Salmon, iOS & Saoirse: Tuesday, May 19th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the Fast Five Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. I'm chosen and I choose you today, tomorrow and forever. That's so beautiful, Code Cher and I'm so glad to see this sunny environment has influenced a sunny disposition. Absolutely. Lots to be excited about today. One, we're together and just families everything. We're together again in studio so if you're listening, feel free to watch your girl's swirl or even though if you watch every day it does sort of feel like we're together. It's always a party viewing experience but this is just extra fun. It's lots to be excited about today. One, major launch for the Sprit Society team as you can see the boxes behind us have changed you guys. We teased sort of like we were over hyping but I do think that the product and the launch like demands the hype that we gave it. We are launching a brand new product. I don't think we overhyped. I literally think that's actually a flaw of ours. That we don't hype enough. Because this is like an industry changing product. It is a skinny Sprit that's our new launch as you can see the boxes behind me. It's a skinny Sprit. It's the classic Italian Sprits that you know and love but we made it skinny. That's right. It's 100 calories, no added sugar, part delicious definition. It's like skinny girl summer is here. Sprit's girl summer is here. No added sugar. Zero, none, not one. Like it's poured over a glass of ice like it looks like a Sprit. Yeah so we're having a skinny girl summer. It's available exclusively at Target. We filmed a commercial. It's on the Sprit's Instagram. It's hilarious. And yeah, sort of like big things happening here over at Toast HQ. Watch this space. Grab a Sprit and make it a skinny. Don't grab a spoon. Grab a Sprit. Yeah, I love that. So many things I want to talk to you about from yesterday's episode. The first is that I got a lot of feedback about who Joellen looks like. I do and I actually feel bad for Joellen that we like open up this. It's the rudest thing you could do. The lore. It's like Claudia's worst nightmare. Everyone sound off with who you think Joellen looks like. But it's like bothering me so much. And while I don't think anybody really got it. No, nobody scratched the itch that I'm thinking. The most popular answer and the one I see the most is Topanga, Danielle Fischel. So I agree she does look like Topanga, but it must be somebody in my personal life because nobody really got it. Well, Joellen herself has said that she looks like a mix of Topanga and Teresa Judeis, which she does. Yes, she does. Look at the cast photo. Look at the cast photo. I got a new iPad, everyone, because I left mine in New York and we always need more iPads at Toast HQ. And I just want to say I spent the morning setting up an iPad and I wish everybody who like who was a part of making this iPad and the setup system. I wish them the worst things in their life. Like seriously, the way my morning was fucking ruined, having to get my Apple ID and setting up a passcode and then like all my texts got on here, even though I explicitly said, don't transfer anything. Miserable morning. Sorry, what was I doing on my? What was I doing? Look at the cast photo for Rory because she does look like Teresa Judeis. There's a sprinkle of Teresa in there. Trey. Someone said she looks like America for era. Claudia didn't like that call, but I did. Her cast photo, like with all the women or a lot of people say she looks like Olivia Oshry. Oh, she does have Olivia Oshry sprinkled in her. Yeah, she's like, oh, and I just want to say, I don't feel bad about these celebrity doppelgangers because everyone we're mentioning is pretty. Like she Joellen is pretty. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's like not like a. Oh, in the cast photo, she is giving. Trey. Jujie Trey. Yeah. They all look like Dolores. Yeah. And then like Alicia and Liz do sort of look like each other until you watch more. Did we say that Kelsey looks like Olivia Colpo? Other people have said it. For me, she's Gal Gadot. And in the episode I was watching last night from the angle that I was seeing her face, she was giving Kim Kardashian. You ever get a good. Do you ever get a glimpse of Kim with her? No, but actually Joellen is also giving Kim. Interesting. It's insane. Now they all look the same. Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch any more last night? No, I started the viral series off campus. Have you heard about it? I've heard. That's all I've heard. Viral series off campus porn. The funny thing is, is like, oh, one of the porn books that I didn't read got made into a TV show and I'm watching and I'm like, check my good reads this morning. I did read this book, but I don't have any recollection of like her being a music major. I thought she was an ice skater, but then I think that's deal breaker or ice breaker. That's they should turn into. So I watched it and like obviously people are just making it prime. Who's in it? Nobody you ever know, except the girl you're telling me that's not Barbie Ferrara from Euphoria. Like I couldn't believe what I was seeing. You know, it's got your classic makings. It's getting over hyped like just because of the porn. It's the show like amazing. No, but like I'm starting to fall in love with the characters and like it's cute. But it's only something I could watch while Ben was playing basketball with your husband last night because if Ben walked in and was watching like the actual not even the porn, but like the acting, like it's humiliating to be a part of it. Like I'm ashamed to be watching the show, but I will be finishing it. You ever have one of those shows? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I just feel like there are some porn shows that are so like, I think a good example is what's the Daisy Edgar Jones one? Normal people. Was that the show that she did with Paul Mezcal? Normal people. That was like a beautiful show while also being porn. Oh, my God, I loved it. He did. The show that I'm watching now is like legitimately like some of the worst acting, the worst everything, the fake college that they go to. Like it's just like it's so it's like ABC family. Yes. Oh, yes. Perfect example, but it's good. And I like it in the characters. That guy's really cute, but like it's stupid, you know? But I wanted to, you know, obviously, because I'm a part of a viral show. I had to like watch the viral show, you know? Yeah, it's my job as sort of our viral correspondent. Oh, OK. Oh, and there's, you know, product placement. There's a liquid IV product placement. It's sort of a storyline. I want to say good on liquid IV for getting involved in a viral show, but in a unique way. Like obviously, they're all athletes, they're collegiate athletes. So you would think like, OK, they're having liquid IV, but no, there's a storyline that like one of the athletes get gets a liquid IV with his sponsorship, but it has to be with his dad, who he's a bad relationship with, like it's funny. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And they're like, you should do the liquid IV sponsorship with Graham, like whatever. It's funny. It sounds great. Oh, and also I haven't seen that much of it, though, yet it hasn't like totally it's bubbled up to the start. I'm like, yeah, you're early on the curve, but I have been hearing like a little bit. Yeah. But no, as far as like need to watch is for me. And I'm like literally bedtime last night was a two hour long affair. It's amazing that I got to watch any Rory. I will tell you when things like I told you, you need to watch Rory. You do not know. No, no, no, I am not watching that show. No. Tonight, though, is in the city premiere along with summer house. Summer house. Oh, is it the finale? I think so. That's exciting. That's it's giving like you know, I've had enough. I'm ready for Beverly Hills to absolutely. They had their big from last night. Amanda was there. She looked good. Yeah. I mean, they all owe her a huge thank you. Enormous like Lindsay and Kyle and everyone needs to be sending her flowers because not only did she like make this season of summer house, like she has solidified that their show that, you know, most shows suck and don't go anywhere and nobody wants to watch them. She has solidified that their show will be a hit. Like you're welcome. Absolutely. And I've ruined my life for you guys. Like well, she didn't really do it for them. Fucking generous. She didn't really do it for them. But I hear you're so selfless beyond. They actually always thinking of others. She they seriously owe her a thank you as mad as they are in a backwards kind of way. Like they are all being lifted up because of her sins. And they all look like heroes, even though they did not do anything. They all they did not do anything. Yeah, they just aren't her. So it's good. Exactly. And they get to like take the moral high ground. Yeah. Even though they've they've sanctioned these sorts of like incestuous relationships in the house all along. Except for Lindsay, her crime like doesn't really hurt most of them. Like, yes, Sierra and Kyle, I'm not talking about. But like everyone else who's now a hero, like right, poor K. And it's like, Carl, you were very much like on your way out. Like you were we're going to have to be a part of in the city. You're like not bringing that much anyway. So yeah, they all owe her a huge debt of gratitude, aside from the people she actually hurt. Yeah. But still, like you could make the case like the pain of your man and your friend. But then they also say like they weren't that close with her in the off season. There's like people saying that. So your man and your friend got together, but you are now set for life. Yeah, it's kind of one of those like, would you rather? Would you rather your man and your guys seriously answer answer me this? Would you rather your best co-worker? Sorry, not your man. A guy you have like a very toxic history. Your your ex crush. No, your ex boyfriend current situation. Crush, current crush, very toxic. Would you rather like just he goes, runs away with like a girl who you're really close or they wouldn't say that's like your best friend in the whole world. Like someone you're really close with or a good co-worker friend, good co-worker friend who like you see out out of the office, but in exchange, you get fame and fortune. Like what do you think? Yeah, I mean, personally, I'm going to pay my fortune. I don't even want the fame. Because I like have my head on street. Right, right, right. And I could see that like that toxic situation chip slash ex boyfriend cycle. Like it's not going to work out for me in the long run anyway. So I might as well cut my losses and become famous. Yeah, more famous. Also, I was watching Ariana a little bit of her on Watch What Happens Live. I don't know when she was there or why. But Andy was like saying, you know, how Sierra is getting like the La Violin Dream and Dancing With The Stars. Like have you given her any advice? And Ariana is like, she doesn't need advice. She's going to be amazing. But it must be a little spooky for Ariana because like it's exciting that it's happening for someone else. They're literally like following in her footsteps and it's giving like out to pasture. It's giving the substance. She's to me more. And Sierra is Margaret Quayley. No, it's giving like expired. You know, like there's a treadmill and it's like Ariana was going. Now, Sierra is coming. Yeah. So it's like if she's doing all the same things, Ariana is doing, that means Ariana wouldn't be doing those things anymore. Like if Sierra is doing after Sunset goes well, like what she's doing. Hosting. Yeah. Like and I do think they should mix up the hosts for La Violin. They do actually. This is like their fourth or fifth host. So yeah. So it's like it's not all great. You know, but Ariana has to sit there and be like, I'm so happy. I'm so proud. It's my girl. Of course. Yeah. But I'm just like, that's a little weird. Like she's going to take your jobs. Absolutely. Your job's a your job's a what's next? Chicago on Broadway. I don't think she would. I don't think she sings or dances. Like I don't think she has. But she's doing dancing with the stars. Oh, oh, oh, wait. So like if she really impresses everyone, but like you can learn to dance. I don't think you can learn to sing. You can learn to sing better. But if you have no chops, I don't know if she has no chops. But is it a really like vocal, heavy role? Roxy, the name on everybody's lips is going to be. Roxy, I feel like you could do it because it's like it's yes, you have to sing. You have to just like be good at things. You don't have to like be incredible and you have to sell tickets. It's more like the ticket selling role. You know, I was just watching speaking of Chicago, a vlog from the actress Danielle Monae. She played Trina Vega in Victoria's and like one of her iconic lines from Victoria's is like, she can't have ever heard that audio. It's from Chicago, the musical turns out she was up for the role of Roxy. She lost it. She shared a whole vlog about how upset she was. But like it was like this amazing process, you know, yada, yada. But that would have been huge for like for the millennial core. Yeah, Trina Vega actually playing Roxy when I think she like played Roxy in the Victoria's adaptation and the Academy of Victoria. Right. Right. Whatever school Hollywood Arts. That would be beautiful. We've actually a lot to do today because, of course, like we're launching a huge business, like I said, skinny spritz available now exclusively a target. We have dear toasters. Of course, we have stories. I guess that was your TV recap because I did not watch the new Rory. I will. But it's also like I'm kind of feeling stressed because like tonight's also like the next game and like. And tonight's summer house in the city. I know Ben was like making plans for us to go watch, but I don't think I can. No. I'm stressed like lots of content. And I also haven't even cracked open. Brockers Bell Bird. And like I'm telling you, I brought it to Florida with me. You're never reading Coppers Bell Bird. I have to read Coppers Bell Bird in Hayden Panthear's memoir. And what was the third book? Oh, someone remind me. I had three books on my nightstand in my emotional nightstand. You think you added to your goodreads? Of course not. What was the third book I wanted to read? So what was it? I'm a denim. Oh, yeah, I actually really do. Coppers Bell Bird. This week I'm taking on so much. I started Rory. I have off campus. I have now in the city. Like it's just a lot. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it. Yeah. I don't know how I'm going to watch all that TV tonight. Like bedtime is just a bloodbath. It's an hour's long affair these days. So we'll see. We'll say we're doing our best. But we like actually have to watch summer house finale. Yeah, of course. So like the next game, like, sorry, I'll have to tell bed like I can't. Yeah, in fact, I might have to take the lead. On bedtime. Do we get together and watch? Or like the boys could get together. Do bedtime together while watching this. And watch the game. And actually then they could watch the game with the boys. Like they could watch a little bit of the next game. It's cute. OK, we'll sync up. We can go upstairs. Yeah, we just get to the bedroom. You know, do our thing. All right, well, I feel adequately prepared if you feel adequately prepared. I do feel adequately prepared for the past five stories that you do need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Weight Watchers. Whether you're curious about affordable GLP-1 options or you're looking for smart nutrition guidance and a supportive community, Weight Watchers gives you the tools to stay on track and reach your weight loss goals. Spring is not about starting over. It's about starting fresh. And that's with support that keeps up with you. So obviously, you know, GLP-1s, everyone's obsessed. 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Our first story, today's stories are quite random, like a lot of programming news, I would say. It's giving modern TV guide. Yeah, it is. Ella Enchanted TV series is in the works at Disney Plus with Anne Hathaway producing. So a new series is in the work at Disney Plus. People confirms that they are in the early stages of developing a new TV series adaptation of Ella Enchanted based on the 1997 novel of the same name and the movie of the same name, which starred Anne Hathaway and came out in 2004. I didn't realize it was based on a book loosely. I have a truth I need to share. You never saw Ella Enchanted? You didn't like Ella Enchanted? I've never seen Ella Enchanted. Oh, that was the true thing. Oh my God, everyone's just gasped. Yeah, no, I've never seen it. Like, I feel like it's always on. It's definitely like an e-movie we love. It just missed me. And I get confused with the Amy Adams one. Enchanted. Oh, right, I've never seen that either. Isn't that crazy? That movie's amazing. Which is better? Enchanted. Like, you're obsessed with one of them, which is it? Enchanted. OK. James Marsden's in it. You're kidding. It's so good. You know, James Marsden is like in the new season of Your Friends and Neighbors, and we're learning more about his character, and he's increasingly just like really fucking evil. Oh, don't do that. And it's really crazy, because he never does evil. No, but he's also in that show that was like, oh my God, lightning in a bottle, but then dead to me. Dead to me. With Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini. Such a good fucking show. Did he play someone evil? He also played twins. Well, maybe one was good. Yeah, yeah. So he has range. And you know what? He's just took too long to release that last season. He's not just Corny Collins. But he is. He was too good at Corny Collins. Because like, Corny Collins is not an evil arms dealer. But that's why he is good to play someone that isn't unsuspecting. Yes. Evil doer. Yes, yes. But anyways, this is Ella Enchanted, which Anne Hathaway starred in the 2004 movie. It's about like a 16-year-old who's cursed at birth to obey every command. And it's just like cutesy fairytale. Yeah, I feel like this is kind of a trend that we're seeing. Like we're prequeling and shmequeling. And I don't want to be a hater because I haven't seen this. And I don't know. And the L1 looks good, prime video. But just like bring back Carrie Diaries, you know? Ahead of its time. Yeah. No, this sounds good. Why is Anne Hathaway working so hard? Like, broke? She's, yeah. She's obviously in debt. I feel like everyone in the stories today is broke because everybody is working so hard and doing things that they do not need to do. When they have a lovely living, they have families. Are you talking about the Jonas Brothers? I'm talking about the Jonas Brothers, which we'll get to. But for Anne Hathaway, seriously, she's taking on so many movies right now, like great, exciting projects, really classy stuff. Yeah, nothing bad. She hasn't gotten to the point where she's desperate and she's putting out bad shit. But why do you want to work so much? Like why? Yeah, it couldn't be me. But I imagine maybe she has a lot of family that she's supporting or a gambling addiction. I don't know because she is doing a lot. And I think that like. Maybe she wants a plane or something, which I just, I would like to know that. So what motivates Anne Hathaway to work this hard? I worry about her because she's kind of fallen into the trope of being beloved and then becoming hated because it's just too much of a good thing. And it's a lot of exposure. And she's kind of, she's not there yet, but she's doing a lot. And I do feel like when you're doing a lot and you're so well liked because people just are how they are, you will become hated. And I can see her falling down that rabbit hole again. No, I don't think it won't happen again. It won't happen like that. That's kind of like Taylor. Taylor's never going to get to that place again because she's ascended. But when you do burn bright and fast really quickly, it fizzles. And then with Jennifer Lawrence, that happened too. Like everybody loved her and then everyone thought it was cool to hate her. And then you get to a place of just like states. Stability. Yeah. So I don't think she's going to have it down again, especially because she keeps making quality work. And it seems like the world has come to appreciate her. Well, as long as she doesn't cut her hair, like that's really what the whole thing was. She was so artsy because she didn't burn bright and fast. She actually like really worked from Princess of Genovia and then she all the way up to Les Mis at the Oscars. She cut her hair. And it's like we can only take so much from celebrities. Like, you know, you're giving your speeches and it's just out of touch, whatever. And you also have a bad haircut. She's now, I think a lot of her like buzz and why people love her is like her fits. Like she's kind of a fashion icon, like out of love feels. And she needs to keep up with that. And she's also older and more mature. It's not as like flashy as a young person. Like it's kind of nice. It comes with age. It's just like a respect. And you don't turn on respect, you know? Absolutely. So I feel like that's also what's happening to Taylor because she also got that like, oh, her words and those speeches are so phony. Like, why do you still think like she's a shock? Over exposure. You're shocked to win everything. Like that's how Anne Hathaway was sort of being. I guess people don't like that. I remember when she took her Oscar and she says, I will use this as a weapon to fight self doubt. It's like, girl, get out of here. Maybe it's the self doubt that keeps her working so hard. Maybe, but she is doing a lot. And this is like producing, you know, it's not even acting. Well, if they were gonna do it, they had to like get her stamp of approval on it. Like it's kind of how Reese is, but she's Hello Sunshine. Like she's actually making it. I think maybe Anne Hathaway is doing more than just like an in name only producer. No, I think that actually is good credit to the film. Cause it's like, even if she doesn't do anything, never shows up for one day. It's like, she's a producer. Like it feels like an extension of the movie that was so loved. Absolutely. Okay, fine. So maybe she's just cashing a check here. Yeah, yeah. Which we love to see women in business. Yes. Okay. I just, you know, I worry about her. Where is it gonna be? Disney plus. Oh, of course. As it should be. Yeah. Disney plus doesn't have like a lot of, Going home. Doesn't have like a lot of shows. Like what do you watch on Disney plus? Like you watch stuff for your kids and like movies, graphic. Yeah. But it's like, do you see the new Disney plus show? No, I guess they put it all on Hulu. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Some other people that like want to keep working and don't want to go home. The Jonas Brothers. The Jonas Brothers are starting a podcast called Hey Jonas and it's available now. This is really crazy to me. And I don't know why I keep letting the Jonas Brothers surprise me. I don't know if the Jonas Brothers know how famous they are because they're always doing things that are in Congress with their level of celebrity. Like this is a band that sold out multiple nights at Metal Life Stadium. Like that's what Taylor Swift does. I was gonna say Taylor Swift. That's what Ed Sheeran does. That's what Coldplay does. And it's like, they don't also do Jonas Con. Well, they don't have to split in three ways. So I do think a lot of what we see from the bros is the fact that they have to split it three ways. And I do. So they need three jobs to make one whole income. Correct. And they both have families. Like they spend a lot. But they all do like other side ventures. Like Nick has tequila, coffee, popcorn. Nick has a solo career. I keep listening to his music in my car. Yeah. I feel like everybody's obsessed with Bruno Mars's. Debt. Debt. And it's like, well, really, I'm not worried about Bruno Mars. He is the biggest artist in the world. Like on a global scale. I actually, I'm worried about the Jonas Brothers. This is very low brow. It's a recession indicator. It's on I Heart Radio. So like I get the musical element, but I don't know. It's really, it's worrisome. Well, I want to say there's two ways this podcast could be. There could be like, you know, this is cash grab. It's I Heart Radio. It's like not like a serious show. But I Heart Radio is also a legitimately bankrupt company. And I just want to say they're not, we, when we were out to market like with our show, like I Heart Radio was like making offers way less than everybody else. Like they're broke. So I don't think that they're like, like they didn't get like an insane deal. So, but just listen. If they were at serious XM. There's two ways that this could be going. And I just want to say they should have done this at serious XM because it would have been less shady. Not even about the payday. Because if you have an audience, you will have money. And also maybe they want to be in good standing with I Heart because they run the radio stations. They need radio for their music career. So like it's all. That's what people do who are like, certainly one year in the industry. Listen, so either this is like a fake show on I Heart Radio where they like just do like. Pre-recorded like. Pre-recorded like nonsense and like games and stupid shit. And like nobody's really listening. But think about it for a second. If it were like an actually good show, like and serious. And like they talk about like fatherhood. They have on, yes. They get like introspective. They talk about brotherhood and family. Family and history. It could be like armchair expert. Yeah, I don't know why. But I don't know which one they're going for. And I don't know why. I just don't feel like shows like that are capable of being made when they're at I Heart Radio. I know that sounds really crazy, but it's all just like kind of corny, buzzy like filler for the radio. Yeah, aren't Colch on I Heart Radio? Last Colch. I was like Colch. Last Colch. What is she talking about? Last Colch. Yes, and I do feel like that's why they're so popular because they're so different. Like they are good. I was listening to the radio. Oh, when I was in Dallas and I didn't know how to put on music. So I just, I was like scared driving. So I just like stayed on the radio. Claudia, my commute was 25 minutes. I didn't hear one song. But let me tell you, I heard four advertisements for Last Colch podcast. That's what I'm saying. It's a broke company. Like they just do commercials. Yeah. So I do think that they're like the darlings of I Heart Radio. And I do think they're an extremely popular podcast. And I wasn't talking about them. Sorry, I didn't realize that they were there. That does not mean being shady to anyone. I was just saying like maybe they could, it's possible. It's possible to have success there. And there's obviously, they could go anywhere, Last Colch. There's something that keeps them there. Right, right, right. Something. That's true. Maybe it's all those commercials they're getting. I mean, I could use a commercial. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's fair. Imagine if there was four commercials an hour telling like relevant listeners to listen to the toast. I think that moves the needle. For sure. And I get like the radio aspect of it. But it just feels in Congress with their level of celebrity. But I do feel like at their level of celebrity, they could actually have a very successful, introspective podcast. When done right, even by celebrities, it's career changing if you have a really good one. But I don't know if they're doing this with the intention. They're so thin. Are they doing this with the intention of making it really good? I don't know. Or is it just like to check a box? Give me a list of celebrities who you think are on the same level of fame as the Jonas Brothers. Also, I wanna pull, the podcast is available now. Like I wanna see what the description is. What are we doing here at Hey Jonas? Okay, I just wanna say that like the list of people that chat gave me, like they should have podcasts. Five seconds of summer. I feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers. The chain smokers, I also feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers. Dan and Che, I also feel like, I feel like chat actually thinks very lowly of. Or we just think like a little higher than Jen Pop. Than Jen Pop. No, I'm telling you, the Jonas Brothers, maybe like are they, are the Jonas Brothers like not cool or famous? Like am I, do I have a skewed? We definitely are more into the Jonas Brothers than Jen Pop. Really? I feel like I'm over the same people who were like Jonas. Cause you're meeting fellow people like you. But I'm not even like Jonas Cronus. What do they call themselves? Like Jonestas? I don't know, wait, here's the description. Hey Jonas, hosted by Kevin, Joe and Nick. It's the Jonas Brothers you know, musicians, actors and well yes, brothers. Now they're sharing another side of themselves in the playful intimate and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before. A little bit longer. Okay, deep conversations. What's the first episode? It's a, oh, there's a. Just a trailer or an episode? There's a trailer and then there's a 13 minutes episode. What is the description of the first episode? This is Hey Jonas, join Kevin, Joe, okay. The same thing? Let's just give me, listen to like a minute. I feel like it's gonna be really produced like. Getting to a great idea is hard. Excuse me, we have our own ads. Get out of here. Yo, my God. They're not reading their own ads. How many minutes of ads? So how do we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas guys? Brilliant question. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember going down. Yes. Rico host is a lot. We had sons of Jonas. It had nothing to do with that. I don't think you're right at all. We were talking about a thing. That's a bad idea. We were talking over each other. Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad. Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title. He's taking credit. He's taking credit. Thanks for that. They have a really toxic relationship. Well, thanks Nick. Mine was just a little bit more exciting. It was an elaborate story. So really this story. I don't get any extra credit. You know, like podcast points. I just want to say I would love to see you listen to another podcast on our podcast. I know I know. And call it a podcast. Yeah, right. Is that a thing? All right. I feel like everyone in the world had a podcast. So we just felt left out. So we needed a podcast. We needed the money. Well, I was thinking more that we had a lot of really important things to talk about. That's true. We don't spend enough time with each other as it is. So why not just fill the space between soundtrack and the show with a podcast where we have to be together in a closed environment? They're optimizing their schedule. Habit stacking. Habit stacking. I mean, why not make a couple grand in this hour when we're just sitting here taking a poop? Because a couple grand split three ways after taxes and commissions is $3. Even more? No, it's a great. It's a good idea. We should definitely do it. Pull a question from the bowl. Intensive. Wow. Hold on. That's low. Intensive. All right. Let's get a question. There it is. That's what Joe's idea. I love this idea. I just do random questions that have nothing to do with. There's metal bowl. All right. And I'm sorry. Three people is too many for a podcast. I'll take it. Nick. Oh, OK. No. I think it's Nick. We could all answer it too. Maybe not now. I think we could all. We don't know what's in the bowl. That's great, Nick. This is for you, Nick. Do you pee in the shower? Oh, yes, I do. I love to do it. And that's so mean. So it's the first kind of podcast. Yeah. Well, the thing is, I will give them grace. The first episode of The Toast was a show show. Like, you have to give grace. It takes people a couple of episodes to get on their feet. I'm worried about three people, especially three people, who I feel like struggle with. Who's the leader? Who's the middle? Like, and I think Nick thinks it's him. And I think that Joe thinks it's him. And I think Kevin thinks it's Joe. But I also feel like Kevin might be feeling like this is my time to shine. I'm the smart one. I'm the one. The fans are grown up. The fans like me. I'm a father. I'm the one who makes good choices and is selfless. Settle down. And build a business. Like, you two are like rock star egos. But like, when it comes to a podcast, you want to hear from the Kevin with the life advice. It's very true. So maybe he's also going to be like talking over everyone because he thinks this is his time. Now Kevin is saying, me. He doesn't sing, but he can talk. I'm worried about them. I still am worried about them after hearing the first episode. But I look at grace. Knowing that the first question from the Bull is Do You Pee in the Shower confirmed it's the first type of podcast. It's not deep compost. It's not the second type. Yeah. They're not opening up a vein and bleeding out. But I mean, also, why do that on the first episode? Like, you don't even know if it's going to be a success. Right. I feel like give it time. It's not the worst idea. It's not the worst nominees for a podcast. It's really not. No, it's not. But I'm worried about them. And if the recession indicator. If the if the if the concept is that we have an hour between soundcheck and the show and like they're just sitting there talking and like shooting the shit, what they would be doing. And now we're going to like record and make money from it. I think that's actually works. I do think the live shows will suffer. Like doing a podcast, people think it's nothing. Like I'm sorry. You have to like when I get done here, I can take an app. Like you really you supposed to give if you're going to do it. Right. You give it all like you can't actually that is the performance. You know, I think that their tour will suffer. Interesting. Yeah. And it will say one thing about them that, you know, they really cannot knock them for is that they are amazing performers. Like what they will always have, they should tour forever because maybe other financial, I don't know if their new music streams the way it used to, but they will they have a really big fan base and they can tour forever and like make a living from it. They should do Vegas residency. I believe that they did. I believe it was enormously popular because like their clientele would go to Vegas. That way they could like put their kids in school in Nevada. No, I mean, a lot of people live in LA and go out to Vegas. I'm just like trying to keep them home, you know, that's what Adele did. She was like when I went to her show, she was talking about how like this is the most amazing work life balance she's ever had because she's in LA all weekend and she I think, you know, sees her son's a jet. She jets back and forth every every weekend. Yeah. Well, no, I meant like if they got houses. Oh, they have a Vegas residency that starts tomorrow. Cool. OK, so we're on the same page. Oh, so maybe it's like a Vegas residency podcast. They didn't make that clear. And maybe the Vegas residency is like sponsored by a radio. But no, but I was saying is like they could get houses in Nevada. They could live there. Not everyone wants to do that. Pretty Spears did that. I think when you have a residency where you actually perform on the weekdays, like Donnie and Marie, I know you're right, because Adele was weekends with Adele. I think it was a short stint. I'm saying for 20 years, the Jonas brothers should live in Nevada, put their kids in school, Vegas every night. But when you do that, you have to be OK with like you're now entering like a season of retirement almost. And I think that some of the egos in that group, Nick is so not down. Nick loves like SNL and like, you know, being like Swirly. Yeah. Well, I think that it's. And Joe is single now, like they're not doing that. I mean, Kevin would do it. That's our stable king right there. No, but he's he has deep roots, like where he lives in Jersey. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more music news? And I'm glad that people are talking about it because Spotify. Oh, my God, this is fucking disgraceful. And I'm sorry, as partners of Spotify, I love you, but undo what you've done. So they say their disco ball icon, which prompted massive user backlash will go away next week as planned. OK, so I assumed that it was like a 50. No, I'm sorry. Every time I saw that logo, I thought Spotify was downloading on my phone. Yes, of course. And I'm like, why don't I have Spotify? Not only that, but I feel like people haven't even noticed they like now what when we're talking about it there, they're like, yeah, I saw that, but they didn't even like realize what was happening. I literally had to like get out my magnifying glass to see what the new icon is. And it's like a disco ball, Spotify green ball. So I also thought it was downloading. And then I saw it was like a special edition logo. And I said, oh, this didn't pass like a user experience test. But I'm like, I'm sure it's some anniversary and will be done tomorrow. And it's been like five days, far too long for such a poorly constructed logo. I feel like I know nothing about graphic design. I am not, you know, proficient in Photoshop. And this and you know how many people it took to get this made, approved, launched, not one of them said, you know, this is bad. I didn't know that this was happening. I thought maybe like it only happened to me. What's it in celebration of? Hey, it has rained down on Spotify's 20th birthday party celebratory disco ball icon. The streamer acknowledged the backlash and said the old 2D logo will return to users, photos, phones next week as previously planned under the temporary icon switch out. So they're saying was always going to be changed back. It's not just because everybody hates us. Sure. Without warning last week, they debuted the glowing green mirror ball icon for the mobile app on Apple's iOS. It was meant to be a fun celebration of the first 20 years connected with Spotify 20. iOS or iOS? I've never heard anyone say iOS. I read what I saw. Cool. I like I see iOS. That's like hooked on phonics. It's hooked on John X. Like you just start living in your own one thousand percent. And I love that. What did I say? Ios. Yeah, I feel like everybody says iOS. Like when you update to the new iOS, not the new iOS. Oh, you guys are living in the past and in the future. Absolutely. Spotify appears to not have expected this intense reaction from many of its users about the appearance of the disco ball with many slamming it as a visual abomination. Yes, it's a disgrace. One person said the person who designed this logo should be fired. Absolutely, by the way, like the like you that this is definition being bad at your job. Yeah. Yeah. And then Spotify said we know glitter is not for everyone. It's not about the glitter. Oh, my God. Sliders. That's honestly, I'm living for the statement. They said I know you guys are ugly and don't have taste. So we'll change it. Our temp glow up and soon your regularly scheduled Spotify icon returns next week. Whether that was always the plan or not, they're acting like this was exactly how they wanted next week. I'm sorry. We can't wait that long. And let me tell you it's everywhere because I logged into CarPlay. And even on the CarPlay, it's the disco ball. It looks better there than on the phone because it's bigger. But it's still so bad in bed. It was like, what's that? I'm like, I can't even talk about it. I had no idea that. So glad we're talking about that. I'm so glad that we're talking about it and like that. We're just like shedding light on this national issue. Disgrace. Outrage. Yeah. I'm glad that they know that we hate it. Yeah, despise. I love being a Spotify partner. Love. But this doesn't change the fact that I have to be honest. It's ugly. Go back. And it's confusing. Worse than ugly. Like it's confusing. We didn't know it was your birthday. We rely on you so much. Our favorite podcast, all of our favorite music. I use Spotify like 20,000 times a day for Foo, for me, for work. Like, and I'm sorry, the user experience was temporarily sidelined. Fix it. Go back. I wonder if it harmed our numbers because people thought like their Spotify was downloading. To check our analytics for this week. Cut me my check, Spotify. So all will be right next week. All will be right next week. My life begins next week. Are you ready for our next story, which is your genuine nightmare? Oh, no. What? So Ryan Gosling was fired from the Lovely Bones movie after gaining 60 pounds for the role. Wait, not only is that my personal nightmare. Who was he supposed to play? The dad? The dad. You know what? Mark Wahlberg did always feel sort of strangely cast. And I guess it was like a last minute thing. But why the dad being fat has like nothing to do. Why would he have to gain 60 pounds? He's just a suburbian dad. And I just want to say Mark Wahlberg like wasn't even fat in the movie. So it's not a role that required him to be fat. This is what I mean when I say like actors are so drama. No, imagine gaining 60 pounds for the job that you got and then not having the job. So why did he? So Peter Jackson, the director of Lovely Bones. And I'm glad that the Lovely Bones is still being talked about. It's the best movie ever. He's speaking about it like at Cannes Film Festival. As he should, like seriously, as he should. So he's finally weighing in on Ryan Gosling's infamous recasting in the Lovely Bones, which I didn't even know that was happening. He was supposed to play Swarsh Ronin's dad. Sir Sharonin, like seriously put some respect on the Lovely Bones's name. But Susie was not her name in the movie. Susie. Susie Salmon. Yes. But revealed Salmon. I can't with you like Salmon Eos. What did you just pronounce? Red lights, Swarsh. Exactly. But Ryan Gosling revealed to Hollywood Reporter in 2010 that he was fired from the movie after he gained 60 pounds for the role without the director's consent. Oh, OK, that's what I mean. So, yeah, like why you can't when you get cast for something unless they tell you you can change the way you look like. No, but during a conversation in Cannes, after receiving an honorary award, Peter Jackson was asked about Ryan's revelation and spoke candidly about the decision to drop him from the movie. I just want to say the reporter who like this guy's getting like a lifetime achievement award and they ask about this like random movie. He's around the drop. 20 years ago. That reporter is a listener. Pulitzer. Yeah, Pulitzer. That's the type of shit we need to hear about. Yeah, like. This is so random. I love it. He said, I won't talk about any particular examples of actors because it's it's a personal private thing and it's not their fault. Anytime we we read cast an actor, it's actually our fault because we didn't get the casting right and we cast the wrong person for a role. It's not because they did anything wrong, so I'm not going to talk about individuals, but you just got to realize that what you're imagining isn't really quite happening, which means that we got it wrong and so we take full responsibility. He said, Ryan is a fantastic actor, as we know. Films are chemistry, both on camera and behind the camera. They're chemistry in terms of what the actor conveys to the audience of the film. It's just a complicated sort of amalgam of communication of how somebody gets into a group of gels, into a group of people, into a story, into a character. It's complicated. And usually you try very hard when you're planning the film, casting it, trying to get that gel kind of right. But occasionally we make our own mistakes. Like this is where I find like people in cinema to be so obnoxious. Like it's very complicated. You couldn't understand. Like it's literally like a movie. Yeah, pretending. Yeah, right. You're all just like a bunch of pretenders and we don't get it. OK. Ryan had said in 2010 that we had a different idea of how the character should look. I really believed he should be two hundred and ten. Why? We didn't talk very much during the pre-production process, which was the problem. It was you can't go rogue and just change the character. Like gain 60 pounds because you believe that he had. So like in the book, Olivia read the book. I never read the book. Was he fat? Like that was so like not the story. But maybe he couldn't like save his daughter because he I don't know. He said it was a huge movie and there's so many things to deal with and he couldn't deal with the actors individually. I just showed up on set and I'd gotten it wrong. Then I was fat and unemployed. Literally me. Obsessed. Oh, my God. Swarcy Ronan on a podcast in twenty twenty four spoke about it. No, I'm telling you, if you see the movie, it's like all these insanely talented, serious actors and then Mark Wahlberg. Like it makes no sense. Who plays her mom? He. Swarcy said that the cast had already done some prep by the time Ryan got fired and she had bonded with Ryan. I'm sad to see him go. Of course, I mean, who wouldn't want to work with Mr. Gosling? No, and also she was so young, you know? Yeah. So like that's a bummer. But I'm sure Mark Wahlberg was fantastic. I had no idea this movie had so much drama behind it. Oh, Rachel Wise. She plays the mother. She's such a. I'm telling you, it's such a Susan Sarandon, Stanley Tucci, Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos. Like I'm telling you, Sir. Sharon and Sir. She who went on to be like the biggest thing. It's such a A.G. Michalka. Classic. She must be like one of the friends from school. Give her flowers. And then like Mark Wahlberg. He must have been really trying to do like serious work at the time. Oh, yeah. Michael Imperioli is like the detective who figures it out. But I I watch some clips of lovely bones on Instagram. So me too. I see them all the time. It's one of those. And I've seen the scene of like Mark Wahlberg, you know, like poking around the backyard. Yeah. Chilling stuff. I've seen the scene of the sister up in Stanley Tucci's attic and she like drops the floor bird and he hears it and she runs out the window. Yeah. Yes, I have. And I didn't find Mark Wahlberg to be like. I mean, he had like a far apart. It's worth up. No, no, no. But if you like, like it's just he did a good job at the job, but like us knowing it's it's like weird, if you know, I guess. Yeah, he was like out of character. It was just weird. Maybe at that time, he was trying to be taken as like seriously as a serious actor. Yeah. And then he was like, this pays no no. Right. Back to Ted three. OK, are you ready for our fifth and final? If it's our fifth and final, that's brought to you by Poshmark, one of our new sponsors, but not a new company that we're not, you know, really familiar, familiar. So if you have a running list of pieces you've been hunting for forever, or you're just the type of person who likes like more, not like other girls, you know, more unique, creative pieces for your home or your fashion. Well, I highly recommend checking out Poshmark. So Poshmark is the leading fashion resale marketplace. It's shaped by real people in real style. 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Jude Law has done Nancy Meyers the holiday. Owen Wilson. Owen Wilson has. Probably. Yeah. Tony Hale. I love him. Buster. Buster. And also, do you think even more as Buster or as Gary from Veep? I feel like these days I actually associated more with Gary from Veep. Yes, but he is so Buster. Like the two come to mind. Yeah, but he's so Buster and also the name is like Buster. The Buster is iconic. Like the name when he like lost his hand. Yeah. Well, this is exciting. A lot of pressure, I want to say. Like not only is a Nancy Meyers film, like it's it they're sort of cultural landmarks for she doesn't make a movie that often. It's like, I feel like every maybe five or 10 years. So is her first one since the intern came out in 2015. That's crazy. And so there's a lot of pressure. She's really the best movie ever. They're all the best movie ever. Like she makes the best movies. So there's a lot of pressure because it's that. But also like her mom is Quentin Paltrow, like literally one of the greatest actresses. I mean, and her grandma. Like Danner. Yeah. Like the I'm sorry, the pressure's on. She better she better get to work with a coach. She's going to be amazing. You think it's in her blood? Yeah, it's true. She's she comes from a line. And also just like, look at her. We could just look at her. Yeah. No, no, no. Like, I don't want to just look at her. Like, give me something. She will. She's going to be amazing. And the movie, this is the premise. The movie is about a group of people making a film and the magic and mystery of what we do. So I think the working title at one point was called Paris Paramount, which I don't like. But I think it was like about the Paramount lot. Yeah. And like making a movie about Paris. It should be called like Paris at the Paramount, but I don't like it. Yeah. No, they're not doing it. Oh, good. OK. But like that's so we know it's about like Paris Paramount. Paramount. Oh, well, so just like can't stay away from movies about Paris. Yeah. Or maybe Paris can't stay away from him. That's beautiful. I love Owen Wilson. I love him, too. I really love. I love all of the Wilson. I love all of the Wilson's. Like, don't sleep on that on Emmett. No. Do not sleep on Emmett. Luke. Luke, the lesser known, but more handsome Wilson. Yeah. No, they're both like. They're both so successful, like we need to talk to their mother. I agree. They were raised by a great woman. Absolutely. We should also start a podcast where we talk to the mothers of great people and not just like people, but like siblings, you know, the Jonas Brothers mother. She's definitely. But she definitely has her hands full with them. Absolutely. Breaking up fights in the dressing room. They're probably always tattletailing on each other. But like, I would love to talk to her. That's actually would be a great, of course, Donna Kelsey. It actually would be a great podcast. A better than namesake, I want to say. So I think we would call it just mother. We eat this like actually really good. Don't steal it, you guys. Let us do it. OK. In our own time, we have a lot going on right now. But like one day we're going to have like time back. Yeah. It's like when you read that book about Winston Churchill's mother. Jenny. Like it's obviously interesting to read about a great man. But what's more even interesting is to read about their mother. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes great men are born from like evil mothers. Of course, of course. So we won't have the evil ones on. No, no, no. But I am also interested in like mothers of multiple greats. I mean, Andrea Swift is our first like dream guest. Mothers of multiple greats. Well, yeah. But also mothers of greats. Of greats. Yes. But I like it's you did it like more than one. Yeah. Yeah. You did it more than one. The Wilson mother. So it's not just the child was incredible. It's like you are the common denominator. The Colkin mom. The Colkin mom. The Hughes brothers mother. Of course. The hockey. She's a hockey player herself. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. It's a good idea. I feel like someone's going to steal it. Don't. Well, we have proof like that we came up with that. I guess like if someone stole it, it would mean like I'm getting the content I wanted without having to lift a finger. And I'm getting the interviews, you know, and the insights. Yeah. Meryl Street. She's got a couple of Nepo kids. I feel like I'm OK. But no, yeah, because she's like the famous person. We have to talk to her mother. She has Nepo kids. That's different. That's different than creating greatness from nothing. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to get back to our community and help out the girls in need. Write in tests if you're dealing with anything. DearToasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Today, we have two submissions and actually an update from last week. So let's start with the submissions. Hey, Jackson Turn, I have a huge problem and I don't think you're going to believe me. My boyfriend and I have been talking about marriage for a while, but I but we recently started to seriously discuss engagement, what I would like, what type of ring I want. While having one of the conversations the other day, my boyfriend dropped a bomb on me. There are two things that I have to agree with before he can even ask me to marry him. My boyfriend comes from generational wealth. The men of his family have been lawyers, judges, some are even politicians. It's almost like being around a royal family. One of the stipulations is signing a prenup, which I have no problem with. But the second thing shocked me. I have to go to their family doctor and get a whole body checkup. I mean, blood work for genetic testing, extensive family medical history questionnaire, even a psychological evaluation. I was completely unaware that this sort of thing happened in 2026. Is this normal or am I crazy? I don't know if I should marry this man. Oh, I don't like the psych of Al. I don't like that this is with their doctor. Like you can go to your own doctor and get all the paperwork. Look, I'm not crazy. I don't have any diseases. Fine. But like it being their doctor, they having like your blood. Like I don't know what are they going to do? Clone you. I feel like if things go south with you guys down the line, they'll like use release of Al and like they can say whatever they they can have their doctor evaluate you. They want to be like this woman's crazy. She's going to have custody. 2025. Yeah. She shouldn't like. Oh, Jackie's right. So like I actually think the idea of getting like, you know, a work up with a future partner. Like it's so crazy. But like I can understand that it's like good to know each other's like health. Right. But I don't like it with their doctor and I don't like the psych of Al. So I would I would push back, push back on the second. I'll be like, I'm happy to do all this with my physician. He's a great guy. We're like a third party. Yeah, but not with yours. Yeah. Let's say it's like a non-negotiable like no. That's really scary. Then you really have to be aware of what you're signing up for. And I do really think that will be like if things go south ever, it will all be used against you. Yeah. And but it's like, or would you want to be single? Right. Or like marry someone poor or like, or marry into this. Like, well, but like if you married into like the royal family, say like, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy shit like that. Absolutely. So like, do you want this life or you do not want this life? Think about your future. And these lives don't come for free. You know, absolutely not. There's no such thing as like a free ride. Yeah. And there was, I would have found it. I would push back and just push for your own doctors. Yeah. Without the. And I feel like that's reason that's actually like very giving of you because you're you're agreeing to everything. And if they say no, like that's a red flag for them. Like, what's the point? Like, why does it matter who's doctor it is? That means they're fudging with the. And I really don't like a psych of that. I don't know why they just gives me the willies. Are you like, what have you done? They're also fraudulent because they like give fake ones to everybody who goes on reality. And like crazy people. Right. Psych of out. You know, who have done crazy things. Yeah. To prove that they're not crazy. Yeah. Like you're just a sweet girl who wants to marry their son. I would, I would push back. I didn't know stuff like that was happening. Much like Cindy Arriva. It's kind of exciting. Yeah, it is. It is. But like girl protect yourself. Yeah. But it is. It has potential to be exciting. And I would also talk to a lawyer. Yes. Yes. You have to get one for the prenup anyway. But I would ask like a try and find a good lawyer. Don't cheap out. This is something you pay for. Like what all of this could mean for you one day, both positive and negative. And also if you're going to sign a prenup, make it good for you as well. Like, you know, it's not just going to be like you get nothing. You're out on your ear by loser. Yeah. Like you can get stuff in a prenup. Yeah. Absolutely. So get a good lawyer. Yes. And don't do anything without like lawyers present. Copper spell burden. Don't go against legal advice. Oh, I don't know what that means. I'll find out soon. Copper spell burden. All right. Next step. Hey, Swirlies. My best friend from out of town came to stay with my boyfriend and I this weekend and brought her new Prada bag. When we get to the house, she throws her stuff on the ground. We go in a house tour. No more than three minutes later. And what do we find? A few puncture marks in her Prada bag from our cat. I do want to preface this as my boyfriend's cat. And I've always hated it because it ruins plenty of things of mine. But needless to say, I was so pissed at this damn cat. And obviously it felt horrible for my friend. A few days later, a few days after she left, she told me there was nothing Prada can do to help the repair. And all they did was send her to a cobbler in New Jersey to try. She didn't seem happy with that option and felt that there was an expectation for us to replace the $4,000 bag. I do want to take some responsibility because it happened in my house. But honestly, it was careless of her to leave it on the floor. Even if my boyfriend and I split this expense, I don't think his cat's damages are my responsibility. But I also don't want to leave him with this hefty bill. What's the right call here? Love a Swirlie that would rather have been $4,000 on her own Prada bag. So this is very awkward. It's terrible. It's very bad. But you shouldn't have cast. And there's no right thing to do because if you replace the bag, like Yura Shmuck, you just bought her a $4,000 bag. But she has a fine bag, but you fucked it up with the stupid cat. I don't know, throwing it on the floor, that's an important part of the story. If it was up on a table, absolutely, you kind of have to replace the bag. But throwing it on the floor. You should be able to put your bag on the floor in someone's house without it being. Especially if they don't have kids. It's not a wild animal. It's true. It's just a cat. Yeah. Well, how much does this friendship mean to you, honestly? And also, if you do buy her a new bag, which I'm not saying that you shouldn't, I actually don't think that you should. You should get the old one. And then you have a little bang. She doesn't get to. You get a little banged up Prada bag. I really don't know. Yeah, I don't know the dynamics of the friendship. If this happened. And also, how poorly beat up. Is a bag not usable? Right. A couple of little holes. And what's the texture of a bag? Is it retan? That could withstand a little puncture. Is it leather? Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think you need to buy her a whole last new bag. Like, say this happened to you. Like, your friend. OK. Is it my bag or is my house? It's your house in Romeo punctured, your friend's new Prada bag. I would buy them a new bag. But my financial circumstances allow me to do that, and not everyone's too. It would kill me. Not very cardboard. But also, who's the person? It depends how much I love this friend. I know. And I do already hate Romeo. So yeah. Yeah. The thing is, you have to evaluate the friendship too. Yeah. Like, if you're OK with a little awkwardness, and she's always going to be mad at you. She came to stay with you and your boyfriend, like, you're close. Yeah. She's always going to be mad at you for this. Then you have to fix it. If you can. It sounds like you can afford to, but you just don't really know if you should. Is it on you? And it's like, yeah. And your boyfriend should pay for his love. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Why a cat? It's not your cat. 1,000% your boyfriend has to pay for it. But what if you won't? And now you're stuck with your friendship and your punctured back. I don't know. A boyfriend who won't buy a Prada bag and has a cat doesn't sound like a good boyfriend. I think you have a cat. Let's talk about that. What grown man has a cat alone? It's so creepy. Good. OK. I was like, oh god. Now here I am insulting everyone. Oh yeah. That was like my time in Nashville. One time in Nashville. I'm trying to say I was really young, but we rented. We hired this local crew. We didn't know anyone there. We were doing our show. And so we did our show in Nashville. So we hired. Like Rando's. Filmographers. I was, I forget how it came up. We were talking about journaling. It might have even been Dear Toasters. And she was talking about how she read her guys' journal. And it said things about her. Can we be mad? And Jack was like, no, you can't be mad when you read someone's journal. It's their thoughts. And then I was also like, but also, who the fuck journals? Like what guy journals? I was like, that's gay or whatever. And literally the guy behind the camera was like, I journal. And I was like, OK. I was like, that's, I didn't ask, but OK. Journaling is so evolved. No, I think actually I was like, I mean guys, do you journal? And one of them was like, yeah. But I asked. But how do you feel about it now? It's definitely like a mature, introspective thing to do. It really is. It's like so enlightened. If you're journaling, like you're not making money. And if you're a man, like that's your job. So why don't you go be a provider and save the journaling to the girls? What if they're making money and they're journaling? What if? I just don't see how that's possible, honestly. Writing things down takes forever. But like what if they don't watch TV and they don't watch sports and then. And we're not going to get along if you don't watch TV. OK. While I admire it, I don't know if I would want to be with somebody who journals, honestly. That's fair to say. But like, can you? Yeah. So you admire it as do I. I don't know if I could. Like that's just a lot. I do think like my. Vers me. My views on it have changed since that immature episode where I thought it was like a really weird thing to do. But that doesn't mean I want it for my own life. I completely agree. OK. Now, our third and final submission is actually an update from maybe one or two weeks ago. Remember when we were talking about, and I'll read the submission about the girl who found that her boyfriend slash husband was saying, like, how young are you? Yeah. OK. So here was the submission. Hey, Spirleys, in classic Deer Truster's fashion, I actually found out my husband was gay while searching through his computer and finding thousands of chats with him and men on Reddit. Think really vile, glory-hole talks of power-topping and meeting up with transgender people. It was wild. The real dark part is that I saw a chat where he asked someone, how young are you? Weird, right? As a standard question is, how old are you? So unfortunately, I didn't see the answer as the rest of the conversation. I was trying to take as many screenshots of things on his computer before he came down the stairs. I filed to her divorce. Obviously, yes, I have an attorney. But now I'm concerned that he's also into young children as well as men looking for input for my girlies. Love a toaster who asks questions. Now, we had told her that unless you have children, like, you need to just make it. I think we said run like the wind. Yes. I think that was the advice. Unfortunately, she has written us back saying, yes, I have children. Two little girls, two and four. He is actually saying that he's not gay. Only bored. Yeah, right. And he's saying how younger you was actually a question to obtain their age to make sure that they were old enough to chat with. Also, yeah, right. Obviously, he's a liar at baseline. It's been a year-long custody battle because I live in a state that loves joint custody. We go to court in two weeks. I wish I had enough evidence to send him to federal prison for the pedophilia, but unfortunately, I don't have proof. Hopefully, the DTQ can send positive vibes and prayers to me and my girlies. And he gets what he deserves. Thanks for reading my submission. I'm so sorry. I just feel like whatever the court decides, this is not our business. You should take the kids and move out of state. But then she's like, obstruction of justice. Yeah, kidnapping. I don't know. That's so bucked that you can have this creepy, pedophilic question, even remotely a question. And it's like joint custody when you have a mother who wants full custody and his sound of mind. I actually feel just talking to a lot of people who are just like, what is it? I actually feel like just talking to sexually to people on Reddit is very time consuming. And he actually might not end up using all of his custody. Yeah. Because it will get in the way. People don't want joint custody. They want to fight for it. And they want to punish you. But they don't actually want kids half the time. Men. Men always want joint custody just to hurt the moms. And then when it comes time, it's like, oh, I have to do bed, bath, bottle. Never mind. I'll pick them up next week. So I have faith that he's just doing this to hurt you. Great. Let him. But the kids will be with you. Yeah. Just have your. Give him a lot of red 40 before they get picked up. Give him a lot of red 40. Give him a lot of sugar. Kind of make them. Hand them over to him at like 5 o'clock, like the worst hours of the day. He'll get tired in a couple of weeks. Yeah. I'm really sorry. Like, that's awful. That really made me sick. Yeah. But we love you. Yeah, we do. And just like get a great lawyer who can drill home the fact that he is like a sexual predator. Yeah. Screenshots, screenshots, receipts, proof, timeline. Even if you don't think it'll work, like there's now a record of it in court. I think I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I listed I already cast box all the places web this in a podcast and that's the trusty five-story We have a real setting and wickly town to be our hope you guys have an amazing day. I will see you tomorrow. Love you. Bye