different cars with different people in the passenger seat and and it's really a nice like you say it's a it's a car you can drive all the time in lots of different right onto the racetrack and then right up to Malibu with your wife who doesn't want anything loud. This is why sometimes complain about the noise because that's the only point I would say I mean in a in a Spyder RS after the two hours it's yeah, it's it's an intense yeah, rewarding driving experience, but it's loud at times. So there's nothing wrong with it just to commute back and forth for some people. It's a little bit extreme, but we love we like extremes. Well, I'm excited about this guy and our friends at Porsche Clearwater offered us an allocation. Well, here, let me ask you about that. Now, I know production isn't limited, but realistically, how many of these things do we see them making? I mean, we have one product production line in Sufenhausen so we have to share it with all the other right sought after models as well. So and we make our estimates with the markets that sell that that the car will be introduced in and we got a rough estimate of how many cars our market think they could sell or they want to sell. Sometimes they're wrong and everybody beats on me again, but it will be definitely more than what we had on the ST with 1900. It was it will be at least double that or even even even more, but we can't do 10 thousands of that right. So the time is simply the time span in two years that we can sell it is just too short and we can't make like 50 of these a day. But you're making an effort like unlike the ST to get one to focus who didn't get these other cars, which is nice and it has elements of the ST in it and design elements. So it has got a sound and it's got a manual gearbox and you'll have a nice experience. Absolutely. So I'm going to get one here's a so I've built 10 of these so far and with no luck. Zuckerman and I are going to share one. But then the other day you posted this one on Instagram right here. Yeah, that was yesterday night and holy shit. It'd be like a lighting bolt to look her in silver. Is this your car? Just one of the best. This is one of the cars one of the pre series cars that used to be black and this special car is the car that Chris Harris used for his video for his video. He drifted that thing. I saw it already the proving grounds in Weissach and we just took the took the took the camouflage off on the 14th of April and polished the car and this is a former development car. It has 15,000 kilometers something like that and I used it last weekend when I when I make this pictures and it's in front of a house of a friend and I said hey it looks so cool here after just make some photos and it's a very classy color combination. I love silver wheels. I hate dark wheels because the wheels are so important. It's like shoes on a person. Yeah, yeah, right in the way in a black color. So this is definitely when I get my new GT3 touring. Don't look at the wheels. Okay. Do you look like first and left a comment there. He says what silver is this? I didn't even look back here. If you go down did Andy reply? Yeah, sure. Is it if Spike asks something? How can I know there it is? So that's GT silver. Yeah, I think just GT silver. It's not PTSD. Nothing special. It's GT silver. Should we do everybody cannot do our car like this. I love it. I mean, it's really cool. Look at that thing. It's classic. It's a sporty. It's not obtrusive. It looks very nice. I mean, all of the guys and the ladies whoever they're all speccing cars at home. You get to just go to him. Should I do this? He goes, yes. And it's done. Like York, that story you just told at Chris Harris, which is the first video I watched and then and to this color, the way it hit me, it's done. I have no equivocation. That's what I'm going to order. Yeah, do that. It's fantastic. It's lovely. It is. It is. And it stands out and it's not obtrusive. It's down to earth. It's still a race. That's the way I want GT cars to look. I like the red as well. But the more I look at the silver, I think I would opt for the silver as well. OK, before we look at your GT3, let's talk about McGuire's with 125 years of experience in surface care. Leadership McGuire's remains deeply rooted in car culture, authentically pushing performance boundaries of detailing products to support all needs from the experienced pro to the curious novice like myself. 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It has dark silver wheels, so it's silver at least. Can I tell you that's what I ordered on my car? I did yachting blue metallic with these wheels. I can accept that. It's good. It depends on the color. And with yellow and dark silver, it looks beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. But it needs a little, every car in my book needs a little of a contrast of dark and bright. Oh, OK. And if it's all too dark, it looks like a black car with black wheels. Right. I hate it because, I mean, maybe because all our development cars are camouflaged in black and have to have black wheels because on a black wheel, you don't recognize the shape. And you can't camouflage a wheel with some plastic parts because. Have you ever thought about putting out a camo livery? So it comes like the test car. There are people that would buy that. Camo livery. We only use the black, the flat black. It's not very attractive. But when I see these pictures on the internet, right? You guys know, you don't care this stuff's being leaked, do you? I mean, there's always leaks because we have to test the cars under normal road conditions. So we have our workshops at the Nürburgring and you wouldn't believe how many paparazzi are lying in the bushes around the Nürburgring and you can't put the nose of a car out of the workshop and then you're clicking everywhere. Do you care? Do you get upset? You say, don't take a picture. Is it just part of? We think very hard of how to camouflage the cars and the uglier they are, the better. But when you're approaching like the last pre-series, then you have to really have the car for testing in the original shape without any plastic parts that have aerodynamic effect as a matter of fact and cooling effect. And so you have to get rid of those. And that's the point when the car is all just in a flat black, what do you call it? Wrap. Yeah. So you can really see exactly what the later product will look like, but it's mostly only a couple weeks before start of production anyway. And this is part of the tension that we want to keep up a little. Yeah. No, I get excited when I see that stuff. It makes me absolutely crazy. All right. Just tell us two or three things that we don't know about this car that you haven't said already. You told us about the color. I mean, the color, the color we talked about and I think this car needs bright wheels and it needs the window trim and chrome and the exhaust and chrome because this is a typical touring thing that we came up with in the 991 second gen. When we first brought the touring out, Frank Welles and me, we always thought we have to have this classic contrast, but you cannot, as you see here for the black ones as well. It's really attractive. And it's a very attractive car. And if you look at the take rates of the touring, I mean, the touring used to be only an option on the wing car. When we started with it nowadays, we have about 50% or in the States, I think it's even more of a take rate of the touring in comparison to the wing car. And most of these cars, and that's the next joker, have manual transmissions. Oh, they do? Manuals really matter to our customers and especially the touring has an 80% share of manual transmissions. And it's 50% of the GT3 and GT3 wing car. So the touring is a very, very good example of how the customer changed in the last 10 years because now it's not only a track car for track aficionados, it's a driver's car for people that use the car more on a daily basis or as enthusiast car to drive on the weekends. So you want a driver's car and they don't care about the last tenth of a split second on some track. And this is what the touring is about. It's race technology, but it's wolf in a shape skin, I would say. And this is what people like, I think. It's a true classic 911. And what the virtue said it needs. What seats do you prefer? Absolutely the buckets. I'm a complete bucket person. They are a little bit harder to get in and out, true. But once you sit and this is what counts, it is definitely for me, for my body size and for most people I know in our team, the better proposition, definitely. Because and it's lighter. Lightness is always add some lightness called enchantment of Lotus set some decades ago and he was right. You have to look really for the for the for the kilos and grams. But it's in the in the in the strongest point is really the the information a bucket seat transfers over your body. You have more feeling for the car. I talked to Frank who's sitting here who gave me the car yesterday. More or my cars have bucket seats and the difference if you drive the same car with bucket seats and with normal seats is substantial. From the fun point from the information the car gives you. So GT three for me is clearly a bucket car. There you go. Yeah. What other options? You know, I'm just thinking about all the questions I feel from friends of mine who are buying these cars. Just give me a couple other options when you're specking out this car or one of the GT cars that you can't live without. One for me in LA is lift lift. You got to have lift. Absolutely. Lift is only a couple of kilos and you have to have it because of steep speed bumps and yeah and this ditches that you have that you have mostly on on on on every second gas station. What else do you put in for me when I'm specking the cars and I don't have to pay them because they are completely cars. Then I always go with PCCB. It's the first thing I make my option. I might take my box is is the seat and then the break. Right. So with the buckets and PCCB on a GT car, you're absolutely you're done. Right. Maybe you need this button that you can open your garage with this home home. What's it called home guide button or whatever. This is important. I like to have good stereo in the car on a GT3 SC for example. The Bose is standard. So you don't have to opt for it anymore. And because I like to listen to music when I'm listening to good rock music and driving a GT3 is it's absolutely the same thing and that one can't live without the other. Most of these suggestions are so simple. You know, they tend to overthink it. They really tend to overthink it when they're speccing. Not everything you can tick in an option list. Yeah, good for the car because in it and on the GT cars, we always trying to set up the car perfectly without any boxes ticked. I mean, the seats. Okay. Yep. We could make them standard, but a lot of people prefer the normal sports seat because of their body width or whatever. My co-host is like that. But I think most people that opt for the normal seat, they don't have they didn't do have any experience with the bucket seat. Right. You should try them out first before you go the other route. Definitely. But yeah, like I said, it's both stereo. It's the bucket seat and PCCB and all this leather stuff, leather vents and it's nothing for me. I don't. It deludes the GT3 idea. It has to be pure. It has to be pure point. There you go. Okay. Um, Porsche patented something the other day. I'm sure you can't talk about, but it's a set of stripes that I guess will disappear. Racing stripes that appear and disappear. Look at the story right here. Porsche files a pattern string of unusual patents filed by Porsche hidden or disappearing racing stripes may be the oddest spike to be perfectly honest with you. I never saw that. I'm seeing this for the first time now. Let's go. What? Apparently, why would you hide racing stripes? I don't know. The application is similar to variable light control featured offered on Porsche panoramic sunroof. So, you know, we sit on the McLaren too. You can have a clear glassy presser button. Yeah, we have this on the on the on the Taycan as well. Yeah. And this is a stripe that will appear and disappear. Actually would work for when I share a car with Zuckerman because he doesn't like stripes and I do. So he could just turn them off or turn them on. But this is the first year hearing of it. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I mean, maybe I'm to blame. I'm not too, too much. So don't spend too much time on social media and checking all this in my spare time. But I mean, I was thinking about if it would be nice to have an option where you could change the color of the car by pushing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there are folks. Maybe in the future that will that will be possible. That would be nice. And why not have something like this? If you see the little eye flare he gave when he said that is it maybe maybe in the future. Yeah. Well, but it's not on the development, not in my department. So but I would I would be interested in something like that. No comment. Look pain to sample discussions. That's a good one. I like that. Why not? Yeah. I mean, it's a color is a mood thing. You're not in the same mood every day. Right. And can you just it prevents you from buying three cars. You can have one and you can just change the color. I think it's amazing idea. Yeah. What amazing idea? What is flip flop colors? You know, flip flop colors with a flip flop color is that they're already existing. They're mostly a 4k compound and they change their appearance by the angle of the light. Oh, yeah. So you have a blue that turns into a dark dark. It's not pink. What's it called Lila? Lila like purple purple and they're getting better and better in doing stuff like that. But it's all in the same range of color. Right. Right. They change a little bit, but it's interesting. Yeah. It is very great. It would be something that you can turn from black to white, but I don't know if that's technically possible. When we read a story like this about a patent being filed because there are lots of these stories now because of the internet every week. Somebody's filing a patent for this or that. How does that work exactly? Is that coming from your design team or is that a separate department? Like let's say you did come up with this idea and it is a new idea. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's filed. You're kind of doing a press release in a way. We did it before. Some most of the patents there's an engineer and there are so many patents coming along every day. So there's a department that takes care about all the bureaucracy stuff to go to the different offices and apply for it and do the paperwork. So the engineer only has the idea and passes this idea to get checked if it's worth making a patent. And the first thing is we're making a big check if something similar is developed already or if not, and if not, we can do it. If you think we have a certain advantage of being the only ones having it, we can protect it with a patent. Well, you weren't the only ones, Portia, who supposedly filed a patent this week. The Chinese car maker has now patented a voice control in vehicle toilet. Did you see this? This was BBC. A little... Inveigled toilet. Oh my God. But well, okay, if people, if there's a market for it, why not doing it? I mean, the Chinese market is a lot different to the European one. Apparently. And having a toilet in a car, I mean, you have toilet in airplanes as well. So why not? But I don't think that will be an option in the cheat sheet part of the movie. You know, Matthew McConaughey, the actor. Yes, sure. When I first moved to LA, famously, he had this van like a burnout weed smoker van and he had a hole in the floor with a hose and a funnel connected to it. And that was his portable bathroom. But no, this apparently is real. I see always the signs in California roads don't litter. Littering fine or whatever. But, you know, in the 1950s, there was a special version of the Rolls Royce Silver Wraith that included a built-in television set and a toilet beneath the passenger seat. Okay. Can you believe that? Rolls Royce was it was the first to this. But I don't know. Maybe it sounds like an RV idea, right? Maybe Emily needed to go to the Lou quite often. It sounds like RV or like boats. But it just made me laugh. Just weird, weird stuff. Weird patterns coming out. Yeah. I'm going to go through these questions here and then I've got questions from our fans on Patreon. But what are you driving? What are your personal favorite cars these days? Well, that changes every day. So I don't have a big garage of privately owned cars. I have a 993 convertible, a black one for historical reasons because it was the first lease car. I expect myself when I came to the company in 1997 and I always liked the 993s. I used to have a 964 Carrera Capriolet back then before I came to Porsche because I was selling cars. I imported them from California with friends to Germany, mostly Fiat Spiders and stuff because they weren't available anymore because they were rusted through in Europe. And the California cars were still good. So we made a little money with that and I bought my first Porsche with that and it was a 964. And the next one was the company car. It was a 993 convertible and I still have it. I have it for 20 years now. I'm the second owner. It's only got 50,000 miles on it and I love it to bits. Yeah. And it belongs to the family. My son said to me a couple of days ago that we can never sell that because I was thinking about selling it to get a Spider. Yeah. Not about that. But he said no. My family decided not to give away the 993. That's great. You raised that kid right. Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. He got his first car, he's 18. He has a Golf 7R. Oh, he does. Yeah, with two door with a manual transmission. That was what he wanted. That's for real. And it's a great car. I love it. Love to drive it. How old do you when you get your driver's license where you are? I was 18. You have to be 18. Yeah. You have to be 18 in Germany and pay about $4,000 for the driver's license. No. That's a complete different story than here. Wow. Not everybody can afford making the driver's license. It's a lot of money. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of money. I have, I mean, I just took my 16 year old last week to get his driver's license. See? I was panicked. I hadn't, my wife did the first test for the first one, but the second one, I was there for it. And the guy in front of us, the kid in front of us got eliminated. His brake lights didn't work. He had some screwed up brake light across the top and it didn't, and they go, you should just tell them, get out of there. And, but he passed. He did well. Great. He got six mistakes. Now I can give him the keys to the Bentley. No, no, I'm, we, we, we get Subaru's for these kids. I like safe cars. They're, yeah, Subaru is a good community and they're not too fast. They're Subaru early cars that are plenty fast. What's that? Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I know. WRX is a great car. Yeah. No WRX. I think he's going to get that new electric on charge. But I said, enjoy driving my Dodge Ram as well. Yeah. I'm a truck guy, to be honest. Nobody believes that. Well, I'm, I love a big Hammy in a car. Yeah. No, you've always celebrated America with your choices. I did. You're a funny guy. I've seen that. Maybe I am, but that's, that's how I am. Rock and roll, Van Halen, funny candy colored, candy red colored guitars and stuff. Yeah. I like that. That's cool. You have to. But we're celebrating your stuff the same way. Yeah. Look at what we're doing. That's, that's me. It's cars, guitars and guns and guns and beer. Beer. Well, you'll fit right in here. We should, we should have one of those switcheroo's. You can come over and take over this show and let me go design some cars at Porsche. That would be very exciting. So I would love to do that. I would love to do that. Can I use all the cars sitting in here? You can do whatever you want. We'll be sure. I don't even know what's here anymore. Yeah. All right. Here, another question. More horsepower traditionally suggested for more driving fun. Do you think that's true anymore? You know, we have all these cars that are pushing. I would say that's complete bullshit. Sorry. It is. I'm sorry my language. Right. No, that's fine. The heavier car is the more horsepower it has, the heavier it has to be. Right. The more brakes it needs, the more stiffening up and everything. So the weight will go up and the ratios of the gears will go up because you get so much torque. So in a normal driving scenario on legal roads, you will always be tempted to overdo it vastly and end up in jail. And enjoying a drive is not about horsepower. It's about the agility, the lightweight and the feeling the car gives you. The thing factor I would say like this when you slightly touch the accelerator and that car bites instantly. Yes. You need short gearing and you need the noise. Definitely. You need the proper noise in a sports car. And my formula is always around 500 horses and 1450 kilos is the sweet spot. And if there's a manual transmission involved, all the more. So I don't need this 1,000. But I have a GT2 RS with 700 and something horsepower as well. But I hardly use it because on a normal street situation, it's almost too much. I remember you. It's not drag days. We were chatting somewhere maybe at Pebble when the GT2 RS came out and you said, never get rid of that car. We will never be able to do this again. And you didn't really elaborate on that. And it wasn't so much a comment about the model that it was a comment about the formula for this car. I think it was more a comment about legislation. Legislation. I mean, the GT2 RS is a very emotional car from the sound situation. I mean, it's really loud. It's really brute. It is King Kong on wheels. But it's also very incredible. It has this brutal aura. And we were leaning outside ourselves outside the window. We say in Germany, big time, legislational bias. It's all legal, but we tried very hard to get it through back then and it was in 17. And legislation wouldn't allow a car that is so loud and so, so, so, so, so, so racy. And yeah, that's maybe I was referring to that. Yeah. And I think it's one of the great cars, one of the great ratio between weight and horsepower was very, very good. Yeah. The cars feels very light and nimble even at slow speeds. When you when you exit the parking place, you already have fun in the car, despite being in a 700 horsepower car. Yeah. And all these other cars today that have more than 700 700 was a was a vast number back then. Today it's ho hum. It's a I mean, Corvette has a 1100 horsepower car. Ford's talk, we're talking about even more than 1200 or something like that. I mean, this is this is the different time now. But I don't think that horsepower is the is the way to go to make cars exciting in the future. It needs horsepower. It needs an engine that is capable of propelling the car to the horizon very fast. But you don't need 1000 horsepower for that. There you go. Definitely not. What are what are we going to do with this halo car you guys are making? Well, yeah. Well, you always need a halo. I know you can't talk about it, but you know, we were we were told the mission X is coming and then it looks like it's probably not coming. And then I've heard rumors, various rumors about a hybrid V8 supercar hypercar of some kind in the works. Is there anything you can say on on that subject that won't get you fired? No. The only thing I can say we're looking at a lot of things at the moment. 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It's a nine eleven ST because it's for me the perfect driver's card as the perfect combination of lightweight, great engine, low masses on the engine and the manual gearbox and the whole sound aura and the way the car feels is for me that would be my number one pick out of my twenty six cars that I did in my career in my career. And I would be I would stay close to that formula because I'm not too much the racer anymore that spends it's it spends his weekends at the paddock. I have great sympathy for everybody's doing it. I did it myself ten years ago, but right now the GT car for me is more the driver's car that is giving you the ultimate smile and wants wants to make you drive all day. And this is what it counts. It counts. I sold my ST. So horrible. So old. Yeah, I had it for a year out of your mind. I am. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. I know. But you made a good profit, I think it doesn't fix the pain. I feel right now, but everything you said about it is right. But no, we like we just like experiencing. I mean, we're addicted to what you make. So we just we don't have an unlimited budget. We like to just get one, drive it, talk about it, move on and then I'm eighteen. We'll give comfort yourself by getting an SC because it's on the way. This is an experience. Really, the last piece of the puzzle was getting the color and you just you just fix that for me. But I have a GT three touring coming in July and blue metallic as well. And yeah, you know, but we, you know, and you know, Jerry and I, we all think about you when we drive these cars and we call each other and we say, you feel this, did you feel that next time you call me, please? Yeah, and we can have a chat while you're driving. And it's always like you said, it's about balance and lightness. It's balance, lightness. It's a feeling the car transmits. And it's not just having some some some big engine, some good brakes. All the systems have to be in sync with each other to to to to to to give you that feeling on the wheel. You're exactly right. Drew Childers, what car are you most proud of? I think he just said that. JT says, Andy, what part of developing GT cars still excites you the most at this point after 26 cars? It's mostly the beginning, the beginning of the project where we've spent a lot of time with the studio guys, the styling engineers. My team and I am especially very picky about how the car looks because I think a GT car is always a car that has to be beautiful. You want it, it has to make you turn around when you leave the car to have a look at it again. And so, and especially wheels, we spend a lot of time of getting the car aesthetically correct, but at the same time, it has to be 100% form follows function. So we don't make fake wins or whatever. So everything aerodynamically has to work perfectly, but it has to look good. So at first we start with the function and then we're trying to make this function look as beautiful as possible. And this is a process that I like very much. And the second, I like almost more than the first, uh, than, than, than, than, than the first stages of the project is the launching the car. Things like today sitting here with Spike talking about the cars, getting comments by, by real customers, what they think about the product. This is the most rewarding phase. If you have done it right, if not, uh, you're in a bad place. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. And the Jaguar isn't being celebrated this weekend. Everything in between the whole development process is very, very intense and can be a pain in the neck, but, uh, that's the, that's a job we have to do 80% of the time. And, um, we're lucky that we have more projects in parallel. So we always have this, um, this, this first phase and this last phase, maybe once a year. And, um, we like that. Daniel Lang wants to know, are you aware that it's hard for many of us to get these GT cars? And, uh, is there, is Porsche ever going to make it easier? Is that really a dealership question as opposed to a factory question? It's different in, in so many countries. I mean, you have a special situation here in the U S, uh, the legal situation for the dealerships is completely different than in Europe. Um, so we can't, uh, interfere with their, uh, way to do things. So, uh, And a lot of people, let me just stop here. A lot of people don't know that it's true with all the manufacturers. The factory is not directly connected to sales. No, no, no, no, different companies, right? Exactly. They don't have that control. So that's, uh, that, that makes this question very hard to, uh, to answer. I, I'm aware of that. There's a shortage of cars mostly. And we're trying to, uh, to, to solve that by, for example, 9 11 SC. Yeah, it's not limited anymore. But we are small companies still. We have limited production capacities and, uh, um, we're trying to get better in that. But, uh, I definitely dare say that we won't be able to produce as many cars as the market wants, um, because, uh, the demand is simply too high. All right. Couple more. And then I'm going to get you out of here. Um, uh, Larry from Clearwater, Florida just wants to say hello. Well, that's nice. Hi Larry. Thanks Larry. That's, that's real nice. But we were asking for questions. That's where we get our cars. Those guys were just joking. Don't, don't take our cars away from us, please. Um, okay. Here's a good question. Uh, Tayman Paula SS wants to know your favorite American cars currently on sale. And we know you're an American truck fan, but what else? Currently on sale. Okay. Um, that's a good one. That's a good one. Actually I love, I like trucks. I love the, the, the, the very high power truck variants of the, of the Ford and, and, and, and Dodge and he's saying other than trucks, other than trucks, I have great respect for, for, for, for, for Corvette. I always was a Corvette guy. Wow. Even now as a mid-engine car, I mean, uh, great respect. And we always had very good relationships between the, between the Corvette engineers we met at the Nürburgring sometimes and they even gave us their exclusive slot for doing our own record lab. Oh, no way. It was on a 991.2 GT3 RS. That's cool. When they had the track and we asked them, can we have half an hour? We just want to make a little bit, a short record. And they were trying very hard to go below the seven, a seven minute mark, but they're really cool. And I like the cars. I like how the Corvette feels, handles, drives. And, um, if I would live here in a stage, maybe I would have a Corvette too. And I can see that. Yeah. I have great respect for the Ford GTD as well. It's a well-made car. Really? Yeah. Very great technology involved. It's a huge thing, uh, but it's, uh, it's down fast. Have you driven it? No, but I, I know the guy that runs the, runs the, uh, the Ford, uh, Germany, uh, office and, uh, they have a car and we, uh, said to exchange cars, he gets a GT3 RS and are getting a GTT. I didn't drive it yet. I always talk to people that drove one and, uh, asked him how they, how, how, how they feel about that. And, uh, I like Camaros as well. Actually, I like all the cars with big V eights. I love the V eight rumble and I love the, love the character of American cars, even though they're maybe a little bit cheaper on the inside, but I don't, I don't mind that because that, that befits the character of the car. Okay. Here's the last question. It's a good one. This is going to require some thought, but I like this question a lot. I've never asked it before. It's from a gentleman known as the timepiece gentleman. If you could go back 50 years, 40, 50 years to Stuttgart designing Porsche, what would you make that wasn't already made? So essentially if you go back to fifties and sixties of Porsche, 40 years ago is not the fifties. Yeah. But he, he, he got that wrong. He got that wrong. But let's say you go back anytime sixties, fifties, seventies. What, what's missing there that you would make? Um, I'm a, I'm a nine 11 guy through and through. So we have a nine 11. Okay. So 68 to let's say, uh, 85, what would you make? I think, I think the, the nine 44, nine 68 front engine cars. They, um, I would, I would love to see them come back in a way. Um, there are some, some, uh, some people on the internet that do like this, uh, this virtual reality renderings of a modern looking nine 68. And I saw some that really looked very cool. Actually that would be a great car to do. Um, that was, that would be something, but, but he's saying a completely new model line. He's saying, Andy, wait, he's saying you go back in time. Okay. You're now in 1968. You're a designer at Porsche. What would you make 1958? We've got speedsters. We've got convertible D's in that zone. We've got, is there, is there, see, it requires a second of thinking. Is there a special three 56 you would have made if you could go back in time. You in 73 alone, what do we have? We have the two points, the 2.7 carrier RS. That would have made a very, very good platform for a touring like thing. I mean, they, they, they were, they were naming it, but I would take away the, the duck tail and, and, and make this more like the, like the SQ and do, do this, maybe enhance this driver car thing a little bit earlier than we did. Um, because the car got drivers cars, but as a byproduct, they were mostly cars built for the races and then somebody changed a little bit on them. And then they were considered a driver's car. But a car to just have fun to drive around with on a, on a, on a, on a Sunday afternoon. Um, but actually that was a 9-11 always. So it's a really a tough question. I'm 73 RS touring was a great answer. Yeah. That's a great answer. I mean, I love that. Leave the, leave the duck tail away and the stripes and like a little bit less obtrusive. Yeah. And, uh, but the same powertrain and, uh, that, uh, that would be maybe a good idea. I love that. Well, we've covered a lot today, Andy. This is fantastic. Yeah. I know. So I'm juiced up. I'm, I'm super excited about everything that you're doing. I'm now, uh, I now know what we're doing with our SC. Uh, I feel like I understand these deep cars on a deeper level, which happens every time. And I'm really taken by the, uh, the simplicity of your approach to these things. And, uh, you know, I sometimes I think people overthink, or they drill down on minutiae or engines and the rest of it. And, and just the simplicity of how you expressed what these cars are about to you and how you design them and how you make them or what I really enjoy about them. It's not rocket science. It's, it's, it's about knowing what the customer wants and what the customers enjoys. And, um, we are, we are feeling like the customers themselves. And that makes us very easy to find the right product substance because I would say everybody out of my team that develops these cars would buy a car, a GT car, if you could afford it, when he wouldn't be working at Porsche. So we, we think alike, and that makes it very, very easy, uh, to find out what the market needs. And that was always the, the formula behind it. And having the right people. Are you going to be up in Monterey? Um, this summer, I always try to be at the Monterey car week because I really enjoy it, although it changed a lot during the last year. I think. Well, we see a lot of Lamborghinis and, uh, yeah, I think that's not necessary. So, um, but, um, yeah, I think I will, I will be there. So you will quail. Good. I'll see you up there. Okay. Are you going to bring something special? Sounds good. You bet. There you go. Andy Pruninger. We'll see you next week. Spice Car Radio.