Untraditionally Lala

Leaked Nudes, Burnout and Bravo Chaos

39 min
Apr 29, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

Lala Kent discusses personal struggles with burnout, identity crisis in her 30s, and caregiving responsibilities while her mother recovers from hip surgery. The episode covers Bravo reality TV drama including Kenya Moore's salon eviction, leaked Summer House reunion audio, and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills relationship fallout, alongside pop culture news about Drake's album release.

Insights
  • Caregiving responsibilities create unexpected emotional labor and loss of autonomy, triggering anxiety and identity questioning regardless of financial resources
  • 30s represent a paradoxical life stage combining major accomplishments with existential uncertainty about purpose and identity, distinct from grief experienced in 20s
  • Reality TV production creates false safety spaces where cast members share vulnerably, but breach of confidentiality through leaked content changes industry protocols permanently
  • Burnout manifests as social withdrawal and decision fatigue even when opportunities are objectively desirable, suggesting systemic exhaustion rather than preference
  • Accountability in business relationships requires pre-negotiation of investment terms; unilateral improvements without landlord approval create legal liability
Trends
Increasing mental health awareness among high-net-worth individuals regarding burnout and identity crisis in 30s demographicReality TV production security tightening with phone confiscation policies following reunion audio leaksDivorce and separation narratives dominating premium cable reality content, shifting from aspirational to survival-focused storytellingInfluencer hospitality partnerships becoming standard content creation strategy for lifestyle brandsGenerational shift in attitudes toward work-life balance and social obligation among millennial entrepreneursIncreased scrutiny of landlord-tenant agreements in small business contexts following high-profile disputesCelebrity-driven experiential marketing (Drake's ice album release) generating organic social media engagementCustody and separation anxiety becoming central narrative drivers in reality television
Topics
Burnout and mental health in high-achieving womenIdentity crisis and career reassessment in 30sCaregiving burden and family responsibilityReality TV production ethics and confidentialityBravo franchise drama and cast dynamicsDivorce and separation in high-net-worth relationshipsSmall business landlord-tenant disputesInfluencer marketing and brand partnershipsSocial anxiety and social obligationParenting and motherhood identityKarma and personal accountabilityReal estate investment and compound livingCelebrity album marketing campaignsGlam team and production crew dynamicsLegal implications of leaked confidential content
Companies
Bravo
Primary subject of discussion regarding reality TV production, leaked reunion audio, cast management, and industry pr...
iHeartMedia
Podcast network distributing the Untraditionally Lala show
EasyJet
Travel sponsor offering package holidays and flight deals
Gigaclear
Broadband internet service provider for rural UK areas
Short Stories Hotel
West Hollywood hospitality venue hosting influencer events and menu collaborations
Waymo
Autonomous vehicle service mentioned as alternative to traditional rideshare
Bista Village
Retail brand offering seasonal sales and wardrobe refresh promotions
People
Lala Kent
Host discussing personal burnout, caregiving, and reality TV industry insights from decade-long career
Amber Childers
Co-host providing perspective on 30s identity crisis, caregiving support, and reality TV dynamics
Kenya Moore
Discussed for salon eviction case involving $90K investment dispute with landlord
Andy Cohen
Mentioned regarding Summer House reunion investigation and leaked audio case resolution
Kyle Richards
Discussed regarding divorce impact and emotional toll on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
Erika Jayne
Analyzed for her response to friend's marital crisis and emotional vulnerability at reunion
Dorit Kemsley
Discussed for her behavior during separation and custody issues affecting Real Housewives dynamics
Mauricio Umansky
Mentioned regarding his post-separation activities and impact on Kyle Richards' emotional state
Drake
Discussed for innovative album release marketing campaign using ice sculpture and cash prize
Elon Musk
Referenced for real estate compound strategy with multiple mini-mansions for children
Quotes
"I have never given more fucks in my life than in my 30s. I have never felt more lost, confused, grateful, out of sorts."
Lala Kent~20:00
"My 30s have been filled with my biggest accomplishments, but also it has been my 30s have been the hardest time of my life."
Lala Kent~18:00
"When you step onto that set, it is a safe space. You are spilling your heart and soul."
Lala Kent~85:00
"The punishment is not fitting the crime in my book. I don't think it was warranted to leak those photos."
Lala Kent~75:00
"I cannot imagine being in a relationship for that many years and being so head over heels and then it just slipped through your fingers."
Lala Kent~110:00
Full Transcript
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We, hey, hey, hey, I'm what's happening. I'm in the funkiest place. I've been in quite some time. Like brutal anxiety keeping me up all night. And can I tell you, I think it's attributed to a lot of different things, but the biggest one is I got my boobs done. I have not been, this is the first week where I can actually fall back into normal routine. Like waking up and working out and doing the whole bit. And right as that happens, Lisa goes in for hip surgery. So it's just very hospitally at our house right now. I'm sick of taking care of human beings. It's had enough. I know. I could have a nurse to my resume, I think. Well, yeah, between myself and mom, it's just been like very intense. And let me put it this way, it hasn't been like hard. You guys have been self-sufficient, but like you can't lift, you can't do a lot of things. So it's like when, it's just been weird around the house. It has been weird around the house and just like a lot of meds to keep track of. And the thing about the thought of like having surgery, I'm definitely a homebody. I do not like to leave the house. You could, I got invited over the weekend to the Abbey. And it was like, we're going to send you a car and Madonna is going to do a poppin and perform her new songs. I was exhausted. I couldn't make it. They were like, she's going to go on at 1130. I was like, no, no, no. A.M.? I'll be there. They're like, no, P.M. I'm like, okay, so probably between. Let me tell a little story though. What? So I'm in the kitchen. Amber is staying at the house. And the girls are in the kitchen just like making food. I'm just hanging out and Amber looks at Lauren at La La. I don't know how, whatever you guys want to call her. And she goes, can I be honest? I don't know if I'll be able to go tomorrow night. I don't think I'll be able to make it. Lauren, La La looks at her and goes, I was just thinking that. They're talking about how tired they are, how they can't make it out. It is eight fucking 30. Oh, I was exhausted. I was beyond exhausted. So how amazing is the universe though? That I get a text because I have so satida with a nanny. Text me literally within the conversation of this happening. And I look at Amber and I go, my nanny just failed. She can't come. She can't come. And I could have reached out to someone else and had my mom not been, you know, In the same boat as Sosa and needing care. I probably would have, I would have figured it out because I was like, I cannot at the age of 35 be this big of a square. No, you can't. The amount of things that I don't go to that are like really cool. Because I'm like, nothing sounds cooler than watching right now your friends and neighbors. Oh, way better with like four magnesium. Like that sounds awesome to me. We might need to look in the mirror and change a couple things. I think so too. Because I was in the same boat every time I have plans. I wake up so excited for them. And then five o'clock comes around. I'm like, how do I get out of this? How do I get out of this? So I think that that's the reason why I'm in my funk is it's just a lot of it. It's one thing to be like, I'm going to stay home. This is what I was saying about being a homebody. I'm going to stay home this weekend and just relax. It's quite another when someone tells you like, you have to stay home. You have no choice. And I also think it's thrown me through a loop like the wheelchair in the house. There's a wheelchair. There's multiple walkers. There's like a toilet seat. A toilet seat that literally when you're sitting on it, you can touch the ceiling. To elevate her. Yeah, it's really, yeah. She wants it out. She does want it off. She wants it off. Mom does. Yeah. I've heard it a couple of times now. Here's the thing. She's been crushing it. No, she has. It just feels in the house. Possibly. Like you went through yours now hers. It's like, it doesn't feel like a home right now. It just feels very. Caretaker. Like, yeah. And so the reason why mom is laid up like that is as you guys know, she had her hip replaced, which I think is going to be a game changer. Everyone I've talked to who's had their hip done, hips done has said like it completely changed me as a human. Thank God that Amber came into town. She texted me. Mom had surgery on what day? Wednesday. Wednesday. They kept her overnight. So we picked her up Thursday. Friday morning. I get the call from Amber. She's like, I'm at the airport right now. I was like, Oh my God, it's Friday. You're coming. And she was like, Yeah, I don't know where I'm going to stay yet. I was like, what the fuck do you mean? Yeah, you're you will immediately drive yourself to this house because I need your energy. We laid in bed all night and just like laughed, talked shit, talked about our fears in life. And also spoke about like my 30s have been filled with my biggest accomplishments, but also it has been my 30s have been the hardest time of my life. The shit that I have had to face. And by the way, I lost my dad at 28. I think the difference with my dad is, and this is just from my perspective, I know that your situation is different. But different comparisons like lose like, yeah, the 30s have been your hardest and like you lost your dad in your 20s, but like I'm losing. And I guess I'm just speaking for me. Maybe you'll feel it too. But like, that was hard. But like now I'm trying to find who I am through this in my 30s. Yeah. And I don't know who I am, what I really love. You know what I'm really passionate about. And like that's what is really hard about my 30s is like, what do, who am I? What am I loving? What do I want to do forever? I do not think you're alone in that. And there it was like back in the day, it was like your 20s are like your most iconic years. And then everyone was like, no, when you hit 30, that's when you really know who you are and become your own person and you really don't give a fuck. I'm telling you, I have never given more fucks in my life than in my 30s. I have never felt more lost, confused, grateful, out of sorts where like, I was talking to mom and she was, I'm not giving her the narcotics by the way, because she does not heal them well. She does not do all the well. I just like plain and simple pain meds. But she was like attempting to try and talk me out of like these feelings that I've been having for years, years. They won't fucking end. I'm like, when will the day come where I do not have to think about these things anymore? Because I too, I'm looking at like my career path and what I once wanted and what's, what once fueled my soul. That has changed drastically. People who used to fill my cup, I'm like, I don't think you fit in my life anymore. And it could very well be a me thing. It probably is a me thing. But I was talking with Amber about this and she was like, I have not enjoyed my 30s in any sense of the word enjoy. And I'm like, same. And then I feel guilty saying that because you guys know I'm big into the universe. I'm not going to fucking punish me because in this exact moment, I'm not looking at all of the things that I did accomplish. You know, became a mom became the owner of two homes. Like big things that are really amazing. A lot of mothers who are still in your boat. Like, yes, those are those are amazing accomplishments. But, you know, and I'm not speaking for all moms, but I know a couple who love being a mom, but they just don't want their full identity to be a mother. They want to do other things and they struggle with those things. It's called fucking life. And it's just hard. I don't know what I want. No, I know people who are 40s in the program friend of Bill who don't know what they want 50 60. And like, that's where I'm like, you know what? I feel better about not knowing because I don't think I'll ever know looking around. And that hearing other people's stories. It's like, they don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm not supposed to know. Maybe I'm supposed to just do what's in front of me and something will lay out. You know, it's just you start to look in the in the broads, you know, broad scheme of things. And you're like, damn, is my whole life going to be just a fucking brick wall that I'm hitting. But it gets a little further every day. But I feel like I'm just getting I'm just hitting a brick wall. Yeah. You know, and that's just I feel like everybody goes through that and every, you know, I don't know what it is, but something's in the air. Something is in the air because everybody has been feeling this way the past like past week. And but I go through it probably every other month of just replaying in my mind the shit that I should have done differently. Wish I wouldn't have met this person. Wish it's just a never ending spiral of maybe and you know, I'm trying to get off the unisom so I can't fucking sleep for shit on top of Sosa has probably said mommy 500,000 times in the past 48 hours. No, it's really cute. But what she does when my mother can't do anything, you guys, she follows me around and all she's mommy mommy. The greatest sound on the planet, by the way, it makes me so happy. But it is as it does after I've heard it like 100 times. Yeah, I like you hold on. What can I do? Why do you need me? Mommy, mommy, hold me, hold me, mommy, hold me. I don't want to sound like a dick when I say that because it truly is the most incredible sound. No, but my frustration on it was like she's just following you around yelling mommy. And then when you ask her what she wants, there's nothing you just hold her and you're like, what do you need? Nothing. Then she's in your arms. Mommy, mommy, mommy. I'm like, what the hell is going on with this kid? Oh, no, I just want to rush home and hear her say it. I'm like, I'm so comforted. No, no, no, you're away and you're like, damn, I kind of miss it. Yeah, she's very needy for mama right now. But no, she really has. But like we said, I think she's going through that because you couldn't hold her for God knows how many weeks. Yeah, now she's got the jeech who was holding her and now jeech can't hold her either. She loves the jeech's walker though. Anyway, moving on. I'm going to shake this off. I can feel it happening already. I think the weekend fucked me up. No, the weekend. Yeah, I hope you. Yeah, just a bit of, I don't know how to say it to you, but now you know how I felt like I know you were self-sufficient and you could do things, but you were, I couldn't go anywhere because if you needed something. So now I've been home with you. Now I'm home with the old bag and I'm about to lose my goddamn mind. Well, you went out this weekend. I've never watched more basketball. In one sitting. I mean, it was back to back start to finish basketball games for playoffs. It was fucking that part. I did have a heyday. I'm like, these games are saving my soul right now. No, it was the only thing that kept me above water and a lot of the teams at some point and it usually was in the third quarter started looking like the basketball players on space jam, the actual space jam. You guys not LeBron James. Michael fucking Jordan. Where the aliens from moron mountain go on to the court and steal the talent. I felt like that was happening. Yeah. Very tired. I played a lot of games. I will say not that anyone gives us yet the low scoring games. It's good to see some defense being played at usually. Oh, defense was played. I was looking at like, why is the score so low anyway? What did you do this weekend? Homeboy guys. I got invited to short stories hotel. Right. I had a lot of Vanderpump rules meetings at short stories. Do you love it? Yeah, the food was bomb. So they rechanged their menu. Oh, is it still good? I think it's better than it was. So we got this spread. They've got like a couple of different things, but we we just went and we got this spread and oh my gosh, chicken coleslaw. They're honey biscuits with so is it going more like Southern? That sounds so good. I think it might be. I didn't really ask the direction they were going. They just invited me to be a part. Hey guys, identify this place is across the street from the growth. The growth like the really fun area. If you want to be farmers market parking lot. So but yeah, so I went and did that. The rooms are really cute. They invited me. They could I could have stayed and I I said, I gotta get back to the G. He's man. She needs me. But yeah, no, it was really good. So if you're looking for like if you're in the area like West Hollywood and want like a fun brunch, it's really cute. Obviously I don't drink, but their cocktails the way they like present them is really cute because other people were getting them. But yeah, it was really fun, really cute. So I went to short stories hotel just for like a little influencer food. We have a menu. So I went. So if anybody's in the area or traveling, like if you're coming into LA, I would look at short stories hotel because it's so cute walking distance of everything. And if you're not walking distance, you can grab a waymo no drivers. Don't even gonna be started on the way. I'm all about. You do it one time and you can't not. It is kind of nice. I sit behind the other seat so the driver can't see me in his rear view. Yeah, just know you are on camera though. So like be picking your nose and stuff. But yeah, once I was against them, did it once. Now I'm all about it. But yes, I had a very fun weekend. I went with a couple of friends, Tom, one of the point of brothers. You went with me. So it was fun. I just had a great time. But that was my weekend. I did miss you when you were like it was with my sister. Okay, so I get reprimanded. And I mean, just, just let me finish. I get reprimanded for going out and doing anything. In a sense, she's going to give you a look. But here's the thing. I leave and I come home and Lauren goes, I'm not mad that like you went. It's just like, I really like your energy around me. So I get mad when you have to leave. And I was like, all right, that makes me feel better now. Okay. Yeah. It did make me feel better when you said that. I don't know when people are going to realize that I'm a selfish person. How does you leaving affect me? I know. She's like, Easton, you can't go. Mom, I'm like, I have been taking care of you. Mom, and she looked at me and she's like, all right, go, go. You came back in great spirits. I do have me laughing my ass off. I had a fun day. No, no, it's leaving the compound by the way. No, that's what I'm doing. I want to make a shitload of money so we can just buy a lot of property and just build some homes. You know what I realized? Yes. How do you like your gemstone? Yeah. No, Elon musky Elon musky. Yeah. Did you guys see not a fan of him, but a fan of what he's doing? He just purchased like this ginormous compound full of mini mansions for all of his different children with a ginormous house in the center. Then they've got like a basketball court, pickleball court, like pool, everything. There's just like a house. Each mini mansion though has its own pool and then there's a giant pool for the days where it's family day. I would never leave. I don't leave my house now. Why would you? Why would you? For real. I'm trying to get. Same. You and me both. Manifestation at its finest. So, pop culture news. Are you in the know? I've got some. Kendra Moore. Kenya Moore. I love the color. Kenya Moore. Yeah. What's up with her? She's getting evicted, baby. From her house? No. Her salon. Oh, her salon. So I was just watching a video this morning. You're the great vine. She put like $80,000 into her, like whatever she was renting her, what do they call it? Your store. Your salon. Your salon. Well, it's a salon, but it's not a salon. It's a storefront that you made a salon. So her storefront that she made a salon. Okay. She put $90,000 into it to make it like nice and all of that. Well, she went to her landlord saying that she wanted $90,000 off on however they were going to do that. He said, no, no, I didn't approve of you doing this. So they went to court. She's withholding rent. So she's now getting evicted. So he was like, I don't care that you put 90 grand in. Wow. Pay me my rent. That should have been a discussion before she did it. Well, that's where Kenya should have said, I would like to do this. I'm going to talk to him and see if I can come to an agreement where 90,000 over eight years or 10 years will be taken off my rent. Damn. She didn't do that. I did this. So I deserve this. Yeah. The problem with that is if someone else comes in, what if they want to open a restaurant? Well, that was my biggest thing. It's like, cool, you put 90. What did you do? Did you make it a salon? It was gorgeous though. And now like he can only rent this out as a salon. Like that doesn't work for me as a storefront owner. I don't care what you put in. And by the way, I think at the opening of that salon a few seasons ago is when the pictures were put out of one of the allegedly, allegedly, one of the women who was new on the show. Giving a blow job. She put them all over and it was considered a legend. It was considered revenge porn and Kenya was not asked back. I think she was actually let go allegedly for this. And then come to find out it wasn't even her allegedly. A lot of allegedly. So, hold on. And did they dismiss her from the show or did she leave the show because of this? And are you going to be allowed back on? No, this show's airing right now. So she was let go, but she had nothing to do with it. You know, nothing to do with what? She printed the photos off and put them on allegedly. She did have something to do with it. Yeah. Yeah. Because she wasn't getting along with the with the girl. Oh, I've done that too. So it was allegedly. Allegedly. What a place to be. Bravo's fucking wild. You don't say I'm not even in the world of it, but boy, oh, boy, do they put you in the world of it? They will suck you in. And it is very hard to get out of it. Trust me. Trust me. Grateful, grateful. Fucking love. Summer House reunion happened. And audio was leaked. From the reunion that hasn't aired. Yep. This is the part that pisses me off. OK. And by the way, I did a a bonus episode and I talked about them going into the reunion and just like what I learned. And there was a comment that was like, no one should be taking advice from you. Look at where you ended up. I'm like, that's what you should take advice from me. Literally. That's why when someone when someone comes to you and they've hit very high highs and very low lows, I'm listening to that person because what would you have done differently? Stable mind. Right. I'm not going to listen to the person who's only had low lows because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Only high highs. Well, you live on cloud nine. We all talk so can't listen to you. You got to you got to find the person who who has been through it. All of the highs and the lows. Anyway, I said on that bonus episode of giving advice that I hope that this never happens to Summer House. What I meant to say was I hope something like this never happens to Southern Charm. Is that a lot of this is happening? Southern Charm because that show is just like my kryptonite. I'm just letting you know. The greatest show on TV. Really? Yeah. And they're back at it. Cameras are up and it is popping. I love. I love Southern Charm. I have to be honest, I haven't been watching Summer House that much, even with all the hubbub that's been happening, even with like the leaked nudes, all of that. You haven't been keeping up. I did see the leaked nudes. I'm just kidding. They sent them. They sent them to us in like our. DMs. Our DMs through like our podcast podcast. And I just opened it, guys. And boy, oh boy, was that a jump scare. Okay. Let me tell you something. I have, I have a few thoughts and then we'll go back to the audio on the leaked dick pics of West. They're a I West. Keep. I think they're a West. They're a I West. Um. I have recently decided. I haven't recently decided. I mean, there, people are going in. I think it was so not okay for someone to leak those images. It's like, okay, he slept with somebody. I got it. Not cool. Let's keep it all fun and games to like release his wiener. They did him so dirty. I have to imagine he's a grower, not a shower. Hmm. Lot of hair. Lot of hair. But also I felt bad. I don't think it was warranted. I don't think it was warranted to leak those photos. Just saying. The punishment is not fitting the crime in my book. Um, does anybody check on us after the pictures have leaked? You can't do that. You cannot send naked photos. By the way, when they were DM to us, I was like, I'm not sharing this with anybody. I didn't even know what they were. Let's just say that he goes into court and pulls every time someone sent that to somebody, you got a real fucking problem on your hands. Yeah, but I don't think they can get all of us, right? No, not at all. Think it barely. Get one. Have you seen how quickly the justice system works? Well, yeah. It ain't fast. But you can't kill the messenger, man. I agree with you. But the girl who let it out. I'm just the best. The way that my life works. The universe is constantly checking my ass. I would be the one that went down. I have the worst luck on the poor. She sent it out, but Lauren redid it. So let's get law. Blame it on law. Blame it on law. Instead of give them law, give them law, it should be blame it on law. Because I feel like I'm constantly taking the brunt. I'm constantly being checked. The universe is like, you made one wrong move. We're going to need you to pay for that. I'm like, what about all the people who are actually doing dirty shit? Do you ever think about that? Like when my life is in shambles and I'm like, what did I do? And then I think of like karma. I'm always like, they're going to get their karma. I'm like, how much shit did I do that this karma is really catching up? I'm going to start being a really, I'm going to start being a really fucking shitty person because they thrive. You know what you can't be because shitty people have shitty minds that can like you don't have a shitty mind. You don't have a shitty mind, though. Your mind doesn't work that way. As I say, it depends on who you ask. Yeah, but I know you well enough that like deep down, like if you were to ask me, like you could never be a shitty person. Well, again, depends on who you ask. And today I'm asking you. So you know what? I could never be a shitty person. Um, when the cameras are down. Yeah, it's only when cameras are up or I ate, we're making television, baby. We're making TV. Yeah. And I've been making it for a decade. So like you're very good at it. But when like things get real and like you're in like a business meeting, like a boardroom that you've been in, you're the furthest thing from like a step on neck piece of shit. You're like, how can we all win? I know I'm not supposed to talk about the show that I'm not on. What show? Exactly. I really did feel super badly about being so mean to the girl with the half pony. Yes. It was very and I, I'm not on socials like that, but I know that Michelle called me and was like, we're kind of getting eaten up out there and I was like, don't want to know. Don't want to know what are they saying? Don't want to know. Don't want to know what are they saying? So that we were mean girls. I'm like, yeah, I when I watched it, because I had friends send it to me and they say full transparency. I have not seen a full episode of the show yet that I'm not on. I stopped watching. If you know why I'll go through and start watching, but I too have been in a love bubble. So I've just been in my own little fucking world, but I'll go through and watch. But those clips and they were like, oh, my gosh, this is so funny. And I was like, it's not giving funny. It's kind of giving like super fucking mean. So back to the reunion audio leak. This is this is the most annoying thing ever. Bravo's launched an investigation to see who leaked this. They said it could have been a cast member. It could have been anybody. It could have been somebody on the A.D. The audio. But that is annoying to me because can I tell you when you step onto that set, it is a safe space. You are spilling your heart and soul on what you have. Yes. Question. Because I don't know about the leaked footage. Is the leaked footage not footage? It's just audio. Is it so it's like them offstage talking? No, it's what's going to be a part of the reunion. And it's, you know, Amanda basically saying, I am I just supposed to stay, stay celibate? Like I'm separated. We're going through a divorce. Sierra is saying like out of all of the dude, there's there's millions of dudes in New York City. Like how the fuck could you do this? Another cast member is saying, you know, what happened to you, Amanda? Like you went from being this girl who was like married and sweet and kind. So you hear all of these things. The thing that's annoying is back to how does this affect me? Well, when you have things like that, they're now going to take our phones. Not one person is going to be able to have their phone on set, which means no glam photos, no cute selfies, no behind the scenes that you hold until the reunion airs. Because glam teams can get really messy. As we've seen on Bravo, they can get very fucking in the mix. But Andy said this on his radio show this morning, eventually he claimed, so this happened, I want to say last week or maybe over the weekend. They recently recently filmed it. He said a Bravo fan came forward and was able to share more details about the leaked audio file. Let me say that though this team of investigators were on it, a Bravo fan who you're going to hear more about cracked the case and delivered crucial information. Wow. That I don't know that kind of is. We'll see where it goes to me. We will see where it goes. Slimy in there. There is something slimy in there. But also like I was saying the glam teams can get pretty messy. We've watched on other shows, example, Jersey Housewives, like one of the hair girls was at like the top of all of the drama that happened a couple years ago, their last season. We can't even have our own glam teams come on set. I couldn't have my old assistant come on set. It's going to be even. It's we're going to have to crack down even more, which is annoying because it's like we all have our specific person who we like with hair. We all have our specific person that we like with makeup. We all have, you know, an assistant who is therefore moral support. They're like an emotional support companion. That already can't happen. They're going to crack down in other ways where you're going to have to put your phone in one of those little fucking things that you're in high school. Yes. I don't want to feel like I'm in school when I go to a reunion. I can't wait to hear who it was, though, that that leaked that shit. What do you think is going to happen to the leaker? Nothing. What are they going to do? Well, it is against the law to record. Where did this? I don't know. It was probably it was in New York. Hold on. Exactly. It depends on the state. I don't know what New York is like. California is a two party consent state. But hold on here, but they both consented because they're mikes up. It just didn't. That will release, right? What we heard will release. Yeah, but no, but it's the pre-release that everybody's signing something that has nothing to do with some third party turning on their phone. Okay. Is that between the people or that bravo? That's a really good point because they your mics up. So you are consenting to everything. There's cameras on all of that. So my thing would be whoever leaked it is going to have problems with bravo and whatever theirs is. It's not going to be if you consented to be, you got a mic on. So you consented 100%. So whoever leaked it, yes, they'll get in trouble. But my thing is like, it's going to be with bravo and like just a job loss, maybe. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you guys remember this producer who was on Vanderpump rules. She went on a podcast and basically said that her favorite thing was to edit Sheena in a bad light. They let her go, but that bitch got a she was on another show after that. First episode of the BH reunion. Can I tell you? I don't know whose team I'm on. Kyle, Derit or Erica's. Is it possible to be on all three sides at once? Yeah, because they can each make like decent points. Okay. So let me explain why in this moment I'm on Kyle's side. Okay. I'm on Kyle's side because I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine being in a relationship for that many years and being so head over heels. And then it just slipped through your fingers. And I don't think she, I think she still is head over heels for him. I think she is too. I don't think she's got no choice. And she was given no choice. And now they've spent so much time apart adjusting. When I watch her, especially in her interviews, my heart is in pieces. Like I truly cannot imagine. I think I would have to pack up and move to a different state and just, I don't know, be in nature and try to get, come to grips with what life is about. Because LA can be so suffocating. You get so wrapped up in the, in the shit. Well, I hate to say it. I always feel for her because you always see Maricio, like he's out at DJing booths with 25 year old girls and with PK and then he's seen with other young, it's like, I feel like it's just a gut punch every day. Yeah. Like how did this happen? Yeah. So I feel for her because I can't imagine then filming a show where you're like, I'm just trying to come to grips with the fact that what my life was supposed to be at this age is, it's not that. And I'm sorry, it doesn't matter who you are, how much money you have. I just, a person is a person. And when you experience such high level emotion and like structure and groundedness. And then that goes away. I have to imagine that's fucking brutal. Well, not only that. And then you see like, aren't their kids just like barely like they're one of them's getting married. And I'm sure you think about, oh, like, Well, like this was their retirement now. Like think of that. They, they worked their asses off. They got their kids through school. Their kids are now older. And it's like, this was their time to like go and travel and be together just them too. Yeah. They did what they were supposed to. Now here's why I'm on Erica's side. Erica is straight chilling, right? Like she's no bullshit. If she's concerned about her homie, she'll express it in a very delicate way. And I love her voice too. She is just right here at all times. But then Wintoree says, you've been going through a hard time. It's like, yeah, she's not only like, she not only went through a divorce, but like had to come to groups with like, Tom was fucking cheating on her. And now he's getting in prison and he's going to die there. And he was one of the most prominent attorneys in the country. On top of, she's being hit with $25 million and has to go to court for it. I'd say that's some shit. That's a lot of shit. That is some shit. So that exchange in the finale episode, it was brutal. And you could tell Erica never cries. When she cried about that, it was like, oh, this is like a homie that turned on her. This is why I'm on Doreed's side. Doreed, I don't know how people feel about this season. And if people thought she was mean or cold, I noticed that she was a little bit more icy. And I fucking get it. When you start going through a separation and custody, and the man having whatever problems he has behind the scenes, and you know where all the bodies are buried, you're angry. So when she was like coming for Sutton or angry at Kyle, or, you know, had words with Erica, it's like she's not in her true form right now. This is a woman in pure survival. And I know that feeling so well that I didn't even judge her when she was like, don't care about this, don't care about that. You're not there for me. Because when the person you've been sleeping next to and have children with, does you dirty where you have to call it a day, it makes it very easy to be to write off a friend. Or look at them like my own partner didn't have my back and didn't care about me. And what the fuck would you do? Here you are, what the fuck would you? And I don't know that resolution is going to come from that reunion. At all. And again, it's all about presentation, my mom says. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. It's how you say it. But I've talked to Amber about this. If I bring you a gift, Easton, and there's dog shit in both. If I bring it in a perfectly wrapped box with a bow on it or a paper bag, why does it matter what I give it to you in if the contents inside are the fucking same? Honestly, I'd be pissed off if you pack shit in a pretty bow. Just give it to me in a brown bag so I can look in and go. Thank you. There are times where I'm like, oh yeah, my delivery was off. But then there are other times where I'm like, but why does that matter? I'm saying the same thing. It's just in a different package. Sensitive. Sentativity. So there's that. Stagecoach was canceled due to high winds. Post-bone, they say. I was pregnant with Sosin, went to Vegas for lovers and friends, and the wind was so out of control that they canceled the entire thing. And it was devastating. Ashanti was supposed to perform by joking me right now. I was ready to pull up there, donor baby and all, seeing mesmerized. Proud of you. I got a fetish for fucking you with a skirt on. Jesus fucking Christ. Moving on. Bask in the calm and charm of Bista Village. Join us for the summer event and refresh your wardrobe with an extra 30% off the village price. From the 22nd to the 31st of May, select lines and brands, see BistaVillage.com. Bista Village. The thrill of discovery. The last thing I want to talk about though is Drake released his album date last week. Iceman, iceman. You guys, it's Iceman. He put a bunch of fucking ice in Canada. People were taking blow torches and sludge hammers. So we're like- They almost had a can. Like just- Cops are out there. They're like, this has become unsafe. Somebody's going to accidentally get a hit in the head with a hammer. Anyway- But somebody got it. Yep. They, whoever found the envelope. And apparently it wasn't that deep. It was like pretty service level. Thank you, Drake, for doing that. You're going to have been a real asshole down in the middle, like seven weeks of people doing this. What a good guy. Yes, Drake, thank you. And the guy got the envelope. If you got the envelope, you got in a car, you went to Drake's home, and then you got to open the envelope there. It had the May 15th release date. And the guy got 50K in cash. I know. I love it. I love it so much. Okay, we're going to wrap it up with your ache and relief of the week, T. You got one? Yeah, my ache is just the hospital home that we live in. I think that's been the ache for the month. Okay, what's your relief? It's coming to an end. Yeah, I love it. It's coming to an end. I would say my ache of the week is definitely the same thing. I'm ready for normalcy and to get out of the hospital. Guys, when you wake up in your home and you step... Like, I wake up in my humble abode, thank God, and then I just not wanting to go over to yours, because I'm like, damn it, that hospital. I walk in and I'm like, oh, sad. I'm sad again. Yeah, my relief is Amber being in town. That is my relief and knowing that she is going to start looking at places to move back to LA. Damn right. I'm not supposed to say that, but here we are. Well, we did anyway. You guys, thank you for listening to another episode of Untraditionally La La. I'm going to catch you on Monday for our bonus again next week for a regular old episode. And remember, an unlikely affair with myself and Amber Childers every Thursday night at 9 p.m. You can catch it Friday morning as well. I love you. Talk soon. Bye. Buh. This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.