Summary
Kim Kardashian joins Khloé for an intimate conversation covering personal stories, conspiracy theories, friendship evolution, and dating life. The episode blends personal anecdotes with reflections on family dynamics, legal experiences that shaped Kim's career interests, and current life priorities.
Insights
- Early exposure to high-profile legal cases (OJ trial, mother's murder trial, Jackson family trials) significantly influenced Kim's passion for law and legal advocacy
- Both sisters prioritize their children's needs over dating, with Kim currently single for the longest period and intentionally focused on parenting responsibilities
- Auction collecting represents a deeper interest in historical preservation and cultural significance rather than mere luxury consumption
- Friendship maintenance requires intentional effort and shared life circumstances; many friendships naturally fade without conflict or drama
- Personal manifestation practices and intentional goal-setting are actively used tools for life planning and relationship expectations
Trends
Celebrity interest in historical artifacts and auction culture as investment and preservation of cultural heritageShift toward prioritizing parenting and personal development over romantic relationships among high-profile womenIncreased transparency about mental health, therapy, and emotional processing in celebrity conversationsNostalgia-driven content around Y2K culture and early 2000s celebrity experiencesCelebrity use of manifestation and intentional goal-setting as mainstream personal development practiceReassessment of early career decisions and their long-term impact on life trajectoryGrowing interest in charitable giving and responsible stewardship of acquired historical items
Topics
Conspiracy theories about celebrity familiesLegal system exposure and career influenceParenting and work-life balanceManifestation and goal-setting practicesFriendship lifecycle and maintenanceHistorical artifact collecting and auctionsDating and relationship expectationsPersonal growth and therapyNeverland and Michael Jackson memoriesCelebrity responsibility and public perceptionFamily dynamics and sibling relationshipsChildhood trauma and resilienceLuxury lifestyle and personal habitsSocial media and privacy boundariesCharitable events and Remembrance Day
Companies
Weight Watchers
Sponsor offering weight management programs, GLP-1 medication access, and AI-powered body scanning technology
Ritual
Sponsor providing evidence-based multivitamins and essential nutrients with transparent sourcing and third-party testing
Cartier
Mentioned as the winning bidder for Jackie Kennedy's watch at auction, with Kim redirecting the item to them for muse...
Ralphs
Grocery store chain that Kim expressed interest in visiting and exploring after years of not shopping in traditional ...
People
Kim Kardashian
Co-host discussing personal life, legal interests, parenting, and manifestation practices with her sister Khloé
Khloé Kardashian
Primary host interviewing Kim about personal stories, relationships, and life experiences on her podcast
Kris Jenner
Referenced as family matriarch and subject of conspiracy theories about being a 'mastermind' of the family business
Wesley Snipes
Credited with saving Kim's life by giving her a ride and mentoring her as a teenager in New York
Jackie Kennedy
Subject of Kim's interest in historical artifacts; owned watch that Kim attempted to purchase at auction
Larsa Pippen
Former friend who appeared on Real Housewives of Miami; friendship evolved due to life changes and relocation
Carla DeBello
Former employee and friend who relocated to Dubai, making friendship maintenance more difficult
Brittany Gastonow
Friend who visited for girl time and sleepovers; described as sweet and kind-hearted
TJ Jackson
Kim's ex-boyfriend from age 14; son of Tito Jackson; provided access to Neverland during childhood
Michael Jackson
Historical figure whose jacket, hat, and necklace Kim owns from auctions; uncle of TJ Jackson
Megan Markle
Friend of Kris Jenner; involved in photo controversy at Kris's 70th birthday party regarding Remembrance Day
Kylie Kardashian
Sister who attended Malibu dinner event and stayed until 1:30 AM, showing personal growth in social engagement
North West
Kim's daughter who attends mall outings, has a dog named Uzi, and is learning responsibility through pet care
Tatum
Kim's son described as a Leo who struggles with taking accountability and apologizing
Shai
Kim's child learning responsibility by cleaning up after her dog
Quotes
"I can manifest like a motherfucker"
Kim Kardashian•Dating segment
"He fully, fully fathered me and I have never forgot that"
Kim Kardashian•Wesley Snipes story
"It was just made into something that was so crazy and ridiculous"
Kim Kardashian•Megan Markle photo discussion
"I think it's one of those things is like I was making new friends as I was like starting to be in the business. And then when you start working more and traveling, it's like hard to keep up"
Kim Kardashian•Friendship evolution discussion
"My kids need me. It's really hard when I have to put them to bed every night. I get them up. I take them to school"
Kim Kardashian•Dating and parenting priorities
Full Transcript
Let's talk about some of the crazy conspiracies, the Kardashian curse. Oh, I love a conspiracy. Should we talk about... Well, you didn't hear that conversation? No way. Can you give me such juicy stuff? We have to keep going. Why don't you set the record straight? It was just made into something that was so crazy and ridiculous. You have a manifestation list. I can manifest like a motherfucker. There is 52 things on the list. I think I could take off one or two. Okay, let's pivot a little bit. Where are they now? Talk to me. I purchased Jackie Kennedy's watch. Someone called me and was like, you cannot accept that watch. The watch is cursed. We're going to play a game. When was the last time you went to a grocery store? It's probably been like 15 years. Kimberly? No, well. Wesley Snipes saved my life. And I've never seen him again. Shout out to Wesley Snipes. I hope this message gets to you. Let's talk about some of the crazy conspiracies that they talk about when it comes to us. And you can give your thoughts. How do you feel that they say Kris Jenner is like the mastermind of the world? Like the devil works hard, but Kris Jenner works harder. I think that one's kind of funny. I said the same thing. I like that one. And I also feel like she's so not. No, but that's why I love that. But it's like, if anything, I'm like, okay, Chloe, this is what you're going to do. Chloe, you should do it. No, you are the coach. Mom's just not. This one I know bothers, I think, all of the siblings, the Kardashian curse. Yeah, that one does. I was talking about this actually today. Not so much that, but a crazy story. Everyone knows I'm obsessed with like Jackie Yeoh, JFK, and Marilyn. That love triangle is crazy. I just respect them as a family and like the positions that they took in our history and shaped our world. So I purchased a watch that was Jackie Kennedy's. I bought the watch on auction. Love all of them. And afterwards it was like known because auctions are kind of private. It like became known that it was me. And someone called me and was like, you cannot accept that watch. And I was like, why? And they were like the watches cursed. Oh, come on. And I was like, really? Okay. And I was like, well, what happens? And they were like, the spouse or the husband of whoever, women or like male closest to the person that gets that watch has passed away soon after. Shut up. I mentioned a TA. He was like, oh, we can't take the watch. And I was like, okay. Oh, that's so crazy that you like believed it. And listen, I probably would too. Well, like it went down the line of Jackie getting the watch, JFK had passed, gave it to her. I think Lee, I think her husband passed, gave it to her son. Her son got the watch he passed. Kim. Left it to his wife. His wife gave it to her best friend to keep in her safe. The best friend's husband passed. Shut up. I never received it. I said, please don't send it to my home. And so I said, a watch like this that is that culturally important actually deserves to be with the house of Cartier who like it wouldn't belong to a person. It would belong to the museum or something. To their catalog. And so I just thought, and they were the ones bidding, like we were bidding each other. With you. Yeah. So that's a crazy story. I never received that watch. What is it? Your love of auctions. I'm obsessed. Obsessed. Literally when we're on vacation, first of all, Kim has no downtime. Kim does not know how to turn her mind off. If we have downtime, she wants to go look at every house in the neighborhood that could be for sale. I just love to see finishes. Even if I'm not like looking, I just love to see what's. I'm like, don't you just want to chill and relax? She's like, no. Or she's scouring auctions. I love an auction. Like I. Remember when you and I were bidding against each other for mom one Christmas? We did not know. Yes. And then I think you won. I was like, I give up. I don't even remember. It was so expensive. I'm like, you know what? You're lucky. I love you, mom. And Kim and I were bidding against each other without us knowing. Yeah. And we found out Christmas morning. It's very sex in the city. It's very sex in the city. Yeah. But yes, what is your obsession with auctions? I thought that when, so when I got dad's Bible that he gave to OJ, I thought that you were outbidding me. I thought someone was outbidding me. Who was? I don't know. But it was like we were going for 12 hours straight in Hawaii. Shut up. And once you bid, then it pushes it 30 minutes. Once you do the last bid, it pushes the auction 30 more minutes on certain auction houses. And so 12 hours we were fighting and fighting and fighting and they wouldn't let up. And I'm like, who wants this badly? I need to know who that is. I need to know. I wish they would tell us because I was like, oh my gosh, is this so amazing? Is someone trying to get us this Bible? Like I thought. No. Who else would want this Bible? Right. Why? Why would someone want that and to spend that much money if it wasn't sentimental to them? Yeah. Maybe they'll let us know after this podcast. Please, person, reveal yourselves. I just, I love an auction. I love the energy. I love, I think it's like a piece of history. So you love being like, where is this? Like I have an entire Bob Mackie collection of shares closed from The Sunny and Share Show. The ones where she did this video on flipping her hair. I won every single piece at the last big auction. You know what I have? I have the Britney Spears. Oh yes. Bob Mackie crystal like bikini top with the Dolce and Gabon jeans. And she wore the jeans with the crystal over. I forgot I have that. I need to. Have you told her? No. That's crazy. I, you should tell her. I also wonder how people feel about. We went to a Janet Jackson concert. Kim is wearing the 1990s Janet Jackson. Was that a little ridiculous? No, I think it's amazing. But I wonder if they like are like, I want that shit back. Like I look so good. I did tell TJ when I bought his Uncle Michael's jacket and gave it to North. And I was like, Hey, I have this piece of like a jacket. I, you know what? I bought it in auction that I haven't even like the glove. No. Remember you bought the glove though? Which one? The white glove. You bought it at your old house when North was little. No, I bought the jacket and I bought his hat. Oh, the hat. But I have a necklace of his like an all beaded necklace he used to wear. That I haven't really taken out. I thought it was like a really cool. And what did he say? Gift. I have Elizabeth Taylor's dresses. What did TJ say about it? I mean, he said like that's really cool. Well, like I'm so happy that you have it. You know, like I think certain people, I don't know. Like I don't know how the stuff gets in the hands of the auctions. Speaking of the Jackson. So TJ is the son of Tito Jackson, three brothers, three T shout out to three T. Kim used to date TJ when she was like 14. Yeah, for years. Years. And Kim and because I was a plus one, we've all had the luxury of going to Neverland. It's just a magical place. It's such a magical place. Some of my best memories. Best memories. I had my 14th birthday party. TJ threw me one and we took a party bus. I have pictures from the whole thing. You weren't allowed cameras in Neverland. So there was a photo booth. So we take so many photo booth pics, but I mean, just having a crazy shaving cream fight. All of the golf carts were Disney or like bumping like Michael Jackson music while we were driving. Like, Well, you drive in and there was elephants and monkeys and clothing and giraffes just roaming the property. It's like the movie Jurassic Park, but like with animals. It was so mesmerizing. There was a movie theater. It was just a magical place. I discovered Snickers ice cream bars there and I've never looked back. Never been the same since. Best. It was just magical times. We had like the greatest childhood, the wildest. Yeah. Childhood. Unbelievable. I mean, going from 14 years old, I mean, horrific, but going from his mother's murder trial and like as a kid, having to go into court and be a part of the trial and then like back to back right after, you know, the OJ trial, like all in the same year. And then just like bonding together to like have and then, you know, my boyfriend at the time going through trials with his uncle, it was like back to back to back. Yeah. In court and trials and like as a 14 year old going and like testifying in a court and a murder trial and being there while, you know, supporting my boyfriend at the time, just how emotional and how grown up those experiences were at such a young age, what we were kind of thrown into. So it's interesting that like, you know, there was like three cases, the world's largest cases, two of them. Yeah. Being thrown into before I'm 15 years old, you know, like that's crazy. And that like I think is what really sparked my love of law. I was going to say, do you think subconsciously any of that has shaped you into doing what you passionately are doing now? Yeah. I mean, I think at 14, I'm sitting there watching, you know, my boyfriend and his brothers going through something and seeing all the testimony and figuring out what that is and wanting to be so supportive. So like figuring out what does this mean? Okay, we have to hear like, this person on the stand and this person in state, three of trial and day, 10 of trial and coming for like this, just knowing what the process was and then, you know, seeing dad go through that trial and then going ourselves like Courtney and I went and being a part of that and seeing all of the witnesses and what that was and, you know, being on both sides and seeing how that tears apart families and that was so emotional for our family. And then again, supporting my boyfriend at the time, going through a big trial of his uncles on like such a serious matter and just a lot really deep things. I think that like fully sparked my, I don't know if I've ever thought about it that way, but like I was always super interested in what happens in a courtroom because of those experiences. Every January, there's always something new, a new rule, a new cleanse, a new miracle habit that everyone swears is going to change their life. And then by February, it's gone. 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We'll always have so many memories and so much love there. I watch her on Housewives of Miami. You do. I love- Do you know I've never seen a Housewives? I love Housewives shows. Oh my, that's like crazy. I know. I don't know if it's your vibe, but I love all that stuff. Yeah. Carla DeBello. I actually talked to her like two days ago. So she moved to Dubai. She was working with me and then she moved to Dubai. I love Carla. Brittany Gastonow. Love Brittany. I had kids. Same with Carla. They don't have kids, so it's hard to like maintain a friendship. But like for the last like three years, I've been hanging out with Brittany and I talk to her every so often and I really love her. She's like a really good person. There was someone that I can't remember. I wrote Pussycat Dolls. Do you not remember that? Melody. How did you remember her name like that? Yes. Melody. Yeah. Who was she again? She was a Pussycat Doll, right? Yeah, from the Pussycat Dolls. I was friends with like her and Aubrey O'Day, remember? Yes. Yes. And we'd always hang out and like again, nothing happened. They were such nice girls. Yeah, they were so. We had like a lot of fun and we were like going out. But I think it's one of those things is like I was making new friends as I was like starting to be in the business. And then when you start working more and traveling, it's like hard to keep up, especially if you don't have like a crazy history like our whole lives, like my lifers, you know? And so it was like a quick friendship, but like such a fun time and so much fun. Yeah, I just remember having so much fun with them. Yeah. Oh my gosh, remember Chedney? Yeah. Ross? Yeah. I love Chedney. I love Chedney. Yeah. Chedney was and we had so, that was like we had so much fun with her. Miami trip with Chedney. Yeah. Chedney was the best. Where is Chedney now? So I see Tracy sometimes and so I'm always like, how's Chedney? And she shows me pictures of her kids and her husband. So cute. And like, yeah, I saw Evan last weekend. I love Evan. I see Evan all the time. Yeah. Yeah, Evan's great. I saw him last weekend and always talk about Chedney. Oh my God, I like never have seen Chedney since like 2004. I don't even know. That's great. I love her. Yeah. I wonder why we like didn't. I think the same thing. I think it just fizzled. There was definitely no beef. I don't know. I don't ever remember even a fight. She was so great. What about Todd Cranes? Todd Cranes. I mean, he'll always be family. Yeah. You know, but like. I think he's having babies. I think he's having twins. Twins. Well, so one of my lifers, Ashley Cranes, is Todd's cousin, first cousin. So like I catch up with Todd all the time, like here what he's up to through Ashley. The Todd Cranes is really for the fans. Yeah. That they were Todd Cranes dad was best friends with my dad. So if my dad's no longer here, it's obviously like he was the one making all of the plans and taking us there every weekend and all the play dates and all of that. So like, you know, it's just like harder to stay in touch. Sushi and sake. Sushi and sake, they are here. They're still here. If you want proof of life, I mean, you know this. Yeah. I know where they are. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't post them as much just because I mean, we've had sushi. You're not really like an animal post. I can't never imagine you to be an animal posting person. I just did a campaign with them like a year ago. You did? Yes. I had them in a skin beauty campaign. Yeah. So random. So I have six dogs. That's wild. Yeah. But you know what? What would make someone get four dogs at one time? When mom gave me those three labs, remember? Yeah. That was. And I said, I have a baby that's less than six months old. I'm moving tomorrow into a rental because I'm doing construction. You don't just. I don't remember that. Ampush someone with three dogs and big dogs. Labs are insane. But you don't do that without asking someone. Wait, these Pomeranians are so tiny. That's still a handful. It's a handful, but like it's taught my kids in the last few weeks so much responsibility. North has traveled with Uzi. She named her Uzi. Of course. He's always with her in her room. I do love that Shai cleans up after her dog. I do. She's not great at it, but she does it. She does it. Yes. So. I mean, she's little. Okay. Let's get to the tea. What tea? I want you to spill. There's a few iconic stories that I think the world needs to hear about. One of them I'm going to prompt you is your Wesley Snipes story. Oh my God. Okay. So I am kind of known for having like the craziest stories. I feel like I've lived like a bazillion lives. You have? So when I was a teenager, I went to New York with my friends. Like 17? 17. And they were all like 19, like Sarah Howard, all my friends from like back in the day. They all went to Boston. So they drove up to New York and I went to New York once before with my dad, but never like on the party scene or anything. So we all are at this club called Life. I remember it like it was like the club, the place to be. So we go to, I just want to say, started off with Wesley Snipes, Saved My Life. You know, I don't, and he doesn't know this story. He has no clue who I was. No, I must, I was no. You don't think he knows? Chloe, I don't know. I never thought of it like that. I was a teenager. We didn't have a show. It makes sense. Yeah, yeah. No one knew who we were. That's crazy. I have been dying to run into him to be like, I have to remind you of this story. You literally saved me. That's, you're right. He probably doesn't know. We were at Club Life. So we're at a club and then everyone's like, oh my gosh, let's go back to like our friend's house for a party. And so my friend Sarah Howard, she wrote on my hand her dad's address and was like, if we lose each other, this is the address. Because at this time there's no cell phones. No cell phones. Pay phones only. I don't think I've gotten a cab by myself. I didn't know, I'd never been in New York by myself once with dad when I was 16, but like, that's it. So then she hands me a $20 bill because we were sharing a purse and was like, here's for a cab in case you, like, in case we can't find each other. So I put it like either like right here in like the, my dress strap or something. I don't know. And we like carried on with our night. So we go to this house party and it's like, I don't really know where anyone went at one point and everyone's like, I think it fall in asleep. It was so late because the club's there like at the time it started at like 1am. And so we went to dinner at 11pm. It was like such a different, like felt like a different life. I had no idea. I've never stayed out late, you know? And I wasn't drinking. So it's like, I definitely knew what was going on. So at the end of the night, it's like five o'clock, we're at this house party, nowhere, no one to be found, cannot find anyone, don't have my money, realize my $20 is gone. All I have is this address and I'm like, am I going to go downstairs and just walk out this building or wherever we were and just find a cab and beg them and hopefully get to Sarah's and like, see if she's awake to get more money. Like, how am I going to do this? So I'm walking out and I don't know if Wesley Snipes lived in the building or what, but he was there. Like we were passing each other and I was like, hi, sir. Like, I'm so sorry. But like, do you think I was like, I don't know where you're going. Like, are you going home? Whatever. I'm so sorry to like interrupt your night. But like, do you think you can give me a ride home? It's like early in the morning. So I'm like, do you think you can give me a ride home to this address? And he was like, sure. You know, he's like, but we're going to have to stop. Like for breakfast, I think he was leaving and on his way to breakfast. Actually, he must have been like an early workout kind of guy and going for, I don't know. So I'm just like, go to breakfast. Oh my God. Like I just need to get home. But sure, you're my only ride. I was probably terrified. Right. So we go to breakfast, but he wasn't giving off like any creepy vibes. He wasn't giving off anything. I ran into him and asked him for a ride. Probably thought you were some drunk crazy kid. No, because I wasn't. No, I know you, but like probably he was like, let me feed this person and let's soak her up before she goes home. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? I don't even know if I'll remember this. You know when you're young and think you look so much older, you probably thought you were like passing for 25 and totally he could tell you're a young kid. Let me totally. So then we go to breakfast and it's just like me and him and like I remember we ordered like eggs and pancakes and I was just like sitting there like, all right. You know, and he just starts like schooling me like he's my father and is like, hey, you know, I don't know how old you are, but you're too young to be out this late. You're too young to be at parties if there was a house party there or whatever. And I was like, oh, we went to this club and he's like, no, no, no, you're just, you shouldn't be out at the clubs. You shouldn't be at these things. I'm going to take you home and like I never want to see you out of these things. Until you're old enough. You never have. And I've never seen him again. He saved my life. He schooled the shit out of me, scared me to death and to being at clubs. I'm like, oh, I'll never be at a club again. You know, like, because he told you all these crazy things that could potentially happen. He really fathered you. And how dangerous it was. Yeah. He fully, fully fathered me and I have never forgot that and it was so great. I've been like hoping that like maybe we'd have our past would cross and we'd do a talk show or something on the same circuit and I could just be like, hey, you probably don't remember this. But I was that teenage girl like in New York. What are the chances? That you took to a cafe to like tell me that like my life better be on track. And I'm like, this is my first time at a nightclub. And that's what happens. Yeah. He probably wouldn't have even believed me, you know? Of course. I love that story. Shout out to Wesley Snipes. I hope this message gets to you that you are a lifesaver. Oh, I hope it does too. Right? I hope he hears it. I don't know. Now it's like, it's hard. These people are so judgmental. You know, with this concert, I'm so nervous. In the early Y2K days, it was part of the culture to talk down about women. I knew somewhere deep down that if I listened to all those hateful comments out there in the world, that I would never recover. So I decided to find the light within the darkness. Music saved my life. Do you want to tell the story about how Brittany ended up in bed with us? She is just a doll. She's the nicest. She's like the sweetest, sweetest girl. And so, yeah, her manager, Cade. Shout out to Cade. Has connected us. And she wanted to come over and we hung. And I've met her a few times before. And she's just really sweet and wanted some girl time. It's crazy how that went out of control. That story, it was like the most innocent. What went out of control? No, just like it was everywhere that we were having this crazy sleepover. I'm like, it's just girls being girls. Yeah. Megan, Markle. Oh, the photo. The photo gate. Photo gate from mom's 70s. It was really innocent, which is so crazy. Mom and Megan have been friends for some years now and they have a really sweet relationship. We took a photo. And then I think we were all going through them. We're all communicating about what we're going to post. We're never ones to post without permission. Permission. We are like, it's not who we are. We're very respectful. Yeah, we have the craziest, funnest photos from that night. But we were posting just fun photos. And so. Ignified photos. We were totally, we were told that it was totally cool to post. And then after it was posted, I think they realized it was Remembrance Day. And they didn't want to be seen at a party, even though it's already up. And then taken down. And then I think they realized, this was so silly. And they did baby to baby right before. Well, it's like a charity event. So like that was fine, but maybe not partying and dancing on the dance floor and whatever. So we took them down. Because we were respectful. To respect Remembrance Day. Yes. And then like you just got to laugh at like the situation sometimes and just like lighten it up and be if everyone's taking it the wrong way, like lean in. I was like, we should do a full skims campaign. Take the photo. Even just us, like I'll shoot you at mom, you know, post it and then delete it like 30 minutes later. And then I say, oh, sorry, I didn't have permission to post those photos for the campaign. You should do that. That's what I was like, that would have hit so funny. You should do. Yes. If we if we just made it light and made it right. You know, I think it would have been like received differently. But I hated how that was received for everyone. That's it was made into something. It was just made into something that was so crazy and ridiculous that just didn't have to be. Let's get down and dirty and let's talk about dating. Okay. So you are known, I think, for your manifestations. And you have a manifestation list. I can manifest like a motherfucker. You can fucking manifest. You can. I have a manifest list. I wonder if it would hold read up today, like hold up. You don't update it. No. What was the last time you have? I mean, we read it over New Year's, right? Stop. Yeah, just for fun. And how many bullet points roughly? What would you say? I mean, there's like 65. So I think I can. That was a solid number. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let me see actually. Like I just want to, is it like specific like brunette or are you like I want a good heart or I know you like like white teeth or whatever. Manifest list August 2024 is when it was written. Just give me three so I know what we're working with. Good morals and values. Love. A calm person. Dependable. I don't know if you a calm person. Should I take that off? No. I like having that out there, but I also know you like someone that has a little flavor. Yes, I do. Like you can have a calm demeanor, but you still have to have like, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I think too calm, you're going to be like snooze. Totally. Okay. Well, here's a few takes accountability. I think that's my number one thing. I teach Tatum this every day. Yeah, I literally work really hard teaching my kids that. It's my biggest thing with Tatum. He's such a Leo, he won't say sorry. And I'm like, it's okay. Oh, I need to have a talk with him. He won't say sorry. Like I have to literally drag him say to true, you're sorry. And he's like, never. So yes, taking accountability is a big thing. There's so many other things, but I think they're all, oh wait, but let me tell you, there is 52 things on the list. I think I could take off one or two. And maybe add five. Like I feel like we can really fine tune this. Okay. I feel like that should be a task of ours. Okay. In the last year, have you dated anyone privately? We don't need to say names, just a yes or a no. Honestly, no. Isn't that crazy? You haven't, even though you looked down the whole time you answered me. No, I haven't. Okay. You know I haven't. For the people, it's for the people. I would say if I did. I know you would. This is, and I think I'm right, the longest you've ever been single for. It is. Yeah. How do you feel being in this space? I feel good honestly. And like I just feel like, you know, my kids need me. It's really hard when, you know, I have to put them to bed every night. I get them up. I take them to school. I get them ready. They sleep in my bed. I have a time and I'm okay with that. I thought, you know what I'm going to be studying. I won't have time when I'm done. I'll open myself up. And so I opened myself up, but it's just, I haven't found anyone and that's okay. That's okay. I'm fine. But we're going to tweak your manifestation list. And yeah, what about you? It's a tough world out there for me. It is. It's, you know what, now I feel like I've gone so long. Now it's like so scary to get back in there. It is. Like now I'm like, I feel so safe where I am. Yeah. And I hated how I felt before. Yeah. That I'm like, I don't want to go back there. Yeah. But I can't live like this forever. Yeah. Like I'm afraid that I'm so afraid. Does that make sense? It does make sense. So maybe you need a lot of therapy for that. It's so hard to start things, you know? It is. Like how do I even start and? Well, I think it's just like our group dinners and stuff like that. Maybe have fun, come out with us every hour. Well, even just, I was saying, I'm so proud of myself. This is so stupid. Just for going last night and like being there. I was there for like six hours. Through a little dinner in Malibu. He threw a dinner in Malibu. It was so nice. Just like 12 people. It was really small. We had so much fun. Yeah. And I was like, but I wasn't there. Like how mom was there for like 10 minutes and left, which is fine. She was tired. We had a long day. But I was so proud of myself that like I stayed. Because normally I'm like the first one to dip. Yeah. I was really proud of Kylie. I was so, Kylie had the best time. She stayed at 1.30 in the morning. She stayed after me. She was the first one there. I was shocked at the whole. She was like the first one there and the last to leave. Yeah. That was insane. I was so proud of her. And her, Timmy, they had the best time. The best time. I had so much fun. I had so much fun. I'm exhausted right now. Beat. Beat. Okay. Last thing. We're going to play a game. Okay. When was the last time you? Okay. When was the last time you went to a grocery store? I feel like we went to Air One on our show a couple like six years ago or something, but before that, like maybe 12 years. Kimberly? No, well. Yeah. It's probably been like 15 years. Yeah. I've been begging Ralphs to like just to, I want to roam through. I'll go. I'll go. Can't we just go after this? Yeah. There's a Ralphs right there. Yeah. Like you, wow. Yeah. Went to a mall. I go to the mall all the time. You do. With North. Yes. Like two days ago. We go and get Asaii at berries. Oh my gosh. On a daily. That big go, you're a mall girl. I'm a mall girlie. When was the last time you vacuumed? I actually enjoy vacuuming. I vacuumed. Seeing the lines make me so horny. But I haven't done it a really long time. When was the last time you went to the nail salon? For me, decades. Probably on like Bedford at the Beverly Hills nail design. I've probably done it 15 years ago. Oh, 15. Yeah. I was not kidding. I haven't been to a nail salon in ages. Pumped your own gas. I do that. Oh, I don't like gas stations. That's the one thing I'm really weird about. I do. My kids love them. You know? Like I like a convenience store. I just don't love a gas station. Yeah. Washed your dishes. Oh, all the time. Yeah. People don't realize that. Like I don't know why people don't think, like I wash dishes, we do laundry. Like we're not incompetent human beings. Yeah. But I think they think we have like butlers or something waiting at our feet. Did you're on laundry? Love doing my own laundry. I did it this weekend. Cooked for the kids. Anything breakfast. You do breakfast. I do breakfast. Yeah. We're home. Oh, I love this one. Like last week for the kids. When was the last time you were home for an entire day with no plans? I think one day this, like a couple weeks ago. This Christmas break. And I didn't know what to do with myself. That's the thing. Like cleaned and cleaned and cleaned. Like did the laundry. Can't call me. She's like, I have not purged. You know, like kids collect things. Like when her son had like a bunch of toothpaste or something and she's like, hi. I go there is seven toothbrushes in the drawers. I haven't cleaned out the drawers in so long. But on your one day off, this is what you're choosing to do. It's sick. I think I got like 12 full trash bags of stuff we donated. I love a purge day. Kimberly. Are we done? That was it. Nice. You were in Wonderland for a little bit. And you were amazing. Thank you.