Phantom Buzz - Europe's Skies Hijacked by Shadow Drones

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They're getting them from all over the world. And those drones don't seem to be doing what these drones are doing. They did whip out the most advanced anti-drone technology we have and had no effect, correct? Yeah, that's very, very accurate. We got word from reliable sources that there was footage of a pyramid shaped object lifting up out of the bay and hovering and loitering over this critical infrastructure. This is weaponized. This is weaponized. I'm George Knapp, hanging out in temperate and beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada. I'm telling you, October is the nicest time of the year to be here. I am joined by my friend and colleague, Jeremy Corbell, who is keeping a low profile somewhere on the West Coast. Jeremy, how's it going? Pretty good, man. Yeah, just hiding out, trying not to talk too much. I'm trying to listen more. I see that you listened to my suggested dress code, right? Yeah, yeah. Sit and tie. That's right, as always. We got a lot to cover today. We're going to go check in with our friend, Christopher Sharp, talk about drone a palooza. But first, I want to revisit something that we touched on last week at great interview with your friend, Daniel, about something that was seen, gigantic triangle hovering right over a runway at Eglin Air Force Base. You have an update on that. Yeah, just, you know, look, Daniel was a great witness. He went through the entire process of vetting with Congress. And he has a very small experience in that he just saw something. But it gave me a lot of hope because if what he saw is something we were operating, then maybe we do have some control over this really extraordinary technology. I don't know what to make of it, but I thought bringing him out on weaponized was important because he didn't testify to Congress. And it wasn't like he was waiting to come out on weaponized. He literally couldn't do it. The weekend, Congress had him. He was willing to do it. He couldn't do it. He was, I don't know, give away too much, but it was a very positive thing in his life that he was doing on that on that time period. So I just thought, let's bring him out. Now, what's happened since then, since then is that people have come and said, we also saw this extraordinary technology, Camp Rudder, Eglin Air Force Base, they're not willing to go on record at this time. You know, I'm trying. I'm trying to get them to come forward. So it was just kind of neat to hear a little bit more about people that have seen this extraordinary triangular shaped technology that doesn't seem to lift with air displacement or jets or anything like that. Now, I don't know. I don't have anything else to report on that other than I think I've been able to with Daniel to identify exactly where he was when he saw this. And that was kind of cool. So I created an image. I don't know for sure. You know, there's still a lot I got to do to make sure, but this is at Eglin Air Force Base Camp Rudder. There's a troop medical clinic number eight. So they call it the TMC and I went back, you know, in historic records and found in 2006 that there was this one medical building and it hasn't changed in 20 years. Interestingly enough, so this has to be the building that he was being treated at. And then, you know, he had said, they look like there was an open field and tree tops. There's only one place without a lot of buildings in sight where you'd have this view. And I showed it to him. He's like, damn, that's got to be it. So preliminary results. But it was because you asked me, George, you wanted to see this, you know, what was he looking at? So it was really cool when you go into Google Maps, you can kind of go back in time and it really hasn't changed. But I think we found where he saw it. Now, again, the size of the craft, he's doing a guesstimate. He really pushed him for a guesstimate of the size of craft. The distance from him, it's a guesstimate. This was 19 years ago, but the angle of vision, I think we nailed it. So it's the TMZ Medical Clinic 8, Camp Rudder, and it's going right out to where this field and the tree tops. So let me put this image up and you can kind of see his angle of vision and what he was looking at in this huge black, silent triangle. And again, you're not carving this in stone. This is based on the best available information. This is where you think it is based on what he told you and maps of what the base looked like a long time ago. Yeah, we're getting medical records from 19 years ago. It's like, you know, to make sure this is the spot, but it is the only spot that was treating army rangers for things like parachute jumps where they like hurt themselves. I mean, this was the spot. It's been the spot for 20 years. I'm pretty confident. But yeah, I always have the option of reforming my opinion. If I find later, it's, it's pretty awesome if those other two witnesses are willing to speak to us, even if it's we have to block out their, their identity. Yeah, I, you know, I'm pushing for it. A lot of people don't want to come forward because they feel like, well, if this is some secret tech, you know, we want to keep a secret national security. I totally understand that. But nobody signed any A's or anything like that. So I think we'll get them. I think we'll get them. Segway here to something else. Of course, today we kind of have a return of drone a calusa. Yeah. Recall from last year, drones everywhere over key installations, they shut down Langley Air Force Base. They shut down Wright Patterson Air Force Base. They were seen for several weeks by hundreds of thousands of people over New Jersey, over a nuclear plant, over sensitive military installations. They were out here in the Southwest over a plant 42. And the same thing happened in almost all these cases. They'd come in out of nowhere undetected. They'd loiter around making themselves obvious. The lights are on. Nobody knew where they're from. They would leave and could not be tracked. None of them were shot down. We don't know who was behind them or what was going on. And now the same thing has been happening a year, almost a year later across Europe. You'll recall there were several, a couple of UK military bases, joint bases that were overflowed by these drones. I think we were told by our friend Chris Sharp that there were attempts to bring them down with the best anti-drone technology. Poof, did nothing. Now they've been making a nuisance of themselves over several European countries. And you have to wonder who's behind it, what's going on, where these things are from. We have exactly the right guy to answer those questions, right? Yeah, our man in the UK, as you said, Chris Sharp, he's always been on this kind of stuff. I am excited. He has Liberation Times. He's got some great articles. He's really been dogged about the UAP thing, but also about the national security implications of what we're calling drones at this time. So he just knows far more than I do about this. And he's always come on the show and given us great information. I love his articles. Everybody should go check out Liberation Times. But yeah, Chris Sharp, let's bring him on. Looking sharp, Chris Sharp. What's going on, man? So I took George's advice from last week. I thought we were all going to be in suits. I thought we were coordinating this, but obviously someone didn't get the memo. Hey, George. Look how good that guy looks, Jeremy. Why can you not do that? He's very bad. He's handsome, man. I could never live up to it. Looking great, Chris. Chris, it's great to see you. We've been following your reporting as always. Excellent work. The thing that's different this time is you were kind of the lone ranger reporting on this before. And in the last couple of months, we've seen a lot of media interest across Western Europe, other news organizations who've covered this as well. Must be nice to have some company this time, huh? Yes. It's extraordinary to see how many headlines these incidents have actually generated and to see all the open source intelligence X accounts covering it as well. So it's great to get lots of information coming in and just trying to find all the patterns from the other previous events that we've been covering. So yeah, it's been excellent. Can you give us the big picture when this current wave of drone sightings started, where they've been seen, Jeremy, unless you want to start another way. No, that sounds great. I want to hear the basics from you, Chris. Yeah, sure. So it began late September. I think it was around the, it was the, I think it was the 22nd September when Copenhagen Airport was closed down for hours because drones had been spotted and it was interfering with flights. They closed it down. And one of my friends, Martin, was at the scene. He was actually drinking in a bar, I believe, when he heard about the instance and the fact that Copenhagen Airport was shut down. He was like, I'm going there and he took a taxi. So we got like a real first hand insight about how tense the situation was and he describes going to Copenhagen Airport and there being special forces and police present at the scene. And it was very, very tense. They told him to get away, get out and he didn't. He just covered it. Brilliant. Very, very good reporter. I think he would make. And yeah, so that was the first night and from our understanding, nothing was taken down that night and they were not able to confirm where these drones originated from, who was controlling them. And from my understanding, based on all the other events as well, it seems as though the detection systems or both the detection systems and the jamming systems may have failed. So that was the first night and then they branch out over military installations, critical infrastructure in Denmark, France, Belgium, Germany. So this is a Europe wide kind of event happening, a series of events happening and they also closed down Munich Airport as well. So unlike the other drone events I'd been covering, it seems this really had a big impact on civilian infrastructure such as airports, which is kind of new from what I previously saw because it's usually always been military installations. And the backdrop I guess here is the fact that Europe is in a very, very tense situation with Russian aggression. We know that Russians have flown drones into Polish airspace and other native countries. And I think the difference for those is that we know they've come from Russia. They've been able to be tracked. However, with these incidents, we don't know where they've come from, like the previous ones I've been covering. I go far back as far as 2019 with the case that you both covered in terms of the West Coast incidents. We don't know who to control or are. We don't know where the origin is from. We don't have any answers, unfortunately. And another parallel with that case that you covered in 2019 with the case that we've seen now over Europe is the fact that they thought that they could actually pin it down to a, they call it a shadow fleet, I believe. So the Chinese have a shadow fleet of cargo ships and so do the Russians. So in 2019, they've bought the drones, forming around US warships came from the Bass Strait, which is a Hong Kong registered cargo ship. They searched it as we knew, as we know. They had eyes on it. Nothing came from that ship. And then, you know, with these events, they thought they were coming from a Russian. Well, I think it was registered under another country, but it was linked to the Russian shadow fleet and they searched that fleet, the French military search that ship and nothing was found. So again, we just left in position that we have no idea as the public where these things have come from and why they can't take them down. It's, it's pretty crazy. And I certainly can't explain it. Hey there weaponized listeners. When I put on the right clothing, it feels like armor. A thoughtfully built wardrobe comes down to pieces that mix well and last. That's where Quince shines premium fabrics considered design and everyday essentials that feel effortless to wear and dependable, even as the seasons change or the skies fill with things we can't explain. Here's what I can tell you and some of it is classified. Quince has the everyday essentials. 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Go to quince.com slash weaponized for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash weaponized. See you on the next episode. Yeah, the 2019 events to this day, they don't know where they were launched from. They don't know where they landed. And this is what really kind of made that crossover between UAP and what we're calling drone or unmanned aerial vehicle. You know, these objects were there without wings without rotors. You saw that in the thermal image that's kind of gone around now that George and I put out, you know, you're not seeing the normal displacement of air or heat. The whole bass straight thing was ridiculous to me. That was pushed forward as like, Oh, absolutely. If you look at Wikipedia, it came from the bass straight. Our own government said that we went and looked at the bass straight. George and I got somebody his sole task was to watch the bass straight to see if anything landed and launched. He said on our show, I wish I could report to you that it did. It would explain a lot. Nothing came from the bass straight. But the typical like Wikipedia thing is that they were launched and landed from bass straight. It is untrue. It is false. It is not true. It is not true. And so we're kind of stuck with this idea of who's the operator of these units and the people involved in 2019, they still want answers. I'm not talking to people in every agency that I could list and they do not know where these units came from in 2019. And if you're saying that's the same now, same now in Europe, this is something that is a it's changed warfare. It's change whoever this is from. This has changed the whole dynamic of the theater of war. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You've only got to look at the battlefields in Ukraine and Russia and about how drones are really changing everything and they can result in mass casualties. And we did have a proposal, I believe at the beginning of the year from Lula Elizondo about having a component within the National Security Council so that it would be a sole purpose of a unit within there to actually distinguish what is UAP versus what are drones. And unfortunately that proposal was never taken up. But I do think that they do know more than us within the intelligence circles and you know what I'd like to do is, you know, in terms of having answers, I admit I don't have answers. I have guesses. You know, I'm thinking about your previous witnesses that you've had on and I'm thinking about Matthew Livelsberger, the green beret who blew himself up within a side cyber truck outside the Trump hotel in January this year, claiming that, you know, you know, we've heard it from our sources that there is an arms race in terms of exploiting UAP technology. The question is, if there is an arms race between Russia, China, the USA, how far have they made, how much progress they made in terms of exploiting that and who's ahead when it comes to kind of exploiting it to its full potential. And we've had Matthew Livelsberger basically claim that these things that were spotted over the US in December, we had the New Jersey instance as well remember, that they were advanced Chinese anti-gravitic tech with which could carry out an unlimited payload and it was basically a checkmate situation. So, I mean, I don't know, but it's certainly interesting just looking at the cases from 2019 that you covered and the case over Langley Air Force Base, the case over Lake and Heath and these latest cases in terms of why can't we take them down, where they are originating from, why are these things so spooky, you know, what is it that they're hiding, why can't they just simply shoot them down. So, we have a lot of unanswered questions, but I do think that there is one organization within the CIA, which may have a very good idea and I do know that they do deal with the UAP phenomena as well, and they liaise with the arrow and they liaise the UAPTF from my understanding as well. And that is the WCPMC, which is the CIA's Weapons and Counter-Peroforation Mission Center. Yeah, it's a real mouthful, that is. And within that, it's got Air Warfare Analysis Branch and Air Defence Analysis Branch. So, they basically, they get information, they can get information from NASIC, they can get information from no such agency, the NSA, they can get information from, they can get it from the NRO. So, they get a variety of projects, DIA as well, and they'll use the intelligence community and they'll use the human intelligence and all their other information, they've got feeding into them, and they'll make an analysis about the origin of where these things may come from, whether it be drones or whether it be UAP. I feel like this is the main kind of place that we should be looking at in terms of asking the question, in terms of not only the events happening over Denmark and other places around the world, but also over the US as well, because if it is determined or if it is thought that these things originate from a foreign actor, this CIA would get involved working with another agency if it's on US territory. So, I think that's who we should be looking at for answers, because it would be their job to kind of make the analysis and then determine where they're actually coming from. We know that they've got satellites looking at the globe basically, they can see this stuff, and they should be able to pinpoint a launch and point where these things are actually going from as well. And I think that one of the cool things that is happening at the moment is that China, Russia, the USA, there is hot warfare from my understanding, but just in places where we can't see, like in space, where they're knocking satellites out. And I think that there is kind of like a secret kind of like war going on, it's hybrid warfare, and I feel this is part of it. And like with Havana syndrome, the US doesn't want to admit that it might be Russian, it might be Chinese. I mean, that's my best guess in terms of who's actually dealing with this issue and where the origin might be, because they seem to be obsessed with places that Russia or China may be interested in. So, those are my thoughts on it anyhow. You see the, you know, you were mentioning the ones that started toward the end of September. In early September, there were other incursions that were assumed to be Russians. The Poland, they were testing the defenses in Poland, and then Latvia at Estonia, and you can see why you'd assume it's Russians doing that stuff. And so the assumption is made all these other European countries that have drones flying over must be Russians. And yet, you know, we see the Russians are stretched pretty thin. They're using drones in Ukraine, and they can't seem to buy them and make them fast enough. They're getting them from all over the world, and those drones don't seem to be doing what these drones are doing. We're shooting them down. The Ukrainians are shooting them down. These, you know, we see the Germans have now, and the Danes have referred to them as surveillance technology, assuming that it's some other country that's flying them. But again, and the Germans have said, we're going to start shooting them down. They haven't shot any down, right? It reminds us of what happened in the UK, the stories that you covered, where they did whip out the most advanced anti-drone technology we have and had no effect, correct? Yeah, yeah, that's very, very accurate. They had two Cobra meetings as well, which is kind of like the emergency meetings that they have at. Ten Downing Street involved in the Prime Minister. This was taking really, really seriously because they were very, very, they seemed helpless. These things had a payload of these things turned out to be, you know, lethal, and they had, you know, they wanted to cause damage. They could have. They could have. And, you know, we've been covering what's been, we've been looking about what's been going on in the war. And I believe another one of the fears is that these things may have a payload. If you return to Sender, they may have been pre-coordinated to actually go to the airfield, land on somewhere that's critical and then explode. I never thought about that. I'm sorry. Civilian airports. I mean, what would, if there are surveillance platforms, what would be the point of Russia, which is stretched pretty thin, sending precious drones to fly over Danish or German civilian airports to do surveillance? And they're not exactly hiding it. I mean, they're flying at night with lights on. It seems more of a provocation than surveillance. I want to know what's, I say, I know my mind takes me to Havana syndrome again, because you think if the Russians are doing this to intelligence staff, that's a provocation. That can cause a war. And I think there was some speculation is that if the CIA or the intelligence community admitted it was Russian, it would then take us that much closer to war. And that's one of the reasons given, one of the other reasons given was that perhaps the U.S. and U.K. maybe are doing the same thing to Russia as well. And once you kind of admit the Russians are doing it, then you have to admit you've got this technology and you know what's going on and you're using it yourself. The thing it makes me think about as well is I'm thinking about immaculate consolation and the documentation you were given. We saw that on two occasions, I believe, Russian intelligence ships were seen kind of like one day viewing with triangular craft. I think these little points to the fact that Russia, with speculation that Russia does know a lot when it comes to advanced tech, either it possesses such tech, or it is in some kind of communication with another kind of like form of intelligence perhaps. You think we could take them down if we wanted to take them down? Senator Gillibrand inserted something in the National Defense Bill saying that military bases can now take them down if they fly over them. Can we take them down if we wanted to? If we're talking about what Matthew Livelsberger is speculating that these things may be like anti-gravity or something like that, then that suggests that they've got a power source which generates a lot of power. If you were to shoot something like that down from the sky, what would be the impact? We know that the US was toying with potentially having nuclear-generated nuclear-powered bombers after World War II, but it was deemed as too dangerous. You could have nuclear-generated or nuclear-powered submarines, aircraft carriers, but you can't do that with aircraft. I believe the Russians have a nuclear-fuelled rocket with unlimited range, but why don't they have those for aircraft as well? Maybe they are using some kind of nuclear device and if you did take them down it would cause a very, very nasty incident which could endanger a lot of lives. This is the thing about why don't we know, because you have to figure out why are these things flying with lights on. If they were Russian and they were caught in the act and they were shot down and we were able to go back and ascertain they were Russian, again it would cause a big international incident, it would cause embarrassment for Russia. We have caught you look similar to what happened with the Chinese, it was a major embarrassment for the Chinese and it could happen with Russia as well, but with the current tensions it could potentially force the US and NATO into a war. But again George, you've got a question, why are they not utilising this technology in Ukraine at the moment where they could really do with it and at the moment they are getting drones from China, getting drones from Iran and all sorts of countries, anywhere they can. These are the difficult questions, but I know that in the US as well you've got the shadowy world of the classified, where they've got probably very, very advanced weaponry and then you've got what you see in the unclassified world. The most advanced tech the US has is the stealth jets. So you've kind of got to think about how those worlds are managed on the public stage when it comes to conflict. If Russia did have some really advanced technology and it started using it over Ukraine and the world was to report on such technology being utilised, then obviously it puts the US in a really bad situation with nothing to do with it. And if Russia is going to counter that technology, well, wow, Russia is ahead of the US when it comes to technology now. Russia has a triangular craft that can hover on its own and generate its own power. It's like, this is crazy. How would the US react to that if that did come out? Well, the US, if it did have such technology, would have to show its own hand and say, well, actually we do have this technology. And again, that might have its own impact. So we have to go down all these paths. And I know it's horrible not knowing the answers. I really don't like a lot of the the Air Consortium intelligence accounts that think they do know the answers about where these things are coming from and they do know what they are. Like, I'm happy to admit this is always all speculation on my part. I really don't have any good evidence to show where they're coming from, but we can have a look at the patterns, can't we, of behaviour when it comes to these things. And it all seems to have a lot in common. You know, they're very, very brazen in their behaviour. They show their lights. They're not able to be taken down, can't be tracked. We don't know how they're controlled. It's very, very bizarre. It's a big payday coming for defense contractors. Chris, like you and Jeremy, I subscribed all these defense newsletters about contracts and defense contractors and what they're up to. And every single day there's a new article about a big fat contract being given to somebody to develop a new system of anti-drone tech. There was something that was on Twitter a couple of days ago and it's a giant cannon. It looks like a cannon that would be on the Death Star. Boom, boom, boom, shooting at the rebel craft and is supposedly capable of knocking down a dozen drones at a shot. I can't wait till that gets out there and let's see what it can do. You know, but it's a big payday for big fat defense contractors as everything is. I don't know what the implications would be like what you said, Chris, if these are nuclear powered units that are out there, let's just say from like a normal, you know, terrestrial, you know, country. And we have these nuclear powered drones. Like what is the implication of shooting them down? So all of a sudden you have like some nuclear reactor that's hit the ground. Do you think that's part of the problem with why things can't just be shot at out the sky? Potentially, potentially, yeah. This is the whole problem when it comes to this. All these activities are clandestine. The US may be doing it within Russia and China. And then likewise, we may be doing it to them. And the trouble is with Russian media and Chinese media, you know, we're dealing with authoritarian states. We may not perhaps hear about stories about incursions over their military bases as we do our military bases. So I do think that is potentially one of the problems in terms of the nuclear reactors and nuclear material kind of causing a major incident. And you know, I go back to the Immaculate Contellation document that was presented by Matthew Brown again. These things do seem to be rendezvousing with Russian, I think a Chinese ship perhaps as well, within the Atlantic and Pacific. And I have no reason to believe that's not true. But again, you have to think, you know, at the very least Russia and China realize that this technology does exist. And I'd be very, very surprised if the technology hasn't been exploited in some way or another. Again, we're dealing with the classified world here, you know. We're having an unclassified conversation when it comes to this whole topic of these drones. But there's also classified conversations happening in skiffs as well with people who read into, you know, saps and caps. And that's the really, and we know how serious they treat the security when it comes to even having a conversation when it comes to classified materials. And that's the thing that I really, really dislike most about this whole thing because I'm pretty sure that they know a lot more about the nature of these drones than we do within the intelligence world. I'll just say this, Jeremy, I don't know what the weaponized budget is like. I don't, you know, I've had more than enough travel to last me the rest of my life. But if we need to go to Copenhagen, I'm willing to go and spend some time on the ground there. And Sweden and Norway as well. I mean, I'll make that sacrifice. Be awesome, man. You know, I'm bouncing Denmark, by the way. I just want to mention it. I went to Copenhagen like two years ago. You're both celebrities there, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they're paying mural of you both. I was there. I was there some years ago at an invitation and just loved it. Just absolutely loved it. You got to watch out for the bicycle mafia when you're walking down the street there in Copenhagen, but everything else was fabulous. So, you know, willing to go. You know, a lot of people have been asking me lately, like there's some journalists looking into the UFO topic and even some agency people, you know, just asking, do I believe that we have reverse engineered any of this technology? I just curious, George, after all this time you've looked at this, I know we all hope that we have. And I know a lot of the stories that you've broken. The indications are that we have reverse engineered some of this technology. But what if you bottom line at George, do you think we have any operational craft that display this kind of technology? I really don't know. I mean, I don't think it requires non human intelligence to build the kind of drone things. UAS, UAV systems that we're seeing. We just don't know how they work right now out here in the unclassified world. I don't think that requires alien tech to build something like that. But maybe, you know, maybe it is. I mean, I, you know, what we've all heard from our sources is that we haven't made much progress in reverse engineering this stuff with the one exception of the Russians who had had some success with a beam weapon. I don't think it's operational. At least it wasn't the last time I'd heard, but they did do some testing on something that they got from a crash site. I have no indication that we've we've got a sport model that we have built and are operating out there. Then again, we just heard an amazing story in the previous episode of weaponized with something that Eglin years ago, that if it's not ours, we're certainly in league with it. It was sitting there and with all of our personnel, US personnel around it seemed to be some kind of a cooperation you ought on there. So, you know, I don't know. George and Jeremy, would we be correct in terms of reverse engineering in roles that each agency might have that would be the DOE or Patel that would be in charge of propulsion systems and power sources. So if something like that did something like that, if that had been reverse engineered, it wouldn't necessarily come from the DOD. That would make sense. Sure. Particular aspects of the technology that you just described, it would make sense to be a DOE and also from a practical standpoint, it's a lot harder to get information out of DOE or extra layers of secrecy, even compared to DOD or DOW now. Yeah, all these people that have come to us, it's not like one person, it's not like two people, it's not like within the last, you know, couple months. This is for George, like 40 years, you know, people have been coming to a journalist and saying, we have craft of unknown origin, technology of unknown origin. And we are trying to reverse engineer that technology. Maybe it started for George with Lazare, but you had Dr. Lachatsky come on our show and say that we breached a whole of a technology of unknown origin, no wings, no rotors, no tail, no fuel, no, no, no even fuel that they could see. I don't know how you'd reverse engineer that, but it's not like one person that's come forward. There are people that said these are from archaeological digs, at least some of the power sources, if not the full craft. You know, we'd have to dismiss everybody that's come, you know, to me and George, George for 40 years to say, look, there's nothing to see here move on. I buy it. I buy it that there is a technology far more advanced that we didn't make and that we've been trying. I buy it. I can't prove it today. I definitively prove it today. It's not really my job, maybe, but I can't dismiss all the people that have come forward to us in different capacity to give us this base narrative, this base understanding. And I don't think they were tricked. I don't think that this is some big sigh up and everybody's in on it except for me and George and you. I don't buy that. So I don't know what the truth is, but it's got to be somewhere in the middle there. You know, Dr. Likatsky is pretty well connected. He's been at this a long time. He's pretty deep on the inside. He shared like two sentences that he was cleared to say that we've reached the hull. We've been inside that doesn't exactly instill a lot of confidence that we figured out how it works that we, ooh, we've funding managed to get inside. Doesn't sound like we're flying it around and go to 711 to pick up a six pack, you know, so we'll have to get him back here, Jeremy, pretty soon. I would love that. I would love that he just wrote a new book. You know, it's a guy we squeeze and maybe we'll get more good information. I don't know. I don't know. It'd be great to have one again. Yeah. Chris, thanks very much for your time. Anything else to add to this? I mean, you do still leave room in your conspiratorial scenario for good old fashioned non-human intelligence stuff floating around out there, not just advanced craft that the Russians, Chinese and you and Americans don't want to tell the public about. Yeah, yeah. Well, Murray Murray from running camp and I talk quite frequently about this and he'll point to similar kind of incursions over US Air Force bases going decades back. I think 1960s, 1970s before you had this kind of drone technology that we do have now. So I think that's definitely worth noting and I am aware of instance over New Jersey where it doesn't seem to me like we are dealing with drones at all as well. So I mean, we can't always treat it as a black and white situation. Reality is much more nuanced with many layers. And I'd also point out as well that I just find it very, very bizarre with To The Stars Academy. The whole big thing when they first came out was about actually producing a kind of anti-gravity craft of their own. That was the prime aspect about what they were all about. And you had Steve Justice, you had Chris Mellon and many, many others you signed up to that and put their name behind TTSA. I've been trying to get in touch with TTSA to ask them about that. I've got no comment at all from them. So I just think that's very interesting. If the technology didn't exist, why would someone like Steve Justice and all the others involved to To The Stars Academy put their names behind that project? If the technology didn't exist. And if the technology did exist, why would you do so via Tom DeLonge and To The Stars Academy instead of classifying that text right away and creating a Lockheed Martin buried under deep secrecy? I don't understand that either. Good point. Hi Chris Sharp. Thanks very much. Please keep us in the loop. You're on the cutting edge of that story there as always. Doing great work. Thank you. You know, it does get complicated, Jeremy, with the big geopolitical picture, Russians, Chinese, U.S. And it makes sense what Chris was saying about we may be doing the same thing to them and nobody wants to admit it because it would lead to perhaps dire consequences. But you know, you and I harken back to what had happened a year ago and some of the things that were underway and it's scary. Some of the incidents and reports that came our way, correct? Yeah, so two things Chris said that were interesting. One is what if they changed the return to sender to be back at the base, which is something that you do if someone's got a bomb on it, you do return to sender and it's supposed to go back. It's a very famous kind of a hack you can do. But that's a good point. What if you do return to sender and they just change the metadata to make it look like it was the point of origin they wanted to bomb. So there's some real issues and you and I talked about this way before the drone thing was even like a word. We said every UFO is going to be called a drone and all the drones are going to be called UFOs for a while and it's going to confuse everything. And we're seeing that now. We're absolutely seeing that now. But you and I would get reports that were substantial, that were substantiated and were important. They were so bizarre. So during that New Jersey drone stuff, there was a critical infrastructure facility, also an energy facility in that area. And we got word from reliable sources that there was footage of a pyramid shaped object lifting up out of the bay and hovering and loitering over this critical infrastructure. And indeed that there was an incursion and something was hovering over it and we were told there was footage of it. So you and I asked the sources were like, do you want to report this up because it's not working for you right now reporting it up. There are people in the FBI that want to know and they're like, absolutely. I don't want to break any rules they said but there's footage of it. It's sitting on this Honeywell server. And we I do want this is important. This is a defense. And we told the FBI, we told them we connected them to exactly where it would be. And then before they could go look for that Honeywell footage for the first time in history that this individual knew about it. That footage was gone. It was deleted off of the server. So you and I kind of learned real quick about those servers and how it works. But that is that is real. We reported that to the FBI because we were told that the individuals that were giving us that information wanted it reported it was a pyramid shaped object lifted out of the water. I mean close camera proximity by the way, not like a blurry image. And, and it was deleted. So we don't know who deleted it. We put it in the hands of an investigatory body that we were hoping would get to the bottom of course they're not going to tell us if they get to the bottom of it. But we were informed that the footage was deleted before arrival and not by the individual that informed us. So there's so many questions man about this stuff, you know, UAP UFO, you know, drones, it gets confusing, even for me, I have fatigue with this shit, but it gets confusing. You say pyramid though, not a not a triangle pyramid. Yeah, well, triangular by angle of observation pyramidal in shape. Yeah, all right, well a lot to chew on here. We've got some pretty cool stuff coming in the near future. We're weaponized so get some sleep and we'll see you soon. Okay, thanks George. You