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But I think that as a kid growing up, the thing I feel so passionate about, which isn't terribly embarrassing, but I feel so passionate about everyone looking at what made them inspired and excited and believing in something when they were young and where did that go? You know, so for example, I was the dorky kid who loved accounts. I was the one who, when it was 11-11 in the morning, I'd make a wish. I was the one who played with my dad's adding machine, which had a handle. And I loved accounts. So that's not very exciting to everyone, but I loved it. And it has integrated into my ability to run a business this morning. I had a P&L meeting with everyone back home to have the courage to open a lodge and find dining restaurant. I didn't know anything about that. But when you look back at your childhood, whether you wanted to be a firefighter or work with people or you love your church or you love wildlife or puppies or what was the thing that made you get out of bed in the morning that you loved? Yeah. So my challenge is to circle back to that in some capacity. So if you are an accountant and you always wished you were a firefighter, you need to make inroads into what you can do to reignite with a firefighter joke there, to reignite your passion. That's so important. So please, embarrassing as a kid, I nailed it. Yeah. Or us to be able to have that passion throughout our lives instead of just ticking through time. Yeah. That's an important thing. It really is. It's so interesting because you're right. Like you really took account, like your math brain, your accounting side, your business acumen that you've had since you were a kid. And then your love of wildlife, and you're like, I'll just combine these two. I'll have multiple businesses that cater to rescuing and taking care of wildlife. So you really, you merged your two interests. And when I think about myself as a kid, one of my mom's favorite stories to tell about me is I had my little kind of like my lovey. His name was Buh. He was a bunny. And I called him Buh. And I've had him since the day I was born. And I was taking him with me to the mall. And we were with my aunt and my uncle and my cousins. And my mom said, okay, let me get a picture of you guys in front of the fountain. And I took my Buh and I looked at my uncle and I said, here, hold my Buh so I can pose. And I hand, I was only three years old. I hand over Buh and I laid down on the side of the fountain. And like, no one in my family was a performer. No one, they all just looked at me like, where did this come from? Where did this? And yet, you know, I just, and so it's not, it was surprising to none of them that I grew up to be a person who, you know, was a performer. 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What's the next thing you want to do? At some point during that trip, stupid 16 year old me decided I wanted to wear that outfit that was in my carry on and I didn't replace it. On the way back home, we got stuck in Newark, New Jersey due to weather. I think it was raining. I don't remember. But we had to spend the night in the Newark, New Jersey airport. I slept on the floor underneath a row of seats. And I was so dead tired from all the travel and now from this situation that when I woke up in the morning, I had peed my pants. Oh, no. No recollection of needing to go to the bathroom or any kind of stir of waking up. Just flat out dead to the world, peed my pants. Went to the bathroom. So embarrassed. Thankfully, I had on black sweatpants, thin ones though. But I don't think anybody could see. And thankfully, I hadn't used the underwear that was in my carry on. So I at least was able to change my underwear. But I was stuck in my peed sweatpants at 16 years old. And we'll never forget the advice of my father from now on to put a complete change of clothes in my carry on. We ended up being stuck in Newark for another night, but they got us a hotel. And I also had my carry on one of those little laundry packs. So I was able to wash my pants in my hotel room sink, which was a whole other thing. I like to think nobody knew. I don't tell this story very embarrassing. I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks. Bye. Oh my gosh. That wins. That is that is pretty darn good. I, whoo, first of all, shout out to parents, giving good advice. Like that is such good advice to have a complete change of clothes in your carry on. Because you never know when that's going to happen that your luggage is just lost. And then it's nice to have a change of clothes. I'm a little confused by Rebecca putting on her clean pair of underwear, even though she had to still live in her pee pants. I'm not sure how the clean underwear helps when you're still in wet pants. But really smart that she was had a laundry pack in her suitcase so she could wash it in the sink. I want this is also a very embarrassing story for me that I once at a at a golf tournament at Sherwood Country Club in California had been watching the golf. It was so good. Tiger Woods was playing. It was an incredible tournament. And I had to go to the bathroom so bad. And they only had a little they were very nice outhouses. But they only had outhouses so often. And I had been holding it because I didn't want to leave the golf tournament. And at the very end, I'm like, finally, I can go to the bathroom. And I have to run to this outhouse. It was such a fancy outhouse that the toilet actually had a lid on it. I've never I've never even experienced it. This point I had never even seen an outhouse that had a toilet with a lid on it. And because I had never seen that, I didn't think to check, is the lid open or closed? So I ran I just ran in and was already unbuttoning my pants, pulled my pants down, squatted, didn't sit all the way, but just squatted and started going to the bathroom. And when I hear the sound of liquid hitting something plastic, but and I think, oh, that's just an odd sound. Well, because the lid was closed, the pee just went right down like this into my pants. No, you were the most creative wetting your pants. Thank you. I win the award for most creative way to actually wet your pants. And it was I didn't realize what had happened until, of course, I pulled my pants up. And I was like, what under a business? And then I turned around and I see that the lid is down. And I'm like, this is mortifying. Thankfully, similarly to Rebecca, there was a little bit of a saving grace that I was wearing a sweatshirt, like a crewneck sweatshirt, over a t-shirt. And so I was able to take off my crewneck and tie it around my waist. Yes. And then I had to immediately leave the premises. We're walking very quickly to the car. Because probably as you left, you discovered tiger woods is waiting to use the restroom. Okay. Correct. Exactly. Oh, hey, would you like to say hello to some of the golfers? No, I would not. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. That is so bizarre. So now you must like take a head torch and two other lights to check everything before you use the bathroom. Exactly. I've never once walked into a room. Even if I've had to go very bad, I walk in and like make sure the, it's so funny that that moment that's now 20 years ago has truly crossed my mind every time I've ever even been near an outhouse. Oh, because it's mortifying. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. And it just, it always happens at the least convenient moment. So we, in traveling when Robert was a tiny baby, I'm breastfeeding on the plane. And we're taking off to fly Eugene to Portland, Portland to San Fran, to LA, to Sydney, to Brisbane. Because when Robert was a baby, there were no direct flights or anything like them. So I'm flying like all these different flights to get home, right? Oh, my gosh. Now it's way easier. Now it's like straight shot from LA. So it's great. But I'm breastfeeding him. And because he's drinking breast milk, everything that happens in his diaper is very liquid. Yes, yes. It kind of looks like egg yolk. Yep. So he managed to find an air gap and egg yolk, my pink sweatpants that I was wearing, as we were taking off on my first flight. So what do I have for clothes? Robert clothes and Vindy clothes. No, Terry clothes. So yeah, you're absolutely right. I didn't actually do that to myself, but I got to live with it for many, many hours. So yeah, those are fun things. You've seen the selfies? Come on, we'll get the shot. Now see the real hair. There's so much confidence in myself I need to build. Princess Andre is back with the Princess Diaries on ITVX. This is actually dreaming. 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First of all, the pumps, they're pretty small, but they look a little suspicious. If you're not super familiar with what it is, it's got a clock. It counts down. It's got a blinking light. And I am trying to do it discreetly because it's not a comfortable situation. You also can't take up the restroom on a plane for 15 to 20 minutes while you pump. So it's not like you can go excuse yourself to the bathroom. So you have to do it in your seat. I'm sitting next to a gentleman. I don't know from Adam. I don't know who he is. And I think to myself, do I say excuse me? I just want you to know. I'm going to pump or is that? I'm like, I don't, he doesn't need to know that. But if I don't say anything, and then he's like looking, you know, he sees me with this round thing with a clock counting down on it. And I'm like trying to connect it to a breast over here under a towel. And I did at one time have a flight attendant walk by and say, I'm sorry, I do have to inquire about what that machine is. And it was like, I'm sorry. It's a, it's a breast pump. And he was like, I'm, then he felt bad that he even asked. He said, I'm so sorry. I just, I see a behaving weirdly under a blanket with a machine that has a clock on it. Yeah. And I, I have to ask, what is that? Yeah. It's probably an acme breast pump and it's going to explode at any moment. Exactly, exactly. It's a loony tunes. And I know you mentioned that you, with both kids, you were breastfeeding both kids while you were traveling. That you must have, you must have had to breastfeed or do some uncomfortable things in many, many different environments. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. Yes. But I think that's what made me very understanding. And it's fun at Australia Zoo because we've been breastfeeding accredited for years. So we have great private areas for both guests and staff. And we very much make it a not awkward situation for people, whether you're pumping it work or whether you live nearby and someone's trying to bring the baby in or whatever's going on. It's trying to find ways to make it easier and better and more comfortable for women instead of feeling like you're robbing a bank when you're just trying to feed or pump or whatever's going on. But I think I breastfed because I'm basically lazy. So the thought of having to make bottles in a tent in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, heck to the know. So thankfully I was able to because as we all know, fed is best. So you can't breastfeed. You didn't lose the game. It's not a feel. Just feed them. But for me being lazy and being able to breastfeed, it was really a blessing that wherever I was, I could just discreetly look up that kid and get to see them. Yeah, because I was able to take them with me again. Lucky. I know what a blessing. Lovely. I don't think there's anyone who could describe you as lazy, but I do understand what you mean. My first child, I had to exclusively pump because he had a, he actually breast milk made his lungs fill up with fluid. He was born with something called chylathorax, but they wanted him to have the benefits of breast milk. But we had to monitor how much he could have at a time. Then he'd go get an x-ray. If his lungs were clear, they'd say, now you can bump it up. If his lungs filled up with fluid, then they'd say, now you need to tone it down. So I was constantly measuring exactly how much breast milk he had so that we could do the x-rays. But then with my second, he was exclusively breastfed. And it was like, this is so much easier because like you said, so so fortunate that I was able to breastfeed. And then not having to, you know, measure and deal with formula and make bottles. It was, I felt very much the same way. Yeah. You mentioned that the Australia Zoo is breast breastfeeding. What did you call it? Accredited. So you go through a process where you can demonstrate what you've done for people. But I love that. Like in this day and age of our awareness of women's medical needs, whether it's endometriosis or things that women are going through. One of the things that's a real kicker is when you go to a restroom, you don't expect to pay for toilet paper. So why do you pay for feminine hygiene? So we have free feminine hygiene at Australia Zoo. So when you come in and you go, I wasn't expecting this today. There's your little machine. And it meters them out. There's, you know, you get your whatever you need. And then it takes five minutes before it resupplies. So nobody's abusing the system. And you've got a free thing. So, you know, whatever it is, when you go through life and you learn something, you should apply it. So I learned another example is I learned people who are adults who need assistance in the restroom. And they may need to be changed are having to do that on the floor. So we've got a disability restroom that's just for that. It is beautiful. You go in and there's an adult change area that's very respectful. And there's assistance things throughout the bathroom and privacy screens. And everything you need in there, I'm so proud of that. So kind of, you know, as someone who doesn't deal with that, I had to be told because I don't have that awareness. Yeah. You know, I don't go, gee, I wonder how adults who need to be changed deal with that. And then when I found out, I went, oh my god, we have to fix that. And I'm so passionate about it because people write in and they go, we could come to Australia Zoo for two or three hours and we had to go home. Now we can stay all day. Thank you. And I just think, how can everybody not know this and fix this? So whether it's making breastfeeding better or feminine hygiene more available or, you know, the disability access more fair, I love it. I can't tell you how much I love it. I just love, love, love. I'm so excited. We've got this really cool thing at the lodge with our infinity pool. So if you are in a wheelchair, it gets you into the pool and out again. And you can use the pool. And it's just all those little things. I love it. It's just wonderful. Something else we can look forward to for Australia Zoo. Why don't you talk to us a little bit about what's going on there? And I know you are away from it. You've been away for quite a while. When, yeah, yeah, I think you're very excited about. I'm very excited about the next step with our fine dining is to try to get what's called a hat in Australia. They don't call it a Michelin Star in Australia. They call it a hat. I do not know why the Michelin Star shuns Australia. But working on that. I need to change that. Yeah. And our red panda is pregnant with twins. She's due for any day. I'm so excited. We have five Koala joys. Our kind of good news, bad news thing with our wildlife hospital is it's trauma season right now, which means animals are looking for mates, babies are leaving the nest or their parents and they're coming into strife. So they're encountering roads, windows, dogs. And they end up in our wildlife hospital. And it is busier than it's ever been since it opened in 2004. But I'm so proud of our team and the work that they're doing through our charity wildlife warriors is incredible. And we're treating over 10,000 animals a year now. We've treated just over 12,000 Koala's alone over 160,000 animals all up. And whether it's fires or floods or conflict with, you know, development or whatever's going on, if we can help fix things and get things a little bit back to normal, I mean, I miss it. I miss being in the thick of it. And I miss just the smell of a Koala when you're holding it. I miss feeding our kangaroos and the giant tortoises coming over at top speed to see you. Yeah, exactly. They're on their way. They're on their way. But no, I feel incredibly blessed. Very, very well. Will you guys post pictures of the beautiful red panda babies when they're born? Yes. And people who visit Australia's, you will get to see them. So my mom is very calm. And her habitat is where everyone can see her. So when she has her babies, she'll keep them in her little den. And then she'll start bringing them out. And they are impossibly beautiful. They look like little Disney animation plush toys. They're so beautiful. And they're endangered. So being able to see them and feeling compelled to do something by, you know, just visiting Australia's zoo, part of those funds go back to help the animals you've met. So it's really, really wonderful to be able to share that because that's what inspires people when they see the animals, when they smell the eucalyptus smell of a koala, when they meet DJ the rhino and you can feel how rough and bumpy his skin is and what an amazing dinosaur he is. That is what inspires me. That just love watching people. And a lot of people end up very emotional when they meet an animal because they're like, Oh my gosh, I never thought I'd get to, you'll be glad to know we don't have any arachnids on display at Australia's zoo, no spiders. So you will be safe. I'm safe there. I'm safe. Well, I can't thank you enough for spending your time with us. I think you are just an absolute joy. And there's no one who could, there's no one who could disagree. So thank you again for being with us. Thank you to Rebecca for sharing your story. And as always, lovely to talk to you. I like I said, I am going to take you up on your offer. I would love nothing more than to visit Australia's zoo myself, but also for my boys, my boys are going to love every second of it. So we will make a family trip of it. I would love that genuinely. We would have a blast. We'll do all the fun things. Okay, great. But we'll align our schedules because you have such a thriving and active life. Robert has such a thriving and active life. And then so we will align schedules. I'll be in touch and we can we can make it happen because this is this would be a very special once in a lifetime experience for my family. That would be great. Thank you so much. This has been really fun. And I like the diverse things we've talked about. It's amazing. We've talked about all kinds of things. And I think there's so much conversations like this, like you said, about even just the awareness around women's issues. The more we talk about the things that, and especially the way we were as children and we recognize that we're actually so much more alike than we think we are. We all have similar stories in our life where we can pinpoint the moments we found our stride or where we felt like maybe we didn't take good advice that had been given to us. And it really makes you feel I just in general think hearing people's stories makes you more empathetic to people. I agree. And I think I love the embarrassing stories that we're shared because it makes us all feel like we're all human and it's okay. And I think, you know, I really believe the meaning of life is unconditional love. And I think just, you know, we do that with our kids. So if we can do that with wildlife and people that we meet and have that, you know, it's not transactional. It's loving someone. I think that's what's going to really change things for sure. I love that. Thank you so much. And I will thank you for this. Wi-Fi has been wonderful. Thank you for joining us while you're still in the middle of such a hectic work schedule. I don't want to take up any more of your time. Thank you so much, truly, for being here. No worries. All the best. And we'll see you down under soon. We'll see you down under. Bye. Teen Beat is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fischel, executive producers, Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, executive and charge of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, Tara Sue Bach. The theme song is by Mark Hopis. Yes, that Mark Hopis. Follow us on Instagram at Teen Beat Pod. In the rent spring sale, you can get an amazing deal faster than you can say incredible value. Visit your local rent showroom right now and get up to 60% of our high quality, fully built kitchen units and an AEG dishwasher for just £149. Plus, there's up to seven years interest free credit, made for giving your kitchen a new beginning this spring. Ren, made for living. 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