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#130 - Everyone Wants Us To Talk About This

75 min
Feb 9, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Smosh Mouth episode featuring curated topics pitched by Smosh staff members, covering pop culture interests ranging from K-pop and BTS to TV shows like Lost and Heated Rivalry, conspiracy theories including the Montauk Project and JFK assassination theories, and niche interests like Rubik's Cube solving and bidets.

Insights
  • Physical comedy and non-verbal storytelling remain universally funny and timeless across generations, as evidenced by I Love Lucy's continued relevance and shows like Primal
  • Conspiracy theories often lead to harmful ideologies; the psychological connection between fringe beliefs and extremism warrants deeper sociological study
  • K-pop represents a modern resurgence of choreographed pop culture similar to 1990s-2000s boy bands like NSYNC, suggesting cyclical trends in entertainment preferences
  • TV pilot episodes are critical to show success; Lost's pilot is considered one of television's best for establishing multiple characters and world-building simultaneously
  • Streaming and prestige TV have elevated previously niche shows like Deep Space Nine to critical reassessment, changing how audiences discover and value older content
Trends
Resurgence of choreographed pop music and boy band culture through K-pop mainstream adoptionCritical re-evaluation of older TV shows (Deep Space Nine, I Love Lucy) as prestige dramas gain cultural legitimacyIncreased audience interest in LGBTQ+ representation in mainstream media (Heated Rivalry, Black Sails)Conspiracy theory rabbit holes increasingly leading to radicalization and extremist ideologiesNon-dialogue storytelling gaining traction in prestige animation (Primal, Samurai Jack legacy)Nostalgia-driven content consumption with 10-year retrospectives becoming social media trendBidet adoption and sustainable bathroom practices gaining mainstream acceptance in Western marketsAnime and international content influencing Western entertainment preferences and storytelling techniques
Topics
K-pop Music Industry and BTS Military ServiceTV Pilot Episode Excellence and Lost Series AnalysisConspiracy Theories and Radicalization PathwaysJFK Assassination Theories and Historical RevisionismLGBTQ+ Representation in Mainstream TelevisionPhysical Comedy and Non-Verbal StorytellingPrestige TV Drama Evolution and Deep Space NineMovie and TV Tropes (Enemies to Lovers, Girl Disguised as Boy)I Love Lucy's Television Innovation and SyndicationMontauk Project Government Conspiracy TheoriesJohnny Appleseed Historical Facts vs MythologyBidet Adoption and Sustainable Bathroom PracticesSports Curses and Superstitions (Cubs, Cowboys, Broncos)Rubik's Cube Solving CompetitionsHigh School Musical 20-Year Anniversary Cultural Impact
Companies
Shopify
E-commerce platform sponsor offering templates, AI descriptions, inventory management, and shipping solutions for onl...
AG1
Nutritional supplement brand providing multivitamins, probiotics, and superfoods in single-scoop format
Tavala
Smart meal delivery service with proprietary smart oven that steams, bakes, and broils fresh meals
Smalls
Preservative-free cat food delivery service with protein-packed recipes delivered to customers' doors
Desilu Studios
Production studio founded by Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball that pioneered multi-camera filming system and syndication
Netflix
Streaming platform hosting shows like K-pop Demon Hunters, The Octopus Murders, and Heated Rivalry
People
Lucille Ball
I Love Lucy star and co-founder of Desilu Studios; pioneered multi-camera system and syndication in television
Desi Arnaz
I Love Lucy co-star and Desilu Studios co-founder; invented multi-camera filming system for television
Justin Timberlake
NSYNC member discussed for his solo career success and controversial treatment of Britney Spears
Britney Spears
Pop star whose mistreatment by media and industry figures represents major millennial cultural failure
Johnny Appleseed
Historical figure who planted cider apple seeds across America; practiced Swedenborgianism and wore pot as hat
JFK (John F. Kennedy)
U.S. President whose assassination remains subject of conspiracy theories including driver shooting theory
Marilyn Monroe
Actress whose relationship with JFK is subject of ongoing conspiracy theories and unreleased government documents
Thanos
Marvel villain praised as well-developed antagonist with believable motivations and character depth
Zac Efron
High School Musical star whose career launched from the Disney Channel musical phenomenon
Abby Lee Miller
Dance Moms instructor representing problematic industry adults; example of toxic mentorship in entertainment
Quotes
"If someone shows up covered in oil helping me, I'm trusting them."
ShanePirates/Shipwrecks discussion
"Government doesn't need mind control and telepathy. Propaganda's worked pretty damn well for them."
AmandaMontauk Project conspiracy discussion
"The most plausible answer usually is the answer, but we don't want to accept that."
AmandaConspiracy theories discussion
"You have to really believe it. They need to both have their legitimate reasons."
AmandaEnemies to lovers trope discussion
"Physical comedy is so eternal and universal. Always."
ShaneI Love Lucy discussion
Full Transcript
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And it was so much fun. And I think pretty soon we're going to do a Kiana episode. Yeah. Where Kiana's going to come on and all of the topics are her pitches. Spoiler! Yeah. But we have a bunch here today. But before we get into this, how are you doing? I'm doing great. Nice. I was just saying, I feel, I don't know why January feels like the busiest month. It's like everyone in the world is like, okay, we rested. So we have to get back to everything. Like it feels like everyone is trying to do it all in January. It's kind of funny that you say that because January and February for me are always very slow, empty months for me. What? Whereas the summer and fall, October is always hell. It is the busiest month of my life. Same with September. September, October are nuts. And then January, February, it feels kind of like there's like a weird, it feels like low tide. And then March, it starts to pick up. And by May, it's like, okay, things are busy. And then my summers are always so busy. Whoa. I don't know why. It's not like I can foresee it. Maybe it's just my energy. Because I really slow down in December. Like I'm like peace out. I want to, but sometimes I can't. See, I think December and then early January were crazy because we did our Smosh Hospital live show. Yeah, we did. That I was creative director for. So like I'd been working on that. So cool. I'd been working on that. How long were you working on that for? I came up with the story pitch in June and I was talking to George Primavera back then and he was writing the script. I was like giving notes on it all throughout June and July and then started working on production of it. And like all the improv elements I was coming up with for like all of last year and meeting with Jeremy to like punch up the script and add things. And yeah. It was so much fun. It was really fun. You guys were doctors. If you haven't seen it, you guys were doctors. You guys were switching off with other castmates who were basically like your doppelganger. Like you guys became one. and then there were just surprise improv elements and I got to be one of them. Yeah. Keith and Noah and Anthony and Damien and Chance, we all got to be like, surprise, we're here and you guys didn't know it and that was actually really thrilling for us. I'll let you guys know if it becomes available again. I'm sure it will be available at some point. But to all those who watched it, thank you. That means so much. Yeah, the Letterboxd reviews are perfect. And then, but yeah, things are pretty chill right now. As of this airing, the Super Bowl was yesterday. Oh my God, I'm so glad they won. I know, I can't believe they won. Truthfully, realistically, if I'm a betting man, the Seahawks won. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl. What? If the Seahawks didn't win the Super Bowl, it was an upset and it was kind of crazy. What are you going to do if they didn't win? Well, if the Broncos won, I'm getting a perm. We know. If the Patriots won, I'm just really bummed out. So by this time, when this comes out, you're going to have a perm. Maybe not yet. I maybe need to grow my hair out more, but it's on its way. It's going to happen soon. So if the Broncos won, look forward to that. I can't wait. If the Patriots won, you're going full platinum. You're trimming your eyebrows off. No. You're getting a spray tan. No, but I'll do like a little fun slit in this eyebrow. You're going to do that? And then I'll make this one really, really thin and then I'll be really tan and then I'll just wear silver. Okay, great. Yeah. So if the Patriots won, And low cut jeans. Great. Show up my tan. If the Rams won, Scott's going to make all of our content boom only. No more microphones, no more lovs, only booms. Yeah. I love that. And then if Seahawks win, Selena, I don't know. What are you going to do? She's going to shave her head? Yep. No, she's not. She has beautiful hair. She's not going to shave her head. I actually, we can't have that happen. Yeah, we cannot have that happen. We can't have that happen. Guys, the Broncos have to win. But no matter what, Bad Bunny crushed it. Crushed. Absolutely crushed. Yeah. Killed it. Do we want to get into some of these topics? We have a lot of topics to talk about. Okay, so we asked everyone who works at Smosh. And some are anonymous. Some said their names. So we know where some of the topics came from. But I have all the topic pitches right here on this iPad. Yay. All right. Let's get into it. First one, K-pop. it just says K-pop I wonder who guess who you think it was Ollie it was Ollie okay they wrote BTS coming back from the military and having a music comeback and what their general opinions are on K-pop music as a whole what our general opinions are on K-pop as a whole what we think about K-pop BTS has been gone for five years because they had to go to the military they had to do military service that's wild they were literally BTS army that's so wild and now the BTS army gets to come back it was kind of It was kind of, it had to be insane to be like the number one, like, musicians in the world. And they'd be like, we have to leave and go do something else. Crazy thought. Is that why they released K-pop Demon Hunter so people could feel a little bit satisfied in the moment? Oh, well, K-pop is still gigantic. Yeah, huge. But, I mean, that movie did rock. Yeah. And I will admit, when I was scrolling through Netflix one day and I came across K-pop Demon Hunters, I was like, oh, this for kids, whatever. That's what I thought too. Oh my God. And then a couple friends of mine, my friend Shelby Young was like, have you watched K-pop Demon Hunters? And I was like, no. And she's like, I've watched it five times. And I was like- Five? I was like, okay. At that point, she's probably watched it 20 times by now. And then I was talking about it here at work and Ian was like, oh, I've watched it twice. People were like, everyone's obsessed with it. It does make sense. That makes sense to me. And I finally watched it and I was like, damn, this slaps. It's fun. I can't wait. I've not seen it yet. K-pop rocks. Yes, it does. I've been listening to K-pop for a long time. I think I started listening to it occasionally like— At the gym? I want to say like eight years ago. Whoa. Just off and on. I'm more of like a singles person. I don't listen to like an album. But I kind of in particular love the first K-pop song that really I was like, damn, this hits, is that song by Twice, TT. that the music video the music video is psychotic like they're just it just hits different there's a type of energy what it reminds me of what k-pop reminds me of is pop music in America back in like 2000 yes yes like NSYNC when it was like choreographed dances it was flashy it was shiny NSYNC Backstreet Boys Spice Girls yeah it was like that vibe and we kind of have lost that a little I think it's coming back now because of k-pop I think we thought it was like I think we were like oh we've moved on from that because it's not cool, but it was so cool. It was so cool. I got served a video, and I forgot about this, when NSYNC did the national anthem for the World Series back in 2000. And they're all sitting there. And now to sing the national anthem, it's NSYNC, and there's booze in the crowd because it's a sports crowd. And they're like, NSYNC, this boy band. And they start singing. They slayed it. And everybody silences. Of course. And then by the end, everyone's like, yeah! Because they were that good. They were my boy band. I was up No strings attached I had that CD I had that album too I was listening to that shit Do you remember that music video With the model Like running around Like whoa Music videos were crazy Back then Music videos were They were They were your resume Yeah They were like They were everything Yeah It's the slow Like the slow fade in And then all that And you just hear Hey hey It's actually my One of my favorite Karaoke songs to do Like hey hey Bye bye bye I miss how campy like people would sing back then or like JC would come in and he's like like he sings so but Justin's like what are your thoughts on Chris Kirkpatrick Chris Kirkpatrick you almost forgot you mean Google goggles you mean Google you mean Google goggles so he's there he just got off the ski trip he got off the ski lift And he came in the back and I was like, yeah. Do you think the goggles were his choice? I definitely think. Do you think he was like, I got to figure out some way. Wardrobe was like, we have nothing for you. Put on the goggles now. You're a goggles man. You're a guy who's going fast. Or swimming. But Joey. Joey Fatone? Joey's doing well. Yeah, a lot of them are doing well. I don't know how. Actually, you know what? I say a lot of them are doing well. I have not checked up. Lance Bass is doing well. I've not checked up on a lot of them in a long time. JT had some things, but he's, I will forever love JT. I'm sorry. I love him. Like that era of JT. No, but I still love Justin Timberlake. That album Mirrors, I think it was called, is so good. He's just an excellent, amazing performer. But he was awful to Britney, though. He was awful to Britney. And for that. So tough. That's, I would say Britney Spears, like that's the biggest like, the biggest L of millennials when it comes to pop culture. Like we completely let her down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she rocked. I was such a Britney fan too. I was, of course. Yeah. When her and JT showed up in all denim. That was a hit. But anyways, K-pop. But anyways, all right. So back to K-pop. You guys know NSYNC members. Can you name any BTS members? I cannot. I can name it. Jungkook is one of them, right? Is that, is that BTS? Yeah. Yeah. So Ali says, yes, that's BTS. Jungkook is the only BTS member I know because he had a single that was a big, big hit. But I don't know all of them. You want to know how I knew? I don't listen to a lot of BTS. I'll be honest. The K-pop that I love are the girl groups. I think the music just hits different. I think like Twice, New Jeans. Katzai? Katzai is, is Katzai K-pop? They're eh, K-pop It's like modeled after K-pop Okay, okay Do you want to know how I first heard about BTS? What's up? In a Smosh video When we were doing a sketch Remember? BTS ARMY Like the sketch that we did And I was playing like this Yeah General We did a sketch forever And I was like, what is BTS? I didn't know anything about it I didn't know anything And people were like, I stan BTS And I was like, I don't know what you're saying I don't know What is it? I have located the most powerful army in the world. Not only have they disrupted political rallies, they have also thwarted bigoted online campaigns, but they're also capable of mobilizing millions in a matter of minutes. Who is it? The BTS army. Uh... These are just a bunch of teenage girls. And Derek. And me. Technically, I'm 36. Anyways. Oh, and Blackpink. Blackpink. That's the shit I love. Like the sound is just a little different. Yeah. I feel like. And I rock with it. You rock with it? It's super good, man. Do Ashanti rock with it? Yeah, dude. I do. Is that Ashanti? Or is that Aaliyah? Oh my gosh. I'm now transported into this other universe. We're back in time. Okay. Okay, moving on. Starting a business can be overwhelming. 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Great He said not really Actually This meant no Our next topic is pirates And how they are incredibly gay Parenthesis the TV show Black Sails You better make sure Black Sails Oh my god So you love Black Sails Okay I will say I watched a lot of Black Sails And then I couldn't finish it Because it just got so like sad Really? Yeah it did but it is. Gay? Gay. Well, yeah. I mean, you got a bunch of sweaty, half-naked men on a boat out in the middle of nowhere. What do you think's gonna happen? I don't know. Tell me. Some gay stuff. Yeah, totally. Agreed. I mean, realistically, pirates. It's such a crazy... Well, you know what's wild about the era of pirates is it's such a short little period of time. But... And it's because there was a big war. I think it was between was it England and France? But there was a big naval war and then after that war you had a bunch of sailors who were out of a job and so it's like what are we gonna do? So like the era of pirates wouldn't work because it's not easy to learn how to run a ship. But there's still pirates to this day. Oh yes, but it's not like No stories scare me. That era of pirates was crazy. I mean there's always gonna be pirates and there always was. There's pirates back in ancient times. What's the main pirates name again blackbeard the other guy oh i don't know black sales that well there's blackbeard there's what is it i mean davy jones is the myth jack sparrow well that's johnny depp that's johnny depp jack sparrow um wow pirates i i do love pirates i feel like i feel like we also as a kid Pirates were a huge deal Oh yeah Huge deal Well it's because Pirates of the Caribbean Came out When we were kids No it didn't It's not like 2003 2001 Honey I was freaking Not a kid Was I? Okay Was I a kid? I was still My last years of being a kid Oh yeah maybe I guess I guess you're right You're right I love those movies I love Pirates of the Caribbean Oh I love Pirates Cause I Cause every summer When I was a kid I would go to Key West And so we would be out on a boat out in the ocean in Key West. And I'm like, this is prime pirate time. And I was like, it would be so sick to be a pirate. Obviously, it wouldn't be. It would be awful to be a pirate. It would be awful. But in the Goonies, I remember watching the Goonies and I was like, oh my God, these pirates are dead here, down here and they're stuck. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, in Oregon or wherever the hell that is. It feels like a, it is in Oregon. No, they weren't there. No, they weren't there. Pirates were not in Oregon. But pirate to me was always like this mysterious, like living out on the sea. Like I always really, really excited. It's really crazy. Like ships, like being on a ship, on a wooden ship back in that time, you're going to die. Do you get seasick? No. Same. Not at all. I had a Courtney threw me a birthday party once. On this open sea? On a sailboat. And she surprised me with a sailboat and with a bunch of friends. And it was awesome. But boy, did I learn how many of my friends get seasick because it's a sailboat, which is moving everywhere. I was having a great time. This is shortly after I'd broken my ankle, so I couldn't move around that much. So I kind of like was planted at one part of the boat. But I mean, lots of people were throwing up over the sailboat. I felt bad, but I had a great time. I mean, you had a great time. You're like, yay. People are like, oh. I was singing sea shanties. but uh yeah there's an incredible book i read last year it's not pirates but um it's called the wager and it's a true story about how um back in the 1700s they uh england was sending uh basically like uh hired pirates um they weren't pirates but they they were sent to go in and basically rob spanish galleons because they were against spain and they were like well we got a bunch of Spanish galleons on the Pacific side of South America. We want to sneak this, these boats over there to go steal gold from them. I think it's something along those lines. And, but one of their boats shipwrecks at the bottom of South America and they, they get stranded on an island down there and nobody in the world knows about them because it was a secret And so they were stuck for months on this stranded Island and there a mutiny and eventually multiple different parties try to escape and the uh survivors from it are found. One is found on the, uh, Western side of South America. A couple others were found on the Eastern side. Months later, they had been out at sea. It's a crazy story. And it's all in like the 1700s. Just nuts. I'm, I'm low key obsessed with shipwrecks. It's, it's a, you should read it. It's incredible. I really should. Cause it's devastating. Yeah. The funniest part, and this isn't spoiling, cause like it's, it's not like, oh, here's some big crazy twists. But there's a part where they're, they're down there and all of a sudden these natives show up, like people who are indigenous to the area. And they talk about how these people were wearing like no clothing. They would, they would cover themselves in seal fat and that's in like oils. And that's how they stayed warm. So they're, they're like, these people showed up. They didn't have shirts or anything, and it's freezing out. And immediately they caught a ton of food and had a ton of stuff ready when they were trying to help these shipwrecked guys. It took like one day for some of these dudes to be like, we should kill these fucking people and steal from them. And so the indigenous people quickly were like, we need to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, because they're smart and they're helping them. Left them alone, and then they were screwed. It's like, you dumbasses. Yeah, come on. These people are covered in oil trying to offer you food. Take it. Yeah. If someone shows up covered in oil helping me, I'm trusting them. Yeah, what is wrong with people? No, but it's an amazing story. I love that. A wager. Really cool. Okay. Really cool. And it follows all these real written accounts from back then. Wow. Because they kept like out at sea, they'd keep logs. Yeah, of course. That was the only record of anything. It was why it was so important to keep logs back then because otherwise just like what happened, we don't know. So cool. Especially if there was a shipwreck or if people died. Yeah. All right, moving on from Sword of Pirates. Sword of Pirates. The next topic is the Montauk project. This was written multiple times. Like in Montauk, New York? So, yeah, there is a conspiracy theory. The Montauk project, I looked it up last night. I think it was in Montauk, New York. It was back in like the 40s. It's this conspiracy that the government was holding experiments on telepathy and mind control and mind reading and all this stuff. It's the basis of Stranger Things. That's what Stranger Things was inspired from Really? Because the government apparently Was this also I might be wrong Was the Montauk Project also The Men Who Stare at Goats? Is that a different The movie? Is that a different telepathy experiment That the government had? There's been stories about the government having Like I'm sure the government's tried That makes sense to me Have you ever been to Montauk? No I've not been I've only been to Manhattan And like a little bit of Brooklyn I've not been. Oh, you haven't been up. I'm not like a big East Coast. I don't know East Coast that well. Shane. Been in New Jersey a couple times. Shane. We got to get you to like. I know. It's crazy too. The Berkshires? I mean. It's crazy because my first memories are of Virginia and a couple of DC. Well, that's cool. But that's as most East Coast as I have memories of. Wow. Yeah, I know. I'm not an East Coast guy. I will say I haven't been to Montauk, but I've always wanted to go. Um, cause you can read minds. Cause I can read minds and I've seen the show, the affair, obviously. Yeah. Who's ever seen the show, the affair. It's all Montauk. Nice. Yeah. Pretty cool. Um, but this makes sense to me. Do they think, I know you only looked up quickly. Do they think this like stopped at a certain time because people shut it down or that it's still going? Maybe. I mean, maybe it's like, Oh, we haven't heard more about it because they did discover it's real. Is this anonymous? Uh, the Montauk, It's Alyssa, one of our editors. Oh, my God. We're not doing Alyssa justice right now because we don't have theories. I just don't know enough. I don't know enough. If you guys know about the Montauk theory, let us know. Because, I mean, if it's based off Stranger Things. Well, Stranger Things was based off the Montauk project. Can I ask this question? But maybe I shouldn't because it's kind of a spoiler of the last episode of Stranger Things. All right. All right. Skip 30 seconds ahead. Spoiler alert. Do we think Eleven died at the end of Stranger Things? Or do we think she is alive and she like went to like a place with two waterfalls? I think it's your choice. I think it's whatever you choose to believe. I think Mike thinks that she's dead and he's making up this beautiful story. And that's my decision. Anyways, Montauk. Okay. I, yeah, I mean, look, this stuff is fun and interesting. I mean, I'm sure they run experiments. They're like, yeah, we're not finding anything. Here's my deal with conspiracy theories. I sometimes struggle because I get really into them, and then sometimes the further I go, I go, mm. I think my unfortunate, really abysmal take with conspiracy theories when it comes to government stuff is I'm like, government doesn't need mind control and telepathy. Propaganda's worked pretty damn well for them. Whoa! Whoa. Knowledge jar. They're just doing shit. Truly. And we're just like seeing it. They're not even hiding it. The government's dumb as fuck. I guarantee. But they get away with this shit. They do. I guarantee they've had people and like doing experiments on them. Oh, they've done. They probably, oh, they have. They've done some. They have. In studying psychology, there's some atrocious experiments that have happened on people. Cool. Moving on to the next fun topic. Next one. What conspiracy theories do we believe in? I, oh my God. The government said they were going to release papers about JFK and Marilyn Monroe. And I'm waiting. I am waiting. Apparently they need to release a lot of papers right now. Yeah, they do. And they're not doing that shit. They need to release a lot of files. They do. Do you know what I'm, okay. There's a theory that I heard about JFK recently that I don't know is true. because I am watching a conspiracy show on Netflix right now. Okay. Anyways, there is a theory that JFK was actually shot by his driver. Have you heard this theory? I have never heard that. Yeah, same, except when I watched this show on Netflix called The Octopus Murders. But he's— Right, right, right. Well, they're saying that the video that we've all seen is fake. because how they're saying, and here's the thing. This is when I heard this, I was like, I don't know if this is true. I don't know if this is true. Because tons of people were like, what? People were there. But they're saying the video that you see of JFK going down, the tree in the background is floating. So it looks like it's floating and there's nothing there. So that's where like, this is a botched video. See, that's what I do. I go, whoa. And then I go, is it true? I feel like, and this is ignorance. This is not me claiming anything. I have not personally heard many firsthand accounts of people who were there, like, in that video, talking about what it was like to be there. I mean, what a horrible event to witness. Horrible, horrible event. But those are, like, where my theories are. You love the, like, JFK. Marilyn Monroe, JFK, what was going on there. unfortunately when you dig into a lot of true crime the most plausible answer usually is the answer but we don't want to accept that Occam's razor, yeah I know, it's like we want something to be really interesting and stuff but oftentimes the answer is not I think like I don't know what conspiracy theories I believe in I'm not quick to believe in people have theories that Elvis is still alive like there's guys, there's theory People, yeah. I love hearing when they get really insane. Like, and with the internet, it's gotten really bad, right? Like, because Flat Earth, it's like, how did we bring this back? Yeah. I started hearing ones where people were saying that gravity isn't real. And I was like, damn, we're getting to really fun places. Have they seen the movie Gravity? No, there's people on TikTok who say that actually sunscreen is bad for you and that we need to get way more sun. And I was like, this isn't even serving any like. Nope. I believe the conspiracies of like, oh, to big tobacco, like hushed all the research that that smoking is bad for you. That's been proven true. Right. Like those things are real because it makes sense. Like there's there's like a simplicity of like, yeah, there was money to be made. Like Dick Cheney made money on the Iraq war. Like that's like not a conspiracy. It's like, OK, you can put those. But when it starts getting to places where it's like flat earth, I'm like, who makes money on this? And like, that's my shitty reason for being like, I don't believe in it. Cause who, or like bloggers, podcasters, people who have like a following, who have a hot take. Now attention makes money. So you can just say shit and people just say shit. People can believe what they need to believe. But once it starts to get like really dangerous and harmful, that's where I get worried. For some reason, it's so interesting to, especially when it comes to online conspiracies, why is it that all conspiracy theories lead to racism? Like every time it's like, oh, this person's a flat earther. I'm like, and they probably believe other things too. And it always is true. It's not like, oh, I'm just a flat earther. It's like, oh, and you also somehow it leads to white supremacy. Uh-huh. Yep. Why is that always the case? I want a psychologist on to talk about that. Or a sociologist to be like, here's why it's always racist. Actually, yeah. We'll probably have some comments that can shine some light on it, too. Yeah, yeah. I hope so. Next topic, heated rivalry. Oh, my God. Have you seen it? Have you binged it? This was pitched by Sarah. I have not watched it yet. I plan on watching it. Get in your car. I know. Go home. Okay, look, here's the thing. Our viewers, our DMs, every one of us on Smosh, it's been all asking us if we've watched Heated Rivalry. Here's the deal. Okay. First of all, Heated Rivalry is a book. It's a New York Times bestseller. Pretty positive. So a lot of people are like, have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Which always makes me go, I don't now want to watch it. I watched it. The first episode, yeah, is like, whoa, okay. But the story is so good. The story is so good. it's kind of like, like, when do we hear about hockey players, like gay hockey players who are not allowed to come out? And then I just think the story's lovely. The story's wonderful. The acting is incredible. To be honest, I started watching it because I was watching it. TikToks of the two actors and their chemistry is fire. Like their friendship chemistry. They're just really supportive of each other. And, um, yes. Okay. The first two episodes is soft core porn. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, man. Gay pirates are out. Gay hockey players are in. Yes. Do you know how many people are going to be like, do you want to go to a hockey game? Hockey's going to see a surge. Yeah. But I will say Heat of Rivalry is very, very good. Everyone's talking about it. It's very good. I got to watch it. I am going to watch it. I've been meaning to. There's just a lot of shows. Yeah. The first episode, you're going to be like, we're in. And I'm in. And they're in. And they're in each other. Everyone is in. Each other. Yeah. Everybody's in. Yeah. And that's how hockey goes. Hmm. Yeah. Watch them puck each other. Nice. No. Dumb. Now there's all these TikToks of hockey players stretching, which is the best stretch ever, but it's them stretching on the ice with their hips. And they're like, and someone put like the song Pony to it. And I was like, and here we go. Nice. And it has begun. Wow. Yep. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. Build fast with templates and AI descriptions and photos, inventory and shipping. Sign up for your one euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.nl. That's Shopify.nl. It's time to see what you can accomplish with Shopify by your side. This episode of Smosh Mouth is sponsored by Smalls Shane, don't you love being a cat parent? 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Personally, love when men have gay panic, but also love everything else that comes with the trope. It makes me think of the Amanda Bynes movie. Yeah, she's the man. That's a very specific trope. Very specific trope. And I think they used to do it a lot more. They don't really do it that often now. No. Which I kind of get. Yeah. I kind of get. But do you have a favorite movie? Do you have a trope that it's like every time that happens, you love it? I personally love, and I'm just going to, this is not what it's called, but I'm just going to say like the enough trope, the J-Lo enough trope where it's like the woman has been beaten down and she's like enough. I'm going to rig up this house and I'm going to catch your ass and I'm going to learn martial arts. I'm going to have a bunch of cut scenes where I'm training with a teacher. I'm gonna have a burner phone And I'm going to lure you And you are gonna try to abuse me one more time And then I'm gonna take you down Okay I just created I coined this term Enough Whatever I don't know what it's called But it's like Enough Like she's had enough It's like revenge Like female Yeah Double jeopardy Yeah Double jeopardy That's a popular trope One of my favorite Like back in the day movies So it's kind of vengeance It's You like a little bit of revenge It's specific though It's like abusive relationship vengeance Yeah Okay That's a very specific trope. Yes. There is a new subreddit that I've been getting served a lot, which is just movie tropes. And it goes into very specific ones that I love. And it had one recently. And what they do is they give a couple examples in the post. And then people in the comments, all they comment is other examples of the trope. Oh, I want to hear. And there was a great one recently where it was like a main character has a weakness that gives them an advantage against the opposition. And the example they used is the episode of Futurama where they go up against these super brain alien monsters. And Philip J. Fry, the main character, he's the only person who can go into their planet and like is a threat to them because he's so stupid that his brain is unaffected by them because they can mind control other people. I love that. But his brain is so stupid that there's nothing for them to control. It's fucking awesome. Wait, okay, so this is kind of a protagonist trope in like every romantic book is these, they call them half breeds. So they're half human, half magical. Okay. So in the fantasy world, pure breed is like the best, right? We can relate it to a lot of things. Yes. These half breeds are always looked down upon, right? Because they don't have all 100% magic or whatever. Right. But they always have something that the others don't, right? It's always their underdog story. They actually are always meant for something greater because they have to dig deep. And it's basically the theme is like it's always been in you vibes. That's what I feel like. That's what I do like those tropes. I love a lot of like these are kind of like very anime tropes. But I always love an underdog story. Me too. It's the thing. It's anime and it's sports movies. It's like you don't have enough kid. You're not able to make it. And then they do it. I love also when like in like superhero or fantasy context when the person does not have powers when everybody else does. But they just find a way to overcome and do it. This person doesn't have powers. The main character, the protagonist does not have powers but just works so hard and goes so hard. That's kind of like the half-breed theory. Yeah. Slightly. Very satisfying There's an anime called My Hero Academia Where it's a world where The majority of the world has powers Of some varying degrees And this main character wants to be a hero So bad and at a certain age You find out if you're going to get powers or not And he finds out he doesn't And then more stuff happens But he's just so determined to like Become a hero It's very much like that's So many animes It's just I want to do this thing you can't but I'm gonna work so hard that it's gonna happen and I love that shit yeah it's like that that theme that lesson that it's like it's in you yes you don't have to it's the outside world is not going to give you your power it's in you or that and also that you're gonna find your own version of your power yes there's another show that was like that too and I forget what it was called it was a story where it's like this the main character is like a prince and And but he's like literally the weakest person in the world. He finds out it's like you are the weakest person on planet Earth. But he finds his own way of being like of overcoming obstacles in his own. Is this not also Lord of the Rings? Yeah. In its own way. There's a lot of things. But like. Frodo is a perfect example because Frodo is a hobbit But his willpower is stronger than her But ultimately the real power is Samwise Gamgee Sam Sam Sam. That love. Sam. Love and loyalty conquers all. Mr. Frodo. Mr. Frodo. Mr. Frodo. Sam. No, I can't carry it, but I can carry you. Sam. That movie. I watched all three of those movies on a flight on the way back from Japan. I was like, all right, it's time. I watched them every Christmas. They're perfect Christmas. Every single Christmas. Oh, I do have to say, the other tropes that I love, really quick, I love any version of enemies to lovers or rivals to friends. I was just going to say that. That's another very anime one. That's another romantic one. Vegeta and Goku, come on. Yeah. Yeah. Enemies to lovers. Ryzen and Feyre, come on. Enemies to lovers is fucking awesome. Enemies to lovers is my absolute favorite, but there is a way to do it right. I think some people rush the storyline. The best enemies to lovers is like that perfect mix of like, we don't like each other. We're getting a relationship. We're forced to work together somehow. We're forced to be together, forced proximity. There's something going on, but it has to have enough time to really let it settle. You need to really believe it. and they have to hate them but they can't be like super crazy mean yeah because that it's like it's tricky it has to be justifiable and that's hard to do right you have to kind of like support both of them yes they need to both have their legitimate reasons enemies to lovers is my absolute favorite yeah I mean to me with most stories because it kind of makes me think of just enemies and rivals I think almost all stories how good they are depends upon the antagonist A bad antagonist makes the story mean nothing Yes Right? And you think about so many movies and TV shows that are incredible And it's because the antagonist was perfect Right? Like this is why people talk about Give an example Thanos in Marvel, right? Thanos So many Marvel movies are kind of nothing And they kind of have been forgotten But Avengers is so awesome Because Thanos had such a like You believed him Yeah In his commitment to this thing He's like the dad that's like Let me talk to you real quick He wasn't evil for being evil Like he truly believed his own shit, which is the best villain. And he was such a like kind of human villain for being such a crazy, fantastical being. It makes him so engaging and entertaining. I'm trying to think of other really good villains on a more subtle scale. Maleficent. Yeah. I was also going to say a weird one is like devil wears Prada. Oh, is Meryl Streep in that like is such a perfect villain. Cause it's like, Holy shit. Like I have to go against you, but I, but I also love you. Oh, and Darth Vader. You have to kind of love the villain. You have to like really enjoy seeing them on screen, but also. So much of Star Wars. Yeah. Kylo Ren. Like towards the end of, what was that movie that he's in? Like that last movie that he was in? Oh. Is that The Last Jedi? No. Rise of Skywalker. No, something else. Rey. Rey Star Wars. Yeah, like Glup Shido in Star Wars. Glup? Okay. Glup Shido. Okay, moving on. I could go on forever about this. I know, I could go on. But moving on. Because we have to. We have a Reddit episode we're going to do soon, and I will bring up the character trove thing. Okay. The next topic is another TV show. The ABC primetime television show Lost, which I was obsessed with. I was obsessed with Lost. Would they push the button in the hatch? Man of science or man of faith? would you do well in a plane crash on a deserted island situation? Here's the deal. I did not watch Lost, but I read an article about all of it. But I heard about it from my cousin once. Nope. I read like a whole deep dive article about the ending. And I was like. See, I watched Lost when it was airing. And I caught up to it. When it first aired, it was such a cultural phenomenon. Yeah. Because that pilot is, I would argue that is maybe the best pilot in television history. Really? That first episode is amazing. It sets up a million characters, which is such a hard feat. It ends like, I mean, okay, I'm going to spoil the first episode. I think it's okay. Right? Like, you know, like, you're like, okay, all you know is like they're crashing on this island and this is crazy. And then you're kind of just like all these characters are kind of like finding their way to each other and figuring out what's going on. Because they don't know each other. But the episode kind of has this big climactic moment where Locke, the guy who you find out was in a wheelchair on the plane, he's standing up and walking on the beach. And it's like that's all you needed to just set up like this island is weird. And that's kind of the premise of the whole show. Can I tell you what the theory of that I read is? Can I tell you? Yeah. Well, I don't know if this is the answer. Okay. I don't know what the answer is. They never, a lot just kind of never got answered. Okay, this person's theory or the article that I read's theory was that they died that first episode. Well, it's purgatory. And the rest is all, which. That was like the theory while we were watching it and it kind of. What's the main theory? That's the main theory was that it was purgatory. That they're kind of in a weird. What do you think? I think the writers got in over their heads. I think they didn't know. I think they truly didn't know. You think they ended it and didn't know? Well, this was network television. I think originally they wanted it to be one season, then they wanted it to be three seasons, but they kept getting pushed for more seasons. Six seasons. And there's a lot of seasons where it's like, this season wasn't necessary. Seasons one through three are some of the most engaging television I've ever watched. And then four through six is kind of like, they're figuring it out. Is this anonymous? This was Caroline. Oh my God. Who was two years old when Lost came. Our next one. This one's great. I needed to get to this one. This person writes in, my special interest is keeping my career intact. My career and reputation is taking a major hit from my Mr. Chips branding, and now I need a PR team to fix it. So Jonathan, when Damien co-hosted with me, it was a rough time for Jonathan. I'm glad that I wasn't here, actually, so I don't have to take any blame. Well, Jonathan needed you here. Because he was on his own with Damien. And stuck up with him. So tell me. There was an episode where Damien and I were hosting and Jonathan was trying desperately to open up a package of something. And Damien was like, I'm sorry. Is there an old lady opening a Werther's original somewhere in the studio? And I look over and I see Jonathan across the room just kind of like. And then later on, Damien. Damien, I think this was, oh, this was when Angela was here. Jonathan's phone went off and then Damien goes, oh, if it isn't Mr. Chips. You know what? Jonathan, don't feel bad. Those were the two times that Jonathan had. Damien does this. Yeah, it's a Damien thing. Damien could be talking and then all of a sudden he goes, did you guys hear that pin drop? Like he, he hears it all. Nothing escapes Damien. Listen, Jonathan is an icon. Okay. Mr. Chips. That name is dead and gone, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, Jonathan's loving this. It's Jonathan. Okay, it's... Okay, can we get you on set? Jonathan. Am I right? Jonathan. Jonathan. Okay. Snatched. Snatched. Mr. Chips is dead. Mr. Chips is gone. Also, Werther's are delicious. And old people do love them So we got a bunch of packs of Werther's Originals To pull a prank on Damien And ever since, Selena has a couple packages on her desk And I'll sneak one of them every now and then And they are amazing Do you know what they look like? What? Troll bellies What the fuck are you talking about? You guys I just can't get over it There's a Nick Kroll joke from Oh Hello on Broadway Where they say Werther's Originals are the amber alert of caramels And I Wow It's all I think about It's one of the funniest jokes of all time No, they're troll bellies Did you ever have those Norwegian trolls growing up? I know what you're talking about The ones with the crazy hair and the little The troll movies The cute little belly This is a pre-trolls movie Okay That's what they look like, a troll's belly Moving on We're going to skip down a couple Because someone brought up Heated Rivalry again Caitlin brought up another TV show Star Trek Deep Space Nine she says my favorite TV show and I believe it created the blueprint for a lot of prime type prestige dramas that followed it would be hard to discuss it without watching all 176 episodes but I would love if they could watch the pilot if they are willing to do that or just I don't know look at pictures of the characters and try to figure out who they are and what their deal is I just wish more people would talk about this show at all well I think your quark show me a picture if quark looks like Grinch you're dead buddy okay I'm gonna show you Cork. If Cork looks like Baby Grinch, I'm just like... They look like this. What is wrong with you? Okay. What is actually... Can we put up Cork here? It was the only name I knew from the show. You think I look like that? No. Thank you. Great eyebrows. So I was Googling. I looked at that. I did some Googling last night. And a lot of lists put Deep Space Nine as the best Star Trek show of all time. Whoa. Yeah. Star Trek is just such a commitment, man. It's such a commitment. I don't know if you're like this, but I am someone that I'm like, if I'm going to get into a new show or an IP. I'm committing. People go, oh, you can start on season four. Or, oh, you can start with the sequel series. I'm like, I can't. Nope. I need to know everything. I am going to Google from the person who created it the order to watch it in, read it in, whatever. That's me. See, like, if I'm going to watch Star Trek, I'm like, I got to start with the 60s one. I have to. Especially Star Trek, it compounds on itself. With, what's his name? William Shatner. Yeah. And that guy. Leonard Nimoy. Yes. Wasn't he in Star Wars 2? No. Thank you. I'd have to start here. Whoa. That was Captain Kirk. Do that impression anywhere. Oh, I do. People would love it. I do that all the time. Oh, wow. Spock. We've encountered a strange planet. Whoa. Captain Kirk. Wait. When I was a kid, that was one of my first impressions where my parents and other people would be like, oh, he's so good at impressions. He should get into acting. I'm over here just quoting Family Guy. Do you know what mine was? Was Marilyn Monroe. Mr. President. You're eight years old. Amanda, come on over. And I'm like, happy birthday to you. I'm not even kidding. To you. That was mine. Oh. Pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And then you talk about the JFK assassination. She's eight years old. Who killed JFK, guys? Yeah, you'd be like, all right, enough of that impression. Who do we think killed JFK? All right. The next one. We have all these TV shows. Okay. Someone said Smiling Friends. I know you watched that. I have not seen it. Funny or terrifying? Is it the adult SpongeBob? This is anonymous. I am obsessed with Smiling Friends. But here's the thing. I was obsessed with the animator when he was just making stuff on YouTube like 14 years ago. Whoa. Deep cut. Yeah, I was a big fan. His name was Psychic Pebbles. and he would make these wacky, wacky things. Like imagine how insane like when you watch old Smosh sketches from like 2010 and you're like, whoa, this is crazy. That era was nuts. Times that by a million. And that was animation on YouTube. And I was obsessed with animation at the time. Was that Solid Fingers? Solid Fingers was one of them. This is even crazier. This was like. Because Solid Fingers made me go. Because Salad Fingers, like truly that, like kids were watching that stuff. This was not appropriate for kids at all. In fact, a lot of old animation, when I pull it up, it's the same with any old YouTube video. You'll be like, oh my God, my favorite YouTube video from 2009. And you pull it up and you're going, oh my God, I forgot what they're saying in this. There's a lot of that. But Smiling Friends, the TV show, is so funny. I don't know if you'd find it funny. I think you would find anything funny. No, that's not true. But I think if something is really funny, even if it's not your style of comedy, you would appreciate it. I would, yes. It's very, like, quick-paced. It's a lot of, like, big, loud— Comedy has to surprise me. Smiling friends would surprise me. Okay. It would 100% surprise you. All right. Then I'm in. All right. Next, bidets. Why are they so controversial? How is everyone not immediately team bidet? If you got poop on your hand, you wouldn't just wipe it off with paper. You'd wash it. Shane just went to Japan and probably met a top tier bidet and maybe has a strong opinion on this Maybe we should get Tushy to sponsor this episode This is anonymous Here's the deal Why are you getting poop on your hand first? Yeah, we gotta talk about something else I have a Tushy I'm obsessed with it We have bidets I love them They are everything Yeah Stop getting poop on your hand I just have to say that again Tushy's the best It is affordable It is easy And it's perfect Yeah. Like you just clean it up. This is a free ad read for them. No, seriously. I was a toxic American and I scoffed at them for a long time. I was like bidets. How dare you? And then I got one and I used it. I was like, this is life changing. Isn't it life changing? This is life changing. The first time I ever saw a bidet was when I was a teenager and my mom and I went to Italy on like a special trip. We fought maybe 95% of the time, but it was really fun. I was an asshole. I'm not even kidding. I was like, I want to talk to my boyfriend. Nightmare. No, awful. I really, I do regret it. I tell her this. I'm like, I regret that. And she was like, thank you for saying that. Wow. But there was a bidet in where we were staying and I just flipped it on and I was like, wow. And it was just like, I had no, I had no idea. Yeah. It's, oh, and so I went to Japan and they are insane there. Oh. Seat warmers. Seat warmer. Not only bidets, but also like a dryer. Oh, I love. All this stuff. There's like one restaurant in LA that has like one of those toilets. It's insane. Yeah. You have like a whole mainframe on the wall. You're like pressing all these buttons. They're expensive as hell. You get a free BBL. How? Moving on. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, is that where yours came from? It's truly incredible. It's like, man, this is so much cheaper than having all this toilet paper all the time. You make this investment. You just hit the thing and it's like, eh, it drives you. I know. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. 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Remember, with Savala, dinner is taken care of Do you feel better? Back to the show Our next topic They wrote Johnny Appleseed This is anonymous, but we know that it's gotta be Luke His sweat Okay, especially because they wrote His Swedborgianism The fact that he would keep dry rusk in his pocket to hand to children The fact that his apples were not domesticated and couldn't be eaten But could be used to make liquor kept a pot on his goddamn head. Yeah, Johnny Appleseed, I guess, was a real guy. Yeah. So I walked, one time at lunch, I walked over and was hanging out with Luke and Marcus and Matt Duran and Alexina, and they were all laughing. And Luke was like, no, Johnny Appleseed is a real guy. And I was like, this is what you guys are talking about. And he was going on a rant about how Johnny Appleseed was a real person. Who just spread seeds and that's where the trees. Planted seeds, but they were, they were cider apples. They weren't apples. They were alcoholic. They were for making cider. So I think cider was a bigger deal back in the day. Yeah. Courtney's so bummed that cider is not a bigger thing. It's her favorite thing. And it's, it's like, it's kind of going away. I know it is, which is so sad because I love cider. I know. You know what? You should just do really dry orange wine. It kind of tastes like cider in a very small way. Yeah. But you know, that's kind of similar with beer. IPAs were created because they were coming, from India or something on ships, and they needed the beer to last, so they added more hops so that the beers would last longer. That's actually a true fact. That's why it's called an India Pale Ale. Because I never understood that. Yes, so they added more hops to make it last the voyage, and I can't remember where they were headed to, but that's why it's called India Pale Ale. I feel like IPAs are on the out. Am I wrong? I feel like they're kind of on the out. IPAs, sours are my fave. I feel like they're kind of on the out. Well, micro brews are on the out. You worked at a bar that- 72 taps. Wow. I had to take the Cicerone beer test. Wow. I was really into beer. I learned so much about beer, like the color, the taste. So cool. Where it comes from Like I was really into like sours and monk beers and like wheat beers because they would just leave the top off and then have they would have it would be called like a barnyard strain a barnyard strain and these like sour beers because they leave the top off and then let like the yeast naturally That's where you're getting that funky. Interesting. I like it because it's connected to wine in that way where you're just like the location, the weather, where you're planted, all of that matters. I love food and drinks have so much culture to them. It's so fun. He used to drink a lot of beer. Anyways, Johnny Appleseed, fuck you. Moving on. Water bottle wars. Everyone seems to have really strong feelings about why their brand of water bottle is the best. That's you. Insulated. Well, see, I'm trying to, I finally am done. I'm bringing my own water bottle to work. And I'm trying to do that. At home. Good. Save the planet. I actually don't care. Totally. I don't care. Mm-hmm. Wow. I'm kidding. I have a water bottle that I use all the time. I really, I'll drink whatever water. I don't give a crap. What? I don't give a crap. No. I don't really care. I think, I think because I have a son and I was breastfeeding, I had to like, I was really freaking on it. But also, I don't know, drinking good water matters. For sure. But I think a lot of it's good for you. It's just like people have these ideas that taste different. Right. Right. Especially like really fancy bottle brands. I'm like, your Voss water. I'm like, it's fine. It's fine. Like just get some filtered water, some spring water. Have you ever though been like to like a cabin or something where it's like the water's safe, but it's like, oh yeah, it's kind of sulfuric and you drink it and you're like, whoa. Yeah. We're picking up some stuff from the soil in this. Yeah. I will say my friend's place on the East coast was like, oh yeah, the water's really fresh. Or it comes from like this stream or whatever. And it is like yummy. Really? It is delicious. Wow. And maybe it's the placebo effect. Maybe it's your mind. Maybe it's the amoebas that are in it. Moving on. Moving on. Someone said the curse of the billy goat. This is the infamous curse that kept the Cubs from winning a World Series for 108 years. Yes, I've heard it. There's a few because there's also the curse of the Bambino. Of course. are so superstitious yes you want to know a funny one yes so I don't know much about baseball curses and stuff but I would just say maybe it's just bad ownership you think look there's a lot of when it comes to football there's a lot of teams just like this team just can't win I'm like yeah because the owners suck they're bad at investing in the right shit that's why some teams just keep winning like the Patriots it's just like they make some good calls they hire good coaches Like, I don't know. And then they also got Tom Brady and that's just lucky. Tom Brady's gone. Yeah. Bill Belichick is also gone. You guys have Mike Vrabel and Drake May who are really good. Whoa. I really, I really believe it's like, it's like when you're watching something, you're like, oh my God, this isn't good. It's like, well, what was the director like? What was the right? And that's, that's a very much a football thing and sports thing. But, uh, there is a football curse that is very funny that I know about. And it's called the Simpsons. it's the Simpsons curse in relation to the Broncos and the Cowboys. So there's a episode of the Simpsons back in the nineties where Homer Simpson, all he wanted was to be the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. That was his dream in this episode. And at the end of the episode, Marge is like, Oh, homie, we got you a gift. And it's like, uh, and they're like, he's like your own football team. And he runs out in the front yard. He's like, Oh, I got the Denver Broncos. And he goes out and he's like, Oh, I got the Dallas Cowboys. and he walks outside and it's the Denver Broncos. And he's like, oh, the Denver Broncos. And they like suck, like half the lawn's on fire. They're like hitting each other in the back of the head with the football. They like made a huge diss towards the Broncos. It's like, they suck. Since that episode of the Simpsons came out in the 90s, the Cowboys have not beaten the Broncos. They have a complete losing streak against the Broncos. What? For how many? It's been like 30 something years now. What? Or almost 30 years. Now, to be fair, the Cowboys and the Broncos only play each other every few years, but they've lost every time. This superstition is real. It's kind of funny. It's kind of like with baseball. It'll get broken at some point. When? Probably when Jerry Jones dies and the Cowboys can finally be good again. Oh, Jerry Jones. They are cursed until Jerry Jones is the reason they can't win. Oh, yeah. No, of course. I wonder if there's any Cowboys fans in the comments if they would agree with that I feel like they will comment Jerry Jones comment if you like Jerry Jones actually really quick there was one someone wrote Rubik's Cube solving slash cubing this was by Audrey and they said it's one of my New Year's resolutions to learn how to solve a Rubik's Cube and I learned pretty fast how to solve the first two layers but essentially cubing is just people solving Rubik's Cube super fast and remembering algorithms I learned recently that Alexina used to compete in that. We can cut this out if she doesn't want this. What? But I believe Alexina. Jonathan has no idea about that. Could we Slack Alexina and ask if she competed in Rubik's Cube solving competitions? That is incredible if that's true. I'm pretty sure. And I think she's not the first person to work at Smosh who does that. I think we had someone. Heidi. Heidi also used to compete. We've had multiple Rubik's Cube solvers here at Smosh. She said yes. I said WTF. And she said when I was in middle school, why? When I was in middle school, yes. I remember Alexina told us about this. So Audrey needs to talk to Alexina. About Rubik's Cube. The master. Yeah. All right, next. Someone wrote Walmart. So this is written by Gareth, who lives in South Africa. Yep. He said, I've had this weird obsession with Walmart. It sounded like a place you could buy baby items and motor oil in the same aisle. Now as an adult, I have been able to go to a few Walmarts across the U.S., and I have to say my impressions of it matched that of the Walmarts on the East Coast, but not of the West Coast. It's just an L.A. thing where the Walmart feels normal. Why is there such a difference? Asking as a foreigner. That being said, Walmart has opened two stores here in South Africa, but they're not as good as the ones in the U.S., in my opinion. Whoa! I haven't been a big Walmart person. Same. But I've been to Walmart plenty of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know the main difference between the East Coast and the West Coast because I would say if I've been to Walmart, it's more on the East Coast. Yeah. I would say the Walmarts that I've been to here on the West Coast, because Arizona and stuff, they were always similar-ish to other stores. But it is kind of its own thing, you know, a store where you can go and get everything. Everything. My family was, see, I grew up like, we were in a military family. So we would go to the base for everything. We'd go to the BX or the commissary. And you'd get shit for so cheap. The base has their own. The base has everything. It's its own city, effectively. So if you are not military, you can't go to the base. You can't go in there. But because my dad, my whole family had military IDs, because my dad was a lieutenant colonel. So we could go in and. It's crazy. You drive to the base, drive through the gates, and then you go and, like, you go get your groceries there. You go get everything there. And it was— Where is all that coming from? Everywhere. Everywhere? Yeah. No, they're stocked. Is it in one, like, warehouse or is it multiple stores in one area? They have multiple stores. They have multiple—I would go get my haircut there. I would go—there was restaurants. There was everything. Like, they've— Whoa! Because military bases have tons of people in them. What was it like growing up, leaving the base and having to shop and choose places all over that you had to go to? Yeah, when my dad was out of the military. My dad has access to go to them forever. Same with my mom. But at a certain point, we would sometimes not go, but it was kind of weird. I grew up not going to regular grocery stores as often. We'd go to the commissary. So that was just my norm. Wow. But that's why we didn't do Walmart as much because we would go to the BX. and that shit had everything. Yeah, and we didn't really have a Walmart near us. It wasn't down the street or something. Yeah. We had Shaw's and Stop and Shop. But Walmart's crazy. I mean, it's got everything. It really does. I'm sure as someone from another country, Walmart's got to be this crazy American thing. Yeah, I'd love to know what Walmart has in South Africa. What's the biggest difference there? I know, what's the setup of it? I'm sure there's a lot of differences. I'm very curious. Chance wrote one What do you think Chance wrote? Something about a butthole, I don't know I'm just kidding No, Chance wrote Something about Broadway? No, he wrote Bladed weapons Specifically what weapon Are you specializing in for one on one Duel Okay I want a bunch of knives I was gonna say I want like knives in each pocket I was going to say, since I'm completely untrained, I would go knives. Yeah. Because a sword, you need expertise. And they're heavy as hell. And they're heavy. You need to work on your arm strength. If I had time to train and become a master at any of them, I would choose that one sword that's also like a whip. Like in Kill Bill? What's it from? I think it's a weapon in India or something. A sword that's also a whip? It's kind of like this big curly metal. It's crazy. But you're likely to kill yourself by trying to wield it. See, I don't want that. But it's fucking awesome. I don't want that. Urumi? Urumi? I think it's called. It's sick. I should show you some videos. Yeah, sure. Definitely. I'll find you later. Tonight. All right. One last one. Okay. That we have, and I'm curious what your thoughts on this. Amanda Barnes, who runs our whole production. Amanda Barnes wants us to talk about I Love Lucy and how it revolutionized TV. First time it was filmed on film instead of live, which developed the process of syndication. Yeah. First mainstream representation of interracial couple. Desi invented the multi-camera system. Lucy and Desi ran the studio, Desilu Studios. Women in the writer's room, when they got their awards for the show, they campaigned for writer's awards. It's still funny. Longest live audience laughter ever recorded is on this show. Groundbreaking show. I've watched a couple episodes, and I remember watching it and being like, this is so good. Like it's so well executed, so well done. A fun fact about I Love Lucy is that when Damien and I were on So Random on Disney Channel, it was shot at Hollywood Center Studios. And at lunch, we would go to a different set to eat lunch and all the catering was there. And I found out like halfway through filming on that show that I was like, oh, this is the I Love Lucy set. That's where we go. And it's a very small studio. Yeah. It's kind of shocking that they fit it all into this small studio with a studio audience. What's wild to me is they're married in real life. Yeah. They're married in real life, and they're also running a business together, and they're also, like, starting the first sitcom. Yeah. I can't believe, too, because she was so— It's still so funny. I think she was 40 in that show. Yeah. Yeah, and she was just so incredible. I need to watch more of it, but I've seen the, like, really famous one with the, like, vitamins and stuff with the factory. It's like such good. It's their perfect, literally perfect mini sketches. Also perfect like physical comedy. Yeah. Incredible physical comedy. I think like physical comedy is so eternal and universal. Always. Like I love shows that don't. I mean the three stooges. If you can not speak and make people laugh, it's why I pitched our TNTL mimes back in the day. Yes. So I was like, I want us to try to see if we can do this. You should do that again. Oh, we should. It's so much fun. I mean, to me, it's you have such a talent if you can get across like the human interaction by not speaking. Because to be honest, the truth is, is like writing jokes are great. They're great. But like watching people in earnest interact with each other in a scenario is genuinely funny. It's so great. It's really funny. Selena has a Selena has a pit. And she wants us to talk about high school musical and how it was 20 years ago. Can I be honest? It was, I didn't really watch a lot of High School Musical. I really, every time our cast wants to sing the songs, I'm just like. Selena was wearing a Wildcats jersey this week. For the 20th anniversary. For the 20th anniversary. Selena's a big fan. It was so massive. I mean, I was a teenager when it came out. And I remember so many of those shows, because that was when I was first acting. So like all these shows were things where I was like, oh man, like, what do I need to be doing to become successful? and I was like, damn, everyone can sing and dance? I'm screwed. Yeah. It was such a big, big show. Courtney's shown me a lot of high school musical. Courtney likes to show you nostalgic things that she loved from the past and shows you. And Courtney was into high school musical. I think I was like a year, I don't even want to say I was a year too old. I think it was just like I didn't really watch it. Yeah, that's fair. I was watching anime. Zac Efron, you're so cool. I was watching Lost and Anime. You're so cool. I'm a little busy, guys. I was watching like Six Feet Under on HBO with my family. Jesus Christ. I think that should explain a lot about me. Did you finish that show? Yes. The last song is Sia. Apparently, people say that's the greatest finale of any show of all time. Have you seen it? No. I've never seen an episode. But it's the best finale of all time, right? It is. I will say, H re-watched it all. and re-watching the finale, you're just like, I can't even say anything more. All I know is Sia is the last, the whole like last episode is one of her songs. And it is so good. It's so dark. It's such a dark show. Speaking of nostalgia, there's a trend going on. 2016. 2016, you posting yourself from 2016. Where were you guys 10 years ago? 2016 I you know we just did our Smosh Hospital live show I remember in 2016 we did Smosh live and it was this big live show and it was such a different beast back then and that's so wild to think about we didn't do a live show for a long time after that but that was a that was I was here for less than a year at Smosh and then we did that show and it was in front of a huge audience whoa it was live streamed like on YouTube it was crazy whoa so I remember that from 2016 2016 was actually a, I was looking back because I heard this trend. I was looking back and I was like, oh, 2016 was a huge year for me. I met my husband that year. Wow. Doing karaoke. I went to the Azores for the first time ever with my entire family. And then I was in Groundlings, like not my first class, but like my third class. So I was like committed and I was posting videos all the time. comedy videos all the time on my YouTube. That was 2016. It was like a wild, wild time. 2016 was a weird year. And then Harambe died. Alexina's just doing her freaking... Alexina is solving a Rubik's Cube. Yeah. No? Okay, she doesn't want anyone to know. No, no, no, no. Alexina! Alexina, I can't do it. Mix it up, mix it up. Okay, I'm gonna mix it up. So I am mixing up the Rubik's Cube for our champion, Alexina. I'm scared. Don't be scared. No pressure. You don't have to solve it quickly. No, I do. You used to, what was your best time? 58 seconds. 58 seconds. Okay. All right. Alexina is currently solving the Rubik's Cube. Can we like talk while I do? We can talk. Do you have a topic you want to talk about, Amanda? I want to talk about dance moms. You want to talk about, you do want to talk, you wrote dance moms down here. Yeah. I have still never seen Dance Moms. Oh, I've seen some Dance Moms. But I am fascinated by the character of Abby Lee Miller. Tommy's alter ego. Tommy's hero slash villain. What's crazy is, like, that's, it's like, are they a villain? Are they a hero? We don't know because they were put in that role. But I don't know. When I see people like Abby Lee Miller, it's where I realize, like, oh, this industry I'm in has such horrible people. because I'm like, oh, she's just a normal person in so many ways for us. Being a teen actor, I met like 50 Abby Lee Millers a month. Of course. That just was the vibe. Adults were just like that. And speaking of Sia, the girl that was always in her music videos was also on Dance Moms. Wow. Thomas and Tiaras was also a spin-off show. That's a horrific show. That's a whole other thing. What about you Amanda? We got a few minutes Got a few seconds Do we have a few minutes? Well you can talk about I've got a show that I want you to It's solved It is solved I couldn't think of something because I knew she was so close Wow Thank you so much Alexina There's a show that I think you would love That I'm obsessed with Tell me. But it's a very niche show that not many people are talking about. Chair Company? No. Chair Company is amazing. Okay. There's a show, because we were talking about no dialogue and how amazing that is. There's a show that I'm obsessed with that has zero dialogue. And it's on its third season. Not a line is spoken throughout the whole show. It's an animated show. Is it called Primal? Yeah. I love Primal. Yes, okay, good. I've already seen, so I've only seen season one. I have not seen the other seasons. I love that show. That show is amazing. It's so good because there's, you don't need words in it. It's just art. You're watching it and it's just art. And for some reason it feels like nostalgic anime to me. I don't know why. Well, it's the guy who did Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. I don't know if you watch those shows. Okay, no. Samurai Jack was my shit. But I've heard of it. I'm sure a lot of The Chosen comes from me watching Samurai Jack as a kid. Anyways. Yeah. All right. Got my interest in there. All right. Guys, stay tuned because we're actually going to try to talk to cast. And we do have Courtney coming up soon who's going to do a special interest whole episode on their interests. That's right. Thank you all for watching. Let us know down below if you have a very specific show or interest or topic that you love. Or conspiracy theory. Yeah, or that, or the Montauk Project, or Johnny Appleseed. Thank you for watching. We'll see you later. Bye.