Summary
Kentucky Sports Radio hosts discuss the NCAA championship game, the transfer portal opening, and Mark Pope's recruiting strategy for year three. The show analyzes Michigan's championship win as a blueprint for portal success and examines potential point guard targets including Deedon Thomas from LSU and Devon Vanderpool from Florida Atlantic.
Insights
- Portal success requires identifying undervalued talent early; Michigan's championship team featured players Kentucky also targeted but failed to secure, suggesting Pope's evaluation is sound but execution/compensation lags
- Injured player recruitment carries compounding risk; after Jaden Quayton's injury, targeting another injured point guard (Thomas) could damage credibility if injury recurs
- Information asymmetry in portal recruiting: teams using reporters as market intelligence brokers gain advantage; Pope's staff avoiding this network may leave them uninformed on competitor offers and market rates
- Blue blood programs retain structural advantages in portal era despite increased competition; recovery speed depends on coaching hire quality and immediate portal execution, not historical prestige alone
- Compensation strategy matters more than total spend; some players (Malachi Reno) accept below-market offers for program fit and respect, while others (Mo Diabate) prioritize maximizing final earning opportunity
Trends
Portal market fragmentation: mid-tier programs (Baylor, LSU) willing to make portal players highest-paid roster members, competing directly with blue bloods offering lower compensationInjury risk premium in portal: teams increasingly hesitant to target recovering players after multiple injury-related recruiting failures, creating market inefficiencyInformation asymmetry as competitive advantage: coaching staffs using reporter networks for market intelligence outpace those operating independentlyPlayer agency leverage: agents now primary information source for media coverage when coaching staffs minimize public communication, shifting narrative controlWomen's basketball NIL disparity: dedicated donor streams exist but insufficient to compete with football/basketball funding, creating retention risk for successful coachesCoaching mobility in women's basketball: successful mid-major coaches (Kenny Brooks) becoming targets for better-funded ACC programs, threatening SEC program stabilityPortal depth expansion: 1000+ players in portal creates evaluation burden; success depends on scouting efficiency rather than total spendingRapid program turnaround feasibility: Michigan's transformation from 3-conference-win program to national champion in 2 years demonstrates portal-era recovery speedCompensation transparency breakdown: wide ranges (7-9 million) used in negotiations suggest agents inflating offers; actual market rates differ significantly from reported figures
Topics
NCAA Transfer Portal Strategy and ExecutionPoint Guard Recruitment and Injury Risk AssessmentPortal Market Compensation and Negotiation TacticsCoaching Staff Information Networks and Reporter RelationshipsBlue Blood Program Competitive Advantages in Portal EraWomen's Basketball NIL Funding and Coach RetentionPlayer Evaluation and Scouting in Portal MarketRapid Program Turnaround Through Portal AcquisitionsAgent-Driven Information Flow in RecruitingMid-Tier Program Competitive PositioningInjured Player Recruitment Risk ManagementKentucky Basketball Year Three ExpectationsNational Championship Game AnalysisWomen's Basketball Program Stability and FundingPortal Player Valuation and Market Inefficiencies
Companies
Michigan Athletics
Won NCAA championship with portal-heavy roster; serves as model for Pope's recruiting strategy
LSU Athletics
Home of Deedon Thomas, top point guard target; willing to pay premium for portal players
Baylor Athletics
Competing for portal players by offering top-tier compensation to make them highest-paid roster members
UConn Athletics
Won sixth national championship under Danny Hurley; Kentucky maintains two-title lead historically
Florida Atlantic Athletics
Home of Devon Vanderpool, guard being recruited by Kentucky via Zoom meeting
Syracuse Athletics
Donnie Freeman, four-man target, plays for Syracuse in portal
University of Virginia Athletics
Reportedly pursuing Kenny Brooks as women's basketball coach; potential threat to UK retention
Tennessee Women's Athletics
Historic program allowing women's basketball to collapse due to NIL funding prioritization on football/basketball
South Carolina Athletics
Replaced Tennessee as women's basketball power; competing with Texas and UConn for top talent
Comedy Off Broadway
Lexington comedy venue advertising upcoming shows featuring Ian Bag, Tim Meadows, and Amber Autry
People
Matt Jones
Primary host analyzing transfer portal, championship game, and Kentucky basketball recruiting
Mark Pope
Third-year coach whose recruiting strategy and portal execution is central focus of discussion
Dusty May
Won national championship with portal-heavy roster; turned around Michigan program in two years
Malachi Reno
Returning player who took below-market offer to stay at Kentucky for program-building opportunity
Deedon Thomas
Third-best point guard in portal; injured foot but top target for Kentucky recruiting
Devon Vanderpool
Guard from FAU meeting with Kentucky via Zoom; strong scorer with low turnover rate
Donnie Freeman
Four-man target for Kentucky; caller expressed strong desire to land him in portal
Kenny Brooks
Third-year coach; took team to Sweet 16; potential target for UVA; retention concern for UK
Mo Diabate
Entered portal; brought toughness but didn't fit Pope's offensive spacing needs; signed elsewhere
Tom Leach
Co-host/colleague; had guests discussing portal targets including Tyron Stokes and Travis Branham
Carolyn Peck
Women's basketball analyst; discussed Tennessee's collapse and historic program mismanagement
Danny Hurley
Won third national championship in four years; Kentucky maintains two-title historical lead
Tamara Gustafson
Richest person in Kentucky; storage unit fortune; potential donor for UK women's basketball
Tom Kreen
Recommended watching Florida Atlantic game; praised Devon Vanderpool's performance
Quotes
"You can recover overnight. Sure you can. Now I mean, you gotta have the right hire. Right. That's the beauty of the portal, but you can recover overnight."
Matt Jones•Early segment discussing Michigan's turnaround
"Mark Pope had the right game plan, just the wrong execution."
Caller/Panel discussion•Championship game analysis
"He took less than the highest offers to come back so that Kentucky could build a team around it."
Matt Jones (citing Jack Pilgrim report)•Malachi Reno discussion
"At his best, he'll be one of the best guards available. Like at health, right now, just so people know, ranked the third best point guard in the portal."
Matt Jones•Deedon Thomas evaluation
"We can't let that happen. We've got a potential guy here in Kenny Brooks and we can't lose it to UVA."
Matt Jones•Women's basketball retention discussion
Full Transcript
Known for his crowd work, Comedy Off Broadway in Lexington welcomes club favorite Ian Bag, April 9th through the 11th, then from Saturday Night Live and the hit TV show DMV, catch Tim Meadows, April 16th through the 18th, and from Netflix and social media catch Amber Autry May 1st and 2nd, for tickets to all Comedy Off Broadway shows call 859-271 Joke or visit ComedyOffBroadway.com. Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday, April 7th. I am Matt Jones here on a nice day in Lexington, Kentucky, where we are debuting or at least I guess testing some new camera video equipment that could make this show look professional one day. I'm hearing good things. I can't see it because I'm on the other side of it. You guys can't see it. I'm looking at the screen. It's crazy. Does it look good? Oh yes. We're like, is this 4K or 5K? All right. Well, good. I wish someone had told me I would have shaved and worn contacts today, but this stuff's not getting out today. But now, I mean, if it looks this good, I might have to not wear hoodies. This, I don't know, it could change my entire wardrobe. It's very high tech. And like when one of us starts talking, the camera automatically switches to that camera. Yeah. So apparently there's, there's AI in this, I'm told. By the way, Clark's Pump It Shop phone line is 859-280-2287. AVision Auto Glass Text Machine 772-7745254 in this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith law office called TJ Omega Pay. I'm told that this, like Mario, when it's over, can say give us the five, you know, or like that when they were talking about Mark Pope put together a clip and it can give him something to start from. So it actually leads to where he can put out more clips every day if he wants. So he, he's, it's made it to where he's going to have to do more work, which is nice. It does the hard part for him though. He doesn't have to edit who's talking like literally when Ryan started talking, a camera moved and it went to him and showed you in a split screen. So actually, Mario, you might be getting pushed out the door by this fancy equipment. You get to train yourself for your replacement. So these, are these lights, these little lights right here? There's gonna be lights and like everybody's gonna look better. I'm looking forward to it. But, but this is a big day today. I mean, let's just, the portal opens according to our wonderful president civilization may end at eight o'clock tonight. So there's a lot happening this morning. Yeah, it's been nice working with you guys. World coming to an end tonight. I thought all we wanted was cheaper eggs. And now we need, we need cheaper. Now we want cheaper gas. Let's just hope we get to that point, but we won't spend today. I don't want to make everybody enraged. It's transfer portal day. It is transfer portal day. I want to, we're gonna talk a lot about it. Let's, let's start though for a second with the game last night. Yeah. Because I think not so much that first of all, are we glad Michigan won? Yes. Avoid the worst case scenario. You kind of winning would have been bad. Yeah. That's Michigan. That's fine. I mean, anyway, they got two now. I mean, it stinks. A lot of those guys on the court last night were Kentucky targets and we finished second, but other than that, whatever, Michigan, congratulations. That was kind of my takeaway in some ways is that that Michigan team was probably the vision of what Mark Popped hope would happen here. Right. They had five. So think about it. Second year coach. Yes. Right. Yes. They had five transfers, a lot of size. And I actually think Mark tried to get a lot of size. We had five bigs on the roster. Even though guys got hurt and some people didn't, we had five bigs on the roster, a lot of size, but very efficient offensively. We were not, but you're right. We recruited a couple of those guys. I mean, Yaxle, Yaxle, the point guard we looked at. Demery Mullins was probably going to be here. I'm just saying the court altogether. Yeah. Demery Mullins. Both were people that we thought could end up here. They called the big guy who had such a big game are a few UCLA. I don't know how close that guy, but he's another one we were watching last spring. There's only a moment I was looking at the court and I was like, I remember writing about most of these guys in Kentucky and they're close and depending on who you ask, Kentucky either spent the most money on their roster or some people think the second to Michigan just depends on who you ask. So as I sat there and watched it, I thought, all right, there's two ways you can look at this. You can look at this and go, Oh no, like second year coach. We struggled all year and they got transfers and we got the wrong ones and you can be like well, we went in the wrong direction or you can say Mark Pope had the right game plan, just the wrong execution. Which one would you all be in that regard? I think they didn't get heating at the right players. So you think right game plan, wrong execution, right game plan, wrong execution, still the right coach, still the right coach. Okay. And I'm, you know, I'm told not hope that this year he will get the right players, but even the Axl, he was good coming out of UAB. They had no idea he was going to be this good. Yeah, they did. He was the top transfer. He almost went to the draft. I mean, he, well, okay, did they think he was going to be a first team all American? Right. I mean, maybe not. But I mean, I bet that was Michigan's hope. Yes. I mean, he was, he was the, the, the number one player in the portal and Mara took a step up. Now he definitely is better. I think the people thought he would be in Kado took a big step. North Carolina threw him away. And then he ends up being a most outstanding player in the final four. Yeah. Yeah. That wouldn't have been predicted. I saw it as Pope saw the right people because I mean, he targeted a lot of these guys and just didn't get over the hook. So I believe he can spot them. We got to get them though. I agree with you on that. I mean, he did with Yaxle, Dimmery, Mullins clearly wanted these guys, all of whom had quite a bit of success, but he didn't get any of them. And so what do we make of that? Do we make of it? Can he get them? In the future? We certainly spent the money, but we just didn't get them. Yaxle said they offered him what seven to nine million. Remember? I don't believe that. I mean, I'm on Pope's side on that. I don't believe Kentucky offered anybody seven to nine. First of all, it would be ludicrous for him to take it. We don't know what his life is going to be like. He said he's projected a draft. He may not play in the draft. I mean, he probably will play in the NBA, but he might not. It would be insane to, to, to not take this. I don't believe that I'm on Pope's. I think that's me too. And I said at the time, seven to nine million is not an offer. Seven to nine million is a nine million dollar offer. Yeah, exactly. It's a big range that you throw. You can't go. You know what? I'll take seven. I know you give me nine, but I'll take seven. So I'm glad Michigan won UConn now six times. We still have a two title lead on UConn with Danny Hurley. Still relatively young. We might need it. That's the thing. UConn doesn't get their seventh, but more importantly, Danny Hurley doesn't get his third in four years. He would have been unbearable. And then dusty may, you know, I mean, what you think about dusty may for a second? Cause dusty may a little, little insiders were posting that they were preparing the press conference for dusty may a little like they had a time and we're ready. And dusty may last night in the post game said Louisville, Vandy in Michigan, one of me, he said, I initially was more interested in one. I'm going to assume he means Louisville and he goes, and then I just decided I can win the national championship at Michigan implication. I don't know if I'm going to Louisville. That's, you know, so we were close to having that dude down the road. Ouch. That would be a big problem. If you're a Louisville fan, you'd be kind of sick. Oh, yeah. For us, we had no chance at him because Cal hadn't left yet. Right. I mean, we had done the reconciliation interview, taking his dog down the street in a stroller. I forgot all about that. Like we were still doing all that. So we had no chance. He was already hired at Michigan when the job came open. But it's interesting just as a sort of thought exercise, you know, after we lost to Oakland, what if they'd moved immediately? We still would have owed that money, which means I don't think they could. But for Louisville, you'd be sick. Right. And Pat Kelsey may still end up being good, but you'd be sick. Yeah, they had him. They probably didn't think there'd be a championship two years later, but a big loss for them. And watching that game last night, I kept thinking about, and I posted a picture. We went and saw Michigan the year before Dusty May got hired, that Indiana game. It was pretty empty in the picture. I tweeted me and Ryan look to be the only people standing up caring about what's going on. I think they won three conference games that year. And it just shows how immediate things can turn around with the right hire and the right portal edition. Cause what we saw was not a program on heading towards a tournament. And it also shows something that I think fans need to remember in the portal era. You're never like the program is never going to be in a place where it can't recover. You can recover overnight. Sure you can. Now I mean, you gotta have the right hire. Right. That's the beauty of the portal, but you can recover overnight. Yep. You can go out there and in two years, I mean, last year we made the sweet 16 this year, they win the national championship. You can do it. Yep. And I also think Yukon shows that the idea that blue bloods are done is, is false. I do think we've learned and we'll talk about Carolina later. Blue bloods have a harder time just picking whatever coach they want now, but blue bloods still haven't. Yeah, I believe they still have an advantage. And we need to take advantage of our advantage. What's gets, what's gets, which gets me to portal stuff. So Malcolm, a Reno, if you listen to the show, we told you exactly what was going to happen coming back to Kentucky, but going through the draft process. I expect him to play at Kentucky absent something crazy. Good news. What was interesting is in Jack Pilgrim's report says took less than the highest offers to come back so that Kentucky could build a team around it. What do you make of that? Surprising that in this era, someone would take a little bit of a pay cut to go. So we don't know. Do we know how much? I don't know how much, but you know, Malachi immediately posted on Instagram a picture of him, a kid in UK gears that have always been a cat. You know, we all know the stories from right down the road. It showed that, you know, some of that stuff still matters. Certainly Malachi has case, but it's not all money. We like to think it's just signed on the dotted line, but he clearly wants to be at UK and luckily worked out in UK's favor that way. Now, Mr. Allen Keck for governor shirt. Wow. It's a throwback. I mean, I have to be the only person in the world that is still wearing that shirt. Allen Keck, but he ran three years ago and came in third in the primary or fourth, I think they're very comfortable hoodie. How long are you going to keep rocking that? Well, like I said, it's kind of soft. And I'm going to pull it out of the closet. Oh, this feels good. So I think I'll keep it till you run for president. I'm trying to think of what would be a more random shirt. Like what other fourth place primary governor shirts could you see out there? I was going to surprise you. Maybe a Peppy Martin for governor shirt. I tried to find my Kelly Kraft for governor t-shirt to wear underneath this. You're the only person who endorsed every candidate. Yeah. Can you also endorse Danny Bashir? I did. Yeah. Yeah. You give him a t-shirt to endorse and you like Ryan Corals. I wear my Ryan Corals t-shirt a lot. So you have a t-shirt for him too? Yes. Yeah. So you and Mike Harmon. Mike Harmon didn't run for governor, did he? Yeah. That one year he was up there on the podium on the debate. It was the same year. Yeah, same year. So there were five. Feed the data, steal the data. It wasn't steal the data. I think that would be a weird primary campaign. Steal the data. I believe there were five Republican candidates. Uh-huh. You endorsed four of the five. I did. You didn't endorse Daniel Cameron. Correct. Because he didn't show up. Because he didn't want to come to the debate. And he didn't give me any clothes. You give me a shirt. I'm wearing it. I wear that Ryan Corals t-shirt a lot. And then you also endorsed Danny Bashir, the Democrat. I did. So you endorsed five of the six candidates. But I got the winner. I supported the winner. True. All right. You hinted all year. Like just be respectful to Mallika. That was your thing. Yeah. Did you kind of know that he would be willing to go under market value as long as it was respectful? I think he just wanted to feel wanted and feel respected and feel like you want me a part of this because he wanted, like Drew said, he wanted to be a part of this. I think he just wanted to feel the same from the other side. And I think there were some hurt feelings there for a little while that he wasn't feeling that love, that respect, that need. But I guess it came. It came. Respect comes. For sure. Yes. Yeah. As do your shirts. I like to think he goes to his closet and it's just a bunch of politician shirts. You know how like they send Super Bowl loser shirts to Africa. They send political loser shirts to ride. Is one like formal ones, you know, today radio, maybe work out your Kelly Kraft shirt. You wear your Coral shirt. He's got 10 different versions of Amy McGrath shirt for all the erection she runs for. I really put my through my hat in totally for Alan Keck because he gave me the hoodie. The other guy just gave me a T shirt. Alan Keck brought me a hoodie to Waffle House at one night. You're going to get loaded up with more gear from whoever's running Nick because I was knocking on the door right now. I was thinking about this. You know, this congressional spot in Lexington is now open, right? Like Andy Barr woke Andy Barr or whatever they call each other on those ads. He's running for Senate, so it's open. So there's like five Republicans and five Democrats running and I just realized I don't know who they are. And if I don't know who they are, there's no way the general public knows. Right? So Ryan's closet could decide the winner. You could literally end up with your spring war. I am open for debate. He loves an election year. It's when he gets a new wardrobe. We'll take a break. More on Kentucky players coming going and then some portal targets. There are already 1000 players in the portal. My goodness. We'll take a break. Great bags. KSR. Welcome back. It is Kentucky sports radio 859-280-22. I said we are going to take calls. So go ahead and get in the phones 859-280-2287. One person writes, Matt, watching the game last night. I was just sitting there thinking there's no way we could have played with either of these teams. I think we could have played with Yukon in a one game scenario. I mean, we could have. There's a world we could have played with them. I don't think there was a world that we would, we would have more than like a miracle game beaten Michigan. I agree. I think I even texted a few people. That looks like a fun sport. They're playing out there. Yeah. It was also very physical. Kentucky in a game that physical wouldn't have stood a chance. Now you are going to do a good job of roughing it up early. That was very physical and the ref had the high knees. Yeah. The high knee guy. He was, I like that. He didn't go down. Yeah. Yeah. He hopped right back. It's all that training. It's all the training. I love that the high knees guy got his time in the sun. Did you notice one of the other referees was the one you got frustrated with at the Iowa State Kentucky game, the bald one. Oh, the bald guy. He was on there. Yeah. He was in the final four. Howard, where's pants? Mock worthy again. A little, a little. All right. Diabata in the portal. I said yesterday they were basically haggling over price. I guess the haggling didn't work. Yeah. I'm all I loved what Diabata did. He was fun. There's not many dudes that can bring that physicality and toughness, but you know, with Pope's offense, he needs a shooter in that spacing. So seeing him go, would I've liked him back? Sure. As a sixth man, but I'm hopeful Pope can go find something better that fits the puzzle a little more than Diabata did. I think that was part of the problem last year is Pope overcorrect, overcorrected with defense and didn't have enough shooters. Yeah. After his first year in the conference, he said, I need to go out and get somebody like Mo Diabata on my team. When he went out and got Diabata, he was the only one who brought the toughness most of the season. I think Diabata could have been someone you brought back, but you couldn't bring him back at $2 million a year. Right. See, here's one of the things I think you're going to see interesting in the port. There are going to be guys who teams would like to have that other teams are willing to pay top dollar for that you want to pay third or fourth dollar. So there was somebody I just saw that got in the portal. Who was it? Jacob just did a story. And it was like Kentucky and Duke wanting, but Baylor and LSU are willing to make them their top guy. I think you're going to see that. So sure. You're going to see guys who probably would rather play for Kentucky or Duke, but Kentucky and Duke can only offer half the money because Baylor and LSU are going to build the team around this. Right. And a lot of these guys like Diabata, it is their last year to make big money. I mean, the NBA probably didn't call on these. Yeah, they'll end up overseas making decent money. This is your last shot to make a couple million. That's probably what Diabata is. Diabata may be like, all right, I can go to a team and be the second highest paid. I'd be the fifth or sixth highest paid on Kentucky. So I can't do that. Yeah. And I get that, especially for somebody. You're right. Like him, who's probably not going to play. All right. So the, the portal is now open. All right. And so the question is who's Kentucky going after? Now let me let, I'm going to do, I want to give like a little context for everybody that's listening at home and, you know, seeing this when you see it online. This staff has taken a unique approach in my opinion to how information gets out about players. I will tell you what most staffs do. And then I'll tell you what it seems like Pope staff is doing. Most staffs believe that the best way to get good information on the portal is to sort of use reporters, both national and local kind of as sounding boards. What do the national and local reporters want? Well, they want information, right? For their people. What do the coaches want? They want information on what other schools are doing and who's paying for one. And these reporters in this new portal world are kind of playing important roles. They talk to the agents, they talk to the coaches, they talk to the players and they kind of give each other information. So for instance, you know, take Mo Diabate, Mark Pope or someone on his staff would go to a reporter. All right. How much does his agent say he wants? He say he wants to. Does anybody offer him to? Well, I'm here and Baylor will offer him to. Okay. Well, we're not going to go past one. And they're almost like middlemen. Would you agree with this? Yeah. And the national guys, especially, I think, play a huge role in this. And some local guys, but the national guys really do. Your Joe Tipton's, et cetera. Kentucky staff and they did, they did not do this the first year. The first year, they kind of use those people. Last year, they really didn't. I would argue that's why they sometimes ended up paying too much and too little. And this year it's looking like they're not going to again. So my point is to say to you, when we talk about players on the Kentucky side, at least I can tell you it's hard to know what Mark Pope wants because Mark Pope's people, as of this point, really aren't saying much. You're now hearing it from the agent. So when you see stories, it's mostly coming from the agents. When you see a story, Mark Pope's going to talk to this player. For the most part, it's coming from the player because for the second straight year, UK's kind of taking the view we're doing our own thing. Now, maybe it'll work. I think last year it caused them to not understand the market, hopefully with the addition of the guy, the new, whatever, keeping brown the dorm, maybe he'll know more of what all's going on. And I hope that's true. So I just think that's important to know until you kind of hear me otherwise say, I don't think we still have a whole lot of idea of what UK wants with one exception. I think it's fairly clear that this kid from LSU is one of Pope's two top targets for a point guard. Thomas. Deedon Thomas. Deedon Thomas played at LSU left handed, right? Remember we had all those plays for left handed. Got a couple left handed targets on the portal board. Maybe we're running back the left handed. He must like the lefties was really good last year when he played led the SEC and assists when he played was probably the second best point guard in the league when he played, but then he was out because he hurts foot and was out the last half of the year. Did he play against us? No, I don't think he did. Yeah. Cause he was hurt and then didn't. I think the injury might have been short before our game. I, my view drew is if the kid is healthy, he's exact. He's kind of what I would want at point guard. I wish he shot a little bit better, but his assist, his assist to turnover ratio was great, but he wasn't healthy. So do you run it back for a third straight year and cross your fingers on a healthy point guard? I really like him in Kentucky recruited him before low last year and they did the zoom and he loves Pope and he loves Kentucky and then he went to LSU and then Kentucky ends up below. So we know there's already a connection there in recruitment. I don't love going after an injured guy with what you've been through regardless of his game. Cause I think he's really good. I don't think you can just go get another injured person and then next year if it goes wrong, but like, well, we got injured again. If I promised you he was healthy, would you? Yeah, I like him if he's okay. So he was great at UNLV. It's just how much risk, like how much are you willing to risk an injury? How much are you willing to risk? Like I said, after the Jaden Quayton's experience, I don't know. Gunshot maybe he hurt his foot, but it's heal. Yeah. I think I mean Kentucky is talking to him. I believe actually as we speak. So just something to watch, but we might have another. Please don't get injured. Another gamble. We'll see. We'll take a break. Take a cause right for this. KSI. Welcome back. Tucky sports ready. All right. Stuff's going to continue to happen throughout the show and throughout the next couple of days. Dev Devon Vanderpult pool from Florida Atlantic. Kentucky is meeting with today via zoom. He's a guard from Florida Atlantic. Normally I would not know anyone from Florida Atlantic or schools like that, but Tom Kreen was on KS or on ESPN with me one Sunday and he asked me, he was like, will you watch Florida Atlantic versus South Florida? I'm calling the game today. And I was cause I, he asked what are you doing today? I'm like nothing. He goes, watch this game. So I felt like I owed it to it. Sure. And I watched a half. So I've watched this kid for one half, but in that half he was the best player on the floor. There we go. And I was like, all right, that kid's good. And I could tell Kreen loved him. So he's a guard and he's probably the second person I know for a fact. Kentucky's talking to today. There are others I'm sure, but those are the ones that I know. Yeah, I'd be lying if I said I watched any Florida Atlantic basketball this year. No, I'm proud of you, but it's just box score watching. He's had some huge games, scored a lot of points, keeps his turnovers down, good rebounder. I mean, he's got the numbers. Yeah. He's a great score. He could be like, I don't know if he's a dude, but he's close to a dude. Like he, I definitely would love to have that. All right. So let's go to the phones. I want to ask people the injury stuff, et cetera. Plus Rick, just as kind of a tease, you did watch neighbors episode six. I hear. Yes, I did. Oh, I can't wait to hear Rick's opinion. That's probably his homework. That's Rick. Rick's big show. I know. But like, well, I don't, I want to hear anything. I just want to get his natural. It's a natural episode. I want to get his natural. Yeah, it's about as natural as you can get. That's the score. All right. Let's go to Jordan, Rick. Jordan, go ahead. Hey, Matt. So, you know, kind of touching on what you were speaking on with, you know, Dayton Thomas from LSU. He is a good player when he plays. He's actually guarded out with what it would like for us to have. I am a little leery about the injury thing, but for me, I think him or Vanderpool is actually good options. But the guy that I really, really want, I would do anything for us to land is Donnie Freeman from Syracuse. I want that guy to be our four so bad. Now I'll do anything to get you. Well, I know, I know Kentucky has, I appreciate the call, at least made contact with him. I don't know how interested he is. I mean, there's going to be a million guys come in. There's probably guys coming in. We don't even know yet, but, uh, you know, he's very good. So I want to go back to the injury for a second. Do you consider being injured? So he was just a foot injury, right? Do you consider that like a trait that continues to happen? Or did you just say, well, that was a random occurrence. Ligaments and knees are different to me. But what about just a random foot injury on Thomas and, you know, being healthy next year? Yeah. I would just, I hate the idea of next December, we get, well, we're injured again. When you went out and got a guy coming off the surgery, it could, but like, if you know a guy just said sir, and I would like Thomas, I mean, if he shows up, I will be happy. But in the back of my mind, I'm like, we can't keep saying the injury thing and then going out and getting guys that you're coming off surgery. So if you're a smart Pope and you have to, you got to be good next year, have to make or break your, I think for him, would you, would you risk it with a guy like that? I'm not turning him down, but I'm also making other calls to filling out everybody. But let's say he said on the phone today, I'll come, but I, but today's the day by tomorrow I'll be somewhere else. If you don't want me, are you, are you, are you going to get him in for a physical check? Well, I don't know. Are you turning the key over? At his best, he'll be one of the best guards available. Like at health, right now, just so people know, ranked the third best point guard in the portal. So it's not like he's some chump. He's the third best point guard, 11th best player in the portal. Now that those, the, the, the, it'll go down as new guys enter, but he will finish as a top eight to 10 point guard in the portal without question. Maybe top five to six. I take him and add lots of depth. I don't, I don't rely on him the whole year. You don't rely on him and then just this guy. You cannot, if he were to, if you take him, he were to get hurt. Nobody wants to hear, oh, we got hurt again because you knew the circumstance. Because you knew, like with clients, what would you, would you roll a dice? See, I think you said to make a break here for coach Pope and it's begins and ends with the point guard. He's got to have a good point guard. I think there's his legacy may depend on this point guard for this season. So are you risking it? No. So you're going to look at the kid and go, no, and then you're going to hope something else better comes. Yeah. All right. Part of me got a split decision. Part of me saying take him is I don't know if Pope can, I don't know where Pope is with the other guards. We know last year he didn't get his first second or third option. Probably first four opt. Well, no, Jay, Jaylen low was one of his first, but he probably had four options and he struck out with three. He's still like low. So I don't know how picky Pope can be because I don't know his other conversation. I would take him. I don't know if he has like the money saved for, you know, someone was somebody on with Tom Leach today and said, we're leading now with Tyron Stokes. Did I read that? I didn't hear it. Anybody listen to Tom Leach today? I heard some pieces. I did not hear that part. Message that someone was on with Tom Leach and said that, but I don't know who the someone was. And I also don't know if that actually happened. So this is if anyone listened to Tom, sure, some of it, one of you listen to Tom Leach right on the tech machine and let me know who was on. I'm trying to play it back in my head. You know, I'm a big listen, Tom in the shower. It's got to be Mike. The course was he Mike was on Fridays. Okay. And yeah, I honestly couldn't tell you if somebody knows, I would like to know because I did hear I got a random text message from somebody going, did you hear some somebody was on Tom Leach and said Tyron Stokes is Kentucky, but I know he had had Jenna from the Colonel. I heard that part. I don't think she mentioned Stokes. There might have been another segment. I didn't lift you in the Colonel. They won her. I'm saying no, I could have missed it. I'm in and out. You know, I'm getting ready for our show and Tom's back. I think you need to know you should be up scouting the Tom Leach show. Joey, go ahead, Joey. Yes, is that it? Are you talking to me? Is your name Joey? Yeah, but I don't, I don't remember giving you all my name, but anyway, I must have. Well, no, it pops up sometimes. So even if you didn't like if you like it comes up and you're Joey, I know your phone number. I mean, I'm not going to call you, but I could. Okay. Well, when you accepted my call, I'm, hello, hello, hello. And then I just was just hanging. So good. Okay. Now I know, but what can happen? I shared, yeah, I shared back in 1978 when we won the NCAA championship in St. Louis. I'm calling because you had a brief conversation about the candidates to replace McConnell. I don't want to talk about, I don't want to do that. Are we talking about the congressional candidates? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I shared Nate Morris's dad was a cheerleader with me at UK. Well, that's okay. Well, good. I'm glad. I just thought I'd, yeah, back in 1978. And that's all I'm going to say. You know, he's woke Nate Morris and fake Nate Morris, according to commercials that run every six seconds on the television screen. I know. And he probably might have to do with all that money. I appreciate that. No more nights, that's enough. That's funny. I was just making a joke. Okay. I appreciate the talk. I was just making a joke, not making any. He may be the nicest guy in the world. I've just, it was joke because they run those ads all the time. Does Daniel Cameron ever run an ad? I've not seen one. That's the way to go. I think it's a great strategy. I'm the guy. If I see your ad too much, not even think about you. He's like, there's three of us, but you forget I'm here. I think it's good strategy. Tom Leach had Travis Branham. I didn't hear that. Travis Branham. What did you hear that? I'm just know who his guess was. So maybe Travis said, so it could have been Larry Vaughn. I heard most of Larry. I heard Larry and Jenna. I didn't hear. Larry has Tyron Stokes. And I feel like if Travis said it, that'd be big news, but I'm just letting you know. Okay, wait, Tom Leach. Tom Leach. There we go. Tom Leach. Straight to the source. Tom Leach said Travis Branham was on the show and he thinks Stokes was going to Kansas. So I got the exact opposite. Sorry. I missed the first segment, Tom. Tom. The rest was great. Thank you very much. So just ignore this. Why you got to be careful about random text message, but see, we got to the source. That's right. Can't get a better source than Tom Leach. It's his show for crying out his names in the title. What did Larry Vaughn say? Oh, great things. Joe, go ahead Joe. Thank you, gentlemen. Matt, I'm really interested in everything Mark Pope is doing in this third year, but I also look at the other side of the coin. I know Coach Brooks of our ladies program is going into his third year also. And my question to you, Matt, and I really don't expect an answer because I don't think you probably know either. You think Coach Brooks has enough money? If a number top five girl in the girl transfer portal was available and he would have enough money to go together. My number one worry about Coach Brooks is there are there's scuttlebud out there that Virginia's trying to hire him. Can't have that. So my number one recruit is let's not have that happen because that that chatter is out there. Now I don't know if there's anything to it, but that chatter is out there on the Virginia sides. I'm going to let's just I'm not scared. I'm not scared because Virginia, I just asked you a question. You think he has enough money? If you think he has enough money, you'd be it. Wouldn't you be upset if we lost our coach? There's plenty more coaches out there. What are you worried about? Oh, I know. Cady, Kenny Brooks is pretty good. I'm not in on that. I appreciate it. I'm all in on, uh, Kitty Brooks. So do, do they have money? It's a great question, actually. I do think UK's women's program has money to get players. I'm not sure they have money to get like the number one recruit in the portal, but I do think they have money because there is a dedicated stream of money of donors of UK women who give for UK women. Okay. I don't know if it's enough to get like who South Carolina, Texas and Yukon can get, but I think they're in there to compete at the next tier. Yeah. I mean, right now we have three McDonald's, all Americans and Clara Stratt coming back. That's a great roster. And that might be like, they just, that's what they need. They're like, we're good except one or two supporting piece. Virginia women's basketball, apparently the founder of Reddit loves them and just gives them a lot of money. And I can only assume he's very rich. Yeah. So I'm actually more concerned about that because I have no idea if he's interested, but like he's a Virginia guy, you know, so I just think you get to the SEC. Memorial's awesome. But then that's how the other case, which is you go to the ACC and you could dominate the conference. And if you're at a place unlike Virginia Tech where he was, it actually has a lot of money. So he got Virginia Tech to the final four. What could he do with Virginia and the guy from Reddit? Exactly. Well, we don't have a guy from Reddit, but we have like, who do we have? The guy from FARC, Drew Curtis. He's like women's basketball. Yeah. I think I saw that there was a thing as a story about the richest people in Kentucky. I think we've talked about this once, but I forget, you know, we always mention the crafts and they have to be, I'm sure they're in the top two or three. But the thing that said that the richest person in Kentucky was like a woman with storage units or something. I can't think of the exact company, but she's like the heir to a big storage fortune. Big storage units could, can you like, it's like the only multi or billionaire in the state is a storage unit person. You know what I think about it, but go for a drive around Lexington. You can't go a mile without seeing a storage unit. So they all own by this woman just walking around storing things. I don't know all of them, but what a way to strike rich. Does she like women's basketball? Well, she likes to store things. How about we store some champions? Yeah, let's store some in I. L. money. This person is with our favorite millions. I always see her on the list and doesn't she live in like, like a small town, doesn't she live in like Stanford or something? Doesn't she something like that? I'll pull it up. But yeah, she's the richest person in Kentucky. Last time I saw her, they always have the richest person in Kentucky as being this woman with her storage. Like Drew said, they're everywhere. Every street corner in town. Tamara Gustafson, Gustafson, Gustafson worth 9.1 billion. Her father was B. Wayne Hughes and started all this. So she just like her money is in storage. Yeah. The public storage is the name of the company. Very direct with their name too. Yeah. Well, they take exactly what they are. Yeah. No, no question what they got going on there. What are they doing over there? Public storage. It fixed bicycles. No, that's a lot of money. She should take an interest in your care. Yeah. If you like to be the last. Except by the hammer on the court. Is she single? We'll take a break. Welcome back. Techy Sports Radio 8 5 9 2 8 0 22 87. A couple of one lines. All right. So this woman Gustafson owns her dad owns spin thrift, far, spin thrift farms, which now she owns. She is one of the richest women in the world. Congratulations. And we got to get her involved. KSR presented by public storage has a nice ring to it. I had no idea there was so much money in storage. Like that seems like I'd be a pretty easy gig. Just like you just build it. Then like, all right, put your stuff in there. We'll make sure there's some AC if you pay for it. Yeah. We'll lock the chain. We'll lock the gate. Like put up a few cameras. It feels like that's how are we not? Why am I? Why are we not doing that? I've had to use a storage unit before. KSR storage. It might have even been her brand. I mean, I ran out of room. I don't have enough stuff in there for that. Have that much money off that many storage units. Somebody says they're big USC donors that her dad was connected to OJ. I don't know if you're bragging on that. Just keeps going. Yeah. She went to USC. Also, they donate to USC. Well, I feel like if they donate to USC, that's so far away. She should have one team that's close. Yes. One team far. One team close. The people in LA aren't storing their furniture in Lexington. What about the people here? We got things to store. Our junk is in your facilities. She can pick a sport here. I think it'd be perfect. Women's basketball. She can root for USC football. UK women's basketball. I don't understand the guy who like act like it wouldn't be a big deal if Kenny Brooks. Yeah, that was weird. He just took us to the sweet 16 for the first time in 10 years. Yeah. I mean, we've been good. We were awful when he got here. And if he leaves, he's taking Clara Streck and those McDonald's all Americans with them. No one's leaving. Don't listen to that guy. We're going to get this public storage money into Kenny's hands by by sundown. By sundown. You know, I mean, because you don't want to have happened. If you've been reading what's happened to Tennessee women's team, they have like no players. None. Like I so we had this woman on what's the woman with the big Southern accent that does women's games. She does a lot of Kentucky games. I like her. She's really good. We had her on my ESPN show Sunday to preview the national championship. I cannot remember now. I think it's Carolyn maybe, but she'll be like Carolyn Peck. Yes. How did you know that she was an assistant coach here? Oh, yeah. She was one of the things you know. Yeah. Like you were able to pull Carolyn Peck. Yeah. She was an assistant coach of the U.K. Allen Keck shirt. Uh huh. Maybe under Bernadette. She may have been one of Bernadette's assistants. You're unbelievable. And then she was the head coach at Van. Vandy. Vandy. She was at Purdue at one time. Yeah. He knows her whole resume. I have the resume. He's reading it. Carolyn Peck trading card. I can't wait more. She was the first coach of the Connecticut Sun when the WMA opened. I should have not known the Connecticut Sun. Look it up. Look it up. I think, I think that might be a whiff. I think you went too far. See, you pushed your luck. Maybe it was Bernadette was with the Connecticut Sun. How about the Orlando Miracle? Close enough. Close enough. Unbelievable. Anyway, Ryan's favorite, Carolyn Peck, was on my show and she was ranting about how Tennessee's athletic department has just allowed you, Tennessee Women's Basketball, to fall apart. They won't spend any NIL money on it because they're only spending it on football, basketball, and baseball. And the whole school has transferred and was like, this is one of the saddest things. Tennessee Women's Basketball, the most historic program is being allowed to just collapse. And she was talking about it. And then I saw someone yesterday was talking about the same thing that basically Tennessee's just decided we don't care about the Lady Vols anymore. It's crazy because the court is named Pat Summit Court. You know, when I think of women's basketball, you think of Tennessee and Yukon. Absolutely. Like that's who you think of Tennessee and Yukon and that they're just letting it. So, I mean, we can't, my point of all that to say, we can't let that happen. We've got a potential guy here in Kenny Brooks and we can't lose it to UVA. No. And you got an open door with Tennessee having nothing. No players. I mean, the league is still tough, but Tennessee's not. Oh yeah. South Carolina's probably kind of replaced Tennessee in the issue is good, but now it's you in Texas. But we talk about blue buds for the guy. Tennessee's a blue blood. Yeah. Blue blood for the women. I cannot believe how much you knew about Carol. Yeah. You also called BS. Cause somebody wrote in and said that the woman owned 10 Derby winner horses. And you were very angry about that in the break. I threw the BS flag. There's no way spin thrift farm has 10. He started cussing on the internet. They didn't say they like trained them, but you know, horses have to go somewhere after they win the Derby. Maybe they saw chilling. It's been dying list. Is that where the, the retired people got the retired horses go to chill? Well, they have old friends farm out there. But that's not on spin through. No, we're big fans, old friends. Yeah, we do their thing every who knew again, Ryan's brain, just Carolyn Peck's resume. That's the thing. All right, we'll do more portal. And then we got to talk about another Facebook post that's next here on KSR.