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Suzi Quatro After 61 years in music she still has stories to tell

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Oct 21, 20256 months ago
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Summary

Tony Mantor interviews legendary musician and entertainer Suzi Quatro about her seventh book 'Grave Undertakings,' a psychological fiction novel inspired by tombstone inscriptions collected over 35+ years. Quatro reflects on her 61-year career spanning music, acting, writing, and visual arts, discussing her creative process, upcoming rock album, and philosophy of continuous artistic evolution.

Insights
  • Creative flow in artistic work often surprises the creator themselves—Quatro experienced genuine discovery when re-reading her completed manuscript with fresh eyes, not remembering writing certain passages
  • Multi-disciplinary artists leverage deep self-knowledge across mediums; Quatro's psychology interest informed her novel's depth, demonstrating how personal traits become creative assets
  • Longevity in entertainment requires balancing gratitude with critical self-assessment—Quatro maintains ground-level humility while continuously critiquing and upgrading her work
  • Legacy-building shifts artist motivation from goal-achievement to experience-enjoyment; Quatro describes her current phase as 'gravy years' where she performs for fulfillment rather than validation
  • Audience connection remains the primary driver for veteran performers; Quatro actively engages with multi-generational family audiences and identifies disengaged attendees in crowds of thousands
Trends
Multi-platform content adaptation: established artists leveraging IP across books, TV/film, and music simultaneouslyIntergenerational audience building: legacy artists attracting children and grandchildren of original fans through consistent quality and cultural relevanceCreative authenticity as brand: transparency about artistic process and self-critique building deeper audience loyalty than polished image managementLate-career artistic reinvention: performers 70+ returning to core genres/styles rather than chasing trends, signaling audience appetite for authentic retrospectivesPsychology and wellness content in entertainment: fiction exploring mental health and self-discovery resonating with readers seeking depth beyond plotStudio-as-laboratory approach: artists treating recording sessions as creative discovery zones rather than execution-only environmentsMemoir-to-fiction evolution: established autobiographers expanding into fictional narratives to explore themes beyond personal history
Topics
Creative Writing Process and Artistic FlowMulti-Disciplinary Entertainment CareersBook Publishing and Author MarketingTelevision and Film Adaptation of Literary WorksMusic Production and Studio RecordingPerformance Psychology and Audience EngagementCareer Longevity in Entertainment IndustrySelf-Critique and Artistic Quality ControlLegacy Building and Intergenerational AudiencesActing in Television (Happy Days)Rock Music Album DevelopmentPoetry and Literary PublishingArtist Mentorship and Collaborative LearningPersonal Branding for Established ArtistsTouring and Live Performance Strategy
Companies
River Creek Casino
Venue where Quatro performed a sold-out show in Canada in 2018 during her most recent North American tour
People
Suzi Quatro
61-year entertainment career; published seven books including new novel 'Grave Undertakings'; upcoming rock album in ...
Tony Mantor
Host of the podcast episode interviewing Suzi Quatro about her career and new book
Ron Howard
Happy Days cast member who mentored Quatro on acting technique during her first television role on the show
Henry Winkler
Happy Days cast member who provided Quatro with performance coaching on stage movement and character authenticity
Donnie Most
Happy Days cast member; maintains family-like relationship with Quatro 50 years after show aired
Anson Williams
Happy Days cast member; part of recent Nashville reunion attempt with Quatro and other cast members
Alice Cooper
Collaborated with Quatro on duet track recorded in Detroit for her upcoming rock album
Quotes
"I'm one of those people, and I've met other people like me too. I'm a bit of a graveyard dweller. A lot of people find graveyards fascinating. I'm one of them."
Suzi QuatroEarly in interview
"The story started to write itself. I kind of let it as, as artistically it does. Once I came up with the characters and that I wanted it to be a psychology course, 10 lessons and it takes you through their lives."
Suzi QuatroDiscussing creative process
"I was a reader. Sure. Forget about it. I didn't write it. Read it. I must have stopped every half an hour and thought, who wrote this? You do lose the sense of what you did."
Suzi QuatroOn re-reading manuscript
"Now I call them the gravy years. And I can enjoy what I do. Not that you don't have the pressure of always doing a good job. That's always there. But it's not like, I am Suziquatra, but I don't have to be Suziquatra."
Suzi QuatroOn current career phase
"If the good Lord to take me tonight, I've left a lot here. I've left a body of work. I mean, my God, I'm proud of that."
Suzi QuatroReflecting on legacy
Full Transcript
My career in the entertainment industry has enabled me to work with a diverse range of talent. Through my years of experience, I've recognized two essential aspects. Industry professionals, whether famous stars or behind the scenes staff have fascinating stories to tell. Secondly, audiences are eager to listen to these stories which offer a glimpse into their lives and the evolution of their life stories. This podcast aims to share these narratives, providing information on how they evolved into their chosen career. We will delve into their journey to stardom, discuss their struggles and successes, and hear from people who help them achieve their goals. Get ready for intriguing behind the scenes stories and insights into the fascinating world of entertainment. Hi, I'm Tony Mantor. Welcome to Almost Live Nashville. We're thrilled to have the incredibly talented Susie Quattro with us today. A celebrated singer, songwriter, actress, artist, and author. Susie is here to share her captivating new book Fresh Off the Press. Join us as she takes us through the journey of writing it and reflects on her remarkable career. From soulful songwriting and electrifying performances to iconic moments on happy days, it's truly a pleasure to have her here with us today. So before we dive into our episode, we'll be right back with an uninterrupted show right after a word from our sponsors. Thanks for joining us. It's my pleasure. So now I understand that you've written a book. This is my seventh book. The first one was my autobiography on Zipped. Okay. That was it. I believe 2006. Second one was my novel, my first novel, The Hurricane. Then I had, and I don't know the order of these, my two poetry books, Do My Eyes and Do My Heart. Okay. Then I had all of it inspired, mind thing called Do My Thoughts. Then a lyric book called Do My Words. And now this one here called Grave Undertakings, which is what we're talking about today. Yeah. So what inspired that? It's a funny story. I have this title. It must have been 35, maybe even longer years ago. I had this great title. To be quite honest, I'm one of those people, and I've met other people like me too. I'm a bit of a graveyard dweller. A lot of people find graveyards fascinating. I'm one of them. Okay. You know, if I'm going by a church and it goes through, you see the grave, I'm in there, I'm looking at the tombstones. I do it all the time. So that's probably where this title came from. And I decided that I would collect tombstone inscriptions from friends of mine, famous friends. And I did it all the way through the years forever. I've got at the back of the book, you find all the inscriptions. So many of them, loads of them are dead. You know, because it collected over so long. A lot of still alive too. Then I went to assemble the book about a year and a half ago. I'm guessing about that. And as I was putting the quotes together, I realized it was a book. It was a story. Okay. And then the creativity took over and I went, wow. And so I made it about, which I wanted the quotes at the end to have a payoff so that they had a reason to be there. You know, so I took six psychology students. They needed a tutorial at a college, but then Austrian professor and off you go into their lives, you know, ins and outs, ups and downs, everything. So it takes you on a little journey. I used my imagination and it came up with six characters, you know, three guys, three girls. And to be quite honest, the story started to write itself. So I kind of let the as, as artistically it does. Once I came up with the characters in that I wanted it to be a psychology course, 10 lessons and it takes you through their lives. And then each lesson has reason and they discovered things about themselves, about each other. The professor, I don't want to give too much away, but I feel kind of sorry for him. Then at the end, when the story's over, then you get all the tombstone quotes. I think there's about 150 in there. Wow. So when you, I've heard this so many times before that when somebody starts writing, you come up with the ideas and then all of a sudden it just starts flowing. And like you said, it writes itself. It does. So as it flowed, did you find yourself being kind of surprised to where it led to? Well, two things happened. First of all, I'm not going to, you know, lie about it. When I wanted to go certain places in the lessons and I didn't know certain technical terms and all this, now I looked up different things and studied, studied different things I wanted to learn about. And yes, what you're saying is right. In fact, the biggest time that that happened was when I took delivery of this book and she said, can you look at it and then approve it? And then we go to print. Right. So I thought to myself, okay, let's sit down, divorce myself from it. Yeah. I was a reader. Sure. Forget about it. I didn't write it. Read it. I must have stopped every half an hour and thought, who wrote this? You do lose the sense of what you did. Right. And it's funny because if you're an artist like I am, it does take over. Right. And it just, it just goes, sometimes I've talked to other songwriters about this as well. You write a song, you stick it down so you don't forget it on a little tape recorder or whatever. And you go back the next day and you listen and you're so surprised and you honestly don't have any memory. Right. And this book surprised me a whole lot. It's amazing you brought that up because I was going to ask you because when you're in the studio, you lay down the tracks, you lay down your vocals, and then you come back the next day and you listen to them with fresh ears. So did this create fresh eyes? Absolutely fresh eyes, yeah. I found myself actually saying, which is really crazy. I wonder what happens next. And then I say, Suzy, you wrote it. No, you're doing this track. It's absolutely true. That's the wonderful thing about creativity, actually. It's magical. Yeah. So what was your emotions through the whole thing? Because this is something that you created rather than just something that's actual happened. So how did the emotions feel once you'd got it completed and then you re-read it and kind of set back and go, whoa, this is mine? Yeah, I was able to pick out, so obviously every writer writes about what they know. Right. You know, you have to personalize it just like when you act in a part, you find things of yourself that you can relate to. So as it turned out to be a psychological book, I'm a very psychological person anyway. I could have actually done that as a living hand. I knock on into the arts. Right. I think it would have been either a psychiatrist or a criminal lawyer. They're pretty much the same thing. So yeah, my emotions were strange. I was very proud of what I'd done. And at the same time, I was surprised when it showed me about my inner workings because there's a bit of me in every character, you know? Sure. You know, your little areas of, oh my God. Yeah. There were a lot of surprises, something that you wrote down that it's like, where did that come from? There were a lot of surprises. Okay. I'm telling you, people have said that to me. Where did that exactly, where did you get that from? I have to say, I don't know. But a lot of surprises. It took twists and turns I didn't expect it to take. But once I was in these characters, and then you, of course, you make friends with each character, you know? Right. You make them, and then you make a sense of them. I found myself having feelings about each character, and I felt bad. I took one character one way, and I felt really bad about it. But I thought, no, no, no, no, no, you have to go this way. Yeah. There's just no other way. No, I'm sorry about that, you know? But yeah, you'll probably relate. Most people are relating to one or two of the characters. But the best compliment I got was a guy that was interviewing me May the first, and he walked me about two or three weeks before that. And he said, I know we're talking, and I'm going to review your book. He said, but I have to tell you, I read it. Good. And I did not expect this. He said, where did you get your psychological knowledge from? How did you put it in such a compelling fictional manner? And then he said, this should be required reading for every human and every psychology student. I went, what? Nice. Nice. I guess it touched him. Yeah. That's the nice thing you've got. You know, I have to say, because I'm that way minded anyway, I am always analyzing it, a sponge, and if something goes wrong, I'll think about it until I figure it out. Yeah. So coming up with this title and the tombstones, and then coming up with the idea to do a novel, it gave me a wide blank canvas to write all my stuff that I do. I'm a mind person. I was able to really enjoy all the things I've learned through the years. Yeah. Being in the business for 61 years, you know, and having to learn about people real quick and having to suss people out and size up an audience. And it's the school of life. Yeah. And I didn't graduate high school, but I know people. Yeah. You know, common sense loss of times overrides education. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So did you find yourself, did any of the characters that you've ever played in the past influence some of the things that some of your characters did in this book? I tried to get a visual, and I'm sure my husband won't mind me saying it, but to begin with, I used me as Penelope Perfect, and my husband as X. Morozo. I thought it was a good starting point because I am optimistic and he's naturally pessimistic. So, and that was one of the first things that Professor talks about. So I used this to begin with, and then that got me flowing. And then I had to get some, you know, most of the characters I had a visual. Sure. I had a visual a lot of think, I think to myself, I know I knew somebody like this in school. Yeah. So you can go back to that kind of character. So yeah, I think every writer does anything when you write your song. If it's not about you, particularly, then you'll have to find a focal point. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So now you've got the book out. Where can people get ahold of it? Everywhere that you can get books. Okay. Can order from any shop. Can order online. And I'm hoping now to maybe I want to get this made into a 10-part TV series. Oh, nice. Wouldn't that be good? Yeah, yeah, that would be exciting. It screams for it, really. That's great. So you're going to be working on trying to get a screenplay for it put together. Are you planning on doing it? I'm not involved, obviously. I mean, I've never done a screenplay. So I don't say that I could do that, but I'd like to be involved. Yeah, sure. Sure. That makes sense because you've got an idea of where you want to take it. Absolutely. And every time they write a screenplay off of a book, they take parts out. They do different things. So you definitely want to keep the body of your work. Keep my hand on it, absolutely. So any plans musically? Are you going on a tour this year? Are you doing anything there? Yeah, non-stop. I'm just starting to recording my next solo album, which is good. And I'm doing non-stop gigs this year. June, July, and August. My feet don't touch the ground. September, then I got another Australian tour on my 41st tour. It's crazy. The next year I'm doing 10 shows in the UK. So I'm looking forward to that. I'm working harder than I've ever done and constantly be seeing material, writing books, and you know, I'm not one of these sit still people. Yeah, on the same way. Do you find yourself now that you are in a situation where you can do what you want to do, you can sit back and look at what you've done? Do you find yourself in a situation of now you can enjoy more of what you're doing rather than earlier years? It was constant, get out there, make your name, get it out there. Do you find the difference that you've expanded now so that when you do something it's like, yeah, I'm really looking forward to this? Yes, I think when you first in the business and you're just getting, you know, you're just having your hits and blah, blah, blah, it's non-stop deadline and pressure. Sure. It is. Sure. Every artist will tell you that. So it's like, oh my God, oh my voice is okay tonight. But of course, that's how it is. Now I'm going to be 75 in June, 61 years in the business. I basically can do what I like. Yeah. Got my performance down pat. I do my two hour shows. My voice is better than it's ever been. You know what, what you just said is right. Now I call them the gravy years. And I can enjoy what I do. Not that you don't have the pressure of always doing a good job. That's always there. Yes. But it's not like, I am Suziquatra, but I don't have to be Suziquatra. Does that make sense? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So what's on the bucket list? I mean, you've done all these things, you're 60 years of in the business. What are some of the things that you still look at and say, man, I'd really like to do this. Oh my God, I've done so much of everything. Oh. I've just delivered my third poetry book that'll come out this summer. Nice. No, I can't think of anything. I try not to have goals. Yeah. Yeah. Because as an artist, if you have a goal, what happens when you reach it? Right. Right. Exactly. You better keep it open. Then you've got nothing to wake up for. Oh, I did that. Now you're dead. You know, then I'm in the book. Yeah. Oh, and my, my, my tombstone, by the way, I must tell you that because I've got a good one. I'm a Gemini. Okay. So I get two sides. Okay. And the first side says, and now I get it. Okay. And the second side says too many dreams, too little time. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's good. Because, you know, when you sit back and you look at your career, you've started out with a goal and then you get to the point of where you've done what you've done. You can sit back and look at your body of work, everything that you've done and look at all the things that created it. And you can sit back and take a comfort in this like, you know, not bad. Not bad. In fact, one of the poems in my book that I just delivered that sit out yet. I was, I was musing on that fact one time I was sitting alone and I was thinking just about that, you know, sometimes you're more, you know, your mind goes there. That's everybody does. Everybody thinks about the mortality sometimes. Yeah. And one of the problems that ends with that is says, if the good Lord to take me tonight, I've left a lot here. Yeah, absolutely. I've left a body of work. I mean, my God, I'm proud of that. So what stands out to you? I mean, when you look back and you reflect, what stands out? What do you look at and say, yeah, I'm really proud that I did that? But that, that's a big question. I'm very proud that I have been able to be this successful, still feel grateful and love it so much and still be, you know, a little bit, oh my God, you're letting me go on on stage. And the most thing that I'm proud of is my feet are very much on the ground. Yeah, that's good. Because some people don't ever get that. And that's good that you do. No, they don't. Now, what about, I know I talk with other artists that have been out there for years like yourself, and it's interesting to get their reflection on when they go out on stage, the audience that's in front of them. Do you find yourself with the people that started out following you, then their kids and their grandkids and you see all these age variances? You certainly do. You get, you get whole families there, which is fantastic. Yeah. That means, you know, your legacy continues. And with the internet, of course, you know, they have access to everything. I'm very much an audience person. So I like to relate to every single person in their room. It's so funny. You can have 5,000 people if there's one person not going, I will find them. Yeah. I get a laser. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I still love, I still love, love, love performing. That's what keeps me going. Yeah. What's next? You've got the book out there. You've talked about possibly turning it into a series or doing something with that. What's next? What's your vision now? Well, right now I'm working on the new album. Okay. I've got no ideas for any more books and not at the moment anyway. More gigs. I just want to keep feeling like I feel that's my goal. Be happy. And that's great. I mean, the fact that you're getting ready to turn 75 and you're still out there doing what you're doing and doing it at a high level and a high quality, you know, that's what speaks volumes. It does speak volumes. And like I said, it's a little bit of everything. I used to hate it when people say, oh, you got lucky. It's not luck. You have to have the talent. But saying that, of course, luck comes into it. Yeah. But first you've got to have the talent or you're not going to get very lucky, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's just great. I love my job and I've been very blessed that I have been allowed to be successful at my chosen career. Yeah. Did you, when you first started out, you was more on the singing side. Was you kind of surprised that you wound up in the acting? I mean, happy days and all those situations? No. Not at all. Not at all. I knew, in fact, I'm that kind of entertainer to tell you the truth that I could have gone this way, that way, this way, that way. I always knew I could act. That wasn't a surprise to me. I even thought about being a comedian when I was a young girl. I can tell a good joke. I was always writing. I was always painting. I'm just an artist. That's nice. Yeah. And anything that within this big ball of wax that's called the, if I can do it, I will do it. I try not to do what I can do, but I have a good thing about what I can do. Well, the beauty of it is when a person self reflects on what they're doing, they can look at what they're doing, whether it be a book or music or acting or art, you know, a good one can look at that, whatever it is and say, you know what? That's crap. I need to make it better. Or man, this is really good. If I do this, it'll make it superb. You got to know. Oh, absolutely. I can be watching something on TV that I've done. I will critique it. You know, and even if I watch a live show and somebody's taped it, I might go, didn't like that bit. No. And always, and you're always learning. You're always upgrading your show. But you always do. I've seen these back up my shoulder. I've said to myself, don't say that again. That's not funny. Yeah. You know, yeah, you got, you got to be able to step outside the, I hate using the word, but it's not not your alter ego. Yeah. You have to be able to outside it and look at it with the styles. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So when you go on stage, what's a typical, what's it look like? Not from your end, from the audience's end. Oh gosh. What are they going to see? They see, I'm going to not put myself in the audience. They see this small girl with this big bass guitar stride onto the stage like she owns it, but at the same time, a little bit shy. Okay. I get that. I get that. Because when you walk out there, you're kind of thinking, I hope they like me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I do love it. That's, that's great. So, so are you planning on coming to the U.S. at all in a tour? Do you know, I'm always trying to get back there and it always seems to fall through, but I'm not going to say never. Yeah. Not going to say never. So I would love to, I'd love to come there and try. I think the last one I did was, what year was it? It was our anniversary. What year, Ryder, what year was it that we went? Oh, we're sleeping. Ryder, what year did we have our Dilemma River Creek casino? Don't think of it. He's, he's Mr. Mind over here. Yeah. And it was one of our anniversary. 2018. Which? 2018. 2018. I played at the River Creek Casino in Canada, sold it out to Nikes. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. But I'd love to come back, but maybe it'll happen because, you know, it's always mentioned. So who knows? Yeah. Never saying. So do you go home much? Yeah. I've been to Detroit quite a few times, twice for, I mean, I went there a lot in the older days that we were always playing in the tours. I did two, two BBC radio shows there, which is what we just talked about. One from old town and then one for the White Rock and Roll Bands. Yeah. And then I was there for three days there. 65 and 70. Right. Right. The briefs came to the 70th. Yeah. And I've been there for, to get my Michigan Rock and Roll Hall of Fame award, then I went there again to do around Dick Wagner charity for the children. Yeah. Yeah. And I was there recently, the most important, last September and we recorded a duet at was Cooper and I. Nice. Nice. He's on my new album. Yeah. So I don't talk too much about that because it's not really a step, but we did a track and made a video. He agreed to appear on my next album. So nice. Nice. And that's what I was going to ask you. What's, what's the new music going to sound like that you're coming out with? It's kind of full circle back to more the where I began. Oh, nice. Yeah. So it's, it is a rock album. This is a rock album. Right. Good. Good. We just did three days in the studio with putting down the bass and the drums and I played heavy bass for five hours each day. Okay. A little bit swollen. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was something else. Yeah. But when you sit down and you've got it all finished, you can sit back and say, you know, it was worth it all because listen to that sound. There's nothing that beats that. No, there is nothing. The satisfaction is great. You know, yeah, it might be hard laying it down, laying it down. And then you listen, you go, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's always nice because just like writing a book when the characters take over, when you're in the studio, the studio magic can happen. And then all of a sudden you just got something that just really shines. I've just in a different zone. Yeah. The engineer actually turned around to me because we were talking about that after the track and he said, yeah, he said, I couldn't even get you to look at me. I said, I know what's in my whole little place. Yeah. I just, you're, you're, you're in the music basically. That's right. It absorbs you. Yeah. Well, this has been great. I want you to let the listeners know that in case just anything coming up or what you'd like them to know about you. It's all there. Everything you need to know is in my song lyrics, in my songs, in my books, in my TV appearances. It's all there. Our radio shows. I don't hide. Okay. What you see is what you get. That's, that's great. I love the fact that you keep in touch with everybody, Donnie and Anson and all that. That's the one thing that Donnie and Anson always tell me, man, it's like we're family. It was like a family. And in fact, just before we go, I actually said to Ron one time we were talking and I said, did it, did I seem like a new actress on the show? He said, no, that's the strangest thing, Susie. From the first show it was like you had always been there. Nice. Yeah. So it was just comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Here just a few months ago they were in Nashville. That's why I saw that. Yeah. They were trying to get me to come along. I'm one of them. I'm trying to see if I can do it or not. So that would be great. The four of them got together. I know, I know, and they're trying to get me, but it's where my gigs interfere because I would come. Yeah. Oh, that, that would be fab. Yeah. That would be good. It's always fun to get the, the people together. I mean, Allison Ongram, she was the evil little one on Little House on the Prairie. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had her on just last week. Little House on the Prairie was the same thing as Happy Days last year, 50th anniversary. That's right. That's right. That's amazing. You sit back and some of these shows, you look at them as 50 years ago. Couldn't get much bigger than Happy Days. No. It was. When you was on Happy Days and they were putting that out, what were some of your emotions that went through on that? How did you feel about being part of that iconic show? Obviously, I was honored to be part of it, but I remember we were reading through the script first time I met everybody. So we're in the room reading through the script the next day. You're in the, where they filmed it and you're running through it with your scripts. But I tensed. I don't know if I was right or wrong, but I think I was right. I sensed that they probably were thinking, huh, not that they didn't like me, but huh. So she comes out with all these hits and she walks in to think she can act. I had a feeling that that might have been the feeling from somebody. So before we started rehearsals the next day, they were all sitting there and I said, listen, I got to tell you all something. I said, okay, I know you all know my history and where I come from and that I've been very successful and blah, blah. I said, okay, I've done that a long time. This is my first show as an actress and I would appreciate any help that you can give me. Nice. And boy, did they, they all did. Ron would say, speak up a little bit on this line, do this on the, you know, and Henry, he gave me a good tip. He said, I was just watching you walk around the Cunningham living room. He said, dude, do me a favor, walk away from me and come back. And I walked away, came back. He said, you got a great walk. I said, thank you. He said, you're not walking like that in the living room. I said, I have not. I said, no, you're walking like you've never been in there before. So while we're doing something else in one of the other scenes, go over there and walk in that room and he was right. Made me comfortable. So yeah, everybody helped. So it was good. It was a good show to be on. Yeah. Yeah. And the great thing is 50 years later is still relevant. Oh yeah. That's got to be just a great feeling to be part of something like that. Oh, gotcha. I'm very proud of that. Well, again, I appreciate you coming on. It's been great. Okay. My pleasure. It was great to talk to you. Thank you very much for your time too. It's been my pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.