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Did Dante Moore Make the RIGHT Decision?!

24 min
Jan 14, 20263 months ago
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Summary

PTI hosts discuss NFL coaching vacancies following Mike Tomlin's departure from Pittsburgh, college football QBs Dante Moore and Ty Simpson's decisions to stay in school or enter the draft, and NBA drama surrounding Giannis Antetokounmpo's booing incident in Milwaukee. Steve Young joins to analyze CJ Stroud's ball security issues and playoff matchups.

Insights
  • NFL head coaching jobs are increasingly evaluated on quarterback availability and franchise stability rather than current roster talent alone
  • College athletes now have significant financial incentives through NIL deals that can rival or exceed early NFL draft compensation, fundamentally changing career decision calculus
  • Star players booing their own teams signals deeper organizational dysfunction and may accelerate trade demands rather than resolve underlying issues
  • Ball security and pocket mechanics can be improved through deliberate practice, but dynamic QBs face inherent exposure risks when escaping the pocket
  • Integrated, cohesive defensive units with symbiotic play patterns are more dangerous than collections of individual star athletes
Trends
NIL money reshaping college athlete career decisions with multi-million dollar staying powerNFL coaching market increasingly quarterback-dependent with limited elite QB options availableStar player dissatisfaction in small-market NBA teams creating trade speculation cyclesDefensive integration and scheme cohesion becoming more valuable than individual defensive talentPlayoff performance expectations rising for teams with championship-caliber rostersBall security becoming critical evaluation metric for young NFL quarterbacksInjury resilience and team adaptability emerging as competitive differentiators in playoffs
Topics
NFL Head Coaching Vacancies and Job AttractivenessQuarterback Availability in NFL Free AgencyCollege Football NIL Compensation vs NFL Draft EconomicsStar Player Retention in Small-Market NBA TeamsBall Security and Pocket Mechanics in NFL QuarterbacksDefensive Line Pass Rush StrategiesPlayoff Performance Under PressureTight End Impact on Quarterback PerformanceTeam Injury Management in PlayoffsWind and Cold Weather Quarterback PerformanceOffensive Line Vulnerability AssessmentDefensive Integration and Scheme CohesionRed Shirt Rule Changes in College FootballNBA Player-Team Relationship Dynamics
Companies
Pittsburgh Steelers
Primary focus of discussion regarding Mike Tomlin's departure and attractiveness of head coaching vacancy
Atlanta Falcons
Discussed as most attractive NFL coaching job due to offensive weapons and divisional opportunity
Tennessee Titans
Mentioned as attractive coaching opportunity if Cam Ward becomes quarterback
Baltimore Ravens
Discussed as attractive job with Lamar Jackson as established franchise quarterback
Las Vegas Raiders
Mentioned as coaching opportunity with number one draft pick for quarterback selection
Milwaukee Bucks
NBA team where Giannis Antetokounmpo booed fans, creating organizational drama
Houston Texans
Referenced regarding CJ Stroud's ball security issues in playoff game
San Francisco 49ers
Discussed regarding George Kittle injury impact and team resilience in playoffs
Chicago Bears
Mentioned regarding playoff matchup and D'Andre Swift's rushing performance
New England Patriots
Discussed regarding offensive line vulnerability against Texas pass rush
Oklahoma City Thunder
Mentioned as winning against San Antonio Spurs in recent game
University of Oregon
Dante Moore's college football team where he decided to return rather than enter NFL draft
University of Alabama
Ty Simpson's college football team; discussed regarding quarterback draft decisions
People
Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach who departed, triggering discussion of NFL coaching vacancy attractiveness
Dante Moore
Oregon quarterback who decided to return to college rather than enter NFL draft for financial reasons
Ty Simpson
Alabama quarterback choosing to enter NFL draft despite multi-million dollar college transfer offers
Aaron Rodgers
Discussed as potential Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback option but unlikely to join new coaching regime
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Milwaukee Bucks star who booed fans during game, creating organizational drama and trade speculation
CJ Stroud
Houston Texans quarterback with five fumbles in playoff game, discussing ball security improvements
Steve Young
Former NFL quarterback providing expert analysis on ball security, weather conditions, and playoff strategies
Matt Stafford
NFL quarterback claiming to love playing in wind and cold weather conditions
George Kittle
San Francisco 49ers tight end whose injury impacts quarterback Brock Purdy's offensive options
Brock Purdy
San Francisco 49ers quarterback facing loss of all-pro tight end George Kittle in playoffs
D'Andre Swift
Chicago Bears running back with strong regular season performance and playoff contribution
Ben Johnson
Offensive coordinator who improved Chicago Bears rushing attack with D'Andre Swift
Kirk Cousins
Quarterback mentioned as making Atlanta Falcons coaching job more attractive
Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens quarterback making franchise attractive for potential head coaching candidates
Cam Ward
Quarterback prospect making Tennessee Titans coaching opportunity attractive
Jalen Hurts
Alabama quarterback referenced regarding professional earnings from NFL compared to college
Mac Jones
Alabama quarterback referenced regarding professional earnings from NFL compared to college
Quotes
"I think both smart I think both these kids made the right choice for them"
Mike WilbonCollege football QB decisions segment
"I don't think anybody has the right to tell me how I should act on the basketball court if I've been here 13 years"
Giannis Antetokounmpo (referenced)NBA Milwaukee Bucks segment
"You can't get through an interview about football without Wilbon talking about his Bears"
Tony KornheiserSteve Young interview
"The most accurate passers generally are great in wind and in rain and that's why they kind of go together"
Steve YoungWeather conditions discussion
"Missing George is a problem but the 49ers seem to be a team that figures out a way to rally and go get it done"
Steve Young49ers injury discussion
Full Transcript
From 30 for 30 podcasts Brian Pada senior defensive lineman from Miami gunned down The key to this case it's blind I before he died he was on a phone arguing what's about this might be a hit you want to truth We had a killer monster murder at the U listen now Part in the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbond. We are just 97 hours away from kickoff of Rams bears Tony. I'm headed to Chicago to watch Tony corner I should put the steak houses on alert prepare to comp Wilbond. Oh, he got prime one 12. He got trade data One 12 is in Miami. Oh, it's not in they don't have one either What about trade data that you were telling me about? They do that. They can't be bought. Oh, they're in the comp you Come on, we just gave more was for when the cost of Warms to Steve. Well, I'm gonna pti boys and girls in today's episode Janus booze back at Milwaukee fans don't take more returns to Oregon and Steve young joined just for five good minutes But we begin today with an offshoot a Mike Tomlund's decision yesterday to leave the Pittsburgh Steelers Our question is not necessarily who is the best replacement for Tomlund our question is about the attractiveness of the Steelers job It is currently one of nine NFL openings Atlanta the Giants Tennessee the Raiders Baltimore Arizona Miami Cleveland and now Pittsburgh Well, but as the Pittsburgh job the most attractive one. Nope not to me No, no no and and by job I don't think you could just look at football personnel You got to look at the history of the franchise management so many of these things are still family owned You know working for the Roonies is a pretty good way to go That's right. So that falls you ahead of some other people that might have better personnel on field But even even with that Tony I'm gonna say Atlanta because it looks like they got people the Falcons where you could go if you're a really good coach And you could either win now particularly in that division or come close now And I'm looking at beach on Robinson and I'm looking at pits the tight end and I'm looking at Drake London They got players they got a couple players defensively that you just okay There's a there's a half dozen people here at the core of this I'm ready to coach them so I think Atlanta So my answer to this question is quarterback dependent okay, who is going to be the quarterback for the Steelers Is the new guy gonna come in here and wave a magic wand and just get a quarterback? Because in the last what five or six years Can he pick it? Mason Rudolph Mitch Trubisky has been Justin just a few Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers without particular success if they made the playoffs They went out immediately so I mean Let me refer to my notes here. I mean I thought there was a chance After the game on Monday night that Aaron Rodgers was indicating he wanted to stay that he was opening that window because he talked about how much he enjoyed himself that year But when Tomlin left I think that window closed yeah for Rodgers as well I don't think a coach is gonna come in and want a 42 year old Aaron Rodgers unless that coaches Mike McCarthy And I think like you you need a quarterback so I would put Atlanta But I'm thinking of Kirk cousins in Atlanta that makes it attractive I'm thinking cam ward makes Tennessee a tract of and I'm confident that Lamar Jackson makes Baltimore attractive the other The other teams I don't know although at least with the Raiders you have the number one pick So if you want to quarterback you can go get one the Raiders we both have said in the last week are broken And I gotta see a whole lot more here's here's the problem with the Steelers and their ownership is great And they have a long and storied history They have no offense they're 175 yards of offense against Houston that's a rebuild Mike Yeah, that's a rebuild rebuilds in the in that old Ross happen more quickly than they do say in the NBA That's right and major league baseball they do you can But they're two none the team they're two offensively in a year. Yeah, so maybe Pittsburgh could do that you maybe Let's move to college football quarterback news Dante Moore is returning to Oregon rather than entering the NFL draft But Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson is sticking with his NFL draft plans Despite transfer offers that approach eight figures if you believe his agent Tom what do you make a more decision to stay at Oregon and Simpson's decision to leave Alabama for the NFL both Sisions seem to me like they are economically based I'm gonna start with the with the Alabama kid. I think he's betting on himself I think he's betting that he can be a first-round pick because even if he is the 32nd and last pick in the first round He will get a contract worth 16 million dollars over four years, right? So he's got I think one year left in college. What can you get in college? Four million six million eight million the report was 6.5 million it's not 16 million dollars You better off if you can make the first round It's not a quarterback heavy draft man. Doze is gonna go on now what Moore just did more acknowledge that people watch the Indiana Oregon game where he had a bad game So he's gonna go back and prove himself so that he can get more money down the road I mean, I I think if the Alabama kid Can show well in the combine and get to the first round that's a big deal Maybe Pittsburgh will take them. They need a quarterback Yeah, Tony, you know the great thing is these decisions are no longer perilous Because there's some money. Yes, right now. Yes I mean, so who else who walks across the graduation stage at Alabama or Oregon of the classmates I can walk across and cap and gown. I'm gonna make that one. Anybody gonna have three four million weight? No, no They're not no so so so even if even if there's injury even if there's underperformance Even if there's something else But falling a kid that we can't even identify There's money there and there's opportunity to as Moore says gets get better He's gonna go play as something familiar You know the team around him that could win the national championship people thought Oregon was a year away Anyway, when we get to this year, but but there's more money in the pros if you are a starter if you're starter of Alabama Let's go backwards. Jalen hurts Alabama to a tongue of I lower Alabama Even Mac Jones Alabama the amount of money they have made in the pros right now dwarfs whatever you could get It's how it's like yeah, so so and if you're an Alabama kid you go if you're the quarterback of Alabama You are assuming you're gonna get a chance at the pros. That's why you what's the best Alabama? What the smart path and now you've got options You do I think both smart I think both these kids made the right choice for them Made the right choice for them. Okay, let's move to the NBA where the boobirds were out last night in Milwaukee The bucks fell behind in the first half by a billion points to the timber wolves who were without Anthony Edwards and Rudy go there the bucks proud boo the team they booed their best player Yama's on to the fun goal I'm to the crumpled booed back early in the second half. Hey sitting on the court after scoring a bucket and getting fouled Real bond what does all of this state to you? Okay Yama's for anybody who's covered the league and been around if you're around Milwaukee Yama's is a very very very very very likable guy anyway This makes me love him that he booed back that he gave them two thumbs down now you know look You spent the you covered the league Milwaukee is still a small market. That's right And there are sensitivities maybe in Milwaukee that don't exist in New York and Chicago and Boston and Philly and LA I don't know how this is gonna play But if I'm if I'm not the cumpo you know, I don't think he's gonna be there that long anyway I'm gonna get to all of these and so I I love that he booed them I don't care what the reaction is if I'm honest because you know what I'm gonna say yes to some deal at some point anyway I am the one person in this show who is apparently getting tired of Yana Santa to cumpo and all of the drama Surrounding whether he's gonna stay or whether he's gonna go he doesn't create whether yes, he does he's hard and parcel of it Whether he's going to ask for a trade or not ask for a trade but he has whether he's being treated fairly or unfairly You know Look We got into the Mike Tomlin story because five or six or eight weeks ago People started to chant fire Tomlin. Yeah, and I sat here and I said that's wrong Yeah, he was a super bowl champion. I think it's wrong to boo want to come out. I do too. He is an NBA champion. Yes, but The story there's a sameness to the story that for me is it's just getting me down I don't know that I would have said this until cumpo said this last night I don't think anybody has the right to tell me how I should act on the basketball quarter If I've been here 13 years on quote you down 31 at the half at home He didn't acknowledge they didn't probably play as hard as he'd like to you have said what that can't you have said consistently He will be traded before the trade deadline. Yeah, I think this might hasten it because I think unlike you I think this is a bad look. I think it's a bad look when your best player is sitting on the court booing the whole thing. It's a bad look. Yeah, I think that's not what I'm glad he did it I mean in the people you want to boo y'all this how you tell me exactly how many championships how many banners are hanging in Milwaukee two two one with kareem and one with young so the other boo him really other part that I would say to this is they've been a very Disappointing team in recent they have they got rid of two coaches and he had a part in that Yeah, he right now. Maybe it's landing on him. Yeah, maybe as we said about Tom and maybe he's there too long My Corsinary word on this is he can win a championship don't get rid of him and then get angry if he wins a championship somewhere else I got a escape of playing the playoffs which Seems to be a problem almost every year since he did win. Let's take a break when we come back CJ Stroud had five fumbles in the Texans wild card win We will ask steve young how he took care of the ball We'll also ask him in quarterbacks to actually love playing in the wind and cold Like Matt Stafford claims he done. You're still sure on to come up. We'll be gone How about 80% 80% you know that's I think I think you've got to you can't have that no You can't it's Milwaukee It's not New York City. 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It's the middle of the night in a small town on the jersey shore Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge a search gets underway for the missing driver 19 year old Sarah Stern is it a missing person is it a suicide at this point nobody knows Old friendships buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life I'm juju Chang from 2020 and ABC audio listen now to bridge of lies wherever you get your podcasts We've got NFL playoff questions for our great friend and the man who I urge is a young quarterback To own the data All the famous Steve Young will start with this CJ Stroud Says he's got to work on ball security after putting the ball on the ground five times. Yes, I would think so What did you do Steve to keep the ball secure? Well, the challenge of course is that like unlike accuracy you can't teach accuracy You can teach ball security You can in the office he's in two hands in the ball when you go to move in the pocket You can get better at it and CJ obviously needs to get better at that but that can't happen this week The other problem that we have with more dynamic quarterbacks is the second that the most intense moment of the in the pocket Happens as you realize I got to go and then as you start to go if you don't protect the football It's now exposed and so a lot of times the more dynamic the game is from a quarterback position The more likely you're going to have the ball on the ground And that's why again going back to just drilling drilling drilling That's the key to making sure that you're better in the pocket with the ball and And look CJ's got another problem. He's big enough like Ben Rathusberger where he can stiff on the lineman He's the six lineman right he's like here take that now with one arm. I'm in a ripet and That exposes the ball as well. So it's CJ's got two problems He's dynamic he can get out and he's big enough to step on the office of lineman and put it at risk I would think wind and cold might have something to do with ball security but Matt Stafford tells Jim Gray he loves the wind and the cold and he's going to be just fine in Chicago Steve You've played in that stuff does any quarterback love the wind and the cold The cold nobody if you're down under 10 degrees Fahrenheit No one's going to be happy that's just a pain the ball gets slippery It's like no one's going to say I'm great at that But the wind and the rain are both related to why you like this I like oh, I can't wait to play in the wind or the rain But you can kind of be neutral about like it's fine because the way you throw the football is you throw with your fingers Where all other guys will throw with their hand I don't know any other way to describe it and when the hand throwers Struggle because they lose the grip and the and count Brady talked about this over the weekend about how to throw in the wind Now that was a good little repertoire about it But you've got to have the nose down and the only way to get the nose going down the way you want it to Is it come out of your fingers and so though the most accurate passers generally are great in wind and in rain And that's why they kind of go together Do you remember that game in Chicago? I think Joe started I'm not sure if you even played in it, but the NFC championship game where it was like zero Do you remember that game? Mine is 28 windshield. That was a remarkable game and 28 to three The che the the the bears never got off their back. They never as good as they were They never got off their back. It was a rough rough ride for that. So much for the cold for the California boys The patriots face a very fierce Texas pass rush With the offensive line if it's not shaky. It seems vulnerable How would you approach that challenge? What you know is want to be a sitting duck and so it's all the aspects of it, right? It's like I remember we used to Kind of attack the all the you know the defense alignment make them worry like all of a sudden we bring 10 brain Joe's out in motion and then he would You know block the tackle out of nowhere I don't know if the play even work, but it made the tackle the whole day think Well, where are you guys coming from? Kind of slowed things that you want to get that you want to be third and short of course You don't want to have long your hearted you want to the quarterbacks got to get on the move get out of the pocket kind of change the The the rally points so in many ways the toughest job when the world's played quarterback behind a line That's you know gets the best defensive lines in the in the league and this defensive line hasn't doesn't have one star It's got four stars in that way they calm relentlessly at you and that makes it super difficult. So you better to me Run the football right everyone says what's the answer of football run it? Well, that's a way to handle This kind of a dilemma and then third and ten third and twelve third and fifteen you know you're gonna be in a jam You don't want to be in that ten you know if you want to be in third and third down twelve times Nine of them need to be shorter than five yards. That'd be amazing This defense two Steve this this defense is that good. There's there's no hype involved for what you see Yeah, they're really they're integrated. They're not just a bunch of good athletes They're integrated and how they play defense and they pass it off and they work together It's like a symbiotic kind of feel that that's the most dangerous You know those great Raven defenses. They were all integrated like they all worked together and it's like they they all have like avatars like they've connected and they you couldn't beat them because they all They knew what was coming kind of as a group as a they didn't play individual defense and so um yeah, I think they're that good We will get you out of here on this you can't get through an interview about football without willbound talking about his bears Which of course you watch to do just now We will talk about your tears talk about your team 49ers George Kittle is the latest nine or to go out What does the loss of a player like that mean on a macro and a micro level to a quarterback like Brock Purti? Well the macro level is that You know he's the face of the 49ers With Fred Rowe Warner with experience the coming out of the locker room in the locker room leadership On the you know on the field like he's the guy that people you know he'll rally people They'll make a speech. He'll those are all big aspects that that you lose in the macro level and and uh and then also You know you know In a micro level he's he's the guy that is all pro tight end and when you have an all pro tight end There's nothing greater as a quarterback to have an all pro tight end that because the proximity of all the plays are near to you You know Jerry Rice is out there 30 yards. It's not as intimate right it's like I need I'm third and four and I need somebody to get open Like I want that all pro tight end to kind of go open rub against the land back or turn around and throw them the ball and get another first down so Missing George is a problem that the issue for the 49ers though. It feels like injuries with Fred Warner and Nick Bosa like this whole year has been so injury prone That it was the bug in the system, but suddenly after last week's game it feels like it's the feature like yeah We lost George Kittle, but how do we respond? We rally and go beat people on the road in the playoffs. So Um, I'm not do meaning anything about George. It's amazing. It's a terrible loss But the 49ers seem to be a team that's kind of figures out a way to rally and go get it done As always, it's a great pleasure to have you, Steve. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. See you guys Let's take one last break still to come to Red Sox make news and free agency and a victory celebration during an all-se open qualifier proves Pretty much Steve is the first person to use the word avatar in conversation without referring to a movie I think he has to get a lot of credit for that Happy time people happy 27th birthday de André Swift yeah, we'll bond this ones for you Swift is a Chicago Bears lead running back in the regular season swift rush for a thousand 87 yards and nine touchdowns Career highs in the wildcard game against the packer Swift had 54 yards and a rushing touchdown in 13 attempts You also had two catches for 38 yards Swift is it is second season with the bears He was originally a second round pick by the Detroit Lions in the 2020 draft out of Georgia He had a pro-bowl season in 2023 in Philadelphia his hometown when he rushed for a thousand 49 yards and five touchdowns Swift went to the bears as a free agent will bond the floor is yours a great many of us and by us I mean me I Started the season thinking you know Swift is nice. He's not the guy who's gonna lead a real rushing attack And he did against the Cowboys in week three when we were already on two And then after the by-week when Ben Johnson got him and a rookie Kamenunga got those guys together and they have been Beastly ever since either first or second in the NFL and rushing Yay, mr. Swift oh for the housey on days of your old and five prediction happy anniversary Ben Watson On the state 20 years ago the Patriots tie-down chase down speedy Broncos cornerback champ Bayley After Bayley had picked off Tom Brady in the end zone and was headed for a pick six Watson knocked Bayley out of bounds on the one yard line and what turned out to be a 100 yard interception return Denver ultimately won the game knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs ending their hope of winning a third straight superbowl Bill Bella chick later said if there was ever a picture of a play that the Patriots would hang up for all to see that occurred during a loss Watson's play would be that one such a great play was more impressive That was a play in the Superbowl Pittsburgh area zone of house on the chase down That's the most Happy trails the Sebastian off nurse victory celebration at Australian Open Qualifier the 29 year old Austrian thought he'd want to qualify When he went up seven to one and a third set tie break only to be informed by the chair rump that final set grand slam Ty breaks or the first to ten by two no problem often still had a six-bowl lead but not for long I hope I get this name right American mishesh Basava ready or boss of a ready storm back to win the tie break and the match and then celebrated by giving the choke sign Look, it's great that he won but you can't give the other guy the choke sign didn't that read somewhere to he's like a Pacer's fan or Indy he got it from Reggie we're gonna blame Reggie Miller Reggie Miller was specifically greatest. Okay It was definitely aimed at Spike Lee was who had been so great I'm begging on him for the whole year if not his whole career, but it just kids of Pacer guy amy come on now You don't do this to a to somebody who is your opponent should have known the rule would you have known the rule? Yeah, that it goes to 10 Yes, it's I think I would have known the rule too, but the new what the choke sign is there any empathy? Is there any sympathy? No, the choke sign the world. Let's go to the big finish. Let's do it the thunder beat the spurs last night. Uh-huh Yes significant isn't it you'll be waiting on that one game you're right They knew they had to beat San Antonio. They could not go through with another one of those it gets swept so it is significant. Yeah FBS FBS coaches change the red shirt rule from a maximum of four games to nine You approved so you're telling me that a player can play nine games in a ten or a seven game schedule and still read these and didn't get ridiculous it is that's completely ridiculous Fricin the shambles John ramen cam smith all committed to the live tour this year is that a big deal you think it is Yeah, I do think it is because I think I think the pga needs these guys you don't seem to think so not as much as you do especially rom I mean, oh, are you beating the best in the world if roms not there? Huh, well Yeah, but you they play in the major so you have you get a sense of see every week. I think it's a big deal Red socks agreed to five year hundred thirty-minute deal with Ranger Suarez. Okay by you It's really good until it off you that's a good get for now last one Kansas cage second ranked Iowa stayed its first loss to the season last night. How'd you know they would do that Just home court advantage you know we both been there if that's not the hardest place in america to play off It's in the top three right yeah, I think that's We're out of time. We were trying to do better the next time. I'm Tony Cornage our Mike Wilbond same time tomorrow