Frantic New Search For Nancy Guthrie

Hello, everyone. I'm Kayleigh McEnany, along with Kennedy, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. We bring you this Fox News alert, some stunning new twists on day 11 of the search for Nancy Guthrie. Investigators racing against the clock and they returned to both Nancy and Annie Guthrie's homes this afternoon. Two officials were seen leaving Annie's house with a bag in their hand and they checked the mailbox as well. Now, every second counts as they try to track down this person you are seeing on the screen caught on camera on Nancy Guthrie's porch the night she went missing. Last night, a person was detained for questioning but has been released. However, Her FBI Director Cash Patel says the bureau is looking at multiple persons, plural, of interest. I do believe we are looking at people who, as we say, are persons of interest. But as you know, with any investigation, you are a person of interest until you're either eliminated or you're actually found to be the culprit or the culprits involved. And that's the stage we're at right now. Let's go to Alicia Acuna, who is on the ground in Tucson. Alicia. Hi, Kaylee. The New York Post is now reporting that the FBI has found a black glove about a mile and a half from Nancy Guthrie's home, and it was found in the shrubbery. There was a search today, and I'll get into that in just a moment. But for right now, I want to discuss a little of the activity that our cameras caught at Annie Guthrie's home. They were here for just a short period of time. There were a couple of hours ago, an unmarked SUV pulled up. Two men walked inside. They were there for maybe 15 minutes. They appeared to be agents of some sort, but it's also possible they are part of the Guthrie private security. Our producer shouted questions, didn't get any answers. But one of the men carried out a couple of bags from the home and the other was wearing latex gloves. We've reached out to the FBI for confirmation on whether this was part of the investigation or something else. Earlier today at Nancy Guthrie's home, this man drove up to the property and left some sort of signage with a sheriff's deputy. Interestingly, he told a local TV station he was a private investigator for the family. This is the first time we've heard of the Guthrie's hiring a private investigator. Also today, we have video of FBI agents who are out today in the area just to the north and surrounding streets of Nancy's house. The Bureau confirming in a statement this morning, numerous FBI agents were conducting an extensive search along multiple roadways in the Catalina Foothills area related to the Nancy Guthrie investigation. Last night, law enforcement briefly detained a man in Rio Rico, Arizona, south of Tucson. Matt Finn reports the FBI tells Fox News Carlos Palazuelos was not pinpointed solely off of that footage of a person on Nancy Guthrie's nest cam. Kaylee Palosuelos tells Fox News that the FBI took his phone, may still have it. So we will await updates on that as well. Kaylee. Alicia, thank you. Let's bring in former NYPD inspector and current Fox News contributor Paul Morrow in Tucson. Paul, I'm looking at this new York Post reporting. Apparently, there's images, according to the New York Post, of these investigators pulling the glove, the black glove, which resembled that in the video, from the shrubbery. Curious, is this connected to that Catalina Foothills search? And second, can they get DNA off this glove? Well, if it is, in fact, one of the gloves that the perpetrator wore at the scenes, then, of course, this would be a very, very big break because of the possible DNA analysis that we've talked about. Kaylee, you and I have talked about it many times. It's the question I asked at the press conference, which was, will you use the IgG DNA? That is the DNA that is familial. And so you have a much, much greater shot of getting to somebody who is linked to your suspect as opposed to a one to one hit, which is a very, very remote possibility. That said, that said, the idea that they've only found one glove, it's pretty far from the scene. And the fact that somebody who was very clearly extremely cautious, he was robed up foot to head to make sure. In fact, I think he had two hoods on just to make sure he didn't leave any DNA. He throws one glove out the window as he leaves the scene. It's a little bit much to believe at this point, but perhaps do crazy things that are inexplicable. And this would be a big, big break. And I'm sure it is related to that search. Paul, thank you. One last question, and then we're going to broaden it out in the table here. There was some new reporting from Matt Finn that the look of the individual alone in the camera is not what led to the detainment of Carlos. I would have suspected that because they would have had to have a search warrant. Any indication as to what the other information was? Not really. I'd heard that there is, you know, potentially some digital stuff. This is what I'm reading into that. He's a delivery driver. And they asked him, in fact, Matt Finn asked him directly, have you delivered to the house in question? And he said something like I very well might have. So I had a guess and I'm guessing I would think that they did some sort of a digital search relative to either people who have delivered to that place or people who have maybe put it into a mapping service, one of the mapping apps to see if they can find their way to it. And they might have got a hit on him. And so the confluence of those factors got them enough to get over the hump for the federal search warrant. But remember something else, too. You know, in a ransom situation, a kidnapping, there's probable cause and then there's probable cause. And I would argue that in a pressured situation like this where a woman's life is on the line, that bar comes down a bit. So we do have to bear that in mind. But it sounds like there was more than one factor. A couple of things likely came together. But as of now, he's not under arrest. Dana, I mean, I'm looking at this picture of the glove at The New York Post and we hope it's the perpetrator's glove. but we've seen what we thought was a detainment that led to nothing. And it's also 11 days later. So, I mean, well, if that's the case and they just found it, that would be kind of strange. But they haven't had bad weather either. So that might be the case. I would also ask this, Paul, can you help us make sense of these ransom notes that are going to TMZ? On a newsroom this morning, Harvey Levin said an hour and a half ago, we just got another one. But it was somebody who said that they know who the kidnappers are, but they're also asking for Bitcoin. And maybe that all rings true to some. For me, I find it just a little bit hard to believe. I wonder if you have a better sense of that. No, I'm with you. You know, the audience for this case is unfortunately global. And so you talk about millions of people who are following this. And all you need is a few knuckleheads who want to pile on. the even first two that had the Bitcoin wallet, the first two emails had the patina of a ransomware case to me. It's very similar to how the ransomware gangs operate from behind Russia and they're impossible to get to. And the fact that they were just so completely unwilling to provide any signs of life, any images, something from inside the house that they saw, because the stuff that they did provide was very, very thin and potentially gleanable, I would argue, from media reports. So I lean against all of these letters until I'm shown otherwise. I don't know why they put the money into the account, maybe to just see if it works, maybe to see if it provided an alert to him. And so somehow or other, they could see a packet move to him that said, hey, there's money in the account, some deep dive thing that they did in the cyber world. I don't see how 300 bucks would entice him to come forward and smoke him out. And there's also the possibility that it is bad guys, as I said, who are normally stealing identities and stuff. And they just went back to business as usual. And the 300 bucks that's in the account is them selling identities because their attempt at this ripoff didn't work. Jesse. Paul, again, we're seeing investigators back at the sister's house and we're seeing images of them taking things from the house. At this point, after a week and a half, what items could they possibly be taking away from Annie's house? Yeah, it's a good question because they've been all over the place there. I actually lean towards it being investigators that have been hired by private security, that is, that have been hired by the Guthrie family. Here's why. The information we've had on the scene here, they haven't been in that house in a good while now. And my information is that they are outside the city someplace, but not that far off. They don't want to show themselves. They don't want to come into town. They know all the media is out here. And so my read is that those are people who are just they send people in to get supplies for them and the clothes and stuff. And they are being very cautious in wearing gloves and using plastic bags because they just want to make sure that there's no argument later that they in any way tainted something. that could presumably become part of the case. Now, again, that's an assumption. You know, I'm not sure about that. If that is still an evidence search team, strikes me that it was fairly casual. You send two people back, they go in, they're in there for not all that long, and then they come out with a couple of plastic bags. That's not really how you're gathering evidence. You know, there are forms, there are envelopes that it goes in that you seal it, it stays in there. You don't walk out casually swinging a plastic bag. So, you know, I lean against it at this point, still being evidence collection. But anything's possible in this case. It's been very, very surprising. Greg So Paul I want to revisit my strategy to solving this case And that would be having the least likely suspect Savannah Guthrie offer to do a polygraph which will then put necessary pressure on others inside and outside the circle to do the same Since no one has been ruled out, it's one step forward in ruling in. And anybody who says no or bristles looks unusual. What do you say to that? Well, my understanding as of now is that they haven't done anything relative to a polygraph. I'm not sure we would have necessarily have heard, but I think we would the way things have been going out here. And as we all know, it's not admissible in court, but it can be a pointer. I said, look, I am surprised a little bit that we haven't heard to that kind of thinking more in terms of a reward to put pressure on somebody who is potentially around the perpetrators to come forward. And I understand what you're saying. If one of the primary victims here says, OK, I'll volunteer to do this. You know, let's see what happens with others. I get that you're trying to smoke people out that might be close to the situation. But I think a good way to smoke out people that are close to the situation is to offer a life changing reward. I understand we don't want to incentivize people to kidnap in the future. Of course, I get that. But at this point, with an 84-year-old woman missing for a week and a half, I think you're at the point where you've got to do something that's fairly extreme. So as far as Savannah doing that, obviously that's going to be her personal call. I don't know if they've discussed it. It may argue that inside the family, they are perfectly happy with the way things have gone in terms of the investigation. Obviously, they haven't gotten their mother. But I'm going to the idea that the family has been cooperative and inside the family, they must feel that everybody is being forthright. And that's not where the investigation should go. Paul, we heard a lot yesterday the phrase tickling the wire, which is a phrase that I am unfamiliar with, but apparently is very common in law enforcement lexicon. So we have this big break in terms of the picture, the images, the video that we saw yesterday. Did that tickle the wire? Was there a bombardment to the two phone numbers we have up on the screen constantly? And how do they sift through the information to actually find those persons of interest? Yeah, so generally tickling the wire is used in the wiretap context. You know, you have a wiretap that isn't really producing a whole heck of a lot. And you have an investigation ongoing and you do something outside the wiretap to get the bad guys talking about what happened on the wire so that you can hear their reaction and you move the whole thing forward. And that usually do that with an undercover or an informant who is under your control. In this case, it's a slightly different context tickling the wire here. I think the closest thing to that sort of analogy is what they did with the Bitcoin, assuming that that was, in fact, the FBI to put the 300 bucks in. And like I said, I think they were probably hoping to tickle the Bitcoin wire, so to speak, to get him either reaching in for the, you know, paltry amount of money or maybe, as I said, seeing an alert go out or seeing him log in to check if it's there or something like that. Give them a data point to work with. And the other thing, of course, that could tickle the entire wire of the investigation writ large was the release of those videos. and they had to do that. And understand, that's not an easy decision to make. We've seen it in a number of cases recently, like Tyler Robinson. They didn't want to necessarily put out that video and alert him that, hey, we have images of you who did this to Charlie Kirk, but they made the mature decision to say, yeah, people are going to say we couldn't solve it. The public solved it. Who cares? You put it out if it's going to end this thing. They made that decision in the Charlie Kirk case. They did the right thing here. They had good imagery. They put it out. Hopefully they can get more. There's an argument that what they did here, they're going to be able to continue to go forward with, do more of decoding of those code packets that ultimately produce video that they were able to recover from the cache and the Wi-Fi. And maybe you're going to get more from that camera. Maybe you could get audio. Nest cameras have audio. You could hear his voice. There's other cameras there. Maybe some of those other cameras are going to produce. We know at least one other camera alerted at some point after that camera. I'm sure they're scraping hard at that. This stuff's not easy. Google did it in 10 days. I'm sure they put their best foot forward, went at the thing that they thought was going to be most productive. But now I'm sure they're trying to get at other stuff. And so, yeah, and it may tickle the wire of somebody coming forward and saying, I see enough of that guy's walk, which is always very distinctive. That's what I'd be interested in. If we could get, even if he's all masked up, if we get three seconds of him really walking clearly, I think that there's a very good chance you're going to get somebody to say, I absolutely know who that is. Let's hope we get that. Paul, thank you. Well, coming up next, President Trump defies the experts with some blockbuster jobs numbers that even the liberal media could not deny. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series, It's the life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's a big star at Banana Joe's bar where she sang karaoke every night. So the Democrats who are feeling good about their midterm chances cannot deny that President Trump got some strong jobs numbers today. The U.S. economy adding 130,000 jobs in January. That doubled expectations. And unemployment coming in at 4.3 percent. That also beat expectations. And even some folks in the media admitted it was good news. This is being seen as good news even on Wall Street. This is a hot jobs report. I mean, there's really nothing in this not to like. Polls do suggest that Americans have their questions about deportations and even the work of Doge. but certainly the jobs report higher than expected. That is undeniable. Nobody's going to rain on my parade, and these numbers are what they are. All these naysayers steeped in politics continue to be negative. That's OK, because 50K says you've all been wrong. President Trump telling Larry Kudlow he's confident of Republican success in the midterms, but of course, it's all about how you sell it. If we can get the word out, we should win. The problem is that historically, two times the president's won in 50 years, two times. I don't know what that is. We have the hottest country in the world. I guess I have to sell that because we should win in a landslide and we'll do everything we can to do it. So it's not just good jobs numbers. Crime's also down. But will President Trump get credit for that? Axios posted and then deleted this tweet. Crime plunges in major cities despite Trump's crackdown rhetoric. OK, let's do maybe jobs first. Jesse, better. 130,000 up is better than that. Yeah, that was a strong number. And then I'm looking at the 33,000 construction jobs. That's a construction boom. And the construction jobs always precede a manufacturing boom because you have to build the factories and build the plants and then you can get things going again. Rent, rates, inflation, gas, all down. He has now slashed the federal workforce to levels not seen since 1966. slash crime to levels not seen since 1900. And now I think all time illegal alien crossings at a record low. So incomes are up and the stock market's at an all time high. If he was a Democrat, the media would cover this guy as like this economic miracle. But the country is a little traumatized from Bidenomics. So he has to be sensitive about the fact that the golden age. It's not going to happen overnight. But if he just keeps hammering this thing and hammering this thing, we will get to the promised land soon enough. All right, Greg, what do you think? Yeah, I just listened to Jesse and I have to say it's kind of amazing the numbers that you talk about with crime and 50,000 stock market. It's amazing. The numbers don't lie, but people do. Like an inch is always an inch until you ask a guy how tall he is. Or, you know, pound is a pound until you ask a lady or wait, which you shouldn't. Never do that. So the Axios thing is a great example. You know, they admit that the crime is dropping, but then they add that word despite. So they note the numbers. They change the story with the hope that that becomes the narrative for the rest of the discredited media. But they got this is the great thing about social media. We always say social media is bad, but that didn't last. Now, in the old days, before X was sold, that thing would have been it would have been the bat signal, the the conformity trigger. Like, OK, this is the story you're going to run with. It'll help you explain explain the number. The Times would do it. The Washington Post, everybody. Republicans, however, they can report real numbers when the Democrats were in power. So they didn't have to do this. You looked at the millions that were streaming in undocumented across the border. You saw the murder rates. You saw the amount of overdoses. You didn't have to fudge it at all. So the Dems, what did they do then? They just avoided those numbers. The media avoided those numbers. They wanted plausible deniability. It's like, hey, as long as we're in the dark, you know, we can't say we knew and did these policies anyway. Also, if they actually admitted to these numbers, they'd have to abandon their policies or they'd be just psychotic and throw themselves off a bridge. But it's still a challenge for Trump. That's the thing. He said, I guess I got to sell it. Yeah, that's the point. You got to sell it because we just explained to you that they not going to buy it The media is going to do everything they can Those are amazing numbers Amazing And they going to make them look bad So you have to persuade and to reason at the same time but not to the media, to the people. And we're probably the only, like, network and the only show that is, like, saying directly what's going on. And if you look at, I mean, other places, they'll just be like, oh, I had no idea. Also, I think, Kennedy, they have to continue to step on the gas, so to speak. So the deregulations that have been helpful so far, like keep going. Wait, you see my one more thing today. I'm going to add one for you. I hope we don't have time. Tax season is coming and they're expecting everybody to have some sort of a cut or at least have the larger, larger return than they've had in many years. Yes. And refunds, things like that definitely help people. And that's also what helps independent voters put all of the ICE raids and the bad publicity that this administration has had from ICE behind them. Because if the midterms were held today, this administration is facing a cultural headwind. They do have to be careful in not overselling it, because if you're telling people the economy is wonderful and they've lost their job or they can't afford to buy a house for the first time, the economy is not great for them. What they can do is move government out of the way as much as possible to allow the free market to naturally flourish. Because, you know, rates for homebuyers who bought 10 years ago, they're at 3 percent. They are still not selling. I mean, that's one of the things that that leads to a housing crunch for home buyers in this country. But if people feel it in their taxes, if people see it at the gas pump and they also feel it in prices, then their economy has improved. Then those messages tend to resonate more. So if you've got crime that's coming down and an economy that's improving, I would be very interested to see what Democrat messaging is, because it's really, really tough to run against that. Kaylee, I noticed, I mean, obviously, feel free to talk about anything you wanted, but I noticed that in Orlando and Tampa, places that you know pretty well, they had a 50 percent decline in homicides. And they weren't they weren't the only city. But that was notable to me. Fifty percent is quite a bit. Yes, because those are jurisdictions that partner with the Trump administration rather than trying to stand in opposition. Governor Ron DeSantis has been a great partner to President Trump. You know, one of the things that's not covered often, which I've got to say I'm thrilled about his mom. and I can't believe it's not covered, is that this is the lowest rate of school shootings in four years. You can see the headline on Education Weekly, fewest incidents and deaths in four years. I asked Cash Patel about that, and he's literally detailed for me stories where in New York City, there was a report someone put out on social media that they were going to shoot up a school. Within two hours, the FBI was there, found a gun in the young man's backpack, and averted what could have been a crisis at a New York City school. Those stories don't get enough attention. They should, because I think I speak for every mother in America when I say thank you for making a difference there. But one thing I would note today, and we talked about this earlier in the week, Dana, when you're putting out 20 messages from the White House, a lot gets lost. But today's a great example. There was a lot going on at the White House, but you didn't see most of it. Prime Minister Netanyahu, that meeting was behind closed doors. So what got attention? The president's coal message. So I think it's instructive going forward. Put the president out there strategically on something that matters, the economy, school shootings, whatever the message is, and drive it home to November. But he's also got to get the Republican voters to pretend this is a presidential election. Because it is. It is. He's going to lose. Midterm convention. Yes. I'm for that. All right, coming up, the socialist takeover of the Democratic Party just got some new recruits. I'm waiting for you to be free and just lay your pretty head on my cell phone. I'll lay down your dam on my leg. Makeup is alive. Oh, makeup. Makeup is alive. Oh, makeup is alive. The Dems are welcoming some new comrades in New Jersey. And AOC and Bernie Back Progressive is now just one step away from Congress. After her moderate opponent conceded. And over in California, a socialist member of the L.A. City Council, whose party platform includes a plan to turn golf courses into public housing, is now launching a bid for mayor against her former ally, Karen Bates. Los Angeles is at a breaking point, and people can feel it in the most basic ways. It does not have to be this way. Los Angeles needs a mayor who will take responsibility for the whole system, who will demand accountability from departments, who will prepare for emergencies before they happen, who will communicate honestly when things go wrong and who will fix what fails. Oh, yeah, Dana, you know, the Democrat Socialists of America have 100,000 members. So not all Democrats are socialists, but all socialists are Democrats. Wow, that's like algebra. Yes. I get it. And you're right. They're also this, super organized. That's all they do, Dana. They organize. Last fall, I was saying, look, these guys are on the march. It's not just New York City. There were the candidate in Seattle, for example, the one that just won in New Jersey, the congressional district. Bernie Sanders went for that special district down there or the special election in a rally. This is not even a midterm. Fifteen hundred people show up for him. And in a race where you have not as high a turnout because it's not a presidential year, they can win. And they have when they organize, you get together and you have practice speeches. See how she's spoken to the cameras? They're very good. They know exactly what they're doing. They have a huge amount of energy. They have a community. They have continuity. I think that everyone should be very careful. Now, some people will say the Republicans have a great strategy because they are going to try to get a lot of these socialists to win the primaries in the battleground states so that they will be more easily beatable in the general election. That could work very well, maybe. I also think it's playing with fire. Yeah, and it hasn't worked out in some cases. I can't cite any because I'm lazy. Jessie. Yeah. Ah, this socialist challenging bass for mayor in L.A. She wants to turn golf courses into public housing. Why can't it be both? You could just live at the golf course. Yes. I think a lot of husbands would like that. Yes. I think you're onto something. Yeah, Nithya Ramen. She owns a multimillion-dollar home. She does, yeah. She's a limousine liberal. Ramen like the noodle. We had a run in with her when I was at seven. There is a homeless guy who camped out in front of this guy's bar in her district and he tried to kick him out. So what did the homeless guy do? He slung feces at the guy's bar. And you know what this ramen noodle lady did? Defended the Doug Flutie a duty. And so these are the kind of dangerous radicals that we need to keep tabs on, because I'm trying to think of the equivalent of like a right winger to this lady. Like, you can have right-wingers, like what are they, don't believe in evolution? That doesn't hurt anybody. It would be like having a bona fide Nazi, right? Well, they hurt people. No, but no, are you talking about... No, I'm just trying to, like, the equivalent of, like, the extreme right to this extreme leftist. I just, you're going with Nazi on that one, Greg? Well, a Nazi is a... I don't really see them as on their side. But anyway, that's cool that you do. What? condemn Nazis. Greg, condemn Nazis. I did. You know what I was saying? Far extreme. You were trying to come up with a far extreme. Yeah, I don't know. But I just I think that that fired. Yeah, they are socialists. Kennedy, I got to ask you, because this woman is running against your favorite mayor, Karen Bass. What do you what are your thoughts? Resign, Karen Bass. Resign. I've been saying that since January 8th of last year. You're a horrible mayor. You are so bad. a woman who wants to create more homelessness has a great shot at beating you. Just when we thought Los Angeles couldn't go far enough into the turlet. Here we go to find someone who will plumb the depths. She's Mrs. Plummer. It is awful. Smarter people have to get into this race. We know Rick Caruso's out. We know Lindsay Horvath is out. We know people who actually want to do well by the city are not running. Spencer Pratt is all we have at this point. Run for the hills. You can run. Literally the hills. Kaylee. OK, people are kind of saying maybe it's an identity crisis for the Democrats or is it an inevitable path because they can never they could never choose the path of common sense because Trump was in there. So they're always going to end up. It's almost like the woke got more concentrated. I think it's both. Look, Number one, Democrats have a problem with this. To Dana's point, I mean, there's an insurgency of these guys. Katie Wilson, Seattle, Mom Donnie, New York, you named New Jersey. Then now you've got L.A. And Pete Buttigieg said to me, oh, well, you know, the socialism thing, it's labels and name calling. But no, it appears to be an ideology being embraced by the party. Sixty six percent of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism. That's Gallup. But here's the interesting part. I think it's inevitable, Greg, to your point. I think Democrats are going to be eaten by their own because you have these Democrats. like the more moderate types who are, you know, being cozy with them. It's a label. It's name-calling. But look at what Karen Bass said. According to Politico, she was flabbergasted that a Democratic socialist was running against her. So they're coming for you. You think you're going to be the star of the party. You're going to be the next presidential candidate. Watch out for AOC because she's over to your left. You may not want to cozy up to this ideology. You may want to call it out for what it is. Karen Bass thought she was going to be Joe Biden's VP. Yeah. I mean, that's how incompetent she is. Her lack of wherewithal, it's distressing. I wish I knew what wherewithal looked like. All right, coming up next, the gray lady sobers up about weed. What is wherewithal? Notre Dame. We know who tried to kill you Notre Dame Oh Michigan Detroit Michigan The New York Times is getting blunt about their push for legalization in a new op titled It's Time for America to Admit that it Has a Marijuana Problem. More Americans now use marijuana daily than alcohol. This water use has caused a rise in addiction and other problems. I mean, And Kayla, you see this on the streets here in New York City. Maybe not necessarily connected to weed, but there's a lot out of there. It smells so bad in the city. This is a $30 billion industry, according to The New York Times, which is close to the annual revenue of Starbucks. And the crazy part is they said half of industry sales come from the 20 percent that they call heavy users. So those are the people buying marijuana. New York Times, you're late to the game. I just want to give myself a little hat tip. Back when I was in law school, I would go on HLN all the time with Dr. Drew Pinsky, who I love. I was like the resident anti-marijuana person and was like the only blonde girl out there to like argue against it. So that's like how I made my career. Thanks for coming around, Times. I mean, listen, you do it once in a while, Kennedy. I'm sure it's not going to kill you. But every day, more than booze. I mean, it's hard to do anything every day. It'd be like eating a pot roast every single day. Never had my mom's pot roast. Might be delicious. So here's the problem with weed. They didn't study it well enough. It was illegal for too long. And then when they opened the floodgates of legalization, it was like a bunch of 16 year olds were running policy and it all became incredibly irresponsible. So because it hadn't been studied, because you didn't know the effects on people's brains and you didn't have those data points. Once the market was flooded and Pandora's box was open and these horrible laws were written across the country that really didn't do anything about the black market, it means that, you know, it was ripe for people to go and abuse it because it's no longer illegal, but you didn't have safeguards in place. So you didn't have enough data to tell you when someone was impaired when they were operating a vehicle, when someone should be sent to rehab. And, you know, instead of this either or just mass prohibition or an orgy of weed, they could never find the proper moderation. And yes, I agree with you. I think people should have the right to put whatever they want in their bodies. But when infringes on other people's liberty, that's where I have an issue with it. And I also don't like the way it smells. And I am allergic. You're allergic. OK, Dana, it smells terrible. And also it's supposed to be, remember all the studies would be like, oh my gosh, this is so great. It'll cure Alzheimer's. It'll cure this. It'll make everybody feel good. And then you read all the research. It says actually none of that could actually be repeated in any other study. And then I saw a guy today, he's just walking through the subway platform, smoking marijuana and it smells terrible. I come up out of the subway. There's another guy, there's another. And I'm like, gosh, why is it so hard for young women to find people to marry? All these guys just smoking pot all day long. And in 2011, this is actually the first issue I ever gave my personal opinion on. And it was at Greg's urging because I was like, oh, well, this was the Bush administration policy. And he said, no, what do you really think about it? And I was like, I hate it. And it was a very unpopular opinion at the time. And now I'm in agreement with the New York Times. Wow. Greg, are you in agreement? No, this is where like you can, where having a strong, correct belief still results in a bad outcome. Say you're for decriminalization and you can defend it. You can defend it on libertarian or even conservative free market principles. It doesn't negate the reality that we are seeing increased psychosis on the street. So I have to eat that point as somebody that was for decriminalization. The wild, wild west of THC potency is adding a whole fresh layer to the psychosis that's on the street, just some of the studies that show heavy use of THC could raise 2.4 times the risk for schizophrenia, 3.9 times the risk with heavy use, five times the risk with daily use, five times psychotic episodes with daily use, and nearly seven times increases your risk for a first episode psychosis if you're regularly using the high potency THC. Having said that, there is a well-established link between psychosis and alcoholism. And yet that's not going anywhere. So in a tribute to our Bible study, Jesse, I thought I would say this, that when you're doing it, like, I think the mistake here is doing drugs and booze when you're really young. You should wait till you're like 70. but deciding to do the smoke pot or drink it's it's basically the bite of the apple it's the bite of the apple it's the original sin because addiction takes you away from life it takes you away from god it takes you away from any kind of connection people don't like to believe that but it is it is true so if you wake up and you look at life and you go this is not enough that's that's the bite of the apple you know when you turn to that it totally undermines everything that's been given you it shows a complete lack of gratitude for being on this planet and i think if people look at it that way like every time you get high ask yourself why you're doing it it's it's because this isn't enough well you are really evolved greg thank you for the it's from the bible study i missed i missed that day coming up next It's the bite of the apple. Gen Z would rather ride than drive. I skipped over that. It reminds me of my first kiss And those days that I always believed I'm petty, I'm the lady I'll be the class clown I'll be the beauty queen in tears It's a new iPhone showing people out Yeah! Sorry, I was just finishing the line. Welcome back. Gen Z is putting off getting their driver's licenses at 16 because it's too expensive. Driving is scary and stressful. Plus, they could just order an Uber, which is absolutely what happens with city kids. So, Jesse, how do you explain this? Because, listen, it's not just driving. They're also drinking less. They're not having sex. They're really no fun. Is it because cars are no longer shagging wagons? Shagging wagons. Yeah, I mean, it's a city thing, right? Because before you'd take a taxi or an Uber and ride the subway. But if you're in the burbs, you need wheels. You need a shagging wagon to get out of your parents' clutches and just ride around. And that's what it's like to be an American. If you don't have a license by 16, you're basically deportable. But this is not just in the cities. It's across the board. It's generational. And I think partly it's the parents because they're scared and they're so protective of their kids. And also about music. Remember, one of the reasons I love to get in my car is I could listen to anything I wanted to. I could turn it up as loud as I wanted. Books on tape. The books on tape were, well, it was books on CD back then. No, I loved driving, but I had to drive, right, because we lived in a rural area. But now, also, people don't. I wanted to go visit my friends, but now they can visit their friends on here so that you can play video games on your phone. Like, all of it is changing, and it's ruining America, Kennedy. Do you hope that your children don't drive? I know they're young. Yes. No, first of all, it freaks me out. The thought of them driving also freaks me out. The thought of them Ubering. So a catch-22. I would just say when I was young, I loved driving at 16, 15, actually, in Florida. Learner's permit with NIO. Yeah, I thought I was a gangster with my windows down. And then I found country. Greg? Two quick points. Self-driving cars will make this whole argument mute or moot. Moot. Whatever. But the other thing, too, is have you noticed there's a gap in cool used cars? When I was in high school, you had Chevelles, Mustangs, Camaros. Yeah. Thanks to Cash for Clunkers, they removed the awesome used car from our collective experience. Oh, thanks, Obama. Yeah, you wrecked everything, Obama. If that's your real name. One more thing is up next. Stay with us. Yes. It's time now for One More Thing. Greg. Good night. Our show airs. Kennedy, Jim Florentine, Aaron McGuire, Tyrus. Let's do this. Greg's sexy emu news. All right. You can't spell emu without you. Roll it. Oh, you can't spell it without you or me. Nice, Dana. Look at them wallowing in the mud. They like to get down and dirty, especially during hot weather. And it is hot where they are. They're at the Oakland Zoo where it gets super hot. They get muddy and dirty, dirty and hot. That's tonight on Hannity. That's hot, Dana. All right, Greg, don't get mad that I'm making some news. I'm going to tell you a news story. Okay. This fell off the front page. You guys, President Trump is taking away the endangerment finding for climate change. This is a gigantic deal. He deserves credit for it. It is bold to do. Obama put it in and it created all sorts of havoc all around the government. And now he is actually physically pulling it back. at the APA. That is a big deal. Jesse. Jesse, where's prime time tonight? New clues in the search for Nancy Guthrie, 8 p.m. Can't wait to see that. All right. Well, check out Fox Nation, the White House special brand new series. First two episodes are available now. There are new episodes every Friday. Check it out. Well, look at this. It is a unicyclist who's juggling, flaming juggling knobs. It looks like Johnny on the street. Even better. He didn't get arrested, but he was trying to unicycle for Listen to The Five ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts