Another wrestler, another Mount Rushmore type legend who reside at the Tampa area, Hulk Kogan passed away. I talked on the age boy guy. I shouldn't say this but... What's up guys, Mr. Exact here. Welcome back to episode 8 of Double Coverage. I'm honored and privileged to be joined by another Hall of Famer, a 16-time world champion. A man inducted into every pro wrestling hall of fame and someone who deserves to be on anyone's pro wrestling Mount Rushmore. The great, the nature boy, Rick Flair. Thank you sir. Thank you. I'm honored to be here. Honored to... In privilege to be able to sit here with you, especially after your man LT was our last guest. Yeah, my man LT, my favorite human being. LT in both the pro wrestling and the NFL Hall of Fame, a lot of people don't know that. Well, you know, he wrestled Bam Bam big deal. He was a thought he'd been in the business. What's my great answer he is? You've thought he'd been in the business for 10 years? That's a great match. Yeah. He said he was shocked at the athleticism of Bam Bam big deal. He said that someone like him, he thought, could play in the NFL for sure. I don't know about that. You better ask Andre, giant about that because Andre beat the crap out of him. I don't know about that. Bam Bam was a good athlete. Yes, very good. But is that something that people overlook that athleticism and professional wrestlers? No, not anymore. No, I think that's been gone for a long time. And modern times people have kind of got... Now that we got the Brock Lesnar's and the... Yeah, it was phenomenal, actually. My daughter who was the best athlete in the company, Ray Mysterio, you can put on a Lesnar. Lesnar's is insane. There's nobody like him. Yeah. I don't want to be in the ring of the day. He misses that vertical jump to the apron. You know what I mean? No. I think it's about a 40-inch hike. And he jumps up there every time. He almost made the Vikings. Without playing football since high school. And then he goes and wins the UFC championship. I mean, come on. And he's a tough kid too. You ran a 4-7. The 280-pound defensive tackle. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah. I would say Brock's right up there with the best athletes. Yes, yep. Exactly. For sure. I could not give that. Yeah, and we were getting into it for the interview. You're a massive football fan. Yes. You're watching closely. I think you play fantasy football. I mean, you're all up in the action. You're breaking down the spreads, the odds. No, I don't play fantasy football. You don't play fantasy? No, but I have, I've gotten the point now where all the guys are. They know the play. So now I follow the coaches. Like I'm a good friend with Jim Harvock. Good friends with John. Good friends with Mike Braebo. Good friends with Lane Kiffin. Oh, wow. I'm not turning things to all of a sudden. All good friends. I'm having a tough year with Dan Quinn, too. Yeah, tough year. But great year last year. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, Lane Kiffin, I actually got to work under at FAU. Yeah. And I was 16. Really? Yeah, and our videographer is his dad worked with him as his wide receiver's coach. Really? Coach G.J. McCarthy, yep. He's just got back with his wife. Can you believe it? No, I cannot believe it. You would know a thing or two about, you know, a couple different wives. Are you single right now? Yeah, very single. Very single. Nobody will have me. Nobody has no more misnature boys. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. One point, one point eight million in the Alamoni. And one in the 30 feet. Oh my God. Yeah, I'm not getting married again. Oh my God. Three million dollars? Yeah, it costs money. Do you have make money? Wow. $17,000 a month, the one of my life. Three years. Oh my God. $17. I was paying Alamoni to three women at one time. Oh my God. Hey, stop that Lawrence. Healthy ain't got nothing on that. No, nobody does. I think if you rappers, I don't know how you just have been your only two ladies. You got 11 kids. I don't know. Oh, you and Oli Field are in a good competition there. Yeah. I think Cam Newton just had his ninth baby. Shout out to Cam. Well, Samson's got 12 kids. Come on. Maybe that's why the rappers get along with you so well. Yeah, I guess. You live a similar lifestyle. Tell me about the Ric Flair drip and getting to record that video with the Migos. Unfortunately, it was a great thing for me, but it was like I had just gotten out of the hospital. And when I got out of the hospital, I had no memory for six months. So when they called me to do it, I wasn't represented. So I, like I tell them, I'll say this all the time. I made $39,000. You made $48,000,000. He gets pissed for that. He said, I made you famous. I said, you, I, he is a great hope of yours. He goes, I made you famous. I said, you wrote the song about me. I was famous. Obviously, I'm not afraid to contact me, okay? How you talking to me? I made you famous. Really? You wrote the song about me? You, I inspired you. Yeah, I bought John Wayne in the animal. Give me a break. No, I'm upset. Boy, you tore him off, but Cardi B didn't step on the eggs, man. I don't want to eat the middle of that one. No, I don't want, I mean, I know I met her with the course of him. He really is a great guy. I actually got to meet Will. He's pretty cool. How was that? Well, I've had three heroes in my life. Joane, with, Will, and who is my third hero? I just thought of one. I'm going to be a hero. Who is my third hero? I just thought of one other day. That I really admired when I was going up. Will, Chairman, I don't know. People don't know what was the greatest athlete that I've played basketball. Better than a fine. You look at what he did in track and field. Yeah. At Kansas. People just, they step by that. He benched for 400 pounds. He was through the shot, put 68 feet. Come on. No, I love the brown, but he's a brown can't do that. And he was, you know, he just didn't want to do it in the court. Yeah. I mean, he wanted to lead the league in the system. He wanted to lead it in points. He let it in points. He didn't want to do it. 54 point. Think about this. 50, 50 point, 4 points again. 25 rebound game and 20 assists game for one year. Come on. And they leave him out of the discussion all together. Yeah. He just put his hand on green dead. He said, calm down. Anyway, three hundred pounds. Yeah, huge. I mean, for him to bench press that much with arms that long, you could go. Yeah, no, I know. But some believe we, I mean, what do you have a 90 inch reach? Ben pressing 400 pounds. Well, not with that, but who throws the shop 180 feet? And it took him third in the NCAA's and 880. Yeah. I mean, the guy was just unreal. At Kansas. People discount. He's that. What is it for the gold trotters? Uh-huh. He's a cake for him. Yeah. You know, he made him famous. Same guy that made our palma famous Mike McCormack. We'll, I don't know who has wills that say it now. But we'll bought so much property in San Francisco. As, you know, all palm right. You can Google it right now, but Mark McCormack, right? He was the first to pursue big athletes in the NFL. How did he, he handled like their, what was his investments? Investments. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, also people don't, there's videos of Bill Russell literally jumping over people. I mean, his feet are clearing their head. Yeah, Bill, Bill Russell to me just, he just had both numbers. He was also surrounded by a better team every, we'll never had a team where everybody was the first team all the time. No, not until the kind of Jerry West era later on. Yeah. We'd already been dominating for 15 or so years. Yeah, but he was a little bit. Yeah, it gone through Kansas and all those years, six years in the Warriors. And it's not like today with modern medicine. It's a totally different game for these athletes and wrestling as well. Yes. With peptides and stem cells and all these different things. Thankful for all of that stuff. You guys have it easy today. But I'm happy to do. No one wants to do what I did. I was telling something the other day. 83, 85, I had 70 and days off. Think about that. Twice on Saturday, twice on Sunday. My account was, how can you wrestle 420 times? I said, because I wrestled twice on Saturday. Twice on Sunday. Did you do? I just like all of the things that I did to me. One year of drink. When I work. When I work every day. I tied my heart through with him. He was in the college. I have done a few heavy weights. I was blind and wasn't like. I woke up and went, oh god, I've done something really terrible. I've got a Ham Salmonds and a backdrop and this and I. What have I done? Here's a world champion. She weighs more than you. Oh, she's more than 240. No, I don't know. I don't think I ever did 240, but I might hit the 200 bar. Ha, ha, ha. At least screws are weight. Wow. Wow, yeah. Now, you're going through this schedule and this calendar after surviving a plane crash. It talked to me about that in your recovery in the 70s, where medical, so it's not like it is today. No, but I did. I was like a, of what is surgery. I just had a compression fracture of three. But I went from 255 to 180. Wow. And the doctor said I'd never wrestle again. So not going to work. Here I am. 1975, a long time ago. You wrestled for six decades after? In my last match, I had a heart attack. Didn't even know it. In that great legend. It's an legend. Do you have any regrets when something like that happens? Or the nature boy doesn't regret anything? No, I don't. I have a thousand regrets about times I miss a lot of the children. You've got to go to work, you know? Back then, no guarantee contract. You don't go to work, you don't get paid. Yeah. You don't get paid. You can't pay the bills. Yeah, better put food in the table. Yeah, but that's only a regrets I have. I can tell you right now that I would have never ever been survived social media. Back in the 80s. When we were in the 80s, we were the Beatles. They cooked the bars for fuller women. Now, if the guy is so popular, you're walking to the bar. 25 stipends. Come here and draw a graph. No. Please, Mr. Flare, no. I said no. Off. No, that's what it is. Yeah. In the 80s, we were in the Beatles. We came to town, man. Every chicken town was there. We were in a totally different era. Yeah. No more stealing my Rolexism. Telling me I threw it to a bulls forgetting I said it at 13 more. No more taking my main cord off. You had a legendary rivalry with Dusty Rhodes. And you was sort of the antithesis. I was a hard time. Hard time. He was the antithesis of what you represented. He was relatable to the common everyday man. And you were the jet-setting nature boy. Talk to me about that. It's the greatest rivalry in the industry, wrestling. It went off for 20 years, which made it even better. You know, he was great, charismatic. He was a genius in terms of, you know, thinking about these who like the wargames and the starry-caded and a flare for the goals. I mean, who's a genius and stuff like that? What was your relationship like with him out of the ring? Perfect. We always had conflicted the ego in things at period of time. But that happens every other day. You two got along really well. Yeah. He was much more conservative than I was. I mean, he knew when to go to bed. I didn't. Yeah. I still don't want to. No, you still don't. No. You wouldn't be the nature boy you did. Now, incredible is it now with your daughter, Charlotte, doing what she's doing in the WWE and his son, Cody, doing what he's doing in the WWE? Yeah. Well, my daughter is the greatest female wrestler of all time. And I truly believe she's the best wrestler in the company right now. She can do it to nobody else. Can do it. 5-11, a bug 55. It's not like she's 5-3 or 5-4. The court school room solves that many times. She could have gone to college and played to the Division 1 sport in four different sports. She got recruited from the four ever sports. Yeah. Basketball, volleyball, of course. Trudelene and Track and Field. Should I have 5-13 miles? And then I three. Remember they used to have the President's business for some mothers of a ball, so that got to be better than in your kid. I got for bed. No, it's fast. It was gold, silver, bronze. No participation. No, no, no. No, no, no. There's eight. I mean, everybody gets a medal. Everyone gets a medal. Thanks, Mom. I generate in a lot of... My son finished eighth. Yay! Don't give me going on that. I won't. But how great has it been to see this next generation of wrestlers who are related? To you and the guys that you wrestled with? Oh, that's great. I'm Randy Orton. I mean, his third generation. Randy's the best male worker in the company right now. Then they don't utilize them the way I would if I was spoken by that. I'm not. He can still work his ass off. Yeah. He's making a lot of money. He's doing good. He's happy. That's all that matters. Yeah, absolutely. But, Randy, one of my favorites, I think he's underutilized. Oh, I look at his body at me. God. He's off the gas. It still looks great. Yeah, he's an adonis. Yeah, it's a matter of his symmetry as an unreal. And the emotions, he gets out of people. I mean, I really hated him as a kid. Yeah. Oh, I know. He could really piss you off. Yeah, he really pissed me off when you'd archaeo, John Cena. I mean, I really wanted to get after him. Yeah. There's a big difference in the way wrestling is today in your era and K-fabe. In your era, you guys really protected that. Yes. And really kept it close to the chest. Whereas today, everything is documented. In fact, there's a Netflix documentary that shows everything behind the scenes, social media. And it still thrives. And it still thrives. It's still one of the biggest sports globally. Well, let's deal with the Espianas really cool because it legitimizes not only the Netflix skill, but the sport, which it is a sport. It might be choreographed, but I can think of it in the last three years. Two broken necks. Big E and. Yeah. No, no, wrestling again. And nobody else voted for that. But I mean, in the last 10 years. People. I mean, we've had seven broken necks. Yeah. So it's not a game. No, certainly not. And we've got guys that are messed up every day with, you know, torn, torn Muslim. It's a really physical, physical contest. There's a reason why when the celebrities do it, they have to train in Orlando. Oh, yeah. You know, just great, bad money to great. Yeah. And I tell you what else has done great is Jake Logan Paul. Logan Paul. Yeah. He's done great. That's off to him. I mean, the stuff Logan Paul is doing is impressive, right? Yeah. I didn't realize that he was being trained by Sean Michael. I said, but his kids are really caught in equipment. She's worked up with Sean. Sean is the master probably the greatest of all time. Yeah. He's the greatest performer, right? Yes. Absolutely. Him and Steve Boat. Him and Steve Boat. But Steve Boat couldn't work both ways. The lab right on that. What does that mean to someone who's not super into wrestling? It means his team was a phenomenal great guy. But it does not have prick. There's not a bone that says I'm a Steve Boat's body. Sean can be a... Yeah. But he can also be the best. Yeah. So you have a face and a heel. A good guy and bad guy. And in wrestling, you guys are trying to convey those emotions out of the fans. It's all gonna do both. Yeah. Sean's had legendary matches with people from every era including you. Yeah. Nobody will ever touch over at Diamond. No, right? Nobody. Is that your favorite match throughout your career? It was hard to say to my favorite. But I think it's the biggest WrestleMania in the whole time. 80,000 people. I didn't know what to expect. Because I didn't like... I kind of was an anti-warmer tiring. But when I was on the door, there was... At the first time anybody ever said to me, he said, keep your mouth shut. Do exactly what I tell you. Wow. Yeah. And when he says, I love you. In the finish, no one sells better than you. That was always your calling card and the ring. You always made your opponents look incredible, which is a hard skill to master. That's a job, right? That's family of life doing that. Yeah. And you got a wrestler guy for an hour. Which I'm the only guy that wrestles everybody for an hour. You got to figure it out a way to get through it. Because a lot of guys, number one, aren't conditioned to wrestle on number two that aren't having a skill. And number three, they just don't have the mental capacity. Now, it was a long time, guys. Who is your favorite person to work within the ring? Um, Austin Bull. Steve Bush on you. Or Hunter. Harley-Rays. I love you. Another legendary NWA champ. Harley-Rays. Oh my god. So you're, you're what your person? Zach. Zach. I'm Harley. So Zach. What makes you think you couldn't ask me? Questions about my career. I am a hardy race. The world champion. So, this is a great story. I tell everybody. So, Triple Ace, you ended up coming into the business, right? And your name is Paul They come to the entrance of the room, and I go, and Harley was there. I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, Harley, this is a new guy coming in the name of the fallback. So I'm Hunter now. Who trained you? Killerowski. Easy. Oh God, Harley was a drip man. Oh God. He couldn't take it anywhere. He couldn't take it anywhere. Go ahead. Sorry. No problem. Look for it. Harley race, Jack brisco, yourself, all great NWA heavyweight champs. A lot of people consider you the last great NWA heavyweight champ. Even though a lot of newer fans know you for your work in WWE, the hardcore fans recognize all the stuff you didn't end up in. Talk to me about that era in the travel. I mean, you're going to Japan, Australia, Canada. I'm in the thousands of miles a week. Yeah, talk to me about that. I just said that during that span I had that. Yeah. I was a Sydney for an hour. The Mark Willing fly over to Auckland, New Zealand. And I'll learn Auckland. Harley says let's change the belt and help. I can't think of the words. I'm going to draw a bigger house tomorrow in Christchurch. I go Harley. Not going to wish you that. You've got my wish. Gricky. So I dropped the belt with a great surgeon when it, and of course some stewards called megal. What did you do with Harley? I said, Bob, I didn't do anything with Harley. You got a problem with this. Call Harley. Tell a guy to go. I'll be back on the mainland in 24 hours. Anyway, so I go from there to St. Louis for an hour to Atlanta for an hour and then to Tokyo for three straight hour matches. Three days in a row. You are the real traveling world heavyweight champion. The most traveled. Yeah. Totally different than today. No, I'm not. It's almost for a modern wrestling fan. No, no, no, but I'm saying that with not demeaning, but. No. Well, love when you only wrestle 50 guys. Yeah. Because that's basically, you know, five year period. You like his wrestling 50 guys. I wrestle different guy every night. 10 years and for an hour. What do you think these kids would do with both Roosevelt and Santa right now? Jesus Christ. You started to talk about different world. Yeah. I was wrestling these guys in Japan. I wrestled Brody on Japan TV for an hour, but it made me famous in Japan. But still it's a long hour with Brody and he was good. Great shape, but big to so intimidated. He never hurt me. Ever once. Oh wow. But to watch him come around across the ring, six, six, three hundred pounds. Do that fly in knee and up. You never hurt me. And he's holding for me. Dr. All I need to do is get him down to my size. Like big short. That's a big short. I'd say just sell your eyes. You're not listening to me. So I go in and I'm going balls right. I said he drops his knees. Now we're the same side. Yeah. Now I can punch him right. I'm going to punch a guy. But I mean, you know what I mean? It look a little crazy. Yeah. He tells that story. It's a great story. It's a great, that's good. Come on. Let's go. The biggest professional athlete. Was there someone who was someone that you worked with? Yeah, incredible. Wow. I would just talk about this with my father. Yeah. Who actually you met and really nice to when he was a kid. He what? He played basketball, which is something. For him to be a seven footer with that type of agility is really incredible. You don't see that a guy's that big. No. He's the best big man ever. He's the best. Including Andre. Including Andre. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I'm not putting it over. I'm like under-digger, but I mean, I mean, the under-digger is a lot smaller. He's not quite their size. Yeah. It's a different. I under-diggered the best big man ever. How does he do that? I haven't seen a role in small-mad. Walking on the top will be just a great athlete. But it's an even a better person. Mark is one of the greatest guys in the whole club. Well, the stuff he was doing with Sean Michaels, I mean, he was going move from move with someone so much smaller than him and so incredible at that stuff. Did that match? Yeah. That was Sean retirement match. Yeah. Yeah, phenomenal. Favorite match? In Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. What Sean could work with anybody that I mean, unbelievable. Let's hope good mark, you know what I mean? Yeah, both of them. Yeah, both of them are Mount Rushmore type. Exactly. How does that feel when people rank you as the greatest professional wrestler ever, put you on their Mount Rushmore and show you the love and adulation? What makes you feel true? It makes you feel great. But it's not that I couldn't have done that, but we didn't do moonsaults when I started. I'm sure I could have done it. Does that make sense? Yeah. Sure I could do all that shit about it. But it wasn't that bad. When I started, you were fighting for your life. I mean, you're getting hit in the mall by guys. It'll make young guys come into the business, digging their spot. That guy's punching into... You've got to hit a backer. You don't hit a backer of the year lost. You don't walk in the dressing room. So, no, different than I am. Well. But I think Sean and Taker and... I know it in Stone Cold, one of my favorites, but the most entertaining guy in the world. I can look at his stuff now as the rock. He sets a gift to the guy. Nobody's more entertaining. Oh, nobody. Not even close. He's just sitting dead. The accents, the singing. What's your... What did he say? What's your... I don't care what you... How are you, Travis? I agree the best on the mic. And Stone Cold, so great in the ring and on the mic, he's hilarious. Steve, you're great. One point. Two points. Three points. Two tequila. Two bloody marries. Three and a half. What? What? What? Here's the backer of Gold. This is the greatest I've ever seen. I flew into Manchester and I had one point. I was in the head two points. The crowd was just eating. I like Manchester. I'll have four points. Then five. Then six. Was he really like that out of the ring? Oh, God, yeah, he was great. He could drink like hell. You killed me. You could keep up with you. Oh, yeah. He's... He... I geared to you with that visit in an hour and eleven. In his hand. You got your energy drink here. Woo! Energy. Talks to me about that. You're actually drinking. A lot of people have products but they don't actually use it but you're literally drinking it. Well, I wanted to be a alert and entertain for you. Yeah. I didn't want to disappoint you. No, and you're not. So it really is the best for that. But it's mushroom and pews. And we're about to do a big deal with Walmart. Which will take us over the top. And then I'm trying to get it in Japan. When I get it in Japan, I'll be hard to find. You'll call me for podcasts and I'll say, yeah, 70, 500 grand at all. Come on. Come on. Where is your ideal vacation spot? If you had to pick. My ideal vacation spot. I'm a live vacation everywhere. I can't say that I have one. When you lived my life and done what I've done, I mean, it's hard to pick one out. For the sense. Yeah. I used to love the Caribbean, but I've done that so much. I guess if I was going to go in the case right now, going where I might go back to Hawaii. I used to go all the time and I have been on 10 years. It was so Japanese. I could why it was just wasn't like a good bite. I mean, but now that we've reclaimed, it's bought back some of the property. Nothing is a Japanese. I love it. You had a lot of great times there. So you're looking forward towards Hawaii, potentially going there. I'm not going back there. I'm trying to think. You know, it's funny. I don't. I just have done so much and been to many places. But I have not been to Columbia. So I'm looking forward to that. No, that'll be great. Yeah. It's not in the water, too, right? Not really. Medigene now. But there is one city over there. There is a city, yeah. Bogota? Bogota is. It's not in the water. Yep. It's like a few hours. Medigene, they got like beautiful hiking and stuff. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like a night out. I love Nashville. I can dance. Oh, do you? I hang out with Kid Rock and Nashville. That's a trip. Oh, that must be a good. So what's it like hanging with Kid Rock and Nashville? Well, he's calmed on a lot. Oh, yes. It's just the aura of Kid Rock. I mean, he's talking about a guy you'll never cancel. He don't get to talk about anything. He says exactly what he thinks. An angry guy. USC is how the sir ran. It's about 30 miles out of Nashville. His house is 25,000 square feet is the exact replica of the White House. What? He's got two bars on it. They each hold over 300 people. One is country. One is like contemporary, right? 600, you have a cattle. You drive up to this warehouse, right? And you go one side to warehouse. He's got a studio that'll hold 50 people, maybe 80. We record right there. Then he's got a collection of cars and shit. I mean, he lives large. Private jet. Great guy. Have you been to any of his concerts? I go all the time. Yeah, I heard they're incredible. Yeah. That he can do. Wait and play every instrument. Yeah, every single day, every instrument. You can do raw. Country, pot, he can rat. Never being an important, never being another white like me. No, I love that. Me, you. I think I'm cocky. What's that song? I think they don't speak anymore, but there's a promise. Picture? Picture, yeah. Yeah, it's a good one too. Oh, he's got a whole bunch of bingers. Yeah, they don't talk anymore. Oh, I tell you it was a great guy. He's the best. Easy. God. He's about a $10,000 acre range. Very good base of the mountains and so on. He's a really kind person. Great, great. I don't know. There's music's amazing too. Obviously he's got. Oh, God, he's killing. So much commercial success. He's killing it. Were there any musicians in the 70s and 80s? You got to hang out with them party with that maybe someone wouldn't know? Oh, I got to hang out with the whale and Jennings a lot. I hang out with Motley Crew. Kind of the role is this. Oh, well. I didn't have time to go to concerts. If I met him, going away, I don't see any extra well. And she getting to sing her ass off. Yeah, she's incredible. Yeah. Trying to sing. Hmm. That's about it. But the Rockstar lifestyle pretty similar to how you guys were living. Yeah. They don't live as hard as we do by any means. Oh, they're not as hard. No, they're living the days. Luck in these luxury. They travel on these luxury. All day was a great guy to find it. He's a various rucker. Hmm. Various might be my best friend. He loves wrestling. So when you're going out, do you prefer like a real nice fancy spot? Or do you prefer like a more down to earth? I'm pretty simple, man. I don't go on him away. But it's not like there's a place that I would call sons that rodeo that I go to once in a while. But I got a Uber over there or get a limo on it. Everything. There's so much right here. Yeah, it's all right here. You've got you've got a wagon mama. You've got a blonde. You've got the pearl. There's a lot going on right here in this area. Yeah. So you keep it simple. Yeah. Another wrestler, another Mount Rushmore type legend. Resided the Tampa area. Hulk Kogan passed away. I talked on the ageway guy. I shouldn't say this, but what killed him was street drugs. When the doctor wouldn't prescribe anymore, he was in so much pain. And he had that neck surgery. They got infected. To back in the hospital. Imagine 10 back surgeries. Two knees, two hips. Oh, yes. And then when they. The doctor would not prescribe anymore pain. He just couldn't do it. All due conscious right. Yeah. So they went and got the drugs off the street. His body just said, you know what? You can go. I can't do it anymore. Yeah. Sad. That's terrible. You're a great guy. Wow. Yeah, all my buddies are going, boy. Yeah. You know, microchromular IRS. Do I know what? No, I. R.S. microchromular. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big is real sick right now. I better friend just had a stroke. Chocolmes. Yeah. Not kind of old guys. Yeah. Live it out every day. You're serious. You had a great relationship with Hulk. Yeah. Yeah. Tremendous. Yeah. But is this these guys just. I don't want to mention any of this. We knew. It's all going to come out in the media the next. 30 days. You'll read about it anyway. I just want to. I don't feel free to. Yeah. No, no, no. I don't want you to. But I mean, it makes sense. His body being beat up like I mean, the stuff he was doing was superhuman. Well, it's just it's just 10 back surgeries guys. And then come on. When you're putting on for the giant on your back. It wasn't that you know what you'll cause the back surgery. Well, what was it? Dropping the leg. Mm. Dropping the legs. A jab to the bones. That's what did it. Wow. I go in and. If you had an insulin drop in the leg and everybody you walking around just like. But that made him the Hulk. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I didn't know that. I would have thought it was from the slams. No, you know, it was like a doctor told him that you just. You know how many times you do it. A hundred thousand times. I mean, 50. But. Yeah. It's hard for someone who's never wrestled to know what hurts and what does and. I'm sure there's a lot of moves that we wouldn't expect. You really feel. But it does. Yeah. That's life. Yeah. Yeah. Just hope to live another day. Pray for praying pray for your friends that. Our suffering now because a lot of people are. Yeah, absolutely. I went to the cancer and to yesterday and my god. See all these people. With their head shaved. Yeah. The whole team all went all out. It's a real wake up call. It is. You've had a legendary workout routine since the 70s. You still get after it. Lift heavy weights. Why don't we rotate it? Before that. I mean, this was very recent up until then you were dead lifting huge amounts. I did. I did a three weeks ago. A four or five. But my best ever was 600. Wow. Do you think the the workout routine and staying fit and lifting those weights? Has helped you get through your scares? Yeah. Plus I was very, very minimal steroids. What happens when you take these steroids? You got to remember that steroids make the bustle grow. But they don't make the ligament grow. Yeah. And these guys that carry these ligaments and have all this fun. You know, you can't just can't put too much on the ligaments. The steroids don't make me think that ligaments are one size. You put too much beef on them. As far as the guys were getting. For the old days. Yeah. Turn everything up because they were gas for the gills. So I obviously I took steroids but I'm very limited. You know you're 240 plus. Well, no, but I mean I took like a decade and an of our. Yeah. I didn't take this oxygen around at all 50 or anything. Yeah. And I only took that and I remember. That tracks. Take a shot. Oh, I forgot. That's right. And it can't be in the role with you. But I'm painting that. That was. Yeah. But you got some guys who are probably freaks with it. No, please. Look at the guy in the 80s. Who is the strongest guy that you work with? The strongest guy ever. Yeah. Look at him. Can't be terror. The first guy that we've put 500 over yet. Hmm. He took a bronze on the Olympic. That's incredible. And how did his strength feel in the ring? He didn't feel it, but I mean. He just throw me around like a rubber. I mean, nothing in her. But he literally could press me and throw me across the ring. That nothing. Oh, my God. A lot of guys can press me. It's land. But that thrown me across. God, yeah, I'm ready. Yeah. That's insane. 61240. Well. Wow. Yeah. Any shocking, smaller guys who got you up, yeah. Um, I can't think of it like this dance out like that. A lot of guys are real strong. Yeah, no. We talked about, I mean, a lot of guys real strong. Real athletic. Cesaro is real strong. Yeah. Real strong. Hmm. John Cena is strong. Yeah, everyone says Cena. And Kane. And Kane. I don't know what's done with that strong. Big guy. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says Cena is real strong. Yeah, he is. He's not the tallest guy. And a great guy. Great guy. Are you, how do you feel about his retirement tour and him hanging it up? Let's come up soon. I know I'm, I'm, I'm a lady for him. Yeah. I heard it shared for him for 10 minutes in the garbage money. Hmm. You'll be there. No, they did. Oh, you did. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He's received a lot of fanfare deserved. Yes. He's a phenomenal man. He's a man. Yeah. What he does with the make-a-wish kids and everything. Yeah. Is he one of your favorites in the ring too? John, I never got to wear a job. Yeah. But do you like to watch him as a fan? Yeah. For our generation, the Jens, I mean, he was our biggest guy. Yeah, for sure. Super Cena. Yeah. A larger than life. Yeah. No, he really, I think, carried on the mantle and did a good job representing the sport. Yeah. He'll be missed. He'll be missed for sure. Do you think for someone like him, it's too soon to give it up or do you know? No, it's perfectly. Perfect. I think he's active and holy well known. And he's done so well. His acting is, he's got a spot on now and he's doing great. What was your relationship like with the original nature boy, Buddy Rogers? Oh, it was good. But it was, I'll tell you about the strange. Well, I really admire Buddy. I never, I never would come when in the, obviously, we're 30 years there was an age. But I did finally work on the game, the Charlotte. He walked in a dressing room and what, what made Rogers a, this is what, form like, you know, always tan dressed emagilally, right? And he walked over to me and he looked at me and said, Kid, there's only one diamond in this business. And you're talking to me. Buddy Rogers. That's what he said. Okay. Now he was a man. Buddy, he looked phenomenal, but I never saw him twice, but it was, he was like in the 60s or something like that. But he knew, he backed down brother. And he was big time. He told me, well, I've heard several times, I think about in the 50s, he was making 50 grand a week. He'd go from Montreal to New York to St. Louis. I mean, every where I went, what wrestling, what probability of watching and wrestling, San Martino, Jean Kineski, Pedal Conor, I mean, I mean, he was making 50 grand a week back in the 50s. Wow. Yeah. He sold everything. He was, he was, he really, he had this shutdown. I was like, he's the first guy to ever do what we call ice months. We like you drop down and graduate, I was over here and all that. He was the first guy to ever do this. And the beautiful things about wrestling is you can get those introgeneration or matchups that you can't get in boxing. Because in boxing, you talk about what would happen if sugary Robinson, box sugary Leonard, you never get to see it really. It's just hearsay, but in wrestling, you can get some cool stuff with different generations. Let me say the answer to that. Yeah. Sure, Ray Robinson. All right. There's older guys with toughness. Yeah. It's like Archie Moore. They are too more. He did the favor for mom, what are we? Because he would, Archie Moore, what we call the shooter. Archie Moore was tough as shit. Oh, yeah. It's like, you know, this day Sunday of this didn't come on. He was bad. Nobody would fight Sunday of this. He was Eddie Mason, those guys were scared to do that. Oh, yeah. Flight Patterson, Dodge him. Nobody would fight Sunday. I didn't go well when they did fight. I mean, yeah, sunny listen till, you know, a really young guy named Cash's Clay. Yeah. Well, it made him. But he's sunny never got enough credit for his. He was bad at the bone, man. Mm-hmm. I tell you what's funny, do you remember Emil Griffith? Uh-huh. Right. Remember he was in the boxing match, Benny Kidpret. Yep. Right. So I was at the, uh, plan of the Hollywood in New York years ago, right? And I'm walking the adept phenomenal body on Emil Griffith's day. And I'm walking out the door and this guy is shining shoes. And I go, you know, Griffith. Yeah, man. It's a guy that's a big fan here. Can I do your shoes? I mean, it's just a shame. Wow. It was a shame. I mean, the guy was phenomenal. Incredible. Yeah. All time great. Anyway, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, it's the story is that Paret called him, mentioned how you... You know, Griffith. Yeah. He really did. I watched the fight. Yeah. I was at a night of the fight. Yeah. I watched it. Griffith, what about you? I tell you what, I was working with Jake trying to make sure everything was all good. I was like a liaison and Pete walks in, he's smoking cigarettes in the locker room. Yeah. And I'm telling Trill, I'm like, you guys have this comedian in your chain smoking and Jake's got to come in here and warm up. He can't have a smoky room. I said, get him out of here. Yeah. So he got out of there and they've abriased it and then he comes in and he was like, kind of mocking everyone to their face and like, you know... Yeah. Huh. Yeah. That's starting to get work. Yeah, like a different... Didn't go out with the boxing guys. Yeah. The old school. I think BJ wanted to hit him in the ear, but he didn't catch him. Yeah. Kind of, everybody was the thing, uh, souped all with the... The souped all, yeah. Ricky Ross. So Jake said, when he knocked him out, he could hear a souped all yelling. Yeah. Because there was no audience. It was just me. There wasn't many people there. No. I know. Hmm. What do you think about Jake Paul and his boxing career? Um, well, I was supposed to go to that fight last Monday, last one of my... The one I got canceled? Yeah. Yeah. Um, he's a tough kid, both of his kids are tough. Yeah. I mean, I know for a fact, but I shouldn't say it, but I don't mind. People, they'll, he pulled up on Mike. Uh-huh. He could have, he could have, we're done some damage to Mike. 30 years difference in age. I don't care. Yeah. Mike's 57 or 58. Yeah. And his 30, what? Jake's 20. Yeah. 20, yeah. I mean, 30 years. I don't care how tough you are. And Mike, Mike, were you gotten shaped with that? Mike was one of the six miles of day and trimmed down. And, you know, but you're still not going to be the same with 57. No. The, the Paul guys are tough kids. Yeah. They both are. Now he's got a fight coming up in Miami next month. He's fighting Anthony Joshua, the six foot six, two time heavyweight champion. Joshua's a 15 to one favorite. Oh, Joshua. With, with gloves on? Yeah, 10 ounce pro. Oh, wow. So you actually boxed them. Yep, on Netflix. Yeah. Is he going to, uh, Joshua? Yep, heavyweight. Oh, God. Well, I'd be surprised as Josh was. Yeah. But you never know when the Paul gets. They're tough. Yeah. I think it's a one round fight. I have no idea anymore. Yeah. The public seems to think it's a big mismatch. Yeah, but that's what they do. They're trying to get you to bet. Yeah, yeah. But it's a pro sanction. I mean, it's 10 ounce gloves. Yeah. I don't know. I'll go talk to them. Yeah. Are you going to, uh, you're going to catch it maybe? Well, they wanted me to walk the ring with those last time. Oh, wow. That's Friday. Yeah. If they invite me again, I will. Okay. All right. We'll be there. The team. Oh, yeah. It's my good friend for a long time, Jake. It was honor and privilege to sit down with you. Thank you. Get your time, the nature boy. And for the cameras, can we get one last? Woo. Thanks, guys. Great show. Great time. What's up, guys? Missed exact here after a legendary interview with the nature boy, Rick Flair. We couldn't let you go without giving you the picks of the week. To start off, I like the Seattle Siocs over in Tennessee Titans. The Seattle Siocs are a team that I've talked about all year. I touted them as a potential super bowl threat. I said they were a good pick at plus 1300 to win the NFC. And I think it's been going well ever since their odds. And creeping up in that area. And also, they have been winning games. Last week, tough game in Los Angeles, the Ram's, the division rival. But I take positives out of that. Against the two Los Ram's team, they were right in the thick of it until the very end, with a quarterback and Sam Darnold who threw for four interceptions. I don't see that happening again against the Tennessee Titans team. And I also don't see this Tennessee Titans team being able to serve my eyes or some mount. Any type of offense against a dominant Seattle Siocs defense. It's been revitalized. They're in a totally different era with head coach Mike McDonald. They acquire the market storms from the Dallas Cowboys. They get linear Williams. They have a dominant defensive line. They have a great secondary led by young corner to requelin. And I think it's going to be a tough day for the Tennessee Titans. I like the Seattle Siocs minus 13. My second pick of the week is the Dallas Cowboys against the Philadelphia Eagles. This spreads three and a half in the Eagles direction. The over under is 47 and a half. And when I look at this line, I like the Cowboys with the over. A lot of people have been hitting the under and that's because the Eagles offense has struggled in the Dallas Cowboys defense. Looked revitalized against a poor Raiders offense, but a Raiders offense. They acquired Quinnian Williams at the trade deadline. They dealt with the tragedy of Martian Neelan. Seemed to respond really strongly. But this offense, I think, is going to put up points better than most teams. They've got 1A and 1B and CDLAM and George Pickens. There's not too many casinos in Philly. So I think these guys will be ready for game day. I like the Cowboys plus 9.5 along with over 41.5. My final pick of the week is the Carolina Panthers against the San Francisco 49ers. A lot of the times when I'm looking at lines, I think the 49ers are a bit inflated. They've had a lot of success this decade. This is a team that's been just super bowl. But I think they're riding up the co-chails of their previous defenses. They've had guys like the Forest Buckner in the building. Previously, they had a healthy Nick Bosa, a healthy Fred Warner. That's no longer the case. This is a struggling defense going against the Carolina Panthers team. That's looked a lot better this year. They draft McMillan in the first round. They acquire Rico Dattles. And what else did they do? They got Bryce Young going. He was throwing the ball deep last week. He had 450 passing yards. It looks really good. Probably his best career performance as a professional. This is the guy who's the number one overall pick. Seemed to be finally putting it together a little bit. I like the Carolina Panthers plus 7 going into San Francisco 49ers. Those are my picks of the week right here on double coverage. 500 orders a month was manageable. Fast-thousand is madness. Embrace intelligent, order fulfillment with ShipStation. The only platform combining order management, where-house workflows, inventory, returns and analytics in one place. 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