When Evil Calls: A Psychic Medium Battles Evil
46 min
•Feb 25, 20263 months agoSummary
William Stillman, a psychic medium with 13 years of experience, discusses his book 'Under Spiritual Siege' which educates people on distinguishing between ghosts, spirits, and demonic entities. He shares personal experiences with paranormal activity and explains how negative environments, addiction, and abuse create conditions for spiritual attachment and demonic influence.
Insights
- Demonic activity consistently correlates with household abuse and addiction patterns, suggesting a psychological-spiritual intersection that psychiatry may be overlooking in schizophrenia and bipolar diagnoses
- People experiencing paranormal disturbances often model their responses on horror movies and TV shows, which can escalate rather than resolve spiritual situations
- Spiritual attachment and demonic influence require personal lifestyle changes and faith-based intervention rather than third-party exorcism or investigation
- Vulnerability to spiritual siege stems from unresolved trauma, low self-esteem, and self-destructive coping mechanisms across multiple behavioral domains
- Demonic entities are fundamentally deceptive and imperfect, always making errors when impersonating loved ones or creating false apparitions
Trends
Growing intersection of mental health diagnosis and spiritual/paranormal explanations for psychiatric symptomsIncreased public interest in paranormal investigation through media consumption driving amateur engagement in dangerous practicesRising demand for spiritual guidance and home cleansing services outside traditional religious institutionsCorrelation between substance abuse, domestic violence, and reported paranormal activity suggesting environmental toxicity as catalystShift toward empowerment-based spiritual coaching rather than dependency on professional paranormal investigatorsRecognition of childhood trauma and bullying as vulnerability factors for spiritual attachment and negative entity influence
Topics
Distinguishing ghosts from demons and spiritual entitiesDemonic possession warning signs and household manifestationsParanormal investigation methodology and amateur ghost hunting risksSpiritual attachment and entity detachment processesRole of addiction and abuse in attracting negative spiritual energyPsychic mediumship and clairvoyant abilities developmentMental health misdiagnosis in cases of spiritual assaultFaith-based spiritual protection and home cleansing techniquesChildhood sensitivity and paranormal ability recognitionThe Hat Man entity and widespread sightingsOuija board use and occult practice dangersSleep disturbances and night terrors as paranormal indicatorsHousehold pet behavior as spiritual communicationDemonic escalation patterns in family environmentsLifestyle modifications for spiritual siege resolution
Companies
Pennsylvania Paranormal Association
Organization where William Stillman served as investigative resource for paranormal cases and home investigations
Amazon
Platform where Stillman's book 'Under Spiritual Siege' is sold for under $15
People
William Stillman
Psychic medium with 13 years experience, author of 'Under Spiritual Siege', paranormal investigator for Pennsylvania ...
The Amazing Kreskin
Mentalist referenced as prominent figure in 1970s ESP and psychic entertainment landscape during Stillman's formative...
Gene Dixon
Well-known psychic and astrologer referenced as influential figure in paranormal field during 1970s-80s era
Ronald DeFeo Jr.
Teenage perpetrator of Amityville Horror murders, cited as example of dark interest leading to demonic influence and ...
Quotes
"Knowledge is power and helping people to reclaim their spirituality and to feel that they can have faith in their faith such that they can clear their own home of negative spiritual energies."
William Stillman•Early in episode
"Demons are a whole other animal because they have not been human. They reject God, they are in servitude to the great deceiver, and they have a single agenda of total destruction."
William Stillman•Mid-episode
"In every single instance where I have been called in to an investigation and I've surmised that it's demonic activity, there has been abuse and addiction in that household."
William Stillman•Mid-episode
"You don't need a third party. You need to have faith in your faith and work on making adjustments and improvements to your personal lifestyle."
William Stillman•Late episode
"If you're under spiritual siege, you can either feed it or you can starve it."
William Stillman•Late episode
Full Transcript
Hi there, I'm K-Town, and on this edition of Mysterious Radio. I came to the decision to write this particular book because I was encountering people who were struggling with symptoms that were indicators of a greater syndrome, and the greater syndrome is that of a haunting or a demonic attack. In my work as a psychic medium, which I've been doing for going on 13 years now, I have also served as an investigative resource to the Pennsylvania Paranormal Association. I am living in Pennsylvania now. And I have also done private consultations in people's homes to help them to understand what it means to be under spiritual siege. And what I came to learn was that a lot of these folks who are in this very challenging, very disturbing and alarming situation have come to gather information about their situation from horror movies and television programming that is exaggerated and oftentimes highly sensationalized. And so what I found was that a lot of folks tended to feel as though they needed to do their own investigation and they were attempting to make videos or audio recordings or otherwise engage with whatever was causing these disruptions and sleep disturbances and cold drafts and electrical disturbances. And these are the folks that are the absolute last people that should be doing that. And so Under Spiritual Siege, the book is really a book about empowering people. I'm a firm believer that knowledge is power and helping people to reclaim their spirituality and to feel that they can have faith in their faith such that they can clear their own home of negative spiritual energies. So that was really why I wrote the book. And I'd like to think that it is a very basic fundamental primer or handbook for people who are really trying to figure out what's what. I talk about what is a ghost, what is a spirit, what is demonic energy, and how do these things manifest in our lives, what do they feed from, what do they thrive on, and how we can rebuke them. So that was my rationale for writing the book. Very good. When you said there were people that were investigating, I guess, some things that were going on in their own home, correct? Well, what I said was that I have encountered folks who felt as though they were trying to emulate what they saw in horror movies and on paranormal television shows. Got you, got you. So these were paranormal investigators? No, they were not. These were the people who lived in the homes that were under spiritual siege. And so their model for how to address the situation was horror movies and paranormal TV shows. They were themselves attempting to engage with whatever was creating the activity, which is not something that you should do. Wow, how interesting that you say that. I have actually heard many people say that paranormal investigators are experiencing negative things like attachments and things like that. So that's that's interesting that these people are emulating ghost hunter type things to try and figure out what's going on with their particular situation. Wow. Can you give us some insight on how your abilities made you aware of ghosts and demonic forces around you as a child? Well, I was an exquisitely, intensely, painfully sensitive little boy. I grew up in the 1960s and 70s, and I can remember hearing Peter, Paul, and Mary singing, Where Have All the Flowers Gone? Where Have All the Soldiers Gone? And just bursting into tears as a very little boy. So somehow something inside me understood the overarching message of that song and Puff the Magic Dragon and some of the Beatles songs and so on. Probably my earliest memory of the degree of that sensitivity was being about six years old and sitting in a church pew and sobbing and not being able to contain my emotions and overhearing my parents whispering back and forth. And they finally just sort of picked me up and we walked out in the middle of the church service, which shocked me. I wasn't expecting that. And I never told anyone why I was so emotional, but there was a reason. I had been staring up and off to my left at a glorious, terrible stained glass window of the crucifixion. And at six years old, I was grieving for the pain that Christ endured. So I think that's pretty darn sensitive for a child that young. And so as a little boy, there were some very unusual things that were happening around me. And I had some very vivid dreams that I still remember to this day. And then when I was on the precipice of adolescence, about 11 years old or so, Because I was so sensitive and I was not physically agile or athletic, I really became very much odd man out among my school peers. and for about seven or eight years of my life on almost a daily basis, I was verbally abused and physically harassed and my speech and my body language were openly mocked and mimicked in front of cafeteria staff and school bus drivers and teachers who did nothing to prevent it from happening. So what ended up occurring for me was that instead of having faith in my faith, I began to reflect back what other people were projecting upon me. And I became very hard and ugly and cold and bitter and cynical. And I became attracted to dark things. And I would imagine that a lot of people listening to me on your program can relate to this, having been bullied. And then, you know, I didn't take the high road only because I really didn't have anyone to model what that would look like for me. And I didn't have any real resources at my disposal. So I became very much attracted to dark things. Now, at that time, when I was growing up, The Exorcist, the film, had just been released, and it was extremely controversial, and I remember it being discussed in church. And you had what was called ESP at that time, extrasensory perception, which encompassed all things clairvoyant and psychic. You had the amazing Kreskin, who was a mentalist, and God bless him, he's still around doing his thing. And you had Gene Dixon, who was a well-known psychic and astrologer. And then everything else got lumped into the category of the occult. And so that included ghosts, demons, werewolves, vampires, witchcraft, and that's the stuff that I became drawn to very much. And I began getting all kinds of books out of the library on these topics. and I would send away for witchcraft catalogs that would sell candles and devices and spells and incantations and things of that nature. And it was around that time that I began to receive nightly visits from the dark man. And it would start with my lying in bed, trying to fall asleep, and I would hear his footsteps. And then in my mind's eye, I would see him standing in my bedroom doorway. And he was about six and a half feet to seven feet tall. He showed himself to me as a black silhouette, a long floor-length black coat, and a broad-brimmed black hat. and he communicated to me telepathically, and his sole intention was to seduce me, to join forces with him, and to recruit me to do his bidding, and in return, I was promised power over my tormentors. So as you can imagine, that was a very, very attractive proposition. I also need to be very clear in communicating that while this was very unnerving to me, he was not in the least terrifying or frightening to me. that would have been the reversal of what his intention was. His intention was not to alarm me. Again, his intention was to recruit me. And it was also at this time that I developed in my right palm, in the center of my right palm, a red mark that my mother ended up taking me to the family doctor for. and the family doctor had never seen anything like it and was at a loss to explain what it was. So in researching this book I was shocked to learn that many many other people have also seen this same entity and he has a name he been dubbed the Hat Man And I thought maybe I had imagined him but I realize now that there have been hundreds if not thousands of people that have seen him as well. And I also read in the book of Revelations as part of the New Testament that the mark in the center of the right palm is actually associated with the beast, if you will. And so all of these things were happening to me and around me at that time. And I actually thought I could cast spells, and I was telling those classmates that would listen about this. And I remember being out on the recess playground, you know, trying to make myself seem special, trying to make myself seem very unique or gifted. And there were a bunch of boys, maybe four or five yards away, who were having a big pile-on fistfight. And a couple of the kids that were listening to me talk about my quote-unquote secret powers said, well, if you're a witch, then cast a spell and break up that fight. And so I began to recite what I thought was some kind of spell. And in the precise moment that I stopped doing that, this gust of wind swept across the playground that stank like cow manure, and it sent everybody scattering, and it broke up the fight. And it really impressed these couple of kids that were with me, and they believed me at that point, and I began to believe it myself. and so I really entered into this very dark period of time that in hindsight was very much a downward spiral because I developed post-traumatic stress disorder and probably most significantly I developed a very severe depression and I came very close to slashing my wrists which is exactly what this negative energy, the dark man wanted. This is what he wanted. And in my darkest moment, as I'm home alone, and I'm contemplating my father's straight razor, something somehow, somewhere inside me, this pinpoint of light, this little glimmer of hope said, no no don't do this someday people will know who you are for what it is that you have to offer them and at that time i had absolutely no idea of what that meant or what that would look like but i know now what that meant and i hung in there and i somehow powered through it And things eventually got better, and I am actually indebted to those dark energies because now I use it and I employ it to my advantage in order to illuminate the truth for other people. Awesome. Awesome. Looking back on that experience, William, do you think that was a step to the beginning of a demonic possession? I think it very well could have been. I wanted to be demonically possessed like the little girl in The Exorcist. I wanted to be seen as special and mysterious and unique. And I think it very, very well could have led to that. Certainly not as spectacular as what is portrayed in that film or even, you know, I haven't really seen any other films like it since then. although I know there have been a number of motion pictures that have addressed the concept of demonic possession. It's just not something that I care to look at. But I think that in a very subtle way, yes. I'm really curious as to the extent of your awareness as a child. What other kinds of manifestations, if any, were you experiencing? And were all your experiences with spirits negative? No, they weren't. But I grew up in a house where there were some very peculiar things that happened. And I found out later that a former owner had hung himself in the garage. So, you know, there were a couple of instances where things went missing and were never found again. I remember having just extremely vivid dreams. And one of them, there was some sort of human form that was hovering above me and it struck me. And in that moment, I fell out of bed and woke up and I've never fallen out of bed before or since. So that was very odd. But there were some other things that were not unpleasant. I had a couple of dreams in which I was on my front lawn and I was picking up coins out of the grass. And the very next day, I would do that in real time. and wondering how on earth all of these pennies got in the grass. It was just very strange. But again, I must have been protected somehow, some way, spiritually. I know I must have been because there were so many things that I was doing that should have really escalated in a very dramatic and negative way. I was messing around with a Ouija board on a regular basis. And as I said, I was reading up on witchcraft and so on. And I'm in my 50s now, so things have gotten so much better. And in my work as a psychic medium, there have just been so many truly extraordinary and amazing things that have happened. And I know that I am blessed and privileged. And again, I am actually grateful to have undergone the experiences that I did because it gave me so much insight in perspective for those people who are struggling and who are under spiritual siege. Just last night, I was doing a number of private psychic reading sessions for folks, and my very last client was having a terrific reading. And before I do anything of that nature, I spend time in prayer and meditation, and I also set up sort of a shield of protection around the space in which I'm working. And so the last thing that she said to me, she had a really great session, but she said, I'm living in a haunted house. And I felt sort of surprised that I hadn't picked up on that. But then I realized, well, all that I was doing in preparation was defending and deflecting anything that was not for the greater good of the highest order. So then I realized, well, of course, we were being protected. And she pulled out probably half a dozen photographs that she had taken in her home. I've seen some pretty unusual, bizarre pictures in my time, but these were at the top of the list. There were pictures in which there were like shadow shaped people, the pictures of a room where it looked like it was just filled with hazy strands of cigarette smoke. She told me that there had been six children murdered in the house. There were pictures that she showed me of bloody footsteps on hardwood floors. And she said her home is well known. It's well documented. And I said, well, you know, obviously I don't have to tell you, you know, you need to get people in there to clear it. She said that's been done many, many times and it's never happened. It's never, you know, nothing's ever been remediated as a result of all of that. So we had a lengthy discussion about that. But my past experiences have helped me in knowing how to counsel people about situations like that. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. It's astonishing to me that you have people that can live in a home and know that it has such a history. I know that I couldn't do it. So let me ask you this. Now, you wrote in your book, what are some things concerning ghosts that people might not be aware of in terms of how they affect our lives in a negative way? Ghosts, we must understand, first of all, that in my opinion and in my experience, a ghost is the soul energy of a human being that has divorced itself from the physical by virtue of the dying process. Now, I am also of the opinion that we don't all transition to the heavenly realm immediately, instantly. I think as much as we have free will and as much as we are all unique individuals, I also think that we probably have a lot of say and a lot of free will with respect to the time frame in which we transition to the heavenly realm once we die. I think that's probably a very individualized process. And so I think that there are people who die very suddenly and very unexpectedly in a tragedy. And so there's a period of time in which there's some confusion or disorientation about, hey, what just happened here? And why isn't my body animated any longer? And why don't people hear me? And why is it that I can go where I want to go just by thinking of it? don't have to drive there or walk there. And I think that those folks are technically, quote unquote, ghosts for the period of time that it takes to sort of clear up their confusion or their disorientation. Now, there are folks who have been raised to believe in a very vengeful, very wrathful, very punitive God. There are people who believe that they may be punished or rejected or sent to hell. And there's a great fear factor there. So those folks may try to hang on to some semblance of human existence. And then you have what I have encountered, a lot of very bitter, very angry young people, particularly young teenage boys and young men who have passed tragically as a result of a DUI type of situation or a drug overdose situation. And it is the heaviness of their very raging negative human emotions that holds them back and keeps them so egocentric and so focused on self that they are not in a place to transition. So that in my opinion what constitute ghost now it is a half existence and I feel as though I can say that with some authority because in the time that I was reclaiming my spirituality, I was being mentored and tutored by a spirit guide. And as part of that, I was being instructed in nightly dreams, and I was being given problems to solve, and I was being shown various experiences in dreams. And one of those experiences that I was very blessed and fortunate to have been given was to experience what it felt like to be a ghost. So that gave me great perspective, and it also gave me great compassion because it is a half existence. It is not a whole existence. It is a half existence. You're going to see yourself as you did when you were human. You're going to project that toward others. That's why ghosts are wearing clothes or they're looking like the person perceives themselves to look in that time period. And you're going to try to form allyships. You're going to do what you can to feel whole and human again. And so there are instances where people will attach to human beings, people meaning ghosts. So this is why if someone was an alcoholic, if someone was a drug abuser, they will gravitate toward those individuals who are still abusing and using because if they attach closely enough to that person, it approximates what they knew as a human being. So that's ghost. You speak of attachments, which was my very next question. How do people free themselves from an attachment? Well, they need to recognize it for what it is, number one. And I'm not sure that people do. I'm not sure that the average layperson is open-minded enough to recognize that there is some sort of an attachment there that is antagonizing, that is affecting their mood, that is affecting their relationships, that is causing them to perpetuate negativity. either through their behavior or through their addictions. And so I think that the first step to acknowledging that is that it is possible. When I see attachments in my work as a psychic medium, I see them on people as huge three-foot-long black leeches hanging off of them, just sucking them dry of any kind of negative or positive energy. And so I think that that's the first step. The second step is the release of these attachments is not something that someone can do for you. I can facilitate a process by which I'm giving you information, but I can assist you in doing it, but I can't do it for you completely. You have to want it and you have to engage in the process with me. And a big piece of that process is having faith in your faith and acknowledging a higher power because we need the support and the assistance of that higher power to detach the attachments. Understood. What got you into investigating homes, which I found to be surprising as well. A lot of mediums don't actually do that. But what got you into that particular part of the spiritual world? Well, I think certainly my background, as we've discussed, I felt empowered to be able to do that. And it was just a situation that I encountered in my work, and I felt that my work is all about being of service to people. And I have just been ridiculously blessed and privileged in life. As I said, going on 54 years old, I've never been seriously ill. I've never been in a serious accident of any kind. I've never been hospitalized for any reason. I've never had a broken bone. I've never had an operation of any kind. I've always had money when I've needed it. I've just been outrageously blessed. And I think that that comes with great responsibility when you have had and enjoyed such incredible good fortune in your life. So I feel a tremendous responsibility to do what I am and to render service to others when and where possible. there is nothing that anything negative can do to me or can show me that I haven't already seen. I've already seen how horrible and ugly and nasty and pornographic it can be. There's nothing that they can do that will shock me. And I have walked into rooms, I have been in people's homes where I have seen stuff scatter because it knows the power that I bring coming in, and it knows who I'm there representing with authority. But again, my job is not to fix it and make it better for other people. My job is to engage them in a process and to pass the torch in helping them to feel empowered, to reclaim their living environment and their lives in some cases. I mean, I've walked into homes where people, you know, they're showing me video, they're showing me pictures, they're showing me audio. On one occasion, a woman was showing me pictures of where she had been bitten and scratched. And the scratches are always in strikes of three to mock the Holy Trinity. The bites that I've seen saw in her flesh looked like the size of a baby's mouth. You know, some pretty awful, pretty terrible stuff. and none of it, not once, have I ever been personally frightened. William, do people really need a third party to help them clear their home or is there something that they can do themselves to get rid of these things? Yes. Get my book. That's why I wrote the book. No, you don't need a third party. You don't. That's why I wanted to empower people with this book and it's really inexpensive. It's under $15. on Amazon. No, my book tells you all about it. And then it tells you how to empower yourself and then how to heal other people and how to recognize your own personal spiritual gifts and talents that we've all been blessed with. So everything I could possibly tell you is in this book. And even if you don't get the book, no, you don't need a third party. But what you do need to do is not what they do on the paranormal TV shows. You need to just, you need to have faith in your faith. You need to work on making adjustments and improvements to your personal lifestyle and that of the people who live with you. And you need to call upon all of God's benevolent resources to assist you. But it's not a once and done thing. It is a lifestyle that you have to adopt. You have to put and invest personal time and energy into creating positive change. So if you tell me that you're not going to that you're not going to discontinue looking at pornography or that you can't stop watching horror movies, I can't help you. That's your personal choice. And if you're under spiritual siege, you can either feed it or you can starve it. Fantastic. That's why I wanted to ask you. I know you put the exclamation point on it. You bet. You bet. It really is about creating. It's recognizing it for what it is. And then you've you've got to create those lifestyle changes. I can't do that for you. It's not my home. I don't live there. You do. You do. You live there. You make it your space and you do what you need to to create a positive, loving environment that is free from abuse, that is free from addiction, that is free from temptations. And you're home free. I promise you. William, first explain what are demons? Yes. Well, we talked before the break about what are ghosts. Demons are a whole other animal. With a ghost, remember, it's the soul energy of someone who had been a living, breathing human being. So with ghosts, you can appeal to them. You can attempt to rationalize with them because they've been human. And while there's no such thing as ghost rehab, we can have compassion for them. Demons are a whole other animal because they have not been human. they reject God, they are in servitude to the great deceiver, the greatest deceiver of them all, and they have a single agenda of total destruction. This is what they thrive on, this is what they feed on. And so in a living environment, if there is a demonic activity, the sole agenda of the demons is to escalate the negativity in the household to the point where the stage is set for a suicide or a murder-suicide situation. Wow, unbelievable. That gives me chills. Did you not know that? No, not at all. Oh, my goodness. What I must tell you is that every single situation where I have been called in to an investigation to to ascertain what's happening for folks in their home. And I've I've surmised that it's demonic activity in every single instance. There has been abuse and addiction in that household. Well, I did not know that. Absolutely. Well, knowledge is power. So now, you know, but that's what feeds it. It's like a dog that chases its tail. It's the vicious cycle. One thing feeds the next, and it gets deeper and deeper and bigger and bigger and more abusive and more addictive until, you know, in the worst case scenario, somebody takes out their whole family and commits suicide or, you know, someone hangs themselves or something very horribly tragic happens. And if you do your research or you interview people who have experienced addiction oftentimes they will say that they heard these horrible voices other than the voice that we all have that we think of our own that we talk ourselves through things They heard voices telling them to harm themselves or to harm others Wow And so I think that, yeah, well, it's very real and it's happening to many, many people as we speak. And I think that there at some point in time needs to be a merging of current affairs in psychiatry with this concept, because a lot of folks would get diagnosed as schizophrenic because they're having auditory hallucinations. Or they might get diagnosed as bipolar because they're seen as perhaps manic and having these very grandiose, very unusual ideas about who they are or what's going on around them. And that's band-aiding the situation because there's going to be pharmaceuticals that get prescribed that may help someone to sort of level out a bit. But it does not take away from the fact that they're still undergoing some sort of psychological or even spiritual assault. You know what? I wonder how many people have been diagnosed with schizophrenia and maybe their third eye is just open up for some reason. Or their third eye is open and they are undisciplined and uncertain or unaware of how to control it. And so they're letting in all kinds of negative stuff for not knowing how to say no. Right. And, you know, a lot of times there is a great, and I know because I've worked on the periphery of the psychiatric field for going on 30 years. Next year it'll be 30 years. And so I've been in psych wards. I've been in mental hospitals. And I know that there is oftentimes a significant degree of self-injury, people attempting to gouge their eyes out. Well, why is that? People scratching themselves, people biting themselves. And I think oftentimes the self-infliction of pain is maybe one way to create a distraction for yourself or a focal point for yourself away from the other stuff that's plaguing you. If you think about it, sometimes when you're experiencing pain, you may create another pain because you can control the pain you create and it creates a diversion or a distraction from the pain you can't control. Right, right. Understood. Very good, very good. I would like for you to break down how one can identify the presence of demons. Right. The symptoms can be similar to those of a haunting. So we're talking about cold drafts. We're talking about maybe a select room in the living environment that never seems to get warm. We're talking about electrical disturbances, cell phones, televisions, radios turning on and off, kitchen appliances, things malfunctioning on a regular basis, computers scrambling on a regular basis. We're talking about sleep disturbances, people who are having nightmares or night terrors on a regular basis, usually between midnight and 3 a.m. We're talking about household pets that appear to be tracking something unseen or household pets that refuse to go in a certain place of the house or will have an accident in that place. In my opinion, that's a form of communication. But we're also talking about, when we're talking about demonic assault, we're talking about, again, people hearing voices that are evil sounding, that have evil intention. People may see replicas of a loved one, but because the demons are imperfect, they will always get something wrong about it. So do not trust any apparition of your grandma that is telling you to harm yourself or harm others. It is inauthentic. Go ahead, dear. No, no, no. You go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. So we're also talking about, again, escalations in the or deterioration in the behavior of people living in the household such that there is always stress. There is always tension. There's always arguing. One or more people in the household may have an addiction. There may be physical and verbal and psychological abuse going on. So my concern is that people know they're living in a bad situation, but they may not see a collection of symptoms that are indicators of one syndrome. They may just be seeing all of these little things in isolation, which is the way of the demons. They're very deceptive. They're very duplicitous. They're very cowardly in that they will attack children. They will target innocence. And they will also target people who have a lot of power and a lot of wealth and a lot of fame as well. Now, I'm trying to get a handle on how it starts. Now, you talk a lot about negative environments. Can they manifest themselves in negative environments? And also, in terms of, you know, the contact. I mean, is it if somebody is doing this, is contact initiated from their side or is it initiated from the human side? Well, I think it could be both. I mean, you look at what happened to me and you look at that period in my life where I became very much drawn to or attracted to very dark things. So I think in that instance, I may have inadvertently invited something or initiated something. You look at a situation like the Amityville Horror case and the DeFeo family. Are you familiar with that story? Yes, I am. The DeFeo family? Right. So there was a teenage boy who was very much attracted to demonology and very much interested in very dark material, a dark subject matter, and ended up wiping out his entire family. You can't enact that kind of horrific tragedy and not leave some sort of imprint on that environment that could be triggered by someone else living there who is also very weak, very vulnerable, very susceptible to addiction. So I think it's a two-way street. Now, I'm misremembering the first portion of your question, which was, I think, how it begins. Right. Yeah, I think that varies. Again, I think that we are constantly at risk of being under spiritual siege every moment of every day. I think that there are probably angels that are doing battle on our behalf throughout each day, because I think each one of us being human and having free will is vulnerable to temptation of all kinds. And I think that it's important that we have a strong spiritual connection so that we exercise good judgment and that we have a conscience about right and wrong. But I think that those of us who are weak, those of us who are vulnerable, are probably most susceptible to being under spiritual siege because we tend to placate our weaknesses, our lack of self-esteem, our poor self-image in ways that could be self-destructive. And so we talked at length about addiction that could look like pornography, that could look like alcoholism, that could look like abuse of prescription medication, that could look like illegal substances of all kinds, that could look like gambling or running up credit card bills for things you don't need and don't have the money to buy. It could look like overeating or binging on all the wrong foods that you know are not healthy for you. It could look like manipulating other people in order to make you feel important. So it gets in in many ways, and I think it starts oftentimes very slowly, very deliberately, and very gradually. And finally, I want to ask you, William, what are the steps necessary to start the process to combat such evil? Yeah, you've got to have faith in your faith. In my opinion, in my experience, you've got to acknowledge and recognize a higher power and surrender to that higher power because God truly has your back. God wants to see us succeed. God wants us to be of service to others. And in my opinion, there's just no other way around it. that's the way out. And once you come to that recognition, I feel as though there's strength in that acknowledgement. There is power and authority in that acknowledgement. And no one's a victim. No one's a victim. All right. That's all the time we have for tonight. William, I want to give you an opportunity to tell our listeners where they can find more information about you. Well, I've enjoyed our time. I'm grateful to you for the invitation to come on your program. And I hope that our discussion has been of service in illuminating the truth to any number of people listening. So I thank you so much for having me. If people want to learn more about me and my work, my website is simply my name, which is williamstillman.com. My last name is S-T-I-L-L-M-A-N, just like it sounds, WilliamStillman.com. If people are interested in receiving my daily original inspirational quotes that I get in my prayers, I post one each morning on my Facebook page. And the link to my Facebook page is in the upper left corner of the homepage of my website, WilliamStillman.com. absolutely I want to thank you for joining me tonight on Mysterious Radio William thank you very much for that I'm grateful for your having me thank you so much to find out more about our guest and all others please visit our website at mysteriousradio.com