Smartless Presents - Peerless: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2026

Good morning, girl, is it's the tallos? It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. It's sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a day that is both par-jolicious. And definetious. And speaking of par-joliciousness and defoliciousness, I am honored. Humble to introduce today's guest, Jacqueline Foulet. Hello, Jacqueline. Welcome to the show. Hey, Terti, low. Happy to be here. Okay, cable man. Okay, stripes. Oh, I'm so glad you brought out my shirt. And I didn't bring up your shirt just to talk about my shirt. Don't you feel like everybody's talking about my shirt today? We're definitely all noticing that you're wearing a new shirt. What seems to be a new shirt and I'm not going to presume. I'm sorry to the cardboard cadets. This is not from Nordstrom Rack, but my cardboard cadets will be pleased to know the shirt is also under $50. I went to mango. Mangoes so like having a moment. It's a bit small. At the mall, I went to mango and I just tried on a couple of things. Now, I want to shout out mango for having reasonably priced clothing that is not ugly. I think that's important. But I do want to just sort of like tell mango like small biann large. Like that's crazy. That's crazy, small biann large. You know, like what about other sizes outside of that? So yeah, the shirt's a little tight, but like I just need to shirts. I want to make out. If it's sometimes when you go too big, you get that bulk here. That's what I'm dealing with. Like I want to think your sizes, but I don't want extra bulk here. There's nothing better than a big shirt. Do you know what I mean? A shirt, yes. But that if it were too big would not be good. I think it looks nice on you. Thank you. So I do feel like everyone's talking about my new shirt. Well, we're excited that you have a new shirt and that you're feeling cogey self. Yeah, and it went to the mall and it's just malls are amazing. They are. Oh my goodness. And I really sad what's happened to them. So you built like they're a thing of the past, right? Like they're sort of phasing out. Yeah, especially the traditional malls now. Like your mall has to be like a ratata, like a theme park. Yeah, yeah, like the American Dream Mall. Like it has a water slide and Lego land and it's also a mall. And even American Dream, I think suffers. I think American Dream is like in financial ruin. I think they suffer in silence. Yeah. I think they put on extra. I feel like it's quite loud. I feel like we're always hearing about how the new Jersey, whatever it's called, the American Dream Mall, is like in financial despair, the people who built it, like our living in poverty, like there's always stories about that mall. I feel like they put on a briefcase. They're always sending out emails about what SpongeBob is doing. And Mr. Beast recorded like a huge video there. They act like nothing's wrong, but I think they're suffering. Yeah, I mean, I for one, I'm glad I didn't like ever get into the mall business. But as a mall patron, I went to the mall like over the weekend and I just had such an amazing time. And Ben was sort of striking out like every story went, he just didn't want it that badly. You know, like I was sometimes you have to go to the mall with a mission. And I went to the mall with a mission, I'm not trying things on. Like if it looks like it fits, it will fit. I went to Mango, I went to Allo, like I went to a couple of stores just to get toast clothing. And I crushed it like every store. I got close to Tommy Bahama, okay. I was crushing it and Ben was just like, don't open my eyes. I was like, I feel like you don't want it bad enough. Like he was being such like a sour pus. He didn't want it. I was like, I'm not going to go to the mall brands, my sweater today, airy. Okay, I walked into, I feel like people would be shocked that I walked into an airy airy. And I think it was gifted like a year ago and I wore it like all last winter. You know what they call that sweater? Cable man. Well, technically yes, but you know what other people call it. What? The Rory Gilmore sweater. Oh, cute. And then I forgot that I had it, but it's been so chilly down here that I'm excited to be wearing it today. It's a great sweater. It's, you look beautiful. Thank you. What is to you? Dozzling. You know what I did last night? Did something crazy? Crack? Crazy. Death? Crazy. I took a bath. Oh my god, that is really crazy of you because I also took a bath. That's sort of like a nightly occurrence. I haven't taken a bath. You as Jackie has this amazing bath. It's in the corner. It's by a window. There's art over it. It has multiple faucets she never uses it. I've probably used your bath just as many times as you have. Probably. I haven't taken a bath certainly in over a year because I didn't take one. Pregnant. While I was pregnant. And I didn't take one since I've given birth because I only went to my six week, ten week appointment. Right. Last week. But last, like my body is just like we're hurting, like aching. Almost like for a bath. Body aches, but I don't have the rest of a sickness. I feel like I'm fighting something off. But it's taking a toll on my joints. So you had to take it to the bath. So I was like, oh my god, I need a soak. So I took a bath. Did you wear your hair now? No, no, no. I'm wetting your, washing your hair is for the shower. That's an Olympic sport washing your hair in the tub. Especially I take a really hot bath. So when I get up, you get like dizzy. When you get out of the bath, I need to then lay down. Quite literally a Victorian woman. You are not built for this time. Yes. So where's Jackie? She couldn't make it to dinner. My bath was too hot. Like that's literally like what happens in those shows, like the Empress. Yes. She gets like woozy or like you know when like a woman's like outside, they're like, are you okay? Yeah. That's you. But I enjoyed my bath, my yearly bath. That's great. I'll see you again next year, bath. I can't even picture you in the bath. And it's like, what do you really do? And every time I'm in the bath, I need one of those pillows that I see get Instagram ads for. Yeah. I got like prop up my back because what I'm going to lay with my neck on the wedge. Like I'm washing my hair at the salon. So when you do take a bath and you commit to not wetting your hair, it's definitely less relaxing. Because just being able to lean back and get your hair wet is very relaxing. I got one. Actually Taylor Strecker got me one of those pillows for my birthday because she had one in her house and I was like, wait, that's amazing. She got me one. I have to tell you and shout out to Taylor, it was an amazing gift for like two months. It became such a chore. First of all, it became smelly. And once it became smelly, I got rid of it. But like you really in order to properly take care of it, like need to take it out of the bath every time you use it and air dry it. And I was like, but when it was in the bath, did it do what you needed it to do? No, because the pillow itself like does get a little wet. So if you really lean back on it fully, like your hair gets wet. Oh, but take that out. Like was it cozy? Yes. So maybe I should get one for my yearly bath. It has a year to dry. Yeah, but you're going to put it outside and like it's this big, heavy, soaking wet thing. Oh, yeah, it's not all it's cracked up to be sorry, Taylor Strecker. And I know it's expensive too. Well, that was it's a thought that count. A very good gift. Yeah. She spoke to the Strecker this morning. How are they doing? Amazing. They're doing amazing. Like they're loving every minute. Taylor Strecker keeps calling herself dad, which is cracking me up. And they actually said that I don't want to spoil it because they're probably going to talk about it on their podcast about the brusiness. They have to get it. Like there's an error on it that says because because there are two women, it says parent one and parent two. And then when they printed it, it said mom and dad. It actually says dad on there, which it can't be. Like it has to like legally be cracked. So she's calling herself dad and it's so funny. Because she was dad. And she has taken on this sort of fatherly role. And she spoke a lot on when I was on her podcast and just in her podcast in general. And she was struggling with that identity. But she's like, she is dad. Like she's dad. She's like, she's learning about to get a tool belt. Like she's dad. It's hilarious. And she's like doing night feedings because she's the dad, you know. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. She's on diaper duty. Dad. Dad stuff. The circle stuff. I also have a newborn who eats every three hours again. Oh, yeah. But you actually do have a newborn. He's only like 11 weeks old. Yeah. He is. Well, how old is he? Let me guess. Let me guess. 14 weeks. No, less. I think he's 12 weeks. And you know, it's confusing because I feel like my whole life I've been told that there's four weeks in a month. And then you have a four week old, but you don't have a one month old. Well, it's funny. You bring that up because I don't know if you've seen the stats on this February. Oh, is it a historic February? Look at the calendar. Oh, is it full four weeks? It's blocks. Oh, I like that. And you know, because of the 20 eight days, that's how the month should look. I completely agree. Now, that's a month. That's a month that's giving month. Yeah. It's like every week is Monday to Sunday, Monday to Sunday, Monday to Sunday. Yeah. The first is a Sunday. And then the last day of the month is the Saturday. I love that. It's a beautiful month. Enjoy it, everyone. I didn't even much like Cynthia Revo. I did not know that was happening. I just wanted to say that I think it's a really good thing to have a calendar. I think it's a really good thing to have a calendar. I think it's a really good thing to have a calendar. For those of us who are into months, it's major news. I feel like this is big news for people with planners. It is. And then March 1st will start on a Sunday. So that looks nice up until the three straggler days. That's nice. I like that. Yeah. So if you're, I actually want to get out my big calendar. We've been making so many plans. You saw just what I showed you. My phone. It looks very busy. I feel like you should talk about how your life is so enriched since I decided not to leave. Why do you talk about that? I really wanted to take that isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation you like more low key activities. You can just also lay around your house. But like going to the mall with the babies, like is a good activity for me? Because like I'm with my babies. And we are doing something for us. I love that. Yeah, no, I'm definitely overwhelmed, but I think like busy is good. Yeah. And it's just like crazy how I literally convalesced for three months after I had how I like, I did not leave the house. The first time my big outing was your show at MSG. And that was in May. Oh wow, I don't know if I realized that my big night was also like a big night for you. It was a big, I remember I was like, I took my pumps out. Now I would be like, I'm going out for a few hours. I'll skip a pump. Yeah, of course. I had Harry in February. And that was my big was May. And like, then I remember with Charlie, like that was when I started using the baby carrier more because like you have a child, you have to get the piano piano, just be home. And now it's like, like really, the bubble is bursting. I feel like it makes it go by a little faster, like the hard part. It does, but you also want to soak it up. I know. I know. It's in the eternal conflict. I've been aged, so I tried to soak up as much as I can. And I'm like, Ratatamama's got to go. Ratatata, and he's coming with. Yeah, of course. He's coming with. We got a carrier in every color. Oh, he got it. Matchy outfit. I'm glad that like we're having fun. We are having fun. I will go home and we stop having fun. I think that's like a good, but we'll never come back. But then you'll never come back. No, but we also, we never stop having fun. That's true. So I guess I'll never go home. But also if you wait till like you hate me, then you'll never come back. You have to leave them behind. Well, that is what I do. But that also happened when I was staying at your house. Now that we're in our own little place, it's better. When I was staying at your house, I would stay until I actually could not stand you or your family. And then I wouldn't come back for months because I was like, I can't stand these people still. Right. So maybe leave them behind. Check on today. No, we have no. You hear that not take out the trash in New York. I was just talking to your friends. I wasn't talking to them. I talked to a lot of people this morning. I was like, rolling off. It sounds like it. Yeah, shout out to Alicia. I had to check in on my bestie. We just had a baby. I had to check on those truckers. It's important to check in on people. And I heard about the garbage pick up. Garbage has to be picked up in New York and I think in like 10 days. So the streets are covered in ice and garbage. I ain't running home. I ain't running home. No, you're needed here. We've got we've got plan. I mean, look at me. I'm kind of like, I don't like the social chair of South Florida. I'm like, can I sit on my shoe, go to dinner? So she think we should go out to dinner this week. Oh, you do girls are couples. Okay. So I'm actually glad you brought that up because I was thinking we should do couples. Because like, I'm like, every day, I'm like, Ben, I'm going here. I'm going there. I'm like doing a lot of things. And he's kind of like being like a house frow. So I want to get Ben out of the house. We have reverse roles. You want to get Ben out of the house. Yeah, I want to get Ben out of the house. So it's like, okay, maybe we go with house. And then it's just like a reservation for like eight people. It's like so many people. And then you also get a sitter. Like I like girls because. I'm just gonna try to make it to your house. Okay, then I, but like then my husband's home and like I can really enjoy myself. I feel like that's what we always suggest to your toasters. And it's like, I don't, I'm sorry, Zach, this is how I can like have more fun. I totally agree. And it's not because I need to be just with the girls, but it's like I, I don't want to do it like deal with all that. Yes, you know, the best feeling is like going and having fun while your husband is home. I know that's mean, but like with the baby, like no one, the only, the best thing after me is him. Yeah, yeah. No, I totally agree. So like you really have peace of mind. Okay, so the two girls center. That's why I, sounds good. But then every time I got, I went out at night twice last week and I was like, this is not for me. I actually agree. Catch me during the day. I don't love going out at night. Me neither, but I do want to go out to dinner. Maybe when it's almost daylight savings like in a month, and then it will start to be lighter later. And maybe then going out to dinner will feel better. Won't be like pitch black. If I'm still here, well, oh, true. Yeah, you're making big plans. I explain. No, the club needs to say for daylight savings. It's the best. It really is so impactful here. Like when we get more daylight, because we can really use it because the weather is good. You know what it sounds like you've been doing? Making big, big plans. You are so close. Pray in for daylight. You were so close. Yeah. Yeah, pray in for daylight and rescue flats. Oh my God, yes. So we are going to the rescue flats concert and that is technically why I am still here because I was not coming back. So we'll reevaluate after rescue flats. You better put on a heck of a show. Oh my God, we got to talk about that too. I'm worried. We have to talk about this. Okay, so I'm not worried. Massacre flats, Gary Levox is going viral. For the sake of rescue flats. For one of his performances, someone like film to be posted in, they said he was like hootin' and hootin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and hoorin' and he was like off key and all over the place and it was a mess. I watched the videos and I couldn't confirm it was messy. However, like I give him grace, there's no question, there's no doubt that he is the most talented vocalist. If something happened that night to throw him off, whether it was the drink, whether it was the audio, Alex Warren's style, like that's not Gary's style. It's annoying that like Gary's bad night gets so much PR when like Gary has night after night. Margot just went like he crushes it every single time. Now we are going. So true. That's such a negative society we live in. I know. They get no like positive overlays. Yeah. For what he does night after night and he slays and the one time he's, I can't even say what was happening. Yeah, he was just like the thing is he's been singing these songs for 30 years. Like sorry, he tried something different. Like don't make fun of the girl who took a chance, you know? Like he always, he always riffs and he's like, and it's part of the relationship. He was challenging himself creatively. He was just off. I think he couldn't hear or he was drunk. Let's just say. You know what? Like you would do it too if you're talking with the same badminton, the same song for like 50 years. If my life was listening to Rascal Plats like all day every day. I don't know if you would feel the way if you were Rascal Plats though. That must be how people feel maybe about the toast. No, no, no. Don't make Rascal's problem a problem. No, no, if people like, I am to Rascal Plats. What the toasters are to the toast. Yeah, it's called a fan. I can't understand what I was saying. I just do while we're on the topic. I have two requests for Rascal Plats. And I do know that people in the Rascal Plats orbit like listens to the show. So we are coming to the show. And then you should do two things for me. We're coming to show we don't need our tickets yet. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. I need you to do three things for me. I need tickets. And we want we want we want to take it. We want to take it. We want to take it. We want to take it. I'm a big group. That's the problem. Yeah, we need 10 front row tickets. And like there's not 10 MTCs right now. It's kind of like the age old question. Like we should leave the husbands at home, except that it's Valentine's Day. Yeah, so yeah. No, and I turn back into the biggest Rascal Plats fan. He's not staying home. Ben could stay home honestly. He's like, I'll go like for you. But OK, so I need three things. I need 10 front row tickets. I need you to add one song to your set. It's just like a special one night only, how they remember you. That is my favorite Rascal Plats. So if you guys can do that, that would be great. And then third, this is just like a general overall thing that Gary does. I really need him to stop doing it. I watch every video every time I get Rascal Plats live performance comes up on my TikTok, like I'm sad. And he does this thing that a lot of performers do. And it is my biggest pet peeve. Like when you get to the best part of the song, like don't give us the microphone. Keep it to yourself. Like, laugh is a stop. It's so annoying, like the best parts of the song you don't hear, because like the crowd is singing it. Please, I really don't like that, Gary. Please stop doing that. And I will just take whatever show that you have to give me. Even if it is a bunch of hootin' and hollering. Even if it is. I wouldn't even, like, you're in the presence of greatness. Like that fucking in grade who exposed him. Oh, yeah. Well, she's on a real flotistra. Oh, yeah. What's our name? I don't know. The little rascals? The little rascals. Yeah. Escalitas. I like rescalitas. Me too. OK. Rascalitas flots. That's teetas. That's teetas. Well, that's going to be fine. Oh, we're called, I know we're called, sorry. We're flat earthers. OK. Flats. What if they rebranded? The flats. I like it. That is a cute name. I mean, their name is everything. Yeah. So they can't, but it's like how Lady Antebellum became Lady A. Yeah. Rascal flats become the flats. No, the Dixie Chicks became the Chicks. That's really more so. Oh, yeah, yeah. Thanks, Ruiz. Yeah, thanks. Yeah. Once again, like, destroying all my calls. No. But I also remember to another call that I made, not the one that we remember, because those two people, like from our personal life, that you guys wouldn't even care. But I was thinking of another call. It wasn't Hannah Brant Johnson, right? Because I was watching Chuck Tank last night. Robert Hergevic. It's the judge equivalent to Derek Huff for you. It's, you liked it when I made it. You said that to me, right? Yeah. Nagen, that's the first time I've heard it. When we were recapping Denshu with the stars, and I was like, I liked her. And you're like, yeah. And I was like, I feel like for you, he's like the Robert Hergevic of Denshu with this. Oh, OK. Then did I like it then? Yeah, you like it. OK, so good call, good call. 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The search for Savannah, three's mother Nancy is a race against time says the sheriff. So Savannah got three's mother has been missing for 48 hours. The last scene Saturday night, right? Yeah, she was last seen Saturday night. She was reported missing Sunday morning when she didn't show up to church. And now it is a missing person's investigation. The investigators have said that they believe that she was abducted from her home, that there was a fight she did not believe. There was blood. The house is now crime scene. The house is a crime scene. They believe she did not leave willingly. Right. I think a lot of times when an elderly person disappears, they'll like chalk it up too. You know, cognitive issues, you know, people who are elderly are often found like wandering. But it was very clear from the beginning, like, no, she was like snatched. Yeah. And like, I was talking about this as somebody yesterday. I was like, well, she like kidnapped. And you never really used the word kidnapped for an old kid. Right. Because this just like doesn't happen. It's so evil. Yeah. It's a really crazy upsetting story. And she also has health issues. So she takes a daily medication. That if she doesn't take, could be fatal for her. Right. So it's like very high stakes. Yeah. Savannah got three posted on Instagram this morning. Like, please send prayers. I think she was supposed to head to the Olympics. The Olympics in Milan. She's obviously not going. What a weird spooky story. Yeah. A nightmare. A nightmare. Yeah. So more like, there's not a lot of details that have come out. But I think also like, please department don't want to share. So if they have a suspect in mind, they don't want to let them know like what we know. What sort of enemies is an old lady who goes to church? She was a Saturday night with her kids, Sunday morning church. She played Mahjong's Saturday night. I just saw that in the Daily Mail. But couldn't have been more wholesome. Who is targeting this woman? I don't know. Like seriously, it's a crazy story. She lived in a very affluent community where there should be like security cameras. We've not seen any security footage. I mean, I heard that her home did not have a lot of security, except there were a couple of cameras outside that they're working on getting access to. But like, it wasn't a hot, you know, hot wire to secure. But like the front door was unlocked, but there was like signs of four century. All the common areas lights were left on. So it's a like it's a confusing situation no one knows what happened. So sad. Yeah. I think like every like person's worst nightmare. Yeah, I hope that they get some answers soon. No, I hope she's okay. Yeah. What the fuck? I don't know. So what like a crazy story? Crazy story. Yeah. Prank for her. Yeah. Prank for her. Our next story, some talk show news. Oh my god. Clarkson confirms that her talk show will end after seven years. Seven seasons. She said this is not easy decision. So Kelly posted yesterday. I have been extremely fortunate to work with such an outstanding group of people at TKCS, the Kelly Clarkson show, both in LA and New York. There have been so many amazing moments and shows over these seven seasons. I am for grateful and honored to have worked alongside the greatest band and crew you could hope for all the talent and inspiring people who have shared their time and lives with us, all the fans. Because of all of that, this was not an easy decision, but the season will be my last. Stepping away from the daily schedule will allow me to prioritize my kids, which feels necessary and right for this next chapter of our lives. This isn't goodbye. I'll still be making music playing shows here and there. That sounds like I didn't think that you wouldn't be. Oh, I thought that the here and there was like, don't get too excited. And you may catch me on the voice from time to time. You never know where I might show up next. It's giving, I just think like she didn't have to do this forever. So if she's closing this chapter, like, of course, you go back to music and you go back to everything else you were doing. But like the fact that she's reassuring us that she'll be making music and performing here and there. Right. So I think given everything that Kelly has been through, like it's not shocking at all that her show is coming to an end, she should prioritize what she wants to prioritize. However, I feel like this is based off of a feeling, like no proof that she's kind of been over it for some time and like she's ending it more so because of that. Like if she really loved it and wanted to keep going, like, you know, you can find a way to balance family and everything, I just feel like it was time for her. In addition to all the things that she's been through. Yeah. I don't know that she's over it, but I think a job like that, you have to give so much of yourself and it's very like depleting on like your battery. And I think she wants to give all of that at home and not have to show up every day. Rattata, like when you're not feeling that way every day. It's also an amazing way to go out. Like I think you even she's, you know, the biggest and baddest in daytime, but like that might not have been the case forever. And there's nothing worse than like ending your show because like the rating stank. Like yeah, to go out on top after seven very successful seasons. I mean, we are getting one more season, which means we'll probably get like a fabulous final season with lots of like Kelly content. It's good. I'm not displeased. And I do feel like while I love the Kelly Clarkson show and I love what it's done for her, I feel like Kelly Oki was huge for her Q score rating amongst a new generation of listeners. I wasn't like watching it a lot. Like I do, I'd rather her go on tour. I'd rather get music from her. I agree. Yeah, I do feel like it hindered her other projects. And so there was a time and space for it. I'm kind of thrilled that we're going to go back to the OG Kelly, but I don't know why she said it like that playing shows here and there unless that was like meant to like be an Easter egg for something. No, I feel like she's really not going to be doing a lot after this. Like it's easy to release music. It's easy to go on the voice like you stay in one place, but to tour, especially if she's like really is prioritizing family, like being like, yeah, I'll release new music, but don't expect me to go on like a 50 city tour. That's fine by me. Just New York or like Vegas. Yeah, destination. Yeah, we'll travel. We'll travel for Kelly. She's on the short list of people I'll travel for. Oh, who's on the list? Rascal Flats. Of course. Kelly Clarkson. I would travel for Luke. Luke. Um, would you know for Taylor? Uh, no. For her. No, Mars. But like I think that's it. You said it was a short list. Yeah. Four. It's a good list. Yeah. What about you? I have a travel for, I mean, I have traveled for Luke. I have traveled for Taylor. I have traveled for Rascal. I'm aligned. Mm hmm. Like once in a life like shows that like I would travel for one republic. Oh, did we see them? We did. We traveled to New Jersey. We traveled to New Jersey. That's not really travel. And I would also travel for the Googoo dolls. I've seen them. Me too. Beautiful. Like genuinely amazing performers. X to C is all you need. Living in the big machine. Now, I don't know what the hell they're saying in any of their songs. Now your world is way too fast. And nothing's really, nothing lasts. We're all alive. Like I don't even know what the hell he's saying. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. You know, Charlie Puth was on this Rolling Stone podcast. And I don't know why I saw so many clips of it. Maybe because the person asking questions was actually asking good questions. And Charlie was actually giving insightful answers. And he is really widely regarded. Look at Charlie Puth as a Charlie. I didn't realize Charlie Puth was a Charlie there. You know, I love it Charlie. I do know that. I love it Charlie. I've actually been loving Charlie Puth more, you know? Good namesake for your son. Yeah. I love that. And I'm excited for his national anthem coming up. Yes. Well, Charlie Puth was asked because he is widely regarded as one of like the greatest song writers. One of the greatest Charlie's. That too. Actually, no, he doesn't even compare to our Charlie. One of the greatest song writers of our generation, and he was like, what do you think are like five of the best written most perfect songs? And he said a couple, I don't remember. But I was struck that he said iris by the Gugudals. Like that's someone who knows real music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to know the other ones. He really does know real music. Yes. And he knows like what a song is written well. He should do a masterclass on songwriting. Like that's his skill. He should. I don't know that he's like always the best celebrity, you know, people like to clown on him. Uh-huh. Okay. Maybe Taylor was really like being earnest when she said he was underrated. I do think she was being earnest. Like his musical capabilities are so impressive, but he's not the biggest star. Yeah. He's not meant for like stardom. Um, M&Ms, real slim shady. Okay. Nitorious, it was very all of our notorious B.I.G. juicy. Okay. They're making me watch the clip like I seriously can't. I guess we're watching. Oh, okay. Charlie, Charlie, Poo. I've read as long as I've written and recorded. See, by notorious B.I.G. I don't want to miss a thing by Aros Smith or by Diane Warren. Like, raindrops keep falling on my head by birth back. Wow. I'm just taking a second because I know the internet lives forever. I think when I heard the real slim shady, just by Dr. Dre, the snare drum blew me away on that. And probably iris by the Google dolls. It's so subjective. I didn't even mention a James Taylor song. So far, I would have done an honorary mention. I'd say something in the way she moves. Okay. Okay, Charlie. Yeah, no. Like, Taylor Swift was on to something. You know, you're great. Yeah. I'm a beauty. Yeah, he is. Oh, are we talking about the Charlie XCX smartless guy? Yeah. Okay. Do you want to do that next? I do, because I have thoughts and I think it's funny. So smartless is getting canceled. Smartless is over party. And it's shockingly not by us. And I'm actually kind of going to defend smartless. Yeah. No, they're, they're, they're getting a little bit of backlash. Jason Bateman specifically, after pressing Charlie XCX, I'm why she doesn't want to have children. So I heard like a transcription of the, you know, I've read some comments, people being like, Claudian, never let's jack you finish the story. You know what? Like, sorry. Okay. Yeah, let me just give the other people like the information. If they, if they're not as online as well. And this is be taking constructive criticism. Like, I agree with you guys, but don't get like ahead of yourselves. That's all, that's all the constructive. I'll take for the year. Charlie XCX went on smartless as one does. And at one point, they're talking about Charlie growing up as an only child. And Jason then asks her if that influences how many kids she wants to have. Wondering if she wants to have more than one kid or maybe one who has the same sort of experience that she did. And in response, she said, I actually don't want to have kids. Sean chimed him immediately to ask her, you don't wait. Why? Though a few seconds later, he followed up with, it's none of my business. So PC. Then Charlie responded thoughtfully saying she likes the quote, fantasy of having a child, like naming it. It sounds so fun. But like that is exactly assigned to me. Why I should not have one. The fact that that feels like the coolest part about it. And like, maybe I'm not ready, you know? However, from there, things got awkward as Jason started telling a story about his own wife, Amanda supposedly did. No, Tony coded by telling his own story. And one children before she met him and now they have two daughters. He suggests that she might find somebody who will change her mind to to which she replied, well, I'm married. He then joked that he needed to read a newspaper and then he followed up with another joke saying that maybe she'll want a kid with her next husband. Yeah. Okay. So I read like a transcription or like someone paraphrasing it and I was like, yikes. I listened to it and it actually wasn't that bad. I feel like she's not easily offended. And it was like a very honest conversation. Like I actually like to take being like the thing that makes it to me most about having babies being able to name it. Like I feel like that's a good indicator that maybe I'm not like like I shouldn't have kids. And like I thought the whole conversation like sounded worse than it was. And yes, like at a glance, like three men pestering a woman while she doesn't want to have kids. Sure. But like I don't know. I thought it was a funny thing. I did not think it was weird. And I didn't think she was offended either. Yeah. And isn't the whole concept of smartness? I've quite literally never heard an episode that one of them chooses a gas and surprises the other. So like Jason shit. Well, she's in trouble done his research. Isn't that the whole thing? The whole point. Yeah. Right. Do they still do that? I think so. That's what they did in the documentary. And that's as far as my it's not. It's not. It's also like this is just conversation. You know, and it's and it's meant to be like deep. And those are big questions to ask. And if she certainly because she wasn't offended, I don't think anybody should be offended. And if she was, I do think they would have probably cut it out. Although there is a part where I feel like they added it. You can hear like a little cut. Oh, interesting. But I don't know. I just, you can't like walk on an edge shells like and it's a fear like if you're talking about how you grew up. Oh, and other kids like those are normal. If you're too scared to ask a question like seriously, I'm not going to ask. Don't have a podcast. I completely agree. And I think the context of what they were talking about before was also left out when this thing went viral. Because it is important you're talking about being an only child. Yeah. I think a good question to ask an only child is like, do you wish you want for your kids or do you want like that experience and you want to like people ask us that coming from a big family all the time? Like I was talking about that was just making fucking conversation with Josh Patk. He was an only child. And now he has this huge family. Like we talked about in the podcast. So I don't think it's a weird question. I don't think she was offended by it at all. I think like keyboard warriors are. And like don't ever put me in a position where I have to defend smartless again. Okay. Yeah. And Charlie XCX. Because there are like things that Charles canceled, smartless should be canceled for. And then they say that. Yeah. Like being on top of the charts above us all the time. Like that's a kind of little thing. It's disgusting. They're keeping women down. Silence in women. They're silencing women. And I'm defending Charlie XCX too. You see how I did that. I see how you did that. So don't say that I didn't. Nobody said that. Nobody would ever say that. It's like such a silly story and people are really reaching. I agree. Although I am excited. Like I don't know what I don't know that these three know what it's like to like have the internet at their hours. I don't really think this is going to reach a level that will even reach them in any meaningful way. No, it's not serious. No. Even though Judge Garrard wrote it up. But I do think that like men podcasters have this a lot less than female podcasters. Like the accountability police is just a, it's definitely a women's issue. So nobody really cares like when a man says something on his podcast. But I also feel like and I've not listened to an episode. So this is just me taking a shot in the dark. I feel like smartness doesn't really go there. Like I don't feel like they're having like interesting controversial conversation. Yeah, no, it's like armchair expert is always going there. Yeah, armchair expert goes there. He gets a lot of they're the elk of podcasters. Yeah. I don't know what smartness is doing over there. But like I just feel like it's really like it. Yeah. Yeah, no, they do. And so something right, not every podcast has to be sorry. See? Again, a lot of talk controversial like I'm saying. Yeah, hot is taste. Yeah, yeah, or like so thought provoking sometimes people just want to commute home and like get a little chuckle. The toast. But the thing about we go there we do it all. We are so dynamic. We do the chuckle. Oh, no, we're going out of glass. So no, everyone zoom out. But we do go there like we're actually extremely substantial when we want to be. I feel like I go through eras where like I'm so serious about stuff and then some eras where I'm like you guys. It's not that serious. It's not live. Yeah. That's why like the toast is without peer, I would say we are because we do a little bit of all of it. They're smart. We're a peerless spin off show. Here. We have hired by smartless. It would be a smart list presents peerless. The eternity for maternity collection. Obsessed. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah. It's some really beautiful news. Eddie Murphy's son Eric and Martin Lawrence's daughter Jasmine are expecting their first baby together less than a year after tying them up. So in case you didn't know Eddie Murphy's son and Martin Lawrence's daughter are married. I had no idea. Now they're happy. That should have been his documentary because I like fun fact about me is I don't know a lot of stuff about Eddie Murphy ever since I watched his documentary made it my whole personality. And I feel like that's when he was doing like the 20 minute bit at the end about his dumb ass puppets. I feel like that would have been a good time to let us know this. Yeah. I forgot this, but maybe at one point I knew it. Okay. Because it didn't seem like totally random. Um, and now they're having a baby. That's really nice. A lot of pressure for the baby to be so funny. Yeah. Why do you say it's so serious? Yeah. It's really cute. It is really cute. I can only imagine what like the breasts or what a baby shower is going to be like. Yeah. Funny. Funny, funny, funny. Yeah. I love Eddie Murphy. I know. Because I watched his documentary. I don't know if I mentioned that you guys. And you liked it. I never watched it yet. I don't know what just night. Watch the American Idol. Oh, I we almost watched American Idol, but then there was a shark tank and you know Zach loves shark tank. Well, I was watching Jeopardy. Um, in case anyone's wondering, I'd be Ben. Um, and then it was on after. I was like, sure, why not? And it's the auditions, which is my favorite part. After the auditions, I don't really feel like I need to watch. I feel the same way about the voice. Um, it's just such a good show. I do. How was Carrie? I feel like they need a shake up. Wait, I think this is her first season. It's not her first season. It's like her second or third. And I wasn't just referring to her like in general, it feels a little stale. I think it's because you know, Lionel and Luke Bryan have been there for many years. And then it's like a new pop star. It was Katy Perry. And it's just like kind of formulaic at this point. And I am like a little bit over it as somebody who tuned in once. They should bring back Simon Paula Randy. They should bring back Simon. What's old is new again. I don't feel like as a country we've ever been in a better place than we were. When those three were running that table like, like a factory. Yeah. They each knew their roles. Paula was like the fun pop star. Um, Randy was like just sort of the very affable, relatable one. And then Simon was the one who I could really speak the truth. The truth teller. Hey, baby. You got to remember. I'm forever you girl. So I've actually never heard a Paul Abdul song. Have you? Like I know that she is this prolific pop star. Whose music has quite literally never once touched me in any meaningful way. Was that Paula Abdul? So if you were to say to me before like two weeks of name a Paul Abdul song, I couldn't. Then I watched people we meet on vacation and there's like a whole scene. And it's become like if you talk about the movie on TikTok, like you have to use that song. I'm forever your girl. It's Paula Abdul. It's crazy that she got that job. I think if you knew Paula Abdul and her work, you wouldn't think that it was crazy. Really? Yeah. She was a very meaningful. She was. Do you see the trailer for the Michael Jackson documentary? So they're doing the Bohemian Rhapsody Elton John treatment to Michael Jackson. I'm wondering if they'll talk about the molestation. I'm wondering if they will touch on it. The molestation was not in the trailer. No, it wasn't. But that's okay. Um, a lot of like family drama. And it's I think considered like people are really excited about it. Because well, who could play Michael, the greatest, you know, singer dancer of our time? Well, one of his descendants actually, Jafar, we'll be playing Michael. Um, I don't know if I'm going to watch it. Because like one thing I mean, I actually do think he molested those kids. That's just like a crazy thing about me. I so too. And I talked to him and he was very compelling. Oh my God, that H.R.I. Max documentary was insane. Um, I just believe it. And even if like I didn't watch a documentary, like the whole thing of him, like, you know, having the ranch where kids would come, like it's just weird. So just, I'm like not a fan of like the erasure of the molestation perfectly. Yeah. And I feel like there's been like the MJ hologram and the Broadway show there. I was doing things about his life where they're just very conveniently living out the whole, you know, you know, you know, when I see the molestation. I think what people say and they sort of try to make sense of it. Like by saying that he was like, stunts it as a child and like, as a child star. And you probably like, he never psychologically, and he's like, never. And so are you going to show us that in the documentary? Or is it all going to be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, what the hell are you singing? Hey, how are you? Oh, Jackson, yeah. That is the best. What else do I mean? I think we're just saying like Michael Jackson song. Oh, no, I was going to sing Jackson, five songs because the documentary seemed very Jackson, five, Eddie. I wonder if the documentary and by documentary, of course, it would be biopic. Movie musical. If the biopic will cover the influence 13 going on 30 had on Michael Jackson's career. I don't know that he did he live to see that. I actually think he did. Thank God that he loves to see that. Honestly, I'm glad I love to see that. So I feel like the biopic will be very surface. I just want to quickly go back if I were to ever do a Rolling Stone interview and they would say, what are the five greatest songs ever written? I really have to think about it. But I do think that Jackson, five song is up there. It's like the bad song. And that's why I like would buy. I don't even know what song you're singing when you see it. Oh, I like the similarly version. Not, not, not, I'm for you except after see not to bless you legs. But not, not, not, I'm going to teach you how to get a net. You should see my back to back back. I'm going to teach teach you, teach you all about love. Dear, sit yourself down and take a seat. All you got to do is repeat like that is Charlie Pluth should have said that. He is his one. And we're learning. I'll tell you to read me. Hey, you see one, two, three, four. Baby, you and me. You're going to do it. I'm singing it out. Come on, come on, come on. Let me show you what it's all about. Read it. I literally know all the words that song because of Simmerle. That's right. Do you know what I'm talking about? You know, it's a good kids song too. Of course. When we start schooling, you know I'm going to be popping that thing. A lot of good, like, um, Jackson, five, like rock and robin. Oh, yeah. They kind of made music for kids. Yeah. Because they work at school. So yeah, curious at the little station, of course. I feel like they won't even go there. I do. Is it really a biopic? No. And do you want to see that movie musical? So like, that's why I think I'll skip the movie. Yeah, but Miles Tellers in it. Oh, my God. I was shocked when Miles Tellers showed up in the documentary in a wig. Like, I was shocked. Anybody else? Yeah. 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Yeah. It's too bad a bit so good. Yvonne, that was so tough. Just that too again, and that's yvonne. You know what song I really like actually, but I prefer the Glee version, of course. I'm starting with the man in the mirror. Oh, yeah. And he really should've started with the man in the mirror, that Michael, like, change starts from within, okay? Yeah. No mess, oh, no, that's George Michael, that song, I guess. I like that other way. Oh, you know what I love? Sometimes the clothes do not make the men. Oh, we, I love that song. Me too. Michael Jack putting it back. Yeah. Black and white. Say good. It don't matter if you're black or white. Do do do do do do do. You know what? I met my baby on a sat. Maybe we should watch a movie. I was gonna say, I think I have to see the movie. No, like, cause I can hold space for two things. Like that music is really good. It's really good. Wow. He's really good. It's excellent. I think we have to see the movie. It's been a while since we've gotten like a, a, a, a slowly biopic, you know, not something like that. It's like not fun. Like bohemian rap city and Elton, like they were like about the music. Very showman. Like, yeah. Okay, let's do it. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? An miracle has happened tonight. Do do do do do do. You know what? We can also watch the glee episode of Michael Jackson. They did like a themed episode. And is he fat bottom girls? No, that's queen. I like that song. I love that song. And the way like I only know it from Glee, doesn't get enough respect for like introducing my generation. I know so much older music exclusively because of the, I know so much queen. Yeah. I think it's going to be like a queeny Michael Jackson ride home today. Yeah. For sure. Glee version. I only know like bohemian rap city because of Glee. Really? It was when Quinn gave birth in the first season. Hmm. And so it's like, oh, and she's pushing and then they go back. 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So it was just sort of this like, I was actually waiting. Yes, yes. What's the voice? The voice video is being like, okay, everybody wants me to sing. And then like, there would be like a car crash or whatever, like she could, so she was like kind of playing with people. And she could sing. She definitely can sing. She looked like she crushed it. I saw a couple of clips. Obviously I haven't seen the show. All the girls were in attendance. And I was reading a lot of comments. People being like, well, you know, now she's on Broadway. She's a big star, of course, all the haters, McHale, because everyone was really tough on her. The most recent season that we saw, and then she had kind of a banner a year. Yeah. Stars, you know, became this huge cultural thing. Now she's on Broadway. And so of course, it looks like all the girls come running back. I was, you know, proud to say, I do not pile on Whitney this season. I felt like the girls really did her wrong. It was sort of painful to watch at times. Like how poorly she was being treated. Yeah. And so I don't, this isn't like a Whitney come back for me, because I've sort of been here. And like, now I think a lot of people are like, well, like dancing with the stars. Like we were there before, you know? Oh, yeah. We've supported her the whole time and we thought that she should win. But all of it led her to this, even not winning. I feel like maybe if she won, maybe it would have been different. Who knows if she would have gotten this role. She wouldn't she be on the tour or something? Like this was what was meant for her. It's crazy how much like, she's changed in the last year. And how much like my perception of her change. Like when I watch her on the show, it feels like I'm watching a completely different person now. Also Mark Ballis. I feel that way about. Well, traders has not been good for Mark Ballis. I believe. I've not been kind. Jackie's had me a funny text. She was like, what did you say about how he's? I didn't know anything about him. Like when I watch Dancing with the Stars and when I saw him on the Into the Stars. Like I was a little intimidated by him. Like I just felt like he's like very cool and very serious. And he's one of like the most decorated champions. And he's like one of the most popular ones. And he's so apart of Dancing with the Stars lore and history in a positive way. Yeah, and I felt like maybe I don't know. All the drama that surrounded them. Like I don't know. I just like I felt he was like very intimidating. Almost like a theory. Yeah. And then like traders. Like I said, has nothing good. Right. I was like, oh, he's not that. No. And he's just like one of Colton's cronies. Yeah. It's giving follower on traders, which is never a good thing. Yeah. But back to it, Ney, very excited for her. Yeah. I feel like the next season of Secret Lives that comes out will be like when the girls are doing Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, it'll be a little delayed. And we'll see how supportive they are of her in that moment. If they were there for her then, then it's okay that they're here for her now. But then she... I saw McKayla, I saw Jessie. I think I saw Macy. Taylor. Taylor. I did not see. Demi. What? Demi. Not in Sierra, but like I don't think that means anything. Yeah, I think they are friends. Yeah. No, I didn't see Jen. So we'll see how they treat her on this previous season. But yeah, now she's like larger than life. I wonder like not to like, you know, put pressure on her. But like what do you do after this? Do you go back to Utah? Yes, I really hope she does not leave the show. I think it's like, I think that happens a lot. Raysha Jean Paul, like don't leave the thing because it's still a huge show. Yeah. Do not leave. I don't think it would be good for her. Like if I would actually think that's a huge mistake. Yeah. If Taylor Frankie Paul is not leaving, nobody should be. Yeah. Even though do you feel like Whitney, who do you think is most famous from the show? I feel like it's Whitney now. Today it's Whitney. When Taylor's season of the Batchara comes out, it will be Taylor. Yeah, yeah. Because it's always just sort of in this undisputed thing. Like Taylor is the leader of Mom Talk because she started it, but also because she is the most famous. I think she's had the most followers. Yeah. How many followers does Whitney have now? Are we talking exclusively on TikTok? I want to do TikTok. I'll go to Instagram. You go to TikTok. OK. Taylor Frankie Paul has six million followers. That's a ton. Whitney Lay avit has, oh, 3.4. It's like not even a question. Taylor has 2.21 Instagram. And Whitney Lay avit has 1.5. So she's creepy. And I do feel like they're Instagram. How many does Taylor have on Instagram? 2.2. She's creepy. Yeah. I feel like Taylor got a lot of followers on TikTok. For Mom Talk, but now they're all sort of settled. Yeah. Yeah, Instagram is I feel more realistic. Yeah, it's like more like a peep from the show. Yeah. So yeah, definitely not connect. But I do still think Taylor's leader of Mom Talk no matter how big Whitney is. Because Whitney's doing things outside of Mom Talk. Outside of Utah. Taylor's always been doing everything like in-service in Mom Talk. Mom Talk. Yeah. Yeah, very exciting for Miss Lay avit. Oh, girl. Let's dive into Dear Toasters our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I host a segment called Dear Toasters, where our Toasters can write in if they're in need, whether they're going through issues at work, at home, in their relationship with a friend and a wedding party. Email us, DearToasters.gmail.com, or head over to our website, dottoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little box that says Dear Toasters. Both methods of submission are equal opportunity. And they are both completely anonymous. So you never have to worry about that. Oh, you ready? OK. Dear Toasters. After my husband's mom died three years ago, we had to take in her cat, or she was going to be put in a shelter. I love animals. But this cat is the worst. She taxed my other cat. She pieces in places out of spite. She scratches, like, ruins my doors and walls. I have a black lab, a dog who's terrified of her. I am seven months pregnant with my first child. Is it wrong of me to want to get rid of my husband's dead mother's cat? No. And I would have said this even before you said you were pregnant. But now that you're pregnant, it's sort of like what you say goes. And I'm sorry to your husband, but his mom's cat has to go. No. And you can't have a wild, fero animal around when you have a baby. I've also heard that cats can be unsafe during pregnancy, because they carry some germs that are not safe for the cat. Yeah, but she has another cat that she loves, so she shouldn't bring that up. OK. Because all right, we'll have to get rid of both cats. Yeah. I would definitely seek out a family member on your husband's side, like, worst case, if you don't want to give him an initialter. So like, I would really work to find. And of course, this is your husband's problem, not yours, finding a safe home for him, rehoming and during pregnancy and early childhood years. It happens a lot. You're not a bad person because of it. Jennifer Lawrence did it. And this isn't even your cat. So definitely, definitely get rid of that cat. Yeah. You can't have a wild animal around with a baby. Yeah. And I also feel like it's spirit feels cursed, you know? And you want to, we're in your nesting phase. Yeah. You want to sage the home positive, clean energy. And it doesn't sound like this cat is providing that. No. And so when it comes to bringing it up, like, just say it, like, you don't even have to cushion it. Like, you're not even being, we're about land-raising, all right? No. And like, you're not, this isn't like a democracy, you know? This is happening. It's a predocercy. This is happening. Yeah, right. Get on board. Get on board. Yeah. Start making arrangements. Yeah. All right, next up, that was easy. Hey, Swellies, I went to the dentist recently and I was seen by a new dentist. I couldn't help but notice this man was extremely attractive. And he seemed to be around my age. I am typically shy. I do not like going out of my way to express things like this or make the first move. So how do I go about seeing if he's interested in me? Should I follow him on Instagram? Is it weird if I have my roommate, DM, him for me, and Kisa goes poorly? Because I still want to go to the dentist. He's also private on Instagram, so I don't know if he is a girlfriend, sincerely a shy toaster. I feel like you've written into the wrong show. We are too married ladies. No, no, I don't know how to help you because I'm always about putting yourself out there. There's a time and a place, but I don't know why. This feels like a hard one. Well, it is a little radical just in terms of like, you know nothing about him. Like, before you make any sort of contact, you absolutely have to find out if he's married because Joys, you're time then. And I think there are ways to just Google it. Google his name and registry and see if there's like a registry come up. Anyways, find a mutual friend, check Facebook. Like, there are ways. You have to do that first. But I do love your approach to, like you can't just sit around and wait for life to happen for you, especially in this day and age, I feel like, you know, I'm always quoting Scott Galley. He talks about how men as a gender deteriorating. They're less and less viable. And they're certainly not asking women out. It's just not happening. I don't know how people are meeting people, but it's not in the way that they once were. And I think a lot of women are kind of forced to take matters into their own hands. And I do think that's what's happening to you here. And so I want to support you. So I'm trying to give sort of tactical advice. You have to find out. You have to find out. I think also he, even if he thought you were cute, like I don't think he could make the first move. Because that's like probably violation. I think DMing with the friend, no. No, no, no. I think you kind of have to put your cards on the table and be willing to change dentists. Of course. And it's not that hard. Dentists are, like, there's not like he's a neurosurgeon. Like dentists are, there's one on every block. You could find another dentist. You have to say that dentists aren't smart. That's not what I was saying. But I do think you need to be more specific when looking for a neurosurgeon versus a dentist. I'm thinking of what I'm going to say next. And I think you've like stepped in some media. Yeah. Because that's not what I was saying. Like obviously you go to dental school. Like you're really smart. Oh, I hear you. But it doesn't sound like you've crazy. I've got a problem with the conversation in your half-due apologize. I'm fighting for my life over here. I just didn't want to insult dentists. Like I think it doesn't sound like even a complicated dental history. So if you need to find a new dentist, it's not a big deal. OK. OK. It's not a big deal. So you need to be willing to lose your dentist. Yes, you do. And instead of a new dentist, why you've grown it for five minutes in your Maritime as a dentist, it's fine. Yeah. It is fine. And so I think you do have to just sort of, this is so see it. And you said your shy, put on the confident person out or where and go up to me. At the next appointment. At the next appointment, you're fine. At your final appointment. Are you seeing anyone and see what he says? I would love to grab a drink sometime. And even though that's not me and it's not you either. Because that was really good though. Not you. Right. I just like, I'm in a costume of confidence. Wait for the appointment to be borderline over. Like his wrapping up. But is there like a hygienist in the room? They're always ruining vibes. Like, no, not to say that dental hygienist. And you're not a lying. Of course, that girl gets in line. Everyone wants hot dentist. But will everyone do it? I not everyone has what it takes to get the hot dentist. You have to be prepared. You have to have your next dentist on your mind. Yeah. And instead of asking your friend to do that, I'm asking your friend who her dentist is. Yeah. You have to just pretend you're someone else. Yeah. And say like, hey, what do you want to grab? You need to be kind of crazy. Yeah. And the crazy bird gets the world. We're at an inflection point. And you have nothing to lose except a good dentist. In culture, we're at an inflection point. Like in hetero. Normative? Hetero relationships. We're like men are not asking women out. Like men are not leaving the house. Like they are these sort of like crazy creatures outgallway on the podcast. I actually would love to. Great. And then we should put it in a way you. I'm curious to see them. Kind of how we did like that episode with Chelsea Handler. And like we wrote, like people, the ones we chose were like very specific to Chelsea. We need to write in about like men who are suffering. Like and how the wives can help them. And maybe we can get it sponsored by State Farm. And it can be called deer farmer with Scott Galloway. OK. Or we just have our loyal sponsors. And not, you know, not yearning for the ones who left us. Pine for State Farm. Yeah. I don't I mean, State Farm is great. Come back anytime. I pine for deer farmer. Yeah, I know you do. But I just feel like they're, what about farmers insurance? Farmers insurance. Are they not owned by State Farm? Don't you feel like that's a weird coincidence? Yeah. They kind of like appropriating the farm. Yeah, it's like a cheetah rant. No, but like farmers insurance is a chance for farmers. No, it's not. So it's not. I'm cracking up. It's just insurance. I do share. I'm not. And like that would make sense, but I'm almost 100% sure. And then it's like, what does State Farm know about farm? Do you even know ball as the children say? Is farmers insurance only insurance for farmers? Question mark? Not only, but like mostly. No. Despite the name, it's a large insurance company that sells policies to all kind of customers. Auto insurance, home insurance, renters, life, business insurance, umbrella liability, motorcycle, RV. OK. So they can do to your farmer. Yeah. How do we get here? Oh, so yeah. You have to be prepared to find another dentist, and you have to the next time the appointment, find the right time, wait for the appointment to be over, because if he says, oh, when you also have to find out if he's married or has a girlfriend, because then seriously, it won't be fine. Yeah. And I just feel like he does. Do you know what I mean? I feel like dentists are usually spoken for. Well, also dentists would be wearing rings, right? I don't know why they're going to bring their ring into your mouth. And a ring is really dirty. I actually hope my dentist is not wearing a ring. You know, when he wear gloves. Oh, yeah. Love. Yeah. No glove, no love. I think, yeah, you know what? Someone's going to get this dentist, and why not you? No, I love your brazen approach, especially you sound like somebody who doesn't know the shop. No, she became unbrazen when she started talking about Instagram DMs. Oh, that's by the way, I think you're not cut out for this. Of all the things you wrote in, that is definitely the worst idea. Like, do not do that. Don't bring any part of Instagram into this. Agreed. Unless it's like stalking. Yeah, unless you make a fence. I don't even think your friend should follow him to go to his website. When they say, like, about us, I'll have a picture. If he has a wife and kids, the picture will be there. Yeah. And if your friend follows him to find out, he might think the friends cute. Oh, yeah. Only your ugly friends. Yeah. OK, you ready for a third and final. Hey, Jackson Turd. How you doing? Do I have to tell my boyfriend that I'm on a Zem Pick? I've always been an athlete. Into working out, I just need a little help to get rid of some stubborn weight. I'm hesitant to tell him because he and his family are very holistic when it comes to health and wellness. The context is that we both live in the same city, but we do live separately. So I'm not worried about him seeing it in my fridge. We've been dating for almost two years, and the only person I've told is my best friend. Am I OK to keep this huge secret and not telling them that I'm on a medication? Or is it OK to live my girl's squarely skinny life in private? Ooh, I've got angel and devil on my shoulder. Me too, because my initial reaction is, like, good luck if your life don't tell me. If your life, he's just the boyfriend, do what you want. I hate to be so extreme like break up with your boyfriend. He's gay. But if you can't tell your boyfriend, like this thing that means like that you want to do for your own reasons, it doesn't affect him at all. Like, I don't know, it kind of sounds like he's not a supportive boyfriend. Well, no, but he might be like holistic. And like, you just have a different, you guys just disagree about that. And that's fine. And that should still support it. But that doesn't mean that you should break up, but you also might not even want to go there and like have the talk about it. And you're entitled to like your privacy, your medical privacy, you don't have to like tell someone everything. However, on the other side, I'm like, I want to know what medications my partner is on. I feel like that's a fair thing to know. Oh, that's an interesting thing. To say, I think I agree. I've never thought about it before, because like Ben and I, like, we'd be with the door open. We're very, like, there's nothing. And that's your like, you would never not, with your husband, I would want to know medications that my partner's on. I feel like that's a fair thing to know. But I also feel like, you know, you're about your choice. I'm fine with her doing it, but I don't, I feel like then not sharing it. It's a good, bad precedent. And also what, you're going to hide the thing in the fridge every time. And then what if he finds it? It's not that you're taking those out. And then you act like you're doing something wrong. From him. When you, when you, when you high in light, it's because you're doing something bad and you're not. Yeah. I actually think it might be a good test for your relationship. Like this is something you know he fundamentally disagrees with. Can he be supportive of something you want to do for yourself? And can you just like handle disagreement? I do think you should tell him for those reasons. I think so too. You don't want to have secrets between you. No, it's never good. And if it is a deal breaker for him for whatever reason, then the deal is broken. Yeah. And if he can't be supportive of something that he just doesn't agree with, but that's like, it's not like you're doing math, right? Like it's just, it's a medicine a doctor would prescribe it. So if he can't be supportive of something that he might, you know, have a different value on. And like that's not a good sign. Yeah. Not everything you're going to want to do, he's going to agree with, but he should support it. Yeah. And I think, I think if he is like a good guy and you guys are meant to be, like I think you might be underestimating his capacity for change and open mind. Or not even change just like being understanding. Yeah. You have to agree with everything your partner does and says, but you do have to respect it and support it. Yeah. But if he is so setting his ways to the point that like he could not support or be with you if you're on ozempic, then that's something you should know. Agreed. It's kind of like a good test for your relationship two years in. Yeah. That's a big disagreement to have. It's not, I don't think, a deal breaker. Deal breaker. But you're allowed to have different philosophies on it. Yeah. And I don't think you should keep secrets. Yeah. Like that. Because then it's like you're doing something wrong. You don't want to feel like you're doing something wrong. You don't want to feel like you're hiding something from him. And on his end, like I think he has a right to know medications that his partner's on. I agree. A two years. Yeah. Yeah, two years. You don't have to like lead with it on the first date. No, of course not. Well, that's our show. A great Tuesday. I've had a blast being with you, singing Michael Jackson's greatest hits. Yeah. And I've had a blast with you guys, the toasters. Are we showing up? We really appreciate it. Showing out. We appreciate it. Um, cancel smartless. Thanks to the actual scene to the toes. I'm learning when we show we get to the smartless stream. Pureless wherever you get your podcasts. I'll leave you with that. Have a great day, guys. Love you. Bye.