WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp

Return Of The Mosul Orb UAP - And What It Means For Transparency - Guest : Dustin Slaughter

30 min
Jul 1, 202510 months ago
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Summary

Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp discuss the release of previously classified video footage of the "Mosul Orb," a UAP recorded by U.S. military over Iraq in 2016. Investigative journalist Dustin Slaughter obtained the full-motion video through FOIA litigation, establishing a legal precedent for public access to government UAP materials and demonstrating how coordinated FOIA requests could accelerate transparency.

Insights
  • FOIA litigation is a viable and repeatable mechanism for obtaining classified UAP materials from the U.S. government, with potential to be scaled across multiple researchers and journalists
  • Government agencies employ deliberate obfuscation tactics (releasing similar-looking but different materials) when forced to address UAP disclosures, suggesting institutional resistance to transparency
  • The collective weight of multiple pieces of evidence matters more than any single video; establishing legal precedent for access is strategically more valuable than individual footage releases
  • Information bottlenecks exist within intelligence infrastructure (SENTCOM, NACIC, Langley) where UAP materials enter but don't always reach oversight bodies like ODNI
  • Coordinated, targeted FOIA requests with legal support could overwhelm government response capacity and force broader disclosure of UAP-related materials
Trends
Shift from media-driven disclosure to litigation-driven transparency in UAP investigationsGrowing coordination between independent journalists and legal professionals to weaponize FOIA as transparency toolInstitutional resistance to UAP transparency despite congressional mandates and public interestEmergence of decentralized investigative networks (online detectives, citizen analysts) as force multipliers for government material analysisLegal precedent-setting becoming primary strategy for UAP disclosure rather than official government channelsIntelligence community classification creep post-2021, with agencies retroactively classifying previously accessible UAP materialsPro bono legal support becoming available for FOIA litigation in UAP cases, reducing barriers to citizen-led investigationsValidation of early independent reporting through delayed official confirmation, building credibility for non-institutional sources
Topics
FOIA Litigation Strategy for UAP MaterialsU.S. Military UAP Designations and ClassificationIntelligence Community Information BottlenecksGovernment Transparency and Institutional ResistanceMosul Orb Video Analysis and Propulsion CapabilitiesFull-Motion Video Imaging Systems and OpticsCongressional UAP Oversight and ODNI ReportingCoordinated Journalist Networks and Disclosure StrategyNational Air and Space Intelligence Center (NACIC) AnalysisWhistleblower Vetting and Congressional TestimonyMedia Obfuscation Tactics and Sleight of HandLegal Precedent for Public Records AccessCombat Zone UAP DocumentationClassified Briefing Distribution SystemsCitizen-Led Investigative Journalism
Companies
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
Operated the spy plane that captured the Mosul Orb footage over Iraq in 2016
U.S. Air Force
Defendant in FOIA litigation; withheld Mosul Orb video until court order forced release
National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NACIC)
Congressional mandate to analyze UAP videos; analyzed Mosul Orb with sophisticated capabilities
Office of Director of National Intelligence (ODNI)
Published May 2021 preliminary assessment analyzing 144 UAP cases; included Mosul Orb in classified briefing
U.S. Central Command (SENTCOM)
Received and analyzed Mosul Orb footage; represents information bottleneck in UAP material distribution
Joint Base Langley-Eustis
Imagery and signals intelligence experts studied Mosul Orb video for SENTCOM analysis
Department of Energy
Subject of FOIA requests for UAP incursion imagery over Pantex facility
Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP)
Predecessor to AARO; mandated by Congress to analyze UAP materials alongside NACIC
All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)
Current government UAP office; criticized for lack of transparency and releasing misleading materials
UAP Register
Independent investigative journalism outlet that obtained Mosul Orb video through FOIA litigation
People
Dustin Slaughter
Obtained Mosul Orb full-motion video through FOIA litigation; established legal precedent for UAP material access
Jeremy Corbell
Co-host; originally reported Mosul Orb still image; coordinating targeted FOIA strategy with Slaughter
George Knapp
Co-host; reported on Mosul Orb; planning vacation while continuing UAP investigation coordination
Sean Kirkpatrick
Released misleading material similar to Mosul Orb; criticized for institutional resistance to transparency
David Grush
Whistleblower; Corbell planning to bring him forward for congressional testimony before position ends
Chris Sharp
Reported on Mosul Orb imagery release; documented expert analysis and ODNI preliminary assessment inclusion
Jay Stratton
Referenced as needing awareness of information bottlenecks where UAP materials disappear in intelligence system
Representative Burch
Referenced as advocate for transparency; uses phrase 'over the target' regarding UAP investigations
Quotes
"If you've been right before and you're consistent and you actually are trustworthy, then you're worthy of trust."
Jeremy CorbellEarly episode
"The Freedom of Information Act is fundamentally broken, unfortunately. And it's a very, very common practice among journalists in other areas of news gathering where you have to take the government to court."
Dustin SlaughterMid-episode
"No one piece of footage is ever going to do it, but the collective weight is a preposterous preponderance of evidence."
Jeremy CorbellEarly episode
"They always do this—they released stuff that looks like it but isn't. That is sleight of hand."
Jeremy CorbellMid-episode
"He's not out there getting in loud fights and boasting about this. He just keeps his nose to the ball, does the hard work and produces results."
George KnappLate episode
Full Transcript
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You're about to learn what it takes to make another historic move, which is to obtain footage from the United States government through litigation and years of dogged tenacious effort. A video that the UAP Register obtained through FOIA litigation, which is Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, essentially. This is Weaponized. I'm George Knapp, a boiling here in the Mojave, Jeremy Corbell, my friend and colleague. How you doing? I'm good, man. How you doing? Good. I mean, today we travel back through the mists of time to a bygone era known officially as the days of yore. It was a simpler time, kinder, gentler. No, it wasn't. It was just as messed up as it is today. Maybe even a little less miserable. I am referring, of course, to the very first episode of Weaponized, wherein we vowed to bring forth government vetted images of what they, not us, what they, the U.S. military and the intelligence community refer to as UAP. As we said at the time, the material is hard to acquire. We do our best to confirm the stuff really does come from government servers and to the best of their abilities, agencies and experts at those agencies do consider the images that we would come to release over many months as genuine unknowns. In other words, in their opinion, UAPs, not ours, not our opinion. The very first image we uncorked in that very first episode of Weaponized was something called the Mosul Orb. It's a freeze frame taken from a brief video recorded on a spy platform, an intelligence platform. There was a new development, by the way, a new wrinkle, a new material as of today. Jeremy, why was that image worth releasing in the first place? Yeah, so, you know, it's really interesting that we launched Weaponized literally six months after Arrow was put into place. Part of that was because we just wanted to have fun together and be able to report unhindered in any way on visual assets and things that we have acquired. But really it was also a protective place in my mind, which is that if there's going to be a disinformation campaign, we're going to put out information and see if they'll do the right thing. So why it's important is like, so six months after Arrow begins, we launch Weaponized. That was in January 23rd, 2023. So our first episode, we tell what Weaponized is going to be, but we offer for the first time ever, and it was and remains the first time ever is US military filmed UAP designated by our military from an active combat zone. And that was the difference. It was from an active combat zone. That's what we call the Mosul Orb. So we told everybody in the first episode that the Mosul Orb was filmed with full motion video. We had explained to people what that means, why it's in color. It was filmed 16th of April, 2016 over Mosul, Iraq. And the problem was, or not the problem, but it protects sources, especially if they don't protect themselves is what you've always taught me, George. We could release a still image, but I think it was more risky to go farther than that. So a lot of people didn't believe us. And if you remember, George, we challenged Arrow to do the right thing and to release the video to the public. They didn't. Instead, they released something that looked similar. And this is kind of the sleight of hand thing that they do a lot of the time. So they never released it to the American public. And I never thought the American public was ever going to be able to see it. It took a real act of dedication and courage to kind of get that out. But just to summarize this, I hope that people look back at our original reporting, George, because we were accurate and we told people we were. But maybe they were learning to trust us. But if you look now at what we're going to learn today, you're going to see that we were 100% accurate and that this was not some lens flare. This was not some pothole in the street. This was not some raindrop on the lens of a CIA spy plane retrofitted camera. I mean, are you kidding me? But you still have to deal with that stuff unless you can back it up. And I think today, because of the tenacity of a good friend of ours and an excellent investigative journalist, you're about to learn what it takes to make another historic move, which is to obtain footage from the United States government through litigation and years of dogged tenacious effort to get that. So I'd love, George, let's introduce a friend of ours. Yeah. I would just say this before we bring him in. You know, what we're going to see is pretty cool today. Nobody's the public has not seen it. It's very interesting. I remember the debunker people were pissed at us because we weren't releasing the four second video because they said that would allow us to for sure debunk it. We could definitely have enough info to debunk it. Well, you're about to get it. I suspect they will still do the same thing they've been doing. It's a raindrop on the lens. It's a pothole in the road, in Mosul. All kinds of really wacky theories that really don't hold up as we're about to see. But this guy who's been our guest and been our friend, he helped us before. We both had an interest in UFO intrusions at the Pantex facility, and he dug in and got some really good information. Dustin Slaughter runs something called the UAP Register. It's not flashy. It's just rock solid investigative journalism. He comes up with great stories and he's really picked up a doozy today because this video by itself that we're about to see is important. But man, the implications of what Dustin has done is so much bigger for this topic. Would you agree, Jeremy? Yeah, big time. As you and I have always said, is that no one piece of footage is ever going to do it, but the collective weight is a preposterous preponderance of evidence. So even this is bigger than a video. And we're here about that. We're about to talk about that. Why this is so big? Why this is so important? So really excited because I think now if people look at the history, they're going to trust our reporting because you know what? If you've been right before and you're consistent and you actually are trustworthy, then you're worthy of trust. So let's bring in a friend. I'll give you a little quick background in that Dustin Slaughter, you've seen him on UFO Revolution because during that filming on the Tubi show that they made, I kind of like call an emergency, calling friends like, what do we do? What do we do? He's been unweaponized when we, you know, he also obtained some images from our Department of Energy, which is wild of an incursion over Pantex. But when I was calling him in the show, we were working more on whistleblowers and what they've said to Arrow, but Arrow doesn't report on, but Dustin will go in and try to get that information to validate the claims of the whistleblowers because Arrow didn't even try. They literally told one of the witnesses, oh, you should go to the National Archives. There's some great stuff there, basically blowing them off. Dustin didn't take that. He went for it with specifics. Now it might take years to get, but look at that patience, how it pays off. So Dustin Slaughter, thank you so much for joining us. I am excited to hear what happened. You sent me a video, you were asking, is this what I think it is essentially? And I'm like, holy shit, close your phone, don't say anything, don't tell anybody, just wait. That is the video. Tell me what happened in your own words. Oh my gosh. Well, it's good to be back on guys. Thanks for having me. So essentially what we have here is a video that the UAP Register obtained through FOIA litigation, which is Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, essentially. That I originally filed the original FOIA was filed in 2023. And then the lawsuit, after Stonewalling by the Air Force and the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, after that Stonewalling, I filed the lawsuit in 2024 with a couple of great attorneys that I work with. Do they do pro bono for you? Is this something they're interested in? As a matter of fact, they do have a pretty open mind when it comes to this stuff, but the added benefit is that they've been doing FOIA litigation for many, many years. So I'm in very good hands. I do have to, there are some incidental costs that I have to pay, but essentially they are doing it pro bono. So when was the hearing? Did they have an actual hearing on it and then judge issues are ruling or what was it? No, with FOIA litigation, you almost never have a hearing. It's basically a lot of back and forth between, the judge will say, okay, the agency has to either produce or say that they don't have these records by a certain date and then various dates keep going back and forth and it's a very drawn out process. So what was the date when you found out you're going to get it and when did it actually arrive? It kind of arrived out of the blue. My attorney and I got an email from the Justice Department lawyer who is representing the Air Force in the case and he just sort of attached this video and sent it to us and he goes, oh, by the way, here's this video that they found through, and here it is. And I looked at it and I was like, oh, wow, okay, I wasn't expecting that at all. So, all right. So do your lawyers think this is sort of a precedent that would allow other like-minded researchers to gain access using the same process that you did? Yes. And I do as well. And here's why, because the Freedom of Information Act is fundamentally broken, unfortunately. And it's a very, very common practice among journalists in other areas of news gathering, not just UAT, obviously, but other areas of news gathering where you have to take the government to court and you have to pry it out of their hands, unfortunately. So. Jeremy. Yeah, so, you know, I want for the benefit of our audience, I have some big feelings and opinions on Dustin, what you've achieved and why it sets precedent and why if we get thousands of Dustin Slaughter's or if we get people that can more specifically ask for things, which I'm very happy to help with, that we're going to flood the zone and they're going to have to respond. They've over classified things after George's and my reporting, they decided all UAP on some level, they're going to clamp down on. But if we had people knowing that it works and even everybody's asking for money in the UFO world for like lawyers and shit, they got all these like disclosure fund stuff, really cool. Glad they do it. Damn, this would be great money spent. And I bet there's a lot of lawyers that would do it for free. So if we had, let's say a thousand people doing what you're doing, but even more specifically, that would be something I would be interested in helping to promote because we would get a lot of, you know, traction. But I want to remind and really take people back Dustin, just so everybody understands like what is the Mosul orb? And I know it's real basic for some of our listeners, but I think it's important. You know, this was a still image from a video. George and I reported that and we were not able to go any further than that. But the words that we gave, we were able and if people paid attention, our military not only dubbed this a UAP and it looks like a, you know, silver spear, by the way, nothing to do with what I believe to be a complete nonsense story in the media right now about those other spheres that are going on where they find them. Yeah, all that. I'm going to say horseshit because, because of my position, but everybody can have a different opinion than mine. You're probably right. But anyway, this is totally different. This is a CIA plane that is flying over a terrorist compound. They were targeting the compound and then they had a passive capture. You see it in color because it's full motion video, which is a really cool layered system of optics on a really cool camera system. We reported camera system. We reported not only that it was a CIA asset plane that was doing it, George, but we also, and I think people really miss this because why would they care? The initial analysis hub is something that we talked about. And why is that important? It's important because when Dustin called me, he says, I thought you said Mosul or was in Mosul, but I got this from Southern command. And I was like, Oh, okay. I think I know what's going on in our reporting, George. We told people the flow of acquisition and analysis. And we describe it perfectly in our, I went back and looked at our original reporting, like, we got that one, right? And then it gets shared to other systems and shared and analyzed in certain UAP study groups within government and in intelligence agencies will pull from it. This video is unresolved. It is currently as of this morning, I can report designated UAP by our government. And that's not only the fact that Dustin got it under that search term, but I'm telling you today it is still designated UAP, meaning they cannot describe or explain the apparent propulsion capability without dissent, what it was even doing there. And George, now that we have the video, I think that the, you call them online detectives will be able to tell us, you know, what size is it? I am so interested to figure out what size. I know it's not real close to the lens of the camera because I have talked and researched years ago with the people that actually work with these camera systems and fabricate, meaning make them, but I want to see, I want to see what the detectives think. So that's what the Mosul orb is. It was the first and that's so cool because it was a combat zone, but it is still and relevant today. And even your pal George, on May 1st, 2020, there was a classified briefing that was generated about UAP through the office of Naval Intelligence and a discreet. Yeah. Your friend included this as one of the, you know, examples on the J-Wix and Sipronet and interlink systems as UAP. So maybe Jerry can talk more openly about it now that it's Dustin was able to achieve a public release of the video. 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Terms apply see tescomobile.com slash why Tesco Mobile. You know, that's pretty cool. I would be interested if those online detectives can tell us if both the orb and the spy plane are moving or if the spy plane is going past the orb and it's stationary. Maybe somebody can figure that out who knows more about this stuff than I do but or either us, do either of you have an input on that? Yeah, from our original investigations I was going through our notes and there's a lot of opinions on it within the intelligence community but they have the actual numbers that are like moving in the video and that is not public yet because Dustin what they did and they always do this is they scrubbed all of the pertinent data in the video so it's going to be difficult because you can look at the image we released George because we released an image with all the numeric information but because you don't see it moving it's very difficult. However, because it's only a four second video that still image from the middle of that video with the numeric values. Yeah, I think people are going to be able to figure out maybe relative size but at least it's because it's short right. It's not like a 20 minute video where you got a screen capture of all the numbers but the government always does that they somehow scrub that data which is not sensitive other than maybe the location that was a big debate before we released it. So I think we're going to have some success but George I think more importantly more than anything and Dustin too and Dustin thank you. Thank you for being tenacious. I never even thought you would ever get anything from this and I'm an optimist and this is just the first thing you're still in litigation meaning you could get a treasure trove. Don't go after the guy of men in black but he could get a treasure trove of information. So last thing about it I think that's important George is you know this is kind of like an icon of what can happen. If journalists go use American law they fight for it. There's no reason the public shouldn't have seen this. It was sleight of hand that Dr. Kirkpatrick released something that looked like Mos Orb but wasn't Mos Orb and they always do that George when we released stuff they released stuff that looks like it but isn't and that is sleight of hand. The new you know kind of ownership and directorship of Arrow I hear they're nice guys but it's like somebody telling you they love you. Okay action is key here so let's see if Arrow will be more transparent now that they see the journalists got them by the balls. Dustin did you request other specific videos? So this was not yeah this was not a this is kind of like a blanket request for videos. I wasn't going after anything specific and so right now the litigation does remain open and we are attempting to pry other videos loose. So Jeremy I wonder if that is the way to go is to target a specific image or video in FOIA requests that are going to go to court as opposed to how Dustin got this with a larger open kind of request. So I have a battle plan and people should put on their UFO battle helmets because I know exactly what to do here and yes and I know it's legal for me to do which is identify very specific file names on very specific types of servers and so Dustin and I will be working together but I think that the larger I think you might agree Dustin now that you've set legal precedent I think if we're more targeted and we get a lot of people who can do proper FOIA requests no one's been as successful as you with FOIA requests nobody you're the first in history to get something like this Dustin but I think it can be repeated by people who are actually interested in the truth and it's going to be public and so I think that we have a battle plan George I think that we're going to get an army of people to work on this as well as lawyers and I don't think it's going to require a new foundation to fund for it I think people are going to give their time. I recall that our colleague Chris Sharp wrote a piece in the Daily Mail when the when the image was first released and it was kind of cool because he had a couple of interesting things in there that we also reported one saying that this video was sent to joint base Langley in Virginia where imagery and electronic signals intelligence experts studied it for the US central command SENTCOM kind of ironic that it went to Langley because you know a few years later Langley itself was swarmed with unknowns for 17 nights in a row some described as as drones but they were definitely unidentified also Chris Sharp had reported despite being analyzed and studied by experts for years the incident remains unexplained as you noted a couple of minutes ago Jeremy and then Daily Mail revealed that that case formed part of the ODNI the office of director national intelligence preliminary assessment of UFOs the report they came out in May of 2021 in which you'll recall they analyzed 144 cases and found an explanation for only one of them and of course that was a golden era back before Sean Kirkpatrick came in hijacked the whole thing Dustin are you encouraged that you're going to get more goodies and are you writing about it in the UAP register I am cautiously optimistic we'll have to see you know it's definitely been an uphill battle but I do also want to point out going back to what you guys just talked about regarding Langley and how they analyzed this video correct is that correct okay so what happened when we get there but go but it's interesting because this lawsuit or this this FOIA request originally targeted the National Air and Space Intelligence Center which was mandated by Congress early on during this this the sea change in you know congressional interest and in the topic and NACIC National Air and Space Intelligence Center was mandated by Congress along with Aero's predecessor or yeah Aero's predecessor to analyze UAP videos which means that not only did this video go through Langley it also went through NACIC and NACIC I dare say is probably has much more sophisticated analysis you know abilities or capabilities than than pretty much any other entity in the United States so and this is wasted right Patterson that's correct stories stories right Patterson yeah I think I have a memory of or two of UFO related material related to right Patterson so that's a good place for it great indeed George and I have if people have listened to weaponize we have identified a bottleneck of information where things go into the black hole we've been vocal and verbal about it that's why we originally reported that flow of information you know using sent com as an example because not everything even makes it to sent com and central command so if people were listening they're going to understand that bottleneck and how things disappear and people like Jay Stratton it would be good when he was in official role to know where information goes away before it gets to them and I think Dustin you're over the target as our friend representative Bersh it would say with NACIC so let's get specific we'll work together we will spread that information out to others so they can also fight for the same stuff so we flood the zone and I believe that we're going to be very successful given a year or two years yeah I hope people will I look forward to reading your story whatever you write this week Dustin at Dustin Slaughter on X you can follow him the UAP registers on substack.com anywhere else people should look for your stuff now that should do it great job great work very much thank you great job and the moment that people are seeing this on weaponized Dustin has published just a minute before his full write-up of his process so everybody should go over there and learn how to do this moving forward so if you go to Dustin's spot right when he saw the video here one minute before he's published the video everything that you're seeing here with full description go to Dustin's thing follow him thanks so much Dustin thanks guys I appreciate it teamwork keep us in the loop thanks we'll do you too thanks I like Dustin you know he's he's not out there getting in loud fights and boasting about this or telling everybody else what to think he just keeps his nose to his eye on the on the ball he does the hard work and produces results we need more people like that less loud voices yeah he does very clean reporting and that's why if you look at our first weaponized report on the Mosul orb it's it's just the facts man it's just the facts you know and that is reporting now we can always give opinions and whatnot but Dustin is very much like that and so he's somebody that has made an achievement that should set an example for others and it's so cool to have other journalists that are really good at their job that we get to work with George um so coming up yeah you know uh it's the summertime my wife has reminded me I haven't had a vacation in several years I'm not actually going to take a vacation I just want to huddle at home and turn off the phone and ignore email for a while for a couple of weeks so I'm going to take some time off please don't think you fired me or I'm dead or something like that I I'm going to take a couple of weeks off when we come back man there's some really good stuff come really good stuff yeah we've made a decision you saw a result of that um decision when you saw the Air Force designated UAP disc navigating through clouds so George and I made a decision to do our best to put our best work out there and we've consulted with legal scholars and federal lawyers and you know we're going to do it we're going to do the best we can for everybody that is interested in knowing the truth whatever it is about this topic again no one video or no one thing or no one document no one interview that's not the story but George I do know too that we have promised that we're going to bring whistleblowers forward and I talk about firsthand and I defined what firsthand was online so everybody knew now I do have hope George while you're kind of on vacation right although I'm going to try to pull you into to a couple of things that month but um we're going to be documenting more so that Congress can do the right thing and put forward who the public wants to hear from I am fighting that battle there's not like resistance it's logistics but I you know vetting logistics when your own government bets whistleblowers it's easier but I really believe we're going to get there I'm hoping before like David Grush leaves his position where he's consulting with government and I do believe we're going to get there so I'm optimistic George I'm not always right but I'm always optimistic but I just think that come heller high water we're going to hear from direct firsthand whistleblowers and if Congress doesn't do it you'll hear from them first here on weaponized I know exactly one of those people you're talking about that we've talked to for a couple of years and boy has he got a great story to tell oh we've we've recorded already yeah yeah but there's multiple and you know that but nice to be quite all right all right later see you soon