The Business of Cartels: Power, Politics, and Profit | Feb 26, 2026

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If I let it go, it just looks like I got pube face. I feel like we got three good beards here. But see, that was me for a long time, and there's a three or four week period where it's bad, but you just have to go through it. Brother, I'm almost 40 years old. I think this is the face I'm dealing with. No, you haven't done this tip. How long have you let it go? I mean, I don't ever shave. I just kind of buzz. He's not shaving the right way. That's the thing I was getting to. You got to shave up. Okay. You got to get the razor and you got to obviously trim it with the buzzer and then put the shaving cream on and shave up. Go against it. Go against it. Go against it. It took me a long time to learn that. How often do you actually take a razor to your face? uh once a week okay the barber does does the rest okay like if it gets too yeah you're lined up pretty good if it gets scruffy here i'll just take the razor and do it myself yeah other than that i try to get the white socks dave beard going up by your eyeballs yeah see it comes in so you use a real razor yeah i only use a like a buzzer really big t yeah well you can take the guard off it and so like up here like you're talking about her down here yeah i'll just do that never never a razor no and then with the guard on it i'll do you know how to use a razor Yeah. Okay. Well, I didn't have a beard until I was 24. Okay. So I would just shave it bald for a long time. And now I see pictures of myself, and I'm like, I can't believe I was walking around like that. Yeah. Yeah, mine is also like I feel like it helps hide the fat face a little bit. Agreed. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is a couple years ago. I don't know why I had the impulse, but I completely shaved my face is when we're in the Belmont office before everyone moved here. and I was doing a podcast with Danny Conrad and Eddie and they're like yo what is going on like I got a little bit of a health crisis going on yeah uh and I just I was like I'm gonna do something about this yeah I just never did no I've just I've been living at this weight plus or minus five for like the last four years it's tough to get down it's tough to get down sometimes gotta do those Chinese workouts with the with the fellas in the morning yeah I've seen those that office by the way Y'all really undersold. That was a bad spot to be in. I thought it. What do you mean by that? Crime, the office itself. So I thought the office itself. Well, you think about where we're coming from. Well, see, I never saw that. But, yes, obviously that was a disaster. That was like it's like a Portnoy viral clip being like, what are you doing? We had a TV repairman, an immigration lawyer, a real estate guy, an accountant, and then us in a room. Like a room maybe half the size of this. Really? With a table. And we all just kind of sat around the table and blogged and then did our shows from the same spot. There was some curtain, right? There was like a curtain there? No, it was a moving blanket. Okay, moving blanket. But that was functional. It was for acoustics. So we had a lot going on. The Belmont office, yeah, because it's right by the Belmont Red Line, like Clark and Belmont. there's always there's like a cross the store from a sex shop yeah um well i think that's that's that's a gay street there uh getting that way yeah it's sort of near boy's town a little bit which is not called boy's town anymore because it's not inclusive enough now they just call it north halstead really yeah yeah so it was boy's town like signage everywhere and then maybe four or five years ago they're like this isn't fair to all the other people and so they got rid of that But it was really the red line stop at Belmont was the problem. We had one day where you walk into the front door of the office. There was just a massive diarrhea shit all over the front door. Perfect. Yeah. So I would say that the crime historically where we are now is worse than that spot. Yeah, we're not in an incredible spot now. Yeah. Really? Well, I don't venture out much. It's not a good spot over here? Yeah. It's not terrible, but it's not great. Yeah, and this is a little bit of a dead zone, but I would say that the border is still... You don't want to go too far south of Grand, although that's getting better. And then you don't want to ever go really west of Western. Okay. So, Western Avenue. So, there's like Ashland-Damon Western as the next major street. And beyond that, and I lived over there for a few years. Yeah, I will say one day early on when I was driving in, I was trying different routes to get to the office. and somewhere i honestly can't remember but um the gps was like hey you can take this route for to save like seven minutes so it was like back roads to get to the office and about i'd say about eight or nine minutes from here within driving distance there's full-blown prostitution yeah and it was like i want to say early in the morning too like 7 30 8 a.m yeah they're still working they're just they're working girls outside shift in yeah chief took us when we we did a stream last summer uh the the baseball 27 out stream and it was an hour and a half away chief took us through i mean the worst part of town i've seen since i've lived here he got off the interstate and was taking us through yeah it's a it was a rough part of town at night those stop signs you just kind of roll through them yeah that part of town and and did you do that on purpose or no i was following the gps i think yeah it took us off there was traffic so it took us off the interstate yeah and i would not have done that at night and then when i lived i lived on thomas street which and i was like a block west of western the next cross street is campbell and in the two years that i lived there there were uh three shootings that i like heard and like cops come in and there was one time where it happened around like midnight and so the dog was all going crazy and there were cops everywhere so i was just like all right i'm gonna take the dog out because he was still like kind of puppy phase so i take him out i'm walking down my front steps and there's like this group of teenagers there and i had headphones in but nothing was playing and they were just talking and they go dude remember when i got shot last year nobody found out shit you're gonna be fine And I was like, oh my God. So when I moved to New York as an intern, I had negative money and I lived in an apartment in Flatbush, Brooklyn for, I think it was $750 a month. And I got there, like I got off the plane, took an Uber to my apartment and I had a mental breakdown when I got there. I did not because I had to do I went to New York to interview and then I went back to school to finish my last couple months and I didn't have time to go like look at apartments or anything. So it was sight unseen. And it was it was not a good place to be. The week that I moved out, there was a double homicide at the front door. And several weeks before I moved out, I was walking downstairs to go to work one day and there were cops like positioned all in the building. and I was like, that's probably not good. And I came back later that day. They were still there. And I was like, can y'all tell me what's going on? They're like, no, we can't. And I'm like, well, I live directly above this apartment. I'd love to know what's going on. They're like, sorry, man, we can't do it. Should I get in the bathtub in case there's straight bullets coming through the ceiling? And it turned out to be a domestic situation where the man was holding a woman hostage, kind of. so several bad things happened around that area but I did make it out glad to hear that lived in the West Village after that so a little pretty big upgrade the first day I was an intern Erica had all the interns in like a meeting and she was like go around say where you're from and like where you're living in the city and so Jack McCarthy was like I'm living in you know wherever yeah everybody goes around they get to me I said hey I'm Connor I'm from Mount Juliet Tennessee and I'm living in Flatbush and everyone just uproarious laughter. And I was like, yeah, I kind of, I get it now. It's, uh, and so I lived there for three months. Okay. Yeah. Short-term lease, huh? Yeah. And that was the longest three months of my life. Yeah, I bet. Not fun. But, uh, but you know, it's the way it goes in the big city. That's the way it goes. Yeah. It's also like, cause I'm kind of house hunting right now too. And you're looking like kind of around here and it's like, if you want anything that looks decent in a sort of safe area 700 grand it's it's fucking crazy for a 200 000 house yeah and it's like i remember um what my parents house cost which is you know way out in the suburbs and they bought it in 1998 and like it's much bigger than any place i could have here but it's like it like they paid like 400 grand yeah and it's like you know and it's like how the fuck like you don't want to go to the suburbs uh not yet maybe in a few years gotcha so how many is a few well i've told you but i've got some life updates coming so okay you know so well i would have thought that would preempt it no i think or prompt it yeah i would say once there's a kid in the picture maybe you start to yeah you know jj tough break for your property values yeah still holding on to a little bit of hope um i think you're gonna be all right yeah but like what would they put there if they're not gonna put a stadium what do you do with i gun to my head i still think they stay in illinois and arlington makes the most sense it does make the most sense i thought it was like done deal no indiana no no it's closest it's been yeah but not that deal but there's also reports that the president kevin warren kind of went rogue on the announcements and the negotiations with hammond in indiana and so now the owner george mccaskey is furious with the president i can't picture that guy getting mad he does not swear when they had the bears hard knocks last summer two summers ago it was the first time where hbo got like edits be like you can't say the fuck word so because they're that like strict and like he's such like a nice kind of old man with a mustache like he he is like a certified ref so you know where sycamore is like way out west so he lives out in sycamore which is like farms okay and he just like in his spare time he just like refs soccer and softball and shit like that that's how he spends his time yeah um but yeah so hopefully you get that done i think you're gonna have a stadium there I'm holding out hope for you yeah I'm holding on to a little bit of hope but do you want that you want all that traffic yeah I want that bad I would have never bought there but I will say this it's a good spot I'm like 3 to 5 minutes from you name it it's right there but great spot great neighbors good neighborhood family friendly little diverse which I like which I like I like the diversity the Spanish, black, Indian culture and all that stuff. I like that. So, yeah, we'll see what happens. Good high schools. Good high school. Oh, a lot of Asian too. There's a lot of Asian. The Mitsuyama Market is in my town. Have you heard of them? Have you ever been? No, I don't know. I'm sure Blutman has been. Yeah, so Spider and I think Maresh are going on Saturday. They're taking a trip. I'm going to try to meet them over at the Mitsuyama. I might be pronouncing that wrong, but it's like an Asian grocery store, but restaurant with vendors at the same time. Huh. Awesome. Incredible. You know, they got those ramen, you know, that ramen thing, whatever. They got a bakery in there. It's a grocery store. It's great stuff. Have you been to the Gagnum grocery store? It's kind of near here. It's like off of like Milwaukee. It's probably not where Blutman goes. I'm not sure. He goes to an Asian grocery store. There's two different Asian grocery stores. One has like a big green awning. I think it's on Chicago Avenue. I've never been in that. Gagnum market was like. Yes, I've been. I've actually been with Blutman. It's insane. I've been with Blutman. That's so funny. Yeah. It's like, I can't believe that's in America. There's like a little tiny food court there, right? Yeah, I've been there. When you first walk in and there's just like neon signs and video games. Yeah, it's crazy. And it's like, this is a grocery store? Yeah, it's wild. Yeah. Great, great, great little food court there. Yeah. Food's great. You were on WUB when I talked about Seed to Table, right? Yes. Yeah. It's my favorite place in the world. I will be checking that out. Yeah, you got to check that out. The Drop by GNC. It's where you'll find all the newest creatine innovations, like new GNC Amp Creabolic. It's a first-of-its-kind formula designed to help athletes not just build muscle, but also repair and protect it in ways creatine alone can't. Get it now at GNC. Anybody watch State of the Union last night? I did not. It was on at the same time as college basketball, which was poor planning on President Trump's part. Yeah, maybe good planning. Also, longest in history. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. I think by a significant margin. How long? Hold, please. I've just seen a few clips. That's it. The clip that is going the most viral, I think, is the stand-up if you agree the U.S. government should protect American citizens over illegal immigrants. I saw that clip thanks to you. One side stood up, one did not. I find that a little bit insane, I gotta say. Some do. Yeah. I'm trying to find the... So Bill Clinton's record was an hour and 28 minutes. I'm just seeing that it's the longest. I'm not seeing how long it went. I think he went two hours. 110 minutes, so an hour 50. Yeah. Still got the stamina, man. Hour 50 is just... It's so long to talk about anything. A lot of that's applause, though. Yeah. Stand up. It's kind of like church. Stand up, sit down. Yeah. Sure. yeah um but yeah so that clip i saw i saw um ilan omar was yelling at him a bunch yeah you killed americans right yeah yeah uh the hot he brought out the hog team i heard he gave out a lot of medals he gave uh connor hellebuck the goalie for team usa the presidential medal of freedom deserved deserved but like he that guy's kind of a robot like i've never seen him smile never seen him give any sort of expression he just goes like this sitting in the stands two thumbs up no smile stone face that's how i want my goalie yeah yeah he just he stops pucks he does now yeah yeah well i mean like his his whole you we watched the game together yeah going into the game you were talking shit about connor hellebuck he fucking shits down his leg not anymore every single playoffs for the Winnipeg Jets. He's won the MVP. He's won Vezina goalie of the year many, many times. He's been the best goalie in the league for five, six years. In big spots historically, like he's been pulled like multiple times in the playoffs because he just mentally feels like just can't do it. So he had the game of his life at the right time. Love him. I'll never talk shit about him again. Love Connor Hellebuck, American Hero, Presidential Medal of Freedom, all of that he's great but yeah like i was shocked but if we're being honest without him and without like mckinnon missing one like that game could have been 5-1 like yes but none of them were like saves he should have made he made saves he shouldn't have correct he had the game of his life so the one the most viral one was his reaching back to the goal line with a stick and then he had celebrini on a breakaway he had many many david breakaway david breakaway he had many times where it's just like holy shit I can't believe this guy is doing it right now yeah I mean like McKinnon should have scored but there was nothing hell but could have done about that correct like so even the ones they should have scored would you rather as a goalie win a gold medal have one of the greatest performances of all time to the point that you're awarded the presidential medal of freedom or win a Stanley Cup I think I said this on WUB yesterday I think the answer is always Stanley Cup. I think for most players. Yeah. But for him, I mean, he had one of the greatest games in the history of hockey. For sure. For sure. But it's hard to say because you look at a guy like Jim Craig, who was the goalie for Team USA in 1980, the Miracle on Ice team, he made a whole career outside of hockey based on that game. They all have. But like him especially. Like he has like gold medal investing. Like he's done like a ton of things where then he's like still a motivational speaker. Like he does a lot of things based on that. I don't know that Hellebuck can do that because of his personality or will need to do that because he's made a shit ton of money in the NHL. But I think like winning the Stanley Cup, your name's on it forever. Like there is just, I think there's, it's just a different level. I think most hockey players would always take the Stanley Cup. I agree for most guys, but he transcended. For sure. If you're Charlie McAvoy, yeah, you'd probably rather win the Stanley Cup. Yeah, for sure Charlie McAvoy. But even Jack Hughes is a household name now in a way that he wasn't three days ago. I think I saw his Instagram went from 600K to 1.1 million. Right. And, like, he could win the Stanley Cup and not have that type of a bump. Oh, no. Of course. Not even close. Right. But I still think Jack Hughes would be like, give me the Stanley Cup. Yeah, probably. But, like, he scored the greatest goal ever. No doubt. But I do think he would still take the Cup. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Um, here's a story that I want y'all's opinion on because I was a little taken aback by this. Uh, JJ, have you seen, there was an engineer who had a Romo brand robot vacuum. It's like a Roomba. Okay. And he wanted to somehow like get into the coding of the system to where he could control it with his PlayStation controller Hmm So he figured out how to do that And he needed he used an AI coding assistant Claude Code, to reverse engineer how the home robot vacuum communicated with DJI's remote cloud servers. But then he also needed, he found, he needed like a backend code or something to go in and finish it. And so he did that. And when he got into the servers of this company, he actually ended up with access to 7,000 of their vacuums, which have cameras and microphones in them for some reason. That's scary. So he got access to 7,000 people's house. Yeah. He could control their vacuum. He could see in their house. He could hear them. That's wild. And I mean, thankfully, this guy, I think The Verge is who he called. and was like, hey, this just happened. But like, just to deal with the microphone. I don't know. Yeah. Why weird that camera? I get because the robot needs to. But I mean, they put a mic and everything that my my TV remote has a mic in it. But that even makes sense because you can do voice commands to your. But I mean, talk about wholly unnecessary. Dude, I love when I'm on. I got rid of Comcast. but back in the day we had that voice remote i'd just be like put on the blackhawks yeah and like there is something just kind of nice about that i just i don't do voice i don't know why it's so quick it is on anything really like i don't uh or even cycling through your apps i that's one of these things about all the streaming things without cable like i miss cable but it's just like put on amazon prime put on paramount put on hbo max where it's like you used to be able to just do that with your comcast now i gotta like go back to the home screen cycle through load it up i mean mine you could do that you can do a voice command up well it's an amazon tv so it has alexa in it yeah okay which i hate i don't trust alexa i mean no of course not yeah that's the other thing and i hadn't even considered that when i usually make this point but when people were like oh it's so difficult to find what anything's on these days it's really not and i had never even considered just doing voice yeah yeah oh the the nfl game it's usually on cbs but now it's on netflix okay go click netflix you know yeah but it's like you haven't had a situation where you're looking for a game you're cycling through and you're going like i've had times never once where i'm going i've opened seven different apps i'm like where the where is this maybe it's a superpower of mine I know where every game is. Mazel tov. Yeah. And maybe that's just me. Maybe the more casual viewer doesn't know that. I know where every game's at. Well, and it's like I am like I know the things that I watch a lot. Like if I'm watching hockey, I generally know where those are. But they will do like the Blackhawks are on some special thing. But every once in a while they're on ESPN Plus. And, you know, so it's like you're like you don't necessarily know. So you're like, wait, where is this game? and I just cannot seem to find it sometimes. The Blackhawks are especially bad, but I'm a very casual college basketball fan. But like this time of year when there's not a lot on and the tournament's coming up and I'll want to watch a game, and I assume everything's just on ESPN Plus. A lot of times it's not. Sometimes things, and then it's like, now you get the peacock situation where it's like, I used to have peacock exclusively for soccer on Saturday mornings. Now if I like happen to care about the NBA for five minutes, it might be on there. So I would rather it just be how it used to be. Which is what? There'd be six channels and you can only watch? I'm not talking 1992. I'm talking like 2016. 2016 is kind of when everything went insane. We might have gone just too far in 2016. And it seems like so recent, but it was 10 years ago. Yeah, I know. I remember 2016 very well. Yeah, so do I. I mean, I was fucking 30. Yeah. So. I don't remember nothing from 2016. No? Were you? No, no. I was doing good. Oh, okay. Good. You don't remember anything. Because you're a guy I can never pin down their age. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you've lived a lot of life. Yeah. And now, like. I still feel young, though. I'm not saying you're not young. You are young. You present older. Really? Yeah. You could tell me you are anywhere from 25 to 40, and I would believe it. Really? Yeah. Some of that is like you got the kid. Yeah, for sure. Two. Two now, yeah. Yeah, two. Congrats. Maybe a third. I don't know. Oh. Maybe a fourth. Oh, JJ. I would stop. We got twins coming? No, no, maybe. We'll see what happens. If you're watching football this weekend, you know how it goes. Somebody's always hungry by the first quarter. So call Pizza Hut and get the Big New Yorker for just $10. Our biggest pizza for the biggest games. These slices are huge. Like, use two hands and fold it huge. Feed your crew and order ahead at PizzaHut.com or in the app. Brought to you by Pizza Hut. The only other thing I had in the news was, did you see this CIA declassified vaccine business? So apparently this was declassified in the 80s. But then it got re-put out there or something? I think people are into, like, declassified docs are hot in the street right now. Maybe just someone found it. Yeah. And it's like, wait, what the fuck is this? Yeah. So it's recycled. You want to explain the whole? Yeah. So this is from, I believe, 1951 to 56 Project Artichoke, which was the precursor to MKUltra. Yeah. A lot of the same ideas in there. And there's a document. It's seven pages. It's titled Special Research for Artichoke. And the CIA is basically outlining how they could drug the population. Wow. And they're like, yeah, we could put it in Coca-Cola. We could do the water supply, whatever, vaccines, basically anything. Yeah. And they're like, we can just put whatever we want in there. Of course. And so obviously people latched on to the vaccines being part of that. But it could have been in the water towers too. Like you just don't know. Anything. Anything. And that's like this whole thing about, I feel like I might've talked about it on this show one time, but I read this book a couple years ago called The Devil's Chessboard. It's all about Alan Dulles and his brother and the founding of the CIA which goes back to like OSS and like World War II and then really came as an official organization under Eisenhower like around that time in 53. And they get into the chapter about MKUltra and he was like obsessed with doing like mind control stuff. The MK is mind control. And so he wanted to get funding for this project. So he had to give a presentation. But if you go into something like this and it's like, yeah, we're going to do mind control and remote viewing and all this shit. People are like, you're fucking insane. So what he did was created fake documents being like, the Russians are doing this. And they're like, oh, the Russians are doing this. We got to catch up. How much money do you need? So like that was kind of like the like his strategy. He would just use the Cold War and the Soviets as a means to get whatever he wanted. And that was like the genesis of that. And so this art, you know, project artichoke was probably like a lower budget version of what ultimately became MKUltra when he convinced everyone to just let him do whatever the fuck he wanted. I got snapped on by a doctor once For what? I guess four years ago There's a hepatitis shot They try to give the infants, the newborns Right away Oh, this is And, you know, I didn't know obviously much about vaccines And whatnot And I was just asking a question like Hey, what is this vaccine? What does it prevent? And it's like I think hepatitis B is it? Is it B? It's either B or C And it's like, you know, like unprotected sex, that stuff And it's like they're newborns. Why do they need this right now? And she's like, well, can I ask you something? And I was like, yeah, sure. She's like, what's your level of education? I was like, oh, I went to high school, graduated high school. She's like, yeah, you should probably do some research. And it's like, well, I'm asking you because you're the doctor. It's like they get so defensive if you ask. And then God forbid you say, maybe in a couple months, not right now, it's like the world is ending. Well, the other part of that, so the only way you can get that is through, and it's on the schedule. So it's like theoretically mandatory that your child get that. So I can't remember if it's B or C either. But it is the only way you can get it is through unprotected sex and intravenous drugs. Something that you would hope that your newborn not really exposed to. Right. And then and they do test the mother. Yeah. Beforehand because you can get it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They did all that. Correct. Everything was good. So she's clear. so there's no risk of that how's that happening how about this the effects of that vaccine only last 10 years so by the time like it in theory it could protect you against those diseases when you're in high school age and you know starting to get into some nefarious activities yeah it's already gone see i didn't know that it's yeah thing wow yeah so it's like you you kind of just have to like in theory just get it again so it but it's like once that once those things are on the schedule that's a billion dollar business yeah it's crazy so totally unnecessary totally are doctors getting kickbacks from that i that i don't know i don't know but it's but you see this all the time where it's like there's different ways like it doesn't have to be it's a carrot in the stick where it's like sure you could be incentivized and you could make money but also if you start saying things that are outside the norm then you could have like your license you I don't think they're allowed to do this anymore. I think I've told this story before. But the greatest days of my life were, my mom's a nurse, so when I was a kid in the summer, sometimes she would take me to the doctor's office with her, and the doctors would pay me to unwrap Band-Aids. So I'd just sit in the back room all day and unwrap Band-Aids and they'd give me five bucks. But the drug reps would bring in these unbelievable lunches. Just the greatest spread you've ever seen. And they were all just absolute rockets. Just unbelievable. A little big tea bricked up. And it was awesome. It was the best days ever. And I think they made it illegal now where you can't do that. Can't bring in. I think like the gift amount that drug reps can give you, I think is. The T&E. yeah yeah tna is still fine tne yeah i don't uh i'll have to look into that but i believe you can't do it anymore yeah but they would bring in just i mean steak and lobster it knew yeah it was well there's that uh movie with gyllenhaal and um i'm so bad with celebrity names ann hathaway is that that's love and other drugs yes and they kind of that's yeah it is a pretty good movie but they show like how like he has a counterpart at Pfizer that he's trying to hit on who is the hottest girl you've ever seen and then obviously like he's very handsome and charming and it's just like that's like kind of the industry where it's just like let's just have hot people yeah go in like shower doctors with gifts until they use like their company's drugs as their standard prescription for depression or whatever else. All business. Didn't RFK do something with the vaccine for newborns? He removed some things from the schedule. Yeah, right? Yeah. I think he did. Because of the Physician Payment Sunshine Act, which I'm not seeing. Why do they always have to name things like this? When it was passed. Companies must report every meal, every consulting payment, speaking fees, travel reimbursement. uh the data's public patients journalists and regulators can look it up uh that was in 2010 i think that that that's specifically to the pharmaceutical industry i think so it looks like it was part of obamacare okay when it passed that should be a thing like across the board agreed where it's you see all these people they just recycle out of these different you know like and it's with the military it's with every certain every type of industry related to the government where they get out and it's like oh well now you're on the board of northrop grutman or you know all these big raytheon and then you go and you do a speaking fee at a college and it's just like this own like cottage industry where it's like as long as you play ball you're fucking set for life yeah you just go from one consulting firm to another yeah making 400 grand a year to just give people's phone numbers out and like have you ever seen what uh people make for being on the board of these big companies oh i mean it's astronomical it's like you go to four meetings a year and they pay a quarter million dollars yeah i gotta get a gig like that somebody i i would be a good board member what's a what's a company you think you'd be great on the board of well my previous experience was in packaging so maybe maybe like yeah we know maybe like yeah i know this show knows maybe like ball which also had like defense contracts at one time really yeah they were spun off doing what because they have all sorts of like aluminum and um but it's like a 15 billion dollar i'm sure um mason jars mason jars canning um ball defense contractor ball and and arrow that's who makes them yeah yeah nice ball and aerospace uh um technology is that one of those companies like yamaha that makes motorcycles and pianos and just whatever whatever yeah well it's like yeah i think it's any i think it's they can develop different sorts of like metals for airplanes and stuff and spacecraft or whatever and um so they had like a wing like their big business was like the jars and the cans and whatever else but it's like a 15 billion dollar company and if i could just be on the board there guys brother yeah i'll be i'll be quiet i'll be loud i'll do whatever you say just four times a year you get a quarter million dollars you don't even need a vote i'll vote how they tell me to vote i think i hacked the uh the fruit game a little bit how's that with the with the ball mason jars okay i was watching a lady on tiktok and uh you know if you go to your grocery store sometimes you let's say you buy a basket or whatever of strawberries you put them in the fridge you know you might see the next like two three days some of them start to go bad you know they all go bad yeah then they all go bad if you put them in a in a ball mason jar i'm i kid you not two weeks a little water in there too a little water yeah a little water in there two weeks it's pretty crazy it is crazy you know you seal those things up yeah how many mason jars do you need though for strawberries for i have i have the blueberries i have the raspberries i have the strawberries and then sometimes i put um my uh my onion my my like yeah not the green onion whatever Well, it'll continue to grow. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah. In the mason jar. And then, you know. But you can fit a whole carton of strawberries in one mason jar? The big one. I have ones that are like this big. They're huge. I've never, like my parents, I'm sure, had them. I've never bought a mason jar. I'm not up to date on the sizes they got. Versatile, too. You can put a little iced tea in there, too. Oh, all of my glassware at home, I got nothing but mason jars. I have like wine glasses and stuff. But like if I'm having a glass of water, it's out of a mason jar. Are you a sports cup collector? No. hmm yeah you're not no i'm alone here okay yeah i've got what do you got like daytona 500 1998 buddy i've got everything i have every stadium i've ever been to yeah i've do you but do you like buy like vintage ones or um very rarely it's mostly just just games i've been to this is like a modern version of keeping your ticket stub yes which i used to do i had a book of tickets and now you can't do it anymore. Yeah. I actually, I have one over here. It's buried back there somewhere. But the University of Tennessee now, if you want a ticket stub, you can buy one for $20. Wow. That has, I mean, it looks cool. It has like a player on it and on the back, it gives you the stats from the game and everything. Yeah. So like fine. But back in my day, that's what you had to have to get into the game. Yeah. My dad was a season ticket holder for the Blackhawks from like, 2006 like that year right after the lockout until 2017 so that was like their run right they're in the playoffs basically every year they went to the Stanley Cup finals three times and you would get the big book would come uh from like UPS and then you would get like the playoff book in April and there was just something about that smell and like rifling through like a big booklet of tickets you're like this is fucking awesome now it's just on your phone and deleted we never had season we had season tickets one year my mom bought a new car and when you bought the car they gave you falcon season tickets for that year oh nice so so the just giving away tickets i mean if you buy a 25 000 car that's that those cost what 800 bucks i don't know yeah i guess i don't know what a falcons they were like upper level yeah like but that you know falcon season tickets and so they came to our house and opening that package was the best day of my life oh it's awesome yeah it was great it's like fever pitch yes yeah when he one of my favorite movies oh i'm not a big fan of that movie i don't what i don't i don't like we're a pro fever i don't like jimmy fallon yeah i knew you were gonna say okay so i don't i'm the biggest jimmy fallon yeah are you by the way she is has he been in a movie since then but i understand taxi i don't know if that was before or after okay fever pitch was he was in almost famous oh yeah that is one of my favorite he's like the the suit the management comes in late in the movie. Yeah. That's one of my all-time, all-time favorite movies. It seems that... No, I think that was like the most of his last career. Yeah. I don't love him now either, but he's good in that movie. In Fever Bitch? Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I thought as a baseball guy, you would appreciate it. I would say... They had to change the ending because the Red Sox won the World Series. How amazing is that? Yeah, and he and Drew Barrymore run on the field, right? They used the Fox cameras from the World Series to have them on the field for the end of that movie. Yeah. I mean, if you love me enough to give away your tickets, I love you enough to not let you. Yes. Great. All-time line. Great line. Yeah, I don't know. If I were going to rank my top five baseball movies, I don't think it's in it. Oh, wow. Disgusting. Well, Moneyball's one, obviously. Moneyball. I would have a League of Their Own in there. Bull Durham Major League I haven't seen any of those Trouble with the Curve I've actually I love Trouble So Trouble with the Curve That's Timberlake and Clint Eastwood So Trouble with the Curve Do y'all like Trouble with the Curve or Fever Pitch more? I agree because I think Trouble with the Curve is like It's kind of stinky in a way that people would say Fever Pitch is Like the storyline is kind of dumb but it's I like it yeah it's so I love one of those types of movies where the daughter is into the sport the sport because the dad and she and then Justin Timberlake is like oh what do you know about ball and then she literally could everything her ball knowledge and it's one of those movies where the the villain in the movie is a scout for the Atlanta Braves who's the guy who played the movie's about the Braves which is cool but it's uh the guy who played Shaggy in like the live action scooby-doo yeah i think and that takes me completely out of it every time i see it now if you were dating and you you know let's say you got a hinge date and you find out that this guy is like a real life version of the jimmy fallon character in that what would your reaction be what do you mean when you say that well if he was a red sox fan i would never know but just for whatever he could be a fan of your favorite team but he is like it but he's jimmy felon and fever pitch level yes uh that'd be tough what does that entail he's he has his whole apartment is looking like fenway he has season tickets he has to go to every game i would love going to the games every single game yes okay if i could baseball though 81 games 81 games like you don't you can't do anything else that's your that's your spring summer fall yeah that's your whole life um it would be hard because i do feel like i mean in the movie we we see this unfold it becomes which do you care about more the red sox or drew barry more i would like to hope that my boyfriend who eventually would be to be clear This is during the greatest season in the history of sports Yeah And they won a World Series for the first time in nearly a century But he was obsessed with them all before. It's not like they just happened to have the movie. Yeah. And I love baseball. I love the Cubs. Right. I love baseball. Yeah. I live a 10-minute walk from Wrigley Field. I go a lot. I'll just be like, the weather's nice. I'm going to walk over for the night game and have a hot dog and a couple of beers and go home. That's still a completely different reality than what Fever Pitch Jimmy Fallon is. Correct. And I feel like 15 games a year, which is about what I do. I think my record is 18 games. I feel like that's a lot. I feel like that's a lot of baseball games. It is. Yeah. So I can't imagine doing 81. 81 is crazy. I also feel like if if I remember correctly in this movie then it becomes Drew Barrymore had like at a family event or something and he was oh he's at the dinner meeting meeting the family and he's like la la la la la la like he's making sure that he doesn't find out the score much like can't do it around other people yeah keep your psychosis to yourself we all do that yeah We may need to actually do this for a video. I think if you sat me down in front of that movie and paused it and said, do the next minute of dialogue. You could do it. I would do it with like 95% accuracy. You've seen it that many times? Wow. Or is it predictable? No, I've seen that movie 50 times. Wow. That's a lot of times. Yeah. that i think 50 would be my personal record for any movie it might be the movie i've seen the most really i love it it's it's one of my favorite it's one of my favorites okay and it's it's it's are you are you uh on a dozen team right now yes that should be your niche it could be yeah it really could be like uh i mean i know i know every pull up see if you can pull up just a scene from fever pitch and we'll play it and I'll tell you what the next line is. Damn. And try to make it not, you know, don't do if you love me enough to sell your tickets I love you enough not to let you do. Red Sox never let you down. They're here. At 105 or at 705 there is a game. You think that's a little bit dancing? And if it gets rained out, guess what? They make it up to you. Does anybody else in your life do that? That's devil rain dancing. Johnny Damon. I don't want to say the next line. I know. Should we do this one? That's another problem I have. 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He goes with his friends every year and she invited him to come meet her parents. But he was like, oh, sorry. I go with my buddies to spring training every year. To which she says like, oh, they let you train with the players. He's like, well, no, we just watch the games. Okay. So you play this scene. and the dad has just dyed his hair jet black. I'll just take it. Okay, so he's about to say like- I was gonna say, we have to have like five seconds. He says like, when are we gonna meet this future breakup? She says, oh, thanks dad, very encouraging. He says, well, I figured you would have brought him with you. She says, well, I was going to, but he has this thing and he goes with his friends every year to which point the camera turns to the television and Jimmy Fallon and his friends are on TV going crazy on SportsCenter. where would you rank the red socks in your life jimmy fallon says red socks sex breathing so you get the point yeah we could do i i may need to do that for the i don't know if we can get away with that with copyright but uh i i could do that for the whole movie that's insane that'd be that'd be a really cool video to put out yeah yeah i think it'd be fun and i can't believe i've never thought to do that as a niche on the dozen you should do like an alternate one just about the falls we'll see that i did i've done a couple tennessee ones and i just i get so nervous that he's gonna do something so crazy like niche yeah that i won't and then because you can't get that wrong yeah yeah i did tennessee basketball once um no i mean like do a screenplay version of this with you with the balls oh oh remake the movie yeah like do a skit in the green green screen room. 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Romantic comedy. romantic comedy okay gotcha you've never i'm not a big movie guy really no just like if i do watch movie it's like like a war movie okay that's about it as far as i go i watched the same 20 or so movies i've i've currently in my my vols group chat which is mostly guys in their 30s and 40s they're very upset with me that i haven't seen a lot of their favorite movies from the 80s and 90s Okay. And I just don't really want to watch them. I have a hard time. I haven't been to the movies in a couple years, and then it's like the Oscars come around, and it's like you see all these movies. I'm like, I haven't seen any of these. But usually those aren't even movies that you would have seen anyway. I watched one battle after another on the plane on the way to California for the Super Bowl, and I thought it was fine. but it's like you know like i feel like i haven't been excited to go see something since like oppenheimer yeah and even i saw oppenheimer and i was i was excited to see it and i was oh that was fine i had a miserable experience seeing that in the theater really have you guys ever been to um music box theater it's up on south where it's near wrigley's near me no it was near the old office i've seen it uh yeah like you could walk it'd be a little bit of a hike but you could walk there from the old office but it's uh it's over 100 years old it has like a ton of charm they do things like like in the winter they'll do like it's a wonderful life and um what's a white christmas they'll do like a double feature and they'll bring in like carolers great little date night in the holiday season but i went to see it i went to see oppenheimer there and they were doing it on some special film or something 30 i don't know i don't know enough about movies but and they had like a scientist guy speaking after to like answer questions about the whole project and i was like this is sick like i'm gonna go and and the theater was like it was in the summer i'd never been in the summer hot as balls like and then your seats were like because it's so old like small and uncomfortable so i'm just sitting on my balls like sweaty uncomfortable backs locking up it was miserable i couldn't get out of there fast enough so i'm Like, that movie absolutely sucked. And then I watch it on, like, Amazon Prime. Like, that was pretty good. Yeah. All right. So, but that was the last time I was excited to see a movie. It was Oppenheimer. That was what, 23? 23? 23, 22, 23, something like that. Jeff D. Lowe put me on the, you could actually order from the movie theater the popcorn to your house. Really? He would do that. In New York, we would go into the office every college football Saturday. and Jeff Lowe would stop by the movie theater because he had the unlimited pass. Yeah. He would get a popcorn and come to the office. Yeah. And then we would also have, he loves these, what are they called? It's like a shitty, it's a graham cracker, marshmallow, chocolate, which I guess I'm describing a s'more. You sure are. But it's like a pre-packaged thing and it's, what are they called? I'm going to have to call him. Like marshmallows? Malomars. Malomars. Do y'all know what I'm talking about? I feel like I've heard of it. I don't think I've ever heard of it. I believe it is yellow packaging. Yes. Yeah, so Jeff would bring malomars and we'd eat those all day. And just watch college. Oh, wait, I like those. You know, yeah, they're good. But it's like a, it's not, it wouldn't be my first choice. It's a grandma. Yes. Grandma house that just spawns like nobody's ever bought them. She bought them in 1988. They just appear like those strawberry cans. You could have that or Andy's candies, a little mint chocolate thing. Now, I love the Andy's mints. I like those as well. But I associate that with old people. I just ran out of my Christmas stash. It's going to be a long 10 months. Yeah. Yeah. Might need to get some for Easter, I guess. Okay, there you go. But, yeah, so Fever Pitch, great film. Do y'all want to talk about Mexican drug cartels? Kind of a hard pivot. Yeah, big time. But, you know, big time pivot. Yeah. That's what we do here. Honestly, I got a little nervous yesterday when Eric texted me. Hey, Jerry, we're doing a cartel talk. I'm, you know, macrodosing. I won't be in. Can you join? My gut reaction was, I'm nervous. Why is that? You don't want to piss him off? I don't want to piss him off. That's the thing. Yeah, I don't want to. I'll piss him off. I don't care. Come get me. No, don't say that. Don't say that. They're in Mexico, dude. What are they going to do? They got tentacles everywhere. They are here too. What do you mean? Yeah. I mean, they're in Texas and Arizona and stuff. You don't think they're in Chicago? I guarantee you there's a cartel in Chicago right now. That's connected to the Mexican. 100% Big T. Come on. What are they going to do? They consolidate. They're going to murder you. What do you mean? What are they going to do? What murder? What are you talking about? These guys got guns. He's the best guy around. But that, like, we've done, obviously, we've been doing. We do too. That's no problem. We do too. That's no problem. Fair. We do too. But we've talked about cartels on Dog Walk before and our shorts on the different cartels. We have one that has 9.2 million views. Another one has 6.7 million. And it's all just like, I don't know why, but it's just like for whatever reasons, those hit the algorithm. So I think don't be afraid. This is going to be good. Yeah. Well, because they watch and they send their boys. That's why. That's why those views are up. They got 9.2 million boys out there. Yeah. So obviously we just had the big hit on El Mencho, who was the leader of the Jalisco New Generation cartel. Does that just mean the Mench? Like, this guy's a Mench. It's like the Jewish word for a guy. What does El Mencho mean? Just says the alias of Nemesio Asaguera Cervantes, the former leader. It doesn't say what it means. What was the deal with that guy? Did he get like... Oh, it's a short and colloquial version of Nemesio, which is his... What's his first name? What happened? Something to do with, like, another woman or something like that? Yeah, his lover led the police to him. They, like, tracked her. And he was living in some cabin in the woods or something. And they followed her and got there and took him out. Yeah. They waited for her to leave. These cartels, like, I looked a little bit into... But these people are like unimaginably evil. Yeah. Like they do stuff that I've never heard of. This guy had like crematoriums on his complex and they were just like, yeah, we found this big crematorium in like hundreds of pairs of shoes. So they just kill you and then burn you up and then throw the shoes in the dumpster. Yeah. And they've got rocket launchers. They've got everything. A lot of American weapons. Yeah, I think it said 80% of the guns they've found there since 2020 or something are all American. How are they getting it? I kind of assume, I would have guessed that. See, I don't know. I feel like you would assume that they're black market weaponry. That you would just get like the War Dogs thing. Where it's like, oh, they got a shipment from fucking Albania. Where they're getting all their rounds and their actual guns. But aren't most guns American? i mean i guess it like like glock is technically what austrian or whatever but yeah like barrettas are italian uh like ak's are obviously russian and they make them in china but i would assume all of the guns in mexico came from america uzis are israeli i think originally so i think there's a lot of people making weapons of war out there i just i would have assumed but then that but to your point how they getting them yeah and it's like are we giving it to them I wouldn't be surprised. It's happened many, like the whole Iran. The government, you think? Yes, CIA. That's like Iran-Contra is like drugs and weapons tradings. Yeah, but we don't like these guys, though. What was the thing that happened under Obama? I think money. Yes, I know what you're talking about. It was called. It had like a flashy name. It had a name. Obama Weapons Mexico. ATF gun walking scandal it had a name though fast and furious yes who were we given the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms set to destroy firearms associated with the Obama era fast and furious scandal sparking a rebuke from top Republicans of the House Judiciary Committee yeah who were we giving them to it would appear the cartels Gun walking was a tactic used by Arizona U.S. Attorney's Office and the Arizona Field Office of the ATF, which ran a series of sting operations between 2006 and 2011 in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF, quote, purposefully allowed licensed firearm dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them. okay so we let people sell them to the cartel hoping to track them and then i guess we just didn't follow up you know what might have been a better version of that just don't do that just don't just don't sell them make them go get it somewhere else and then they maybe realize like oh wow there's a lot of money in this and then just continue to do it that's like the old uh the ice cube line where they're he was given like a press conference and someone was talking to him about how LA was so violent and the drugs and all that. And he's like, well, the drugs come from Colombia and the weapons come from Russia and I don't have a passport. So you fucking explain how they all end up in the neighborhood. So it's like somebody, you know, like there is just like a black market to get people what they want. And it's like at some point, the government has to at least be complicit or look the other way on that. that does make a modicum of sense though at least what they were trying to do if it was done properly which it obviously was not but it's like what's the point how are you tracking the guns you're better off just not letting them get them because if you're tracking the guns I guess the thinking is they're going to get them regardless so we might as well make some money off of it and try to well I think the thinking was like how many people how many people are you allowing to get murdered yeah because you're trying to track them to bust them later you know like that's fucking insane to me i just i think make them get them from russia getting murdered anyway make them get it yeah but make them but that that to me is not enough of an excuse or enough of a reason these people are gonna die anyways they might as well die at the american-made guns fair um yeah so we took out el mincho oh the other thing i would there i saw a video you've seen everything coming out of puerto vallarta yeah and there was a a swat truck with probably a dozen guys in it who were dressed to the hilt yeah and you would have thought these were navy seals yeah and they just work for the cartel like what do you think well i saw the one where they lit the gas station on fire they come out and they have like semi-automatic rifles bulletproof vests like the helmet the whole thing you think it's the military and then they just take the gas away from a guy who's just casually pumping his gas throw it all over you spray it all over the ground light it on fire boom the gas station goes up so but that was those were the cartels and it was the mexican army that actually killed the mexican government that killed el mencho too yeah so it It was like the first time. Oh, this guy's dead elementary. Yeah, they got him. Yeah, that's why everything's popping off in Mexico right now. Gotcha. Because they just took him out. And he was like their fearless leader. He was the leader of one of the two. The Sinaloa cartel is the other one. I think they're probably the more famous one. Well, because that was El Chapo. Right. In the article that you sent, or one of the articles, they were like, El Chapo loved being El Chapo. He loved a sweet nickname. People knew who he was. He was kind of like a name everyone would just talk about. and this guy was just like i'm gonna have all that what without the publicity yeah like so he was this guy seems like kind of the the thinking that the real stuff going on you'll never know about yeah el chapo obviously was doing a bunch of terrible shit but if you know who el chapo is this guy nobody knew he lurked in the shadows and he was doing the real stuff but el chapo he was like the kingpin and like they did the thing where i can't remember where it was it's probably in mexico but he got arrested somehow like his cartel like tunneled underneath the jail stashed a dirt bike so then he he like escaped from jail on a dirt bike that was buried underground it's like fucking they had a camera in his cell he just drops right out of the floor i gotta look at that video wow that's sick and then it would make for a great movie now is he in new york oh no he's in uh he might be in 11 he's in like the supermax prison i thought we killed him too No, he's not dead. El Chapo is in ADX. Florence. Florence, Colorado. We did an episode on that. Yeah. That's the big boy jail. Right. I'd kind of love to go. To go. I think that's the place where it's like 23 hours a day of solitary confinement. Yeah. Yeah. And you can't go outside. Right. The window is like this big. Yay big, yeah. Like thin. Wow. Has anyone ever been to a jail? I've been to a jail. Like? As a visiting or? No, as a. A tour? Oh, you were taken. Taken. I was taken to jail. Yeah. Well, then your experience was probably clouded. I mean, it's not a good place. Yeah. I'd just like to go tour one for an hour. I went to Alcatraz. Yeah. That would be a cool tour. It was cool. So they give you like little headphones and you just walk around. It's like an audio book as you're walking through. Like, oh, this is where Capone was. This is where the Great Escape was. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it was cool. Did it seem extra bad? It seemed like a place I wouldn't want to spend much time. Well, sure. But it was supposed to be. I think the thing about Alcatraz was that it was famous because Capone was there. Like, high-profile criminals were there. It was an island off of San Francisco with, like, supposedly, like, you can escape. because the currents are so intense. The water is so cold. They have sharks in those waters. So it's like if you can get out of your cell and get into the ocean, you're dead most likely. Except for the three guys who did Except for the three guys Who definitely did Yeah they made a movie about it We did an episode on that Yeah They tunneled out with like spoons or something right Isn't that the story? Oh, really? I think so. Andy Dufresne? Does he do it with a spoon? He got the little, the pickaxe. The little pickaxe, yeah. Yeah. Which I think is a better tool than a spoon. Sure. You've seen that movie, Jerry? Yeah, great movie. Yeah. Great movie. Yeah. Morgan Freeman, right? Yep. You ever been, no jail for you? no jail never arrested handcuffed anything do you know who you're talking to i'm just wondering no okay i mean i've been handcuffed really yeah for what uh i was a freshman in college and a fight broke out and i was involved in the fight and they they cuffed you cuffed me but didn't take you anywhere no you were detained i was detained in an effort to keep the peace so that was that no never never been to a jail um el chapo has though yeah so he's in jail el mincho is dead those are the two uh major cartel operations in mexico and now the they are setting up road blockades they're lighting such shit on fire did you see the clip where like because the cartels just kind of run everything in mexico where one of their roadblocks they had like an excavator you know like the big thing with the shovel on the end the big yellow like um not john deer but like cat machine and they're just digging up a big like a highway so they got like a trench in the middle of the highway that's like eight feet deep that the cartels are just like no one's leaving wow yeah what about people who go for vacation i had a buddy who was just there got out like two days before what i had always heard was the the resorts you'll never have a problem because they're run by the cartels yeah and they so they want to make sure everything runs smooth because that's how they make money wow yeah so they were like don't worry about it like the cartels are have deals with the resorts that they make sure everything is you're good yeah yeah Yeah. Now I'm looking at this being like, man, this time next year, rate's probably real cheap for a great experience. Imagine what you can get right now. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. Let me book something right now for next year. I went to one in Mexico. I mean, beautiful. Mexico's great. It was Cancun, so the other side. Yeah. I've been to Puerto Vallarta. It was probably 25 years ago, but it was gorgeous. That was the place where they were staying at a resort and they had these guys on the beach with a boat. And you would go, what's the thing with the parachute, paragliding, parasailing? Parasailing. Parasailing. And so I was, my family and I, we were next in line to go. The guy in front of us, the cable snapped on the parachute while he was in the air. He just sailed all the way into town and crashed into a tree. Really? Yeah, and they're like, oh, we got another rope. We're like, we're good. After seeing that, I think we're just going to go back to the pool. So he didn't fall into the ocean. No, because he was way up there, and so he just caught the air current or whatever, and he just did not fall. He drifted like four miles into town. Yeah, I never. We saw him later that night. He was all like scraped up from hitting a palm tree or something. That's insane. Yeah. I've never, I did like a, I've done jet ski. I don't do the water. Yeah. I'm not a water guy. I like the water. I get like, I can't, I think we talked about this. Like I can't do, I get bored at the beach. These flights are cheap. Yeah, how much? 200. To Puerto Vallarta? I mean, 200, you name it in Mexico, everything's 200 right now. Cancun? Playa del Carmen, 200. Because see if you can go to Cancun right now. Quercio Vallarta? Yeah, Vallarta. Two L's. Two on it. Love that. Round trip. On what airline? You're not looking at Spirit. I don't know. I mean, it just popped up on Google. I don't know what airline it is. Man, this is nothing. Damn. Maybe it is Spirit. It could be Spirit. It's probably the cheapest one. I'm seeing 560. What about this? $60 a night. Where? Puerto Vallarta. What hotel? Hotel Hacienda del Vallarta. Jerry, I don't know. Centro. Sounds nice. Sounds exotic. We'd have to get on this like today, but it could kind of be. Look at this. $60 a night for that. Gorgeous. It could be a pretty funny video if you and I went to Puerto Vallarta right now and we just checked into a resort. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think. Old boys trip? What are you doing Saturday? I have to go to a wedding this weekend, actually. But next week, maybe we go Friday, Saturday. I think it could be fun. Yeah, just having a couple of nice lunches and dinners together, hang out, make a couple social videos, and just head back. Yeah. It's not going to cost us nothing. No. No. Expensive. Still charge it to Dave and be like, we're doing you a favor. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is best content. We could make money from this. We can tell the hotel or wherever we're staying, we're going to push having the Americans come here now. Yeah. See how beautiful and peaceful it is. Yeah. And then maybe they'd be like, hey, here's 20K. And maybe we could, you think we could hook it up like an interview with one of the cartel guys? Be like, listen, we're, we're, we come at peace. I'm out on that. No, the, the, if you guys did a video where it's like the black, like the face is pixelated out, they change the voice and you're just sitting across from them. That would be so funny. That would be pretty crazy. Yeah. I think they would agree. Would you, would you think? I don't know. We'd have to find out. We'd have to find a guy that's connected. That's not part of the cartel but knows people in the cartel to be like, hey, look at all these followers on Barstool Sports across all platforms. We'll block out the face. We'll change the voice. Let's do a one-on-one interview. I think you get there and you just go to the concierge because ultimately, whoever is managing that hotel, they're in the cartel. So I don't think it would be that hard. Okay, yeah. I think it could do numbers. We should make a call right now to say, hey, we're with this company, Barso Sports. We have millions and millions of followers. We want to take a vacation to your hotel, but we want to get set up with a one-on-one interview with somebody from the cartel. And we want it to be a five-star resort. Yeah, and we want a five-star resort. Well, obviously. You think they would be like, yeah, no problem. We'll get you a cartel member? I mean, you want to find out? What's the best resort? I don't know. Best resort Puerta Vallarta It auto filled for me You want to call them? Yeah why not See what they say Alright here's the phone number you ready? Yep Puerta Vallarta Oh this was beautiful Hey uh No habla espanol Uh Okay thank you sir appreciate that Hey, my name is Ricky with Barstool Sports. You guys are on a prerecorded line. We have millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of followers across all social media. We're a massive, massive company. We're a content creation company, a media company. We're interested in staying at your place of business. We love what we see online. Willing to pay for the stay, obviously. We want to film a little content around your facility. At the same time, we're also doing a documentary about the Mexican cartel. And, you know, we were interested in coming, staying, you know, spending a good amount of money down there and possibly having the opportunity to interview a cartel member. Doesn't have to be on site. You know, one-on-one, we'll block out the face. we'll block out, you know, change the voice. Is it possible if we do head down there that we'll have some resources to get in touch with somebody? Just give me one second. Okay. I mean, this guy might be bought in. The fact that he didn't immediately say no. Yeah. I don't like that you volunteered paying for it, though. Well, that's how you get that. We might have. That's how you get it. I mean, Jerry might have us becoming cartel people. Like, they're not so bad. They're misunderstood. What do you think he's telling? I think he's going to the cartel, right? Say that again, sir? Oh, you broke up a little bit. Yes, your name. My name is Ricky with Barstool Sports. Ricky, Ricky. Yes, Ricky, sir. Yeah. I think we're going to be speaking to the cartel very shortly. Yeah, seriously. This hotel is beautiful. I can't believe this guy's actually going to someone. He's probably two minutes away. He's probably staying at the honeymoon suite there. I think we're going to get a no. What happens if he says yes? We book. We just book it. Hello, how you doing today? Fine, thank you. Just give me one second, please. Okay. Yeah, tell her she's recorded too. She's the, yeah. This is too real. She's the under boss. I want out. I want out. No, we already got up a level. Can I give you an email address? My co-workers right now are in a meeting. Okay. And can you go send the information, okay? Okay. Are you ready? Okay. I'll, yeah, it's okay. I'm going to call back. What's a better time to call back? I don't know exactly right now. In this situation, they have a lot of meetings right now. Can I keep the email address so you can send the information? Yeah, we'll take the email. Yeah, by the way, I forgot. I told the previous person I spoke to, just, you know, you're live to tape right now on a recorded line. Okay, thank you. Okay. Please, let me give it to the name of the person that I'm going to give you right now. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. You have a great day. Thank you, sir. You too. We just... Did we just talk to the cartel? We talked to the person who's going to talk to the cartel. Yeah. I think the first guy was working. Yeah. I think the lady there... She knows the people. She knows the people. Yeah. This lady's not running social media. Do you think he heard when we said... No, they heard cartel. They definitely heard cartel. 100%. The first guy did. Yeah. But then he went until... Well, we didn't mention it. so we're making progress on this yeah that got a little too real for a second this is real journalism t also why why say ricky but then give him the real company because it wasn't my alias has been ricky for a long time i don't know where we go from there no i think maybe a cartel members listening to this yeah yeah you don't know how to come on pull the pull the data see how many people in mexico to listen to this show. Yeah. I bet you it's not zero. No, we've had several countries. Yeah, see? What was the craziest one you think? There were some in Eastern Europe, I'm sure, Americans that live over there. Or maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah, I don't remember exactly because y'all said they didn't do it this past year, but we had a few. I think that'd be a great interview. Yeah. I mean, this could be electric. Yeah. i i think if you get like if they say we got it set up are you going buddy we're going well that was my next question the passport ready yeah i've got it yeah you know what like i don't like this is all like we're gonna tell them hey we're like a social media company it's not like they're gonna be like yeah we're just gonna murder these two guys of course not that would be horrible for business yeah make headlines though it would be horrible for business horrible for their business. It would bury their business. Okay. All right. I mean, yeah. Think about the rant Dave would go on after that. Yeah, but I mean, hell of a lot of good that does me if I'm dead. Yeah. Dave would probably be like, if you're dead, he'd be like, what a trade. Get all the clicks. Dave would be like, I mean, this is terrible, but it's good content. Yeah. Exactly. So our deaths would be reduced to content. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. we'd go out swinging though i think you're fine i really think i really do i came into this episode a little worried i am not worried at all right now they need all the good pr they can get it's not like we're trying to go there and trash them no we just want to hear their side while staying at a five-star resort exactly the hotel does look great it does you seen this hotel jared i haven't seen it's it's good stuff yeah how much they were looking for a night i think it was like 600 no That's not bad. I mean, look at this. Oh, wow. Right on the water. Oh, that's gorgeous. I love when they have the chairs that dip into the pool a little bit. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love those. That's gorgeous. Wow. Love a good straw hut as well. Yeah, Columbia. Maybe you guys should do your interview with the cartel guy while getting massagers on the beach. A little couples massage action. How many views do you think we'd get on that video? Millions. A lot. A lot. Like more than we've ever gotten on anything. Yeah, that'd be sick. Would obviously have to go on the macro YouTube since that's where it was inspired. Of course. I mean, it could be electric. Honestly, I think we're all down. I think Eric is going to be so down for that. You think? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I guess we'll find out. Yeah. You think Arian would go? No. I don't think so. I think he would say he would, and then we'd be booking stuff, and he'd be like, I'm not actually doing that. Okay. There is a chance the cartel pays us for this interview, by the way. Would you take that money? Yes. Yeah, you'd take that money. You got to take that money. As long as I'm allowed to by the United States. We'd tell them, hey, look at this platform you're about to be put on. You're going to get millions and millions of views. Dude. The problem is it can't be too much. I'd take five. Yeah, I'd probably take five too. But I think we'd get a lot more than that. But if you get a lot more, don't get caught with cash around any law enforcement in the United States because you are guilty until proven innocent. Yeah, that's a good point. Do you know if you get stopped, like a traffic stop, whatever, and you have cash, they can just take it and you have to prove that the cash was not illegally obtained. Oh, yeah. That feels like a violation of my rights. It is. There have been guys who were going to buy a car, and they have $20,000 in cash, and they get pulled over for speeding whatever, and the cop says, what is that? Oh, I'm going to buy a car. Well, I think it's drug money. They take it. And then you have to prove that the cash was legal to get it back. Not good. I don't like that. Bad business. Really bad business. I think this is a good idea And I think that we can just Have them wire it I think it's great content I don't know that it's a good idea Aren't those synonymous with each other? Good content and bad ideas? Good content makes it a good idea There's an argument to be made for that? For sure What are the chances of being murdered you'd say? murdered like on purpose or something shit just goes down and you're there at the wrong time i think i'd say in your go south i'd say in total 15 no way it's not that high 15 yeah of a murder yeah i'd say like one in a thousand point one percent you think going to interview the Jalisco, what are they called? How many interviews are they doing? Whatever cartel, none that I've seen. You think you're going to interview one of the head honchos of the cartel and your odds of being killed are one in a thousand? Yes. First of all, I don't think we're getting the head honcho. No, definitely not. But if you're getting their PR guy or whoever, that's somebody high up in the structure. No doubt. I think that the guy who agrees to do the interview his odds of getting murdered are very high. But so you think the cartel would be unhappy with us? Yeah, but I do. Cherry's untouchable. Nobody's untouchable in Mexico. Come on. No, it's a business trip. You're there getting a couple of massages, a couple of daiquiris, a couple of cartel interviews. I do love a good daiquiri. I went too hard on the daiquiris at Christmas 24 when I was in Mexico. I think we start the interview off with gifts for them. Yes. What do you bring the cartel that has everything? Yeah, what do you bring the cartel that has everything? Hmm. What's a good gift? A good gift. Something American. This was off the deck. Oh, wow. That's a good pick. Yeah, you like that? Yeah, it's a good pick. I don't know. You give them something American. Maybe some chocolates. Some American chocolates. Something like that. Come down with a bunch of Reese's? Yeah. Reese's. Do they have Reese's in Mexico? I'm sure they do. They had Kit Kat in our room. okay yeah we can brainstorm on that yeah yeah you know i don't like i don't like that this has become a genuinely viable option i thought we were just messing around having fun with the guys we we haven't gotten a no yeah i know you love mexico i had a great time i never been oh you gotta check that box dude gotta go i guess we'll see is really are you coming you were part of this I would love to come. Okay. Then the only worry would be the interview going south. Right. I'm generally not down to do pre-approved questions. I do pre-approved. Yeah. Yeah. You got to do pre-approved. Explain why we got it all wrong. Yeah. Like we've had a couple guests whose people have tried to steer interviews in a certain direction. And T doesn't do that. Okay. t shoots from the hip yeah yeah so you're not there right for the cartel i would be willing to do pre-approved there yeah yeah oh that's whatever you want yeah tell us about all the how's your avocado farm right yeah tell us about all the goodwill you're doing in the community yeah how big was avocado toast for you guys 10 years ago that really had a moment yeah i feel like it's died down it has still good though do you know that jerry like all these people like the cartels kind of like took over slash like merged with avocado farmers. I did not know that. Yeah. Wow. So they're using their land and then it's just like it's another way to get drugs in. Oh, we just got a big crate of big truckload of avocados. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like avocado toast has been replaced with matcha. I've actually never had a matcha. Me neither. Yeah. I'm interested. Caleb Williams put me on it. White Sox Dave oddly loves him a matcha. Really? Did you guys happen to see his Instagram posts from Turkey? Yeah, that was all over the place. It was quite – he's taking like hot guy mirror selfies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was shocked to see that. Yeah, that was an interesting post. Yeah, and I was like, what's the deal with it? He goes, I don't know. I thought it looked hot. He looked good. Yeah, he does. He looked good. All right. Well, I mean, I don't think there's anywhere we can take it after potentially setting up a meeting with the cartel. Taking up to Puerto Vallarta. It seems that way. I don't know, man. I've got to film this fever pitch video first, and then we can talk about the cartel. That could be your legacy. Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, spring break's coming up, too. Yeah, we've got to get in before spring break. Yeah. We've got to get in before. Did y'all ever go on, like, a crazy spring break trip? No, I never did. I always had hockey and stuff. Never. Never. Well, this could be it, I guess. Yeah. All right. Well, boys, thank you. Thank you to everybody for listening. We may be bringing you the next episode from Puerto Vallarta with members of the cartel, which could be fun. Could be fun. Could be fun. We're just trying to learn. Thank you for watching. Goodbye. .