The Biggest Blowout in Housewife History!? (RHORI Recap)

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human At Wren, we'll put a spring in your step this bank holiday. Visit your local Wren showroom right now and get up to 60% of our high quality, fully built kitchens and all bedroom units. Plus up to 7 years interest free credit. Made for making bank holiday weekends even better. Book your appointment now. Wren, made for living. Offers apply when you buy 5 or more kitchen units or 3 or more bedroom units. Finance, subject to status and minimum spend. Two Tees in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Tees in a Pod with my self Tamara Judge and Dolores. How are you? Hi, I just watched Rhode Island. Holy moly, holy moly, holy moly. These girls did not come to play. They did not. No, they didn't. They are, it's crazy, already picked up for season two. As they should be. Yes, way to go. Well, let's just jump into Rhode Island. Now this is episode eight. Okay, so it starts out a little crazy with driving lessons and now we all know why Alicia ran somebody over. She can't drive, she can't drive. No, she's just, here's the thing. When you don't have to do anything, this man does everything for her. So she can't even drive a car. He picks the daughter up back and forth for, you know, It's a really big commitment to have a kid and dance. I mean, Celine is the most amazing little dancer with her little body. She's like a fairy across the stage. You should see her. Amazing. And Philly's a great guy. I love them as a couple. I think they complement each other. And what means the most to him is being a mother to his daughter and anything else outside of that. I don't think he cares if she does or not. Well, I mean, she's a great mom. She's not a great driver. She's not a great driver. You know what? Maybe he's better off not letting her pick up Celine. I mean, she went through two stop signs. Two stop signs. She went right through it. Didn't even look. And then she's swerving across the lane. Did you see she was on the double yellow line? She's like, Hey, I did it. So do us all a favor. Don't fix it if it's not broke. Stay off the road. Get Celine and Uber if Philly can't do it. We're good. I have no problem with you not driving. Some people aren't meant to do things. Right. What did you think about her telling Billy that her blood was boiling when Liz yelled at her saying that she wasn't homeless? Well, what you didn't see was Liz did apologize right away for that. Do you think that she was yelling? Not on our standards. No. What's it to a police and a crackers? Is this a stick or is she obsessed with crackers? Always. Long before this aired. Really? Long before this aired. She always, because we were in the car going to the rails thing and she, I was hungry in the car and she had crackers and she had big newtons. She's not lying. I'm a big cracker person too. Well, you have stomach issues too. Does she have stomach issues? Yes. Oh, okay. I get it now because if you have stomach issues, you got to eat bland food and crackers. She gets very nauseous all the time. Yep. Me too. Okay. So yeah, no, it's not a stick. Okay. And her driving as we absolutely can see she's not acting. Teddy's like that. Teddy drives like that. I was on the phone with Teddy and she's driving and she's like, I just hit a curb. I'm like, yeah, I just heard it. Well, now my car won't start. I'm like, oh my God. She really hit the curb. She hit it hard. I hit it hard the other day. And I mean, it wasn't the other day. It was a few months back and me and Frankie, Funechelli were in the car laughing, going to the dry cleaners and I go over the curb and I got not one flat tire, but two flat tires. I blew out both my tires. Stop it. Yeah. And you know, it's that time when you have a man in your life and you call him and he drops what he's doing and he comes and you know, for so many parts of my life, I could, you know, have called Frank for that or Frank wasn't around. I would do it myself, but it was so nice that I pick up the phone and you got somebody there and that's the purpose of being. Can you change a tire? No fucking way. No way. Can I either triple A's for triple says amazing. Yeah. Well, um, Billy agreed with all of us and told her it was strange that she took the dolls on a girls trip. Well, Celine also thought it was silly to do it without her. It's weird. It's just like the G of it. Celine's her daughter, right? Yeah. And how old is she? She's young, eight, maybe 10. I don't know. She's young. She's young. Yeah. Um, so very tiny, beautiful little girl. So cute. So Kelsey's mom and sister visit her at her new apartment, um, which is basically the size they set of her old closet. Now I will give Kelsey this for somebody that's been pampered and taken care of and never had a worry in the world. She's not really freaking out about this moving into an apartment. Well, she was also alone a lot. Yeah. She might not have had to worry because she's not freaking out because her bills are still being paid. Tamara. Yeah, I get that. And I don't know how much she's taken. She's taken shit hits. It's some people. Then she's going to be out. Some people that rely on other people's money, you know, have to downgrade and they're like, oh my God, look at my life. Look at the small little apartment. Don't worry. She's saying it. Oh, she's saying it. Okay. She is feeling it and she's saying it. However, she has no choice right now. But since the apartment is so small, Kelsey, can you please take down your, your pageant trophies? Put them in a way. Put them in a storage or give them to your mom. Now let me ask you a question. I don't want them up. The pageant trophies. It was like 12 years ago, right? That she did this. Yeah. And she's still displaying them. Well, I still have my key to the city here that they never showed on Housewives sitting right here, but I'm not hanging it on the wall. No, like Kelsey put it away. It's time to put them in storage. Yeah. Or give them to mom. My mom has every magazine I've ever been in. My mom throws nothing out. She's still got my dress from when I was five years old. And by the way, I read something the other day that there was like this outfit passed down from the family. They put it on the kid. The kid had major skin infections, major, major. Nothing could stop it. Turns out that there's these bugs that grow in the material that even dry cleaning cannot. Oh my God, really? Yes. I have all of my kids. I have one outfit from each kid when they were, you know, newborns and I've kept it. And I've also kept my mom kept and gave it to me, my brownie uniform from when I was in elementary school. It's so cute. It's all little. And I'm like, Oh, I'll just pass it down to my kids. But I guess not after I read that. And I'm going to tell my mom today because I keep forgetting to tell her, take that fucking Cinderella dress, okay? And throw it in the garbage. Mom, you know, stops 50 years old, Valerie 60, I think my sister Valerie 60. Like it's enough. Like you can I have little Frankie stuff still. And now after I read that story, I am not putting these things on my children. Of course, christening outfits and stuff are passed down, but just be careful, you know, just be careful. I've never heard of that before. Well, I'm. Whether it's true or not, I heard it now. It's in my head. How do you think Billy feels now Billy? So Kelsey's boyfriend while she was dating the other guy, he comes over, he's helping her put things together. And the mom is kind of like, you know, do you want to get married? Do you want kids with Billy? And she's like, you know, she's like, yeah, I want him, but I don't know about now. But I would just, I couldn't imagine. She's 32, right? Right. I'm 32. You know, I don't know, like when you don't, you're not about now. Like I've heard so many girls say, I'm too young. I'm too pretty girls. Guess what? That time goes by really fast. Yeah. And that window, if you meet a guy like him, I understand if you haven't met the right person, right? Because it is very, very important who you decide to make that decision with, whether you're married or not. It is so important. Tamara, is it not like you have kids with the wrong person, you are fucking paying that debt for the rest of your fucking life. It is almost better not to or have them on your own than to have them with the wrong person. So you better be very sure. That's why I tell my kids, be careful who you procreate with. And even if it's not good for you, is that person going to be a good parent? People can fall out in and out of love all day long, right? But being a parent should be consistent. And I happen to love Kelsey's boy from Billy. I think he's so kind and attentive to her and lovely. And hey, how many women marry the safe bet? Would he be a safe bet? Is she going to ever have a big house? No. Probably not. She won't be happy. She's wanting. And she won't be lonely. And hopefully she'll be happy. Maybe that won't make, it's what makes you happy, right? Isn't it all relative? But let me tell you something. These things, they fade when you're with a miserable fuck because he was able to buy you money or you're with a guy that says, you can, you, I'll see you in six months because I have another girlfriend to go sit with. Was there any time in there is, I, I couldn't even imagine it was there any time in their 10 year relationship that he was just loyal to her? Or was he spending those 10 years with multiple women? I feel, I don't know him. And I hear he's an amazing guy, lovely guy. I liked his father on TV and you know, the judge, Caprio. And I mean, I think that this guy's lifestyle, I have cousins like this. They never met. Well, he was married. This guy has children. They just want to stay young forever. And they feel like a young woman is their fountain of youth when I've found most young women age older men. Yeah. I don't know. I just, Kelsey strongly believes that she deserves the rent, health insurance, car insurance to be paid for. For now, yeah, she does. And her mom's looking at her like, don't you want to be independently, you know, taking care of yourself financially? Well, Billy's very good to listen to me. Billy's very good to her. I don't know that I would find another guy who would be okay with the last guy still paying boyfriend paying for my stuff. No, no guy's going to want that. She's driving a Range Rover. That's the guys, right? That guy boy. Were they talking about maybe selling that? Yeah. Cause she said, Billy said, it's time for that to go and it was starting to have problems. I know they were looking for a car in the summertime when I was with them. I've been out to dinner with them. I have socialized with her. I'm sure she'll be really happy with her Toyota. Yeah. No, that's not what she was looking at. Does she work? Well, I think she was designing for a building company, you know, how they do like spec homes and things like that. Oh, okay. So she does have some kind of support. She was doing that that I know of. She had come over and helped me around the house do some things, which was really cute, really cute idea she gave me. It was such a nice frigging scene. But by the way, Kelsey wished me luck the other day. Liz wished me luck the other day for filming. So I just want to thank them. Oh, that's nice. Well, while visiting her grandfather's old house, Joe Ellen tells her mom that she should have shown her how to be respectful and how to be a good parent. This scene, it was it really kind of absolutely broke my heart. So Rosie downloads rich about what Kelsey said on the trip. Rich thinks Kelsey is projecting. What do you think? Do I think? Do I think Kelsey is projecting? No, I think they just can't stand each other. I don't think she's projecting. I don't think Kelsey looks at what she doesn't have to be a problem. I feel like Kelsey in her mind feels like she is going to be with Rosie. You think she's upset? You think Kelsey is obsessed with her? No, I don't know. But the fight that comes up at the end, I was like, holy shit, that was a bad fight in Housewife's world, even. Don't you think so? Good. It was so good. It was so bad. I mean, good. But I gave it to her. I think that I think that. I don't really know why Kelsey wants to shit on Rosie and her stuff, because they just don't like each other. I feel like there's something bigger to this. Yeah, that's what's going to ask you. Did something else happen between them that was way bigger? I do think so. I do. And I think it happened before filming. So we should get Kelsey on and ask her. Because I think there's got to be. I've never asked Kelsey or we can get Liz on and ask her. She'll tell us, but. Well, I can't wait to talk about the fight, because that was one for. I mean, that was bad. And it was about to get physical. I felt. We'll talk about it. Yeah, we'll talk about it. And then we have Joellen, her sister and her mom. They're going to the grandfather's old house. Grandfather had just passed away. You know, emotional time walking through the house. It's empty. He was a father to her. He stepped in when her father passed. I had her own bedroom in this house. She had her own bedroom. I feel like her grandparents were a big force in her life. And the grandfather was a World War II veteran. So I have a lot of respect for that. Is the grandmother. Has the grandmother passed away? Grandmother passed, I think, a long time ago, even. But I know that the grandfather walked her down the aisle for her wedding. I wonder if that's the father's parents or the mother's parents? Oh, it's the mother's parents. OK, well, I got to. Yeah, yeah, I have chills because he was a very maternal man. And and this is something very interesting to me. He was very maternal and her mother, her grandmother wasn't. So her mother wasn't. But we'll get to that. But she's trying to change that with her kids, like her grandmother. Joe Well, and her grandmother is not maternal. Her mom is not maternal. You know, she's trying not to pass that on to her own children. Like in in my family, my ex, he he kind of disowned his mom. And then he passed that on to my daughter, who kind of disowned me and my entire family. Not only that, but his grandmother, her grandmother disowned her parents. So he's a whole side of the family has a habit of doing that. So you can pass this stuff on generational trauma, emotional trauma. Absolutely. It's a thing I'm learning about that. I've read about it in my doom scrolling on Instagram. And I start, I'm starting to think it's a thing. You know, it's so funny. My grandparents were separated. They never got divorced or they still lived like a married couple, but not together. My parents lived together, lived separated, never got divorced. And I lived in the same way. I got divorced, but I lived the same way with Frank, like, you know, still spending holidays and living together like that. You listen, your childhood will fuck you up, but you can't blame your parents forever. Some parents are so afraid. Yeah, I just feel like teaching somebody to disown family members is just a horrible thing. I will clarify that my ex did reconnect with his mom here and there a few times, but not much as an adult, but it's just a really bad like you, it's your family. Like, I don't know. I just, I mean, my mom are so egregious. Tamara, they deserve to be disoriented. Yes, I will agree with that. Like I read things, of course, I could vomit seeing some things that parents have done to their children. Yes. And I don't, I don't ever tell anyone to forgive it, but it is such a part of healing for yourself. Do you think this scene is going to help them heal? Because, you know, Joellen's mom commented on Instagram. I saw it, but she, she's deleted it since. She did. You do know that. So basically under a preview clip on Instagram, Joellen's mom commented, Joellen told her side of the story. Let me tell you mine. Both her mom and dad tried to get her help. She needed up time. The last time she was sent to this facility by the doctor who witnessed her behavior, he found a placement for her and it was for nine months. She was headed down a dangerous path, hanging out with undesirable characters and her behavior was out of control. Joellen, your mom and dad did this jointly. I see you neglecting to mention your dad doing this. Blame your mom only. And you were not there for a year, nine months, whatever. I have the exact dates. Did you mention your behaviors got you sent away, not your mom and your dad? And then somebody wrote, are you related to her? And she wrote, I'm her mother. And her mom, that was like, whoa. Well, that's what I feel like when this stuff airs, I can imagine, you know, after this episode, her mom, I mean, I don't think her mom looked horrible on this episode and her mom was very, you know, apologetic. I didn't think her mom looked horrible on this episode. I felt for her mother as well. I felt for her mother as a child. I felt for her mother as a mother who now wishes she did things differently. Yes, we're a poddock of our environment. And, you know, she she was doing to her kids, what was done to her. She I am took a long time to realize like that's not the way, you know, like I was. The sister was raised in the same home and look at how different, right? Yeah, I don't, you know, that's Teddy talked about this. Teddy has a relationship with her mom like that, but her sister doesn't. So, you know, her did her sister did say she was agreeing with Jo-Alan. She did. She did. I think the sister is such a nice person, don't you? I do. I think that sometimes people let things go easier than other people. It may be her experience wasn't being sent away because she was boy crazy or whatever. I don't know. You know, I'm going to go watch this with my mother when we're done, because I would like to know what my mother thinks of this. Yeah. And but I felt the mother never saw this coming. She kind of got like, like, I don't know if the mother was hearing this from her children from the first, for the first time. I fell for everybody, but I, in this moment, I wish that everybody that approach, that approaches their parents as a hurt kid and says, as an adult, like you did this, mom, you did that. And the mother started crying and she goes, first, I felt the mother handled it. Amazing. The mother did. Let me tell you first of all, like she thought she was kidding at first. And then like when she saw it was serious, she listened and, and she, I think that Joellen should feel heard because the mother said, first of all, let me explain to you what I came from. And, and let me tell you, I'm sorry and I love you and I'm here from this day on every child that goes to every hurt child that goes to a parent and says that should hear that because that's the most a parent can do at that time. There's nothing more you can do. And that's not an easy thing for a parent to say. Do you think that Joellen had these conversations prior to filming with her mom? I don't. I don't either. I don't. I felt like this was a first. And I don't think she's a throwaway mom. I feel like her mom, she has to look at her mom like, if you're doing the best that you can, that's all I can ask for you, considering what you came from. But, you know, the mom had a dad who was very maternal and Joellen had a dad and a grandfather who was Joellen had more than a lot of kids have. Yeah. Not that it makes it okay. I cannot take, listen, I didn't have an easy childhood. I don't talk about it because it's not fair to my family. It was not easy. I'll tell you right now. So I understand hurt kids and I work with a lot of hurt kids for that reason. And, and I work with a lot of mothers who are going through things for that reason too. So I, and I'm very close with my dad. I bring them with me very close. Yeah. So let's, let's, yeah, yeah. Let's move on to the weed lab. Dolores, we got to see a scene with you. Finally, like a full scene, you and Liz, uh, trying out the menopause cannabis gumby, are they cannabis? No, they're not. All natural. So, okay, they're natural. All natural, um, natural ingredients that help with the symptoms. And I, we've made it into a losinger. I don't want to gum me, but I felt like a losinger is also soothing as well. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So I, um, what's the update? Can people buy them now or they don't, we didn't launch them yet because I wanted them to be perfect. Yeah. And, you know, of course they are not replacing hormones. They're not medical. They're not medicinal, but they are natural ingredients that if someone doesn't want hormone, you can add it to your hormone, um, protocol, or you can just, if you're like on the fence with hormones, with so many people are, which I, which they weren't, or there are some people that aren't eligible for hormones. So, um, they're there and they're, they're coming out. Very cute name. Cannot wait to save a name. Oh, I can't wait. Thank you. You'll let us know. Is there going to be a followup scene? Do you think with the, um, no, okay. But I do go, you, I mean, they're probably, what one of the other things is I love being a manopause advocate because I mean, Tamara, we've suffered like hell, right? Right. But how about shout out to the state of Rhode Island passing that law, acknowledging that menopause needs like maternity leave, you need menopause leave. You need to get your stuff together, your head, your mental, physical, everything state. Oh, I didn't know that they did that. First ever. Wow. So I hope people follow through. Who's pushing for that? Hopefully you'll see actually men passed the law over there. Wow. Um, but women did, uh, uh, present it. Um, yeah. So I'll tell you what's pushing for that older, uh, women in their 40s, CFO of companies, you know, they make it to the top of their life. And they're like, they'll pull up to work one day and go, I can't do it. Like I'm not going in. Yeah. And then, you know, this company loses their right hand. So now they're acknowledging that if you just give this woman a couple of some time off to get it together, what she needs, you may not lose your CFO or your, whatever your, your boss. So that's what that's all about. So Rula and Brian have Alicia and Billy over for dinner. And I was cringing. My asshole was just as tight as can be this entire scene. Um, I have no words for Brian. Well, I have some, but they're not very nice. I mean, Alicia, I don't feel like, you know, she backed out. She was going to go and spill the beans and tell Rula what she knew. But I don't have done. I need to know because you're different than me. No, I would not have done it there. Oh, you have all people. No. No, I, you don't go into somebody's house and in front of the husband on your husband and your husband as a couple. Yeah, you're going to know. That's woman to woman. That's woman to woman. You take her to lunch, you have her over, say, listen, I want to tell you what's going on. I would have not brought it up that night. I would have not. I mean, I don't know. She's unconscious. Alicia is uncomfortable. I wonder if you think production on your, I know New Jersey, we would have probably gotten in trouble if we didn't do it and we were supposed to do something like that. No, we don't get in trouble. We're just like, it, it maybe I would have been encouraged. Like, but yeah, it would have been. It's our choice. Yeah. You can't get in trouble. I take that back. Yeah. Who's getting us in trouble? We're house, like we're grown ass women. Yeah, grown women. Um, I think that I think it would have been probably a good scene, but, um, I could not have done that. I could have not have done that. You know what? I think it borderlines way too dirty even for a show. I do too. I do too. I just, it's dirty. You know, and home. You're, you're invited over as guests. Everything Brian said at this dinner made me cringe. Every single thing from him saying, uh, you know, he gets home at midnight. Why, why are you getting home at midnight, bro? And why are you saying, and guess what? Rula wanted a kill and she's like, what? Oh, she makes excuses for him. Oh, he's drinking too much. Oh, you shouldn't be drinking vodka. Then Brian claiming that he would, he met his wife, wasn't a wife then that he would order her double shots of vodka when they first met. That just grossed me out. Like I'm trying to get you drunk on purpose. I would order one shot of vodka. I would get two shots in hers. I'm like, oh, why would you even admit that? And then you hear his phone, a text message come through on his phone. He looks down, grabs his phone, sneaks off and says, I didn't even sneak off. Says, I got to go to the bathroom. Then he comes back. Who knows how much longer and said, sorry, I had to take a phone call from the mistress. Is that who the phone call was from? Rula. Well, first of all, I would have been getting your text messages, dude. I wouldn't know your text messages before you pick them up. There's no code I've never broken in my life. I don't care if you went to Yale. Oh, yeah. Trust me. So anyway, then we find out he doesn't only work on feet. He deals in ozempic steroids and Botox. Yeah. He's like, well, you know, I microjosezempic, I feel like I'm getting a little pudgy. So nothing's wrong with that. Then if I feel like I'm losing my muscle, then I take steroids. And then if I look in the mirror and I need my wrinkles, I do Botox. I'm like, shut up. Shut up. I don't care. Like, don't talk about it. I don't think he knows right now what to say, what to talk about. You know, I think he's, I've had better conversations with Brian and Rula. Honestly. And I don't think he's being portrayed very well. How could he be with all this going on? I think it's like a rollercoaster. Like it's a snowball effect of just not going to, you can't come back from what to start it with it. You got off on the wrong foot. Yeah. I mean, do you think like, and I, and I say this to a lot of housewives, the way you start is the way you end. No. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel the same for him. Normally when it comes to housewives, the first three episodes is basically how your season is going to go for the most part. Three to four. Yeah. It's a narrative. It's like the narrative. You guys have to understand, like we do a bazillion different things and different issues come up, but they can't cover all of them. It's 45 minutes each episode. So are you going to cover at this point with Rula and Brian? Well, I'm sure that there was a long conversation had. And he probably said a hundred nice things, but you know how reality is they're going to pluck out those ones that go. At that. I'm sure that's not the only things he said, right? Right. So I don't think Rula's happy about that. Honestly, but she's going to do, you know, you came on the show, you did know this was going to be brought up and you did probably didn't know as much as you know. Are we going to get more about this mistress stuff throughout the season? Yep. Why do I feel like he's going to go to the reunion? Of course they are. Did you see people are having fits because you said that you weren't invited to the reunion? Good, good, good. And you know what Rula just texted me before and said, I'm sorry, I feel bad. You're not coming to the reunion. I don't know. That was nice of her. Yeah. You know what? I'm not, I have too much pride to call and say, why am I not coming? You're never going to fucking hear that from me. So I'm assuming it's because you guys are in production now. That's what I'm assuming. It's one day. I know that. I know. I was never before they said we were coming back. I was not invited. Hmm. Well, I feel like I, I probably should have been. I feel like I'm close enough with the girls and I was there. I'm going to text Joseph. That's what I'm going to do. You're my, you know what? That's what real friends do. I'm going to tell. I thought about it yesterday. I care if I go or not because I'm so busy every day. Like I'm so happy I have the day off. It would be nice to be brought out just for, even if it's for, you know, one segment or whatever, like it would, it would be nice. That's the very nice of you. Thank you. I think so. Yeah, but I listened. That was their decision or whoever's decision. And, and that's the way it is. Yeah. So we see Kelsey and her Range Rover pulling up to Rosie's house with her blaring siren and she's using a PA system to say 8,000 square feet, more like 800 inches, 8,000 inches. And she's going on and on. And it's like, you know, loud noises. Fuck with me. I don't do loud noises. Even when my children, and I know you're the same way. Don't even get me started. Don't say it because I know, but loud noises trigger me. And that would have annoyed the shit out of me. Well, they're not on great terms. And was she going over there to do her hair? So this was supposed to be, yes. And I wouldn't let someone that hated me cut my hair. But it would only be, but then I thought about, and I'm like, but it would only be bad advertisement if she fucks her hair up. Rosie happens to have beautiful hair. Have you seen Rosie? She looks great. Yeah. Um, you know, uh, that would have really, really irked me. But I would have pissed you off if somebody came up to your house and was making fun and I would have said that's not, I have a weird, I have like hardly any sense of humor. So it takes a lot to make me laugh. I think Liz is hysterical, but I wouldn't have thought that was funny. And I'll tell you who else didn't think it was funny. Clemmie. And you know, poor Clemmie was upset. It's so funny because she's on the phone with Rich saying that I want to steal Clemmie and just make out with her. Cause I'm in love. She's so cute. She's an old, she's, you know, she's a senior and I'm in love with Clemmie. Um, but she, you know, she's on the phone with Rich before she gets there. And he goes, well, if Clemmie likes her, then we, you know, we have to see if Clemmie doesn't like Kelsey cause Clemmie loves everybody. As soon as Clemmie gets, as soon as Kelsey gets out of the car, Clemmie walks the other way. Oh my gosh. So, um, she, Kelsey sees the blueprints that Rosie laid out and, you know, Rosie's like, I'm going to put the blueprints out. So she set up. So she knows like this is what we're doing. Um, and she was not, because she was not, she was not, she was not, she was not interested in seeing the blueprint prints at all. Um, she's like, here, take it. You want to walk the ground? You want, listen, does it even matter how big your home is? No, no, I mean, especially coming from Kelsey and she says, where the fuck's your house? You don't have a house. She, and if I could have like, they would have, they would have, they would have had a house, they would have had a house. And they would have had a house. And they would have had a house. And they would have had a house. And they would have had a house. And if I could have like, they could play a drinking game for how many times she's like, get the fuck out of my house. Get out of my house. You know, they're going to do that. You're right. I didn't even think of that. So, so anyway, that was a really good fight. It goes back and forth. It gets escalated. Rosie unravels. Rosie basically, you know, Rosie's got that in her. Like she could get hysterical. Yeah. Real quick, but she, she didn't. Now, let me ask you something. She didn't get like that when Alicia went after her, right? Yeah. Rosie's growing on me. Is she not growing on you? Me? Yeah. She didn't like her. You don't like her. I like, no, I like all of them. I do. I like all of them. I think that they've all done such a good job. It's hard for me to like them even if I don't. Oh, okay. So, like, so Rosie, I felt that Rosie, Rosie didn't like me being there. Oh, okay. I had a feeling that Rosie had something Issues with you there. to do with me being not feeling. I could be wrong. That's breaking news. I don't know if that's true. So who's, let me ask you a question. I felt like sometimes Rosie's hot and cold. Okay. Sometimes Rosie will walk up and you could talk to her and she's the sweetest thing and I love her and Rich. And then sometimes she'll just walk up and not even say hello. And I don't, I don't know how to read that kind of thing. I know I'm 55 years old. So she's not the warmest person in the world. But then she said she had anxiety when she was on the boat and I was talking to her about that. And then I felt, I said, okay, well, then I know now why you're like that. But then I saw her at the party and she didn't have anxiety. She was talking to everybody. I don't know. Well, she had no anxiety when she was screaming and yelling. Who do you think? Okay. Let's just think about this. I feel like, I feel like equally, equally because let's not forget that Rosie drew first blood right from the beginning questioning Kelsey's relationship. Okay. You're right. She did. She drew first blood. Right. Okay. So we have Kelsey pulls up. She's using the PA system to make fun of her house. Do you think it was, right? Do you think it was just a bad joke? Did it warrant Rosie like going, hey, I think Rosie was all set to do that anyway. She had it all set up to have that happen. And I think she got, I don't know if she could, because sometimes housewives can work themselves up into a scene, into a fight. I've seen it on my show. I've seen it. Do you think that Kelsey was aggressive at all? No. No, I wouldn't say. She didn't really say much. I feel like it was a lot of screaming and yelling by Rosie. I mean, Rosie, I mean, she, Rosie was in her space. Well, that they got, they, she put her hands on her and she said, don't put your hands on me. I did feel like Rosie's response was a little bit too over the top, just a little bit. Like Kelsey, yeah, you're an asshole. Tell her she's an asshole and go like, what the fuck? Like, what are you doing? It was built up over time. It was built up. The only thing Kelsey cared about was my boyfriend did not pay for me to win Miss America or whatever I'm not a slam pig. I don't fuck married men. But let me just let you know I won that pageant fair and square. Well, at least we know what she's admitting to and what she's not admitting to. What? I had to look up a slam pig because I didn't know what that was. Did you? What is it? I mean, it's self-explanatory, no? It's typically an overweight or ugly or only sought after for pumping and dumping. So just like in a sexual act, like pumping dump. I almost felt like she made up the word like prostitution whore. Slam pig now that's slam pig. That's a new one. So it's an actual like prostitution whore, isn't it? Well, it is now. Should be in the dictionary. Welcome back, slam pig. Welcome back, slam pig. That is hilarious. Well, anyway, Rosie, this was a buildup. And you know, I here's what I like about the men and let's really recognize this. One thing I give these men, they act like men on the show should. They diffuse their wives. They don't call the other woman a name. They are saying like, listen, take the high road. How you handle it like Billy was telling Alicia, how you handled it is what you can control. And you know, even here, you know, Rosie's husband Rich was saying, well, handle it this way or handle it that way. I like these men. I do. Don't you? Yeah. Except for Brian. Right. But I don't like, like I said, I don't like when men get nasty about other women on shows. No, I don't either. And it happened to you. Yeah, I don't either. And I'm using your show for an example. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, why I mean, don't you look at this camera and say that's the way men should act on a show? Just saying. But Rosie yelling at Kelsey, you suck. You sucking dick isn't a job. That was a good line, though. Sometimes it's the oldest actually Rosie. Let me let me let you in on and a little fact. It is the oldest occupation in history. So after Rosie throws Kelsey's glam suitcase outside, she puts, you know, glam squads. Don't fuck with their kids. No, she pushes Kelsey out the front door, which leads to the producer telling Rosie to stop and kind of grabbed her. I would have kicked the door in if it was closed. I would have picked up my thing and threw it back through the door. I would have thrown it through the window. I actually know that you would have and I actually have to, watching that scene got me all hot and bothered and I have to know that God forbid something ever occurs this season like that. I cannot do what I in my mind am doing. I get too much like probably, you know, yeah, no, I get it. Especially if I take a diet pill like I did today. I can't do that. The best thing you can do is like just walk away when you feel that way. If you feel you want to slam somebody's head. I've done that. Just walk away. I've walked away before I've thrown someone down the stairs. Yeah, I had to walk away. I had to walk away. That's all I'm going to say. I'm taught like, you know, I've worked very hard, Tamara, you as well. Anger management, calming down, these all these all things coming, but it's there. Oh, it's just buried. It's just there. Yes, just it's not God. It's buried. It's there for good. Yeah. Oh, trust me. I know. I have to like. You want to see me and Tamara fight with each other? No. I'm not going to do this. But yeah, it was, I mean, another great episode. I was glad that we got to see you on this episode. Made me very happy. But I really don't want Rhode Island to end. Oh, well, we have some time. I know, but I feel like their season's going to be shorter. I don't know how many episodes, but I'm definitely going to text Joseph. Matt knows. 12 is not enough. That's 12 episodes without. There will be a three-part reunion next year. They'll be doing 17 episodes like everybody else this coming season. Well, New Jersey never gets that. I know. That's so weird. You guys don't get the big trips and you do only get 12 episodes. Maybe we'll get a big trip. Maybe Darren. Why? I you need to ask why that's a good question. I would like to ask Andy Cohen. Why does Jersey only get 12? I understand Rhode Island because they're new, but every other franchise pretty much gets 17 if I'm not mistaken. I think Andy always said that he'd like to give just enough of us. Whatever that means. I don't really. I guess I don't even know if I'm making that up. I felt like he said that. I don't even know. But there's never been a really valid answer. Why? But hey, it is so good. I actually have to call Liz and tell her because I'm like Liz last last week I thought was eyes. It's fallen a little short, but this week it did not disappoint. It didn't disappoint. And were there previews for next week? I forgot. Yeah. What was it? I forgot it. Look. So Kelsey. Remind me. It's Liz versus Joelle. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Alicia and Liz. Yeah. And then Kelsey walks in with the Slam Pig USA. The sad. The sad banner. Yeah. The. Which is a funny. Listen, now that for me. That's funny. That is an olive branch. And then Ashley begging them to stop fighting. She's so pretty. She's beautiful. So sweet and beautiful. And she's just all the things. Perfect. Ashley I is such a perfect human. We need more Ashley eyes. No. Not on housewives. I don't hate Kelsey by any means. I don't like she doesn't even like. We cannot negate the fact that Kelsey is putting her shit out there. Yes. And she's making the show interesting too. Like, you know, I don't want to be one of those people on social media that's like, get rid of her fire her get. She's annoying. I have been happened to me a million times. And then when they get rid of that person, oh, the show falls flat. It's another Lisa Renek get rid of her. She's horrible. Then the show fell flat. Like, I feel like we need so many different personalities on this show. Honest. How many fucking girls would say they're a couple of men or daddies that are. She's like, she is making no bones about her life. Yeah. We'll see. And by the way, she handled that fight pretty well. Do you have to go film? Are you filming today? I'm off. I'm on today. I feel good. Yeah. It feels really suddenly, you know, when you hear something crazy. After stopping filming, I feel kind of sad. I feel kind of like depressed. I go see a fucking psychiatrist then because that's not something. Isn't that weird? Like I usually I'm always like, I'm done. I'm over it. But when you have a reunion, there's people on the show that I will miss being with all the time. Like I might have to make an effort and go do girl things. We'll hang out with people. Give yourself some time before you make those decisions. Because you know, I'm not that girl. I know. Very seldom do I'm like, Hey, girlfriend, let's go out to dinner. Let's go out to lunch. No need. No need. No. Nope. No. At my age, I'm like, nah, I got enough with my kids and my husband and my dog. And my dog. Yeah. How's rugby's little boo boo? You know, he had the surgery. It's been a week, only a week. And they redid the, they took the plate out of one leg and then they had to do the same surgery on the other leg. But the other leg, I feel like wasn't as bad because it had just happened. Right. It just happened. So he's doing really well for just, I mean, he saw his staples in his legs. He goes in next week to have that removed. But overall, he's doing really well. Gabby had to remove a two and a half pound blanket out of a dog's stomach the other day. No. She was, and the dog like was so sick. She didn't leave work. It's not an overnight hospital. How did they do that? Laid in the kennel with that dog until it woke up at 12 o'clock at night. How did it like cut it open and then pet open the stomach? Yeah, she was elbow deep in the dog's stomach. Oh my gosh. Two and a half pound blanket. Damn. Dude. Well, didn't they notice like where's the swallow and blankets? Huh? Did they, did they not know what was wrong with the dog? Like did they not notice that the blanket was missing? I wouldn't notice a blanket missing here. If I blankets all the time, Paul's going to kill me. It's like another blanket. Oh my God. All right. Well, enjoy your day off. Yeah. We grew. It's not long enough. 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