Survivor AU: Redemption Week 6 Recap

The gloves are about to come off. It is time to drop your buffs. Drop, drop, drop. Come on in! Drop your buffs! You are correct. Bring it in! You are correct. Sorry, Analyze. Vibers ready? Drop your buffs. Welcome back to Drop Your Buffs Down Under. I'm Sean Ross. I'm Kevin Ross Katz. Okay, we're in a rush because we're recording this moments before the Big Blood Moon episode of Survivor 50. And I gotta watch that live. This is appointment television. So, look. We have lots to say and we'll get it in. Wait, I have something to say actually. All right, let's hear it. So, I've been holding this information back from you, but I got a DM today from none other than David Genet. Are you joking? No, I'm not joking. And I haven't even read it. I feel flushed. You got one on your personal account? Yeah, and I just looked at it really quickly, but I didn't really read it because I wanted to save it so I could read it live. Oh my God, what are you talking about? Read it! Okay. You didn't even message me! You might have to cut this out depending on how it goes. Okay, so it says... This is a neighbor fool's joke! I'm lightheaded! What do you mean? Read it. It says... It says, hey mate. I've been hearing a bit about the pod. I appreciate you getting around it. I did want to flag something though. The ongoing chat about my knockers and the tight shirts. I get that it's meant to be a laugh, but it's probably getting a bit much. All right, well, you almost got me. You almost got me. You got me for a second there. Oh, I had so much planned. I bet you did. The really ridiculous thing about this is it's going to come out like tomorrow. It's already April 2nd in Australia. You're actually my first one that I failed today. Okay, well, you almost got me. You got me for a second. I think that counts. How did you know? Well, it's just like, why would he be messaging you? To complain about the knockers talk. Obviously. But the crazy thing is it seems like he heard you because you... Like what? A week ago, two weeks ago, you were like, let's get a tank top on David. Yeah. And what did he pull out this week? His hottest look yet in this cut off shirt, which I would qualify as a tank. I was actually working really closely with the stylist this season. I also just never told you because I wanted to tell you live. I have something else to say and I have a bit of a bone to pick with you. Go for it. Well, you were talking shit about me on your little podcast. I was not. You were talking shit about me. What did I say? What did you say? Well, you took my comments that I said in my private emails to you and you took it to the big boss of DYB Corp. What did I say? Well, I don't disagree with you. I... And you said, let me frame for everybody what the comeback is. And Kevin texted me and he's like, if you're listening to drop your buffs, you know what the comeback is. So I have to push back at that actually because... All right. Well, I don't disagree. And now I'm in a public feud with Evan Ross Katz when Get in Line. And what I was saying was meant ingest. Okay. I was joking that the audience of Drop Your Buffs is an audience of cool girlies and LGBTs and maybe some A's. A's? Allies. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, point noted. Look, I didn't know you were listening to the podcast. Oh, really? Because you also said this. Like, okay. Kevin Hazelhurst, our new co-host of Drop Your Buffs on the Australian Survivor Recast. Now he's listening to all the episodes, right? So... I don't know if you understand what his name comes up. Yeah. I'm done. Did it ever occur to you that maybe I'm just listening because I enjoy the content? Maybe it's not about... Thank you, man. It's maybe you don't need to imply that I'm some kind of narcissist. I quit. I quit. Maybe I'm a Buffy. And maybe I'm just trying to get through the day like everyone else. So let's get into the week of Australian Survivor because we have a lot to talk about and I'm done talking about me. Can we give the disclaimer that this... I watched these episodes almost a full week ago now. Yeah. Well, that's on you because you know our recording schedule. It's exactly right before Survivor airs on Wednesdays. Yeah, every week. Every week. And the clock is ticking. Causes for a hard out. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. Look, your memory of these episodes may be foggy, but I won't lead you astray. Okay. I'm gonna steer the ship here even though I've been called out, raked over the coals, and... You have... I have by you and your evil corporation. Okay. Well, just let me play the victim for a second here. Are you drinking on the job? So, my friend was here this weekend and I just opened up my fridge and realized she left me a beer. Oh, that's nice. I saw... You're just like Simon because I just saw Simon's jury villa social media post on the Australian Survivor Instagram page where they follow the contestants as they go check into the jury villa in Samoa and he opened his fridge, saw a beer, opened it up and said, like a good tradie, I like to polish off a beer after a hard day's work. He also likes a chunky Kit Kat. Yeah, he does. Okay. So, you watched it too. Look, at least you do your homework. I try. Okay. All right. Let's go all the way back to episode 16, which was a week ago for you, but for most people, it was just a couple of days ago. So, I want to talk about how there was some follow from the mark boot, which for you would be like three weeks ago now on your watching schedule, but Mark was voted out and everybody was clamoring to take credit for this. Ben and Jackson felt like they were the power duo that orchestrated this whole vote. Caleb was like, well, I'm the one who flipped. It's my thing. But nobody was more incensed than Blanche, who Blanche was like, excuse me. This was my idea. Me and Johnson came up with this idea. And Brooke being the voice of the people, the voice of the viewer was like, who the fuck is Johnson? Like, Brooke is talking about like, I came up with this plan back when dinosaurs were roaming the earth. Don't you think it speaks to Blanche's connection to the game that when she said that they didn't even challenge her on it? Oh, okay. It's like, who said it later in the last episode or the second episode or something? I think it was Ben said that Blanche in this game has all the awareness of a fart or something like that. Rude, but yes. Which I thought was a low blow. I like in Australia how they say, they refer to it as a tick. They said, this is a big tick for Caleb. I don't think they say that in the US. This will be a big tick for Caleb and his regime. Yeah. And for Blanche, I thought it was a big tick for Blanche and her regime. Even though Blanche will go out this week having never voted correctly in the game once. But you know what? She, I believe her. I believe Blanche. She did get the mark trained and going all that time ago with Johnson. And I think she deserved a little credit for it. Absolutely. All of it. I'm with Blanche on this one. But I have to say that the other big piece of the follow-up from Mark's exit was that Keely and Brooke are having so much fun without Mark. Suddenly, these girls, they're brand new girls. I don't recognize them anymore. Yeah. The public tide has just fully turned on, turned the opposite way. Is that even a thing? Whatever. Like, seeing her just with a new bestie, like Brooke brought out the best in her, where it's Mark and Faith were bringing out the worst in her. And I don't think she even changed that much, but there's just something that feels so much lighter about it with Brooke. Yeah. We feel so free. K-A-P-U-T-C-PUT. C-P-U-T. We were having so much fun with them. And then like, okay, that's fine. They're laughing. They're giggling. They're like, well, we're fucked now. And that's the position we wanted to see them in. We wanted to see the top dogs become the underdogs. But nothing was more fun than in this episode watching them do the arts and crafts where Keeley's like, look, I've got this real idol. I'm telling you about it, Brooke. She already knew about it because Mark told her. But I'm telling you about it. And I've got supplies to make a pretty good fake idol. And I loved how this was strung throughout the episode. And they're like, one night they're collecting materials. It's really the next day when they're at the well. And it's like a scene from a pioneer village where there's like a blacksmith. Keeley was like blacksmithing an idol together using the ladle at the water well to hammer. I don't even know how she did it. I don't know how she made a nail. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think the production is like deliberately leaving little things like that around in the hopes that someone will make a fake idol? Absolutely. Absolutely. That was a really good one. Like if we didn't have later on like the other idol to compare it to, there's no way that that looked like a fake idol, at least to me. Totally. And I feel like it's the best fake idol I've seen since like Bob in Gabon where he was like tapping resin out of the tree to put together. But there was no like template for what that idol should look like where this was like we have one idol we know what it looks like and here's the other idol which is like it's a glancing idol. If you glance at it, it's for sure real. The problem was I think they made the chain too long because Brooke was like fishing it out of her underpants. Is that what was going on? Because I thought she was just stalling. Because obviously she didn't want to show it because if we have a real idol and the fake idol, then you can kind of see one of these things is not like the other. And so she wanted to like have them glance at it. And so she was in the meantime going to leave it under her sweater. But the problem was once she put it into her sweater, it like fell to the ground. Like it was so low hanging. I think that was the key mistake in all of this was the length of the chain. But it's not it wasn't even a mistake. It ultimately kind of worked in her favor. Totally. Yeah. I loved it. I love the arts and crafts so much. I love that Brooke was pulling out pieces of paper. She's got like instructions and user manuals in her back pocket. She has to find the right one. She's got so many. I loved this scene so much. And I feel like you're right. Things have really turned around for Keely in the public opinion where I think Keely is probably the front runner for everybody to win. Wow. I also would say the same about Brooke, though. Like there's been so many episodes where Brooke was like barely even in the show. But then she has these like massive episodes that are all focused on her that are so good. And I feel like if she like her Keely, I would have said Simon, like they all are just primed to win. And I think they won the audience as well. Yeah, totally. I feel like the only thing working against Brooke is that she's a returning. And so I just at this point, seeing the way that things are going, I don't see. Well, Keely is a returning. Well, did you not see her in the promo? Keely is certainly an honorary returning, but I don't think that Cameron thinks of Keely as a returning. So that may be where Brooke's game may not have the staying power of Keely's game. But I'm having so much fun with them. Can we talk about the reward in this episode? Because this was truly an all time iconic reward. The IKEA family feast where you will dine in style on iconic Swedish meatballs. That is such a good reward. I mean, I thought the Mahindra was a good one. This blows the Mahindra out of the water. Like give me bowls and bowls of Swedish meatballs. Oh my God, how did they even get them there? Who cooked them? I think you can take them home with you now, frozen. You can. They sent a shipment of frozen Swedish meatballs to Samoa. And wow, what a reward. IKEA Samoa. And it's just once again, such a great illustration of the way that Australian survivor is keeping the traditions alive. Like this is as good as Casa de Charmin in the old days of survivor where they had an outhouse sponsored by Charmin as a reward. We've had so many great sponsored rewards and we just didn't get them anymore. Now you get Zach Brown fishing on survivor and I would take the IKEA meatballs any day. Yeah, survivor is one show where it's just perfect for a sponsored reward. Like that always goes over well no matter what. And it doesn't ever feel like overly inserted, especially here. Yeah. So. Get. And then you can even. Come on, brands, make a deal with CBS. I think that this is the second, at least the second IKEA reward, because last season they had an IKEA reward as well. But it was like comfort items for camps. It was a bunch of pillows that we're going to get soggy and moldy throughout the season. This one, I think, hit a little harder. Because who doesn't like the IKEA cafeteria? I love it. I will stop in there for dinner sometimes. I'm not even joking. They used to have the dollar ninety nine breakfast. Oh, I've never had the breakfast. Or what was the last thing you bought from IKEA? Tell everyone. Oh my God, it's been a while. I think it was something boring, like a light or something. Like a long time because they open that IKEA downtown in the aura building. And I was all hyped for that, but there actually isn't that much in there. So I think I bought a light. Yeah. I only go there to eat really. But then anything I buy from IKEA, I'm ordering online because I don't have a car. So yeah, it's the word. Dragging a couch down the street. What's the last thing you bought from IKEA? I bought a couch. Oh. That's good. That's a classic. That's such a classic IKEA item. No, I just remembered the thing the last thing I bought was not a light. The last thing I bought was a charger. So it's just like charging port that has all the different USB, USB-C. And it's nice. Kind of sleek. I've rested on my couch. I probably shouldn't say this on the record for insurance issues. But the thing is shortly after they recalled it because they've been spontaneously catching on fire. But I love this thing so much I refuse to give it up. So it's resting on my couch at all times. And honest to God, every time I'm not joking, every time I leave my apartment, I think, well, this might be the day it spontaneously combusts. I feel that I have a speaker that I bought that got recalled. And every day I'm like, this is just going to explode in my face one day. And there's nothing I can do about it because they warned me. Yeah, exactly. Everyone at home, let us know what you still own that has been recalled, that you're still using. I would like to know. It's really hard to give something up like that. Okay. Well, this is the reward where Simon raises this idea of his big bluff of going to rocks and it's going to play out throughout these three episodes and come to nothing, which I find interesting because Australian survivor has never gone to rocks. We've gone to rocks a handful of times in American Survivor, which is where you have a deadlock tie. The two people who are tied become safe and everybody else has to pull up rock and one person will randomly go home. This is how Tina's daughter went home in Blood vs. Water, which was a real shame because she was such a great character. I just watched this on a rerun of Vanna Watu as well with Kathy and they did not give a fuck about the rocks. It's so funny how far we've come with rocks because they were just like, yeah, we're going to rocks, whatever. Like, what if this is going home? It's fine. Kathy? Okay. Someone went home because of rocks. Maybe it wasn't Kathy. Are you talking about Marquesis? Oh, yeah. Sorry. What did I say? You said Vanna Watu. That was the first time they ever went to rocks was in Marquesis. And they literally did not care. They were so nonchalant. Pascal went home and Pascal later was, he was a judge, right? And he lost his job, was disgraced because he was like, I always want to say what he got up to and I can't remember where it was, but I think he was like harassing, sexually harassing somebody, some girl that worked at the office or something. He was doing harassing. Allegedly. And I might be wrong for legal reasons, but he did something. Something was up with Pascal. You know, some of the rock knew. Right. Yeah. The rock chose. The rock chose. And so he, so Simon's big bluff here is that like, I'm willing to go to rocks. And if anybody else is willing to join us to force this tie, I swear to you, whoever joins us, and he's looking at Jackson, I will take your rock as well. I'll take two rocks, which is completely not how the rules work and not allowed. But also what's funny to me about this is that Australian survivor, I think is like really loosey-goosey with the rules where they're kind of like, if the player comes up with something and we think it might make good TV, we'll let it slide. And so Simon's coming up with this bluff, but I could see a world in which David's like, go for it. Take two rocks. What do I care? Yeah, but I think it landed like, sure, that would have been a gag if that had happened, but I think this landed great. But I think this landed great, even though it didn't play out because he got to have that moment of being like, they don't know that that's not in the rules. But I do. Like it was such a nice moment for him. And I like that he's so desperate to make it to his 100 days that he's pulling out crazy stuff like that. Yeah, he's pulling stunts left, right and center. He's a stunt queen. Yeah, totally. And before we move on from this reward, I just wanted to point out that I love the reward challenge itself, where they have to all play in unison to like keep the tension on the rope while they go and put a stick on the middle piece. I'm not describing it very well, but watching Blanche try to balance on this meme was the highlight of the episode for me because coming back to the whole knocker's conversation, Blanche was, I think, too top heavy. Well, did you notice that David called out that Blanche has been a challenge beast this whole season? And this was her moment of faltering. Now, did you know that Blanche was a challenge beast all season? I think David must have been confused. I kind of want to watch it all back and be like, wait, maybe something was there. Remember last week I said that she was slaying the net when she's going through that tunnel? Yeah, you did say that. You didn't believe me. Well, David validated it. Yeah, the only moment I can really think of for Blanche in a challenge was when she laid down during the Mahindra Scorpio challenge and watched from the sidelines. I think she was out first or second. Challenge beasts need to lay down as well. Yeah, they put a lot of work in. Yeah. All right. Well, Simon ends up winning immunity in this episode, guaranteeing him 100 days of survival. It's a small group of people that can claim that. And so he is happy as a clam. We'll get more to that in the next episode. But basically what happens here is Ben and Jackson plan a split on Keeley and Brooke. It's pretty simple. And Simon basically says to them, like, I'll vote wherever you're going. At this point, Simon just wants to survive another day and see what he can do after that. But I wanted to note that because on my rewatch, I feel like a lot was made of this crazy tribal council. And during the tribal council, Simon agrees to vote for Brooke. Like he agrees to go and vote with the passengers. But he made this deal long before the tribal council because there was a part of me that was like Simon was blindsided by this double idol bluff slash play that Keeley and Brooke had going on. And he was clearly kind of like shaken up by it. But I don't think that's what pushed him to vote for Brooke. I think he was already locked in on voting with Ben and Jackson before they ever went to tribal council. I think he was in self preservation mode. It's really unclear from watching it, I think. I think he was going wherever the wind was blowing, which isn't a bad move for Simon, especially when you're in a three, when you're like three on however many there are. Three on six. Sure. Anyway, this tribal council was hyped up a ton. They were saying it was going down in the history books, best tribal council they've ever seen. And yeah. You completely skipped over how Simon won immunity and laws begging him to drop and then Sally trying to get him to drop and Simon telling Sally off. Do you want to talk about it? You know what? Let's just skip it. Let's skip it. I thought laws was I don't know what to make of laws anymore because I'm seeing glimmers of strategy. I'm seeing some maybe future, like some like little seeds being planted for the future for her, particularly around this women's alliance she's going to pitch in the third episode of this week. But like I'm I don't think we're getting enough of laws to really like understand where she's at because her whole thing with Simon is I just want the necklace and I promise you I'll give it to you at tribal council. I just want to win it and then I'll give it to you later. And it's like laws. I don't know you from a hole in the ground. I'm not going to give you this. Like what are you talking about? Yeah, well, I thought it was a big moment for laws, even though you tried to skip over it because I wanted to know like what the point what point what the point would have been had Simon dropped and given laws a necklace when she tried to make that deal with him that if he drops and lets her win the necklace, she will then give him the necklace. Like I want to know what she was thinking because unless she was lying, it's dumb. Yeah, I think that I think that she was lying. Like my read on it was like do this because she was playing up. I want my kids to see me win. I want to succeed. Just let me have this moment. I just want the moment. Like she was pitching it as though she just wants the moment. And I could see a world in which that could appeal to somebody. And certainly it seemed like she was also angling like with that when it came to the cinema reward this week where they got videos from home. And I think they were suspecting to get videos from home. And she was clearly like begging with her eyes to be invited on that reward. And I feel like she's playing this like family thing. I'm a mom. I want. I just want a moment. I just want a moment out here. And so that might be the angle she was taking. But if he gave her the necklace, I don't see any world in which she gives it back to him at Tribal Council. Simon was the target. Well, it worked on Sally. Well, Sally is on Laws' side. And Sally, speaking of the tide turning, Sally seems to have disappeared and Sally is no longer a front runner for me to win. It doesn't matter. She'll be back in a big way next week when she votes out Brooke and Keely in one in one tribal for one person to ever do it. Yeah, you're probably right. OK. Well, back to the big Tribal Council in episode 16. Look, I think they did the best that they could. I think that the real problem here was that the idols weren't identical and they were sitting next to each other. And so like the second anybody's like, can I see them together? The answer is no. No, you can't see them together. By the way, what did you think of the outfits at the rainy tribal? Because everyone was dressed to the nines. Well, this is the other thing is I feel like the whole thing gets kicked off by Brooke being like because they had been trying to woo Cameron over into Cameron and Jackson in particular and a little bit of Caleb. They're trying to get whoever they can to join their minority of three to maybe at least force a tie or get a majority. And it seemed like they might have had Cameron and then they sit down and Brooks like, look at Cameron, he's not with us. He's wearing Blanche's disco pink disco. Sally Sally's he's wearing. Oh, that's really a bunch. Yes. I think that's Sally's sweater because Sally was wearing someone else's sweater. Blanche was wearing that. Blanche was sweater like back on Baren Beach. I think he was wearing Sally's sweater. Sally was wearing someone else's gray sweater. I'm sorry. And Sally's me. Excuse me. Sally would never wear that. And Blanche was wearing a full on rain jacket. Yeah, we're checking that. I don't know if you noticed. I did notice that. That Sally sweater, it's come up before. It's come up before in past episodes, I swear. OK, I'm going to review the footage because I could have swore Brooks said he's wearing Blanche's sweater. But everyone was dressed up. Have you noticed Ben is now wearing. Wait, no. We'll get to that later. OK. But everyone was dressed up. They even had blankets. Yeah, which added to it. Yeah, the blanket that I don't know. I don't know where they're getting all this stuff. But Healy and Brooke were doing all their idle switcheroo under a blanket and it was like. Well, it would have landed better if it had been Mark's poncho blanket. That's what I was thinking. But Mark brought that back to Jerry Villa with him because he was showing it off in his Jerry Villa. Yeah, I want to say, though, I thought Brooke clocking Cameron like that was so good like that. That was a big tick for me with Brooke. Yeah, because Cameron is not an evil genius like that. He would not wear someone's sweater if he knew that he was going to vote them out. Was it Blanche's sweater? I swear, I'm look, I would bet money on it. Because no, Blanche has a pink t-shirt that says shine like a disco ball. No, that's not that's a sweater. That's the sweater. But Sally has like a pink hoodie that has like a butterfly on it or something. Oh, I don't know that one. Because OK. And then then there, you know what else is traveling around is that I thought it was Sally's, but it's like a homemade shirt that says like self love some self love club, but that whenever anybody's wearing it, the S is cut off. So it looks like it says Elf love club. It's like don't kink shame. Yeah, I'm not kink shaming here, but careful. Anyway, so these idols, they spook Ben and Jackson and they're like, OK, look, what if one of these is real? It looks like Keely's is real because she's actually showing hers off. So let's take the split off Keely and put it on to poor Blanche. And this is ultimately how Blanche gets voted out because, of course, Brooke and Keely are not dummies. And so they know where the vote is landing, like the majority vote. So Keely plays her real idol for Brooke. And then Blanche, just as she feared, was the cow that got thrown out of the tornado. What a way to go. Yeah, she was complete collateral damage in her rain jacket, but she's fine because she's cartwheeling off to get an espresso martini. She said she said she said she can't wait to have an espresso martini. She said, fuck that, I'm getting an espresso martini and going to a warm bed. Yeah. I think she was just happy to be there. Yeah, I think this tribal for Keely. I mean, how could you not be won over by her? Like, let's forgive all of her sins of the past because she did something that so many people are not willing to do anymore in survivor, which is to protect your allies and to take a risk. Because why not take a risk, especially at this point? Like, you're going to go home a loser. You're either going to get voted out or you're going to take her like it doesn't matter, like just take the risk. Wow, I'm really. I'm so, I'm so articulate, especially today. Yeah. Oh, let's make fun of the girl who took a risk. Exactly. No, but she no, I totally agree, because I was afraid there was that moment where Brooke was like, well, how are you feeling? And Keely was like, I don't feel safe. And I thought Brooke was just going to do sort of the noble thing to be like, OK, if you really don't feel safe, like play it for yourself. I couldn't have that on my conscience. But Brooke was like, no, I'm pretty sure the vote is on me. And they read it right. And Keely took the risk. And I like that. I also liked that Brooke actually played her fake idol because there is, I think, an unwillingness, generally speaking, to sort of like reveal, have the dodo moment of the host saying this idol is fake. But Brooke, I think, was just kind of like, look, I've exhausted all I can from this idol tonight. People know it's not real. Let's just have some fun. Yeah, let's close out the show. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta love that duo. Love that duo. Like what happened? What did you think of Mark's jury bench look? Really nice, really nice and tropical. Mm hmm. Yeah. Very dad on vacation. Yeah. And he looks like he's having fun, too. I think everybody's having a lot more fun. Well, he even got a line in that tribal. Yeah. That's supposed to talk over there. Well, it's Australia. Does you whatever they want. Everything's topsy turvy. The toilets flush a different way. OK. Oh my God. Did you see that Kylie Minogue is doing the AFL grand finale performance? I did see that, that famously Katy Perry did. I'm just in time for me to be a super fan of the AFL. Yeah. So we'll have to tune in. Maybe we'll do an episode recapping that. I hope so. If I keep you on. A live recording. If you keep me. So now you're threatening me. You're disparaging me to the boss, threatening me. Just to be clear, I'm the boss. I'm just on a work placement. I know. OK, let's keep going here because Simon has made it to 100 days. And I thought all of this was really funny. They really did like a dodo edit for Simon in this episode. It's like he made it to 100 days and they were like, we're going to do Simon's greatest hits where he feels like he's having his big moment. He feels like he's having his coach at Exile Island sort of moment of like, I've made it. It's 100 days. But everybody else is sitting around like Keely and Brook are sitting around being like, this guy's a wimp. How many times are we going to have to hear another speech from this guy? And then cut to him doing a speech. Yeah, he's their cuck. Yeah. I don't remember speeches being such a part of Simon's character, but this season they really are. He loves a speech. Yeah, I don't think he ever did a speech before. It's like he went and did a Toastmasters class and he came ready to give speeches left, right and center. Now, the effectiveness of the speeches. I don't think they're always landing. I don't know that they always have a point, but I just love to hear Simon talk. Yeah, like where I hope that he is going to be going on tour doing some motivational speaking engagements and speaking about his experience on Survivor because he's primed and ready for it, I think. Someone told him, you are the narrator of your own story. And he said, absolutely, let me write a speech about that. We also got in this sort of same moment where it was showing Simon making a fire. And then he was like, I mean, it's a hundred days. I think Jackson referred to Simon as their chief experience officer. They're CEO. It's the first corporate reference we've gotten in a bit. In a long time. And this really reminded me of what did Elizabeth Hasselbeck call herself when she retired? The chief breakfast officer, the CBO. The CBO. Yeah. So yeah, that's why she decided to leave Fox News, I believe. Yeah, she said she needed more time to be the chief breakfast officer at home. Well, yeah, I feel like this could be a new branding for Simon, this the chief experience officer can be part of his TED talks. Yeah, maybe he could get a job at head office. Yeah, for sure. OK, well, Simon does a lot of work on Jackson here to be like. And I think Simon's completely right. This is some of the most adept Simon playing that I've ever seen where he's like, Jackson, what are you doing here? You're just Ben's, you're Ben's cock. I'm Keely and Booth's cock. You're Ben's cock. Why don't we have a little cock alliance here where it's like you do something? Let's cock a lot. Cockle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride. And so he says to him, you need a move. And you know what? The only move you have right now is voting out Ben. And I feel like Simon really, really put in the work with Jackson. And ultimately, if we're giving claim to anybody on the Ben vote out, I give it to Simon. I don't give it to Jackson. I give it to Simon because Simon worked his ass off to get Jackson to vote Ben out. 100 percent. And I think it's even more impressive because I don't think that that was Jackson's best move. No, I think Jackson's kind of fucked now. I think he got completely duped by Simon. Yeah, I agree. So all the credit to Simon on that. I think it was like a wrong time, wrong place for Jackson to be doing that. Do you feel, though, that Simon is the most well-rounded player ever? Because that's what he's claiming it this week. I know. Hard to claim that. Look, it's really hard to claim that when you don't win. I think that the most well-rounded players tend to win the game. I think you can be a very, a very well-rounded player, but the most well-rounded player probably doesn't get voted out at this point. Still two weeks left. T. I do think he played a really good game, though. He played his best game. He slayed. He if he made it to the end, he absolutely should win. For sure. He played a better game than Mark. I said it. There I said it. Wow. Still haven't heard from Mark, by the way. Well, maybe he'll send me a DM next week. I can't believe I fell for that. You didn't, though. And I'm pissed because I wrote a whole paragraph. But this is what I'll say is the second you said, hey, mate, I would have called it out then. So you have as long. What do you mean? Possibly could have had me. I wrote it in his natural native tongue. He has lived in America for like 15 years. What the hell is he doing on Australian Survivor? OK. Well, we get I wanted to touch down on another Simon speech, which was when he won immunity again on that like paddle board that he had to balance the balls on. He wins and it's his 100th day and it's like a big landmark moment for him. And Jackson says speech and Brooks says surely not under her breath and then Simon gives what was, I think, the most incomprehensible speech of the episode, which was like, hey, guys, I want immunity. If you want to win immunity, you can too. Just keep trying. He yeah, I wrote it down. It was keep chasing this necklace. I'm still out here chasing my redemption. Keep trying. Oh, yeah, Sally's face after that. Oh, yeah, pull to face. That was the that was Sally's moment of the week. Yeah, I also loved Jackson and Ben snickering. That was funny. This challenge, I mean, always have to now this is my thing is pointing out laws is performance in the challenge. But laws almost took this one for a moment. And I really I laughed really hard because when she was kind of pulling away, you just hear Brooke go, oh my god, laws in disbelief that laws could win something. Well, here's the amazing part is that now that the two biggest challenge beasts are gone, Simon and Blanche, laws may be pulling out some wins. I mean, laws is Brooke's biggest competition now is laws. Yeah, true. So you never know what might happen. Look out. OK, so the returnees finally managed to pull off this Ben blindside by bringing Jackson, I guess. It's amazing how this all went down because Jackson went in, he was not going to be voting for Ben and Simon clocks this and Simon's like, hey, come, I need to talk to you. And Simon gives him this pep talk using wrestling analogies, being like, it's time to take the title, you got him against the ropes, all this stuff. And where we leave that is that Simon gives such a great line where he says, this is show business, baby. Like he is Jade Thurwall. It was genius. He was like, let me put this into terms. You'll actually understand. Big dummy. Yeah, so funny because he actually also in the episode at one point gave a similar sort of pep talk to laws, but the difference in his pep talk to laws is he basically was like, you know what, laws, you you ain't shit. You've done absolutely nothing. You were purpled for 75 percent of this game. And it's time you get off your ass and get a job and go to work. He's like, laws, you're getting the edit of a survivor 50 woman. Yeah. Meanwhile. And then Jackson, he's like, let's make this. Let's let's win the championship. Man, you got this. Jackson, he's like, let's make history, baby. Yeah. It's like, why would laws want to do anything for him? But what I loved almost as much as Simon's This is Show Business, Baby line is that Jackson says, yeah, it is. And this is my show. And I'm and I'm saying it's Brooke, which I was like, OK, we're fucked. We're fucked up. And then it's just that I think it's Brooke, maybe, that pushes him over the edge. I know I said I was giving this move to Simon, but Brooke really like tips Jackson over the edge, I think, because she's like, I've been on these juries, I've watched people go to the end and we're fighting. We're learning like this is this is sort of like a season long arc for Jackson of being like, wait a second, what happens in the end? Because last week he said, you know, I've learned a lot about this game. And I don't think people hold grudges at the end. And Simon was like, you need to watch some more survivor. And then here, Brooke really lays it out, which is like, I've been on the jury, I've seen people who have played the same games in the final tribal council who can't differentiate their games. They're sheep. And I'm not voting for a sheepy sheep sheep. And so I think she tips him over the edge. They really got in his head in an upsetting way. I was happy for them. But there's like there's no way Jackson is beating Brooke, Keely or Simon at the end. But him and Ben were like pretty evenly matched. And if anything, Jackson would probably win over Ben. Oh, I think Ben would have won over Jackson. Jackson's made more like public moves than Ben, don't you think? But I think Jackson has flip flopped more. And I don't think people would respect that as much. Ben's been like very level headed and been like, in your face, I'm doing this, I'm leading the revolt, etc. I think that's a stronger story at the end where Jackson, they would be like, well, Jackson, you had every opportunity to make a move and you never made a move. OK, but the fact that we're even debating it means that he should have kept Ben around because he should have kept Ben around. I do think he should have cut Ben at some point because then he can claim all of Ben's moves, plus he can claim the Ben blindside. It's just that now he's put himself into a position. He's put himself back into the minority, especially with Simon going home in the next round where it's like, wait, now Jackson's fucked over all the passengers. And he's stuck with like he's stuck with Keely and Brooke, like he's stuck on the bottom. Yeah. And the only people that Jackson should be going to the end with are the passengers. Yeah, exactly. And there could still be a path for him there. But he's still my winner pick. I got to tell you, I'm getting a little bit concerned. I think we've had two really great weeks of Australian survivor. I think it's had the opposite trajectory of survivor 50, where survivor 50s started really, really strong and Australian survivor redemption, I think, took a little time to build up. But I think now survivor 50 is on a downward spiral and Australian survivors on like it's like peeking at this point. I fear, though, it may have peaked because when I look at who's left, we've got too many passengers. And I feel like the only really satisfying end game is if Keely and Brooke or Keely and Jackson, if he stays loyal to them, can get to the end. Because if they just get picked off next week, I'm sorry, but Cameron. And I mean, I know we were hot on Sally, but Sally's disappeared. There could be a resurgence for Sally, but like laws. Like I'm not seeing. I don't have a fire is not lit in my belly looking at that group. I'm still hot on Sally and Caleb, by the way. Oh, yeah, for Caleb. He just was kind of in the background this week. But I think, well, actually, he had his big tick at the beginning. But I'm ready for laws and Cameron to go. Nothing against them. But I like everyone else too much now for them to go. So I would like to see them exit next. And then the other thing is I'm concerned we've only ever had one non elimination. And so usually we have like two or three and and they're never this late in the game. So I'm a little concerned. I haven't done the math of the number of episodes versus the numbers of players in my head yet, but I fear we may be getting another non elimination at some point here. It feels a little late in the game, but it could be a great way to save. Booker Keely, who do you think? Who do you think Sally can beat? I think Sally can beat. Sally can beat laws. Sally can be Cameron. I think Sally could give Caleb a run for his money. I think Sally could give Jackson a run for his money. Depending on the story she tells, I don't think that she can beat Keely or Brooke. I hope she makes it to the end just as I have been predicting because I want to hear. I bet you she would give a really good speech about her journey. Yeah, I think she could be a real dark horse at the end. OK, thank you for indulging me in some Sally talk. This has been Sally talk, Sally sessions. I know that you're delaying talking about the last episode because you didn't get a chance to rewatch that one, but we do need to run through it a little bit because now with Jackson's flip, we've got this like four four split and it's all rocks all the time. Everyone's like rocking around the Christmas tree or rock. What else? What else is rock? Rocky Balboa, Rocky Rocky. The boat is rocking. It's all rocks all the time. It's all knockers. No, there's like no more knockers left. It's just David. Just rockers. It's just David and it's knockers. But and this is where David gets his knockers out. He's almost like, you know what? Blanche and Simon went home back to back. I got to get him out. For the ratings, because this is where he wears his tank. Oh, yeah, actually, Sean, you sent me your notes and Sean wrote. Stop. It looks like we don't reveal notes on this show. DG's hot tank with three exclamation points. In an unprecedented reveal of the notes. Stop. Applications for next season's Australian Survivor Recap co-host are open now. Yeah, I hope you like unfair working conditions. Bullying. No HR. Yeah, no HR. OK. Sees and assists from Evan Ross, cats. Oh my God. OK. Well, let's talk about the Survivor Cinema reward because that's one place the rocks aren't discussed. Well, they are, I think, for a second. But this is a nice moment here where they get to go to the Survivor Cinema, which is a classic Australian Survivor reward. This is David actually has a very famous moment here where this was one. I think I talked about it last week, actually, where this was the version where they did the it was his season's version of the high T reward where they had to go into the cinema each one at a time and David's digging through a massive popcorn thing. I think you find something in it. But I knew something was going to be something had to be here. But they're all distracted by the videos from home. Now, I want to walk through the videos from home because we get some really emotional moments. We're going to we're going to just take them on what to toot or boot their family. OK, take it away. I feel like, yeah, let's toot or boot. Jackson's mom toot. I'm going to toot this one because it had a good story. I think on its own, if I just watched it, I'd be like, not the best video. It's not really in it. But once I hear the context from Jackson of like, oh, my God, he's got this estranged relationship with his mother. He dropped out of university three years into pursue wrestling. She didn't approve of his choice. He almost sounded like a gay kid. Like he sounded like a kid whose family shunned him for being gay, except replaced gay with wrestling. Yeah. And wrestling is like theater. It's kind of gay. He's a theater kid. Yeah. And so then it became a nice moment because it was like, oh, my God, my mom finally said something nice about me. Yeah. And so I liked that. We get Simon's daughter, Simon's little daughter. Toot. Toot. Oh, my God, toot. Anything that can get Simon balling. And Simon's been balling a lot to be clear. But this was the most genuine. And I actually, these, the older I get, the more the family stuff pulls on my heartstrings. So I thought this was really sweet. And his daughter was really cute. And then we get Brooke and Brooke's daughter. Boo. Just kidding. Toot. Toot. Two things, which I'm sure you'll reveal from my notes. Brooke's husband. Cute. Yeah, I actually, I looked them up on Instagram before and I did think. Yeah, they're a hot couple. Yeah. And they've got a very cute little daughter and Brooke was like, I don't even recognize her. That was sad. I know it was really sad. Now, Cameron. Oh, toot. I was going to boot it. Well, I mean, I like that it wasn't, they weren't like taking it too seriously. We got to see like a lot of family members. This was, yeah. Go ahead. Tell me why you boot it. The reason I boot Cameron's whole family. The reason I boot it is only because it's like we had these three emotional stories. Two were the same. Yes, but it's like I left my little baby at home and I'm feeling very emotional about it. And then you get this story I've never heard before about like I've got an estranged mom that like she hates that I'm a wrestler. Never heard that story before. That's new. Emotional. And then Cameron's family comes on and they're like, I don't know if they even really know survivor. And they're like, so you're on survivor and now we're going to list your phobias, you're scared of ants, you're scared of grass, you're scared of wind. And I'm like, we're not doing the most we can with our three minutes on tape here. I thought it was funny. I think it tells you everything about why Cameron is the way that he is. Well, that's fair. I don't know if Cameron knows that he's on survivor as well. So. And there's a reason that they put that one first. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So look, it's no no hate to Cameron's family. They look like they look like very nice people. It seems like they weren't well adjusted. Like family. We're all getting along like couldn't get my family together like that. Because I don't have one. Remember that Cameron? We're going to have to take a break. Remember how? Remember how Cameron is a boxer? Yeah, we'll seems like his family must have supported that the whole way through. Otherwise, we would have heard about it. Yeah, see, the problem is they're just too well adjusted. They're too well adjusted. We needed some I needed to find some cracks in the family for some. That's the real problem. So so that's why I boot that. OK, but then they're like, oh, all this talk of family since that. We forgot the mission here, which is we've got to tear this place apart to look for an idol and then Brooke finds her little idol, which turns out to be half an idol. Do you like the half an idol? I mean, yeah, actually, not always, but at this stage in the game, Brooke has found too many idols. So it's like, OK, yeah, let's mix it up. Let's up the ante for Brooke. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. She probably found a full idol and then the producer probably walked in and snapped it in half right in front of her and said, not the only thing is it makes me hurt because it's so exciting when she finds it because you're like, well, she needs this, she needs this more than anybody. And she just played this fake one and now she has a real one. Like how exciting. And then it's like, oh, it would be one thing if somebody, if like Cameron had found it and like Cameron's got the numbers right now. Right. So like he doesn't really need it that much. He might be able to pull something off with it, which could be exciting down the road. But like who needs it right now? Brooke needs it right now. And so for her to get it and then not actually have it is a little bit of a letdown, but I believe in Brooke. I believe in Brooke and Keely. If anybody can find the other half of the idol, it's those two. Right. And if they can't find it, they'll just make it. Exactly. If anyone can do it. I liked that Cameron caught Brooke in this moment because I think in the same way that Brooke brought out like the best in Keely, maybe Brooke can kind of bring something out in Cameron because I keep finding Cameron referring back to Brooke being like, oh, my friend, I'm Brooke. My good friend, I'm Brooke. And he invited her on the reward. You never hear Brooks talking about Cameron like that. No. But now Cameron has. Cameron's telling himself a story in his own head about his relationship with Brooke. Yeah. But now like maybe maybe some like odd couple thing is going to could happen there. Yeah. And they have that chat where he's like, OK, let's talk here because we could work something out and then nothing really comes of it. But this may be laying the groundwork for something to come next week. And there's a couple of things because there's that. And then there's laws and her pitch of an all girls alliance, which I'm a little unclear on her intention here because I think originally her intention was just to trick Keely and Brooke into voting out Simon. And yet I think laws likes the idea of the all girls alliance and with Simon out of the picture now, even if it wasn't the way that laws pitched it, like this could be something, especially because Brooke and Keely switched the vote at Tribal Council to save laws in the tie. And they're going to use that and tell her about it. Like this Black widow Brigade 2.0 could actually come to something. What about that? That's the way that Brooke and Keely can go to the end with laws and Sally. Oh, my God. Now we're talking. Yeah, but I don't want I don't want them to target Caleb. I can't stand I can't stand for this all girls alliance if that's the plan. I feel like Caleb is one of the girls. Keely wanted him out this episode. But like to me in my mind, Caleb is one of the girls. Also, there was the shot of Caleb. Caleb, not a lot of screen time this week, at least not that I was paying attention to. But he did have a classic YouTube shot where he did a back flip off of a stump. Did you catch that one? I'm sure I did. He stood up just on his own just for fun. He stood up on a stump in camp and then did a back flip off of it and didn't land the back flip. Looks like he could have twisted an ankle. But you know what? Caleb lives life on the edge and I don't think a twisted ankle would even take him out of this game. No, not at all. I bet you he pulled some pretty good April Fool's Day. Knowing him. I bet he did. Yeah. But I feel like for him, the line between prank and assault is probably like pretty thin, not assault. But like, you know, like, like coming back to the thumbtacks, it would be like, you know, I don't know who he lives with, his roommate or something. He would be like put down thumbtacks like on the floor next to his roommates bed and be like April Fool's. Wow, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure that he has a I think he's in a lovely relationship. Oh, good for him. But I'm sure once the show wraps up, that's when we find out that he's actually with Sally now. Right, of course. Well, there's going to be the proposal. Where am I even getting this from? I just opened his Instagram. I swear I saw photos of him with a lovely young gal. Well, he's probably wiped them all because he's about to propose to Sally. Literally, yeah, that's exactly it. They had to cut it off. I thought we could go to the live finale on April 10th. Filmed under the Sydney Bridge. Will Kylie Minogue be there? Probably. What else is going on in Australia? I'll send David a DM. You guys are in a crisis. I'm on my way. OK, well, I like that they did bring up the Black Widow Brigade. I like that they brought up Black Widow Brigade 2.0. I don't know whether they saw Australia versus the world before playing. I suspect they may have. And so this might have been on their minds. But then I liked because I think we throw around the term Black Widow Brigade a little too loosely and survivor like I think we need to stop saying that. But. They got the memo on that and they were like, what's the Australian version of the Black Widow? It's the Redback. I did a little research on the Redback. The Redback is a spider that looks exactly like a Black Widow. But do you know an interesting fact about the Redback? No, please tell me when the Redback mates. So the female is the one that does all the work. So she's like the Black Widow. Like she kills the prey and she eats it up. The men live on like the edges of the female's web and they eat the leftovers. And then when she gets pounded, she stores pounded. She stores the sperm in herself for two months so that she can have babies at her leisure. My jaw is a gape. My mouth for people at home. And then she'll lay 200 eggs. Oh my god. That's a lot. Not you coming for my job as a resident zoologist. Well, I know you told me that you couldn't remember this episode, so I had to pull out some facts. Wow. Redback, can I see a photo? They look a picture of Black Widow. Well, I can't. All I'm seeing is poverty's face. Redback. Redback Australia. Wow. This little cum guzzler. But speaking of cum, can I just say about Simon's exit is that the spellings on the parchment of the name Simon, like I know this is a running joke in the traders and sometimes in Survivor, but in sometimes an Australian survivor, you get some wacky names, right? You get your own laws is you get your key lease, which I know. I know key lease, not a wacky name, but there's like six ways you can spell it. Simon, how many ways are there that you can possibly spell Simon? Caleb spells it Simone with a knee on the end and then somebody and I didn't clock who when they were showing all the votes. But when I swear to God, when David was pulling the votes out of the urn, one of them said, Simon. Yes, I saw that too. What's going on? Open schools. I think they're auditioning for traders. I think so. Well, now that Australian traders is back, it's like. Simon. Yeah. So that's it. I mean, like they did, they did tie the vote and then Brooks saw her opportunity and struck and I think Brooke was right to do so. I think this was a good move for Brooke. Have we discussed the little monsters that Caleb draws on his votes? We haven't discussed them. No, well, pause up. No, I don't think that we've discussed them, but he's he's he's drawing a snake. He's drawing a snake because he was talking about how he's the snake that strikes first. He draws photos of Lady Gaga's biggest fans. That's the. You and me. It's a snake. I thought I thought it was a different monster. OK, no, it's a snake. I thought it was a red. Well, Australia is home to ten of the deadliest snakes in the world. Yeah. And the 11th one lives in Toronto. I'm looking at him. Shut up. All right. Well, we have seven minutes left, so I guess we do have time for a star or star list. It's actually six before we do that. Clock ticked. Do we have an emoji for this week? Should we do a monster emoji? You know, the devil has like a crazy face. Yeah. Should we do that? And yeah, let's do that. Our friend Caleb. All right, let's do this. Put your paws up emoji as well. Yeah, for sure. Is there a pause emoji? There was a face. Oh, but they also use the little pause like the paw prints. Sure. Yeah. Whatever you want. OK, star or star list? Blanche. Star. Star. Ben. I like I guess star list. Oh, I thought Ben was a star. You know what? He was a star because he did his Dr. Evil impression. Yeah. He he was like he I think he did that impression and it got a laugh one time and then he has been chasing the high of that laugh ever since and he was like, I'm going to work on me more times. That was the hottest he ever was to me. Simon. Star. Yeah, I would actually go. I think I think Simon Supernova this week. Yeah, he really did. I'm really proud of him. Can I know we only have five minutes left and we're playing Star Star list right now? But in terms of the Redemption's arc of the season, Simon got his redemption. When you look at the four people they brought back, Harry did not get his redemption. Mark, I'm not sure if he got his redemption. Probably doesn't feel like he did. Brooke seems like she never really needed redemption in the first place. She's known as a legend. Simon was the one that came into this as kind of like the dodo player and I think he got his redemption and he'll be the first one to give you a speech about it. I think you're completely right. I think that I agree with every point you just made and I'm not just saying that because I'm trying to wrap us up. You're right. Thank you, Sean. Mark didn't need redemption. Like Mark went to the end. Like he was fine. The only way he's fine. Like it's such a risk to say like I'm going to improve on my game last time when you came like one vote away from the Final Tribal Council because you can only improve on that if you go to the Final Tribal Council and then you run the risk of losing. So I feel like it's a really tricky place for Mark to be seeking redemption. I thought he did fine on his last season. He certainly played a lot more aggressively this time, but did he redeem himself? I don't think he needed redemption and I don't think he did redeem himself. Like you said, Brooke, I don't think she needs redemption. And Harry, if anything, he got knocked down a peg. Yeah. Harry almost needs redemption from this season. We're currently interviewing Harry for redemption to Electric Island and we'll let we'll let you know when callback start. Someone was mad that you forgot Eliza was on that season. We're in talks with Eliza right now and we'll let you know once callbacks get started. OK, moving on Sally. She was starless this week. Yeah, for sure. Laws. Starless rising. Yeah, I agree. Squarely. Squarely, starless rising. Keely. I'm Keely. I wouldn't say she supernovaed the whole week, but she supernovaed an episode and was a big star this week. Yeah, I'm leaning towards supernova because I feel like if you supernova once in three episodes, you should probably like earn that title. And her hammering away at that idol was that's going to go down in history. Yeah. Yeah. She's she slayed this. And then Jackson. Star. Yeah, I'll give him a star. Cameron. Like, I don't know, starless rising. Yeah, I you know, I would give him a starless rising because something's brewing. I can see it coming. And I as even though I booted his family, I'm still thinking about them. His family specifically. Yeah. Caleb. Caleb, my love was starless. He was starless this week. And finally, Brooke. Brooke supernovaed. Wow. OK, yeah, I'll give her a supernova. Brooke has such a like stunning look. I think she's a very beautiful woman. Yeah, she is. When both smiles, the world smiles. Exactly. All right. OK, I got to wrap this up. Thank you so much. Well, we still have one minute. Stop. I need to get my snack. All right. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week for 7. Bye. Bye.