Best of NFL News Part 2: Shannon Sharpe YAWNS at Aaron Rodgers likely BACK, HEARTBROKEN Over Tragic Passing of Rondale Moore at 25
53 min
β’Feb 25, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco discuss NFL offseason moves including Aaron Rodgers' likely return to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator change, and the Baltimore Ravens' new offensive coordinator's public comments about offseason participation. The episode concludes with somber coverage of Vikings WR Rondale Moore's tragic death at age 25.
Insights
- New coaching staff messaging matters: Public calls for participation can backfire with star players; private communication is more effective for establishing tone
- Injury accumulation and mental health crisis: Repeated season-ending injuries (ACL tears in consecutive years) create compounding psychological burden beyond physical recovery
- System continuity vs. fresh starts: Players value learning new systems when it signals organizational change, but require healthy offensive line support to succeed
- Quarterback contract restructuring becoming standard: Elite QBs who outperform contracts (like Lamar Jackson) require mid-deal adjustments to manage salary cap
- Voluntary offseason programs create accountability gaps: Without enforcement mechanisms, star players can skip OTAs while maintaining plausible deniability
Trends
NFL offseason program participation becoming proxy for commitment messaging between coaches and star playersIncreased focus on mental health support infrastructure following player suicides and career-ending injuriesQuarterback contract restructuring mid-deal becoming normalized for MVP-caliber playersNew coaching hires emphasizing system change and fresh starts as retention/recruitment toolMedia scrutiny of coaching communication style and player relationship managementACL injury recurrence rates creating career trajectory uncertainty for young receiversSalary cap management forcing elite QB contract extensions earlier in deal cycleOffensive line health as primary determinant of offensive system successPlayer mental health crisis linked to injury-prone status and career uncertaintyCoaching staff turnover creating both opportunity and risk for franchise QBs
Topics
Aaron Rodgers Free Agency and Pittsburgh Steelers FitPhiladelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator TransitionBaltimore Ravens Offseason Program Participation ControversyLamar Jackson Contract Extension and Cap ManagementNFL Voluntary OTA Participation and Coaching CommunicationRondale Moore Mental Health Crisis and Suicide PreventionQuarterback Contract Restructuring StrategyOffensive Line Health Impact on System PerformanceNew Coaching Staff Integration and Player RelationshipsACL Injury Recurrence in NFL Wide ReceiversNFL Player Mental Health Support ResourcesFree Agency Timeline and Draft ScheduleSaquon Barkley System Transition and PerformanceNFL Peer Players Association Support ProgramsCoaching Tone-Setting and Star Player Management
Companies
Pittsburgh Steelers
Primary destination discussed for Aaron Rodgers' potential return; new head coach and system change cited as attraction
Philadelphia Eagles
Offensive coordinator transition and Saquon Barkley's adaptation to new system discussed as championship contender
Baltimore Ravens
New offensive coordinator's public comments about offseason participation sparked debate about coaching communication...
Minnesota Vikings
Rondale Moore's tragic death at age 25 after suffering ACL tear in preseason game discussed in context of mental heal...
NFL Players Association
Issued statement regarding Rondale Moore's death and mental health resources available to players
People
Aaron Rodgers
Quarterback likely returning for 2026 season with Pittsburgh Steelers; discussed as aging star needing supporting cast
Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens franchise QB facing contract extension; debate over offseason participation and Super Bowl aspirations
Saquon Barkley
Philadelphia Eagles RB in year 9, adapting to new offensive coordinator system; discussed as championship-caliber player
Rondale Moore
Minnesota Vikings WR who died by suicide at age 25 after suffering ACL tear; mental health crisis discussed
DK Metcalf
Pittsburgh Steelers receiver discussed as needing additional weapon support alongside Aaron Rodgers
Howie Roseman
Philadelphia Eagles GM credited with effective roster assembly and player acquisition/disposition decisions
Tom Pelissero
NFL insider cited as reporting Aaron Rodgers' increasing likelihood of returning for 2026 season
Jamal Adams
NFL player who tweeted about injury-prone labeling and mental health toll of repeated injuries
Hollywood Brown
Former Rondale Moore teammate who received message from Moore hours before his death
Quotes
"You don't know sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something, you have no earthly idea, none."
Shannon Sharpeβ’Rondale Moore tribute segment
"The process can make you lose yourself. This ish is real. No matter how much support you get, you still gotta fight that battle alone."
Jamal Adams (tweet)β’Rondale Moore tribute segment
"You don't call out your fucking franchise quarterback. What the fuck you don't understand? You don't do it."
Shannon Sharpeβ’Ravens offensive coordinator debate
"If only for one night. I got to see that man on the stage. I got to see him."
Shannon Sharpeβ’Lamar Jackson Super Bowl discussion
"He's too talented not to get there at least once. I don't know what's going to happen, but I want to see him get there."
Shannon Sharpeβ’Lamar Jackson Super Bowl discussion
Full Transcript
This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent gumster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I am Greg Rosenthal. I know that, Greg. We're teaming up on 40s and Free Agents, the podcast that owns the NFL offseason. This is where teams are built. free agency combine pro days trades every move matters from my draft boards and mock drafts to my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together quarterback movement surprise signings we'll tell you what it means and who really wins open your free iHeartRadio app search 40s and free agents and listen now Ocho, it seems to me Aaron Rodgers is returning for one more season and it appears increasingly likely per Tom Pelissero. The odds are rising that he comes back. I don't see it being any other plays. If he's going to play, I believe it's going to be for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ocho? Yeah. New head coach, familiarity. Charity, Mike McCarthy, even if he comes back, are the Steelers legitimate contenders for the Super Bowl next season? I mean, I wouldn't say legitimate contenders. I mean, they're legitimate contenders in the AFC, depending on what they'reβ AFC North. AFC North. But they still got a long way to go. They got to work on that defense too, Unc. As great as the players, as great as the names are, you know, that they had on that defense. They didn't play like it, huh? No. They didn't play like it. They need another weapon to go alongside DK Metcalf. They do. They need another. I'm talking about a reliable option to go along DK Metcalf. He can't do it by himself. Obviously, as great as Aaron Rodgers was, he is not the Aaron Rodgers of old, but he needs players around him to elevate his level of play. So he doesn't have to wait. Wait. He doesn't have to take the burden of the shoulders in having to elevate the players around him because he's not the same. He's not the young Aaron Rodgers of O. And it would be great if they get a better supporting cast around him. I mean, running game is decent. Get you one solid receiver, just one more receiver that you can count on, that you can be blindfolded, you can hike the ball, and you know exactly where he's going to be and you know he's going to be open for you every single time. You mean shoulder to bird? They need a bad boy, huh? You mean shoulder to bird? Yeah, shoulder to bird, shoulder to bird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't had to use that in so long. You got it. I was like, hold on. What did I say? What did I say? You said bird in the shoulder. I said it backwards. My bad. Yeah. No, but you know what, Ocho? You Ocho. We already know what you meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, I agree, Ocho. I agree. I mean, because, you know, look. I don't think, I don't think. Look, it's going to be very interesting to see the Patriots. Can they replicate? Because they won the division, you'll have a more difficult schedule. You'll play division winners and you play a different conference this year. Buffalo, what do they do? The Broncos, what do they do? The Texans, what do they do? All those teams, you know, the Texans, that defense, I don't see that defense dropping off. Hell no. Maybe, Ocho, they go get a protector. Okay. Because I don't really see. I don't think they need a whole lot. Mm-mm. They don't. I don't think they need a whole lot because they got guys that can go get after the quarterback. Mm-hmm. The secondary. That secondary is top tier. Phenomenal. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Tankdale coming back. Yes. You know, they got a couple of receivers that played really well in the absence of Tankdale. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be opposed if they went and got a tight end. I like Dalton Schultz, but if I can find somebody that, look, we saw the tight end, the benefit that it brought Chicago. We saw what it did for Warren and Indy. We saw Kyle Pitts Jr. when they gave him opportunities, how the offense flows when they get the tight end involved. Right. And so I agree with you. I'm not like, oh, yeah, Aaron Rodgers come back and now they got McCarthy and they're going to be favorites. No. No. No. But what it does do, it gives you a chance. It gives you a chance to compete. Because if Aaron Rodgers doesn't come back, oh, my goodness, it's going to get ugly. It's going to be nasty. Sean Manion replaced Kevin Petula as the Eagles' OC, and Saquon said he loved the challenge of putting yourself in a new system, and that's what he knows. This is what sets us apart from everyone else that he's played for so far. Saquon said, I'm super excited about it. I'm going on year nine, which is crazy to say. I've had a lot of different coaches and head coaches and been a part of a lot of systems. I don't think I really came across a system like this. For me, it's refreshing. You get something new. You get to learn something new. I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. I ain't like learning the new system. No, I mean, I wouldn't either. Because you got to think, because while you learned it, Ocho, you out there like, damn, am I supposed to? Mm-hmm. I look like taking it off. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, listen. Go ahead. What you thinking? Listen, the best part of being in the system and having continuity of knowing exactly what to do and being able to play the game really fast and not having to think, you know, it is a great thing. Obviously, you have the off-season program. You get to get in your playbook. And by the time you get to the season, you'll be familiar with the new system. But just having the old one and knowing everything from front to back, it pays dividends. It pays dividends where you can just go play. All you have to do is just read and react, read and react. It's a great thing. Doesn't it feel good to don't have to take your playbook home? Listen. Man, I got some sick and taking that playbook home my first two years, Ocho. Damn. I'm like, man. Only best part about it, I'm home by myself. It's kind of like when I went back to school to finish up my degree, Ocho, and I'm sitting in class, and I ain't much old. Ocho, I'm 22. Right. I just turned 22, so I graduated before my 23rd birthday. And I'm sitting up in class, I'm like, damn. I feel old. even though I'm only 23 Ocho but I think my mindset I'm like man I'm in the NFL I should be in here but I was like man I am not hey I'm 20 hours short of a degree right man I'm finna get this I'm finna get this hey Ocho I'm finna get this degree right oh hell yeah but uh and it's like just a study man I just and once I get it I'm good I'm good but you know some people say it's like that so you know some people you know it's refreshing to them and you hear St. Kwan use it's refreshing to learn a new system and to be you know all of a sudden you know it's just not second nature to you right you think you have a bounce back season it depends if the offensive line stays healthy it all depends on Lane Johnson and Dickerson Yeah, if everybody comes back healthy and they're fine, I think he can have a bounce-back season. In year nine, I don't see Saquon slowing down at all. Anytime soon, barring injury, if he can stay healthy and that offensive line stay healthy, hell, I can see them back exactly where they need to be, and that's competing for a championship. I think the thing is that everything is really contingent. But this offense, they made a concerted effort. Saquon Barkley, y'all are not going to beat us running this damn football. That's not going to happen. Right. So if you're going to beat us, your quarterback, he's going to have to beat us throwing the football. Saquon is not going to do what he did last year. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry, Eagles. And it definitely hurt that Lane got hurt. Dickinson was dealing with what he was dealing with all year long. I think he had surgery right before the season. The center had surgery, if I'm not mistaken, in the offseason. So now, instead of rehabbing, he'll get to train. Hopefully, Dickinson will be fully healthy. He'll get to train. Lane is coming off an injury. So he had that. I don't know if he had. Did he have surgery for this Lillard's Frank? Because I know he had a Lillard's Frank. I don't know if he had surgery or he let it heal on his own. So hopefully. And when. Look, he's just one of the best. offensive linemen in all of football, regardless of position. Right. And with that being said, if they go back to being dominant, it makes everybody's jobs on the offensive side of football easier. Easy. But we still, we got to see how this thing plays out in free agency because we're going to see, is A.J. still there or are they moving on? We're going to know Ochoa in the first week of free agency. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Hold on, hold on. When is free agency? April? Like, oh, it's coming. No, hell no. What? It's March. Oh, it's early. The draft is in. No, you got to buy. It's about two weeks. Oh, hey, it's going to get interesting. The draft is in April. Hey, it's going to get interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so we'll find, you know, we'll find out if Max Crosby, is he going or is he staying? Huh? He didn't have surgery? Okay. And so. yeah yeah yeah I saw that Dickson is also I saw both of them you know I saw that post both of them um also uh when is when is the uh for agency start oh yeah yeah March 11th okay see Ocho we hey hell it's the 22nd are you two are you two you basically you basically you basically wait it's the 22nd it's the 22nd already 22nd of feb you know it's the shortest month hey hey boy 2026 going by fast can we ask some more days to february oh nah nah nah we gotta why not they do with everything else they I mean they done move spring forward and fall back they done let that thing come so quick yeah I mean it used to be you fall back and now they springing forward damn damn February it used to be I think it used to be in April damn around Easter time damn man hey buddy you're going by fast we already going into March I just told my sister and I just had this conversation I said we about to be three months into 26 already it feel like the ball dropped two weeks ago Damn And your boy about to be 40 About to be 48 again Okay okay Wait when's your birthday? June 26th Boy what we doing? You know we can have a nice little party Huh? Well ain't no telling We can have a little party or something Hey I would tell you like my grandpa You say whatever the Lord sees fit hey I like that I like that yeah whatever whatever the Lord see fit yes sir I'm not a big I'm not a big I'm not a big party at all Joe oh shit me neither I haven't celebrated I haven't had a party for my birthday yet I love I say a prayer at 1159 hold on somebody say hold on they say we spring forward in March I know damn well we ain't about to spring forward already. We just fell back two months ago. Hold on, what you mean? I'm confused. What'd that mean? You set the clocks up. Okay. So that mean we lose an hour of sleep? Yes. Okay. We just fell back two months ago. What the hell? It's crazy how that worked there, huh? Man, spring forward used to be after Easter. Pretty soon they're going to have Easter. I mean, Easter used to be like the third weekend in April. They got Easter on the first weekend, the second weekend. Pretty soon they're going to have Easter. They're going to have St. Paddy's Day and then a week later have Easter. Yeah. Damn. Man. But the Eagles, look, the one thing you can't count the Eagles out. Because the one thing that we know about Jeffrey Lourdes, that he gives Howie Roseman a lot of control. And Howie has done a great job of assembling this team. He knows when to bring pieces in. He knows when to get off pieces. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. 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Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. new Ravens offensive coordinator uh the clan the clan Doyle emphasized the importance of offseason workout he didn't single out any player but probably didn't need to we would expect players to be here and certainly it is voluntary but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship you want to say that you have championship standards those are the goals those are the expectations certainly that's going to take work that's going to take collaboration and that's going to take the beginning of building of a relationship with their coaches and other players starting the next regime on the right foot Ocho you know who you're talking to I think he's talking to everybody because I think the conversation with with uh what's on the name that looked like he part of the mob yeah but shoddy and shoddy and lamar had already had that conversation about him being there in the offseason and taking part in the offseason program. So we already know he's going to show up. I think he wants to make sure everyone else is on board. Ocho, stop that. You know he's not talking to but one person. Everybody else goes, which guy hasn't been there seven of the last offseasons? Last seven of the late offseasons, which guy hasn't shown up? Timeout. Timeout. We talk about the D coordinator, right? No, we talk about the offensive coordinator. The offensive coordinator ain't calling out motherfucking Lamar Jackson. I can tell you that. Okay. I guarantee you that. No, he didn't call out. The new offensive coordinator is not calling out the team franchise leader. Ocho. After you already had a conversation with the owner. The same one who was up for contract extension. He's not calling him out. Which guy? You don't want to start that. Just answer the idea. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. you are not going to be the new officer coordinator and come in talking shit already and piss the man off. Now you're starting a relationship off on the wrong goddamn foot. He's not talking to Lamar. He's talking to everybody. We're not finna do that. Okay, he's talking to everybody. Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven or eight years? I mean, Lamar has it and I'm sure other people haven't as well. Okay. Joe, what do you think about that, Joe? so because now you're saying everybody is just as important as lamar but go ahead oh joe go ahead finish off listen i'm catching i'm catching up i'm i'm picking up what y'all putting down you hear me i mean hey i understand what you mean you hey oh you you saying you saying this the you saying it's the offensive coordinator you know they talking about lamar what you do is that you talk. You know who he's talking to. There's a lot of times that they would talk. They would talk. They're talking to the best player, but they're not talking. But they don't talk. There you go. Indirectly, yeah. No. I guarantee you. I guarantee he not. I guarantee you. Because all it's going to do is piss him off. Why is he going to piss him off, Ocho? What you mean why is he going to piss him off? He hasn't been there in the offseason. You're not finna get no new job and then get out here talking trash like that. Hit my line if you need me there. I don't need you. Why I gotta say I need you there? I gotta tell you I need you there? Hold on. No, if he ain't been there the past seven, eight years. So who's he talking to? Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's what I needed you to say right there. He ain't talking to him. I guarantee you that I did that joke. I guarantee you that I did that joke. Hey, and you know what? I guarantee you're not talking to him. You say I did that joke. Put a name on it. Y'all see how I did that right there? Hold on. Put a name on it. No, we ain't got to put no name on it. Put a name on it. Because what's going to happen is, what's going to happen is, is you're going to piss him off, and this new coordinator that's coming in trying to, what? What precedent is he trying to set? He's saying, hold on. Calling out, what precedent? Let me finish. What precedent are you setting calling out the starting fucking quarterback publicly? What are we doing? That's stupid. Listen to this. we would expect players to be here and certainly it is voluntary but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship you say you want to have championship standards and those are your goals your expectation certainly that's going to take some work and it's going to take collaboration so is the offensive coordinator collaborating with the defensive is he coordinating with the if he's coordinating with the wide receivers, the offensive line, who is he in calibration with, Ocho? You know I'm supposed to be a lawyer, right? I could have been one, too. And I guarantee he ain't talking to him. Guarantee that. And I guarantee he don't show up. I bet that. Hold on. You want to get a new job. you want to be goddamn Spodey trying to show off because you got a new job as an officer coordinator and you call not your starting franchise quarterback, I guarantee he won't show up just to show you. You don't do nothing like that coming in as a new coach. You don't do that. You don't call. It's dumb. It's stupid. It's dumb and it's stupid. Why would you piss off your quarterback with a message like that? What sense does that make? what you missing the point let me ask you this there is no point if you want lamar to show up you text lamar i want you if this is what you're trying to do what you're trying to do let me finish everything he just said publicly he's gonna say that to lamar if you want lamar to show up what are you proving saying it publicly what are you doing who's it gonna piss off all i remember. Tell me. Who's it going to piss off? All I remember is a guy saying he wanted to win a championship more than anything, but I need to call you and ask you to show up. Interesting. So you go out publicly and you get a new job and you call out the franchise quarterback. That's going to work out real fucking well. Okay. Come on. I'm trying to figure out. Hold on. I'm trying to figure out. Let's go back and see what quarterback has won a championship that didn't participate in OTAs. All those years except the last three years of Tom. So you think calling out Lamont Jackson is going to work. Let me finish my point. So you think calling out your franchise quarterback is going to get you to the championship. Yeah, that's real smart. Good job. Good job, officer coordinator. let's call out the franchise quarterback question you think sam donald participated in ota last year yeah do you think drake may participated in ota last year tell me the quarterback that you don't think participated in ota's ocho what does that have to do with what we're talking about so you so you know so in other words you Again, I'm going to say it one more time because it seems to be going in one ear and out the other. So calling out your franchise quarterback is the way to go about doing things when you want him to show up to OTA. Is that what you're saying? All the man say it is, he didn't single out nobody. And you said he's talking to Lamar Jackson, the person that hadn't showed up. So is that the way to go about doing it? Calling out your franchise quarterback publicly. How is that supposed to help anything? outside of just pissing him off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I tell you what, he's going to be more pissed if he go another year and don't get to the Super Bowl. The criticism is going to grow louder and louder and louder and louder. Okay, I got a question. He shows up to OTAs and they don't go to the Super Bowl, then what? Ocho, we had this conversation. Then what? Working hard. And then what? This is a new system. This is a new system. He's been in that system before, Ocho. Come on, what is it that you don't understand, Ocho? You don't call out your fucking franchise quarterback. What the fuck you don't understand? You said he wasn't talking to him. You said you weren't talking to him. No matter what. You don't do it. you don't do it you're going to piss him off you know that did Belichick call out Brady did Belichick call out Brady you talk about they won six Super Bowls in there five Super Bowls and he called out Tom Brady who he won six Super Bowls with but you mean to tell me Lamar Jackson can't get called out so you really compare Lamar Jackson to Tom Brady That's what I'm asking you. Are we doing that? That's what I'm asking you. That's the point. No, listen. Let me finish. The new officer coordinator, who I don't even effing know, calls out the franchise quarterback, and you're comparing that to what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did? Are you serious? I'm asking you. Are you serious? I got it when six Super Bowls got called out, but a guy that hadn't been to the Super Bowl, he can't get β he's above reproach. You know what? Don't worry about it. Okay. I say we, what we're not going to do is we're not going to have common sense here. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because call the rule number one. Listen, listen to me. Call the rule number one. You never chastise your quarterback. That is the only coach, the only coach that has ever called out But you said you don't chastise your quarterback. He can, let me finish. He can do that. Why? They had that relationship. What relationship they had? They had that relationship. Let me finish. They had the relationship to set the tone for everybody else to let everybody else know. Thank you. It's an even playing field here. Thank you. That's how you set the tone. That's how you set. Thank you, Ocho. You see, Joe, what I do? You see how I want you walking into the trap? You set the tone. What trap? They've won four or five Super Bowls. They haven't. What are we talking about? Let me ask you a question. I'm trying to compare two. Let me ask you a question. It's not the same. Let me ask you a question. So do you think Coach Belichick called Tom Brady out before or after he won a Super Bowl? they had already no they did not stop it Ocho they had one for him 20 left and what are you talking about I was told I was told that he called him out from the beginning so Tom Brady has never been above reproach go ask the other guys that played on the team why are we talking about the Patriots we're talking about the Baltimore Ravens and a new officer coordinator calling out his franchise quarterback publicly. You said that's how you set the tone. Coach Belichick was setting a tone, but now you don't want this coach to set a tone. What tone are you setting piss off your quarterback? Why are you pissing him off? He just asked if you want to win. You got standards. You got to do things a certain way. You can text me that. If you're talking to him, what sense are you making? What are you trying to prove saying it publicly? If you want Lamar there, you text Lamar and tell him I would like you here for the offseason because we have a new game plan. Joe, your coaches ever call you and say they wanted you to be somewhere, Joe? Or you just did the right thing because you knew it was important? Hold on. Now you're saying. You had no turn to talk. It's voluntary. Let Joe talk. Now you're saying. Let Joe talk. You ain't going to let Joe talk? No. It's voluntary. So now it's the right thing. Now it's the right thing. So it's being. It's voluntary. He doesn't want to be there. Guess what else is voluntary? Being great. What? That's voluntary, isn't it, Joe? He is great. He is great. Go ahead, Joe. What were you saying, Joe? So now he's not great? Hold on. So Lamar's not great? Are you saying Lamar's not great? You're not going to let Joe talk. So Lamar's not great? You're not going to let Joe talk. So Lamar's not great. The two-time MVP's not great? Joe, you're not going to let the man talk, Ojo. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, anytime you have something voluntary and you show up, Obviously, you know, coaches appreciate that. But not only that, like, if he been doing the same thing over the past seven, eight years, Ojo, I think coach is trying to send a message, bro. Like, in order for us to reach something that we've never had before, obviously, we got to do something we've never done or hadn't been doing. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, and you know what? I hope for the coach's sake, since he's setting the goddamn tone in February, I hope they end up in what a goddamn Super Bowl next year, LA? I hope the Ravens in goddamn LA next year. Since he want to come out and be big badass instead of just texting him, I would like you to be here for the all-season program. I would have thought that, you know, because it's reported. Now I don know if it true that Lamar was a part of the hiring process Now I don know with the head coach Now I don know if he a part of the hiring process with the offensive coordinator But normally, normally, normally, normally, when you have a new staff, even though it's voluntary, you show up because of the importance of it. It's a new system, both offensively and defensively, and your best player, he sets the tone for everyone else. If your best player is there, everybody else will feel obligated and come and you get a head start on things. Trying to develop that chemistry and continuity early. Because it's a new system. I've been through this with Wade Phillips. I've been through it with Mike came there. And then when I went to Baltimore, it was a new system. So I went for the OTAs, even though I didn't do a whole lot. But I thought it was important for my presence to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Ocho, you ain't never had to switch systems like that? I'll see, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I was always the off-season program. Yeah. Yeah. Dang, Ocho, man, you got a little sandwich, man. God dang. Man, you got any coaches coming here talking all that shit, man. Green-ass, nigga, man. Who you supposed to be? Nigga, you trying to prove something, trying to show off like you running something? Man, just text me. Green-ed, peanut-headed-ed coach, man. Trying to show off. He trying to show off, man. That man, he trying to show off. Ocho, stall him out, man. He trying to show off, man. All that's unnecessary. Man, text me. You want to see me. Oh. Oh. Hey OJ, you about to lose your voice for what? Hey, come on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, I like when we get into it like this. We've been getting into it like this in a long time. If the chat be getting upset when they don't know, man, this man be calling me, talking about, I want to argue tonight. For what? He got to argue. This man, Jack, I want to argue tonight. I'm like, we ain't got no money to argue about. I'm just saying, as a player, it's just unnecessary. You know, you're a new coach, you're coming in. I understand you want to set the tone. You want to establish yourself as an officer coordinator, but there's no need to say what you said publicly. You know, that conversation is something that's to be had with Lamar Jackson. when you say something like that to the player that hasn't been there, you know, seven of the last eight years. I mean, why are you even calling me out? You know, you already know how players are, though. And if it's any player, you know, and you hear your coach say that, well, God damn, you could have just, you could have hit my line. You know? And so, like, I mean, I just think it's green. No disrespect to coach, man. Hey, you done called a man peanut. You don't talk about you who got no disrespect. You done called a man on peanut head. I'm not really talking to him. I'm just referencing his act and what he said publicly. That's all. I'm sorry. I apologize, Chad. I'm sorry. What you apologizing for? Hey, you got me worked up, Joe. Joe, I don't never get like this, Joe. I know, man. Got my man blood pressure up high and everything. I'm sweating, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, remember the last time me and Unc was like this? Joe, we were talking about boots and boots and remember we were talking about boots. Oh, yeah, yeah. He would tell me to pick between one or the other. Boy, Joe. Boots and Haney? No, boots and Terrence Crawford. He was telling me, man, you got to pick one or the other. No, I ain't got to pick either one. Hey, boots, Cole. I like boots, old Joe. 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I just think the thing is is that if what was reported is true that the kind of relationship with Monk and Lamar had kind of deteriorated I think he's going to look at this as a breath of fresh air give him an opportunity to get there because no matter what you think especially when you dealing with Lamar. He's the table setter. He's the guy that everybody's looking to, and when he's there, all is right in the world in Baltimore. In Raven country, Raven's flock, all is right when your franchise quarterback is there. Like, okay, we're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. Hey, Joe. What's up? When Lamar Jackson won those two MVPs, he wasn't there in the offseason. Well, the first one he was, he was there. Hey, ain't he up? Is he up? Is he up for? Yes. Oh, ain't nobody no being up. He's getting his contract done this offseason. They redoing it. Yes, for sure. They're right when he's doing it. His cap number too high. You got to lower that cap number and you got to take care of it. Because he's outperformed the contract that he signed. And normally with quarterbacks, when you outperform the contract, he's well on his way to being the best player. Right now, I still think that's right. But I think when it's... Hey, Joe, you heard that? You heard what I just said? What's that? He's the best player. He outperformed last... You know what? He outperformed his contract. You know, he wasn't in the off-season program last year either. And guess what he wasn't in the off-season? He wasn't in the Super Bowl either. What? hey neither were the broncos hey i'm just saying i know hey i'm just saying you know this and i was hurt quarterbacks yes matter super bowl matters yeah you know you can say what he did this he did that superbowls matter lamar jackson gets a super bowl oh it's a wrap that monkey that monkey off his back. He can play the rest of his career in cruise control. He might, he get to the Super Bowl, he might win another two MVPs. Yeah. Because now, because there is, because he wanted, oh man, you ever wanted something so bad, Joe? You want that bad, oh Joe, you know you want this thing so bad. Yeah. And you're so close. And it seems like as the time goes back, you know, having a conversation with John, he's like, man, he went to the last Super Bowl in 89, and then we didn't go back and like, damn. Because you think about it, he went to three in his first six years. First seven years, he goes to three Super Bowls. He didn't win them. And then there was a stretch, so we don't go in 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95. So that's six years. He had never gone that long without reaching the Super Bowl. So as time starts, you're like, well, damn. Danny Marino goes in the second year, Ocho. He plays 16 years. so for the next 14 years he never goes back and then you like damn am I ever going to get this opportunity again he just needs one he gets one I feel if he gets one he'll win two more MVPs because now he really gets to play free he really gets to play loose I think you know look and he's a phenomenal talent but when you get those early I mean look at Brady Brady played with house money. Mahone boy played with house money. You get those early. What? What you going to say? Mahone boy got three in his first nine years. First eight years as a starter. He's gone to five. Brady, in his first five years, he had three Super Bowls, two MVPs. I'm free. Y'all can't tell me nothing. I just think the thing is that. I just want him to get there. I just want him to get to. I want to see Lamar Jackson on the biggest stage. For the most part, we've always seen our greatest quarterbacks, be it Elway, Marino, Kelly, Favre, Rogers, Brady, Montana, Manning. We've seen our best on that biggest stage. Now, they didn't always win, Ocho, but we've seen them on that stage. Yeah. we got to see Lamar on that stage. Just one time. Just where, hey, like Luther Vandross say, if only for one night. For one night. If only for one night. I got to see that man on the stage. I got to see him. I would love to see, hey, if I don't see him in LA, hell, I go see him in Atlanta. Hey, I might have to go see him in Atlanta. Yeah. He's special. He's special. I want to see him in that big game too, Uncle Ocho. I'm going to see him show up and show out. I mean, think about it, Ocho. We done seen Purdy in the Super Bowl. I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks not nearly as talented as Lamar. He's too talented not to get there at least once. I don't know what's going to happen, but I want to see him get there. And then I'll say, hey, whatever happens after that, he was phenomenal he didn't have his best stuff whatever the case may be but I just need to see him one time in the big dance I see him in the big dance I say oh Joe man hey he got there it didn't go his way but oh well damn it man I want to see the damn Cowboys I don't know what you see hey Joe I'm going to be honest with you it's a good chance the Cowboys can be there boy you know how if you play Madden. Come on. Come on, Ocho. See how you go at. I'm going to tell you. See how you go at. I ain't said nothing about your Bengals. I ain't even got on you. You see how you at? Oh, no. Don't get on us. Why you going to get on us? I'm just saying, if you want to see the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, I mean, just play Madden. There you go. You see how you do it, Joe? You see what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. No disrespect? Yeah. I all disrespect. Yeah. I think it's Declan. Declan. Deaclan? What are the chances? What are you talking about? Doyle. Declan. Declan Doyle. Declan Doyle. So, I guess, hold on. Man. When is the March? well it's got to be free agency so it's got to be April the first one minicamp is OTAs in April because you know with a new system you get three get three okay three minicamps okay okay okay with a new what did you say Ash do we know when it is well the offseason program start in April or is it March damn they start early yeah yeah hey when in draft in May last week in April when did the Ash last week in April where did draft at is young Okay Pittsburgh So Um, but you, did you have a, a, a workout bonus incentive work workout bonuses in your contract? Ocho. Yeah. What was that? So what'd you have to do? Ocho. Make 90% of the workout. Yeah, 13 weeks. I mean, I would make it all up anyway. I mean, you know, honestly, if I didn't have that incentive, I still would have been there anyway to work out with Carson. You know why I didn't come? Because they know I like to work out. See, if they know you like to do something, Mocho, guess what? They don't incentivize it. People that they don't know that you like to work out, they put $100,000, a quarter of a million, $500,000 in their contract. They want to give me $50 a day. They good, huh? Oh, no. Yeah, it was a nice- Yeah, I know. I know. I had teammates that had 150, 250, 500,000. But, Joe- Yeah, mine was 500,000. Man, we can't give him that. He loved to work out. So we just give away money. Right. Yeah, that was fun, bro. But, you know, Mike told him, Mike says, I don't want Shannon here. Shannon cannot get in shape. 84 cannot get in shape doing our thing. like he can get in shape doing his own. But I don't trust y'all like I trust him. Right. So, hey, I was out of there. Hey, y'all let me know when the camps, I come to that camp. You know, we had a three-day camp. And then we had, you know, you have a three-day camp, mini-camp, and then you have a week mini-camp. So you come in, you get, what, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you up out of there Saturday afternoon or whenever you leave. And then you have that week, you come in on a Monday, and you know if everything go good they'll let you off Thursday at noon yeah boom Ocho it's with very very sad with a very very sad heart that I bring this news to you Vikings wide receiver Rondell Moore has died at the age of 25 according to the new Albany police chief today Todd Bailey said Rondell Moore was found deceased with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his garage on his property in New Albany, Indiana. An investigation is underway. Rondell Moore dead of a self-inflicted, what is being reported as a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 25. Man, my condolences, my condolences to the Moore family, man. damn that's sad it is so sad 25 years of age it's been a very difficult the NFL Peer Players Association is devastated by the sudden and tragic passing of Rondell Moore the immense loss is felt deeply across our union and we value his service as a player rep our condolences to the family or with Rondell's family teammate and loved ones during this incredible difficult time in moments like this we're reminded of how much our players carry on and off the field to our members please know that the support is always within reach check on your teammates and prioritize your mental health if you or someone you know is struggling we encourage you to take advantage of many confidential resources available to you through the NFL PA you don't know sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something, you have no earthly idea, none. Everybody's all this, all that, you don't know. I promise you, you don't know. you have no earthly, earthly idea. I can't even begin to fathom the burden that that young man was carrying. And, and my heart breaks for his family, his friends, his loved ones, anyone that knew Rondell more, that cared about Rondell Moore, my heart breaks. 25, 25. Young, life just starting, bro. And he did not, he thought this was his only way. This is the only way that that pain would go away. damn something so hard so heavy that someone would take their own life reportedly you don't know how bad pain is. Because, you know, a lot of times, Ocho, well, I wouldn't do this, I wouldn't do that. Everybody will say what they would or wouldn't do. But until you end that situation, you never know. You don't know what you'll do. People never know. Everybody always says that, huh? They do. That's what I would've did. I would've did this. I would've did X, Y, and Z. No, you wouldn't. Bro. unless you walked a mile in that man's shoes or that woman's shoes, you have no earthly idea. You haven't. And as I sit here and ponder when I got the news tonight that this young man was no longer here, I'm like what was so bad that he thought this was the only way hmm hmm Boy, boy, boy. You don't know. You don't know. and when you think you've gone through something you can't go on and you feel that's your only alternative because a lot of times you don't know i mean because a lot of times don't show you call hey man how you doing man i'm good man you know no are you good are you really good because sometimes you know you just want to get off the phone you don't want to be bothered right right you don't want people in your business. Mm-hmm. And you just like, try to make the conversation in there. But I, I, I, I'm glad I have the people that I have in my life. I'll say that. Yeah. Everybody doesn't have a brother and a sister like I have. And everybody don't have best friends like I have. But boy, Rondell Moore family, I am so, so sorry. And I know words, there's nothing I can say. There's no amount of heartfelt speeches. I know absolutely nothing can ease this pain that you're going through. but what I can say is that I hope is that when you fall on your knees and you ask the man above to give you strength to give you courage and to give you understanding in your most trying time and hopefully as time passes you will have a better understanding. But it's not going to be easy. You're never going to forget this moment. My heartbreak for his family. 25. 25. You think back and you think about what you were doing at 25, Ocho. You was having the time of your life in the NFL. Yeah. You had reached the culmination. Everything that you dreamed about, dreamt about when you was in Liberty City and you and your boys, y'all running around, going to the pool and doing whatever you were doing. Like, man, I'm going to be playing on Sundays one day. And there it is, you're doing it. I guarantee you when he was a kid, he dreamt of playing in the NFL. My brother always says, a dream is a gift that you give to yourself. Mm-hmm. and your dreams should shock you if your dream don't shock you it's not big enough he dreamt of playing in the nfl he didn't dream of having seasoned in the injuries in 24 and 25 but he dreamt of playing in the nfl but something came along and interfered with that it's being reported rondell moore unfortunately passed away at the age of 25. hollywood brown a former teammate of rondell moore in arizona said rondell reached out to him just a few hours before he died you wasn't alone bro i told you i know how you feel bro ain't no way, brother. You just messaged me a few hours ago. After missing the entire 2024 season with a knee injury, he suffered another season in the ACL tear during Minnesota Vikings first preseason game. Jamal Adams tweeted, I'm not jumping to conclusions, but let me say this. Fans and media be quick to label player, injury prone. We don't choose to get hurt. Sometimes ish just happens. Y'all don't see the rehab, the pain, the mental drain it causes. The process can make you lose yourself. This ish is real. No matter how much support you get, you still gotta fight that battle alone. Prayers up for Rondell Moore and his family. He was a baller, no question. You do. See, that's the thing, Ocho. All the support. But what happens when the phone hangs up? You by yourself. Alone in your thoughts. So when the phone calls, when they hang up, and then everybody go home, I'm right back to square one. I'm alone in my own thoughts, thinking. Is this a dream? Is this really my life? Is this really happening? Again? Again? Hmm. You got to take the good with the bad, Ocho. And sometimes it's easy to question the bad. But not one time did you ever question, God, why you bless me so much? Why you let me make it to the NFL? Why you let me get all this money? Why you let me have beautiful, healthy kids? Sometimes we only call on him when things go bad. But it's when the things are at the best. That's when he's carrying you also. But we just don't see it. Rondell Moore, to all his family, friends, and loved one again, the Nightcap family, Ocho and I, and everybody here associated with Nightcap. My condolences. And our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. 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