Summary
Episode 242 of Two Hot Takes explores unusual and bizarre personal stories submitted by listeners, including workplace harassment, relationship deception, family pranks, and spiritual manipulation. The hosts analyze these 'unique experiences' through a critical lens, discussing red flags, boundary violations, and appropriate responses to unethical behavior.
Insights
- Elaborate deception in relationships (job lying, false identities) often signals deeper character issues and inability to take accountability rather than isolated incidents
- Workplace harassment and inappropriate requests escalate when victims don't report immediately; swift HR action is critical for protecting others
- Spiritual advisors and life coaches can exploit vulnerable people through flattery and exclusionary language, creating cult-like dynamics that damage relationships
- Business failures to take accountability (dealerships, service providers) drive customer escalation to legal action and social media exposure
- Defensive responses and involving family members in personal conflicts indicates lack of maturity and inability to address core issues
Trends
Rise of unregulated spiritual advisors positioning themselves as therapists and life coaches with significant influence over major life decisionsDealership fraud patterns including unauthorized loan add-ons and signature transfers affecting multiple customers systematicallySocial media and attorney general complaints becoming primary leverage for consumer accountability when traditional customer service failsYoung adults (18-19) engaging in cruel pranks with psychological harm, suggesting empathy gaps in digital-native generationPerformative relationship posts on social media used to maintain false narratives or impress peer groups post-breakup
Topics
Workplace Sexual Harassment and Reporting ProceduresRelationship Deception and Trust ViolationsDealership Fraud and Consumer ProtectionSpiritual Advisor Exploitation and Cult DynamicsBoundary Setting in Family RelationshipsPurity Culture and Religious ExtremismWorkplace Hygiene Standards and BiohazardsConsumer Complaint Escalation StrategiesEmpathy Development in Young AdultsCoercive Control in RelationshipsUnauthorized Financial TransactionsSocial Media Harassment and False NarrativesThird-Party Service AccountabilityPsychological Manipulation TacticsPost-Breakup Behavior and Mental Health
Companies
Whole Foods
Boyfriend lied about working in pharmaceutical sales when he actually managed a Whole Foods store for 8 months
Ford
Arizona Ford dealership engaged in systematic fraud including unauthorized loan add-ons and vehicle damage during war...
Pima County Animal Control
Successfully reunited lost cat with owners after it was turned in and identified via microchip
People
Ryan
Boyfriend who lied about pharmaceutical sales job for 8 months, actually worked as Whole Foods manager
Vanessa
Bride who uninvited half of 200 wedding guests two weeks before wedding based on psychic's 'energy compatibility chart'
Matt
Groom who agreed to uninvite his entire extended family from wedding based on psychic's spiritual guidance
Alison
HR expert who runs Ask a Manager blog and advised woman to report coworker's inappropriate topless photo request
Quotes
"I don't actually work in pharma sales, babe. I'm a grocery store manager. I manage the whole foods on the mar."
Ryan (boyfriend)•Story 2
"Your energy is evolved beyond your parents energy. It's not personal."
Vanessa (bride)•Story 8
"I literally just stared at him. He kept talking like this was funny."
OP (girlfriend)•Story 2
"This guy is a creep and your employer needs to know."
Alison (Ask a Manager)•Story 1
"I don't want anything to attach to me. But at the haunted house, isn't that all man-made stuff?"
Host•Opening segment
Full Transcript
Okay, all the lights are off. We're recording on everything. Ah! Is that recording even also? It is. Okay. And we have dual slots today, dual slot memory cards. So, um, yeah, we're not taking any chances. We're not going to get us this time. Not taking any chances. Hard drives. Yeah, wow. I have really technology. Ever since Kalen's little haunted monkey came here, I've had some technology glitches. Ever since Kalen's little haunted monkey came here. Yeah, Kalen has a haunted monkey named Gordy. Okay. And she made a joke and she's like, he just like is really weird around technology. And ever since then, I've had like weird tech issues. And I'm just like, it's that damn monkey. Gordy! Gordy! Why would he do it? Is he gone now? Yeah, yeah, he's gone. But he left his mark. He went back to their house. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about him a little bit on the spooky episode. And she brought him into her house and then she heard like running around upstairs and she's like, oh, my dog must have got out of his kennel. Dog was in the kennel. Like it was the monkey. That's so funny also then to bring a little monkey here. Like, hey, this is my little monkey that fucks everything up. She loves that spooky shit. She's so into it. She wants to go to all the haunted houses. I've decided I can do a haunted house if I do it as like a THT meetup. If there's like 20 of us, then my odds of the ghost going home with me are a lot better. Going home with you. Yeah. At the haunted house. I don't want anything to attach to me. But at the haunted house, isn't that all man-made stuff? Oh, no, I'm talking like the real spooky places. Yeah, that's not for me. That's not for me. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. Yeah, I'm going to give it a go. But I'm going to have all of you there. It's over. It is. It's time for great cheer and Mary. Well, that is not what we have on this episode. So maybe next week we'll circle back to Mary and Cheerful. I am going to do like a crazy holiday episode and do like bad, horrible horrendous family. Yeah. Happy feel good Christmas. Oh, bad, horrible. Oh, feel okay, Christmas. Okay. So that's my sandwich. I love that. I love it when we get both. A little best about the world. You had, we had like a really sad or scary or bad episode one time. Well, the episode was like the stories. And then you ended it with like a really happy one. And I was like, oh my god. That's just changed everything. I'm going to walk out here a happy woman. That's why we aim to kind of please over here. But today's episode really wild. Michaela came up with this theme of unique experiences. Just experiences that are unusual and out of the realm. And kind of like, wow, thought I've heard it all. But that's still a little, little unique. Yeah, I feel like it started on Twitter of like nobody's ever had an entirely unique experience. And then sometimes you hear a story where you're like, maybe that is an entirely unique experience. Or like a sentence that you're like, oh, that's never been said before. Yeah. You'll see it in the comments on TikTok videos where you're like, oh my god, finally a unique experience. And it's just the most like insane situation. So I don't want to hype them up too much. In case you guys are like, yeah, no, they suck. But I think they should be pretty good. Yeah. And if you can actually relate to one of these experiences that we think should be a unique experience, let us know because I'm very curious. And put yours in the comments. Yes. I love seeing the personal ones. If you have a personal one and you're like, okay, I'll throw it out there now. Like you're, I don't know, your boyfriend ended up hooking up with your brother at a bar in Ireland. I don't know. Something crazy. That can't be unique. That's definitely happened to at least 20 people. 20? I guess out of the billion or whatever. Yeah, okay. Okay. But put in the comments. And without further ado, let's dive in. This episode of Two Out Takes is presented by Oli. Women always come first with Oli. That's why they made Love and L habito. A supplement that helps take the pressure off so you can enjoy yourself and sex again. Be a little self-serving and get Love and L habito at a retailer near you or Oli.com. So you can get yours. That's O-L-L-Y.com. Andrews code THT30 for 30% off at Oli.com. Okay, this first one. This is coming from Ask a Manager, which is like this blog website where you can write into this manager, Alison, who's just like HR manager expert. And she'll give you a response back. So this is actually coming from there. And the title is, my coworker asked me to pose topless for an anatomy textbook. I work part-time in a small sales office of about 10 people. About a month ago, one of my coworkers approached me about doing a project for his graduate program at a local university. It was for some sort of anatomy textbook or similar. It would be a photo of my breasts with my face, not in the photo, for the textbook. I would be compensated for the photos. There were some red flags in his proposition. The photos would be taken by him in my home. And he never presented me with official paperwork about it. I call the university and they assured me that whatever project he was working on was not through their university. As there would have been extensive paperwork, screening, photos professionally taken, etc. Which was what I had figured in the first place, particularly for such a large university and for a master's program. My question is, is this a matter that I should bring up to my boss? Is this something that she needs to know about? Yes, yes, your boss needs to know about that. Oh. This is such an elaborate plan to just get pictures of a woman's boobs. Like, oh my gosh. Sir, it's for an anatomy textbook. Come on. Okay, then where's the studio? Where's a professional photographer? Like, why would you choose me? Why would this not go through some kind of blind audition? I don't know how you actually choose a model for a textbook, but it's not that coworker is someone I'd like to see the boobs of. I feel like people sign up to be models. Yeah. Like, they put themselves out there or go to casting calls. It's not like... Totally. Oh, this random person I work with in my small sales office of 10 people also has a job shooting for anatomy textbooks. Right. Like, textbooks are professionally done. Like, I would imagine that whoever's doing the textbook is like an actual professional photographer. Not like, not like this is some side gig. And it wouldn't be at your house. It would be your house. No. No, this is so weird. Like, either way, even if he did have a textbook that he was shooting for, it is still inappropriate to ask your coworker. Yeah. Ask anyone else. Put out an open casting call as you're meant to do it. By asking your coworker, I think it's even creepier because it also illustrates he's been checking her out. He's creating this elaborate excuse in order to see her boobs. Yes. And it's like, okay, so you have a textbook of if you're going to shoot someone's breasts and then you're thinking, oh, who would be perfect for this? Oh, that woman I work with, she would be perfect. Like, why are you thinking of me that way? He just wants to see her boobs. He's been like checking her out for how many months of them working together. And now he's like, oh, this is great. This is my end. I'm going to create this elaborate story about a textbook. And then I'm going to say, let's shoot it at your house so I know where she lives. How did he even, oh, yeah, at her house? Like, that's so dangerous. She definitely needs to tell the manager. HR needs to know stat because this is ridiculous. And then, yeah, the university being like, that's not even a thing. Last straw. Yeah, no, the university proving it. If there were even more straws to be had, that's the last straw. Yeah, Kamel's back is already broken. So on the original thread with Allison, here is her response back. And it was kind of like directed towards, like, my question is this, is this matter that I should bring up to my boss? Is this something that she needs to know? And Allison goes, whoa, yes, absolutely. Today, your coworker is trying to pray on colleagues to take topless photos of them under false pretenses. Tell your boss, tell HR, tell other women. Frankly, even if history were true, which it's not, it would have been really inappropriate for him to approach you, a coworker about this. That's not how anatomy photos in textbooks work. This guy is a creep and your employer needs to know. Yeah, a thousand percent. And I wonder if when she called the university, if the university was also like, ugh, like, did they have any internal conversations about that? I don't know, because who knows if he's even a student there? Yeah. Like, I don't understand. He's a busy guy, he's got a lot going on. And that's, yeah, I do not understand this dude's story. He's getting a master's, was it? His master's program? Apparently, and works in a sales office, and is making a textbook as part of the master's program? Yeah, okay. Very fishy. Yeah. We do get an update. Ooh. This is coming 11 days later, and oh, P says this. I have to admit that I didn't wait until I read your reply. I wrote the email to you on a night when both my boss and the coworker in question were not in the office, but my boss was in the next day, and I went in early and told her everything. The coworker in question was immediately terminated. I wrote a report for HR, so he is considered non-rehirable for any future campaigns. His desk was packed while I was writing my report to HR, and by the time I returned to the floor, someone else had even taken his desk. Wow. They moved fast. Ooh. I love this response. I know. Love this response. It was kind of emotionally taxing for me to respond to comments, so I didn't, but I did read most of them. Our office is incredibly lax compared to most people's, I would imagine, and my background is mostly in food service. So I was honestly very surprised at how many people had chimed in with this is incredibly inappropriate of your coworker to approach you about. I think when one is used to inappropriate work environments, these sort of interactions don't expressly present themselves as immediately inappropriate, if that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, that does make sense. I think it's very normal to like wonder if you're overreacting when you're the one in a situation, and it's a lot easier to be like, no, that's crazy and not okay when you are not in that situation. I mean, I've definitely had, like when she says that, I think of my jobs in like nightlife food service too. Like I did bottle service. Like the people I worked with made comments all of it, because like it's about like how you look to some extent. So obviously there's like not really as much of a line there about comments people make about you. But then it's still like even in a situation like that, there are things that are like okay. Yeah, and it's easy to just question it when you're in it. You're like, yeah, whatever I'm used to it, or that's not that weird. Yeah. Kind of just like kind of into yourself, because also you need to work. Right. She does go on to say in regards to a certain comment thread, yes, I was concerned about retaliation. This coworker was not only a former Marine, but a knife fighting instructor. What the see this makes no sense. Completely unique experience. Like what the fuck? But as other people have commented, I think women in general are concerned about retaliation in our everyday lives. Not just when someone we know is harassing us. At the end of the day, this clown couldn't even put any damn effort into making his sleazy scheme smack of the official. So I think he is not likely to put any extra effort into tracking me down over his part-time job. But I am walking accompanied to transit every night regardless. Thanks so much for your advice. I do really appreciate it. And I appreciate everyone's comments. I hope that anyone who reads your site knows that they should feel comfortable reporting harassment when they experience it. I am grateful that in this case, things were dealt with very swiftly and justly, because I know that isn't always the case. Yeah, I mean, hey, if any of you have had a knife-fighting instructor who's in a master's program and works with you, tell you they'd like to take pictures of you, topless for their anatomy textbook. Let us know. You know, if you know a friend who's that to happen to, if you know, like, hey, hit us up because I'm curious. There's no way. That's crazy. Well, it's also like, okay, when people start lying about stuff, then I'm like, I don't believe anything. I'm like, was he a Marine? Was he a knife-fighting instructor? Is that like a common thing? I've, well, I've certainly never heard of it, but they got to be out there. Andy's a photographer for anatomy textbooks. Andy's getting his masters, Andy works here. I think he's not a photographer for an, and then, well, he's definitely not a photographer for an anatomy textbook. But I think he was maybe saying he was making an anatomy textbook as part of his master's program. But then, am I getting even an master's program? No, I don't know. And also, yeah, maybe he was lying about being a knife-fighting instructor, because that sounds like, like, oh, I'm a knife-fighting instructor. You don't know, mess with me. It does, it's on his face. But we're gonna have knife-fighting instructors out there be like, it's a real job, Morgan. Well, it probably is. And I could see someone who is a Marine go into that. But where's he? Find the time. A lot of, a lot of things going on there. Where's the time of time? A lot of things going on. Well, he's got more time now. He lost his job, so. He did. He did lose that job. Hopefully, he stays away from that job. And the way he's in the open work there. Yeah. I just don't know why. There needs to be better social skills for people. They need to stop men. They need to stop falling into, like, toxic online rhetoric, because it's like, if you were just like a decent guy, and like, you want to see some boobs. If you just kindly asked people to go on dates and started to, you know, maybe get interested in someone and courted them, you could see boobs probably a lot easier than this. Sure, sure. But you don't get to just see whoever's boobs you want to see. That's just not how it works. No. And that is not the case. You can see boobs. But you either have to look them up or, you know, get into a relationship with somebody or have a consensual experience with somebody where you're both signing up for an experience that you are aware is the experience you're having instead of a fake experience. You can conject it. Conject it. You can create it. Something like that. I'm a little like that. Uh-huh. Okay, move it on. On your next account. Oh, what? There you go. This next one we have is coming from the Ask Aubrey Instagram account. I actually have two coming from her. I've since tried to find both of them on Reddit. I cannot. So I don't know where Ask Aubrey is finding them. There's one I've seen on her page that I was able to go find. And it's on the two outtakes sub Reddit. I think because I'm a moderator, like I can see any post. And also it hasn't been removed from my sub. But I think on the other stories I have from her, I think they were removed from whatever sub they were posted in. It's so hard to find posts on Reddit. Like that happens to me on Twitter. Yeah, you send me one from Twitter. Yeah, like I'll find a post, like a Reddit post on Twitter. And then I'll try to actually find it on Reddit. And it's like impossible somehow. I know. If you don't catch it quick enough and it gets removed, there's really no way of getting it back. Like you'll have the screenshots and you'll be able to see. But for this one and the next one, we obviously won't have any comments. Wow. Yeah, but there's two comments. We do we have some Instagram comments. We can read those. That'll kind of maybe satiate or are craving for a comment. Okay. Here is the first one. My boyfriend's joke at dinner made me realize he's been lying about his job for eight months. I, 27 female, have been dating Ryan, 29 male, for about a year and a half. He told me from the start that he works in pharmaceutical sales, makes decent money, travels sometimes for conferences, the whole thing. I never had a reason to question it. Last night we went to dinner with my parents in Austin where I'm from. My dad, 61 male, is a retired pharmacist and he was asking Ryan about his work, which pharma company, what drugs he specializes in, that kind of thing. Normal conversation. Ryan got really vague. Like weirdly vague, kept redirecting. When my dad asked what his territory was and Ryan said, quote, oh, you know, central region mostly. And my dad was like, so Oklahoma, Kansas, and Ryan literally said, quote, yeah, and other places, it's pretty fluid. Then my dad mentioned some new medication that just got approved. And Ryan had no idea what he was talking about. My dad looked confused but moved on. Here's where it got weird. We're in the car after and I'm like, quote, that was awkward. You seemed really uncomfortable. And Ryan laughs and goes, yeah, your dad almost caught me. I was like, what? And he says, I don't actually work in pharma sales, babe. I'm a grocery store manager. I manage the whole foods on the mar. I literally just stared at him. He kept talking like this was funny. Said he told me pharma sales when we first met because it sounded better. And then it became this thing where he couldn't figure out how to tell me the truth. So he just kept going with it. Eight months, he's been lying for eight months since like March. I asked why he lied about traveling for conferences. And he said he was actually doing training sessions for new hires at other Whole Foods locations. The late nights were just him closing the store. He genuinely seemed to think this was like a cute confession. Like I'd laugh about it. He was smiling and said, come on, it's not that big of a deal. I still make good money. I told him to take me home and I haven't really talked to him since last night. He's been texting, saying I'm overreacting. And it was just small lies that got out of hand. My best friend says I should dump him immediately. My sister thinks I should hear him out because everyone lies a little when dating. But I keep thinking what else has he lied about? And why did he think pharmaceutical sales sounded better than store manager? There's nothing wrong with managing a grocery store. The line is what's weird. Am I overreacting or is this as big of a red flag as it feels? This is a crazy red flag. And also the way that he confessed to it is crazy. Oh, he almost caught me. Like she's in on the joke. Yeah, she has no idea. Like you're about to tell me something that completely changes. Like now I have to think about the late nights that you had. And the conferences you went to, this isn't just some small little thing. And for someone to be able to have such an elaborate lie to you for eight months, it would still be bad if he apologized and was like, okay, I have to tell you something. Like this has gotten out of hand and I'm so sorry from his meeting. Even if he'd had like a very genuine real apology, like that it still would be concerning, but he didn't even do that. He didn't. No, that's a really good point. I don't like this. I do think that lying is, like to this extent, it's something that with practice, you get better at and you get more comfortable with it and you feel less bad about doing it and you feel like it's less of a big deal. And for him to be like so, just in the zone with this, it does concern me for the future. It really does because for me, I look at this and it's like, I think the response really shows something scary. It just feels like really manipulative and not necessarily gaslighting in that way, but it feels like such a toxic thing where it's just like, oh, he almost caught me. Ha ha, not that big of a deal. Yeah. I just, I don't know, small things, small thing, babe. The response is concerning. But beyond that, he lied not once, not twice. He has been lying consistently for months. They've been together a year and a half. She said like, he's been lying about this for eight months. So I don't know if this was a new job that he then was lying about. I don't know, but he's lied to you multiple times. Oh, I'm working late tonight. I've got to take a doctor out to dinner. Yeah. He's at the store. So if he's so comfortable lying again and again and again to you, he's going to keep lying. I also think it's just like, how do you trust anything going forward? Yeah. When he's like, yeah, I'm going out to dinner with some buddies. How do I know that? You were so easily and capable of lying in the past about everything that like, I don't have any faith or trust in you now. Yeah. Like you would never love trust issues. Yeah. And it's like, he's clearly able to hide shit. Yeah. Like I just think someone like this that's so deceptive, you can't be with. He needs to go start fresh with someone else. It's not you. This is absolutely crazy to lie like this for so long. Yeah. And I think you touched on this with the gaslighting thing. I always like, the way that people fight or the way people confess things or like the way that they show up to tough conversations. I think says a lot. And this gives me the impression that like when he does something wrong, he will always minimize it. He will always laugh it off. He'll always act like you're overreacting. Like you're crazy for feeling the way you do. And I don't like how that will continue to show up in everything that they have in the future. I mean, there are only a year and a half in like, sometimes these things don't even show up for the first year and a half. Like, you have kids one day. You get married one day. Like all of these different things happen. And now the stakes are higher. And he's still like, minimizing his wrongdoings and acting like you're crazy. You lied for eight months about your job. My dad has the job that you're lying about having. Like that also puts her in an uncomfortable position because now she has to tell her family. Oh my god. Like her dad's a pharmacist. He's an old pharmacist. Out of all the jobs you could have picked, why that one. I also wonder if that had something to do with her dad being a pharmacist. If he was like trying to impress her because it's like, your dad's a pharmacist, hey, I'm a drug rep. Like, yeah, it was either that or it was his nightmare scenario of, oh shit, her dad is what I'm pretending to be. And now I'm going to have to like lie harder. So weird. Yeah. So it's so weird. Break up with her. It's scary. The top comment on the Instagram post. And when she does dump him for lying and being untrustworthy, he'll be like, I can't believe she dumped me because I work at Whole Foods. Yep. It's like, it's not that. It's quite literally not that. These freaking gold diggers, man. She wouldn't have cared. Yeah. You lied repeatedly again and again, not just one lie, but dozens, maybe hundreds. If you've been together that long and you're have enough trainings and working late that many times, like it could be hundreds of lies. It's so true. He might take that as the lesson from this if she dumps him. Like, oh, it was because of my job and not because of all of these extremely valid red flags and things that he did wrong. He is completely untrustworthy. There's no integrity there. There's no sense of ever being able to have faith in him going forward to tell you the truth. I also think at a bare minimum, too, I don't think he respects you. If he's willing to lie to you like that, again and again and again, I don't think someone like that respects you. And without respect in a relationship, you're a mat they'll walk over. Yeah. Like, they'll do whatever they want to do to get their way and make sure that their self is served. Especially if they've already gotten away with something like this and you're fine with it. It's crazy, dude. This is crazy. The more I'm like, I just, I hate when people lie like this. Like, I understand being insecure about a job and like the urge to buff it up and make yourself sound more impressive. But like, again, lying to a woman, lying to anybody about what you do for work so that they will sleep with you and date you, like that already is not okay. Even if it just happens once, like for a one night stand, it's still like you're misrepresenting who you are and lying about your identity. So to do that for eight months, yeah, it just, yeah. I hate it. Did I fly it to any hate it? Oh, it's, nope. No, we got no replies. Wow. We don't know what's happening. Any other comments that are speaking to you? Nothing that's worth writing home about. I mean, people are just like, yeah, he's on trustworthy. He lied about something so unnecessary to lie about in the first place and then maintain that lie for over a year. Do you see anyone else take the other view point? No. Wow. Okay. I like to see it. We're in agreement. I love it when we're in agreement. Yeah. Sometimes I have an opinion and then I hear what the actual thoughts are and I shocked Pikachu face. I'm like, I can't, I can't believe it. I know. I was getting a little concerned for humanity based on some of the votes on some of the posts. But then I'm like, I don't know. Everyone's responding with their own experiences and yeah, teach. You know, do your own thing. Yeah. But moving on to this next one, story number three for us. Yes. This episode is brought to you by Talkspace. 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Just like it might make you lose a little in humanity. But it's a story that's important to read, I think. You know, you can all take something away from it. Oh, wow. Okay. Maybe this is coming from our slash relationship advice. It's titled my 18 female boyfriend and his friends 18 19 male played a viciously cruel prank on an older couple who lost their cat. Obviously, I'm breaking up with him. But what else can I do to make this right? When it's like an older couple, I just like that's where I get to upset. I've been with my boyfriend for about a year. We are both honors students who are graduating in about a month. He's a good guy and we were going to try to make it work even though we are going to different out of state schools. However, he has a group of friends and when he's with them, he does very stupid things. He was out with them last night and called me and told me he was at Purple Heart Park. And if I wanted to come, I could come and see them. I live about a block away in Rita, so I told my parents and they were fine with me going. When I got there, they were like rolling on the ground. They were laughing so hard. I asked them what was so funny and they wouldn't say. Then one pointed to an older couple who was walking around with a flashlight, calling the obvious name of a pet. I cannot figure out what was so funny about that, but as the couple came closer to us, they said we need a to leave. When we got into my boyfriend's car, they absolutely lost it with laughter. I asked them what happened and maybe 30 minutes prior, one of them had spotted a missing cat poster and called the number and lied and told the owner that they had spotted the cat in Purple Heart Park. I instantly knew the posters since one was on our mailbox and they had been there for maybe six weeks. In Tucson, we know when a cat has gone that long, a coyote had gotten it. I wanted to throw up. This was so cruel to do to those poor people to give them hope like that. I demanded to be taken home that second and he did. I didn't say a word to any of them and I hate that I even know this happened. I'm going to break up with him, but what can or should I do to make this up to the poor couple who was missing the cat? I'm devastated with guilt that I know something about it, but don't know what I should do. I can't ask my parents because I'm afraid my dad will actually beat the crap out of them and risk losing his job. He's such an animal lover. This is so fucked up. To get that much enjoyment out of it and to think it's so funny and awesome that this poor older couple is searching through the park at night with flashlights because they think that they're cats there and they've been putting the flyers everywhere. This even found flyer for it in her mailbox. They've been trying so hard and this is so mean. It's so mean. Six weeks to a month and a half of your pet being gone. That is just cruel and devastating and to toy with them like that. It's psychological abuse. It really is. When you are knowingly subjecting someone to that false hope and fucking with them like that, that's really messed up. It's really speaking to deranged men. Because they're 18 and 19. They're about to go off into the world on their own. These are not just kids. These are people that really don't have a moral compass and need to find the light quickly because this is shitty. Yeah. It's hard. What are you going to say with her question at the end? Initially, I was like, I don't know if there's anything she can do. But then also when I thought about it more, I was like she probably does need to tell them that this was like a prank call because if they have this idea that like, yeah, they could be out late at night like searching for the cat like really trying to look in that area more like renewing their efforts and it's like all just because of a lie and like a joke. I think it's probably the right thing to do to tell them. But yeah, like damn, that's got to also like for them their faith in humanity is going to be shattered after that. And I know and it sucks because it's like that's not OP's job to have to do that. But it is kind of one of those like it would just be a nice caring gesture to be like, hey, like I and I would just like remove yourself from it. I'd almost just be like, hey, I heard some kids talking at school that like they prank called you guys. I'm really sorry. Like I don't think they saw your cat like based on what they were saying about this prank. Yeah. And just remove yourself. You don't have to say my boyfriend like, but like I think you could definitely tell them. Yeah. And you can offer like next time you look, I can go with you. I mean, if you really want to do something to like try to make it up for them. Yeah. Maybe this is the start of a beautiful friendship. Yeah. Who knows. But yeah, it's not OP's responsibility. I think just sharing that information with them so that they're not doing more sleepless nights looking for this cat. Yeah. Top comment on this one to back you up. I can truthfully say there is no way I could continue seeing someone who not only did something like this, but laughed and laughed about it afterwards. Disgusting. No wonder you are so upset. I feel for you and wish you and the cat owners all the best. The laughing about it and the the amount of enjoyment they got out of it is definitely the worst part in my mind. It's like the enjoyment of someone suffering. And even if it wasn't the boyfriend's like idea and he just went along with it. It's like, okay, so you're just like a follower to like anything, any awful thing people say that's like, ew, I don't want to be with someone who's like a weak willed no backbone asshole. Like you're an asshole and you're weak. Yeah. Yeah, it's not looking good for you. Yeah. My guy. So we do get an update. We get an update. So I posted the original on Sunday morning after it all happened and here it is. So basically breaking up with my boyfriend was an easy decision and I did it over text. He said that like after a year, he deserved better than a text breakup. I said after what I saw him do on Saturday night, he really didn't. He tried to say that the prank was not his idea and I really needed to cut him some slack. I said that maybe it wasn't his idea, but I saw him laughing just as hard as his friends. And that was enough for me. He's been a total shit at school, but it started turning on him bad when I explained to people why we broke up and who he was with, a guy who graduated last year, who's a creep. What was harder is what I should do with the people. I had two choices as I saw it. Either not call and let them have false hope the cat was still alive or call and let them know they had been pranked. Basically, after thinking about it all day, I decided that if it were my dog in question, I'd want all the info I could get. I was so nervous calling them, but the lady answered and I think I said I had some information about their lost cat. She basically stopped me and said that it was a miracle, but their cat had been turned in to Pima County Animal Control two days prior and they finally got in a return on the chip and they called them that very morning and they had just gotten the cat home. Oh my God. I was so relieved because I didn't have to tell them some awful news about how my boyfriend was a piece of shit. I was also happy for her because she seemed so happy. I told her I was very happy her cat was home and said goodbye. So that's like really good news and I'm happy to get rid of my idiot boyfriend. Oh my God, I didn't expect the happy ending to this. I really was here too. I thought there's no way they're ever going to find the cat. So the only two things that can happen here is either they tell them it was a prank or they let them have false hope. Like she said. And this secret third option, like, are you kidding? Thank God. Find door number three. My faith is back. Things can be okay. I know. Really good ending and hopefully boyfriend, ex boyfriend, wakes up, gets his shit together. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty. It's pretty irredeemable, but maybe there are some 18 year olds who still have the potential to grow and become better people. And I think a lot of people in this world do something that they maybe spend the rest of their lives feeling bad about. Like they say something or they, you know, act in a petty way that like just wasn't this or whatever. And then they're maybe he'll grow conscience after this. I don't know. I think so. I think like if you got dumped over something like this, I hope it doesn't push him the other way where he's then resentful and sneakier and whatever. Like, yeah, I hope this is like a, oh, yeah, no, this was shitty. Yeah. There's consequences. And hopefully he learns. I mean, he's young, 18, 19, however old, but like, you got to grow up at some point. Yeah. We do all have to learn empathy. Like it is a learned thing over time of like, okay, I'm not the center of the universe. Like just because I'm living in my head doesn't mean everyone else isn't living in their heads too, you know. But yeah, for some people, it's a slower experience, I think. So I'm more lenient now because the cat's okay and was returned. Still definitely stayed broken up. Yeah, no, no, no, but I'm like, maybe this guy has, there's a chance one chance there could be a better person. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It is interesting. That's like a conversation we've had quite a bit on this podcast is like, is empathy something you can learn? Like, are we just born empathetic? Like there are some people that I think like they, they would just will never get empathy. And I think that's just the way their brain is. Something's not firing in a part of their brain. I don't know. But like, I do think you can also learn how to increase your empathy. Yeah. I think, I mean, I remember being some kind of age in the teens and like, understanding for the first time that like other people's perspectives are because they've had completely unique experiences from mine. And like, you know, like, I think you start to understand other people more and more and more. But I do think also, you know, children are often very kind and like sweet and understand like, hey, that hurt mommy. And like, they learn that lesson pretty young. They like hit mommy and it hurts or something. But yeah, I think you see this a lot with teenagers. And even though 18 is technically an adult, it's like, there's sometimes 18 year olds aren't really adults. Yeah. I mean, there's guys in my life that like were very immature for their age. And they were like two years behind what their actual age was. Yeah. Because of school. And you know, they were in a different grade than what their age was supposed to like put them in eight, like, grade wise or whatever that is. So I think like everyone can mature a different race. But like, okay, these are the moments though. Yeah. Like could could make that 100%. This is the fork in the road. So hopefully he takes the right path. But moving on to this next one, very nice of us, very generous of us to, hey, to give them a little bit of hope there. If that cat wouldn't have been okay, I would have been driving to Tucson and hit in someone with the bat, but cats okay. So we're okay. Innovation is moving fast across every industry with AWS AI from Formula One insights to smarter power grids and personalized learning. AWS AI is how leaders stay ahead. Okay. So this is the other one coming from ask Aubrey. And again, we won't have any comments from O P O P because that's just we don't have it. But it is an interesting one. And I think it's worth a read. I believe you. If Morgan is saying a Reddit story is worth a read. All right. Strap me buckle up. So this is titled my boyfriend's mom gave me a purity test at family dinner. And now he's mad at me for leaving. Oh God. You need experience for sure. Up you ready test. Okay. I 26 female have been dating my boyfriend Ryan 28 male for about 10 months. Things have been pretty good into last weekend when I finally met his parents at their house in Atlanta for Sunday dinner. I got a land on my shirt. Look at that. I was so shocked when she gave it to me. I didn't even know what to say. I just stared at her. She took my silence as me refusing to answer and said, I see. So you have things to hide. I stood up and said I needed to use the bathroom. But instead I just grabbed my purse and left called an Uber from the driveway. Ryan didn't even notice I was gone until like 20 minutes later when he came back inside. He's been blowing at my phone ever since saying I embarrassed him in front of his parents. And I should have just played along to keep the peace. His mom is apparently very upset and crying saying that I rejected her attempt to get to know me better. Ryan says his mom is just protective and comes from a really religious background. So I need to be understanding. But like a purity test on an app at 26 years old. Am I insane or was that completely out of line? I cannot imagine this happening. So it's an app. It's a purity test on an app. It must be. Yeah. Okay. Not OP isn't writing this the best. I mean, a lot of people I think are like kind of like, are we sure this one's real? But I will say long before AI ever existed. And obviously people could still write creatively online. I had a story and it was an episode. It was an unhinged episode. I think it was unhinged 2.0. Me, Lauren and Justin. And we had a story about a woman writing in and her fiancee had kind of blindsided her the night before the wedding. And was requesting that his family check her hymen for purity before the wedding. She's still intact. Oh my God. I do think there are people out here that are like this. Like I feel like there's stories we've read or things where people have been like, yeah, is mom can front of me and ask me if I was still a virgin. Yeah. If I was good enough for her son or like, you know, people imply stuff like that all the time. Yeah. I think that the the purity app of it all, especially upon first meeting is like what makes us a unique experience. But to have like mother-in-law or like mother of someone try to find out if their future daughter-in-law would be pure. Like that is not that crazy. Like that that unfortunately is happening. And I cannot imagine showing up to meet my partner's parents for the first time and they pull out a purity app and say, take this test. And then, oh, so you do have something to hide. I'm 26. I am 26 years old. Like, yes, I've lived a life. God forbid, I've lived a life. So doing some quick research. There is an app in the app. It is called the rice purity test plus. Looking at some of the questions, there's a screenshot. Does it have reviews? No reviews yet, not enough reviews to generate or rating. But this is real. From what I'm seeing, this is real. And here are some of the questions held hands romantically, been on a date, been in a relationship, danced without leaving room for Jesus. Kisht a non-family member. Kisht a non-family member on the lips. French Kisht, French Kisht in public. Kisht on the neck. Kisht horizontally. Given or received a hickey. Kisht horizontally. Kisht or Ben Kisht on the breast. Kisht someone below the belt. Kisht for more than two hours consecutively. Played a game involving stripping. This is like, this is so funny because this is also kind of a meme that goes around on Facebook or Twitter or whatever social media apps sometime where it's like, oh, add up your score. And if you've done these things and then say what your score is, but don't say why your score is what it is. And it's like, oh my, you know what? So that's what it does. Every single time you check the box, it does subtract a point. I believe there's a hundred questions. I can only see to number 43. I'll make sure we post the image on our Instagram so you guys can see. I don't know if you'd be able to read it on YouTube, but we'll put it in there as well. Everything subtracting from your score and then like having to say that to your partner and their family is so demeaning like, oh, here's my number out of this of how pure I am. Like, I mean, these, they start to get a little crazy too. Like, seen or read porn, gone through the motions of intercourse, waffly dressed, undressed or Ben undressed by a member of the preferred sex, showered with an MPS member of the preferred sex, fondled or had your butt cheeks fondled, had your breasts fondled, had or given blue balls, had an orgasm due to someone else's manipulation. Are these with different amounts of points? Purchased contraceptives. Like, is holding hands going to subtract the same amount as I believe so? That's crazy. It's not even a good test. Yeah, it's used to see how pure you are. It's free, fun and exciting. It has 100 questions and the lower the score you get, the more things you did and the less pure you are. It's fun, free and exciting. I believe that this is a thing because when I was going through my like elementary school stuff, I found a contract that I had signed with the church. What? And I grew up Christian and they had created this contract of like, I will not kiss until this age. I will not date until this age and then it has like my like seven-year-old signature on it. So this does not sound far off to me because I literally signed a purity contract. I just like, I don't understand this mindset. I'm like, I'm lost in the sauce on this website. There's now there's a website for it to the ricepeuritetest.com and it goes caution. This is not a bucket list. Completion of all items on this test will likely result in death. This is not a bucket list. I mean, question 70 had sexual intercourse 10 or more times. She is 26. Traveled. Okay, I'm like fucked up. I would actually check so many of these boxes. Yes, because you're an adult woman. Traveled 100 or more miles for the primary purpose of sexual intercourse. Yep, right here. We were taking planes 2,000 miles to get fucked. Like what? This mom would hate my guts. All fat being a question is so funny and that's also hilarious. Had a pregnancy scare. Ding, ding, ding, ding. I have not done number 100 though. Okay, engaged in bestiality. So there's some wonky question. And again, is that worth the same amount of points as holding hands? Like there should be well, let's find out. Let's find out. Okay, so I'm clicking holding hands. Okay, calculate my score 99. Okay, so it took it took one off. Right. I'm going to take this lovely test again. Okay, bestiality, for example, bestiality, score of 99. Same amount of points. Holding hands or participating in bestiality. A well done test. Same amount of points. So given all of our research here. Yes. You know, I always say, I believe these stories about 90% of the time. I actually, I'm very convinced looking at this app. I absolutely. I believe that this is a thing that would happen. And honestly, like, even if it's not a mother-in-law with a purity app, I'm sure that there are like pastors out there, you know, when people are like getting married and they can sell with a pastor, I'm sure that there's like some communities where this purity test in a written form of some kind is used. Like this does not sound like they made an app based on there being no paper trails. History of it. It's just such a crazy thing to do in 2025 as well as like two or 26-year-old woman. And that's the thing. He's 28. She's 26. Like, is he also getting this purity test? Like, does his mother care about his purity or is it only this girlfriend? And her, if her mother gave him the purity test, would like his mother also think that's weird? Like, why are you doing that to my son? Yeah, no, this is absurd. Yeah. I think the overall question, am I insane? No, I'm insane. Was that completely out of line leaving the family dinner in Uber? No. No, I would have done the same thing. Yeah. The fact like, I do wish like, you would have just given your boyfriend a chance to be like, hey, this is really inappropriate. Like, I'm going to go. I wish you would have had a chance. Did he not have that chance? I think she just kind of like left. I went out and just like gotten the Uber and left. Sounds like he wasn't there during this conversation. Oh, really? Like, he was outside maybe cooking, hanging with dad. Interesting. Whatever. Maybe she's helping mom in the kitchen and she looks the app her way. I do wish you would have given him the chance to respond. Like, I think you would want to know. Yeah, I would have a boyfriend problem based on him being like, she was just trying to get to know you. You already have a boyfriend problem, not just his mom being an issue, but if he would have stood by you more in the moment before you left, like, then I would have been like, okay, like, you know, boyfriend's a good guy. He's standing up for you. Mom's crazy. Right. But at least, you know, now you know, and he can set some boundaries with her. Yeah. But that's not the case. Now he's taking his mom's side for this absurd crazy thing. And no, I think, I think you hawksick like triangle to get into like, now mom's crying. She's like, oh my god, I can't believe this happened. Why'd she get so upset with me? They're in mesh. We all know that. You all were hearing it in your head before I even said it. I've held off for quite some time saying that now, you guys, because we were doing research, because we're on the ground doing research. We're on the ground doing research. But I think like you chalk this up and you run the other way. This is a unique experience that you have for the books. You know what to avoid. Hopefully this comes up a lot sooner and other relationships. If it comes up again and is not a unique experience, but I really, this one's not worth being around. Like the mom is genuinely, if you're getting this goofy, the first time you met her, imagine what kind of mother-in-law you will have to deal with the rest of your life if you choose to proceed that down this path. The audacity, the like, no, I can do whatever I want. Like I can't imagine that that would ever get better. It would just get crazier and crazier over time. Well, and the fact that he, like, I'm looking at his response and getting so mad, he said she should have just played along to keep the peace. Right. So he knows what she did. Then he's still as taking his mother's side. Yeah. And it's like, why do I have to talk about my intimate experiences? Because some of them are intimate. Like if you go down and look at the questions, yeah, we can laugh about the holding hands. Then pregnancy scare and like a lot of intimate personal questions. Yeah. Questions that honestly violate hip-hop. You violate hip-hop. That would be such a funny response. I'm sorry, but this violates hip-hop. Like come on. So I think at that point, it's like, no, I'm not going to entertain someone basically harassing me and violating my privacy and being completely inappropriate. That is none of your mother's business. Do you want me to go into detail about how I suck your dick with your mom? Oh, in that time I fingered your butt hole. Yeah, should I tell your mom that? Like, why would she even want to know about that? I like would not want to know because she wants to fuck her son. Oh, she wants to know exactly what her son is doing. She's going to live vicariously through this purity test. Oh my god. It might be a reach. Okay. That might be a reach. But it's it's gross. And I think you need to break up and inappropriate. It has to stop. The top comment on Instagram. What's worse than a boy mom? A religious fanatic boy mom. Run. Next comment. He took his mom's side. He always will. Next one. How is he not furious as mom for being embarrassing? Also, people need to stop misusing that word. A fart at dinner is embarrassing. This is just way out of line. Batshit crazy behavior. Yeah. I will say the Instagram comments. They're a little more rambunctious than what we see on Reddit these days. I know I do like the Instagram comments. Batshit crazy. It's so entitled and inappropriate and wrong. I just got to lost for words. Yeah. If he can't take your side in such an obvious situation like that, you are signing yourself up for a world of disappointment and being left out to dry. Yeah. Okay. This next one. Coming from our very own two outtake subreddit. Seven days old. Seven days. Yeah. Tidled. My ex posted a happy anniversary with me six months after we broke up. I'm obsessed with this. So my ex and I broke up in April. It wasn't messy, but it wasn't exactly peaceful either. He wanted to focus on himself, which was code for flirting with girls on Discord. Anyways, fast forward and now, November. About seven months. And one of my friends sends me a screenshot from his Insta story. Quote, happy three years. Love you forever with a picture of us from 2022. I actually thought it was a throwback or something, but no, he literally captioned it like we're still together. We haven't spoken since the breakup. I'm not blocked or anything, just ignored. So now I'm sitting here getting texts from mutual friends asking if we got back together. And I'm like, what alternate reality is this man living in? I don't know if it's to make me look like I still care or to make him look like he's the loyal one who never moved on. But either way, it's weird. Like dude, we broke up half a year ago. You can't just retroactively celebrate an anniversary that doesn't exist. Part of me wants to respond with happy delusion day, but I'm being good. At first, I was like, oh, this is so funny. This is so crazy. And I'm like, is this scary? Yeah. Like I think it might be a little bit scary because obviously someone having delusions that involve you. Is a scary situation to be in. Sure is. I have one friend, my friend Ellie, her ex posted like on her birthday, happy birthday to my favorite ex, which was already crazy. But this is so much crazy. Ellie, what the heck? They're like friends. It's just that it's like objectively a hilarious thing to post. But yeah, like I don't know if like does is he having some kind of health, like mental health problem? That's what I'm getting. Is he actually, you know, or is this more of like a scary stalker type situation? Or is he like, I don't like a secret third option that I'm trying to think of? It is really for me. I'm like, it's giving mental health crisis and just like, okay, something is really up here and he needs some help because the delusion you broke up. Yeah. What'd you say seven months? Like seven months? You broke up in April. It's not November. And we've been broken up for half a year over, over half a year. And you're posting a three year anniversary. We're not together. Yeah. So who are you trying to impress? It's not me. And if you're not trying to impress someone, it's pure delusion. Right. More than anything if someone's lying about being in a relationship, it's usually like pretending that they're not in one so that they can hook up with people. I know. I don't see what the upside of pretending you are still in a relationship with somebody is. Maybe the flirting on Discord hasn't worked out. And so now he's just trying to like, that's so cool. Yeah. To the other guys, he plays Discord with. Oh, yeah. Like, I've got a girlfriend. Yeah, I got this hot girl. Like, like, he's probably telling all these discord people. Like, oh, no, no, no, like, I'm not hitting on you. I have a girlfriend. Right. Because the other thing that's confusing to me is this isn't preceded by any like, he's been texting me, trying to get back together or, you know, he's texted me as if things were normal before. He's shown up at blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, this isn't like over the last seven months, he's been trying to keep that relationship still going. It's like out of nowhere. He's posting this. So that's why it feels kind of performative in his sense. It does. It's performative is a really good word for this. Yeah. And yeah, maybe that is it. Maybe it's about these discord people. Maybe he's trying to be like, well, I have a girlfriend anyway. Maybe he was rejected and everyone knows that on discord. And he's like, well, I'm fine. I've still got, I've still got somebody. I don't know either way. Hopefully, it's more like that because that makes it less of a threat to her, I feel true. It's like, okay, my ex is crazy and he's not succeeding at finding women after we've broken up. But I don't know. I don't know either. It's really weird though. So let us know. I know. Keep us posted on this. I would respond knowing me. I'd be like, yeah, hey, curious about this. We're not together. Right. Like, what can you take this down? Like, I wouldn't want that up there even. Yeah. Like, you can tell your friends and everyone will know and you can kind of clear the air. But at the same time, like, I also wouldn't necessarily want that out there. I'd be like, what's going on? Why are you like, what's going on? Why are you like, what's going on? Why did you say that? And then you can also figure out if there is a threat. Right. Like, is he going through a mental health crisis? Is he delusional? Could he show up? Like, could something bad happen? Or like, is he just trying to look like he's got game? Right. Or did he lose a bet? Did he get dared? Like, did he? Oh, yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to think of any other possible reason. That's a really good point. It's so weird beyond. I hope she asks him and then tells us. That's what I need. I need to know how this played out. Let me see if there is an update. So top comment on the post. Not going to lie. That is fucking weird. Yeah. That's unhinged behavior. Says the next comment. You can't celebrate an anniversary with someone who's not even in the relationship anymore. Go down you for keeping a classy. He's clearly doing enough embarrassing for the both of you. Someone goes exactly an anniversary with who? You can't be in a relationship by yourself, buddy. It's called daydreaming. Not dating. I'm not seeing any comments. No update to the post. So please let us know. Mark yourself safe for us, please. I know. It's very, very odd because there's such a spectrum of possibilities here. Like, the least concerning being like this was some dare or this was like, I don't know, lost a bet. I don't know. Worst is he is having delusions that he's still with you and could get violent. Yeah. He was supposed to please. And I don't know. Definitely a unique experience. Like, usually it's not getting pictures post of you once you've broken up. Like, right. I just said, I don't know. I've heard of like, let's hear still friends and hanging out. Yeah. That's so different. But you're broken up and he's posting for your anniversary. Like, what's happening? Yeah. I've heard of like trying to get someone back and posting. Like, I miss you like, like crazy, you know, like Facebook posts of, I miss what we had. But not pretending that you're still together. That's where it's like, well, it is going on here. Yeah, it's a bit perplexing. It is a bit perplexing. I'm confuddled by it. Yeah. Biffuddled even. Yeah. So am I by this next one? Is it beef fuddling? That's a big word. Is it beef fuddling? Biffuddling? Could be a theme. Biffuddling. Dating can be scary. Biffuddling, voyage into the unknown. Confusing or perplexing. Biffuddling. I'm befuddled. So this is coming from our friend Charlotte Dobre's page. It is titled, Am I overreacting for throwing out all of our soap after finding out how my boyfriend actually washes himself? Now I'm scared. So I, 26 female, don't even know how to start this without gagging. This happened earlier this week and I'm still going through waves of disgust and disbelief. My boyfriend, 28 male, and I have been together for about a year now. We recently moved in together about three months ago. Before that, we'd spend weekends together, but I never really paid much attention to how he showered. I guess I just assumed he was like everyone else. Soap, Lufa, wash cloth, maybe body wash, maybe even one of those fancy shower puffs. You know, normal hygiene. So scared. But oh, how wrong I was. So around this Monday, he had been feeling sick the night before. Some bad food, he said. I woke up to him rushing to the bathroom. Poor guy had a bad case of diarrhea. No big deal. He took a shower afterwards and I didn't think twice about it. I had showered earlier that morning and by the time he was done, I was already half asleep. So I didn't go in there again. The next morning, I got up to take my shower. I pick up our shared bar of soap and saw boo-boo chunks on it. His boo-boo chunks on it. This was actually worse than I meant than I imagined it could be. I gagged so hard I almost threw up. I dropped the soap immediately, turned off the water and just stood there trying to process what the hell I was looking at. When I finally called him over, I asked him what the hell happened to the soap. He looked confused. I explained what I saw and he goes, quote, oh yeah, I took a shower last night after I went to the bathroom. I probably didn't rinse the soap off right. Dude, what? And then that's when I learned something that made me question everything about this man. He doesn't use a washcloth or a lufa or a body brush or even his hands in a lathering way. He literally takes the bar of soap, wets it, wets himself with the shower hose and rubs the bar directly all over his body from head to toe, including his armpits, his dick, his ass, and apparently after having diarrhea. I didn't even know what to say. I just stood there horrified, replying every single time I'd used that damn bar of soap on my own lufa or washcloth. So the next day, my first thought was to throw away every bar of soap we had and both of shared leaving just my body washes in the shower. When he saw me doing this, he got defensive. He asked why I was overreacting and said I was making a big deal out of nothing. I told him I wasn't comfortable sharing soap anymore because now that I know what he's been doing, it's just nasty. I didn't shame him. I just said, I didn't realize that's how you washed and I can't share a bar like that again. He got quiet and said, so you think I'm dirty? I told him no. I think the shit that you put on our soap is dirty. I think the shit that I can see on our soap might be. I told him no, but that his method is unsanitary. Which I mean, come on, it's objectively gross. Especially if you're using the same bar that touches your butthole in private parts, then it sits there collecting whatever didn't rinse off like the poop chunks. He didn't storm out. And a few hours later, I got a call from his sister asking me why I embarrassed him and made him feel like a disgusting person. Apparently, he told his family about it. His mom texted me something like, men have been using bars of soap for generations. What? You're making it sound filthy. Why is this becoming like a traditional like this? Am I insane for thinking this is different though? Like, yes, people use bar soap, but most people don't literally rub it between their cheeks and then put it back for someone else to use. Now, he's been giving me the cold shoulder and his family things. I'm some germ obsessed neat freak who humiliated him over a piece of soap. So for second opinions, am I overreacting? This made me physically ill, Morgan. I already feared what this situation could be from the title. And it was so much worse somehow. Like, this is a health hazard. She could have gotten some kind of like in pink eye. Yeah, like a bacterial infection. Also, he has food poisoning. That's why the diarrhea is there. Like, you are sick, sir. Yeah. And you use that bar of soap as a douche. He was doshing his asshole with the bar of soap. Like, I don't feel okay. Like, this isn't okay. The fact that there were chunks on that. No. Chucks. No. She can only ever, while she's dating him, use body wash now with a sense of peace. Like, I body wash with a pump. I would, yeah, I would immediately feel like I need to bleach my entire body. Like, I don't know how, like, this would make me feel very ill. Like, I'm trying to think, okay, movies, like in movies and things like I've taken a personal bar of my soap and I've like took the soap bar on my armpits before. Yeah, I would never put that soap bar up my ass. And it's not a dirty, dirty ass. I ever shared granite armpits are gross too. So I don't know. Like, I'm like, is this a thing? Is this a common way to use the bar of soap? Because like, does the soap kill germs as it sits there? Because it is soap. Can soap grow germs like a petri dish or a soap kill germs? Like, do we have to be this scared? But it's the fact that this bar of soap is shared. Yeah. It's a shared bar of soap. And there's a visible shit on it. And there's visible shit on it. Like, how do you get past that? You didn't look after you stuck that bar of soap in between your ass cheeks. You didn't look. You didn't give it a, like a good wash, a rinse. Like, okay, you're gonna rub that soap on your armpits, but then give the soap bar a wash. You know what I mean? I think even if someone does sometimes use a bar of soap directly on their skin, it is common sense to not put it between your butt cheeks. That. Because even if it's a purse, it's genitals, that's like really amplifying this. Yes. And even if it's a personal soap bar, you wouldn't even want that for yourself. You'd be like, oh, I shouldn't probably put my soap on on some shit. And then just like, use it for the rest of my body again the next day. Like, even if he's not sharing it, like, I think you still in your head, you're like, I'm not gonna do it like that. Oh, maybe this is an issue. Because didn't he wipe his butt after pooping on the toilet? Or did he just go from diarrhea to toilet flush shower? That's my fear Morgan. That's what I'm really scared of. Like, why are there chunks still? Like, why didn't you at least give a like a one wipe? So you're not dripping shit as you walk to the shower. I understand to feeling embarrassed and like, I don't know. But sometimes you do something that just is embarrassing. Yeah. I mean, Justin's caught me picking my nose here and there. Like, if you're not picking your nose, you're lying about picking your nose. That's be real. Like, there's some things you just can't get with a tissue. Not the same thing Morgan. But I know what it's like when he's like, when he called me out or whatever, and he's like, did you just pick your not like, I suppose I see that. But like, that feeling of embarrassed or feeling gross. And maybe this is something he's dealt with before. But okay, let's address it between the two of you. The fact you're crying to your family. You're crying to your whole family. And what did you tell your family? Did you tell them you left shit chunks on our soap? Yeah. And like, yes, she's throwing them out. Like, sorry. Get new soap. This isn't this like oppressive act toward you. She's throwing out the soap that she found covered in shit. I don't know what else she was supposed to do. You can go to the dollar store, the 99 cent store, the dollar general. You can go many places and get new soap. I don't care. Like, men have been used bars of soap for generations. It's weird. It's weird. You're not overreacting. This is gross. Yeah. And I think I also don't think she said anything like mean to him. No, I think she was shocked. It was like, what like, what have we been living in? Like, what's been going on? I think anyone would freak out if they walked into their bathroom and went to go shower and get clean. And there was poop all over their soap. Yeah. That's a normal reaction. And like, I can't see without my context in. And I don't shower with my context in. So like, I, oh my god, that would be a really surprise. I wouldn't know right away. Like, I don't want to think about it anymore. It's bad. Yeah. Top comment. Since he brought his family into this, then there's no reason why you can't absolutely be truly honest. The problem isn't that he uses the bar on his bare body. It's the fact that he uses the bar of soap directly onto his rectum to clean off diarrhea. And that left chunks of poop on the bar soap. That is the issue. Yeah. Yeah. And he thinks that that's normal. And he thinks that that's fine. So that means it's a recurring thing. Yeah. You are gross. Like, it's not gross that you use the bar of soap on your body. It's gross that you left shit on the bar of soap. Yeah. Now, tell that to his mom and sister since they wanted to confront you about his hurt feelings. And just so you know, not only is he disgusting leaving the poop on the bar of soap, but he is immature and runs to mommy and his sister to cry about his hurt feelings. Those two points are very unattractive in a man. And I definitely couldn't see myself being with someone like that long term. Yeah. That's the, that's like what I was like really trying to get out here. Yeah. This maybe wouldn't have been such a big deal. And I get being defensive. You can be defensive and be hurt and be embarrassed and whatever. But the fact that you took this problem and you ran to outside sources and involved them in it and then had those sources come back and chirp at me. Yeah. And try to make sure you look bad. And the bad person. I'm not the bad person here, babe. Yeah. This is all over just a bar of soap. It's easily rectified. Hey, you didn't know. You didn't know that you shouldn't wash that way. Yeah. By the way, lufas are also disgusting. Yeah. Lufas harbor bacteria. I don't think a lufa is any better than just using the bar of soap. But I think there's a way that you could have cleaned without degrading the bar of soap that we shared. However, not an issue. Well, throw it away. We'll get new soap. This is how you should operate going forward. Yeah. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Get a bit day. I was surprised by the poop on the soap. Yeah. Get a bit day. Am I right? Yeah. Hey, a bit day, a chitafa. That would do a lot for them. Whatever you're feeling. He would probably like that because he seems to like this like, you know, not like at the dry cleaning method so much. He seems to like go on the wet cleaning method. I just the the fact that he had that big of chunks. Like what what are we doing? What are we doing? Did we not wipe? We did not wipe. That is the thing. But that is what we're doing. We did not wipe. Yeah. I did not wipe. I can hardly stand it. And I'll tell you that. It's gross. Okay, moving on to this next one. This is coming from R-slash Am I overreacting? It is titled Am I overreacting for getting pissed that someone had sex in my truck at the dealership? I'll make this short, but I can always add more as this is a long story. My new truck developed a leak just under 12 k miles. So I scheduled an appointment at the dealership. After three weeks, I get it back with a horrible smell inside with a driver's seat that clearly has ass cheek stains, not swamp ass as it has been cold here. My interior door is scratched probably from a wedding ring. There is a stain on the seat that looks like the woman enjoyed herself. There is a stain on the floor. There is a shoe print on my headliner. Make up on the visor and headliner. Deep finger indents on a solid visor. I also found a hair tie and a hair clip in my console. That is definitely not mine. The dealership refused to take any accountability and blamed me for the condition, even though it was not like this when I dropped it off. My windows are blacked out as well. I should add that I'm single and I work from home. So there is a 0% chance it's from me or a cheating partner. After I brought it to the dealers attention, they cleaned it, but did a poor job so I had to clean it again by a professional. Am I overreacting? First of all, those people went crazy. Good for them. It sounds like they had fun. Oh my god. All the details of the positions and the indents and the wedding rings scratched. They went at it. This is on a porn site somewhere. Yeah, he could find the evidence probably if he searches hard enough, but I wouldn't recommend it. You're going to see a lot of shit. Like that? No, that is disgusting. That should have been taken more seriously by the dealership. I don't understand how they could dismiss it so easily. That needs a serious clean job. That's disgusting. You can't just wipe it off a little bit. No, in the fact he's noticing all of this because of a horrible all caps smell. Oh god, I forgot that part. Yeah. There's probably used condoms somewhere lost in there down the crack in between the seat and the console. And they should take it seriously because it's like this could be a repeated employee problem that you have. Like you need to do some internal investigations. Like this isn't okay behavior. This is gross. I feel like that's one thing. Like, and I got people don't want to get sued. People don't want to lose money. So it really like has become this deny gaslight gatekeep. Like it has kind of become that attitude with customer service. Like you don't want to fully cop to it. Yeah. Like, no, no one did anything. You brought it to us like that. Well, clean it because we are kind. We're so kind. But we're not cleaning it because we admit that we did that. Exactly. And yeah, I just saw this post from a woman also on Reddit. And she was like, am I overreacting? Like my dog got back from the groomers and like his teeth are knocked out. This lady was like, I took my dog to the same groomers. He's been going to for five years. Like since he was a puppy, they told me that he bit the blow dryer. And so his teeth are loose now. She ends up taking this dog to the vet. It's jaw is broke. And so she's like, they're clearly lying to me. And a bunch of people in the comments like one of which is a vet tech was like, Oh, yeah. Like the dog probably fell off the table. Hit hit it's jaw and broke its jaw. Like, that's the force needed. They're lying to you. And it's like, because like honest, biting something is going to break its jaw. Like dogs are always biting things. They're biting bones. Honest because if that woman would have believed you and gone home, that dog, that dog would have been living with a broken jaw. Yeah. In pain. Yeah. Like this dog needs medical care. Don't lie. Like, yeah, these businesses have insurance for a reason. Your insurance is going to cover an accident. Will your insurance go up? Yeah. But that is the risk you take running a business and maybe not paying attention to the dog as you should have. Maybe not ensuring that dog's safety. That is your fault, though. Yeah. And I feel like, I do feel like obviously there are going to be some cases where people get you, like they hear you admit something and they take it all the way. But I think in general, where businesses get like bad reviews and bad reputations is if they don't actually handle concerns seriously. And they try to like avoid and pretend it wasn't their fault and kind of like gaslight you about it. Because even if something happens like employees have sex in your car, if they just fully say, I am so sorry, I don't know how this happened. We don't have any footage of this happening. But I understand why you feel like it must have happened here. We'll fully take care of any cleaning service. Like, like there is such a way like people appreciate that. And this whole like evasive thing, it like it doesn't build any trust. Like that person's never going to go back there. No. There's like something that's going around to on TikTok right now that's gone pretty viral. So maybe some of you have seen it. But it's this girl who like set her phone up outside of like a random shop and she was trying to get like a video of her outfit. She's carrying a Duncan coffee cup. And the woman of the shop, it's like, it must be a coffee shop bakery is like, really? You're going to take that video here with the Duncan in your hand. And the girl is like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. Like, didn't cross my mind. Like, I'm so sorry. She goes in buys a pastry because she doesn't need a coffee. She's got a coffee. So she buys a pastry. And then the woman does not let her stay in that shop kicks her out. After buying the pastry because she has the Duncan, we don't allow outside beverages. And it's like, she just came in your store. Yeah. And gave you business. She realized she might have been being a little rude, which she was on a fucking sidewalk like get real. Yeah. But she realized maybe, hey, maybe I shouldn't have done that. When inside bought something and then you kicked her out. Yeah. So the girl made a video about it. Obviously. And the lady is like, oh my god, freaking out. And it's like, that's just not how you treat people. No. Who cares if she's kind of Duncan? Initially, I was like, did the lady think that she was like making some kind of this video by being like, oh, like, my Duncan is so much better. No, she literally went in and tried to support. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. She's like a small little cafe. Like, if you would have played that cool, like, if you would have been like, hey, my coffee's better than Duncan. Come on in and try some. Yeah. You would have looked great. Yeah. Who doesn't love free coffee? But customer service, like, I need to kick in the butt, I think. I guess. Yeah, it's tough. And it's like, necessarily the people, it's like, it's the companies. Yeah. Companies aren't getting it. And I, yeah, what was the original sex in the car? Yeah. We do get an update. Oh, we get some updates on this way. No way. Yeah. Brief update called the police. They won't take a police report as it's a civil matter. All they could do was document that I called this happened at redacted in Surprise, Arizona, 85388. And another Reddit member told me my one star review is already gone from their Google reviews. Oh my god. Which I don't feel like people should be able to do that. It shouldn't. It's actually really hard to like, I don't know, even sometimes fake batteries can be hard to remove. I know. It's crazy. The general manager called me today, which was useless. He wanted to know if the other manager called me, which he did. They're both passing off responsibility on each other. I called corporate this past Saturday and issued a complaint, but I was advised not to expect anything out of it as that falls on deaf ears. I will be taking to social media and uploading video pictures and audio recordings taken while dealing with this terrible business. Apparently, OP did post pictures. Oh my god. So we have some pictures. Oh my god. So here's the seat. Oh my god. Like it honestly, that looks like it looks like someone had a yeast infection and like it's like, it's like chalky residue on their seat. Yeah, why does it look like that? I think that's what he's calling the aspirin. Because that's where you could have sex in a car and get away with it. There's like full blown jizz. Okay. Yeah. That's like jizz. Yeah. All over his floor mat. Oh my god. Does that blood? Oh my god. Look at the hand prints. These are like fucking crazy hand creases. Like this person was like gripping, like they were hanging off a cliff. Yeah. There's no way that you wouldn't have seen that. That looks like blood. I think there's blood. So or lipstick. Yeah. Maybe she was on her period or there's lipstick like on the visor on the roof of the car. Like it is pretty bad when you look at the pictures actually. I got and if they I feel like if the car company had been more like forthcoming and no issue. Kind about it. It wouldn't have gone to the places it's going now. No issue. I was going to say like with the Google remove Google review removing thing, they will remove any review that has like profanity in it. So I don't know if like it mentioned the sex or anything like that. And it just automatically gets flagged by Google for that. Maybe there's like certain things. Rules. We have to be careful. I know. That's true. Or if it like defames certain individuals at the company. Yeah. The thing is though too. Like the dealership should have handled this because like if that is blood, that's a biohazard. Yeah. That's a biohazard. Like that's disgusting. Being kind goes a long way. So we get another update. No way. Six days ago, I posted about my bizarre situation. After reading a majority of the comments here as well as social media, I dug deeper in defining reviews on this dealership. There were hundreds of negative feedback across multiple sites about damage to customers vehicles and or financial fraud by patting loans without customers consent or knowledge and other shady things. Oh my god. The day after making my post, the sales manager at the dealership called me to basically tell me it's the general managers responsibility. So this call was pointless. The following day, the general manager calls me and basically tells me it's the sales manager's responsibility. But he would call me back tomorrow or the following day. Neither manager ever called me back. Yesterday I filed a complaint with BBB, better business bureau and with the attorney general with my story. Today, someone from the dealership called believe it's customer relations and they told me they received my complaint from the attorney general and they would like to fix the damaged items in my truck. Oh, now you do. I told him I need a new driver seat, a new rear seat cover, new visor and a new door panel on my driver's door. He said that's fine and I can bring it in. Yeah, because you're scared now. I kindly replied that there is absolutely no way I'll be back at their dealership. So he told me they contract with a third party company that comes to the customers homes to do the repairs. I agreed to that and now I'm waiting on the third party repair company to call me to schedule it. I'm hoping all goes well, but honestly, I'm not holding my breath. Okay, also said they can reverse the thousands of dollars of add-ons that I never agreed to if my electronic signature is attached. I wouldn't know because they still have never given me copies of me asking for nine months. There's definitely going to be at least one more update regardless of what happens with the repairs. Thank you for the suggestions. It's given me the motivation and knowledge to get results and then included more pictures of the truck seats, which same ones we saw already. This is like the scratches on the back seat. Oh my god. Guys, these are very obvious scratch marks. These are deep scratch marks. I've never even seen that from an animal. To be honest, I'm actually very curious. It's almost like when they were having sex, they were getting off on the fact it would be obvious that they had sex there. That was part of the enjoyment for them. Yeah, no, they definitely wanted to leave their mark. So we have another update. There's a lot of updates on this one. I didn't know until we got here. 10 days ago, I posted the first update, a correction last update. It was not the customer service relations that called me. It was a senior partner at the dealership. He told me that the seat's door panels and visor would be replaced shortly after posting that update. I received multiple calls from multiple employees saying that replacement was never discussed and that they will clean it up. That I misunderstood the senior partner. I recorded the call and I certainly did not misunderstand. The general manager has been calling me every couple of days telling me their third part of your pair company will be contacting me to clean my truck. I've consistently said I'm not in need of a cleaning. That cleaning it will not remove the damage. And one of the calls with the GM, he suggested swapping my truck to a new one and I accepted the offer. Shortly after the sales people called me wanting to do a trade-in, which will cost me thousands of dollars on a loss on my new truck. So obviously I refused. The GM implied it was a simple swap, not a typical trade-in where they profit selling two vehicles. Yesterday I got a call from the third party company and sent pictures of the issue. He confirmed the seat cannot be repaired and must be replaced as well as the visor and door panel. He informed me that he will tell the GM and I should expect him to call me. Still waiting. This would piss me off. Because now this goes beyond just repairing the things that you broke because it's taking so much time, it's taking so much work and after a job. You need to actually compensate me above and beyond the damage that you've done. Now it's my time. And it could be a biohazard. What am I being exposed to? Yeah. This looks like blood. It's disgusting. There's the jizz on the rug. You guys like just wait. I received a response from the dealership on BBB saying they are working it out with me. They are not working anything out. There's just a recent my time. Call me every couple of days. Trying to get me to agree to a simple cleaning. I'll give it until Tuesday for action. Then I'll be taking the next steps to make this illegal issue. New update. Wow. So this new update is coming from this past June, three months after the original post. So I bought a new Ford Maverick in Surprise, Arizona, 85388 at the only Ford dealership in town. So if you're out there listening, clear which one of this. I was extremely adamant about not having a service plan or low-joc, no add-ons, no extras, no upgrades whatsoever, except a factory added toe hitch. First red flag was when it eventually came in six months later. The dealer tried to charge me an absurd amount for dealer add-ons that weren't even on the truck. So obviously I refused that and they did me a favor and took off the cost. Next up in finance, I was repeatedly adamant about no service plan and no low-joc. It was nowhere in any of the forms I signed and I read every word. I was in there for hours and they were annoyed with me. So they said that neither will be on my loan and they'll email me the electronic copies. I never received them. I get my loan paperwork in the mail weeks later and I was shocked to see nearly 4,000 more than what I had signed for. Oh my god, this company. It took months and it doesn't have calls to the dealer but they refunded a majority of the service plan and they promised the low-joc would follow. But never did. Here we are a year later. I've reported them to the attorney general BBB corporate with zero results. They no longer take my calls or respond. They did eventually send my electronic forms a year later and they absolutely transferred my signature twice without my knowledge or consent fraud. There is zero chance I signed to these forms. I'm not the only one that has had fraudulent add-ons in surprise Arizona. If you did also message me, I may be taking legal action. A small update on the damages to my truck while it was in for warranty work. There refused to take accountability but I've heard from dozens of other people that they had bizarre unexplainable damages to their vehicle as well while it was in for service. I'm compiling evidence that this has been happening for years. I have audio recorded every single interaction with this company from the beginning. They are in such a deep hole and there is indisputable evidence of financial fraud not just on my loan but on others that have spoken with as well. So damn. So damn. So damn. That is insane. How are they getting away with this for so long? Oh my god. Unreal. Unreal. And it's crazy because they would like probably just keep getting away with this if they didn't do things that were so obvious. Like unavoidably obvious. Yeah. I am shocked by this. Ford used to be like synonymous with like a good deal, good value, good car. But like to go in and then like you're trying to get yourself in an affordable car and then you get a surprise $4,000 add on. Yeah. Fraud. That's just their con artist. That is insane. Yeah. It's really, really slimy. Yeah. And like not sending like the paperwork that you've signed and being like, oh, that guy didn't say this and that guy didn't say that. It's like I hope that this that this blows up on social media because that seems to be sometimes the only thing that people take seriously. I know. Completely unique experience. Quite odd. Yeah. I wonder how many people have had that happen to them and their car at the dealership. Clearly a few at that dealership. But I don't know if they've had the like sex, like the scratch marks and the gizz and the blood and the indents and the oh my god. I can't wait till you guys see these pictures. They're pretty. They're pretty damning. They're pretty. As far as evidence goes like that is some evidence. Well, in the fact he's already had that clean. Those are pictures like, like they're the thing. Well, those are probably taken before it was clean. But even the scratch marks. Yeah. Like the third party being like, yeah, no, we can't repair that. Like it's replaced only. Yeah. Like that's still there then. And even if you clean it, it's like how deep of the cleaning can you really get at the end of the day? Whoa. Yeah. You can't. And if like the foam was crushed or torn, like that's damaged to the foam or whatever material the seats and stuff is made out of. But that's just like so disheartening to like you spend your hard earned money on this brand new vehicle. And then by no fault of your own, it's extremely damaged. Yeah. Which should be such an exciting experience. Yeah. Really cool. And yeah. It's so sad when people are like, like just so rude about your property too. Like have you ever been in your car when someone doors you? I don't know. Oh my God. I was at, I don't even remember where like Nordstrom Rack or somewhere shopping. I'm sitting in my car, like getting ready to go out or I just got back in my car. Dude in a white Tesla rolls up whips his door into the side of my car. And I'm in there and I rolled in my window and I was like, are you fucking serious? Oh my God. I literally like I just instant rage. Yeah. And I'm like, are you fucking serious? And he just goes, sorry. And walks away. Well, give me your insurance ass hole. Oh my God. Oh my God. Fucking kidding me. I've been like, I had someone back into me and it was like, I honestly think it was like 18 year olds. And they were like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I was like, it's fine. And I drove away because my car is like so beat up that I was like, I'm not going to ruin their day. Oh my God. I know I had a person rear end me and it just was like too much for me to deal with. And it was like a tiny bumper's dense scratch. And I'm just like, I can't. My bumper is already so messed up that I was just like, I was my old car. I'm just like, uh, but if I had a new drive, best believe I would be like, hey, give me your insurance. Give me your insurance. Okay, moving on. We've got another one that's quite interesting. And I think you're going to get a kick out of. Yeah, I get kicks. I'm going to give you a choice. Okay. Oh, okay. Option one, bride uninvited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded. Yes, that one. That one. Are you sure? Okay, well, tell me I did that one. It was what I really into that one. Or my brother-in-law invited me and my husband to an orgy. That's really compelling too. But I think the psychic, like that's, I think I'm into the psychic thing right now. The psychic? Yeah. Okay. Sorry guys. I feel like they're going to want the other one. It'll be on Patreon. It'll be on Patreon. I'll give it to you next on Patreon. Perfect. That's how well-perfect. We'll remedy that one. Okay. So this is coming from our slash wedding shaming. Five days old. Bride invited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded. I'm still processing this. The wedding was supposed to be this Saturday in Asheville was supposed to be. My cousin Vanessa has always been in a spiritual stuff. Crystal's, tarot, astrology, whatever. Fine. Not my thing, but you do you. But about six months ago she started seeing this spiritual advisor who she treats like a therapist, life coach, oracle, all rolled into one. The wedding planning has been pretty normal up until last week. 200 people invited venue booked catering confirmed. I'm a bridesmaid. So I've been somewhat involved in the planning. Last Tuesday, Vanessa sends out a group text to the bridesmaids saying we need to have an emergency call. We get on Zoom and she tells us that she had a session with her psychic. And the psychic told her that having over 80 people at the wedding would disrupt the spiritual alignment of the union and create energetic blocks in the marriage. She said she and her fiance mat decided to cut the guest list down to 75 people two weeks before the wedding. We all kind of sat there in silence. Finally, one of the other bridesmaids asked how they were deciding who to uninvite. And Vanessa said the psychic helped her create an energy compatibility chart for all of the guests. Anyone who wasn't in alignment with their vibrational frequency got cut. This included Matt's entire extended family except his parents, most of Vanessa's co-workers, and about half of our family including my parents. My parents who already bought plain tickets and booked a hotel. Yeah, it's two weeks before. She sent out a mass email that night, not even individual messages. Just a group email that said something like, after deep spiritual consultation, we've decided to honor our authentic truth by creating a more intimate ceremony. If you have received this email, it means your energy is not aligned with our sacred union at this time. Please respect our journey. That's so crazy. People are losing their minds. Matt's mom called my mom crying. Multiple people are demanding their gifts back. Matt's brother posted something on Facebook about it. And Vanessa's response was to post a quote about releasing toxic energy. Oh my god. Here's the kicker. I didn't get uninvited. I'm still a little bridesmaid. But my parents aren't invited anymore. I asked Vanessa how that makes sense. And she said, your energy is evolved beyond your parents energy. It's not personal. I told her, I'm not coming if my parents aren't invited. And she said, that's my choice. But I'm choosing fear over love. Then she asked if I'm still doing my bridesmaid duties this week because they need help setting up. The wedding is in four days. Last I heard about 30 people have confirmed they're still coming. The venue won't refund to them because it's too late. Matt seems completely checked out. His family is furious. And Vanessa keeps posting Instagram stories about honoring your truth even when others don't understand. I don't even know if this wedding is still happening at this point. Have they joined a cult? It sounds like a cult. Already I do think that there are God, I even know someone who I don't want to give too much away. But they were like seeing somebody for one thing. And then that person started giving them advice on food and advice on like this and that and like life things. And it got to a place where it's like, why are you going to this person? Not a therapist, by the way, like about all of these things and they're like making the decisions about your life. And it's hard because I like want, I want to give people the freedom to like believe in what they believe in. And like if they're into a little bit of like a woo-woo type thing, that's okay. But like to this extent, no, this is absurd. This is someone who's like taking advantage of you because obviously like this has not made your wedding better. This is ruined your wedding. It's ruined the whole thing and like in relationship. It's hard to know because like some people do just like deeply believe in stuff and like I believe in the power of psychics and I believe in you know certain woo-woo things. But at the same time, I wouldn't let someone convince me like, oh, all of these people are negative and you need to cut half them out and you need to embrace people that are only on your frequency. But like at that point, I'd be like, oh yeah, no, this person is taking advantage of me. But like it does sound like a call. People do get sucked into calls. The other day, Kaelin was talking about Scientology and how like she accidentally like went through the courses and like literally paid for some of the courses and wait, how? What is it like she's got, she had to like disguise to something else. Yeah, she like got invited to hang out with a friend and the friend was like, oh, you're already here. You want to go to this meeting with me and it was a Scientology meeting. And so like I got when people can get into calls and like, oh totally, you kind of lose sight of like reality. But it's like it's hard to tell. It's like is it that? Is it a mental health crisis? Like why is the fiance so okay with this? Because if Justin woke up one day and was like, oh, we need to cut half the guest list. Yeah. I'd be like, what's going on? Let alone, oh, this is two weeks before the wedding. Our money's gone. Deposits have been paid. Everything's locked and loaded. Yeah. So what? It's such a negative place to start a marriage off of. And yeah, I mean, there are a lot of people, I think, who are susceptible to the kind of language that it uses or like, like, oh, you're a special person. You're in your so much more evolved than all these other people. And like, you should only be around xyz. And the reason that this hasn't worked out for you isn't your fault. But it's because of like these people not being good like that. Obviously, that sounds nice. And like people who are, you know, either experiencing a hard time with something or having insecurities about something like, it sounds very good to hear that. And actually, you're such a special person. Like, who doesn't as a child think that they're a special person? I don't know. It's tough. And I don't like blame the people who end up in those situations because I think it can happen to a lot of different people. It doesn't mean like, oh, if that happens to your your stupid. No, no, I think it's honestly, I think the past couple of years have really shown us how easy it is to fall into cults. And like, cults are cults because they're good at marketing and they know what language is going to suck people in. So I do think you can fall into a culture way of thinking and still be a smart person. Like, it's, yeah, it sucks though. It's because like, what do you do as a family member or as like, that bride's made? You don't go hell. No. Yeah. Hell. No. We then it's like, are you not giving them like, if they're getting, I guess we don't actually know that they're in a cult. But if they're getting like sucked into a situation where they need to still have people from their regular life to like try to logic with them, like is just cutting them off like, I know, because I think they say like you shouldn't cut people off, especially in times of crisis, but crises. But this might be the wake up call she needs because there hasn't really been a crazy thing like this. Yeah. So this might be the, oh no, your actions are going to have consequences. Enjoy your wedding. Oh my god. Wait, I saw a tweet today. Let me make sure this is real and that I wasn't looking at pop base or something like that. Kim Kardashian expresses her frustration and new TikTok vlog over psychics who told her she would pass the California bar exam only to fail. It's like, maybe it'll be a moment like that where it's like, okay, they clearly lied to me. Like, this isn't making my wedding better. But also this was so funny. Oh my god. I saw it today. I saw like, and this could be a rumor, but allegedly she used like chat GPT to study for the bar too. I think just like, girl, take out your fucking book. I think she actually said that she will ask chat GPT like law questions. It's like, you are not going to pass if you need to do that. Like, you should be the one knowing it. I don't know. I want to like, study the way she did where you just like study in your free time. Yeah, with like a private team. Yeah. Like I've like thought about that. Like now that I'm not doing OT, like what other side class can I kind of do? Like, that would just be interesting. I still want to take that civics class from Harvard with you. We talked about that. Oh, yeah. I want to do that. I like any kind of like archaeology type stuff. Like those are fun. Yeah. I've used it at X before and then you can do a bunch of different. Like, like, Harvard does classes through them. Like all types of colleges do classes with them. And a lot of them are free. And then if you want to get a certificate in it, you pay for like the certificate. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I just want to like, I know being a lawyer's hard. I know the bar is hard. Like Alejandra studying for her LSAT. Like that was insane. I want to like just take one just to like see the vibe. Like how bad to do a class or take the test. Just like a little LSAT. Just like how bad would you just a little L. I'm just like so curious what the questions are. Like the logic games were so insane. Interesting. I have no idea what it consists of. Besides like playing L Woods and Lee Gleiblon, the musical myself, we're year of high school. That's like the closest I know. Okay. L Woods. Easy. 175. I know she got 175 in the musical. No, I just like, I'm I'm a little bored right now. I'm finding that I need a hobby. Let's we can do it. Showing. I know. I did learn how to sew. Ish. Like I can turn on and press the pedal and do a straight line. So I need to like that's a huge start going to some classes. How is it really important? Just not the law school route. I don't have to I don't have time for that realistically. But I'm just curious about it. Yeah. Well, that's I think that's beyond like a hobby. That's like and I don't need it. Consume your life. I don't need it. I can read my basic contracts well enough and then I have a lawyer. So I'm fine. I'm just so curious. Like, yeah, this this little study on the side baby bar method. I'm just curious. I do think she is like spending a lot of time on it. I just don't think it's the same as like full time going to school. Yeah, I know very different. And clearly it's not working out for her. So no. Top comment on this one. Don't go to that wedding. Don't help. She's crazy. Tell her that she is bad energy for you. Oh, that speak her language a little bit. Try to communicate with her in a way she understands. I actually think your vibrations have been low lately. I think something about your oracle. She's disrupting your energy and it's not putting out what people would like to receive. I think I see a darkness coming out of your aura that wasn't there before. Maybe. Next comment down. And what kind of door mat allows his entire family to be cut from the guest list? Yes. His name was Matt. Oh, Matt. You know what? There was a guy I was talking to named Matt. And he had me put his name in my phone as not a door mat because I needed to hear that. I guess not a door mat. You needed to stand over yourself a little bit. A lot of comments just people like. So she thinks you'd still want to show up and provide free labor when you've said you won't come to the wedding. That's a new level of entitlement. Basically just like this guy has lost all sense of reality. I would love an update with this one. OP did delete the post. OP did delete their account. I bet they found it and it's become like a family drama. Yeah. Good old family drama. That's hard because if you're someone's bridesmaid, you're very good friends. And if I had a friend go through this, I would be concerned about them. Obviously there's the root of your at Aswell and you're being crazy. But it's also like, are you in a situation where this like oracle person is taking advantage of you? I would also do my best to try to reach them in a way. And I was going on to be like, Hey, I'm worried about you. This can't be good. I don't know. Something's got to give. Otherwise, I mean, that guy's got to call it. If she wants to live this spiritual life, then she can do it. But you're cutting off half your family for what? Like for her delusions? No. It sounds like he might also be kind of in it. Like it said that they they talked and they agreed on who they'd removed from the list. True. So I don't know. All of these have been incredible experiences. I don't think a single one of them is a unique experience that I'm jealous of. No. They all are completely unique experiences and thank God for that. Can't tell which one I'd keep the most. Oh God. I mean, I'm just like, I'm mad by them all like the Cardiarship one, the Cat one really set me off from the jump. That one was really brutal. Oh, all of them. That added me textbook. Do you remember where we were when that happened? That was like a lifetime ago. It feels like ages ago. Where were you when you first started that story? I wish I didn't hear it. I wish I could unhear some of these. But that's all I got you guys. We are headed over to Patreon with this very same theme. Some unique experiences. We've got some good ones. Again, just kind of crazy weird. I really like the story that we did on the bonus episode. I know they're really good. And one of these obviously that ITs is going to go over there. So I'm going to record that right now. But thank you so much for being here another episode and head over to Patreon if you want more. There is a free story one that ITs with, um, Sal. That's going to be over there as a free story. So come on over and join us. But other than that, until next time, bye.