One of Their Own

The Fight

30 min
Dec 9, 20256 months ago
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Summary

This episode investigates the 2017 death of San Diego Police Officer Sierra Estrada, ruled a suicide, and examines whether her department adequately responded to her troubled relationship with fellow officer Eric Hansen. It explores how California's new Joanna's Law aims to prevent similar cases by requiring investigations of suspicious deaths involving domestic violence history.

Insights
  • Law enforcement agencies often lack protocols or fail to follow existing protocols when investigating deaths with domestic violence history, creating barriers for families seeking answers and records.
  • Statute of limitations and public records exemptions can prevent families from accessing critical case information, effectively closing legal and investigative avenues before full facts emerge.
  • Hidden homicides—deaths wrongly classified as suicides or accidents—may occur at rates of 1,200-2,000 annually in the U.S., but lack systematic detection due to inconsistent investigation standards.
  • Police department culture that stigmatizes mental health discussions contributes to officer suicide rates exceeding officer homicide rates, yet internal accountability for relationship-related crises remains limited.
  • Legislative solutions like Joanna's Law face resistance from law enforcement citing cost concerns and perceived attacks on investigative autonomy, despite support from experienced detectives and medical examiners.
Trends
Increased advocacy for mandatory investigation protocols in deaths involving domestic violence history across U.S. law enforcement agenciesGrowing legislative movement to establish family access rights to case records in closed investigations, challenging traditional confidentiality exemptionsRecognition of hidden homicides as a systemic public health issue requiring specialized training and inter-agency coordinationShift toward treating officer mental health and relationship crises as departmental accountability issues rather than individual failingsExpansion of independent case review programs (Justice Project model) to identify and challenge potentially misclassified deathsEmerging focus on red flag factors and risk assessment frameworks to standardize suspicious death investigations across jurisdictionsIncreased transparency demands from families regarding investigation methodologies and evidence handling in officer-involved cases
Topics
Police Officer Suicide PreventionDomestic Violence Investigation ProtocolsHidden Homicides and Misclassified DeathsJoanna's Law and Suspicious Death LegislationPublic Records Access and Statute of LimitationsLaw Enforcement Accountability and Internal AffairsOfficer Mental Health and Workplace CultureIntimate Partner Violence Risk AssessmentDeath Investigation Standards and Red Flag FactorsFamily Rights in Closed Criminal CasesPeace Officers Bill of Rights and Employment LawMedical Examiner Independence and ProtocolsDe-escalation Training for Law EnforcementDomestic Violence Victim AdvocacyCold Case Review and Investigative Reopening
Companies
San Diego Police Department (SDPD)
Central subject; investigated Sierra Estrada's death and handling of officer relationship; declined full record discl...
Alliance for Hope International
Organization leading Justice Project to independently review suspected hidden homicides; co-created Joanna's Law with...
KPBS
Public broadcaster producing this podcast episode and related investigative journalism on Sierra Estrada's case.
Sandy City Police Department (Utah)
Employer of Eric Hansen from 2022-2024 after he left SDPD; records show his employment there following Sierra's death.
People
Sierra Ann Estrada
San Diego Police Officer (Badge #7334) whose 2017 death was ruled suicide; central subject of investigation and famil...
Larry Estrada
Sierra's father, retired U.S. Navy Commander; authored four-page letter to Police Chief questioning investigation and...
Julie Estrada
Sierra's mother; continues fighting for full case records and justice; expresses family's ongoing trauma and advocacy...
Eric Hansen
San Diego Police Officer involved in relationship with Sierra; declined interview; left SDPD in 2022, worked in Utah ...
Casey Gwynn
Former San Diego City Attorney; co-creator of Joanna's Law; president of Alliance for Hope International; leads Justi...
Joanna Hunter-Lewis
Domestic violence victim whose 2011 death was ruled suicide; case inspired Joanna's Law after family advocacy with Ca...
Joe Hunter
Joanna Hunter-Lewis's brother; advocated for justice in her case; testified to California Senate supporting Joanna's ...
Captain Judd Campbell
SDPD Captain who reviewed Sierra's case in 2022; provided recorded statements defending investigation thoroughness.
Jeremy Gates
Sheriff's deputy; one of last people to speak with Sierra; believes death was suicide; advocates for officer suicide ...
David Nislet
Former San Diego Police Chief who received Larry Estrada's letter in 2020; declined to speak with podcast producer.
Katie Heisen
Podcast producer and host of 'One of Their Own'; conducted investigation and interviews for this episode.
Quotes
"Sierra cannot speak for herself anymore. She is dead. But why is she dead? The reason Sierra is dead is because she had a relationship with another San Diego Police Officer while she was still alive."
Larry EstradaOpening letter to Police Chief
"If you believe it was suicide or if you believe it was homicide, it doesn't matter. It never should have happened. She should be alive today."
Larry EstradaMid-episode reflection
"Everybody knows that if a wife or a girlfriend dies, the suspect, first suspect's always going to be the intimate partner. So why in the world would that not be suspicious if a woman dies and there's a prior history of domestic violence?"
Casey GwynnDiscussion of Joanna's Law rationale
"If there are another thousand murders in the United States of women happening, we shouldn't be talking about cost. We should be talking about solving them."
Casey GwynnAddressing cost concerns about reopening cases
"We're damaged goods for the rest of our lives."
Julie EstradaFamily impact statement
Full Transcript
KPBS Roundtable offers perspectives from those telling San Diego stories. Join us for weekly conversations with reporters and storytellers, adding depth and context to the headlines driving the news in the San Diego region. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. This podcast contains discussion of suicide and domestic abuse. We discuss opinions expressed by others. We at KPBS don't endorse those opinions. No one has been charged with a crime relating to Sierra Strata's death. And we don't intend to imply that anyone should be charged or engaged in wrongdoing. So this is my letter to the San Diego Police Chief. And it was sent August 27th of 2020. And the subject line is death of San Diego Police Officer No. 7334, Sierra Ann Estrada, to San Diego Police Chief Nislet. I'm sitting with Sierra's father, Larry, at his kitchen table. He's reading a letter he sent to then-Police Chief David Nislet. He sent copies to the San Diego Community Review Board and SDPD Internal Affairs. Do you remember my daughter, Sierra Ann Estrada, San Diego Police Officer 7334? Sierra cannot speak for herself anymore. She is dead. But why is she dead? The reason Sierra is dead is because she had a relationship with another San Diego Police Officer while she was still alive. Did San Diego Police conduct interventions with her San Diego Police boyfriend? If not, why not? We have pictures that were taken of her that night around 10 p.m. in which she was happy and looked radiant. According to San Diego Police, she was dead two hours later. How could one of your police officers be dead? How she died, parentheses, gunshot to the head, does not explain why she died. I'm Katie Heisen, and this is One of Their Own. The story of a San Diego police officer's death and the way her department handled it. San Diego County is known for being one of America's most expensive regions. Locals are feeling the squeeze and looking for solutions. KPBS's new series, Price of San Diego, delves into the rising cost of groceries, childcare, car insurance, and even our beloved California burrito. You won't want to miss this ongoing series live now at kpbs.org slash priceofsandiego. The letter Larry sent to San Diego Police is four pages long. It reflects the family's belief that if Sierra died by suicide on New Year's Eve 2017, it was because of her relationship with Eric Hansen. It outlines the family's concerns, that the department didn't appropriately respond to an abusive relationship involving their own officers, that they never gave the family the complete, unredacted case records, that they initially told the family there was no autopsy, That they didn't give the family enough specific evidence to substantiate the cause of death. That they never held officers accountable for their actions or inactions that night. Police officers are not supposed to escalate a situation. They are supposed to de-escalate a situation. Police officers are supposed to be held to a higher standard of conduct. Have you held Officer Hanson accountable? San Diego police had a domestic disturbance that occurred in public that night between two San Diego police officers, and one of them is dead because of it. Witness statements in Sierra's case file describe multiple officers witnessing a heated dispute between Sierra and Eric the night she died. How many other off-duty San Diego police officers could have intervened that night? The letter questions whether the real lessons from Sierra's death were ever learned or taught. We also learned that after Sierra died, that San Diego Police was telling other police officers during training sessions that Sierra killed herself because of the job. Were you aware of this? Does your department think my daughter killed herself because of the job? What should be used in training is how to avoid toxic relationships and how to de-escalate a situation that a police officer creates. Did San Diego Police ever communicate to the entire department the circumstances of her death? It also questions SDPD's decision to continue to employ Eric, given the volatility of his relationship with Sierra. Why is Officer Hansen still a San Diego Police Officer? In an email, SDPD spokesperson Ashley Nichols said, they're restricted by employment law and the Peace Officers Bill of Rights and how they can discipline or fire someone. Quote, Eric left STPD in 2022. Pay records show he worked for the police department in Sandy City, Utah from 2022 through 2024. I couldn't find any record of Eric after that. I do have his cell phone number, and he picked up the first time I called. But when I told him why I was calling, that Sierra's family attributes her death to his relationship with her, and I wanted to hear his side of the story, he hung up, and he hasn't answered any of my texts since. As painful as it may be, If we don't completely understand why this loss of life occurred, it will happen again. Signed, Hilario Larry Estrada, Commander, U.S. Navy, retired. Larry says he never got an answer to this letter. Former Chief Nislet declined to talk with me. For Larry, those four pages boil down to this. If you believe it was suicide or if you believe it was homicide, it doesn't matter. It never should have happened. she should be alive today. That belief motivated Sierra's family to eventually file the legal claim against the city of San Diego, holding the police department responsible for, quote, failing to protect Sierra Estrada from Officer Eric Hansen. But they filed it in July 2018, past the statute of limitations for legal claims against the city. We had no idea the statute of limitations with the city was six months. It's kind of criminal in itself. How can the city not have a lawsuit filed against it if it's six months and a day? So we couldn't really find any information out that we were yearning for at that point because the legal door kind of got closed in our face. Maybe if the claim had gone to court, they could have gotten Sierra's case documents sooner. They say they were told by detectives in the months following Sierra's death that they couldn get any of the documents They submitted a formal written request for investigation records in 2020 The city rejected that request with a note saying for what you are requesting you will need to submit subpoena. Larry says they only learned they had rights to portions of Sierra's case file and received those documents by filing a public records request through the online portal in 2022, four years after his daughter died. It was kind of like pulling teeth. Sears' mother, Julie, says they're still fighting for some kind of justice, for the full records. That was my baby, you know? She was my baby. I'm going to fight to the very end. January 1st, 2025, just one week before Julie first reached out to me, a new California law went into effect that might have changed everything for Sierra's case. I spoke with a co-creator of that law, Casey Gwynn. When I spoke with him on Zoom, he was in the middle of training the Justice Department in South Carolina on hidden homicides, deaths that are wrongly classified as suicides or accidents when they're actually homicides. So-called hidden homicides are often staged by the killer to look like something else and follow a history of domestic violence. Casey used to be San Diego's city attorney. He's been leading work against domestic violence for 40 years. I wish I could say that it was a really noble beginning, but at the very beginning of my career 40 years ago, I was sick the Friday of my first week of work as a prosecutor. And that was the day that everybody picked their area of interest. And I came back the following Monday. And the only area that had not been picked was child abuse and domestic violence. Now he's president of Alliance for Hope International, an organization that supports survivors of domestic violence. He says four years ago, We had a woman come in who was seeking counseling because her daughter died and it was ruled a suicide and she is struggling with it because she doesn't believe her daughter died by suicide. Her husband was abusive and we'd love your help. And so we then pulled our whole team together and started looking at Joanna's case. Joanna Hunter-Lewis died in Solano County, California in 2011. Her husband was a pastor. The case was quickly ruled a suicide within a matter of minutes, less than half an hour. And they made a decision to do no further investigation in the case. Joanna's brother, Joe Hunter, began to advocate for justice in her case. He worked with Casey to draft and pass Joanna's law. He testified to the California Senate about what happened to Joanna. When my sister was the victim of domestic violence, it changed my life and everything in it forever. This bill will bring justice to Joanna Hunter and so many other victims like her. Unlike Sierra, Joanna's relationship had a documented history of physical violence. Joanna filed restraining orders against her husband. Years after Joanna died, he went to prison after pleading no contest to hiring people to firebomb his ex-girlfriend's house. And the deeper we got into the case, the more convinced we became that Joanna Hunter Lewis was murdered. Joanna's family wanted an independent review of the case, but they hit some of the same information and record barriers as Sierra's family. And so we started advocating with the Solano County Sheriff's Department to have the case reopened. We started making Public Records Act requests. We started demanding more and more information. They did not provide it. They did everything they could to avoid giving us the records that we wanted. They had been stonewalling Joanna's family for more than a decade at that point. Given Joanna's history with her husband, her family didn't feel confident in the suicide ruling. They wanted a thorough outside investigation of the case. Without more information and records, that was impossible. And law enforcement was denying them what they needed. Joanna's next of kin was her husband, not her family. And at the time, Casey says the list of suspicious death cases in California law didn't include cases with a history of domestic violence. Everybody knows that if a wife or a girlfriend dies, the suspect, first suspect's always going to be the intimate partner. So why in the world would that not be suspicious if a woman dies and there's a prior history of domestic violence? Casey says Joanna's case isn't isolated. Alliance for Hope has a program called Justice Project, which independently reviews possible hidden homicides around the country at the request of family members. Casey says they saw so many cases, like Joanna's, that they realized they needed laws. When a family loses a loved one and law enforcement shuns them or treats them as if they're not important and you've just got to stay out of this, They're really violating the fundamental rights of a family that really, at the end of the day, may well themselves be secondary crime victims. It wasn't just that the families didn't have access to records in cases like Joanna's. It's that most law enforcement offices either lacked protocol around investigating deaths with a history of domestic violence, or they didn't follow the protocol that was in place. Joanna's law became a focus on basically these three things. One, we need to make sure families have a right to all these records. Number two, we need to make sure that when there's a premature death of a person where there's a prior history of domestic violence, it should be investigated as a homicide until proven otherwise. And number three, we put these 10 red flag factors into state law to say nobody should determine manner and cause of death until they have evaluated those 10 factors. 10 red flag factors. The person died prematurely or in an untimely manner. The death scene appeared to result from a suicide or accident. One partner wanted to end the relationship. There was a history of being victimized by domestic violence that included coercive control. The person was found dead in a home or place of residence. The person was found by a current or previous partner. There was a history of being victimized by domestic violence that included strangulation or suffocation. The current or previous partner of the person who died or their child was the last to see the person alive. The partner had control of the scene before law enforcement arrived. The body of the person was moved or the scene or other evidence was altered in some way Casey says the Justice Project has never had a case that met all 10 factors that they didn't determine was actually a homicide. Joanna's law passed unanimously in California. Casey wants to see a similar law rolled out in every state, but he says there are barriers. We meet some resistance from law enforcement who feels like maybe this is an attack on law enforcement. We don't see it as an attack on law enforcement. We have a ton of detectives, medical examiners, death investigators on our faculty, and all of them say what we're talking about in Joanna's law should be standard practice. The people that oppose it tend to think that we're somehow trying to second guess law enforcement in their investigations or try to show that they did something wrong. He says opponents also raise concern about the cost. If so-called hidden homicides are really happening, how much money would it take to reopen all those cases? If there are another thousand murders in the United States of women happening, we shouldn't be talking about cost. we should be talking about solving them. More after the break. It's hard to ignore that childhood has changed in a lot of ways, and one of the most striking reasons is the role technology is playing in it. From the NPR Network and KPBS, this is Screen Time, a podcast featuring conversations about technology and kids in today's digital age. Listen to Screen Time wherever you get your podcasts. Sierra's case is very different from Joanna's. We didn't find any records of domestic abuse charges against Eric in criminal or civil courts. And no one, including Sierra's family, says Eric was ever physically abusive toward her. Sierra's case doesn't meet all 10 red flags in Joanna's law. But the available evidence indicates her death could have met several of them. SDPD Captain Judd Campbell reviewed Sierra's case in 2022. He did not talk with me directly, but provided recorded audio statements through an SDPD spokesperson for this story. He says Joanna's law wouldn't have changed anything about Sierra's case because he believes they already investigated it thoroughly as Joanna's law requires. When there are risk factors present, what Joanna's Law asks you to do is to actually deploy resources to confirm, you know, and investigate what it is. And that's what happened here. The same thing that would have happened under Joanna's Law happened when an entire homicide team was deployed to this. I asked Casey if his team had any estimate of how often hidden homicides happened. He says it's hard to know. A peer-reviewed research study estimated the rate in England and Wales more than 130 a year. That's just one study. And of course, it's not great science to extrapolate from one country to another. But Casey says if that study is anywhere near accurate, adjusting for factors like population, there would be somewhere between 1,200 and 2,000 cases of hidden homicide a year in the U.S. 200 a year in California. Whether or not that is true, I cannot tell you. All I can tell you is that as our focus on this, and our program is called the Justice Project now, working on these cases, as our program has evolved, we are training all over the country, and everywhere we go and train, someone in the audience in that community says we have a case like that. We've never been any place where somebody hasn't said we have a case. In fact, we have three cases in a rural community in Oregon in one small county. There are three of these cases since we started raising awareness there. So I don't think that the number is small. He says passing the law is just the first step. It's hard to roll out, to enforce, to get the attention of local agencies, and to train them all. I brought up Joanna's Law to an STPD homicide lieutenant who denied the family's most recent request for the full and unredacted case files. In Sierra's case, her family were already her next of kin. STPD said they gave them all the records they would give any next of kin. In an email, they maintain their denial for the full records, saying that evidence is exempt from disclosure, including the photographs, text messages, Eric's Uber receipt, and audio recordings of the witness interviews in Sierra's case. Judd again. There are still laws in place, and there are still items that if we provide them, that it waives confidentiality, for example, and it can have pretty significant complications. for not just this case, but other cases. Casey Gwynn says the Justice Project would argue that if the investigation is closed, there's no exemption for scene photos or other evidence. In Joanna's case, all scene photos were turned over. He wrote in an email, quote, It saddens me that SDPD continues to hide records and information in a closed case. Why? Why not give the family the information they have requested? End quote. Maybe the complete records would confirm some of the police department's conclusions. Maybe they would answer some of the family's questions. Maybe they would raise new ones. Of course, Sierra's death affected the department too. Her squadmate found her body. Her sergeant had to radio in her death. Sierra was their co-worker, and for some, their friend. They ruled her death a suicide. I sent SDPD a few dozen questions related to Sierra's case, including why the gun was removed from the scene before the medical examiner arrived, whether they had record of Jeremy Gates' call to dispatch, and to an SDPD officer to check on Sierra, What response they had to the concern that tossing the bloody bath mat into the apartment dumpster was throwing away possible evidence? Weather detectives investigated the discrepancies between Eric's witness statement and Sierra's call log. They didn't answer specific concerns with the investigation. But Judd said that any inconsistencies don't shake the suicide ruling in his eyes. Any investigation you give to me from any department or any case throughout this country, I can pick it apart. I can go through and find minor things and say, look at this, it's inconsistent with this. That what an investigation looks like In fact I would be super concerned if an investigation perfectly lined up because people memories aren always the same They don quite get this date right or get this time right. If an investigation was completely streamlined, I would have significant concerns about the investigators that were assigned to that. So yes, any investigation that you look at of this scope is going to have minor things that you can point to. But what you have to do with all of these investigations is you have to weigh out the evidence, weigh it out against each other, look at scene diagrams and photographs and statements, and you take all of that evidence, and that's how you eventually reach your ultimate conclusion. It's my hope that this podcast, going back and looking at Ciara, looking at her life, looking at the circumstances surrounding her suicide, it's my hope that it will give the Estrada family closure. Jeremy Gates, the sheriff's deputy who is one of the last people to speak with Ciara, also believes it was a suicide. Law enforcement needs more resources for suicide prevention. Jeremy says law enforcement officers are exposed to trauma regularly and the culture teaches them to shove it aside. If you talk about, you know, your troubles and you talk about, you know, you're dealing with this, you're viewed as weak, you're viewed as little, you're not viewed like you can handle critical situations. It's a deadly combination. Data show officers are far more likely to die by suicide than be killed by a suspect. For Sierra's family, her death isn't something that can be resolved, even by changing policy, even by telling her story. Will it help somebody else? That'd probably be the best thing. Is it going to help heal the family? No. We're damaged goods for the rest of our lives. Five months after my first visit, I drive up to the Estrada's house in Marietta. The Easter decorations are gone. Halloween decorations are up. But I put monsters in the trees, like here. Skeletons and ghosts. I have a witch that goes here that's really scary. A photo of five-year-old Sierra in a Cinderella costume, the same one I had at that age. And there's Sierra Cinderella. Oh my God. And Cheyenne's a little witch. I hand her parents back all the things they gave me to try to make sense of what happened. Condolences sent to the funeral home from all around the world, from people who'd seen the viral video of Sierra. Astrological readings Julie paid to have done about Sierra and that night. Sierra's laptop and iPad. The chargers Larry plugs into them every three months to make sure they never die. The DVD slideshow that played at her funeral. We climb into their van and head to Sierra's gravesite. None of these rows are here. When Sierra died, all these people filled up this whole thing and now look how they're already putting them over there. Wow. So many people have died. The area of the cemetery Sierra is in has filled up since she died. There's one empty spot next to her, where Julie and Larry plan to be buried one day. Julie glances at the clock when we arrive. 2.13, Sierra's birthday. Julie says it's a sign that Sierra knows I'm here. her headstone has two photos of her one in uniform and one in plain clothes I put sunflowers, one of her favorite flowers into vases on either side and set down a monster energy drink small tokens to say that I tried to learn who she was but I listened carefully to each word her family said I asked Julie what she wants people to take from Sierra's story. If you're a woman and you're contemplating a career in law enforcement, don't. Larry had a different answer. I think the podcast will help make the truth about who she is. Because anybody can Google search a name and come up with all sorts of weird stuff. And when you Google Sierra's name, you get all sorts of stuff not related to her or related to her, but that's not true. So I think what I look forward to is that there at least be more of an official record of what happened and more about her. He wants the record cleared up and her story preserved. Everybody that knew Sierra knows that she would never do this. As Julie talks, Larry walks to the front of Sierra's headstone. He bends down and sweeps off the yellow petals that have already begun to fall. He opens a water bottle and pours it onto the stone, takes out a cloth and rubs in careful circles. The dirt and debris lift off. and to see her as face and name become clear again. If you or someone you know have thoughts of suicide or need emotional support, please call or text 988. If you or someone you know are experiencing domestic abuse, please call 1-800-799-7233 or text START to 88780. Help is available 24-7. One of Their Own is produced by me, Katie Heysen, and edited by David Washburn with support from Elizabeth Hames. Mix and sound design by Emily Jankowski. KPBS Roundtable offers perspectives from those telling San Diego stories. Join us for weekly conversations with reporters and storytellers, adding depth and context to the headlines driving the news in the San Diego region. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.