‘There’s Something About Mary’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

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How long had you guys been together when you saw this? The first summer we were together. Oh, wow. The first movies you guys saw together. Yeah, one of them. Did you think of it like a test in any way? Like if she likes this, we're good. You know, I didn't think of that at the time, but I do feel like I was probably destined to be with somebody who would have laughed during a lot of this movie. Right. If you're sitting next to somebody who's like, uh, probably a bad sign. What about UCR? Where did you see it? Still one of the most memorable theater going experiences in my life. I saw this one, I believe in Boston. I think almost as soon as it came out and it was like, it was like watching like people go through like a religious experience, like falling into the aisles, people crying like sodas and popcorns flying in the air. And that's that kind of two track mind you have watching it where you're laughing at it and you're also like, I can't believe they're pulling this off or I can't believe they're going for this. So yeah, just definitely like burned into my memory. I vividly remember seeing it for the first time. I saw with 10 friends. It was in the summer of 98. I was 15 turning 16 and it was like going to church for a bunch of teenage boys. It was like the apotheosis of what was happening in comedies at this point. Yeah. And rock is laughter. I think as I look at the movie now, which I still think is so funny. I actually don't think it's really lost an inch of how much it makes me laugh, but I don't think I really understood what the movie was. Trying to accomplish at all. Like I could only react to the set pieces. Like I wasn't thinking about the ideas. I wasn't even thinking about the weirdness of the characters. And so it's funny that it still has the power that it had when I was with 10 other dudes in a movie theater. It was a really weird rewatch because I was like, oh, I'm going in and it's frankenbeans and it's hair gel. And I was like, is Matt Dylan in this movie one of the greatest comedic performances in cinema history coming out? I was like, this guy is throwing a perfect game in this movie. Yeah. I remember Goldman wrote about this in a couple of different ways, but he was obsessed with this movie, how like smartly constructed it was. He did the more adventurous screen trade and did a whole thing about the zipper scene and just how brilliant it is. I think that's what it's been on a million times. I always get sucked in the structure of it, how smart it is, how well constructed it is from start to finish. How good the character is in like we had the D on Waiters award. It's probably 10 D on Waiters in this movie. And they're all coming in hot and the movie just doesn't let up. And I don't think it peters off at all. No. The first hour is probably a little funnier, but I think it just rides. And then you have like great performances, including Cameron Diaz who was like became an A plus lister after this movie. The funniest thing about watching it this time was how gutsy it is for Stiller to basically do this movie and the entire film is him reacting to stuff. It's like it is the most straight man lead performance in a comedy that I can think of in a lot of ways because it's so thankless. He's going to basically get his balls caught in a zipper. Yeah. He's going to get a flow is load and he's going to get like run through the ring or this entire movie and everybody else is going to get the The fricking about rest stops. The bathhouses of the 90s. Hey, wait your turn. Dude, Jenkins in this room, but it's just a great lead performance because he's just like, I'm going to let everybody else cook while I move through this movie. But by the same token, you can feel him making a choice that's like, I found my movie star persona. Yeah, this is the movie that unlocks the similar kind of character he plays in like 10 consecutive studio companies after this. So it's actually really smart on his part because before this, you know, he's in some interesting movies and he's still trying to figure out he's balancing a lot of these like independent dramas the same year as permanent midnight, same year as less than zero. Don't forget your friends and neighbors. Your friends and neighbors. Jason Patrick. Tell him a long story about the guy in high school and he's already directed reality bites and he's had the TV show, but he this isn't the guy from meet your meet the parents, you know, this isn't the guy from night at the museum yet. So I was going to do this later, but we can do it now. He had not carried a movie yet. He was Ben Stiller show reality bites heavy weights if Lucy fell flirting with disaster directed the cable guy the year before he did episodes of friends and Larry Sanders. He was the second lead of zero effect in 1998 with Bill Paulman and Ryan O'Neill. I don't know if I shot owns it on 4k really funny movie really. Yeah, it's like a detective comedy that's played very straight, but I didn't think Ben Stiller could lead a movie. I didn't know what he was and he goes from this 11 year run of there's something about Mary and meet the parents Zoolander Royal Tannenbombs along came Polly Starskin Hutch Anchorman dodgeball meet the Fockers heartbreak kid Tropic Thunder. Just all in a row. Yeah, and he becomes the biggest comedy star we have, which I think the odds in 1998 of like our next giant comedy star will be Ben Stiller would have been 100 to one. No, I never would have guessed it. He was doing things outside of movie roles, though. Like he was hosting the MTV movie awards and he was doing that the famous the Tom Cruise stunt double thing. Oh, yeah, he was doing. He was doing. He did have cool guy cool comedy guy energy. Yeah, yeah, he was making himself known. But I almost could have seen him having like a secondary like Albert Brooks type career where it's like kind of a fringe character who directs his own stuff, but it's like a very niche kind of thing for him to be this this mainstream is pretty Well, that's why your friends and neighbors is so interesting because it almost seems like he's wondering if he should be a serious actor. The permanent midnight. Yeah, yeah, both. Both of those are very tough. Yeah, very serious, like looking at like sexual perversion among couples, like addiction. Like he you can feel him trying to figure out like what's the right path for me, which ironically, John Stewart was a little like that too. He was and he was one of the runners up for this movie, but he was also like, am I an actor or what am I still? I remember when he was on SNL for like the all time cup of coffee. I didn't even think it was half a season, but did Eddie Munster and he did a Tom Cruise and. People knew he was still our Marys kid. I never saw the Ben Stover show. I'm not going to pretend. I was like, oh yeah, I didn't even really remember that happening. That was on Fox. Yeah, it was on Fox. It kind of came and went and it wasn't until reality bites, which we talked about. There's some funny stuff on that show though and it had, you know, across Nodin Kirk and Jean Garofalo. It had a bunch of people who went on to be like, did have like a crazy writing staff too. I think so. Yeah. Funniest movies of the 1990s. I'm going to give my list from seven to one. Funniest movies of the 19 that you're just going to give this away right now. Yeah. You should put this on such deck. This is going to be the new running joke. Just saying. I can't tell if you like it. You'll have to read it on projections this Wednesday. And number one coming Thursday. Actually, I'll give you a top eight because I bumped dirty work. Dirty work eight. We've done that in rewatch. Hell yeah. Groundhog day seven. Happy Gilmore six. Wayne's World five. Austin Powers two, four. I think that was 1999. Dumb and Dumber. Tommy boy. There's something about Mary. That's what I have. Sorry, Billy Madison was not on the list. Was not. That's my top eight. It doesn't mean that the shouldn't have had 20 movies, but I think Mary was one of the fun. I think it was the funniest with 90s leading me to my next list. Funniest movie by decade. Oh, how far back did you go? 70s. Okay. They didn't know comedy in the 60s. Pl funniest movie of the 1930s. Go. Is that bringing a baby in the 30s? Sure. Yeah. 39. Got it. Is it 39? I don't even know. I think it is. I think it's for the 70s. The funniest movie, the 70s. Funniest movie. Slap shot. Interesting. Yeah. But here's I, my comedy tastes tend to go more towards character stuff than it is like Tommy boy. Like, I think I would say young Frankenstein is probably my favorite. All right. I had animal house. 1980s. Caddy shack, naked gun and airplane were my three finalists and I need more time. Those were the three I had. When will you be deciding? Maybe like seven podcasts from now. I'll let people know where I land. You should be doing a part with Van and Joe and be like, just want you guys to know I've decided I talked about this with Chris and Sean. I don't know if he knew, but three weeks ago, 90s, Mary, 2000s gets really hard with Anchorman, super bad in the hangover. And I don't, I need more time to decide on that. I think it's Anchorman too. The hangover, which, you know, has many complexities in this day and age did have a very similar feeling to this movie. Yes. And then there's where it was like, this is a rock concert. Yeah. Like when he, like he gets tased in the hangover, you're just in the face. Not at the table. Carlos is still the funniest thing that's ever happened. Yeah. And then 2010s, I actually think it's bridesmaids. Is stepbrothers 20 cents? No, that's 2000. Oh, that's so stepbrothers could be in the 2000s too. What's your 2000s movie, Craig? My God, I have to pick one. Yeah. Now quickly, Bill gets to wait seven weeks. You go now. I mean, Anchorman, I think has like the most quotes that I've taken with me throughout my life. And then maybe super bad in forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, yeah. Most of us, it's impossible. Stepbrothers and hangover is so good. You almost need more time with it. I do think it's bridesmaids for the 10s. Use any time. That would be good. Bridesmaids is so fucking funny. Yes. Like it's like clearly the champ of that year. Anyway, I don't know if you had any quibbles. Wasn't prepared for this. Do we have a 20s? Do we make comedies anymore? Do we have comedies anymore? What happened to comedies? Yeah, we just, well, Craig and I were just talking about one that's coming out in June called The Invite, which was pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah. Seth Rogen, Olivia Wilde, Edward Norton and Penelope Cruz. God, what is the funniest movie of the 2020s? How sad is that? We can't even think up top of our heads. There was just a big, big-ish comedy, small-ish comedy this year. What was the 2026 comedy, the one comedy? Well, then the naked gun remake came out. That was in 2025, yeah. Which you said you were not. A comedy this year that did well. Yeah. Well, the drama's pretty funny. Yeah. Is it? I haven't seen that. Not Step Broke, it's funny. Not a different kind of funny. Cool festivals, thank you guys. It's a movie that made $100 million. It's been out for like weeks. You could have just gone. The drama? Yeah. It's the fucking basketball playoffs. I'm not going to go in the movie later. It was out before the basketball playoffs. It was Pattinson and Zendaya. You're the consumer. You're the guy who's got four screens. I'll say it when it's on a streamer. Did you see Netflix's new film, Hoops I Pooped My Pants, and also killed my daughter's boyfriend? Does that exist? If you go on public with your... That's a great title. Yeah. They should do that. But it's like, have you talked publicly about how you watch things called, I'm My Own Mother on Netflix, and you're like, you're sending texts? I've never seen that one. As if you're like, you guys up on this yet? Like me and Shon are sitting around on... I'd like to let you guys know what the common people are watching. Nobody dumps my daughter is something you guys need to know about. Yeah. It's always like... Husband, father, killer. I just stabbed a drifter with a tire iron, and also I found my mom. 2032, nobody dumps my daughter rewatchables. Nobody dumps my daughter is the best title of all time. Just wait till we're new to our rewatchables next year. This movie laid the ground for the 2000s R rated comedy boom. Yeah. Really starting with American Pie and Road Trip, but then old school really officially kicks it off, but I think this pulled the seal off. Comedies cannot be R rated because they won't make as much money. This movie made a shitload of money. See, I thought of another movie that I chose for my double feature, but I feel like it's in concert with this, which was American Pie. I felt like it was American Pie came one year later, and it was like those two summers. But did American Pie, part of the reason it pushed the envelope was because this movie pushed the envelope and they were like, no, maybe he can fuck a pie. Yes, totally. I think it did help. Yeah, I think that's right. The stories about the test screenings for this movie and how the Farrelly brothers were like completely open to the idea of like maybe this will be too far and maybe this will work. And then them showing it and Peter churn and just being like, yeah, don't change a thing. I was disgusted, but don't change a thing. Right. Well, they filmed the two different versions of the hair gel. You know, that was the deal they made with Camerideas. It will have this too. And if it doesn't work or however they did it, not knowing if people would be like, that's disgusting. I'm leaving. And it was the opposite. It was, and if you watch that scene when it cuts to her with the hair, like not a lot is happening in the dialogue because they know how fun it is and know everybody's going to be laughing. So it kind of does even matter what they're saying. I have no idea what's said in that scene. Camerideas who did the mask in 1994 out of modeling. It was like the first thing she ever did. 1996. She's the one which I consider the dream team too. A lot of people think it's the Olympic team that year we had. No, Shacken. No, it's actually it's Burns gets anis. Maxine bonds, Aniston, Camerideas and Leslie man and Tom Petty on the soundtrack. Don't forget. And John Mahoney, Amanda P. Amanda P. Who else? That's my 1996 dream team. My best friend's wedding. Good film. She's fantastic in that too. Really good. Very funny. And then Mary in 1998 and she becomes a list are ends up in being John Malkovich and he given Sunday. Charlie's Angels, Shrek, Vanell Sky, tough casting and gangs in New York. Maybe that's a redo. Sure. And it just keeps going from there. And she also had high profile relationship Sean with Matt Dylan, Jared Lado, Justin Timberlake and a rod. You know what I've learned? She doesn't have a type. She married Benji Madden. She's just love is love for her. Doesn't matter who it is. She could have fallen for Craig. Could have been anybody. Matt Dylan, Jared Lado, Justin Timberlake and a rod. That would be weird if she fell in love with 13 year old Craig in 1999. How old was I? I was five. Five. Okay. It would have been really weird. Benji Madden. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you're not checked up on her. She's back by the way. She's back. She retired. She was in the Johnny Ho movie, right? And one last year with Jamie Foxx. She was back in action was last year and this year was outcome. Where do you stand on Mary as the perfect girl? Because this movie does a lot of tricks. I think it's the most interesting conversation that's probably come out of the couple of decades of discourse about this movie is how knowing it is about the different ways you can read it. You can read Mary as, I think there's a Dave Ker-Line, the critic Dave Kerr, who said that she was like a fantasy of flawlessness and that everything Mary does is like the exact dream scenario for a guy. Dave Kerr sounds like a fun hang. And then... Very good critic. But then you could also flip it and say that the funniest thing about this movie is how it's the guys who were doing all the acrobatics to like bend their personas to what they think Mary wants from them. I don't know. I mean... That's the ingenious idea of the movie, right? Is that she is supposed to represent this like ideal of male desire, right? Where it's like, she's into sports. She just wants to eat hot dogs. Yeah, she loves beer. She golfs in her free time. I really want to dive into this. Loves football. Yeah. 85. She's in on the Niners early. What is the one point she smells the diamonds? Like, she smells the diamonds. Do you want to come upstairs and watch Sports Center? Yeah. No, she has takes on Sports Center. Do you want to watch Sports Center? She has a fucking great golf swing. It's really her. Apparently they had a golf stand by stand in person. She over rotates, but yeah. And you think so? Yeah. I'll see you with golf tips. Well, I've been in the like the YouTube minds with golf. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I forgot your true passion. Let it go. Let it loose. I've been studying under the tutelage of a man named Mr. Tropicana. Thank you. Who's taught me a lot about. When you say studying, you mean just watching his videos? Yeah, watching his videos. Like you don't know them. Yeah, they'll like get his tips. Great golf swing. Loves meat on a stick. Yeah, sure. Really underrated cigarette smoker in this. Yeah. I don't know if she deniered it. Did you see that? Which is odd for an orthopedic surgeon, even a nightly. Yeah. Just she casually was like checking out people in the Copacabana. What bar was he in? I think it's Copacabana. Yeah. Great person, works with special needs, adults, gives apples to homeless people. I think that just is a guy with a boat. Is he homeless? He's not boatless. Yeah. Was he hanging out on a boat? I thought he was like the doc master. He's in the IMDB as homeless man. Oh, okay. So I don't know what. It's been rude. Maybe it was a miscalculation. But yeah, she's basically great hang, laughing at everything. But the idea that all these guys have to lie about who they are and what they want to get her even though she is the on paper. If only my wife could be like this. Right. That's like the whole genius idea of the movie. These guys are all losers who don't really deserve her and they have to come up with these elaborate stupid ways to get her. That's I think the joke of the movie. Yes. But it's like, I think that there's like, you could probably do the opposite read, which is like, this isn't a real person. So then there's the character work. But I tend to believe the opposite. You know what? In 1998, I was just thinking about the laughter. Yeah. I think we all were. I think we all were. I definitely did not realize that this was a high level stalker comedy in 1998. That is what the movie really is. It's about a bunch of guys that is stalking this woman. That's the funny other funny thing is that you could say that this is like an update of a Preston Sturgis plot, like of like a real screwball comedy. Like you're never going to believe what happens next kind of story. I do think that all the guys are like basically should be in jail by the end of the movie, including, including Ted. I wrote down this is when Harry Metzeli for weirdos. I mean, that's really what the premise and plot of the movie is. Matt Dillon in an all time elite scumbag in this movie. Phenomenal. And was dating Cameron Diaz in real life. Career resurgence of in and out wild things. And there's something about Mary. We just did wild things. He as a kid actor, he was in three SC hidden movies. He was in my bodyguard, which was the first time I saw him. And women just love Matt Dillon. Drugs or Cowboy, right? Over the edge. Yeah. It's kind of all over the place with his IMDb with a lot of twists and turns. He never really done a comedy like this before. He was the original choice for Butch and Pulp Fiction, which we talked about when we did the Pulp Fiction that I think would have been a huge and important thing for him. Yeah. I think he would have been good in that part too. I also, I don't know why he wasn't an entourage is their older brother, why he couldn't have come in and done a three episode arc. Yo, bro, I can't believe you here. I can think of a few reasons why he's got that. Would he be playing Matt Dillon or would he be playing drama? I think he's playing drama's older brother. They are like their half brother. Steve drama or Steve drama? Steve drama. Yeah, Steve drama. I think he's a weird career in the sense that it feels like there should have been a TV pivot to some sort of prestige show in like 2014 that never really happened. And I don't really know what he's been doing the last 15 years, but everybody likes Matt Dillon. Did he not ever do TV? He never did like his version of like that Kevin Bacon show on Showtime or... Eight, nine years ago, he did a Lars von Trier movie called The House That Jack Built, which is a, no, it was a movie. It's like a movie about a serial killer. It's a crazy movie. Oh, I thought it was a split. I never saw it. No, no. He did an Apple show with Patricia Arquette. That was kind of like a crime show, like a noir desert show. Was it a show where somebody dies in the beginning and then you go backwards? I think it is actually. It's called High Desert. Did they solve it? Well, I think they only did a season of it. I remember when I'm watching one. We'll never know. Craig, have you seen that Apple show when somebody dies in the beginning? I think so. Yeah, I saw that one. We don't know who did it, but then each episode ends and then could have been that person. And then there's another season. It's a whole new cast, but there's also a murder at the beginning of that season. It's spiritually under the same umbrella. Yeah, yeah. It's like the same theme song, but a little different every time. And every actor peaked like six years ago, but their agent definitely told them it was going to be a great idea. Yeah, I like that show. Matt Dillon feels like he, he's primed for a white lotus appearance. That's the thing. I feel like if Matt Dillon gets dropped into any sort of cool, if he'd been in beef, anything, people, the reaction would have been, hey, Matt Dillon. Sure. But he's always kind of existed in that world where people like him. I don't know. I feel like he's two movies short, Sean. I know what you mean. You know, it's a little like Mikhail Bridges on the Knicks right now. All right. All right. Just settle down, please. It's only six years later that he's in Crash, which is a joke now, but at the time, one best picture and he's the handsy police officer. And he's good in Crash. Yeah. You like that movie or not? He's good. Not, not, not a great character. Not a good character, but he's the performance. But then after that, here are the movies he makes after Crash. Loverboy, you seen that? Not the Kirstie Alley one. No. Factotum, which is a Bukowski adaptation. Herbiefully Loaded, You Me and Dupree. Oh yeah. Nothing. I knew me and Dupree. Nothing but the truth, the Cape Beck and Sale political drama. Old Dogs with Robin Williams and John Travolta. I don't know. Old Dogs. The murder cycle movie? No. No, that's Wild Hogs. Oh, come on Chris. Old Dogs is about. It's Wild Hogs. Yeah, Wild Hogs and Old Dogs is a killer double though. Um, Takers, you seen Takers? Yeah, the Whills. The thriller with the little walker. Couldn't he have been prisoners instead of ejecting? I mean, this is like, this is a rough 10 years. Is he in like 187 or what, what is the, like the thriller he's in? It's like Anthony Mackie one. That's pretty good where he plays like a. The Whills have come off. Yeah. And he plays like an armored truck security guard. Yeah. That's called armored. Yeah. He plays Mike Cochran opposite Lawrence Fishburne, genre, no Milo Ventimiglia, Skeet Ulrich and Columbus short. Okay. This is like when I, when I texted you guys a couple of days ago with Mark Walberg's IMDB in the 2020s and it's like, when did Mark Walberg just give up? It's seven straight years of just, uh, yeah, it's just, oh, and I thought I didn't realize it was over, but apparently it was. Sometimes I guess that happens. I think it's, I think for, do you want to have the Mark Walberg conversation or the Matt Dillon conversation? Oh, either. Okay. Mark Walberg thing. I think he, he used to work routinely with really interesting and challenging directors and now no longer does for the most part. You know, Matt Dillon was in Asteroid City, the Wes Anderson movie. You didn't see that. It's really briefly though, right? He's a mechanic. He's the mechanic. Um, he's phenomenal in this part. It's really, really funny. I can't even think of anybody else who would have been good in this in the same way. So he's like always likable and interesting and he's a, I think he's a good leading man and all those teen movies in the eighties. But do you think that because he was dating Cameron Diaz, he was felt like more free. He's never been this funny. Like I, like what explains, you know, doos, doos and a half, like his, his facility with the jokes is so good. The cute image. It's gonna work for right. I think the, the, it's always fun when a actor is known for dramatic parts, does a comedy and is in the comedy, treating the part as seriously as he would any drama. But he, Matt Dillon knows how fucking funny this is, but he's like Pat Healy, private eye who falls in love with his own subject. I'm, I'm like 110% committed to it. And even when he's mugging, it's funny. But he's willingness to do it, to put on the veneers and to wear the stupid shirts is just unreal. Or when Tucker's telling Mary all the fake stuff about him, like he killed the guy and he's just in the car like, like just, he just knows the jig is up. He's really great. Do you feel like this movie, like when you, when you were like, let's do something, there's nothing about Mary. I was like, absolutely. Like this is such a singular experience watching this thing. Do you feel like it's second life has been more muted than you would have thought in when you first saw it? I had a follow up related question to this. If you had to guess what number in terms of popularity is this movie for Cameradillas on Letterbox? Interesting. Cause you could make the case this is her biggest and most important movie. I would have said the holidays first. Holiday as a head of it. I'm not going to put you the head of it probably. Charlie's Angels is probably ahead of it because people are dopes. The movies awful. Um, what else? How far is it? How far down is it? 14. That's wild. How is it measured? People's popularity on this app. It's just how many people have starred the movie. Yeah. I think who like it, the ratings, all those things are taken into consideration, but it is, you know, you've got some weird outliers or you've got like fear and loathing in Las Vegas. Like the movie, but like Gangs of New York is ahead of it. The mask is ahead of it. All the Shrek movies are ahead of it. Vanilla Skye is ahead of it. My best friend's wedding is ahead of it. In 1998, you know, we were like, not only is she the new Julie Roberts, she's like the new Audrey Hepburn. Like she's like, this is a person who's on the collision course with mega start. And from 1998, this movie is standing on its own two feet against Titanic, Private Ryan and Armageddon. Titanic, Private Ryan and Armageddon have gone on to all be rewatchables, I believe, all be rewatched by people like routinely all the time. And this, I feel like when you mentioned it to me, I was like, oh yeah, like, but I haven't watched this movie in forever for some reason. I think part of the problem with it, other than there's probably some stuff that people feel like has an age well. It's like big set pieces that people feel like they don't need to see it because they know what the set pieces are. But it's like, oh yeah, there's gonna be the two scenes with the dog and there's gonna be the one, the hair gel scene and there's gonna, you know, the zipper scene and I've seen that. But I don't think it gets enough credit for how smart the script is and how good the actors are at it. It also feels like it belongs to a different generation. Yeah. Because I was looking at the 98 movies that were comedies. There's something about Mary Big Lebowski, Water Boy, Rush Hour, Wedding Singer, Night at the Roxbury, Half Baked, Dirty Work and Baseball. It just feels very 90s, you know. Yeah, but Lebowski has endured. You know, like sometimes movies have endured. We know why. Yeah, I don't know why this one didn't endure. Look at the Coens. Oh, I thought you were gonna be able to. It became, it was a cult movie that, you know, I think grew some legs as the years passed and has a bunch of fun people in it. I had the same thought though while watching it. Whereas like, it has kind of turned into a little bit of an artifact, which is an interesting, for me, it's probably one of the first examples of a movie that when it happened, I was very aware of it. I was consuming a lot of media around it, a lot of reviews of it, magazine stories about it. And I felt like, well, this is just an absolute neutron bomb for a teenage boy. Like this is a huge thing. And now, and I think some of it is what you're describing, but the thing about the stuff that is insensitive or has an age well or whatever is the only people who are doing that stuff are the people who were meant to believe are buffoons in the movie. Like the movie is relatively sensitive to some of the ideas that are, it's portraying for the people who are impacted by it and understand that they're in that world, the family, for example. It's all the guys who are made to be the butt of the joke throughout the movie who are the ones who are insensitive. So like, that can't be the only reason, right? Why it's come down a little bit. I was also wondering like, you know, it's such a sincere movie in so many ways, like the soundtrack, the colors of the movie. It feels very pop. It feels very kind of weirdly optimistic when you're watching it. You kind of have a mild grin on even when it isn't one of the big set pieces. And for better or for worse, so much comedy has gravitated towards, especially on-screen comedy, not only is it on TV, but it's like Nathan Fielder and Tim Robinson and this kind of like, if you're going to do something that's got an incredibly extreme psych gag, it has to be like really weird, you know, like there can't just be like, this is really funny that this guy thought like masturbating before a date was a good idea. But it would be like, then he gets caught by a like a local newspaper if it was Tim Robinson. Right, right, right. Just even Tucker like wobbling back and forth. Something's just like, that's like three stooges, you know, it's just pure psych gag comedy. Fairly brothers did Dumb and Dumber, Kingpin and there's something about Mary in a row basically. But this is the third one. They had to save themselves after Kingpin for this. Yeah, Kingpin bombs, which I had forgotten. Just an all-time classic. I popped it in immediately after watching there's something about Mary. I love that movie so much. That was Ed Dexter and John Strauss, friends of the Fairly's wrote the script, Fairly's bought it, ran with it and they wanted to do something more for adults, animal house style. And they knew this was their last chance basically. This doesn't work. It's not going to happen. We'll take a break and then we'll talk about a couple other things, including the Oscars for that year. This episode is brought to you by McDonald's. Right now at McDonald's, you can get great deals all day with McValue. That's right. Jumpstart your day with the under $3 menu featuring a sausage McMuffin for just $1.50 or grab the perfect lunch with the McDouble for just $2.50. Honestly, nothing pairs with a movie marathon like a McDouble in hand. Kind of love the McDoubles. Get even more value with McValue only at McDonald's. Limited time only. Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher for delivery. So Goldman was adamant that this movie should have been nominated for best picture and that Cameron Diaz should have been nominated for best actress. I'll give you the best picture that year. Shakespeare in love, Elizabeth. Life is beautiful, save and pride, Mariah, and the thin red line. Who are you bumping, Sean? Easy life is beautiful. Get it out. Yeah, people at the time. That also got nominated for director. He won for best actor. Best actress in a leading role. Gwyneth Paltrowin for Shakespeare in love. Cape Lanchette, Elizabeth. Fernanda Manegro for Central Station. Where'd it go? What are your thoughts on that one? It's a Brazilian cinema classic. In fact, her daughter Fernanda Torres was nominated two years ago for best actress. Streep, one true thing. Kind of like when Kobe would make the all defense near the end of his career. I gotta be honest. Automatic nomination. This is the first time hearing of one true thing. Yeah, I don't even remember what that is. Yeah, well, you haven't listened to our Merrill Streep Hall of Fame then. I'm sorry. Oh, sorry Sean. Sorry, it's basketball play. Yeah. What is one true thing? Grinding tape. He missed the drama. I missed the Merrill Streep. That's the one with William Hurt, right? Where she gets cancer. Merrill Streep's character gets cancer. And Renee Zellweger has to come home to help take care of them. Renee Zellweger, I think. Oh, my wife likes this movie. Magazine writer. I know this movie. Very sincere drama. She gets nominated for that. Emily Watson and Hillary and Jackie. But as we've discussed many times on the rewatchable's comedy performances and comedies in general do not get treated with any sort of reverence from the academy. Although I think if this was... It's a little harder to get Dylan into supporting actor because it's Cobern Duval for a civil action. Ed Harris, Truman Show, Jeffrey Rush, Shakespeare and Love Me is pretty amazing in that. And Billy Bob Thornton for a simple plan. So it's hard to know who you would kick out, but that's who I would... Of the actors that I feel most passionately about would be Dylan for supporting actor. That's how I would have had Simple Plan and Truman Show in my best picture race that year too. Well, if they had the nine films, I wonder if those two get added with their something about Mary. So anyway, nothing happens. They don't get nominated for screenplay either. $23 million budget made, $370. Crazy. Fourth biggest movie in 98, Roger Ebert, Three Stars. What's a blessed relief is laughter. It flies in the face of Mannern's values, political correctness and decorum. It exposes us for what we are, the only animal with a sense of humor. We don't know that for sure. I don't know. I mean, cooking. Could have added a half star. William Goldman wrote, my choice for best picture was there's something about Mary. I would have given it best actress and best screenplay as well. The Academy is always ignored to the heart of genres to create comedies and adventure flicks. He just loved this movie. Anyway, categories. Most rewatchable scene, piggyback ride into, he's only 230, huh? He's just like his back's destroyed by Warren. Just the noise of his back cracking when Warren jumps on it is very... I don't know when we want to talk about Warren, but... W. Earl Brown. I think Warren's incredible in this movie. I think it depends on what maybe some of your background is with the special needs community. We've had, my wife has that in her family, her uncle David, my dad worked with special needs people for 15, 20 years. I love the way it approaches the whole concept in this. You're always on Warren's side. I feel like they're not making fun of him anyway. He's just a comedy machine. But then as the years pass, it became the fairlays have even talked about. I think it's just the issue of casting somebody outside of that community. The fairlays basically, in the 2010s, they were like, look, we tried a million people. This was the best performance. It was the key part by the 2020s. They were like, yeah, we blew this. I get it. It's a complicated thing because that was not how people were thinking about it at the time, that that's who should be cast in these parts. That's changed pretty dramatically in Hollywood. It's really hard to come down on it. But like I said, the only thing I like about the movie is, is like, the movie's not making fun of Warren. You could misconstrue it though, if you were a teenager, I will say that. It was pretty easy for people that I knew to misunderstand what the movie was trying to do. I know people who also have like special needs, family members, what have you, who were upset by that. But it's just interesting. But it's just, it depends on your personal experience and your taste level and your, I think also like, it's a very different experience. Watching this movie in a theater and 350 people are clearly laughing at Warren. And you're like, that's fucked up versus like watching it at home and being like, I see what they're doing here and how they're kind of, they're not, they're not, they're celebrating this guy. They're not like making fun of him. Yeah. And the Fairleys who have done this in a lot of their movies about all types of people and them and all different types of handicap people. He's actually the key to the movie because, He's the trusty, he's the barometer of which guy works. Him trusting Ted is the most important thing that happens in the movie. Who's good for Mary. Yeah. And they built, they built it up. Anyway, the prom invites really adorable too in that first scene. All right. Ted shows up to take Mary to the prom. This is just an unbelievable seven minutes, five minutes, whatever it is. This is my most fun part about rewatching it is I'd forgotten Keith David and Markey post. Just crushing it. Yeah. Keith David. The wedding photo. Flawless, flawless in the scene. It immediately got like my energy up just watching him fucking with Ben Stiller. The wedding photo of them from the seventies is funny. Which was clearly taken like one minute before they started shooting. Mary comes down the stairs and Keith David goes, ah, shit. Look at that. And then Warren attacking Ted is so fucking funny. Him going to the bathroom. She's a dental hygienist. She'll know exactly what to do. And her answer is to get back team. And then when she sprays the back team. I don't know what the technical name is when you're doing comedy to just like keep adding layers and layers on top of the same punchline where like, and then the fireman and then the cop. It becomes like naked gun for a second. Climbing him through the window and the fire department shows up. It's so good. And Warren's throwing 110 because he hears the Franks and beans. He starts yelling Franks and beans. Though he was masturbating as hilarious. Letting Clark pops in and out of nowhere. This is just an A plus comedy. Sure. It's just, I just have no notes. Every part is great. And even when you see the zipper for a split second, they don't stand it too long. It's like, oh, oh. Also just the decision to have every actor just be like playing their teenage self. You know what I mean? Like not having kids play the parts anyway and having stiller as a teenager makes his character so funny immediately. Yeah. I think Keith David especially wanting to like get in there and take a good look at it. I think he puts his glasses on. He cracks me up. It's just the perfect comedy scene. And then it goes right into the therapy appointment with our guy Richard Jenkins. This is like a dark horse for me, but Jenkins is unbelievable. Look at the food in his mouth. Slowly creeping back. He doesn't have anywhere to wipe his hands. Brest areas are homosexual. Highway rest areas are the bath houses of the 90s. Bath house of the 90s is one of the funniest ideas of any comedy. For many, many, many, many games. Is the insinuation when he's like, we'll talk about this more next week. Isn't that he wants to talk about it? Yeah. We'll delve into that next week. This is his only scene, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like uncredited. I think he like lived in the area and they were just like, do you want to do a day? There's a funny cutaway to him in the montage at the end too where he's like rubbing stillers back from behind. That is also very funny to this joke. Jenkins like underrated comedy actor. Yeah. Speaking of stepbrothers, right? The therapy appointment with Jenkins. And then the next one is Healy lies to Ted about Mary after he comes back from Miami. She's about to do Stoose and a half. Ted, don't you want the name of the housing project? Just that two minutes is really great. My favorite part of it, I'd say about a do Stoose and a half is when he's like, not bad. Healy ropes Mary in at the golf course. Every part of this is, my real passion is my hobby. He says that I work with retards and she goes, isn't that a little politically incorrect? Well, the hell with the hat. No one's going to tell me who I can and can't work with, right? We got this one kid, Mongo. That scene is out of control. I love those goofy bastards. He's plenty of room to dig. Yeah. That kid is really blossomed. I don't know how they did that scene. That scene's unbelievable. The crazy dog scene when Puffer passes out. Passes out. He dies. He fucking takes him back to life. That's also got Healy telling them in Nepal, the villagers there called me kindan tea, which means noble man who is loved by many animal who in kind he loves too. The hitchhiker scene, where do you stand on that one, CR? Seven minute abs? 11 out of 10. People don't know about Harlan Williams. Yeah. Do you know about Harlan Williams, Craig? Yes, because the movie where he's the astronaut was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I'm blank. What's the name of that movie? Space Man? Is it Space Man? It's Space Man. Seven. Step into my office because you're fucking fired. Seven's the key number here. Think about it. Seven eleven. Seven doors. Seven man. That's the number. Seven chipmunks twirling on a branch, eating lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea? Rocket man, by the way. It's like you're dreaming about Gorgonzola cheese. It's bree time, baby. He comes in hot. Dan Waiters is going to be impossible. The Joe Jackson scene with the flag football spikes the ball exceptional by S. He cheats and checkers. And then he goes right and gets his teeth capped because he overheard her talking about big way teeth. Chris Elliott goes to see Ted is the next one. You choked the chicken before any big date, don't you? Tell me you spanked the monkey before any big date. You got baby batter on the brain. You're going out there with a loaded gun. I do love the most honest moments in a man's life is the few minutes after he's blown it's load. It's a medical fact says that we get the hair gel scene. The cut is great to the hair. We get puffy and Magda going bonkers on speed and then puffy attacking Ted. I like when he throws the fourth one. He's like, you're going to kill him. Don't throw another one. He looks at him and just whips another one out. We get the big confrontation when all the stalkers are all together and then the closing credits are really good at this movie. I like how much foresight they put into just filming on location as they were finishing scenes and then forcing everybody to do buttercup. All right, Sierra, what do you got? Most rewatchable scene. Man, I'm so tempted to go with Richard Jenkins, but I think the Healy meeting Mary for me, honestly, the golf. Yeah, that's for me as well. Me too. It's the funniest stuff. How do you know my name? It's written on your golf bag. Yeah. And she's so likable in it too, where it's like it's actually believable that she might fall for this guy. Well, it's also like he's trying to do the game, like I'm going to neg you a little bit and act a little aloof to see if that works. But just that their chemistry is very palpable and outside of the major set pieces, that's my favorite. You know what else is impressive about that whole scene? The first driving range shot he takes. Off the wall. Yeah. And he's off his bag, like kind of hard to do. I don't even know how they did that. Matt Dillon's dad was a golf pro. Yeah. So it's almost like he must have intentionally done. What do you have? That's my favorite scene. I will say anytime Ted and Pat are talking to each other is incredible, but specifically when he's updating him the doos doos and a half scene, there's a moment near the end of it where he gets handed a Budweiser when they're sitting outside and he goes, excuse me, I ordered a whiskey sour. Waiter walks away and he's like, yeah, whatever. There's also that killed me this time when Ted goes to see Pat to tell him like actually he does want to get in touch with her, but Pat's in the middle of quitting. Yeah. And he's just that's the whole like, I'm going to Miami. I got a job with rice. San Francisco trees like while they're changing their image. It was like it was the sumo thing. It's like she's a mail order bride. What do you have from the other one? It's probably the golf scene or I do think any scene in Mary's apartment is really good. The dog stuff. The first time I saw this movie, the dog stuff slayed me. It's like a 13 year old just the physical comedy of that of like pile driving. Yeah. When he puts the dog in the side headlock and then drops him down, that's pure gut busted. Great prop. The dog prop is really good. The dog going out the window. It really seems like the dog's alive. Yeah. Go away from the light. Yeah, him shocking the dog. Yeah. So that's for a butt cake when they ask him if he wants anything. Do you want a Heineken or a Budweiser? What's the most 1998 thing about this movie? I have some runners up being excited about giving somebody a Tony can Aguero sign baseball. Sure. Good one. That had a shelf life of about maybe 2003. Brett Favre. Cool Brett Favre. Brett Favre being a goody two shoes. Yeah. Cool Brett Favre. Any part of Brett Favre? Yep. Got it. Magnus smoking cools. A whole carton of cools. Cool still around. I don't even know what they have. I think cools are still around. I have a winner, but what'd you have? I had just like watching sports highlights at the end of the night being something that you build towards in your life. It's like let's go home and watch game highlights. Picking up Hitchhiker? Sure. That's a good one. I mean, there's a tremendous amount of gay panic jokes in this movie. Like a hundred of them. You would never find that in like to a 2020 movie. Our winner is cops, the TV show being probably involved in a scene. Yeah. That's not the only thing that's happening in that scene. Yeah. Woogie getting his knob polished while watching cops is elite. Completely uncommented on. It's also the last moment the wife is in the movie. The wife, only she's like the ideal crazy perfect wife. But he still assesses me. Yeah. Yeah. What's age the best? Can I say one more thing? Yeah. The way that bad taste is played for laughs instead of like dramatic thrills is something really interesting to me about this movie. Bad taste is a skill and you can display it in a clever way. The Farrelly's always do that. But like now bad taste to the point about the drama or like adding to like then like those taboos are things now that people play for like, ooh, like is it okay to be talking about this? Whereas, and there's something about Mary. It's just pure comedy. Yeah. What's age the best? Rest area is being the bathhouses of the 90s. That joke is just as funny as it was in 1998. I don't know how you even come up with that. Also, from a what's age the best standpoint, just stopping at a rest area. You got like 10 years out of mileage of. Yeah. Yeah. Rest area. Go up there. The musicians popping in, which we did not mention yet, Jonathan Richmond. Yeah. I can't believe this worked, but I really do think it worked. Yeah. I just thought it was a really funny distinct part of the movie. It's such an unlikely choice. Obviously a New Englander, right? So the Fairleys, very New England filmmakers. And, but I can't for whatever reason picture Peter Fairleys rocking out. This is just like an amazing like Jonathan Richmond commitment to a bit because if that doesn't work, you're like, what the fuck? But like that kind of speaks to one of the things I have for what's age the best is the regional specificity of it. They're at Island Boston. Yeah. And the Miami stuff is just like they find a lot of humor in those places. And I think one thing that's really been lost in more modern movies is like, you know, the drama is set in Boston, but it might as well be set in Copenhagen. Like it doesn't really feel like Boston. It's a great point. We've talked about this with other movies. Like we were just better in the eighties and nineties at going into locations. Well, I feel like they just shoot in a couple of places in the country and then they're like, yeah, this will stand in for this or it'll just be any city. And you can get a lot of jokes. I'm just having Lenny Clark in this movie, you know, is like a very annoying wink to the New England and Steve Sweeney. Yeah. Forget about him. You have any what's age the best because I had a couple more. I just think most comedies age really badly. And this one I think is still really, really funny. So it actually makes me laugh out loud. So I have a few because this was a big movie for me and my wife. Magda jokes about anyone, you know, in your life who got way too much sun. Like, oh, veering a little toward the magda side. Magda has just become a 28 year over suntan joke. Markey post. I'm just so glad she's in this movie. Just an absolute eighties icon and a legend and was trying to think her, her NBA example. Like kind of like the Dominique Wilkins of the eighties didn't get her just do. Everyone's talking about that. Heather Thomas, Heather Locklear. Somebody that might be overstating just a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. Markey. Everyone loved Markey post. Yeah. But Dominique Wilkins. What's on the resume for Markey post? What do you mean? Night court. Night court. Right. Night court. Like that's it though. Some killer posters. Yeah. Couple of good TV movies. She went to a dunk contest. Where's she on the all time scoring list? She should have been. She had to head with Larry Bird. So maybe she's more like a Terence Stansberry. I don't know. That's nice. Yeah. She's not wrong. I think she's great. She had an unbelievable Sheer's episode. When she came in as Diane Chambers' best friend from college and hit on Sam Malone. And it might be the single best year's episode. And Diane finally flips out because they're flirting with each other the whole episode. She apparently was like pretty scandalized by this movie. And was like really nervous to do it. But then was very happy she did. Yeah. I'm glad she's in it. I think she's one of the people that really, really, truly pulled off 80s hair. Because she had some real 80s hair. Yeah. For sure. Where you have to have basically the same haircut as Patrick Swayze and Youngblood. Flogging the dolphin for a big date. That's aged well. That's just a running joke now. Flogged the dolphin. That's a bed. That's gone out. Pat Hewitt teeth. Another running joke. Whoa. Some big choppers. The lie that becomes a way bigger cover up lie. I think is aged the best for me. But we grew up with this with 70s sitcoms. And now I don't feel like we do it anymore. This was like the staple of half of the comedy for 20 years. Yeah. I also, I feel like in my life after this movie came out, like if a guy ever came home and was just like, but you know, she lives with her sister or something like that. People would be like, first chicken in the arm or 10. Yeah. Right. What about Brett Farvra? When Stowe says that at the end, the Brett Farvra thing, I think kind of came with him for five, six years. And then people forgot. I like that they have young Camindia as in young Ben Stowe or with the wig and braces. And it actually works and they look younger. Sometimes when comedies do this, it looks ridiculous. It's also something very sweet about opening with that aside from the Franks and Franks and Beans thing and like Ted's, you know, inciting incident is to have that like idea of him as a character, as a kid and be like, oh, this is like this sweet teenage love story. And not just this deranged middle aged man who's like, time for me to stalk my high school girlfriend. Yeah. Well, the key is that he still wants to see her even though she's, he's being told she's the doos and a half. That's right. Tucker calling sex a good Roger ring. I'd never heard it before since, but it always makes me laugh. British slang. Maybe we'll give you a good Roger ring. Is there a Roger ring gag in Austin Powers? I've never heard the phrase Roger ring. Mary's theory that we need more meat on sticks. That's make you wonder why we don't. Can we talk about the corn dog? Let's talk it out. I don't think I've ever seen you eat meat on a stick. Well, what's the other one they have like a long? Well, it's like kebabs, but we're talking about fried ones. Teriyaki beef and appetizers. Yeah. I always like having this stick. Yeah. What do you think there should be more corn dog style? Like should there be like a steak dog of some kind? No, I mean, I just, it's, I was just more surprised that this is something that's aged the best for a bill because I don't often see him indulging in corn dogs. I think the theory age grape for me because I do like corn dogs. They have one in Santa Monica Pier that my wife has stopped. My wife loves hot dogs as you know, but they have a, as you know, I've discussed before. It's a big hot dog, hot dog fan. You must have missed that sub-stat. I know a lot about your wife. I didn't know that she loves hot dogs. She loves hot dogs because the best part about hot dogs is when you have little kids, you get to relive the hot dog experience through the kids. You get hot dogs back, you get mac and cheese back. You're honestly 100% right. I'm going to find out someday. You get all this food, you little mini chicken nuggets. Yeah, one day of things you just stopped eating. I will say it is okay for you to have a hot dog now even though you don't have a child, but what you're saying is true that like they're like a weekly occurrence. People don't go out of their way to have hot dogs unless they're at a baseball game. You know what? My wife and I, I think it was like during or right after COVID would have like, like cookout nights, but it would just be the two of us and I would, we would make hot dogs and I'd be like, it just doesn't hit the same when you're not with a bunch of people. If you're like, we're making hot dogs as our dinner, it feels a little beaten down. It's just, it goes quick. You know, it's not a luxurious meal. When we went to the Giants game a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't decide whether I wanted a Kilbasa or a hot dog. Got them both double fisted. No kidding. Yeah, many people have told me that we really fucked up by not getting the crab sandwich. Oh, really? Yeah. I was so close. I wasn't going to do it. God damn, that really hurts. The lady next to me was like, you don't want us to break that. Baseball stadium crab. I don't care if we're having it on the bay though. We're on the bay. Come on. Yeah, sure. Lots of stuff happens on the bay. Great ballpark though, right? Awesome. Yeah. My last one to say the best is when Pat Healy is pretending he built the soccer stadium and Norm says, you built the Estadio Olympico and he goes, no, just down the street, the Salento, Kelly and Tate Towers. Okay. I have one more, which was when Tate goes to see Wogey Dom at his law office and Chris Elliott's got the poster up that says, bus crash, 12 kids killed. What does that cost us? It's on the whiteboard. During the meeting. This is like insurance adjusters meeting. We didn't talk about Chris Elliott yet. We have a couple spots. You want to do it now? I just think that there's the Lee Evans, there's the Tucker character and then I found Chris Evans to be fucking hysterical this time around. Chris Elliott. I don't know if I, sorry, Chris Elliott was hysterical this time around. It's funny because I was an early letterman guy and he was a writer and they started using him on the show. It was the first time. Initially, he was the guy underneath the stairs and he would come out, he'd like pop up and it was like this running bit. He would interrupt the show as like the psycho who lived in the stairs and then he did the fugitive guy, which was basically every episode would end like the fugitive, but it would be three minutes. But then everything peaked when he was Marv Albert. He would come out and do the Albert achievement awards in this Marv Albert wig. I just thought about all this. I had all the Chris Elliott stock in like 1986. I was like, this guy is going to transform comedy as we know it. This I think was his biggest movie. This is after Get a Life and after Cabin Boy, right? It happened and it didn't hit. He had a bad SNL run. He had like a urine SNL. It didn't really work. This is kind of after all of that and he's still, it's such a fearless performance because Woogie is so gross. All the hives and stuff. Yeah. He tried to do Marlon Brando was another running character. He tried to do Unletterment too, but he was just kept you on your toes. Matt Damon and your trip award for most unexpected A-Lister cameo, Brett Farvora. Great shot, Gordon award. What do you got, CR? Do we just go for the ball shot? It was my first one I wrote down. Yeah. I think it's just the most confrontational piece of cinema I've ever seen. Yeah. It's like several moments in cruising, right? A torsion to testicle. I have a better answer. Okay. Better. Yeah. I think how they hide the giant want to come on Ted's left ear for 12 seconds and so she's like, what's that on your ear and he turns. If you actually watch it, they do a really good job of you only see him from this side. You never see the left ear and so they really spring it on you and I think it's impressive. Yeah. I think it's a lot of leering shots of Cameron Diaz through binoculars in this movie as well. I don't know if you guys picked up on that. I like when he got the bigger binoculars. Yeah. Then sees Magda. But it's like, it's not his binoculars work enough. He needs like the, whatever. Chess Rockwell, Brocklanders award for best character named Magda. I had Dom Woge Wogonowski. Oh, that's good. All right. Keep kind of sure to happen is where best needle drop. You love this soundtrack, don't you? I really like Mary's Prayer by Don, by Danny Wilson. I have Every Day Should Be a Holiday by Dandy Warholz. Guys, it's built me up. Good one. Buttercup, please. Buttercups, the answer, the ending. Okay. Sierra, you have a flex category. Brandy Booth award for the best performance by a pet goes to Puffy. Absolutely amazing dog performance. You know, I don't know how often they were using a dog puppet or dog zombie. You know, like, zombie. Not zombie. Just make you want to get a dog this movie? No. Okay. No, but I like to observe from a distance and it seems fun. Yeah. One of the funniest dog characters I can think of. That's the right answer. Dorfler's door award for how much did that hurt? The beans getting over the frank and the zipper? Ever had a friend who had some sort of, like, injury down there? Honestly, no. I've been thinking about this recently. I think it would have been the most important thing that ever happened to any of my friends if that happened. You were saying about how when you have young kids that mac and cheese and hot dogs come back in your life. The other thing that comes back in your life when you have little kids is accidental nut shots, which like, I just... Or sometimes they're not accidental. You don't seem that actually. I had a daughter, not a son. So I'm fortunate to not get the purposeful ones. Ben had six months where he was just like, this is the one area I know I can hurt him. This is the funniest thing in the world. Yeah. I'll just... And they're like the same height. They're like... And that's like, that's the true human...the true male frailty. Yeah. You surprisingly get hit in the nuts. Yeah. And you're like, I...perhaps I should just die now. There's no recourse from that. So just pump that up. This is just such a great...like depiction of everybody in the 90s and the 80s, I'm sure, had the story about the kid in the other town over who hadn't pooped all summer. Yeah. You know, like it was just like the kid at prom who zipped his balls up and had to be taken away by an ambulance. It's just so...it's so resonant. That's actually what that movie I told you about. Oops, I pooped my pants and killed my daughter's boyfriend. That's what that's about. It's about that kid. I almost said that guy's name on the rewatchable. There was a real guy? Yeah. Well, just say it. Just say it. What's going to happen? Is he alive? He is. He didn't die from that issue. No, but he had to go to the hospital. He did. What'd they do? We forgot to talk about how funny it was when they do the one, two, and then it cuts out. We had a bleeder. It's a great cut. You don't have a zipper story. Do you, Craig? I don't. Fortunately, I don't. If you come up with one later, tell us. So far, so good. I'm throwing in here, it's a book about metals award for belatedly best quarter exchange. I took a job with rice aroni. Isn't that the San Francisco treat? It was. It was kills me for some reason. He's like, no, no, it's over. It's not the San Francisco treat. I really enjoy that. And then the Billy Bats Jack Walter were for most biting and scalable and so come on, cough it up, choppers. Pat Healy won't pay his check right away. I love this one isn't directly to someone's face, but when Pat and Ted are talking and he goes, who roll her pig? Are you nuts? And Ted says, you said she was a real spark plug. No, I said butt plug. She's heinous. You can't forget it's a sumo culture. Ted, they pay by the pound over there. Sort of like I'm doing my favorite Billy Bats is actually far of being like I'm in town to play the dolphins. You dumb ass. Butch's girlfriend word. We click in the film. I got this one. What do you got? Theatrical cut sully the Jeffrey Tambor part. So and this is also because after you've watched like, there's a development, you're like, Jeffrey Tambor is in this movie. It must be like really significant. In the extended cut, he has an entire plot line about him falling off the wagon and being eaten by a Python. But in this theatrical cut, you're just like, why is he in this movie? And what was this whole, what was the point of this? Which one did you watch to prepare for this? I watched the theatrical and then went to the just the Jeffrey Tambor scenes of the extended cut. It's tough to cut Jeffrey Tambor, but I don't think this movie needed more stuff in it. No, he's very funny when he picks Pat up from the airport as well. What did you have for week link? I mean, there's not really like a person that is not good. I have a strong week link. What do you think of Tucker? I like Lee Evans. You're about to go in on Lee Evans. That's your, I have Tucker. Oh, no. It's a nitpick as well. I just don't understand Tucker's plan. Well, okay, but that's a week link. To me, it's a week link. Tucker's plan is the week link. I have that in the category. So he meets Mary, he falls for her. He pays somebody to break his bat with a baseball bat so then she could treat him as an orthopedic surgeon pretenses in English guy with a cane who's, who's basically crippled now from this injury, but he's also delivering pizza on the side and he thinks this is going to land Mary, but what happens when he actually lands Mary? Like he is the worst plan of anyone. Mary is an orthopedic surgeon. Wouldn't she look at new X-rays of his back and be like, your back has been healed because clearly all of it falls apart. I don't understand really any part of it. Yeah. What he's up to, but it's only one of the things you notice after watching this movie 12 times and taking it seriously when it's not meant. Yeah. I just felt like Tucker could have maybe three more hours in the spitball session on Tucker. Maybe Tucker got injured on a motorcycle, Mary treated him and then you'd be, yeah, there's some better versions. I don't disagree. I think he's a little bit turned up. I know the movie's ridiculous, but Sean, what you were saying earlier about how Matt Dillon's character is taking it seriously, Chris Elliott, I feel like he's taking it seriously. I do feel like Tucker is the only character where I'm like, this actually does break the world a little bit. He is like doing something bigger than the rest of the characters in the movie. It's a little more slapstick and screwball than anyone else. Yeah. I also had him for the Ruffalo-Hander Rubinick Partridge overacting award. I was, I was considering that. He really dials it up one of the times. It's weird what happened with him because he was the star of Mouse Hunt. Remember the movie Mouse Hunt in 1997? Did you ever see that movie? And then there's something about Mary and then he's in the ladies man. He was in the fifth element. He was in a bunch of stuff in the late nineties. He was a big stand-up comic in England and then basically never acted in movies again. He's only in a few more movies. I guess the world agreed with you. Wait, what was your weakest link? You just didn't really happen. There's not really an actor in this that I think is bad. In fact, I think it's like overstuffed with way over qualified actors. Do you guys all like the musical interstitials? I personally do, but I'm used to them. I can see why. It's one of the only signals also that there's another consciousness. There's another POV on the story of the movie that's like kind of like tongue in cheek. You know what I mean? It's in a good way. It's like a fairy tale. It's like, yeah. You're just not a Jonathan Richmond guy, apparently. It's okay. I feel like that's such an easy like four minutes that you could take out of the movie. And I don't think she's always thinking about length. Well, it's not even that. I just like those are the moments in the movie where I kind of like, okay, I guess I'll check my phone until they're done. So you don't find it funny when this sniper. That was fine. Sure. Yeah. The gag at the end, maybe it's all worth it for that. But I didn't feel that. I felt like that was a little bit. The second time in, you're like, okay, I kind of get this. Craig, I forgot to ask you what the Horlbeck skill was for this. It's two hour movie. 119 minutes. So we're plus 19. I do think you could probably shave five to 10 minutes of this movie. And it's maybe a little bit tighter. So what would you take out besides Jonathan Richmond? I think I would, you're probably going to hate this. That's sacrilegious. I would probably, I don't think you need the hitchhiker scene. And then I think you could get rid of the musical stuff. And it's probably like an hour for you. No, the hitchhiker scene is, how could you not have the hitchhiker scene? It doesn't have anything to do with the movie. It's good. Listen, he's just Horlbeckin' it up. Can I give you this on the Jonathan Richmond? Uh-huh. Is that the musician? Yeah. The Jonathan Richmond stuff. It walks so the Dan Bann could then run. Fair. With the hangover. And what was the other movie they were in? They were in a bunch of stuff. They were in two big ones. Oh, forgetting Sarah Marshall? No. No, I mean, no, Wedding Crashers? Wedding Crashers, they're in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's worth it if I get the Dan Bann. I think it's a great choice, the Jonathan Richmond stuff. It feels very 90s. I love the Jonathan Richmond stuff. It does. The Hitchhiker and then the subsequent interrogation scene is not negotiable. We do get the kindergarten cop guy. Speaking of which, he was my Ruffalo Hannah Rubach is Richard Tyson, the sweating detective. Just tough. Tough month on the rewatchables for Richard. What did he crush in this movie? We're going to take a bit more break and then do What's Age of Worst. All right, What's Age of Worst? Brett Farvra? Yeah. It's a great casting in 1998. Now it's kind of weird to see him. Yeah. It's tough. Tough times for Brett. Also quarterback the Jets. And then Warren, I think, even the Fairleys are like, yeah, we probably fucked that up. We should have cast somebody who has special needs. Yeah. That's not how they thought in the 90s. Peter said, I wouldn't do that today. I would hire an actor with intellectual disabilities. They're all over the place at that time. They weren't, didn't get the opportunities they're getting today. I don't have any other What's Age of Worst. I didn't really have. I mean, once you go in on the premise of this film, it's a comedy. Sean, you have flex category. Yeah, usually this category is reserved for thrillers and horror films. But when would I have died is not the zipper. It's not when my date's father would have come into the room. It's when the police officer would come through the window. That's when I would have died from zip in my Johnson up in my zipper. Police officer would have intimidated him. I think it would have just sort of led to that. Scared stiff. Yeah. That's what I would have died. Scared stiff. I like it. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. Hot as take award. What do you got here? Is Ted the most deranged of all these guys? Is Ted sitting around? Well, I would rank Tucker first. I think Tucker's the fucking maniac. It's not like here's the mid speed. Ted's lies are just kind of harmless. Does Ted have a job? He's a magazine writer. Yeah. Magazine writer. Yeah. I'm curious what kind of pieces he writes. It's funny. Work ever is like you could just work from anywhere. Yeah. Searing explorations of fascism in the New Yorker. Yeah. He's just like, God, I'm really obsessed with this girl. So what's the case for Ted being most? Well, I mean, hanging onto that obsession for so long that you're still in therapy about it. You horrified her entire family in the course of 15 minutes. Yeah. Like it's not really, I understand why the severity of your injury made you go retreat within yourself, but like you're plenty of opportunities probably to reach out. Yeah. You stalk her. You use a private investigator to go after her. That private investigator winds up lying to you about his results, but then you still pursue her all the way down I-95, nearly get arrested for murder. And yeah, obviously learn some lessons, but I think that there's something about the lengths of what he goes to that suggests he might be like the craziest one of the three. Solid take. What do you got? Ben Stiller is the greatest cuck actor of all time. Wow. Who was his competition? If you need a cuck, if you need a guy, if you need a bitch boy, right? If you need somebody who's like- He makes the most sense. He, not only does he make the most sense, but there actually is like not a second choice. There's not a comic actor who you could be like- I'm gonna humiliate you. The whole premise of the movie is this guy is a loser and will lose all the way until the end and then he'll get the girl. But that's the premise of like nine $100 million Ben Stiller movies. Really good. So, mine is also a casting what if the Farrelly brothers wanted to cast Drew Bletso as the Brett Farrere character and he passed because he had just had this Mosh Club incident, which was a big deal. Who was- What was the concert? They were, I forget who was playing, but it was- It wasn't Everclear, was it? I think it might have been. It might have been Everclear. I think it was in Providence. Maybe it was in Baw. I don't remember what city it was in, but- It was Everclear. Yeah. The Pat's- That's knowledge right there. Him and a couple of Offensive Lyman and it was just bad and it became a huge deal and like the pay- This was- Pete Carroll was the coach. This- The inmates are running the asylum kind of stuff and right around then he got any of his like, I better not do it. My hardest take is I think this is the most underrated thing that ever happened to Patriot fans because if he takes this movie and it makes $380 million and he becomes a little bit cooler, that confidence then goes on the field. And I don't know if Tom Brady ever happens. Do you think that this- Okay. But he still do the Everclear concert in this version of events? He'd already done it. That's why- Okay. Yeah. He just said yes anyway. So you think he does this movie, redeems himself somehow, becomes a huge movie star? Redeems himself becomes- He goes, Jerry McGuire and this, he's got his mojo back. Tom Brady's right there. He's like, you know what? I was in there something about Mary. I made $350 million. I'm not, you're- I'm not afraid of you. He starts dating Cameron Diaz. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't run out of bounds. He just runs out of bounds instead of taking the hit from Mollewe's because he's not like insecure. He's just out. Yeah. In this version of events, it's like Cameron Diaz dates Drew Bledsoe and then Neil deGrasse Tyson and then- Right. And then we don't get six Super Bowls. But have you considered that that level of confidence in Drew Bledsoe could have led to Super Bowls from Drew Bledsoe? Like it's- Very possible. I'm just saying it's an altering universe for the past fans. Would you rather- You'd rather have Tom knowing what we know now about Tom? Super Bowls and I'm fine with Brett Farr being in this movie. But what about six Super Bowls from Drew and then not Tom, you know, not choosing a rooting interest in the Super Bowl, you know, some of the deflate gate stuff, you know- I don't think he could have won the six. Bringing in his health consultant. Maybe one. You know, getting cocked by Giselle Bunchen, like all these things that happened, you know? He'd get cocked by Giselle Bunchen. That video where he kisses his kids on the lips. That was a tough one. Yeah, I kissed this on the lips. Kiss his kids on the lips. On video. You don't get that. Tom Brady rose. What else happened to Tom Brady? Some other stuff? I'm sorry I brought this up. You're maybe not the warmest room to do it in. Yeah. Casting what ifs. Owen Wilson and John Stewart were the other two candidates for Ted. Bill Murray was considered for Pat Haley, but the fairly subtle is too old. Vince Vaughn, Cuba Gooding Jr. also considered for Pat Haley. I think Vince Vaughn could have done this. I think he could have, but I think- I'm glad we ended up with that. There's an element of Vince Vaughn that I think also would have been like a little mug into the camera. Like- Yeah. Is he too tall? He was going to be Ted? It's fun? No. No, it was over Pat Haley. He could have done Pat. Yeah, I think he could have done Pat. And then they also offered the Mary part, the bread far part to Steve Young, but he turned it down to the film's coarse nature. Because he said the Mormons would all come out and see it and that they would reject him. Where do you stand on Steve Young? Always admired that he knew when to hang him up. Yeah. The weirdest one ever. That's why this is my last pod. I did not know this one. Chris Farley turned down Warren. This would have been a real big problem. They couldn't have ensured him anyway. He did dirty work and then he died as they were making the movies. So probably a good miss by all parties. I think that that would have been really distracting. I think that ruins the movie. Yeah. I think it would have been seen as more- It would have aged worse. Yes. Best act I ever heard. Not eligible. Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney, Richard Tyson, Harley Williams. Why are they not eligible? Because I'm making them not eligible. Richard Tyson is not eligible? Do you think anyone- We just covered him two weeks ago. He was crisp. People know Richard Tyson is not. Okay. Right? Richard Tyson. Do I think people know his name is Richard Tyson? No, they probably don't. Fine, he's eligible. I don't. Did you know who played Magda? Yeah, Lyn Chey. Lyn Chey. Lyn Chey. Bob Shea's sister. Yeah. I think it's Danford from Sex in the City, aka Willie Garson. That's right. We're in the long wig with like big sits on it. That's who I had. That's a good one. I think the winner is W. Earl Brown as Warren. He's up there. Deadwood fans rejoice. The master. He was Kenny the cameraman in Scream. He was in Deadwood. He was in the master and he apparently had three years at NYPD Blue. Joaquin's the Joaquin and him getting the fight in the master, right? That's right. Real ones would go, I think Rob Moran, who is in Dumb and Dumber Kingpin and there's something about Mary. He's a bartender in Dumb and Dumber. He's one of the bad guys, Stanley Osmanski in Kingpin and he's clearly a Farrelly Brothers extended player. He's in the troupe and he pops up in a bunch of their movies. He's in Chow Howell and he mess up in Irene. He's the other cop. Oh, that guy. He's Tyson's partner. Oh, that's a good guy. Deion Waders. Our nominees include Avery Brooks, Richard Jenkins, Jeffrey Tambor, Magda, Harlan Williams, Chris Elliott, Brett Favre. Mongo. We don't see Mongo, but I think he's in here anyway. Then Jonathan Richmond. What do you guys see here? I think it's Jenkins. Did you say Keith David? Oh, I don't know why he's- I said Avery Brooks and I meant Keith. I just got Avery Brooks and Keith David confused. That's why I was like- We did a whole podcast segment about this. I was like, who the fuck is Avery Brooks? Yeah. Keith David. We did a whole segment before about how those guys, you could have swapped them into different roles. What's the contingent of listeners you think it's Harlan Williams? I would go for- They're the same people who don't think Richard Tyson is a bad guy. I think my answer, Harlan Williams is pretty good. You know that old children's tale from the sea? Who'd you pick? Keith David. Keith David. I think it's Keith David. Okay. I'll map out- No, I just called him Avery Brooks. Recast and couch director of Citi. Can I test drive Norm McDonald as Tucker for you guys? Oh, yeah. Doing the British accent? Maybe we get rid of the British accent for Norm, but he's just doing Tucker pretending he heard his back, but now he's delivering pizzas. What's on Norm's pat? Norm's pat could have worked too. I just feel like Norm McDonald could have been in this movie. Could he have been the Richard Tyson character? Could he have been Wogey? He could have been Wogey. I just feel like we needed him in this somewhere. Busy making dirty work. I get it. I mean, Norm fits in perfectly with this movie. If Norm is Tucker, this movie, I think is better. Can I make a suggestion in this category? I want to recast the genre because I think you can remake the movie exactly the same, but as a lured thriller. Oh my God, it would be such a great from hell movie. Yes, but it's like five stalkers from hell that are all going after him. It's basically like a Shannon tweet. He's opening up her heart and getting it and then finding out the guy is a complete lie. Black stars might be making this right now. Oh, it's like power season seven. Or MGM. MGM plus, you mean? MGM plus. Yeah. I mean, Chris Elliott turn is legitimately chilling in this movie. Yeah, it's like Pacific Heights or something. Two minutes where it's very kind of scary. Yeah. Well, when he's got like his faces full of boils, like twitching, he's got the eye boil or shoes. Yeah. Yeah. The shoe thing really deflates it. They're very smartly pivoted to having it not because you obviously think it's going to be like him doing something physical to her and he's just smelling her shoes. So all of my shoes. Yeah. Craig, you have a flex category. I'm going to wear it and put on my van hat and I'm going to do a top five list. Top five most shocking and hilarious male nudity in a major comedy. Okay. The zipper scene and there's something about Mary. The ball sack on the drum set and stepbrothers. Jason Segal full nude surprise and forgetting Sam Marshall. The Borat naked hotel fight. And Ken Jong naked crowbar scene in the hangover. So those are all comedies. Yeah. That's the category. Oh, it's just comedies. Yes. Funniest nude. Yeah. Well, shocking and hilarious male nudity in a major comedy. Is funnier. Well, to live in Dying LA when Peterson is just like letting it go, I laughed. The other contenders, MC Ganey and sideways. Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. Yeah. Yeah. We can see him running. And then the giant devil penis and this is the end. I don't know if he counts for you. I don't know. I don't know. Did it? Yeah. How did you Google this? Hey, Claude. Yeah. You've already read it. This is the first time you talk to Claude. Just kidding. So was the search. I've been curious about it. Yeah. Comedy's male nude scene penis. I really made sure that Google knew humorous male nudity scenes that are jokes. Funny male nudity scenes. Let's get your search history up on the screen right now. Can we get that? I got nothing to hide. I stand by this top five. It's just Mackay Lemon teeth. Can I give you the answer? Okay. I think that's a great category. It's not on this list. The answer? No. The answer is Borat. That's the fucking funniest. Oh, tell me. They can't beat Borat ever with the fucking Azamat. That's it. That's the peak of everything. Another movie that had the same kind of energy. Yeah. Borat Theater is the same thing. Half-assed internet research. The scene when Ted gets his scrotum stuck in his pants was inspired by a real incident. Firely Brothers, their sister was listening to records and one of the kids went to the bathroom friends with their sister and had that happen. Not the same thing, but some of it. When Ted falls off the stretcher, not scripted, they kept it in. It was a mistake. Ben Stiller fell off. I didn't want to see him grab his arm. Kind of like realistically. The waterfront house where Mary lived in Miami was destroyed in 2008 by a construction accident. It's gone. High school scene in the beginning was shot at Plantation City Hall in Florida. They saw a rough cut. They thought it was too raunchy and they requested to not be acknowledged in the credits. When you offend Florida, you've really pulled something off. We mentioned the Tambor scene and then the Diaz worried that the jail scene was going to gross people out. They shot two versions. There's also a pretty pointless, but I guess if you're curious, one of the extended cut scenes is about Ted's family. It's like, oh, Ted's brother and donating kidneys to the brother. They build it up a little bit more about what he's been doing between. Apex Mountain, Stiller, no. We're not there yet. Okay. I don't have Stiller. Diaz, I think yes. I think she comes out of this. Is this her biggest movie? Because it's my best friend's wedding the year before then this. I feel like she is the juice. Now that leads to Charlie's Angels. She gets 20 million for Charlie's Angels too, I think. Are you sure it's not Charlie's Angels? It might be, but I feel like she was the acre. She kind of takes Julia Roberts's ironically, like probably her title here. Right? I think she could have done whatever she wanted after this movie. She's like two rom-coms late when I was looking at the IMDB because she eventually does it in the holiday. Sweetest thing isn't really a rom-com, but you know, I think so. Well, it's a comedy. She just made more sex comedies than rom-coms. She was not really a rom- she's in the holiday, but she was not really a rom-com person. She didn't make it like a wow you were sleeping or, but she really took some chances. She made like sex tape, you know? She did some movie like that. Yeah, she made the Malcolm Midge movie. She did the Gangs of New York. Matt Dillon, though. What's Matt Dillon's apex mountain? I think it's in the 80s. Do you think it's outsiders? I think it or Rumblefish or whatever. He felt like he was the biggest teen actor in the world in the 83, 84 range for a couple of years then. The Farrelly brothers, yes. So this leads to me, myself, and Irene a year later, which is the bonkers movie, a year and a half. I wrote down the Farrelly's and I think it's probably the answer, but you know, Peter Farrelly won best picture. Like whatever, 20 years later. So would you say this was Bobby Farrelly's apex mountain, but Peter Farrelly was winning for Green Book? I think it's theirs just because. As a combo, this is it. I think Peter Farrelly and Bobby Farrelly probably go out and like they could do a screening for this movie tomorrow and it would be full and they would be like arts. I don't know that Green Book has that legacy. You can't have a comedy do better than this, I don't think. Like this movie was an absolute comedy phenomenon that made a ton of money and created, either created stars or made stars bigger. It's also just so striking because like we just did Ghostbusters and to watch a movie where it's like Ghostbusters still at the last 20 minutes is like kind of a sci-fi movie. Like a lot of the jokes and Ghostbusters are said to the side of like the plot. This movie is like every scene is a gag. Every scene builds up to a big, big punchline. The Providence Bruins, no. Criselia. What was the Providence Bruins apex mountain? The huge poster in the one bedroom scene with Ben Storre. But I'm saying was there another apex mountain? They won a couple of AHL titles. Okay. Okay. Criselia. Letterman. Yeah, I think it's Letterman. Apexman. It's probably this. I mean maybe that first episode of Get a Life where I was like it's happening. Like it's like the premiere episode. It's like it's on Fox. Was it Sunday night? Like after the Simpsons, right? Like that was, right? Herman's had hours here. I'm more of a Herman's had guy. Would you go funny come scenes or something else here? I mean, Migs is pretty high up there for funny come scenes, but it's unintentional comedy. This is the most intentional come scene funny. What are some other come scenes? Craig, wanna Google that for us? Yeah, I'll pull that up. Funniest come scenes. Hold on guys. Franks and Beans. Apex Mountain for. The terminology. The phrase or? Franks and Beans. What funny is penis injury I've ever seen on? I will say this. Franks and Beans has been a running joke of my house ever since about actual Franks and Beans and like, you know, changing. You could go anywhere. I don't know where you're going to take this. Changing our son's diaper. Okay. Okay. Like make sure you get under the Franks and Beans like that. It's just been in the lexicon. So far it's been. In the Simitosh. Sorry, Ben. Miami comedies. I'm gonna say yes. Yeah. Miami vice is hilarious to me. Miami movies gets a little more interesting. I think it's Miami vice. It's my impact. Are you excited? It's car face. We're talking about Miami vice 85. Not really talk about it. Okay. Did you want to do like a separate little segment at the end of this? Did you hear Sean's idea? Flipping them. Flipping them. Oh, making. Oh, making. MBJ is Crocket. MBJ is Crocket in Austin Butler's Tubbs. That got me excited. Right. That is the move. I don't think Austin Butler can be Sonny Crocket. But MBJ can be Sonny Crocket. Have we ever seen him smoke a cigarette? I feel like he smokes cigarettes and caught stealing, right? He does. Is that not what they're doing? It's not MBJ as Sonny? I don't know. I feel like it would have to be. That would be weird for Michael B. Jordan to be like, I'm happy to play second fiddle to Austin Butler. I just wanted Oscar and Oscar. Jamie did it. Yeah. He was bigger at the time and had come up, was coming off of an Oscar win. I guess you're right. Crazy suntans. It's actually the same thing. It's coming off the ray win. Crazy brown suntans. I think, yes. Jonathan Richmond definitely is. Cruise or Hanks? I had cruise. Cruise as Ted or somebody else? I would like to see cruise with the chompers as Healy. See, I think actually 80s Hanks could do Pat Healy. Yeah. Oh, interesting. I had Hanks either as Ted or Pat Healy. Cruise could have done either part. Cruise could have done the hitchhiker. Seven minute abs. I think Hanks is the answer. Scorsese or Spielberg, tough one for these guys. I think it's Marty and it's Cape Fear. It's basically, it's just a thriller. That's good. The Catherine Tramel, would you throw your life away for this obvious stay away award? Is that for Mary? Who's the stay away? I think it's Mary just because she has all these psychos after her. Oh yeah. Once you find out her dating history and it's like you've dated NFL quarterback and three guys, Hanks or Hanks. Yeah. She's a maniac. I'm looking over your shoulder the entire time. Yeah. You get murdered by some stalker. I would still throw it away. Pick a Knitz. Why does Mary's an orthopedic surgeon but lives in this weird complex where she shares a balcony with Magda? This is where, what's going on here? I feel like this is like basically right out of like 90s sitcoms where it's like, yeah, they all live together. I was like, why, why would they all live together? Why would you live with Magda? Wouldn't she be in like a, on the 34th floor of some high rise in South Beach? Is it supposed to be that she's Magda's next door neighbor and is like kind of shares a balcony with her or does she live with Magda? No, she lives next door. She explains it right? Yeah. Magda's husband dies and was lonely and Cameron Diaz is like the most altruistic human that's ever lived. Right. And so it's doing her a favor by keeping her company. And then Magda starts nailing the homeless doc worker. Speaking of Mary, does she have patience? Is she working? What's going on here? She seems to like, she's Tucker in her office. Yeah, but that's the, otherwise it's like during the day, she's like driving around, no surgeries, play golf and buy it like checkers for, she's working at the, at the camp. Yeah. She's checking out her golf. You wanted more scenes of her. Well, that might explain why she's living in a small apartment. Not getting a lot of business. Yeah. Would have liked to have seen her at least like move somebody's knee around and been like, how's your ACO feel better? That says that what happens? Yeah. Okay. Does that feel better? Wouldn't Ted have known that he went to the same high school as Woogie? Well, he went to the one four towns over. He went to Borington Falls or whatever they talk about. But she knew Mary's, okay, same, same town at least. Yeah. Or neighboring around. He knows it says four towns over it. We heard about it four towns over. But he knows who Woogie is. Yeah. He knows this guy's name is Don Wuganski. Never put the tune together. I guess Ted's not a rocket scientist. Yeah. He's just a magazine writer. I have one more big one. But do you have any? I don't really know what Dom's plan here was. Dom gets the ball rolling downhill. Yeah. Why is he helping Ted but trying to sabotage him? He's a maniac. But he wants Healy to find Mary. And then he's going to go. But like when he's home watching cops, was he like, I might go down there anyway, or is he only go down there once Ted gets arrested? Well, he's relieved earlier in the film when he hears that Mary is overweight and he is only interested really in coming down when he finds out it's a ruse, right? Yeah. So then when he learns that Mary still looks good. Then his face starts breaking out. Yeah. How would Ted ever get a hold of Brett Favre the week of the Dolphins game? It's an incredible question. Brett Favre is like 30 million people are watching NFL games. I don't know. Back in 98 that those guys have to go through like massive film sessions. Wasn't it just kind of go out there and throw some frozen ropes? Out of all 30 starting quarterbacks in NFL, who's the one you think you get closest to getting in touch with right now? Oh, this is a fucking awesome question. Not Jalen Hurts, I'll tell you that much. That's for darn sure. I would have said Darlal. He's barely awake. Darlal. Before the Super Bowl. Why not? Because he seems like a regular guy. He seems like the kind of guy who would be like, I also like prestige television, or I would go to the watch and maybe DM once. What do you think? I think the answer is Drake May because you go through his wife. I mean, wouldn't I just go through you? No, you go through Drake May, he's a wife. And she's on social media all the time. And you just be like, I want to hang out with your husband. Hi, I'm Chris Ryan of The Watch. You see that? Is that how you introduce yourself to new people? I'm Chris Ryan of The Watch. No, who's like the least successful actor? I bet Bryce Young. Bryce Young? Yeah. Number one overall pick. Oh, this is stupid. Baker. Baker would definitely be the answer. Baker. Isn't the answer Tyler Shuck? It's like 25 happy to be here. No, but Baker actually would be this and Baker would be like, yeah, man. I'll come hang out on like a Thursday. Yeah. I feel like Baker does like three pods a week. Any other pick and nits? To me, the biggest one is like, I get Pat's move here. Okay, let me go back. Is Pat's move to have sex with Mary or is it to be in love forever? I think he loves it. I think what's the Mary Mary. Yeah, he loves it. Okay, so that plan is going to fall apart at a certain point, right? Yeah, and he's probably got to uncap his teeth. Right. And then you already pointed out Tucker Norm's long game is just baffling. Yes. But speaks to Mary's flawed orthopedic surgery career. Right. Sequel, prequel, prestige to be all black cast or untouchable. I think it's untouchable. Is this movie better with- You sure you don't want to do all black cast? I think it's an untouchable. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Zane Lowe, Robert Evans, Ryan Rucco or somebody else? I definitely think that there was some space here for Fergie because of the new England Day. And it's just like Fergie being like, you're going to do this for me. You're going to go down to Miami and find this Mary or I'm going to clip you. Like I clipped? Yeah. Fergie is- I don't think I can handle Fergie as woe-woe-gee. Ha! Fergie the Flores watching cops is not okay. You want to do Robert Evans exploring Mary? When did Robert Evans come back into it? Robert Evans is back. Good to be- I don't know if you want to do it. Robert Evans or Robert Lucia? Robert Evans. Was Robert Evans ever in the mix here? I don't know. I just thought we'd throw him in. Mary had the kind of legs that could stop a room. She had Nelly Corda's golf swing. She loved meat on a stick and she could hit a three-armed, hundred-and-and-ears. I introduced her to Steve McQueen and I never saw you do that again. I introduced her to Brett Fobb. She was living in Green Bay this time next year. Brett Fobb never won another game that year. Just one asker who gets it. You'd go Dylan? Yeah. I'm going the prop master. Oh, I'll go the script. We got Puffy. We got Loebcom, you know? Yeah. Probably an Ansible Questions. What replaced rest areas as the bathhouses of the 90s for the next three decades? That's a great question, Bill. What were the zero-zeroes? I don't know how to answer that. I'm not sure I know. Yeah, I don't really know either. My question was... I think Tinder hopped in there. Yeah, I think online swipe left swipe right. Yeah, one of those swipe. What's the podcast equivalent of emptying the baby batter before the date? Is that like when I do the watch before the rewatch? Before we recorded, Bill was like, you guys fresh? You done any pods today? Don't want to be all used up. Just trying to squeeze the second one out. Well, I had Zach last night. We recorded most of the podcast, but then we did the top late night. And he's like groggy and half asleep. It's the best version of Zach. I think you guys were talking about IO and he's just like, I don't know what the fuck you do there. I love groggy, Zach. Did Ted and Mary get married? I think they date for like six weeks and break up. Yeah, because he's... he can't carry this. What do you mean? No, she's like marrying Ronnie. I guess I think he gets nuked by, we didn't talk about this, by Sarah Silverman and Candy Alexander. I don't think he lasts five seconds with them. Oh, true. We forgot to mention them. They had two very stereotypical 90s rom-com comedy girls hanging out scenes. Yeah. This is my big one. How did this movie not have a sequel? I assume they had a chance to do it. This is just good thinking. Let's not fuck with this. A sequel, a bad sequel, this movie screws up the integrity of this movie. All right. You're saying that rationally. I'm surprised too. Somebody that is treating the movie industry like something that's not going to bastardize good IP the moment they feel like they sniff some dollar signs. It's crazy to me. Ben Stowe is a much bigger star. Cameron Diaz is a much bigger star for this movie. The Faraday Brothers probably needed some sort of comeback thingy in the around 2005, 2006 range. And they never thought about doing a sequel. It's crazy. They did a sequel to Dumb and Dumber. They did the Three Stooges movie. They remade the Heartbreak Kid. So it's not like they were above this kind of thing. It's the all time layup. I can't believe they didn't do it. What happened still now? So basically this movie comes out in 98. They essentially need to make this movie before 08 to get it under the social media wire. Because after that, it's just like, yeah, I know what Mary's doing. I looked at her on Facebook. And so like there's only a small window to kind of pull off that premise. Cameron Diaz is only 53. I mean, you could easily. We're getting a space ball sequel next year. Well, we're getting to meet the Fokker's grandkids movie, right? Yeah. Oh, that's yeah. That's right. Meet Fokker and Law. The Secret Handshake memorabilia you'd want from this movie. I have a great one for this, but you got Mary's signature golf bag. Oh, Warren's ear muffs. That's really good. Headphones, right? Ear muffs too? You wear the red ear muffs, yeah. This is what Peter said about the hair gel. Somebody hired a guy to make different loads. He showed up with a leather briefcase, like a businessman that had 30 or 40 loads in it. We called Ben over and would hold one up at a time like an earring. People would say, no, too small. Hmm, kind of lumpy. That's how we decided afterwards we never saw the crew member again. He showed his briefcase and left. We were laughing like, who is that guy and how does he have that job? I'd want the briefcase. The briefcase full of loads. You want the loads in the briefcase? I want the whole package. I want everything. They probably like calcified since 1998. What's some everyday use for the loads for you? People come over like, hey, do you like something? Something about Mary? Have you seen my load case? Flood gone dolly butter a mass lollipops in my mouth a word for something I just enjoy. A load case. I like a movie where everybody has a job, but nobody works. So like Cameron Diaz is an orthopedic surgeon, but spends the day hanging out at the driving range. Ben Stiller apparently has just um, teamed amounts of, of PTO to like stalk his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. I don't want to spend a lot of time working with these guys. I love when a movie introduces a character who seems completely ancillary and incidental and turns out to be the psychopath at the center of the movie. The woogie reveal in theaters. This is pretty good. Double feature. I would go kingpin just to get the Farrelly brothers. I said American Pie. That was just held us down two summers, two Julys in a row. What do you have? Dumb and Dumber. Okay. Let's just laugh for three and a half hours. Uh, who won the movie? I know it's the Farrelly brothers, but it's Dylan. Interesting. For this, for this viewing. So there's four candidates for this. And I actually think the answer is Ben Stiller. Because he goes from, I didn't know you could be the lead of a comedy to then ripping off 11 straight years of comedies and it's because of this movie. And I don't know if it happens without this movie. Are you the deciding voter? Do you have a third option? I think it's Cameron Diaz. There you go. Um, I think there's a really good case for both of them. I think Matt Dillon's the funniest part of the movie. I think Ben Stiller goes on to the greatest amount of success in the movie, but it's Cameron Diaz on the poster. It's Cameron Diaz's movie. Her character's name and the title. This is the thing that catapults her. I thought about her, but I feel like she's, she's going to win the next 15 years anyway. I'll tell you what it was I was thinking about. I don't know if Ben Stiller wins the next 15 years. She never been nominated for an Oscar, you know, not really remembered. She never done an Oscar beat. Yeah, gangs of New York and being John Malkovich. She was nominated for a Globe for being John Malkovich. And she's, she's been nominated for awards before, but never quite got to that, that mountaintop. The Inferis thing was, felt like that was bad for a little bit. Yeah. That was a shot. The Inferis thing in Lawson translation. Oh yeah. She got a Globe nomination for something by Mary. For this, yes. A Globe nomination. And now it's time we go to Craig for his take on the movie. You'd say he won the movie before. We didn't decide who won the movie. Who do you think won the movie? We went three different choices. I think in the moment, in the moment it's Cameron Diaz, but I think if you watch the movie now, it's Matt Dillon. Because going back, you're just so surprised at how funny he is. And I can't believe that he didn't go on to do more comedy. Well, this is like, this is a little apex mountaine because it's like, who won the movie is different than who won the movie. Right. I would, right. Like there's the best part of the movie and the person who benefited most from the movie. Which I think if you're doing that, I think it's Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller. Well, when you walked out of the movie in 1998, probably Diaz. Yeah. Being like, wow, who is that? Yeah. Well, also the Fairly Brothers, I would have been like, give me season tickets now. I'm with you guys. Where do you stand on the like, the run after this? Me, myself and Irene, shallow howl, hall pass, all those movies. I didn't like shallow howl. I did not like, what was the other one? Me, myself and Irene. Me, myself and Irene was carried as peak. I thought that was funny. Like that was worth seeing the theater. I thought that was funny. Shallow howl and stuck on you. I wanted to like, stuck on you. It just didn't work. Yeah. It's not great. It just didn't happen. And then fever pitches in the front. I still like fever pitch. You do? I like it too. Craig, what was your take? I love this movie. The script is just really impressive. Like the amount of callbacks that they are able to weave back into the story, like there is no stone left unturned. It's really impressive. Like every little mention, her having an ex-boyfriend named Brett, everything ties up in a really, Yeah, in a really, really impressive way. It's just a great set piece comedy. And I think, I think the, I think there was a sweet spot for set piece comedies. Like CGI kind of ruined them. Where I think when you have to live in like the reality of what you're literally physically able to do while shooting a movie, I think set pieces were just way funnier because it was like real humans doing real stuff. And this is like a perfect sweet spot with that. And then once you got past certain like 2010s, there was like way more CGI and things in the humor to me felt more like artificial. Yeah. When Warren beats up Ted, it would be so fake now. Yes. Yeah. And I think there's like, They took those bumps. But they would do it the way they do like those fake, like those John Wick movies, like Bob Odin Kirk action movies where it's like, Oh, I'm like flying through the window. Because they always think bigger is better. And then with CGI, you can go huge, but I actually think it takes away some of the humanity of it. And so this movie is within like a 10, 15 year sweet spot of all the set piece comedies. It might be. I forgot to mention I like when they try on the outfits and Oh, yeah. Warren's dressed as like a cowboy and then Ben Stoward comes out with the pink super outfit. Also a driving range on the water is like the coolest thing about my life. And how many of those are there? It's probably bad for the body of water. Why isn't there one of those in LA? I bet there is somewhere in the valley. So then it's the idea that you've got a underwater ball scooper. I guess. It would only improve the water. Or there's a guy in a boat out there just like there is, you know. CR. Phil. It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. Yeah. I'm sorry. You didn't like my idea of having the suitcase of all the stunt cum loads. I just wanted to know what you were going to do with it. Like I think it would be if you did a series of... You'd look at it if I had it in the house. I would check it out. I would be like, how could we, how can we ruin Ben's night with this? I love that they had made 30 of them. I'm just so fascinated by this. Have you been like Halloween handing those out? Yeah. Do you think the guy who made the loads has like had a good job? Do you think he is... I think he said he was in props. But now I think probably about 2007 probably moved back to where I reclaimed from. It was like I'm moving back to New Jersey. Yeah. To... Like into his mom's house? What do you mean? Yeah, I just don't think it really probably worked out for him. His career as load master is off for a... Yeah, just like at the correct point, CGI came in. Yeah. Yeah. You might say he was load bearing. Sean, new newsletter. Yeah, hey. Hey. Hey, projections. Yeah, that's it. They do like a paragraph, but there's something about Mary. Oh, that would be nice. Yeah. I would love to promote this fine podcast in that space. Hey, thanks. Anything you can do to help us out. That would be great. Yeah, you got to pop those numbers out. You know. Thanks for your help. Thanks to Craig Roebuck as well. Thanks to Gahau and Eduardo as well. Thanks to Louis K for hanging out with me for the first time in two years. I was big of him. Yeah, that was nice of him. And we'll see you. We're doing all comedies this month, so we'll see you. Not sure what the comedy is going to be next week, but we'll see you next week. Thanks.