EXPERT ANALYSIS: Emory Hunt Joins To Discuss NFL Draft & Chicago Bears | CHGO Bears

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I see this every year, but I prefer Friday night. Friday's fun. I think Crystal might be coming Friday and we might even stay in the city and we'll take our ride share. Crystal Friday. Wherever we go. Well, I like the music. There's music on after the thing. It's just it was a great deal to do on Friday night a draft weekend. You're gonna be paying attention to draft anyway. Spend 10 bucks. Come to the bar. Exactly right. Bottom line, $65 to all you can drink on a Friday night. That's like highway robbery. That's a steal. I mean, like can't can't even think about doing that, but you can do it at our draft party, especially at a bar like Joe's on Ween Street. Yeah, yeah, it'll be it'll be a good time. Jacqueline will not be there, but maybe she'll come on Thursday. All right. So more importantly than that, we got Emery Hunt to start the show here today. CBS Sports HQ. He is a draft guru football game plan. He's got a draft guide that's extremely extensive. So, yeah, we actually taped this a little bit earlier so we could tell you right now in advance that this interview is awesome. I honestly, I would hire this guy to be a general manager. Listen to him talk today. He's that good. I'm not kidding. Would you like that? This guy's phenomenal. Yeah, the bowls. We can use one right now. Okay, fine. We'll leave polls polls. If you Ryan, you're doing a great job. We're not to put. Yeah. Well, there's other somewhere. I'm just every hunt could be a GM in the NFL. You could be a GM in the NFL. Yeah, assistant GM. And instead he's on with us, which is good right now. All right, let's bring in Emory Hunt. Yeah. CBS Sports. Yeah. CBS Sports HQ owner of football game plan. You can get his draft guide at footballgameplan.com. You've probably seen his work all over and Emory does a great job. So we're pleased to have him here on CHCO bears. Emory, getting closer and closer to this draft. Is the hay in the barn for you? Are you still you still making those final adjustments? No, once the draft guide is complete, that's it. That's my thing. You know, I went to all nine all star games, watched all the film. I needed to watch on these players and put together the largest, most comprehensive draft guide that has the most scout reports in it. More than anyone's draft guide out there. I can say that confidently because again, there's over 1200 players in it. That means there's over 1200 pages. So that's that's what you want. If you're a draft person, when you're doing a conference, you're doing a comprehensive look like that and you hear and it's kind of been parroted so many times this off season that this is a weaker draft class. Do you take exception to that in terms of people maybe not doing the same amount of homework that you're doing bingo? Because if someone would have purchased my draft guide since 2020, right now, they would have over 6600 individual scout reports at their disposal, which means you have a good gauge on the entire league. So for someone that goes as deep as I do in terms of the evaluation process, it's always a deep draft class. Sometimes you may have to dig a little deeper. And if you only go to the shrine, seeing you're in combine, of course, your view is limited. But if you expand that to the college you're down showcase to the American bowl, to the Hula bowl, to the HBCU legacy bowl, to the East West bowl up in Canada, like you're going to see so many dog on prospects. And you're going to be excited about these players, man. Even guys that don't know all start games that are that their eligibility is done. You see the depth throughout the class and you can understand why someone like myself always gets decided about the draft because you can really see the. I tend to look at it like, man, I got seven picks to get seven starters in, in my, on my football team. I don't see it as, Oh, after the second round, these are just throw away picks. No, there's gold in them. There he goes as the saying goes. Do you just to underline one more time or do you look at it like there are, I don't know, five blue chippers that you would say, I think these guys are going to be perennial, probable potential Hala famous. And like that's, that's what people keep saying that at the top end, the draft is light. Well, for me, it's, I would say for me personally, eighties and above are those quote unquote blue chip guys that are, that I would grade as a future pro bowler at some point in their career. And those are about 17, you know, you know, you don't, you don't really give that out to everybody. And so there's a good crop of guys, the rest of them are guys that I feel like that can help you out, be solid starters, be contributors. And that's fine. Cause that's ultimately what the NFL is. It's the majority of those guys. And on the other small end of the bell curve is those blue chip type of purple type players, but the league is made up of that big bell in the middle. Um, and that's what the draft class is. So all right, 17 of those guys, the team we cover here in Chicago is picking 25th. We can, you know, let's like, I mean, honestly, though, like in that range, you know, typically one of those 17, cause everyone's boards are going to look a little different, right? Right. Like, so there's a chance that one of those guys is still there at 25. But as, as you evaluate this thing and, and look at it from that bear's perspective, like who, what's a, what could be still a good option of if one of your 17, you think it may be still be around there for the Chicago bears? Well, it depends. Cause here's the thing. This was about maybe three or four years ago. My number one combo safety, maybe it was three years ago, my number one combo safety went undrafted. And so he ends up signing with the team, ends up becoming the starter and a pro bowler. And now, and now he's with a new team where new head coach brought him over. And that's our Darius Washington of the Baltimore Ravens where he went, he went undrafted out of TCU. I was just a big fan of his game and what he put on tape. So obviously my view is going to be different to tie it to the bears at a high grade on Isaac Trapillo. He didn't go in the first round at a good grade on Theo Bennett, because I saw him at UBC, um, you know, multiple years. Uh, so for the bears, if I'm looking at what they need and where they can go, it all depends on what position they feel. I feel like they are, you know, they can, they can use. I think if they want to go, um, receiver, they could, you know, whichever receiver they feel like fits best. If they want to go, you know, interior offensive line, I would, you know, considering we got the all the big shock, um, this all season, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Cause I told people before, you know, big tackle propaganda has kind of fool people thinking tackle, tackle, tackle, and really guards in a guard is where you have successful offense. And if you are not stout there, you won't have protection, a pocket to step up in a run game to speak of. So even if they want to shock people and go center, I wouldn't even be upset with that. That's why I got like Caleb. A low mode could make sense. Or, you know, someone they feel like can move to center, uh, will be there as well. So I just feel like the bears can go in many different spots because, uh, they've done a good job the last two seasons of, you know, stockpile in their roster with talent on both sides, even if they want to go corner, um, and add more depth there. I feel like people are going to be sleeping on the Angelo Ponds, um, just because he's five eight, but he plays, you know, bigger than his size. You know, so I feel like the bears do have a, a, a bevy of options at their disposal. Well, yeah. Shout out to you, by the way, for, for Theo, if you, if you, you found Theo, um, as the bears did, but as an undrafted free agent. Um, yeah. Cause his story up in Canada is crazy. So let me ask you this. I know you don't want to give, you know, away all your secrets. People should be checking out football gameplan.com and getting the draft guy. But I mean, can you tell us about a guy right now that you feel, you know, your feel better to the, this year that you feel like you've evaluated, you've seen most haven't, um, that is really a big sleeper in this draft. I was shocked that not a lot of people are talking about Kentucky's guard jail and farmer. Um, he's my number one guard in his class. And when I, when I look at Lyman, uh, any position, the first thing I look for is technique, cause technique is going to carry you further than anything. You know, as you age, speed drops off, you're exposing this drops off, but your technique will keep you staying and key. That's the foundation and his technique is flawless. His hands stay inside feet. Always come with them. He's always getting movement. And I thought like, man, this, this is one of the more consistently, technically sound, uh, guards I've seen. And so man, this, I just liked the way he plays everyone. And then you watch the Georgia game where you're going to get a true one to one. Cause everybody on Georgia's team is built the same. Um, they are built like nobody else around the country. And so you're like, he's moving these big dudes about the way consistently. At distance, someone that is, I think matches up well to the NFL level. I think people are now viewing him. What is a day three? I listen, I don't care. Um, that's someone that is, that's the one dude. I would say no one is, is as high on this as I am about him. And again, I'm a big Mansour Delaney fan too. Um, cause the reason why I like him out of LSU, the cornerback is because, uh, I hate bell technique. Um, cause so many DVs try to do it, but they suck at it. And cause they can't get back to the ball once the ball is strong, but Delaney can do it. He clicks and closes and back that way and able to turn the ball over. He would have picked the ball off, can play inside, field side, boundary side, slot corner. He can do it all. Um, you know, that's one of those other players that I would say, yo, these, him and Monroe Freeling are my three guys in terms of like, I got high grades on. Who do you like as a defensive tackle Emory that, uh, falls in the, you know, 25 to 125 range that potentially is there for the Bears? Well, it's sad because if he's healthy, he's not going to be there. But that's the, therein lies a problem. Cause we've seen this before with big guys with foot problems all the way. And, you know, going into basketball, you know, that's what doomed Greg Oton. Um, and you know, someone like Caleb, uh, Banks from, from Florida, you know, and it's funny I grade him as my number one defensive tackle, even though he's built like a nose tackle that speaks volumes of his burst and it's an explosiveness off the ball. My number one nose tackle is McDonald from, oh, uh, Katie McDonald from, um, Ohio state, just phenomenal up top. Him and Kristen Miller of Georgia, comical at how this is dominated, you know, opponents, uh, big citrus, Dominic orange. Another one has built like a nose tackle, but he's my number three defensive tackle, uh, right behind Peter Woods of, of Clemson, who's built like your standard defensive tackle. But orange is someone I was shocked at how consistent his pad level was, his hand placement and how strong he was and how quickly he disengages from blocks and watching Peter Woods was someone that I was just frustrated with for him. Cause it's like, man, why, why are they moving him around? You know, but now when you look at it from, okay, what can he potentially be as a pro, you know, okay, I like that they moved him around. Uh, cause now I get to see him, you know, as an edge. I could see him as a, as a one tech. I could see him as a three. Um, but man, we talk about down the line, Caleb Proctor, uh, southeast Louisiana did exactly what you're supposed to do as a small school prospect. You dominate in the games versus upper level competition. I thought he did exactly that against LSU, uh, Louisiana tech. So anytime they played, um, a team above them, he was able to show up and show out. So that will be someone down the line that could be, uh, there that could help you out instantly upfront. What am I missing on Lee Hunter? Cause when I look at him, I see a big dude who is moving awful well. I'm like, this guy's gotta be, I would bet that he's going to become a problem if he can stay healthy, uh, which hasn't been really an issue for him. But, but people don't like him because of the vertical or I'm not exactly sure what I'm missing cause I like him. It that, see, you just said, you just said a mouthful right there because why are we even counting exactly what we're seeing from the combine with a defensive tackle? Cause if you go and watch the Oregon game, play one swim over guard, blow off the running back. It was like, yo, all right, see enough rubber stamp. I'm good. Like, so that's exactly. What you give for Lee Hunter, the football player. That's what you want to see. Uh, someone that can go out there and do what you expect a defensive tackle to do. If I'm, what, if I'm drafting a defensive tackle based on how I worry about his vertical, get me out of the football business. Like I'm worried about the dude that's doing the thing that I'm a draft him to do the thing for, for my football team. That's where a lot of, um, uh, teams with that's where a lot of evaluators with, um, we, it's so funny to watch the whole conversation during the season. It's all about tape, tape, tape, tape, tape, tape. And then once we get to February, it's all about metrics, metric. It was like, yo, you just said it was about the tape. Um, and now you're worried about non football drills, nine football events. Um, and make it make sense. Lee Hunter, you, especially when you just were just hyping up his reps one on one at the senior bowl, now you forget all that because he jumped whatever he jumped at the vertical and now what you just saw live in football drills don't matter because of how he jumped in shorts in a tight shirt. Like I just don't get it. Like make it make sense for me. So yes, I am all aboard the Lee Hunter train as well. You know, uh, Emory, I, what really stood out to me when you were kind of reeling off some guys earlier, you talked about Fran Duffy is our all city draft guy here with what we do across five different cities. And you guys do such an amazing job. And yesterday we were talking with some diehards and he, he singled out D'Angelo Ponds and, and I think cornerback has become somewhat of a sleeper picked there at 25 with the Bears and losing to Sean Wright. You still have Tyreek Stevenson and Jalen Johnson coming off, you know, an injured year last year. What is it about D'Angelo Ponds? I know he bawled out. They want a national championship. He bawled out in that game as well. So we all saw it on the, the, the big stage, but what is it about that? I'm starting to hear from you guys that this, this should be the guy that bears should take potentially. Um, football to start to get back in vote. Cause if we can go 11 months with no February, people will just stay strictly about the tape cause February happens and now people like, Oh, I mean, he's five, eight, like you just sat there and watch them dominate a full American college football season. And now you're worried about him being five eight, cause what he was doing out there on the field in actual games had nothing to do with him being five eight. It was about his eyes, his technique, his instincts, his ball skills and his toughness. And when you look at him, um, being an outside corner, cause I have him as my number one field corner. So I trust him on the outside. Um, I'm not going to, you know, stereotype him and pitch in the hole him to being a slot guy because of his height. I feel like he can play on the outside because we, you know, I grew up in the arrow, I watched Aaron Glenn play on the outside. I watched Daryl ring play on the outside. I watched Frank Menafield play on the outside. You know, so. Hi be damn that, that guy can play cornerback and I love his ability to understand the situation. If you go back to Ohio State game and watch him play, uh, bill technique, which I hate, but he plays it properly. He allowed the catch for the catches for, you know, Jeremiah Smith, but then he did exactly what you're supposed to do in that technique. Go make the tackle and it was ball caught. No extra yards made the tackle. Then once they got inside the green zone, they try to, you know, set up the fade ball. He took that away because he got great techniques. So now you can't even try to use your height advantage on him because he is taking away the, the fade ball. So that shows you he understands spatial awareness, understanding situational football. And that's why you're starting to see people come around to saying like, okay, this is a legit first round type corner. Got to give a shout out to Xfinity as a proud customer of Xfinity at the Braggs household. 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Just because you've mentioned it a couple times now and some of our listeners might not know what that means. Can you explain the bell technique? That's when you're playing off and you're kind of running with your back to the receiver kind of, you know, almost like you're keeping an eye on it, but you're kind of in case he takes off down the field during a good position, just to go ahead on and just run. But if the ball comes short, you can kind of break, plant and go back and get the football. The problem is people over estimate their hips and their agility. Like if you can't play bell technique, don't do it. But I know it's sometimes coached. Like some people do bell techniques. Some people play trail technique where they kind of allow the receiver to get in front of them because they trust in makeup speed. But if you slow, why are you even trying to play trail technique? You know what I'm saying? So you see that a lot. So that's what bell is. That's what the difference between bell and trail. And you have a shuffle technique where they're playing often to kind of shuffle, shuffle and keeping the play in front of them so where they can just plant and go and get the football. So important. Yeah. And Emory, that's why I keep telling my coach here, Mark Carver, and he's always overestimating his hips on the tennis court. That's that's his. And my and my bell technique is going to Taco Bell and dropping $32 and 48 cents on a nice, nice meal. Well, we have this. We still have this argument in college when we were playing pick a basketball, right? And one of my good friends on the team, we were like, like he's like six three. And so obviously I'm like, all right, bro, getting the paint. He's like, he's like, now I want to hand the ball. Like, bro, get your big button to paint. He's like, man, I'm six three. If I was an NBA, I'd be a guard. I'm like, technically you right, but get your big button to paint, man. Like, let me handle this ball. Like, we don't need you playing technicality. I'm being, I hear in a perimeter. I need you to body up this dude in the paint. So under understand your height and size in conjunction of what you're doing. KYP know your personnel. Shout out, pick a basketball. My favorite thing in the history of my life. Okay. I'm going to link all this together because he won't mind me telling this because it's it's it was a long time ago. You know, it used to do that all time playing. I used to play pick a basketball with Martellis Bennett and that dude, all he wanted to do was shoot threes and play point guard. I'm like, you're Martellis Bennett, dude. Get your ass inside and just dunk on people. What are you doing? That's different though. He's got to stay healthy. He doesn't need to be getting physical and pick up. Oh, he didn't care about all that. He was going 110%. Well, that's a problem too. All right. Let me let me let me bring up. I'll reel us back in here. I'll name one corner that I just got excited about here, Emery. Chris Johnson, smaller school, but you know, the Bears have a Johnson playing corner. I don't know if Jalen's going to be here and then I look at Tyreek. I don't know if he's going to be here. I'm trying to you're talking about pounds, but I liked what I saw here with Chris Johnson. Seems like a dude that's going to be able to play in the league for a long time. There are certain schools that I have earmarked as sight unseen. So if you in positions, if you told me you got a San Diego State defender or offensive linemen, cool sight unseen. I'm in K state offensive linemen, sight unseen. You told defensive player, offensive linemen, sight unseen. I'm good. You know what I'm saying? Raging Cajun football analyst, sight unseen. You get, you go and grab that guy, right? So I like Chris Johnson. He actually reminds me of my colleague, Brian McFadden and how technically sound he is. They're about the same size, six feet, you know, a little bit over six one. And Long arms, patient, great awareness can play off coverage well where he's given the receiver a chance to get off the line, but he reads, reacts and they will cut the receiver off and make a play on the ball. That right there in of itself is just outstanding. Just having the patience of knowing when and where to be aggressive. A lot of cornerbacks get panicky when they're in coverage and that leads to them misjudging their break or not judging the ball in the air. You don't get a panicky player from Chris Johnson. You get a sound player, technically sound player that's judicious and when and where to be aggressive. He's got some pick sixes. Are you, you're, you broke up when you said it's comp. Who, who, who are you comparing him to? My colleague at CBS Sports HQ, Bryant McFadden, former Pittsburgh stealer. There we go. There we go. Can we, I was quite an edge rusher because that's, we've talked a lot about the edge rushers here in Chicago. It's, it's an interesting class. I don't know if it's top heavy, but there's a lot of guys. I mean, in this, in this group of, of edge rushers that maybe the barracks should get anywhere between their 25th pick and their third round pick, who really stands out to you that you've fallen in love with. Mason Rager of Wisconsin, you talk about someone that took advantage of his opportunity to ball out at an all star game. And I know that could be a snapshot of what a guy does, but you go and watch his entire career at Wisconsin. And there it jobs with what we saw at the shrine bowl, three sacks at the shrine bowl, defensive MVP, six, four, six, five, two, 50 plus can really move very fluid. I feel like Aiden Hubbard is an underrated player out of Northwestern, Western, right in your backyard. Kind of reminds me a lot of Connor Barwin and how he attacks and gets after the quarterback. Our Mason Thomas, you know, situational guy, but a his situation is very good. If I, if you are a pass rusher and I can bring you in situationally to do your thing, do your thing. I know people also, you know, or have mixed feelings about this next player, Harold Perkins, but a last time I checked, like, I just need you to do your one thing rather well, go be fast and get the ball. And he does that better than a lot of people in this class. And he can, you know, rush from the outside, he can be inside blitzer, but you like his, his ball awareness and ball instincts. And those are some of the edges that I've become fond of primarily in this class. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I mean, the Bears certainly need help on that defensive line. They had trouble getting to the quarterback last year. You know, one, one position that I keep getting hung up on is left tackle. You mentioned that you were big on Ozzie Trapillo and Theo Benedict coming into their drafts. You mentioned that it's more about the interior of the offensive line for a lot of teams in the NFL to be successful. That being said, Ozzie Trapillo had a pretty, pretty tough knee injury that's going to set him back about 12 months. It looks like Theo Benedict still in there and has a shot. They brought in Jedrick Wills. They've got, you know, a Braxton Jones still there, but I'm just curious, your perspective, would you be willing to push your chips in on one of these left tackle options at 25, whether it's Monroe Freeling or Caleb Lomu, you mentioned him, you know, Caden Proctor, if he were to fall from Alabama, would you, would you go in on left tackle if you were Ben Johnson? It depends, man, because Freeling would be, you know, obviously the number one tackle, in my opinion, because he's a true left tackle. You know, and the reason why I'm chuckling is because, you know, we kind of, everyone's kind of focused on the first round, which I got a running list of things in life that was a mistake. Number one is speakerphone. Clearly, we weren't ready as a human civilization for speakerphone. That no one is going to top that. You know, we probably should do away with that. But my drafts got to be like number three, because everybody gets focused on the first round, they misses the vastness of the class, because they'll think if we don't get a Monroe Freeling, or if we don't get a Caleb Lomu, then we suck. We suck again. Like, no, there's good players out there. Obviously those guys would be great options, but if you bypass that and you're looking down the line, you know, the Mietro's Cronover of A&M, big body guy that can move and very good as well. You think about Markel King, big mammoth tackle from Miami, played opposite side of Francis Maui Noah. That would be a good pick if you're not trying to force it at, you know, early in the first round. But yeah, obviously, if for whatever, if Freeling is there, when the Bears pick, something went wrong in the previous 24 selections. Lomu, I get people are concerned about him, but I feel like for him, his issue is he gets to be a waistbender, which means he doesn't always bring his feet with him, which is, which leads to him not having leverage, which leads to him getting beat by swim over moves and not having a power. So that's why people are concerned about him. And some may see him as more so of an interior lineman. But man, you talk about Cronover, you talk about, you know, someone like that, that can help you out long term in that you don't have to force the issue in the first round, Markel King as well. Then I think you'd be fine. Emory in a vacuum, as Greg likes to say, would you, let's say one of the top two safes are available for the Bears at 25. Are you attacking that spot there if you're Chicago? Or are you like, Hey, there's plenty that we can get later. Let's address something else. Um, I will, you talk about a top two safety. So that means downs again, if downs is there, then something would extremely take one. Yeah. Yeah. No, not downs. Take take downs out of there. I'm talking to the end of it or my bad. If the end of it or Warren are there, one of those two are there. Are you, are you drafting a safety at that point? I would, I would take the end of it over Warren. I feel like the end of it has a little bit more juice. Um, and I would even think about Kilgore more so than Warren. Jalen Kilgore that is out of South Carolina. Kilgore gives you a little bit of that, that versatility that you want nowadays, where he could cover a slot receiver, a bigger slot receiver, a tight end kind of match up. But Kilgore's game reminds me a lot of, and it's not a true one to one, but it's about how someone can be a corner and now play safety, but give you corner like ability. And that's an entrell role. You know, same type of size, good awareness, good ball skills, good off the ball, great ability to play one on one. He would be an option. I would also look at someone like trading stokes of Arizona kind of gives you a little bit of that as well. Some may see him as an outside corner, some may see him as a safety. I see him as a kind of hybrid where you can have, you know, the best of both worlds. Warren is also a good option. I wouldn't go first round with Warren. I feel like there needs to be a little bit more. I think he's more of a second round type pick than a first round pick. First round pick, you need guys that can, you know, hit it and go right away. And that's why the end of it is interesting to me because of how well he plays now. If you want to go later, maybe outside of that crop of guys, Wiz Nuski is another one that people underestimate how his, how great his feet are. He has great footwork for a strong safety. So now you can kind of match him up against his height in, in the slot if they want to go big and trust him to make a play, you know, because again, you're still good versus a run because he played, he was a former linebacker. So he still has linebacker technique, but also has the footwork of a safety. Yeah, it's interesting. You brought up Jaylen Kilgore. I was just on the phone with my buddy Shane, who's just as into the draft as you are. And he brought up Kilgore and to the same point you made about how, you know, these guys that corner turn to safety, he compared them to Kobe Brian, who the Bears just brought in from Seattle. So that's interesting, man. When I start to hear you guys who dial into this and I start to hear the same things, you know, kind of in different ways, that's where, you know, the, the lightning bolt kind of goes off for me. And, you know, as much as I do look at, I like the, I'm a Purdue guy, you know, I'd love to see the, you know, on the Bears, but if you can get that guy later in the draft, you might be able to get a better position and eat early on. And that's where you kind of want to focus. Like for me, I'm always looking at the first round in terms of how can you strike fast immediately. I know some parts of the draft, you think in terms of development, a lot of times we talk about quarterbacks in the first round. But man, when we're talking about first round, we're talking about, I need you to be at your floor. Your floor needs to be right there by the ceiling. Like I need you to be plug and play, go get it. Everybody else, I'm willing to lower the floor a little bit and give you a little bit more of a leeway. But first round, I need to have as little questions about your ability to step in right now and go as possible. Emory man, appreciate it. Love how much respect man, I appreciate how you get really deep into, you know, the weeds with some of these prospects and maybe the, you know, the, the everyone else isn't necessarily talking about find those sleepers. It's great stuff. CBS sports HQ. Emory knew back in the day that Tyson Bayesian on draft, that's ridiculous. He should have been the second. Oh, I'll tell you this. As soon as this young man caught that touchdown pass, guess who had the scout report up telling people he was good from, from a while ago because he went to Grand Valley State as Jody Walker. Nobody knew who he was. We had a great owner and we knew who he was going because he was like, well, why he was didn't have the production that text saying up because he was balling that Grand Valley State and I graded them based off that too. So thank you guys all day. Jody. That's awesome. Emory Hunt owner of football game plan, CBS sports. And make sure you go check out the, the draft guide football game plan.com. Thanks, man. Appreciate you guys. Hey, shout out to our friends at comment script to have comment back on the program. We are all looking for ways to stand out and work. I mean, I just do it naturally because of my immense talent and brilliant takes and Sure, for comment sake, sure. Some of us do it naturally by just showing up and looking awkward. And then there's comment. Nice to say about Hogue. No, no, no. This is just an elite individual that the comment really is talking about. 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They're all part of that Marvel universe. I actually think there needs to be more rivalry in there. They're all friends. Really? There's no rivalry. There's got to be rivalries. Try to bait one of them to get into a fight at the Starbucks next year. There was no Starbucks fight this year, was there? No, that's what I'm saying. Disappointing. Is Mel Kuiper friends with all of them or does he sort of take on like a senior, none of you are as good as me, Rol? Does anybody know? I've never met Mel Kuiper in my life. I want to meet Mel Kuiper. All right. That was the draft talk for today. Hope you enjoyed it. Let's let's move on to some NFL news. Apparently replacement refs are just getting closer and closer to potentially happening. Oh, you want to update everybody on what the news on the replacement refs are because the NFL is not valuing the actual refs? Yeah. Well, first of all, I mean, like I think this is part of this is pressure that the NFL continues to put on the NFL referees association. You know, but I also think part of it is them covering their ass in case they need to actually have replacement refs. So yeah, there was a memo that went out to teams basically saying, you know, starting June 1st, they're going to start assigning some of these replacement refs to OTA's training camp to get them reps with teams and then teams will be able to give their feedback too. So I mean, this is a long complicated way of saying, hey, this is your tryout. If you're a college referee that wants to potentially get your shot here, I think it's an awkward spot to sort of be in because I also think like reps probably want to band together here a little bit and you want your shot at the NFL, but Don't want to cross the line. You're filling in and then you're, I don't know, but at some point you got to look out for yourself at the same time. I just, I think this is a slippery slope. The NFL is holding firm on their stance. No surprise here. They, you know, always try to bully the players association and the referees association and typically to their credit, the NFL is in a stronger position to negotiate and stand on their ground. And I think that's part of what's happening here. To get away from some of all that, the complicated nature of it and probably the part that the fans care more about is if we actually get the weak point, the players are going to get the weak point. And there's replacement referees. We went through that disaster once. Now what sort of got glossed over at the owner's meetings was this little rule, as I always like to say, they can do whatever the hell they want whenever they want. And they did pass this little rule this year that essentially says, if there's replacement refs, we can rule out, we can make whatever call we want from New York. Right. Now it's not quite that simple. There are some parameters to it. It's not quite every single rule, but it is essentially to simplify, put in place so that if we do have to have replacement refs and if those replacement refs suck, then we can come in over the top from New York and correct these calls, which if we get to that point, they, I think fans and teams will appreciate getting the calls right. But it all, I hope we don't get to that point. It doesn't sound good right now with the negotiations, the way they're going. The idea of replacement refs. I don't know. Slightly uninformed question number one, the people that are in New York who are watching plays on replay, are they not in the same umbrella of union or whatever as the refs themselves? Yeah. You know, that's a great point. And I don't necessarily know the answer to that, but I, I think the, I'm thinking about, yeah, I mean, you're fewer. Who's doing that job? Because I know they would be out of there because they would, you know, if you're in charge of officiating for the NFL, you work for the NFL now. I mean, you probably could hire Greg Brex to do that job and you could sit in that room and be like, that's a hole. That's a, you know, you're not going to be able to do that job. I would love that freaking job. I'd love that job too. Would you cross the line? Would you cross the referee line? They're like, oh, we need you in New York. We'll pay you way more than you're getting paid at CHGO. Temporary. Hey, look, we, we need another month here to, to figure out the ref thing. They're going to cave in a month. You know they will. Can we borrow you a month? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can we borrow you? Well, I, I, I would do it for a month. I'm sorry. You guys will miss. It'll be fine. Steven, you think we'd be able to figure it out or I mean, what? I think Hogue would do such a good job. We'd never see him again. I think, I think what I find interesting and obviously, you know, you're right that fans only care if, you know, whether or not replacement refs are going to be their week one. Because we saw how this went the last time it came around. Now there is kind of a funny memory for Bears fans because the most coveted moment of the replacement rest was the fail Mary week one opening night Seattle versus the Packers and it screwed the Packers out of a win. So I, I'm actually kind of partial to the replacement mess because it's like the Packers fans off every time you talk about it. But this, I mean, the pay part of it is interesting to me because I just think there's a lot of things that we don't understand as fans with them. We, I think most fans would think they are full-time employees and they're not. And, and I did see Andrew Brandt was on the Ross Tucker podcast and he said, and a quote from the referee's point of view, why would they be full-time if the pay does not equal what they make now between NFL and plus their full-time job? These are lawyers, they're judges, they're, they work in aerospace. They don't want to be full-time unless the NFL pays them similar to the NBA refs and the major league baseball refs and the NHL refs, which they don't. And so like that part of it, I think most fans, including myself, I think guys are judges and aerospace. What are the average? So this is interesting too. And I want to shout out Rob Schwartz, friend of the program, die hard, whole bit in our chat all the time. He talked about the average of what you're asking. MLB UMPs for a salary make around $450,000, 140 games a year kind of breaks down into $3,200 per game. Even just that heart attack. No, no, I'm going to take the job. NHL refs make about $480,000 per year. 73 games breaks down to about 6,500 per game. NBA refs $550,000 for a salary. 80 games per year, 6, 6,800 per game. And then with NFL refs, average with a new contract, Rob puts $375,000 a year, but it's only 17 games. So that averages out to about $22,000 per game for these guys where the other breakdown. So it's just it's different from the other leagues because there's just a shorter amount of games. Right. Well, you know, but they're still making more per game. Right. Way more per right. 22,000 per game versus. Well, and that's why I like, look, I think the refs are kind of split on the idea of being full time. I don't think it's just about the money. I think some of them actually genuinely like the fact that they do other things and they don't want to have to quit those jobs. You know, I, you know, some are like principals of schools and like, I remember this. I was traveling to, I think it was like Houston one year, you know, and I got on the shuttle at O'Hare and realized that another guy standing next to me is we're just was had like a lot of people who had like a little tag on his bag and he was an NFL referee and I asked him, like, where are you going? And he's like, I'm off to Atlanta. You know, like he just like, he's just like the reporters that go like the day before the game. Right. And they just fly in and out. They do the game and they leave and during the week they have regular jobs. So it's, it's, but I think some of them like that that way. If you make them full time, they have to quit those other jobs. I do think for the, so you could argue, well, yeah, there's fewer games. So why should they be full time? But like, I think for the greater good of the NFL and for how many people depend on these calls to go, right, you know, spent full time could entail in this time of year, you know, studying bingo, looking at tape, learning tendencies of players and coaches, actually understanding the game better potentially and what different teams and they could do it as a group, like people from the NFL that actually maybe know the scheme of the game better could be teaching them and then you get to OTAs and they're instead of having these referees that are being called up like locally, we go to practice. You know, they didn't used to have refs of practice now pretty much almost every practice has referees, but they're, they're lower level referees. You know, you only get a handful of practices in training camp where it's actually the NFL crews coming in, whereas they could actually be, you know, working, but that would entire, entail them moving to these cities, right? That's another part of this. Like you're, because some of them live in like the middle of nowhere, Louisiana, right? Five hours from the, where the New Orleans Saints practice, right? So it's not that that's some of the things some of the, when people like, you would just assume, well, don't they want to be full time? Well, no, a lot of them don't because they would have to uproot their lives and their older adults like that have already like well into their careers, they're going to retire in five years, right? They don't want to all of a sudden be forced to, oh, I got to go live in Kansas city because I'm going to have to, you know, do all these practices, you know, throughout the off season, do all these other things. So it's just, it's a, it's a pretty complicated thing to be honest. Well, hold on one second here. First of all, the NFL seller again this year is $301 million. It's a $22 million increase. The amount of money that is in the game is completely and utterly preposterous. They got it. Right. So we treat NFL football, college football, even high school football, depending on where you're at, as if it's more important than anything else on the face of the earth. Because it is. There you go. So the concept that with all that money that you wouldn't have the people that are the integrity of the game and making it move along and having your product be as seamless and easy to digest as possible for the viewer at home or the people that are paying gargantuan amounts to be in the stadium that you wouldn't have the people out there that know it through and through and are on it every single week because this is what they do full time is insane to me. I'm not disagreeing with that. I think the logistics of that are way more complicated. That's fine. But like if you're, if you're not, if you don't want to be a full time ref, that's cool. You can be on the part time roster. What if there isn't a part time roster? That's what I'm saying, Carm. Let's just talk this out for a second. Okay. So let's say the best referee, referee X is the number one referee in the league, but he lives basically in, I don't know. He lives in Wyoming. Okay. Okay. And he is five to 10 years away from retirement. He's already making his Greg pointed out 300 something dollars a year doing NFL games on top of whatever his full time job is. So he's already been doing pretty damn well his entire career. All right. You're telling me now that I have, I'm going to make more money. Maybe double of what I've been making, but I was already making double when you counted my other job that I had. And I didn't have to. And I now I have to move because I have to be available to do all these. Why does he have to move? Because of where they're at. Because if they go full time, they're going to make them work all year. You have to go do this. Do it. If the guy is that elite, figure out how to work with them. Put, let them do, let them do zoom. Let he doesn't know they have to do these practices. Well, he's got to fly to that. He's going to have to travel. OTAs, training camp, all of these things. So he's going to have to travel a little bit. Okay. But what I'm saying is that guy decides I don't want to do that. So you just lost that referee. Now you go down the line. There's a world Carmen. What's your proposing? Which I'm saying makes a hundred percent sense. All of a sudden the NFL loses. I don't know a quarter of their really good refs. And now they got to call up these replacement refs anyway on a full time basis. I'm just trying to explain why this is not so black and white all these years. And I used to be that guy. Why don't you just make them full time? And then somebody finally explained all this to me, which is what I'm trying to do now. It's just not that easy. They don't want to be full time. Okay. I hear you. Carmen doesn't care about their families. But, and I don't. I do. I love families important. But look, listen, they're not Patrick Mahomes. They're not the refs. They are replaceable. Okay. Then then here come the replacement refs this year. We'll see how we're replaced. Packers get screwed. Yeah. And then everyone freaks out. Train them up. Hogue, honestly, how long do you think it would take if you were a full time ref for you to actually learn the game well enough to do it? How long do you think it would take? How long to be an NFL ref? Yeah. How long do you think it would take? You're doing it on the daily. You're learning it intensely. You're you're going to do whatever you're you're you're refing games along the way. How long do you think it would take you to truly? Years. I'm not trying to. A decade of games. Okay. I'm to be good enough to be an NFL fan. Okay. And I'm not saying it. I'm not saying that it's easy. I'm also saying that it's not like it's the hardest thing on the planet. If they it would be if I was the NFL, it would be worth something investing in. That's all I'm saying. Just there's a lot on the line between, you know, all the money on the line, not just what people get paid, but, you know, the gambling that's in this stuff. And not and I'm not even that big of a gambler. I'm talking what's on the line for my team. I want them to get it right. Is it Hockley still out there? I don't think so. Right. And the NFL is fine. We missed his guns. All right. His son is. Yeah. All right. Go ahead. Okay. Uh, when we come back, we're gonna talk about our favorite Bears draft picks ever. But first, Hey, if you're a regular viewer or a listener to the show, and if you're there on a Friday in the off season, that's probably you or basically any CHG show. CHGO show. We want to hear from you. If you think that Greg Braggs belongs back laying bricks on the daily, I can't, it's in the copy. I can't believe it. I don't know what you need to do. 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As, as, as the leader of this show, quite frankly, as we've all been acknowledging on a daily basis lately. I will go back in time. And I'm going all the way back to 1986. And the draft that year included an eighth round. Used to be 10 rounds. This was in the eighth round. The bears selected an outstanding special teams talent who nickname was Cool Mo D. Maurice Douglas, number 37 in your score book. Number one in your heart. Cool Mo D. On the side was a male stripper. And he, and he also was a Hooper. We would play ball me and Mo Douglas at the multiplex. We're the bulls. You did what? Hoop. We hooped. You did what with him at the strip club? Cool Mo D. He's still, I should keep, I need to get Maurice Douglas on the show. Dude was, the dude was the greatest. He was incredibly fun, phenomenal athlete, great special teamer. Did it for many years for the bears and phenomenal athletes. You were asking for my strip club for my favorite draft pick. I'm going, I'm going back through the draft. This was taking the temp. This dude was hot. And Mo Dug is so, so one day I'm at a bulls game. Section C. Oh Lord take me. I definitely should have went last. I'll three. Well, you looked at me. You teed me up. I told you I was going old school on a Friday. I didn't know you were going strip club. Well, I mean, hey, listen, they weren't making the money back then. Speaking to our last segment on the refs, these dudes had to make extra dough. He was a special teamer. He wasn't getting rich. So he took advantage of it. And he would show, like literally one day at a bulls game, I'm sitting in my seats in the mezzanine. I looked at my left and there he is like a leather coat. It's a Friday night. He's, I don't think, I don't know how it didn't seem like he had a seat. He was just hanging out at the stadium. And I was like, Maurice, what's up? And him and Danelle Wolford, Richard Dent, Otis Wilson. Otis Wilson once sent me across the lane. I nearly died playing pickup. These guys all hung out. Maurice Douglas was a good player too. Great special teamer up your alley. Oh, you would have loved him. He was, you know, the Josh Blackwell of a different era with an extra flavor to him. Maurice Douglas, my all time favorite Bearstreet Raff pick 1986, eighth round. I almost went, you know, who's in the 10th round that year? The Cosman, Glenn Koslowski. And he would never have been a 10th round pick, but he blew up his knee in BYU because he talked so much shit. I'll be sitting down on Friday, I guess. And I guess, no, you cannot. No, I can't. The week does not. That's a tough act to follow. I mean, I, my answer is more normal. What do you say? Braxton? I want to put those boxes. Don'ts. No, my favorite graphic of all time is not Braxton Jones. I'll do respect the Braxton Jones. I was going to say Devin Hester. That's a good one. Which is the segment I thought we were doing. Love Devin Hester coming out. I mean, I could have said Walter Peyton is a specter. Well, I envision the segment being guys, we really liked coming out of college. We, the Bears actually picked it and then ended up having a great career. And of course, we're not male strippers. You know what? That was Karm's interpretation of the segment and he went male stripper. So anyway, yeah, Devin Hester. I remember watching him at Miami and we were watching his highlights for the draft. It was back when I was in college and was like really hoping the Bears would pick them. They did. Obviously, went to the Hall of Fame when it was all said and done. One of the most exciting, if not the most, I've said this before, I think the most exciting bear of ever of my era. You know, I think a guy over here, male stripper guy over here would probably make the case for Walter Peyton. I would believe that too. But very excited. So that's my answer. Devin Hester. Yeah. Well, that's good. I mean, and that's obviously an easy one and I'm with you there. We were on the same boat. Are you going to thread the needle somewhere between Devin Hester and male stripper? No, I'm really not. I mean, I was going to just be normal too. Carm definitely should have finished the segment. Maurice Douglas played 139 games in his career. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine seasons with the Bears, two with the Giants. Cool, Mody. What do you got there? I can't wait for this answer. I've never heard of this. I'll need to pull. I pulled through the, that's my favorite pick. No, but I did tell my good friend Pete, who just turned 40 last week. Shout out Pete Lacage. When they drafted Devin Hester, I went, turned to him and I said, he's going to revolutionize the game of football because I was with you. Watch him at Miami. The guy just had some of the most unbelievable returns. You think they were unbelievable as a bear. Watch his highlight reel in college at Miami. Truly special. I bought his jersey before we even got to training camp. And then once everybody started buying his jersey, his rookie year, I bought his college jersey halfway through the year because I was mad that everybody was copying off me at that point. So shout out to Devin Hester. That's the easy one. That's the low hanging fruit. I get that. And no, I don't have anybody coming off a stripper pole, but I would say Alshon Jeffrey would be, for me, one of my favorite draft picks solely because they finally did something in that draft that like made sense. This wide receiver out of South Carolina, who clearly like looked like he had first round talent, falls to you in the second round. You need a wide receiver. You haven't had a big time player at that time. We had never had good wide receivers like to that level. And all of a sudden we go to training camp. Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffrey are having the most unbelievable catches I've ever seen in a training camp. I remember standing in the stands at Bourbon A and both of them making one hand to catch us on the sidelines and turning. Go, never seen that before. Never seen that before. And Alshon Jeffrey just immediately lived up to the hype. So I loved that pick. It just made sense. They finally did something that made sense and it worked because he was good. And so in this era now of the bears doing things that make sense, I just want to keep that theme going, keep making moves that make sense. That's really good. I'm sorry. I didn't have a stripper pole guy. No, no, no. It's just ridiculous. I mean, I won the segment. It's okay. You did win the segment. You did win the segment. Alshon's a good underlining. The making sense thing, by the way. I mean, honestly, if you were going to do a real whatever, I don't know, man, last year, Colson Love Luther Burton, pretty damn good. Well, my other answer in all seriousness is Caleb Williams. Because I don't think there's a single prospect that I spent more time hyping up as saying, like, this is the dude. This is who the bears have to pick. They have to do this. And then they did it and now seemingly is working out. So yeah, but I felt a little too easy because it's in the now. So I went a little, I mean, Hester's easy too, but a little bit more of a revenue. Who was the guy that you were in love with in the draft that ended up not working out? Do you guys have any of? I have a very many of those. Yeah. Um, Alonzo Spellman. I mean, my first ever. I always thought he was gay. He wasn't good. Alonzo Spellman. So he could have been like the greatest player ever if he didn't have the the. Yeah, I'm talking more like I thought Joaquin Iglesias wide receiver was going to be good. Yeah, I'm thinking more first round. Like my first ever bears mock draft that I did. The first pick I made was Gabe Carimi, which of course was a big Homer pick. But still to this day, I will die on the sword. The Gabe Carimi would have worked out had he not gotten hurt. You know what I mean? Like I, he, he was their best offensive lineman already at the point where he got hurt in week two of that season. I was so, I was excited for him just cause I think every time a player gets drafted, I want to see their best path, the vision of their best path. But then I can remember being at training camp the first year that that Gabe Carimi showed up. And I'd always be hawking the ESP 1000 guys in Yerco's like, He got toothpick legs, brother. He ain't going to be good. And I was like, damn it, Yerco. Why are you ruining this? It's such a buzz kill. Get away from me, Yerco. But he was right. See that's what matters though. And it's actually, it's a little bit of a Braxton Jones issue. And they're not toothpicks, but they're not the preachers. Braxton Jones is also a fifth round pick, not first round. Right. Right. Which makes the difference. Well, and Braxton's put on a bunch of weights. Steven, you got something you want to jump down? Yeah. For me, I don't need to go back, back very far at all. It was last year on our draft two, day two of our draft night. It was Luther Burton for me. Because he was the guy that you guys probably remember on the show. You were in love with him. I was. And I thought there was no chance the Bears were going to take a wide receiver in either of the first two rounds. And it was kind of this moment of shock when we see it come through Twitter. And you guys kind of start looking at me. And I didn't realize it yet. And then I see it come through. I'm like, there's no way we just got Luther Burton who I considered going into that, that college football season. I thought he was the best receiver in the draft. And then, you know, he didn't have the best production that year. Tep McMillan ended up being the better receiver. At least going into that draft. And now Luther Burton has a chance to be the best receiver out of all of them there. Travis Hunter is going to play mostly corner now. Tep McMillan, he's had a really good year. But I think Luther Burton can do the same if not better. So for me, that was the one because it was like this embarrassment of riches of, wow, we have three stud wide receivers now. And then it ended up we had two stud tight ends as well. And our quarterback turned into a stud. And we had Ben Johnson coming in to run the offense. Everything just kind of fell into place. Luther Burton's my pick. Okay. Two guys that on each side of the ball out of Vanderbilt that I was in love with, Earl Bennett and DJ Moore, Nickelback. I love DJ Moore coming out of love them. Then as soon as he like, he had that energy about him. Earl Bennett will always be one of my favorite wide receivers. That's kind of like the unsung hero guys. I loved his game. Yep. Well, as we wrap up the show, just a reminder that two weeks from yesterday will be the first of our draft parties. Two weeks from today will be the second of our draft parties. Come on out to the draft party. Joe's on weed street, 10 bucks to get in $65. All you can drink sponsored by friends at I dot. Take an Uber, have a designated driver come with you if you're going for the $65 package. It's going to be a ton of fun. All CHGO.com slash events. All CHGO.com slash events. Maurice Douglas might show up. Who's winning the Masters? Hope. Oh, now you're asking me to see the future. Well, you did last year. You called Rory and by the way, I watched Rory McElroy has a documentary on Amazon Prime. That just came out. I need to watch it. It's fantastic. I know it because I had him last year, right? What if followed him last year? Correct. Like did all 18 holes and then in between each hole would like go back and tell like an older story. I'm actually watching that right now. Yeah, exactly. With race car Pelle. And I didn't know his whole story. So like watching that through and not realizing that he was going to blow it that many times. Like my hand was on my head so many times during that documentary. Well, Rory obviously had a great Thursday. Last I checked my guy, Zander Shoffley, which was my is my pick is still. What about Ben Hogan? In good shape. So Ben Hogan, you got a chance? Yeah, it's just. June in Monday to see if Mark Carmen still works here. What about what about what about? Tom golfs with wooden sticks. Literally, we went out one time and he brought out literally wouldn't golf. I like the golf bag too. I'm so excited for Sunday. The greenery, the grilled cheese sandwich. Oh, amen. Corn rain, man. It's over. Go Masters. Would you would you rather it's like, where does the Rory winning the Masters last year rank in like the best sporting events of the entire year? And this guy's hating on it. It's got to be up there. It's got a case for number one. Would you rather no, it doesn't. Yes, it does. Would you rather I'd rather watch Sunday at the Masters or. Or be at the strip club with Modi. Well, come on. Shout out, Modi. Shout out all you golf fans. You have a great weekend. Oh, do you have any final words? No, he wants to go. I'm literally looking forward to the next two days watching golf and Stephen and Greg, you're invited. I'm gonna. I'm actually shout out Papa Hogue tomorrow's birthday and we are going to the Blackhawks game. Yeah. Papa. Yeah, they're inducting Duncan Keith and our guy Troy Murray recipes. Love Troy into the Blackhawks Hall of Fame. First black is gonna be a fun weekend and then we got Masters on Sunday. I think it's the final Bulls home game tonight. Bulls magic. Definitely don't care about that. I'm going to Indianapolis with my wife. We're going to a comedy show. We're going to she's never been to St. Elmos. I'm going with her to St. Elmos. We've seen. We are seeing a comedian named Amber Autry. She's very funny. You and Jenny on a Greg Jenny weekend. Greg Jenny weekend in Indianapolis. She's never been to St. Elmos. And I think this is going to be my last time ever going to St. Elmos. I love St. Elmos, but not not to sound like a completely spoiled medium. We've been there. Yeah, you're finally reached that point. I've been there for like five years already, but you guys haven't experienced it. So I've been coming. Everybody's hyping up livery. I want to go there now. We went there a few years ago. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That place is great. And then I'm telling you prime is better. I'm over St. Elmos. But Jenny's never been there. So I'm taking Jenny St. Elmos. Then we're doing the comedy show. Then we're going to paint the town red. So if you're an indie, come find us. I'll get you a drink. Have a great time. We'll see you Monday.