EP 85: Wandering Wolf Returns | 2 Addicts & A Moron

Yeah, you know, like Lebanon, we were hiking up mountains, getting shot at. What? I'm not telling that story. That's not me. I'm going to go to Lebanon and we were up on the border of Syria. You know, being in the Andes altitude, you know, that'll kick your butt. Even if you're used to the altitude, the sun hits different up there. You get sunburned and then you're screwed. Well, I've listened to like you have sea fighters like when they go fight in Dubai. Yeah. How? Kabeem said like you need you should get there about a month early. Yeah. To get used to it. I think maybe when he fought. When he fought for a or are Gachi, one of the two. He said that they got there like a week before. Yeah, a week or a week and a half before. A week before. He did. And he knew that he was going to fucking tire. Yeah, he knew he was going to kill him. One of the first knew he's going to gas out after he took his best. One of the first trips I did was to Peru. And got into Cusco and. Are we going already? Yeah, we're going. But I'll do in the little intro here and I keep going, dude. Well, so we went to a one of my first trips to Peru and day one, I went and did. And I was on the way to. Rainbow Mountain, which is like 17,000 feet. And I thought I was going to die. Yeah, I straight up. Yeah. So they have donkeys and they follow you all the way up. Trying to sell you right on the donkey. Yeah. I was like, no. And then. You know, how do they follow you the whole fucking way? I didn't want to be a bitch. I was there with my girlfriend's girl. I was dating that time and two other girls. Yeah, I got this. I got this. So we finally were getting up close to the top and I was like, I don't care anymore. I feel like I'm going to die. I got on. It walked me like 50 feet and that was it. They couldn't take the horses. And so I they follow you up the whole way and they keep reducing the price. Yeah. The further up you go. I got you. So I paid like five bucks to ride a donkey like 50 feet. Yeah. Greatest five bucks. Yeah. I got a little breather. Yeah. Just the just appear like endorphins of like, oh, I'm cool now. Yeah. And then they're like, all right, get the fuck off. You're like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There's dogs that live up there just running around, loving it. You get used to it. But yeah, don't do that day one. No. No, you should not do that. Acclimate. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, the things you've learned on all of them. Yeah. So now if it's a long flight, like, you know, 15 minutes. 18 plus 28, you know, something like that. It's just crazy. I'll usually build in the first day of rest. Oh, yeah. Because I'm just kind of jet lagging on that bullshit. I just my body feels like it's just been smashed. Yeah. So I'm going to see like that. My knees smash up against the seats in front of me. If somebody leans their seat back, it's over. Yeah. Yeah. And they're going to. Everybody. It's a 20 hour flight. Yeah, you've got to. Yeah. There's no way around it. So that was my favorite part about COVID time. Because I was traveling. I kept traveling the whole time. I was traveling nonstop during COVID and it was amazing. It was nobody was flying. So I called it like poor man's first class because nobody was on the plane. Yeah. You'd get a whole row to yourself. Yeah. So just lay out everywhere I went and tickets everywhere were cheap. I was flying around the world for nothing. Yeah. And then the sites that I was getting to were like nobody was there. Yeah. That was my first big break was I traveled to Bolivia and filmed Puma Punku and Tiwanaku and nobody was there. I got a bunch of drone footage and I sold that to ancient aliens and then they kept buying footage from me. Oh, nice. So they kept playing putting my footage on their show for I don't know how many seasons and then. Yeah, that kind of helped me. You know, you had those milestones on YouTube. It's like just getting to a thousand. Oh, dude. Publishment. Yeah. Bro, we were at a hundred. We were like, yeah, yeah, 200. You got to celebrate the lens. Yeah. It's so yeah, we know what you're talking about. But it's like it feels like just getting to a thousand is a thing as a milestone. Oh, yeah. And then I think I stalled again somewhere around 30. And then we stalled at some different numbers too. Like we stole we're stalled right now. I stalled right now. 70s. Yeah. Yeah. We've been there for a minute. We're close to 80 right now, which is crazy because I was for like a year. I was gaining like a hundred plus. Yeah. A day. And then it just stops. Yeah, we were going, man, they they don't want to see us. No, man, the man wants to keep us down, bro. Well, they got their picks. I think we got a good intro here to our latest episode of two addicts and a moron. Welcome back, everybody. This guy is a second time guy. Two timer. And I got to tell you, I'm pretty nervous about it. And I'll tell you why in a second, I'm going to introduce you first. He has been nervous about this. Yeah. But ladies and gentlemen, Mike, the wondering wolf, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Good to be back guys. Good to see you. You go by Mike C or Mike. How do you do it? Is it? I know it's one. Mike's fine. Mike. One and wolf. If you're calling me Michael, I think I'm in trouble. Dude. Yeah. And you call me Joseph and I feel like my mom's about to kick my ass. Yeah. I'm like, oh, dude, I'm Joey. What I do. Like, yeah, like what the huh? Yeah. Yeah. So I've been nervous, man, about this one because when you come on the first time, it's much, we're always talking about the recovery or your story and recovery coming through the other end. When you come on the second time, it's much more of just a rap session. It's just a little bit where we're just like hanging out and talking because we've heard your story. We know that you're doing well and all of that, right? But you do some crazy smart guy shit, you know, like, might be giving me more credit. No. You're climbing inside of the pyramids and shit going to all kinds of crazy places. So it was like, I need to be able to like hold serve with you, like to keep a conversation and I know you're a good guy and a cool guy. And I was telling you before your videos are so cool to me because they're cool. The footage is awesome. All of that's awesome. But I really started paying attention to the narration of it and how even do a novice or a guy that's never been there, how, how relatable and how much it does not go over my head when you're talking about it. Like it's always very, very, very narration or voiceover stuff. The voiceover stuff. Yeah. The voiceover stuff is when you're voicing everything over. Yeah. It was a lot easier to follow for a guy like myself. You know, I appreciate that. I think, you know, a lot of the I really want to be different in this space from the beginning that my, my hope was to make content that was inspiring and encouraging and just share my sense of wonder. And I hope that's translated in the videos is that when I met these places, just places how excited I am and happy I am to be there. Because, you know, like, I never would have envisioned this life for myself. Yeah. So I'm, I am incredibly grateful. So I really want to, you know, express that and share that with people and hopefully encourage other people to like travel because it'll change you traveling changes you. It makes you view the world differently. It makes you view people differently. It makes you very appreciative for the things that you do have because you see all different types of all walks of life. Yeah, man. Yeah. And you realize where you actually fit on the scale worldly. Yeah. Yeah. Compared to 90% of people out there. Yeah. If you know, if you're living in America, you're, you're doing great. I don't care how bad you've got it. If you're living here, you're doing amazing compared to 90% of the rest of the world. Yeah. And so it really shifts your perspective and makes you really grateful. It makes you, made me really appreciative of people. And then I want to talk to people like that too, because I'm honestly not as interested in trying to figure out all the, like an answer. Right. I, I, not that I'm don't like getting answers to things like the ancient history stuff, but I'm not trying to like present hypotheses and. No, you're never doing that. I'm not trying to make things. No. But I want to show people something in a way that they can. Come up with their own conclusion. Yeah. I'm not trying to influence thought. Yeah. Like I have the answers. But I hope and I'm doing people along for the experience. I think you, I think you influence that. That's, that's, it's, you can't help that. Yeah. By doing what you're doing, right? Yeah. And again, you're a curious guy. You're a sense of wonder. Yeah. In these places you're like, whoa, and then you've been there multiple times now. Yeah. And it's, um, so I was watching the video of you and Cairo with some of your friends. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I do have to let you know that I got a writer and a producer. Yeah. So, uh, okay. Um, there was more on screen time. That's me talking. Obviously. Yeah. That's cause it's very vlog ish. But the last couple have been written by my writer K who's a total boss and Sammy behind the screen doing an editing and filming. Um, so we've grown. Yeah. But, um, but pretty much everything pre the last several videos has been me for years and years and years. And then we're changing a few things up. Some of that's kind of in flux right now. Okay. So, um, I was like, okay, just had a baby. So, you know, we're, we're figuring all that out. And, uh, but, um, you know, really trying to keep this vibe of like the wonder, you know, like an Anthony Bourdain type. Yeah. But just focused on going to ancient sites. Right. But it was there. Like I, and the cool thing about that one was you made a comment in there where it was like, I've been here, but seeing their faces see it for the first time was what, yeah, it was that that's what was like, take on you the most at this point. Yeah. Cause that was our, that was an Egypt tour. Yeah. So hosted some doing tours now. And that's been one of my favorite parts is seeing people's reactions to coming up on these things that they've never experienced before. The pyramids you're standing in front of this thing that encompasses every bit of your view. Yeah. And it's just like, what the hell man? Like, you know, you can see it on camera and all these different things, but seeing it in person is just always mind boggling. Yeah. Watching people, we did a tour to Peru watching the people's experience doing that was amazing. And then, um, you know, we did some stuff in Peru that was pretty difficult. Machu Picchu is this trail that goes up to this really high point. It is not easy. It is tough. It's a really tough climb. And, um, some of the people when they got to the top were just so exhausted and then overwhelmed and you're, and then they're immediately treated to this. What, what are the most beautiful views? Excuse me. And everybody was crying, getting together and having this really emotional experience together. Not me. I wouldn't cry. You're like, pussies. But, uh, I, you know, feeling like I'm providing a space for that. I mean, wow dude. Like that makes me feel like I'm doing it. Like I'm accomplishing something I set out to accomplish. Yeah. When you first started doing it, what was your goal? Like when you started going to these ancient, ancient sites, what, what made you go to these, in the beginning, like what made you say, you know what I want to go? Well, there was, there wasn't like, I just happened to be dating this girl and I had gotten so I was getting sober. It's like an off and on process, you know, and, uh, we traveled and the first ancient site I ever went to was Suxi, Vermont and Peru. And, um, I just immediately just, holy shit. Yeah. I have to, this is what I have to do. Yeah. This is what I'm supposed to do. So you had no thoughts of this is what I'm going to start doing. You just got there and was like, dude, I want to be, I want to do this shit. You know, I did, I did take a GoPro with me. So I knew I was going to like try to film something. Yeah. This was all very cobbled together back then. Yeah. You know, you're trying to get sober. You don't, you don't know what you're doing, man. Yeah. You know, yeah, dude. I know my asshole from, you know, I don't, so it was just kind of this idea, I guess. And, um, when I got there, I just immediately knew I was like, I have to go to literally every place in the world. And now that's what I've been trying to do. I've been to, at this point, I've been to over 300 or 400 sites around the world. Ancient sites. Um, you know, we're almost 10 years in. Yeah. Like eight and, um, then the idea started kind of coming together. And, um, I knew from the very beginning that I wanted to give people hope or encouragement because I think I needed that. Yeah. You know, and then my life changed so drastically from where I was in my drug use that, um, the idea that first of all, knowing everybody's going through something. Yeah. It might not be drugs, but everybody's dealing with something that's even when you're off the drugs. Yeah. And then you're going to stumble into difficult stuff. You can be lonely. You can be depressed. Yeah. You can be sad. You can have loss. You can, so many things that we're all going through all the time, you know, and I just wanted to maintain that perspective, having come from a place where I always just wanted some compassion in my life and didn't really ever feel like I was getting it. Um, where maybe I could put a little bit of that back into the world. Into the world. Um, and, you know, I think the last year really got pulled away from some of that. I was telling you guys some of that briefly, you know, I really got it sucked into this whole back and forth thing with this, these archeologists. Somebody's always got to fuck it up, man. Like, you know, like, yeah, you were talking about it and I was, I was kind of getting mad at you. I was like, why are you giving into this shit, dude? You know, they got, they got so aggressive with me. Um, I made a video. I was, I was really in this tough spot of I had seen so many places around the world that I started piecing together this realization of what I was looking at at these sites. Cause you go to a site like the pyramids or different places and you, you're seeing it and you're just overwhelmed with all, you're not looking at the details, right? The little tiny things at these places sometimes. And what I started realizing after having been to hundreds and hundreds of sites was piecing together these similarities and saying that's concrete and that is reconstructed. And this is, I started noticing that there was a pattern to how these sites were being reconstructed and developed for tourism. And it was really concerning. And I put together this video is calling, it's called archeology exposed or dark side of archeology. That's what did it. And they came after me hard, bro. Really hard. These are tenured professors talking shit to me on Twitter. Call me a piece of shit and stuff. And it was intense. There's a lot. And I think it pulled me away from, because there was also a lot of success last year. There were a lot of big things that happened for me last year. And it, and all those things combined really pulled me away from my focus for a bit of trying to grow the channel saying yes to things that were good, but maybe they weren't for me. Yeah. Right. Speaking engagements and empiric appearances and different things. And I think it got me off track. And just this year, you know, it's like, it's time to get back in it. Yeah, man. It's time to shed all this bullshit and just get back into making videos and pumping content out again and doing what I love. Because I had to sit down and ask myself, like, are you happy doing what you're doing anymore? Yeah. You know, I was like, no, dude, I'm not, I'm not feeling. Because for like eight years, I was waking up every morning just like looking. Yeah, dude, just jazzed about my life. And I realized that I was just burnt out, unhappy and overworked. And I was like, this has got to go. And it just took me a while to kind of figure that out. And I'm back in that spot now. So I'm really looking forward to the rest of this year. Do you think that was, you think that was happening as a result of you engaging with these? Oh, yeah, I don't engage in the meanwhile. Yeah. Well, but is that what it started? Is that when it started? Yeah, yeah, my perspective of the space that I was in. You were just giving them too much of your fucking. I was like, I'm too much of that energy that you had. And this is we've talked. We talked about this earlier before we started filming. It's a weird, it's a weird life to navigate being in the public eye. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it, you know, even if we're just talking about 70,000 subscribers, it's not like I've got a million subscriber channel or something. And, but I have friends with million plus. Yeah. And I don't know. I'm like, this is tough navigating sometimes like this. I can't imagine. And even imagine. But they, yeah, but they don't like that. You're right. That's the key. Yeah. They don't. Yeah. They have someone else. Yeah. I don't think it's even that. I think they just don't like, like what the some feet off of that. And then some just don't engage with it or they know how to engage with it and we'll just leave it. We've had a, when Rachel Elizabeth first came on, she had over a million subscribers and she said, like, if she gets up in the morning and doesn't pray and doesn't like get her mind right and starts checking fucking messages, it can ruin her entire fucking day. So I had to do that. And I do that. That was that was a big part of my life was getting up every morning and praying. Yeah. First thing that's the first thing I do. I get up in the morning, hit my knees and then I would read my Bible, do my stuff, taking the dogs out and everything like that. But that was how I started my brain started working in the morning. Yeah. And then I realized, yeah, I was do that's I was waking up and instantly go into my phone and looking at comments and stuff. Yeah. And that's just framing my whole view for the day. Yeah. And I don't do that. That's good. It's, you know, sometimes it's good to go through those types things. Yeah. To bring you back to what's most important. I bring you back to where this isn't what I was doing this for. I was doing it for that. Yeah. Because nothing sucks more than when you're waking up not looking forward to fucking today. Like, dude, it sucks. That's that's fucking I'll start putting drugs back in my body. Bro, you know, I think I shared this last time. When I quit my last job, I was so I got sober. I was able to get sober in two weeks when I quit that job. Because I was so miserable. I had to be high every day to do that job. But yeah, yeah. Well, at the end of the day, man, you got to do it. For you, you've always got to remember why you started it in the first place. And when you start engaging with people like that. And to me, what you're doing is more valuable because all you're doing is going out there with your drones and your cameras. And you're like, I'm here. Yeah, like I'm here and I've got a fucking opinion. Like I can give it. It's it's I. And the crazy thing was that all I was doing I was. Showing. I'm like filming it. Yeah. Showing it and saying this is what's been done here. It's not like I was. Making anything up or you can't go look for yourself at literally every. I mean, I was showing footage in Cambodia of them. Taking these ancient stones. Cutting them with chainsaw, cutting them with stones, saws to fit into walls and place where they wanted to place. So they're not doing archaeological work on all these things to rebuild the site. These are day laborers. Yeah. And that's how most of the constructions at these sites are done. So like if you go to Teotihuacan down in Mexico, that's all concrete. Chichen Itza is concrete. They're they've been rebuilt with concrete. Right. Right. And they they have a pattern, a system that with dots in between the stones that show that this area has been reconstructed. That's all concrete. Yeah. So it's not like I was. It's kind of like when I went to the Alamo the first time, I thought I was going to see the fucking wrecked everything. Right. And it's all been rebuilt except for like one little wall. And, you know, I didn't know that. And when I went there, I was like, that's kind of sucks. Well, not only that, but the Alamo has been 90 percent of it's like torn down. Yeah. Like when you go and you see it's like, dude, the Alamo was like the service area of fucking San Antonio. Like it was massive, dude. And yeah. So you just have this one little spot. It's like, you know, like I've been to Egypt. Yeah. And I've watched people in Egypt, like having full on these crazy emotional moments crying and being overwhelmed in front of these like statues and stuff. Yeah. That I know are just concrete replicas. Yeah. So really, all I was saying was like, just be more mindful up front and honest about how these sites are being managed and handled. Yeah. And I briefly touched on the whole, the whole issue with the black market stuff, which is a real issue for ancient sites. You know, those pieces, when these sites are discovered, they're just disappear. Yeah. And they end up in some billionaires. Yeah. Lawn, you know, next to his fucking pool. Right. Yeah. And, you know, it's so it's like, but they did not like that. Yeah. So they really came after me, all those, all the archeologists, and it really threw me off for a little bit because up, you know, till I made that video, but I feel like the video needed to be made. I was the only person really that I don't know if I was the only person, but I was sitting on what was needed to share that information. Yeah. And I felt like it was important. I felt like people should be aware of. Yeah. What you're looking at, what you're looking at when you go to these sites, it doesn't have to take away from the grandeur and amazingness of it. But I know I want to know the truth of what I'm looking at. So, but yeah, we're back on track now. Yeah. You don't want to go to Disney and fucking see a Chuck E. Cheese there. You want to see fucking Mickey Mouse? Yeah. Yeah. I can't see Mickey Mouse. Why the fuck's Chuck E. Cheese out this motherfucker? Yeah. I mean, people will do anything to fucking like, they're like, oh, this, honestly, it probably had a lot more to do with you just like living your life and going out in front of these places and doing it for real. And there's some jealousy for sure. There's probably a little lot of that jealousy. Yeah. I'm sure. And I don't think they like. I mean, you have to ask yourself why is construction being done that way? Yeah. And the tourism 100% and money. This is the end to your point, like they don't like they didn't like that. These sites where these things are in the middle of Peru or Cambodia, probably not a whole lot of money flowing into these places. Exactly. 100%. So what do we have that will get the wandering wolf out here with a group of people to spend a little bit of money? It's and that which is that's not in and of itself a bad thing. Tourism has literally been going on for thousands of years. You know, people used to take tours from Rome to Egypt. Yeah. This is not like anything new. Yeah. But, um, but yeah. Um, yeah, I don't think they. They just archaeologists have had this kind of aura around them and their profession for so long that I think some of them really took issue with like that being poked at. But they're they strike me as the type of or the type of community. And I don't know any archaeologists. I'm just making a fucking broad like stroke here. But if you. We don't know that went to college. Yeah. We don't know very many people who read books. Yeah. But. They seem like the type of crowd that doesn't like to be shown up or proven wrong. Yeah. In any way. Well, I mean, yeah, I like I mean, I work themselves into positions as professors and it gives them. I'm not saying all of them. Yeah. Some of them. You know, where they have control and they're important. Mm hmm. They get tenured. They could put out a book. Yeah. They're important in their little world, right? Yeah. If any part of that unwinds, the ecosystem gets destroyed. Yeah. For their life that they've created. Yeah. And I get that. But. Yeah, I'm going to just keep making what I make. And I'm just going to stop paying attention to all that now. Hey man, Twitter's tough, dude. Twitter's a tough spot. We're not on Twitter, dude. Probably good. Yeah. We we we have an account. Yeah. That's the one that we really stay away from. Probably did. Probably get away from that one. Yeah. Yeah. The engagement there is so back and forth. Yeah. That's the thing is there's like if you look at like the NBA stars and they're the engagements like instant bam, bam, bam, bam. But there's also a lot of that. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Going back and forth. I always tell him I'm like, I'm like, dude, do not engage. Like we got some of the dance that go by to and I was like, bro, I want to tell him, bitch, I will fucking come find you. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, shut up. Just it'll go away so much faster if you just don't talk to him. It's like, because that'll suck you in for hours. Next thing you know, you're like, I've been arguing with this no name person. Now I'm yelling at my wife and shit. Yeah. You're destroying your life over some fucking. Yeah. Like we're I'm like, dude, we next thing you know, you need a drink. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, we're not fucking doctors or professionals in any way. Fuck them. Like we're just over here. If you found something you like and you get it, just keep doing that. Yeah, dude. I like 100%. Yeah. So. I always like just kind of I did a doom scroll of like all these places that you've been and you filmed. And I was like, man, I'm going to watch one of them. I ended up watching the latest one that you did. It was just awesome, by the way. Thanks. But I'm really proud of that one. Yeah, that was that was a good that was honestly something I could see on like Netflix or like Annie or I think that that's the exact style that we're going for. And I think that's really the first video that we put out where we all were working together. Yeah. And I feel like over the next year of us doing that, it's just going to be so dialed in. I mean, we've already got we're working on our plans for Japan. I'll be in Japan next month for like a month and a half and filming there. And we're going to have a whole series. I think it's going to be great. I think people are really going to be happy. Yeah, with the content. Yeah, I think you should take two acts and a moron on the road with you. So come on a tour. That would be so fucking cool. You know what? I'll set up a tour. We can all do a tour ourselves. You guys can host a tour. Yeah. People pay to go party like travel with you. Party. Super party. Send out a search party for us. Yeah. Everybody lost. Yeah. So here's the fucking pyramid. It's cool, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I my question is, is like. What site that you went to. Yeah. Was. One that like shattered your expectation. That is the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being being the one being the one being the one being the one being The site is massive. It has every kind of example of like Kind of oddity in terms of these ancient sites and stuff that you see around the world. So It's just when you Look at the scale of that place and what they did plus it has clear, you know The archaeologists will come after me for saying this because the story is that the Romans built it, right? But what you see is a clear difference in the base of the the structure the main structure there and What was put on top and you can see it's clear as day the difference. Yeah, you have these massive Stones largest in the world for the whole base of this thing and then all of a sudden the blocks Don't fit together perfectly or they're they're clearly they clearly are Roman made which are all uniform size and shapes and And and so what it you know appears to be is like the Romans found this ancient structure Yeah, which you see in Peru and all over different places in the world as well. You see the same example, right? The the newer the construction the less sophisticated it is. Okay, right? So you have these Peru these megalithic perfectly shaped together blocks and Polygonal masonry and all the stuff and then you can tell where the next level it's two There's just no comparison between the stonework And they built on top of that and then it gets even worse the modern-day construction that we use now It's doesn't even compare to the that lower level. Yeah, so But ball back has that it has the stone of the pregnant woman in the quarry down the road And I can't remember the name of the stone that's been unearthed underneath it These are some of the largest Uncorrid stones that haven't been removed from the bedrock but were shaped out. Okay It's bigger than as one quarry in Egypt Yeah, the only thing that I've seen bigger is in China yangshan quarry Those are the biggest Corrid stones that are still attached to the bedrock in in the world Yangshan quarry but ball back Right to the top. Yeah, it's easy when you when you see a place like that built Obviously we can't even build some of that shit with the technology now, right? Wouldn't even attempt it. Yeah, look at how ugly like our build like downtown Austin, you know, there's no it's like there's just Everything's just utility. Yeah, it's just all yeah, there's no create Creativeness or beauty put into any of our structures anymore And they did that back then not only did they do that but they did it as a scale that we can't even Wrap our minds around Yeah, so does it make deep do you believe in aliens? Especially my space right because it started doing live streams to talk people. No, I don't I don't don't ask is like a Lot of people think that there's no way that humans built that right. Yeah, I I do think humans did it I just think that they had such fucking amazing technology Yeah, and they just figured it out when we're when we talk about technology. I'm not talking about technology like we have now, right? I think that These ancient peoples were working more in tune with the world that we exist within So we know that things like sound waves can levitate objects and things like that Lock them spatially into place and stuff like that Levitate objects with sound There's all sorts of stuff that we can do that if you scaled up could easily explain some of this stuff Yeah, and I think that You know, we understood The things like the effect that sound waves frequencies have on their environment on ourselves our bodies ourselves and Water and all sorts of different stuff and these you know you start diving into a lot of this and I Think that that's the kind of technology that they were right It's not like cranes and all that bullshit. No, yeah, maybe maybe cranes, but not not like computers and yeah hydraulic systems and things We would try to use nowadays Yeah, cuz I've seen some people on YouTube like put sound waves and shit together And it's crazy. Yeah, how it can reverse the change of water are yeah, I mean it's insane somatics like You see at this point ever I think everybody seen where they take the plate they put sand all over it And then they put sound through it and it all the sand Goes into shape. Yeah, you know like makes a star or whatever. I mean These are real world effects that they're You know that are influencing things Which is sound. Yeah, you know, so you just think they had just a much more bigger understanding a much better level Yeah, I mean, you know, I Think what was going on is that at some point in our ancient past there was access to free energy The ancients understood how to access free energy out of our environment. Yeah, well that was through the atmosphere or Somehow they were creating it. I really like the theories on the pyramids and stuff being basically power plants pumping energy out to the atmosphere and then being able to pull that in and utilize it If you had access to free energy everybody in the world You you would have a society that would Not only potentially build things like this if you had the right type of technology like we're talking about But you'd have a life where people were creating with beauty and art and interests Because time you had nothing but time so you're pursuing passions, right? Right, you're pursuing interests There's no need for Jobs and a monetary system, right? You have access to the energy and all the sorts of things that you need to exist on a daily life You just got to grow your fucking garden. Yeah Yeah, and keep your animals alive to feed yourself and then pursue your trade Your interests your passion and if you're a stoneworker You know spending your whole life learning it and doing it might create these things that You know I'm traveling around the world looking at wondering like Yeah, what happened here? Yeah, so I just had this interesting thought while you were talking about this Yeah, and it's like because you're like other aliens, right? Because that's what a lot of people go to and it doesn't matter if you subscribe to it or not but I Just thought about how Hard-working ants are You know shitloads of ants making the mounds all over and how intricate it is underneath the ground From one to the next which they've done that before yeah Over time we've probably given so much advanced technology that it made us lazy and we don't have to look for shit like that Yeah, I mean I mean People are driven by either you figure out what you're passionate about Because that'll motivate you regardless right or it's a necessity right you have to be Not lazy because you got to pay the bills and support yeah Yeah But if you exist between those spaces yeah, that's why I just stuff like universal basic income and things like that I just think are horrible ideas because you're just giving people paychecks. We see it Yeah, we see it happen in our society when people are just collecting checks a Bass majority of them just don't they stop doing anything. Do shit. They don't do anything. Yeah. There's no contribution at all anymore, right and What for yeah and People their expectation of what they deserve to have or how they should be living Lowers and lowers and the horse They're willing to put up with less and less and less if they just have to paycheck and basic needs are met. Yeah That's a good point So you do you have you can't have these kind of collapses or whatever I would assume I would imagine that that would happen You know in America we went to like some kind of full-on Universal income everybody gets paid the same everybody gets paid the same no matter what you're a doctor You're a you're a store clerk and why bother same. Yeah, you know Well, why would you ever go to college and go pursue? Yeah, these things I mean, I'm not gonna go be a doctor for 12 years if I'm making the same money that a Dog walker, you know, I mean, it's like right and you see that happen you see that happen in countries where things like The healthcare system is private as a Nationalized or whatever it's run by the government, you know Quality of care goes down. Yeah You know, so it's You know the the top of the top I'm a veteran been using the VA for years and No disrespect to docs and stuff in the VA But the top Doctors and stuff in the field of medicine aren't fighting for jobs at the VA, right? Yeah, you know what I mean? So, you know, you know, it's they're not all the same. Yeah But Yeah It's really important I think for people to it can take along to took me almost 40 years to figure out what I wanted to do with My life. Yeah. Yeah, I used to pray all the time my 20s and my 30s in the midst The worst of my drug addictions That I could just find something that made me happy that I was passionate about yeah used to say I just thought to myself all the time. I was just so like why why not here? Yeah, this person has known what they want to do since they were a kid and now they're doing it. Yeah 22 Yeah, you knew exactly what they wanted to do and doing it Seemingly yeah, everybody has their own issues, right? Mm-hmm, but it looks like that a lot of times. Yeah people I Just I remember saying that a lot was just like I just want to find something that I'm a passionate about that I'm willing to do No matter what yeah, you know and wake up every day and be happy about We were talking about a minute ago be excited about there's not a better feeling in the world than the wake up in the morning Just happy. Mm-hmm. Just happy. Yeah I'm gonna like make yourself be happy or buy something to be happy or do something or you're just happy With your life and what you're doing That is an amazing feeling And it took a long time for me personally to find that Like I said almost 40 years, but that's what I wish for everybody Yeah So everybody can I Know people how you have to work a job you have to do things if that's where you're at But if you can put a little time into like pursuing your interests and different things trying different things To eventually find something where you have that moment like I had at socks and one on where you're just like I Have to do this for the rest of my life and I don't know and back then I was like I don't know how I'm gonna do that. I don't know how don't know where the money's gonna come from I'm gonna do it because I have to do this. Yeah, I had no experience with the camera I still suck with the camera man. I had no experience with any of it And I'm horrible at social media and all the back-end stuff and things like that. Yeah, I Just figured out. Yeah, it's something I'm willing to not quit at Cuz I love doing it so Yeah If People talk about world peace and stuff if you had one wish if I had one wish I'd wish that for everybody I think you might have world peace. Yeah, 100% you know for everybody, you know New in their heart what they were passionate about what they they wanted to do find that thing Well, that's a that's a great question like especially like deer and in addiction right for me probably for anybody in life But an addiction in my addiction. I always question like why am I here? Like what was God's purpose of putting me here? Yeah, because I know it wasn't to do drugs all day. Yeah, right? But that's what I was doing But I didn't know anything else that I was really passionate about that I wanted to do and Then you start getting like 20 years old 30 years old 40 years old and then you start questioning like Is this all that I was is this all that I was supposed to do and now I'm getting to a point to where I'm older To where can I really? Yeah, dude your oldest? Yeah, can I can I find something else? You know and I used to look at what used to motivate me was I used to look online and find out people That it became like famous and successful at an age of past 40 yeah 50 yeah 60 and then that's Sort of giving me hope like Colonel Sanders didn't fucking become Until until he's fucking old old old right he didn't even get to see his yeah and very weighing I think very weighing was I think she's one that didn't be become successful So yeah, I started looking at those different stories of people that hit it at 50 and they figured oh fuck This is what I'm supposed to do and that started giving me that little bit of hope Yeah, where I think JK Rowling yeah, she didn't write the Harry Potter books till she was in her 40s. I think yeah Fucking billionaire now billionaire and and I think if I'm not mistaken when she first brought him out Nobody wanted to even yeah be a part of it. Yeah, you know It's great. It's a great point because you hear it people say it's never too late. It's never yeah, yeah you know it's when you're especially Coming out of a drug addiction First of all if you had better and Healthy ways of managing your life your emotions and all different things. Yeah, yeah that you don't have Clearly because you're this deep in your drug addiction if you had those things You know it might be easier because you'd understand some kind of process But when you're coming out of some kind of drug addiction and you don't have any of these kind of tools Yeah, you're just it feels like you're shooting blind. Mm-hmm, right? So you don't you know It doesn't always seem like it helps But you hear it a lot people saying just don't give up. Yeah, yeah But it's true. Mm-hmm, especially in that time period when you're coming out of some kind of addiction You're trying to make a change in your life for me. It felt like I was stuck on this path My life had been laid out in such a way. My child was horrible. I got taken away from my family. I got put in different group homes jail treatment centers mental institutions till it's 18 and then Drug addiction failed relationships, you know just all this horrible shit and you know You know To me it seemed like my life was on a track and that was just what it was for me. Yeah, yeah, right? I was never gonna have an opportunity to go to college. I mean nobody was gonna pay for that Nothing like that if I didn't work and figure out some way to money. There was nowhere for me to stay Right, you know, there's not like a home waiting at my a room waiting at my childhood home Yeah, yeah for me to crash it if I fell on hard times, right? It just felt like That was my path. Mm-hmm. And so for me Coming out of the addiction and trying to do these things with my life Felt like I was trying to hop Tracks. Yeah, and it felt how the hell am I gonna do that? I tried to be a firefighter. I got a Conditional letter higher than the psyche guy. I got hired on with went through a whole Academy at the ACC got trained up certified I Got in got a conditional letter higher with awesome fire department and site got profile got failed me because he Saw something on my somehow he got my records from when I was a kid. Mm-hmm Huge failure. Yeah, that was one of my first big attempts to like change my life. Yeah, and I went back to using And um And then I was like, maybe I'll try I'll try again, dude. I guess, you know, but it was like Trying to shift that get on to the other track That's tough, man. Yeah You do just keep going and then it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter if you're 40 or 50 Doesn't matter if you're 60 dude. If you're 80 years old Dude, if you made it to 80 as a drug addict First off adds off to you, man. Good job. Good job, but you can still change. Yeah It's a lot of people that just have things happen for them once they commit to something Mm-hmm, but you have to put yourself in a position for that to be able to For the opportunities to present. Yeah, well, you also got to put yourself in a position to Be willing to fail to be willing to fail. Yeah, because I know you've got a sales background Yeah, you get used to it. Yeah, a lot of people aren't yeah I think uh, I always say like some of your best salespeople Are people that had like rough childhoods because we've been told no and we times and like Pushed away and fucking like I didn't know my dad that well and fucking like things like that. So Being told no really doesn't hurt my feelings. Yeah, because I've been told no by the some of the people that love me the most, right? Um, but yeah, you definitely have to be able to put yourself out there and be willing Like whenever you realize like, hey, this is what I want to do You didn't know how you were gonna do it what you're gonna you didn't know You didn't know how to run a camera. You didn't know how to But you had that little bit of hope And you know what I can I could that's enough. Yeah, I can I can go from there and if you get You get a couple wins It starts getting better. Yeah And start being come becoming friends with kram hand cock Like that's fucking cool Yeah, that's pretty wild dude. That's fucking insane. It still trips me out like when I see you on like talking to him Like god and whatever it's it's pretty trippy amazing, dude. And then I've been really fortunate and lucky to um develop of being able to call him a friend over the last many years and Yeah, I mean his wife are amazing people And um He sets the bar high I always go like I'm picking a place and I'm like, I wonder if he's been here And I'm like son of a bitch. She's been there. I have a quick funny story So I'm I've got I got three brothers, right? I'm fourth and I'm like Kind of a black sheep. They love me like it's Love right, but I think differently. I do things. I'm on a podcast like shit like that Yeah, and I told him the first time you were coming on I was like, yeah, there's a guy wandering wolf my brothers were like Just now getting into it. They were like, hey, joey's not just this fucking dip shit doing the he's actually a dip shit doing something right like and So I go, yeah, look him up, dude. He does these fucking great things goes around the world and he's doing Ancient aliens. I told him you did some of the footage for it And my older brother calls me the next day and he goes This guy knows fucking graham handcock. How the fuck are you rubbing elbows with anybody who knows graham handcock? You fucking degenerate piece of shit It was just it was just a funny thing and like it's Kind of true like I you know, I got to I got to share stage with them last year. It was amazing. I watched it Did you? Yeah, I watched it. It's sold out Yeah, it's a good confidence. It was you him and, um, jimmy jimmy corsetti. Yeah, is that his name? Yeah, it was a real treat to be able to get up on stage with him and talk to people We had just got we'd just gone to jimmy and I had just gone to, um, turkey And went and uh, checked out gobeckley teppy explored a bunch of other places too It was quite a trip and he was talking about stuff to do with that and one of us to come on stage and Share a lot of that. Yeah We were able to get into a lot of other cool stuff too. Yeah, that was really really cool. Um, it's talked about you on Joe Rogan before I mean numerous times. He's been Yeah, yeah That's awesome, bro Yeah, they keep playing my stuff. Yeah, dude all the time keeps playing. He's like typing your shit up Yeah, you'll be on you'll be on rogan before too long. Yeah I don't know Um, yeah, maybe maybe I don't know it's um I you know the way I'm going is a little bit different. It's not um It's not why you're doing it. Yeah, yeah, you're well and it's not Most of the ancient history guys that go on there are like very factual in it, you know, and really everything I'm doing is more The the experience. Yeah what I'm feeling and you know And I'm still trying to learn to what what that looks like I feel like that video that you referenced the Cairo videos the best version two date of doing that Of like sharing the experience and putting the viewer there Yeah, well, I've watched a lot of your videos like, you know before the last one that we did together Watched a ton of them and then since you know, I'm subscribed They'll come up. I'll check them out and Yeah, that was my initial thought too was like, oh, this is going in a whole new direction right now I was like it was like I was kind of proud of you. I was like, this is this is super cool. This is like Sammy and k are gonna love hearing that much better. Um It was it was like a It went from you being Analyzing these places that you were going with all of your stuff to now you you're just in hang Like you're you're you're hanging. Yes, you're hanging with some people and it's Loving life. Yeah, I love the experience. That's it. It was just a cool hang dude. So I I like where it's head man. That's awesome. Thank you. So part two's out now. You can watch that. All right, cool It came out Friday. So I have I'm a little bit of a I'm very curious about the paranormal. Yeah and like Paranormal stuff and homes that are haunted and shit like that always have been since I was little You're going to some places that have some fucking history. Yeah, man. Like, uh, have you ever experienced anything like of A paranormal, you know people ask me that all the time and I've never Um, I've had plenty of crazy experiences. Yeah, but nothing like paranormal paranormal or like unexplainable Um, yeah, man, um, trying to think Somewhere that I've been maybe was kind of sketch You know, if I'm in a space like that I stay in prayer, bro, you know, yeah my my yeah my faith in in Jesus is Really strong at this point in my life Stronger than it's ever been um If I'm going to places I'm I'm not worried about stuff like that and I but I I've never had any kind of experience Yeah, and I don't mean negative. I don't mean no. No. Um, I just no experience at all. Yeah I've never had some weird thing happen or some kind of like You know, unexplainable thing, um Or, you know, the only the only time that I've had something weird happen was um I was on a hiking trip out big bend um with some buddies and we saw what looked like a star that was exploding and then contracting Exploding and doing that over and over until it disappeared And then the next night there were lights flying up and around the mountains like like a straight up like a UFO Yeah It was completely unexplainable how fast it was moving and changing course and stuff across the sky It's the only time I've ever seen anything like that. That was out at big bend, which is out You know close to marfa and all that stuff. Yeah happens around there. Yeah I could not explain that I've been in the woods before at night and heard crazy stuff that I can't explain um But I've never had some kind of paranormal thing. Yeah Well, that's disappointing Like shit, are you are you a conspiracy theory kind of person? I mean, yes to a certain extent. I just um, I think my you know my my view In a lot of times. So like if I'm if I'm because I started doing live streams and interviewing um ancient history people and stuff, you know on a secondary channel And we'll get into those things and I usually don't yeah get involved in my perspective because it kind of shuts it down so if you're trying to get into that because I I don't Really get into the aliens and I don't really get into the supernatural stuff. I just um I I've always just really enjoyed focusing on the the um The ancient sites. Yeah, because I can go I can see it and I can put my hands on it Yeah, um, you know Is it cool whenever you have like a group of people because everybody has their own opinions? Absolutely. Yeah So I know that you probably don't want to share so much like your thoughts and things But you get to hear his and his and hers and hers and hers and Does it kind of blow your mind what some people think and oh, yeah, yeah, bro the space that I'm in Yeah, yeah Some of the stuff like does somebody has anyone ever said something you're like, holy fuck That sounds like some Yeah, man, I get wild emails. Yeah A lot. Yeah, like rabbit hole type shit. Oh, yeah Emails that if I set and tried to read all day and take me all day if I tried to read one that one email. Yeah. Yeah, just Yeah, yeah, you know And by the way, it's not that I don't think that there's paranormal normal stuff that happens. Yeah um You're just like in tune. I yeah, you're probably just like Seeing but also like I I do because some of these are out in the open, right like and If you're in the woods right like And it's dark Yeah, I'm just gonna start playing tricks on you a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. I mean Yeah I do think that there's places around the world where it's Probably easier to have experiences like because I've been to some places that are pretty far out and I wouldn't want to stay overnight at you know, yeah, yeah for sure Um, and I think there's probably places like that you said earlier some of the you that said earlier that You know some of these places, you know, I've had thousands of years of history and things happening And um And some bad things happening lots of bad things, right? So you can kind of feel Weight of history at places the energy for sure. You can feel that You know, I went to a site in Lebanon that was supposed to be the Kolkana That's where Jesus performed his first miracle turning water to wine. Wow. And you just Kind of sit there with that. Yeah That was like 2000 years ago. Yeah, you know, like this most famous historical figure ever Was sitting here was right here. He could have been standing right here. It could have been standing right I could have walked exactly where he walked. Yeah And what's crazy is that site is also an ancient quarry and everybody just walks by all that They don't even cut the grass and it's all these Cut out massive stone blocks from quarry spaces all around that. Yeah Cave where it all the site was um But yeah, walking to places like that Sometimes I'll sit there and I'll just let that sense of trying to understand. Yeah The history behind everything that happened here at this place um Yeah, and then you know, you go to places and Maybe Mexico or Central America where you know that they were just Merkin people slaughter, you know what I mean? It's just right here at this site. Just killing ripping their hearts out All that was happening like right here. Yeah, I mean you go to chitchnitsa and there's you know Skeletons and stuff in the pit or whatever. Yeah, that's off to the side. I can't remember what it's called or there was and um You start getting into the history around a lot of that. Yeah, you're just like Here That's crazy Or the coliseum just standing in the coliseum. Yeah, how many people died in there? Yeah, you know what I mean? In a brutal way and a crazy stuff was going on here and around this vicinity people were cheering them on Yeah, as they were fucking working. Well, we watch you. I see still like I I can't help but think about the coliseum When I'm like have a bunch of buddies watching the UFC You know what I mean? Like it's I know they're not killing each other, but yeah, I've walked through catacombs in places. Yeah, they just go on and on and on and it's just thousands and thousands and thousands of skulls and bodies and sistaque on top of each other Yeah, you're walking down entire corridors underground of just fucking stories bodies like 15 stories or something I don't know if they've walked through if they know how deep that thing is I've walked through the field fields of like the killing fields and Palm pen All the slaughter and stuff that happened over there under pole pot and cambodia Oh, geez and just come on that's recent come up across monuments of skulls stacked You know two stories high And you know this wide across just skulls. Yeah And a giant tower Yeah, and then you know It's a museum now That was like a jail where people were being tortured And they have renaissance of that and I've seen that in vietnam. They have a place in vietnam Um, I dropped a short on that and that one got censored so hard and it still got hundreds of thousands of views Just to walk through of the vietnam memorial um Over there And the pictures of the atrocities and stuff that were gone. Yeah My buddy went to osha witz. He said yeah, and he said like when you go there and you sit there Yeah, like you can feel yeah like you can feel the heavy. It's it's heavy as black So no paranormal stuff per se, but the weight of history can really hit you if you stop at these places And just just think in your head About where you're at That energy has to stay there a little bit like the you know what I mean that it does it does stay there You can't stand under something like the shadow of the pyramid and not be impressed have the weight of history impressed upon you Yeah, you know um or walk through some like somewhere like karnak and these you know just massive columns that Feels like you could get lost on without feeling that um I'm trying to imagine what this must have been like Yeah, at least I can't yeah Yeah, and you know what honestly like I've had to ask myself this before like am I chasing a new high When I first first started out in this I did I had to ask myself like Am I doing this in a healthy way? Yeah, I haven't just replaced That you know this thing for that thing. Yeah, I just had that thought like I thought that When you were talking about just starting in You're in Peru. Yeah, you're like I'm doing this now. This is what I'm doing And I it was a little frantic when I started it was like I gotta go everywhere and I gotta do everything all the time and right, but but You're gonna replace that with something You you're gonna replace the drugs with it it evens out a little bit right you find your balance and you're equally right Yeah, right, so I mean But the big thing is is that I think most with most addicts and maybe you can tell me what you think here is We're usually pretty extreme people. It's always all the way this or all the way that yeah all the way to the top Yep, I always I'm killing myself with how much I'm doing. I'm not only gonna half ass Right. Yeah, what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm gonna fucking go all the way the top So it's like that's a learned behavior pattern through drug addiction You know because I used to ask myself why do I have to get so high that I'm literally almost dying or dying? Yeah Why am why am I why do I why can my friends? Get fucked up a little bit. Yeah, but I'm waking up in an ambulance. Yeah in the are in the hospital You know what I mean? Yeah somebody Pressing on my chest. Yeah, why do I have to do it like that? Yeah, and then When you start getting sober the world is different. Yeah, it's crazy, but you're still living like that. Yeah And and and so you have to figure out how to regulate your emotions you have to figure out how to Balance your life and do things in a way that's you know Practical for living where you're not because I spent years year and I still struggle with this I'll I'll work. I've got something that I love love doing and I'll work until I burn myself out. Yeah Yeah It's and I have to I'm having to learn really I'm still having to learn How important taking a weekend off is And resting I literally just talked to my wife about this today She was I was on my way to come do this And I stopped at the gym to go work out and I didn't make it in the gym. I fell asleep in my car Right. Yeah, and she calls me and she's like, what are you doing? I was like Better go work out And then I look at the clock and it's almost six and like I guess I'm not gonna work out. I guess I fell asleep And she's like, you know, she said I know that like you're always pursuing stuff You're always going She said but you have to know When it's time to like take some just a healthy break Yeah, like you're always running for your daughter. You're a coach and or you're working or you're doing podcasts and shit I'm so proud of you for all of it She said but you have to know like when fucking you're just burned And you got to take like, you know what I need to take today. Yeah, and I was like, you know Get some truth to it. I said, well, we got a podcast tonight. We got one or more too So but um, but yeah, now that's you can definitely work yourself to you know, it's what we do Yeah, and I I think you know another thing that most People who've come out of drug addiction struggle with too is boundaries. Yeah It's just never real healthy understanding of boundaries. Yeah Whether it's with people or yourself relationships anything relationships anything, yeah and um You have to learn that it's a lot of stuff you have to learn You're literally learning how to be an adult. Yeah at a fucking older age Then most people really at 42 I'm having to relearn Things that I should have knew when I was 20. Yep, but now I'm learning them 22 years later All right, and now I'm trying to like make them make sense like Um, but yeah, I get that Yeah, it's it's very interesting So so where's a place that you haven't mentioned That if I was gonna go out of the united states somewhere I got to go see before I die Where would you go? Name one for him. Just name one and I've got a different doesn't have to be ancient site focus. No, you just It's up to you Uh You know, Europe's amazing. I love Europe. You can just get around so easily and see a lot of culture Like you can't you get on the train and just yeah, pretty much go everywhere and just you can see a lot of different It's very it's very different. Yeah You could bounce, you know, you can bounce around from country to country and have all kinds of incredible experiences really um So Europe yeah, if I was going to tell you to go to one place to get the maximum amount of experiences Go to Europe pop a train around have fun Just take a week and just do that if you're going somewhere for a week um Yeah, I would do Europe like at least like a month or something a couple weeks. Yeah, and then pick a region You know But like now if it was an ancient site, where would you say? If no one's ever someone's never traveled to an ancient site and you got a week Yeah, Egypt's amazing Egypt's Also very intense um That'd be good one. Cambodia is really easy to get around and do um It comes with the phone complications depending on when you go there Just because it's can be really hot be really wet really. Yeah, um Malta is amazing You can just go hang out on an island in Malta and it's just It's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah. There's just so many ancient sites there. It's so many things to do I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I think it's five or six hours if I remember. I'm not terrible not terrible get down there in a day And it's cheap flights. There's times of the year. He could fly down to Peru round trip tickets 350 bucks. Really? Yeah From Austin, yeah um What's a place in the united states that was gonna be my question the us Yeah, united for like ancient sites or just to go visit Um, what you've got, you know, the american southwest is full of stuff. It's fun to go see Especially if you like hiking and getting out in nature, you know, you got choco canyon and mace verde and bunch of places like that Um, you know, you can get up into the uh Like You know St. Louis has kahokia mounds. You've got the ohio serpent mounds, you know out there in ohio There's a lot of really cool stuff like that out there that way um And then there's even stuff on the east coast. There's dolmens um, I filmed some of that Florida has stuff Florida has ancient shell mounds. Yeah There's a bunch of mounds here. Are they not like thousands? Yeah, if not I've got millions in america The entire country is covered in mounds people don't even know about this. They don't realize it I have no idea because I was reading somewhere It was uh, this was a long time ago. Maybe in tennessee. Does that make sense? Uh-huh. Yeah, and like this guy's backyard was just fucking mounds from like fucking native americans and Like it's now it's a site that people go and see But um, I don't remember if I mentioned this on did we talk about mounds last time if you want to know about mounds Look into dr. Gregory little Gregory little he's probably the foremost person on american mound culture. Okay, but I'm aware of He's got tons of books out. He's active on twitter and he posts stuff Mound related on twitter almost every day because native americans is something that fucking fascinates me. Yeah Like it's so The extent of the of the societies that lived here the real story of the native americans here in america before Europeans came over right? You know, cohocia was at its peak was larger than london at the same time. Yeah, it's like 100 Something 100 something 200 000 people living in cohocia. Mm-hmm full city. Yeah massive city Yeah, there's a lot of really cool history in america. Mm-hmm You said something last time too when you were here that Kind of hasn't left my brain, but you were like You were like I think the more We look into the megalithic stuff here the more My interpretation of the way history was told to us is changing Like in your own brain. You said something to that effect. You were like, man, I I think Yeah, well cool things since the last time that I was here is we know now that our history is a lie because we know now who's been printing our books. Yeah, you know Ghislaine Maxwell's dad. Yeah Yeah Was in charge of coming up the curriculum and printing our books Yeah, our textbooks and all that was flood has been flood flooded into our educational system and pumped into our children's minds And that's what we raised on It's a rewriting of history. It's a very pretty story, but it's not true Right christopher columbus Is not terrible. Yeah, and he was not the first person here in america. He didn't discover america We know this We have evidence of you know we have I can't remember the names of we have structures that vikings built here. Yeah. Yeah Up in vikings were coming over and trading. Mm-hmm. Yeah You know, so yeah, none of this is true. We have full-on cities that we're here Um being an example Cultures that we're doing all sorts of things and trading you know down into mexico and beyond and all sorts of stuff happening that We learned nothing about Yeah So Let alone the rest of the world history story. Yeah And you know when you start figuring this out, you know the conspiracy stuff, which by the way is another term that's been You know coined by the cia to discredit people who are questioning things. Yeah, just having simple questions too. Not very simple Just a different theory. Just yeah. Can we explore this idea? No, you're in conspiracy theory and it's disinformant. It's like what? Yeah See, I've heard like Um the grand canyons. Yeah, there's like egyptian shit. Yeah, so that So that you know Here's here's my take Is if it's if it's a government government organization and they say that they So the smithsonian handles history, right? Historical stuff. They're the opposite of that So whatever You know some good thing or whatever that they say they are like the Whatever the thing was that they were doing to help children in Haiti during the earthquake and else they were doing the opposite of that They were kidnapping children Human trafficking, right You know, it's like the opposite Everything that we hear is backwards in this world and you just keep seeing seeing examples and more and more examples of that and it's like pattern recognition comes into play at a certain point And they're just want to label people that are doing that and using their brain With common sense as conspiracy theories and discredit you and things like that but the whole egypt the whole egyptian stuff and Was there were reports written on it? Yeah The smithsonian hired I can't remember that a guy's name, but he hired they hired a guy to come out and do um Like scout areas and all this stuff and he came back with reports of they're being You know egyptian artifacts and things there and he found a cave and all this stuff in it They fired him discredited and ruined his career Sent new people there and they came back and their official report was there was nothing. Yeah Just still kind of weird because if you go and you uh, you can go do this right now anybody that's watching just get on google Type in grand canyon start scrolling in on the different peaks and spots in there And they're named Temple of the Sphinx They're all named after egyptian Spots in the grand canyon all these different points inside the grand canyon are named after egyptian places I mean the whole way down the mississippi river you have cities that are named Have egyptian themed names. Yeah That's going on all over america. It's weird. You know Now this is getting into very speculative stuff, but there's all there's all there's people that are exploring ideas of like Indians actually being the original egyptians who came Across the ocean, but then stayed here and settled Makes sense. Oh, well, I mean I have no idea if that's true. I'll just put it out there. So sure actually get me in trouble for you to mention it Y'all email us instead of Email them. Yes. Yeah And we'll give you the proper response But the egyptian thing in the grand canyon that's a thing you can just google it right now and go look and everything in the grand canyon Is named after egyptian places like I watch a lot of like wi-fi's you watch wi-fi's I watch a lot of those at night to go to sleep And like he breaks shit down And then he'll say like this is what he believes and this is what he doesn't at the end But like there's so much that you can't put all of that shit out there and some of it not be true You know like not everything's a conspiracy theory and not everything's just bullshit Fucking alex jones. Yeah, like he's right sometimes like he's proven to be right like that's what he got the sandy hoot thing wrong but But there's been some stuff that he said years ago where they were calling him a conspiracy theorist quack and it's like It all ended up being true like he's I mean, yeah, you shouldn't Feel ashamed or Whatever labels like conspiracy theorists do for anybody about just asking big questions and This idea that you can't question the narrative or that Or ask might this be wrong? Yeah And say I want to explore it for myself Right like that's a bad thing. No, we've already done it for you. Right. It's like one. I would like to do it myself Yeah, I want to do it. I want to go look at it myself. Yeah, and if it's the truth it'll stand up to everything anything and everything, right? So that's you know, that's the good thing about the truth is is that it holds up under the light Yeah, you know always and and so You shouldn't be worried about people asking questions about anything if that's what the truth is Regardless of that person's background or qualifications, whatever they write, you know so Yeah, it's it's a very interesting space that I've existed with the ancient history um Hell yeah, it is. Yeah It's kind of nuts dude. Like it really is Rubbin elbows with some Like I know you probably didn't intend to do that whenever you first started But now you you just are dude like you're you're mixed up and that's just your spot. No, you're just a Yeah, um, but I but I love I love that You're just a dude doing it because you're curious about it and you wonder about it. Yeah, and you're just like You're it's it's been really interesting that The doors that have opened to allow me to like collaborate with some really cool people. Yeah And I like doing that I like collaborating with people I like working together on stuff But that's how you find truth too. You get a couple different people with different opinions about something and oh, yeah You bring them into the middle of the table and you're like, yeah, you're probably right about that And you're probably right about that and you're probably right about that and people have different skill sets. Yeah 100% some people are really good at you know, I have friends that are really good at research and remembering everything Bro, I'm not good at any of that. Yeah I Am not good, you know, you could ask me dates. I know Generally things About other places that I go to, you know Retain the information and us for us to have a conversation here like this. Yeah. Yeah If you want the exact dates of like This or that yeah, I'm not that guy and so it's good to work with people who are able to like bring that to the table well I want to bring up something because this is a really big deal for you You wrote a book dude. I did. Yeah, man. Yeah, you were you were in the throws and knee deep in that shit the last time I was was right here and Um, it's done. It's it's all done Yeah, man, um What's it called? Lost then found Lost and found Yeah, worked on worked on that book for three years And um Yeah, it was quite a process. So it actually just finished today not finished, but it's uploaded and on amazon being processed now and By the time this comes out I think the e-book will be out and within a day or two after that the The physical book copy book will be out. Yeah, so autobiography autobiography taking you through A lot of the tough shit. Yeah, my childhood up to up to now almost Yeah, a little bit before, you know, I had to cut it off at some point. Yeah. Yeah So I think it can't I think it came all the way up to the beginning of last year. I think is where it ends but um, yeah, it it It You know, it's it really weaves in my travels I told you when I first started writing in it was very linear. Yeah, so it just went straight from my childhood to now Yeah, it was fucking depressing, bro. Yeah, it was a really depressing read because it was just tough horrible shit for 36 years and then So what what what I did was we changed it up to where it was I'm telling you the story of all my travels and the moments where I've been able to look back on these really tough moments in my life and compare it To these moments that I was in traveling where things are better now. So you're seeing this dichotomy of Me living a healthy good life. Yeah And the appreciation that I have and remembering back about how bad it was And what lessons I've learned So really narratively I'm taking you from journey to journey trip to trip to trip around the world multiple times And flashing back For my childhood up until the two stories pretty much meet at the end and you get to see that process of This you know, really tough childhood all the different places I got sent to all the things that happened All the you know different things Into adulthood not just drug use losing friends You know watching people die Just a lot of stuff and That all coming up to a point Side by side with the other story of this new life when I kind of got sober And Making my way to where I'm at now meeting them in the middle. Uh-huh and then it kind of ends there Um So yeah, yeah Dude, yeah, I know that was a long time coming for you. Yeah Yeah, and there was a lot of thought that went into that the last time you were here. So it's got to be A pretty Prideful moment for you to have this thing out. Yeah, honestly, I'd be more proud of it If it hasn't taken so long now, I just want to get it out there. Yeah Just want to be done with it. Yeah, put it out there. Fuck. Yeah, and let it be And I just hope that it I hope that someone The whole reason I wrote it was I'm hoping that someone Like we were talking about earlier is that I hope that someone Can read it and maybe be like it's not too late. It's not too late or There is there could be hope I can change. Yeah It is possible to change it is possible to have all all these things happen to you in your life that you have no control over Dude, you're living proof of that still be able to change. Yeah, you are living proof of that more than Maybe anybody that I know or that I've met doing this podcast dude. Thank you like You are doing some wild shit now and you are You are intermingling with some some names in this arena that you're dancing in You know, like it's crazy, dude. It'd be all worth it. Just to like we talked about earlier just to wake up happy Yeah, because I remember Waking up not wanting to wake up. You know Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because I used to think like Now I like have plans for what I'm gonna do next week next month and next year and five years and 10 years And in my addiction it was literally I don't plan on being here tomorrow. Yeah I mean if I am cool But often not okay Like that's literally I didn't look for I didn't look towards tomorrow tomorrow's a long ways away You know and then Waking up just fucking It's an accomplishment man. It's a waking up happy. That's a yeah That's a big deal and it's something that a lot of people I think it's more valuable than anything I could get in my bank account or Anything that I could you know, it's just It's peaceful in a way that my life wasn't before and um I I I really do that's why I wrote the book and I hope that somebody if If it helped if it helped one person realize that make a change then I win Yeah, I think everything that I went through maybe it was for a reason for And that could ripple and affect something Two people maybe that could have ripple and affect their story could ripple and affect somebody else Because I do believe that I do believe that God can take Everything that was meant for bad and turn it around for good So you can take all these years that were just so bad And use them for something positive Now yeah, they're not wasted years your next 40 years are gonna be way better You know, I hope so would you rather your first 40 years be fucking amazing in the last This is the better I ask myself that all the time like would I rather like an amazing 42 years and then just fucking Or would I rather Do what I did and get to 42 and be like, you know what the next 40 years are gonna be fucking great And I'd take that all down. Yeah So you're gonna do an audiobook Yeah, I thought about that. I think I'm going to I don't know how to do that yet. I haven't even looked into it Well, when you look into it, don't let somebody else read your fucking story, dude Listen to David listen to David Goggins audiobook. Yeah when he did it with the narrator Uh, or the guy was actually actually asking him questions That one's pretty dope because it's just not him reading it to you It's all right. Well, let me ask you. Where was your mind set here? Where would you hear? Where were you and he's explaining? Well, the reason I wanted to put that in there right there is because He explains. Yeah, where he was in life at that point. It's like an audiobook discussion. Yeah, that's cool like It was pretty neat and But I was with your narration. Yeah skills, you know, you're Yeah, I've I've been I've been told enough now that I feel like I would have to narrate it Well, you like I it always kind of drives me nuts when there's like a book that I really like and I do audio books a lot Yeah, and it's like man. Why would I write this book to have someone else read it? You know, I feel like if I'm narrating a book My book, I mean You'll get you'll hear the The pain the happiness Yeah, here's what I'm speaking. Yeah Because there's there's real parts on that book in that book, you know, there's some shit I shared in there that's um You know, it's it's not easy to talk about care. It's like, um Tyler critchie I am critchie. He's a rapper here in austin. Uh-huh. He's been on a few times He makes some really good fucking music And some of his songs when he's talking about living homeless and like you can feel it Yeah, you can feel it in his lyrics. It's just like when you narrate a book Yeah, you know, you can feel like where you were in that place and where you are now You know, I always yeah, I think if you're gonna someone's gonna narrate your book you got to do it. Yeah. Yeah I I agree. I don't know how to do it yet. I'm gonna look into it. I'll probably try to knock that out here in the next couple months Um, but yeah, I I did I have Thought of that. Yeah Well, we will buy a book whenever it goes. Yeah, dude. You should make sure that you bring your ass back here because we want 100 to 100. Yeah, I signed ones. It's gonna go on our bookshelf over here. All right. These are Some of the dope And we've done that wrote books. Yeah, it'll be out All of it paperback hardback and ebook will be out this week. We're gonna do hardback Yeah, well, I will warn you just and anybody might be watching this the Amazon's publishing whatever to put the Print in color and everything like their hardbacks are just I don't remember what the price is gonna be on it But I don't think the hardback's gonna be cheap. But yeah, um, the paperback's gonna be like, I think 25 bucks ebooks 999 And um, yeah, so it's something to do with their the way amazon prints the books If you wanted it in color Just there's enough pictures in it that I was like just Let's try to save a cup, you know Black and white I just some of these places that I'm sharing pictures of are just Look, they look like ass and black and white. They're not black and white places I mean, there's the one it's the cover is me walking across uyani salt flats Which is like the place in Bolivia where it looks like a meet you're walking on A mirror for as far as the eye can see. Oh really because it's all salt flats but if Reigns at a certain time of the year and like this much water sits on it. So the whole As far as you can see looks like it's just an endless mirror really And that doesn't translate to black and white. Yeah. Yeah, that's the cover of the book. Yeah, you know So Yeah, dude No, we'll definitely pick up a one copy for here, but I definitely want to read it. Oh, yeah Give you my input. Appreciate it. And uh, dude Was such a good time having you back on here, man I love it. Yeah, this is let's see you guys again. No No, man, so You guys have more than doubled The audience the last time I was here. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it was a crush on it. Yeah So are you brother? It's uh, it's good to connect again. Yeah, man. This is always a good time It was a good time the first one. I always like having people back a second time other than me being nervous about being Pyramids you did great, man It's probably like went like the first time you ever talked to gram or jimmy Was it fucking like the first time I talked to gram? I was I don't know if I told the story last time, but I was in lebanon Uh-huh Do we have time? Do you want to hear that? Yeah, fuck yeah Yeah I've been lebanon Um I hadn't slept I came off However long it took me to fly from america to lebanon. It was a long time. I don't remember no sleep We check into the hotel in bay root. We're downtown bay roots crazy Lights are off in different parts of the city people are I we're high up on a high up floor I'm looking across there's a gutted skyscraper people are up there with burning fires and big trash bins. Yeah. Yeah um So we're trying to go to sleep and the um People next to my cousins room are ukranians and they left their techno music playing all night Nice and went out clubbing and you know I can't go to sleep either and then They start ringing a church bell right next to us at like dude 5 a.m It wasn't even they just kept ringing it for like 45 minutes. I was like, this is insane. I dropped a whole video on it I did a whole thing. This is what's happening. I'm here in bay root y'all. This is crazy And then they start doing the call to prayer which is at like 5 a.m. Yes, five. Yeah And I was just like dude. I'm fucking up. I'm up So I start looking at my phone And there's an email and since grand man cock and I'm like I've told him this too in the interview I don't know if you saw the sit down interview. I did with him. I was like I shared this with him And uh, I was like, yeah fucking right? Yeah You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm like I think at the time I was like I don't even know how many maybe I had 20 000 subs And so I open it up and it's a very simple email. It's just like hey, I like your work I want to connect real basic So I just at that point I'd gotten at least big enough that I was getting all these weird emails, right? Yeah, I thought it was just some bullshit. Yeah, you know and um, so I'm responding back to this email like very Very like my guard up. Yeah. Yeah, I'm filling it out And then I keep talking to him and I finally realized I'm like, this is this is grand hand And my cousin's there and I'm like, dude, I think I'm making him read all the whole thread Yeah, and he's responding to me instantly, which was another like red flag for me. You know what I mean? I'm I've respond I sent the email out. He responded instantly. I was like, I misspelling words or anything. No Yeah, so that was a good thing when it's like fucking sin, but it's sand. Yes. Yeah, like they they don't spell the right shit and um, but he was responding instantly so I was like That was a red flag to me And so I'm having this back and forth and making my cousin read it and then I'm probably like, dude He's saying stuff that it's like and then he's also very proper. You know, it's Yeah, he's very, you know, yeah well spoken. Yes, and uh very well mannered and um, it just you know more we talked to I was like, holy crap. This is him anyways that was amazing and we drove off that day and filled a bunch of sites and That's where we did the connoisseur site. That was our first day. Um, that where Jesus turned water to wine. Yeah drove three hours down to that site or something close to the border with israel and uh No sleep That was Quite a day very long day. Yeah, it was in total disbelief. It took me a while to Even buy that that was him contacting me Um And uh, you know, it didn't help that I was on like literally zero sleep for like two days um, but yeah a really cool moment, but uh Yeah, it was a little bit Graham's a really cool person. He's really down to earth person. So it wasn't it hasn't been that hard to like get to know Graham Yeah, he's been very gracious You know very invited me to places and into his home and Yeah, it's His hospitality. He's one of the he's one of the most genuine people especially as a friend Um that I've ever met. Yeah, really cool dude. That's awesome. That's yeah, I wish you would say that about me Hey, then you know what he's thinking about more on I love him I mean they tell you to never meet your yeah, never meet your idols. Yeah, but He's he's you know the opposite of that So Um, that's awesome. Yeah. Well, I still want to meet Tom Brady. Yeah, okay. He's gotta have fun. Yeah, dude He's probably addicted to something He's addicted to fucking He's still winning. Yeah, dude, like, you know 25 year old girl every other Week or whatever he played that flag football tournament two weeks ago. It was fucking right when he came on the field fucking touchdown I don't think he I don't think every time he got on the field they scored a touchdown Dude quit blowing Tom Brady right now. What was his contract for his for the commentator position? It was insane. I'll say it's 50 million a year I still winning he talked about coming back, but they wouldn't let him because he owns part of the Raiders Oh, really? Yeah, they wouldn't let him. Yeah, he's the owner staking the Raiders. I mean he said he was on he was on shacks podcast and He said like if I came and played right now, I would still dominate He has no doubt about it. He said what I wouldn't want to do is go through training camp and all that bullshit. He said if someone called me during the playoffs and said come play during the playoffs fucking I'm all in I mean Phillip Yeah, well all of them I mean he's got like four more fingers to put them on like he's yeah, what is he got six? Yeah seven seven chasing bill russel now Shit, yeah, I mean once all of him. He's got three three fingers left three fingers left. Yeah. Yeah, that's over four of them Yeah, he's done dude like he can't he can't milk it like LeBron dude LeBron is just a He's a shell of himself now makes me sad too because he's bad at it Tom Brady took such care of his body though. Yeah that at 40. What is he 47 48 now? If he came back and played I would be like he's about to fucking kill everybody again Because he literally just Phillip Rivers just did it, but he's not Tom Brady, bro. I understand that's are you fucking kidding me I'm proving the point is that if Phillip Rivers could do it He's feeling very good come back and do it at a high level Bro, we're talking about Tom fucking Brady. Can you stop blowing Tom Brady for fucking 30 seconds of your life? We're not talking about Brock's hurting I'm talking about Tom fucking I'm the same age as Tom Brady then. Yeah If I tried to do anything physical like that I would just break instantly break a leg or something all of it's broken Well, yeah, there's no like jukin One thing I love about Tom though is like he'll be the first to tell you look if I was a receiver Are running back? No fucking way But his skill wasn't running his skill was fucking passing and avoiding fucking rushes Stepping to the side stepping aside just As a photographic memory like that for Yeah 20 years Yeah, and your body does slow. I mean, I don't care if you run a 4 4 40 Your body slows down as I'm not as fast as I used to be. Well, bro. I couldn't right now throw a football 20 yards. Yeah, yeah my shoulders jack. Yeah, there's always something going out. It's gonna hurt. This one's just permanently messed up I play I play I play volleyball on Saturday nights. Yeah, and my hamstring within the first 30 seconds is already growing Bro, you got to get there an hour early. I don't warm up and stretch. Yeah I try to do high knees with my daughter. I coach her a volleyball team And I was they were doing high knees the other day. I was like that looks like shit. Let me show you how to do it I did three high knees and then fucking I started kicking back. I said, I hope y'all got perfect fucking lessons on that because i'm done I work out, but I don't fucking do anything running. I hate running. Yeah, I love running But I I um if this house fell on fire I'd walk Fucking as slow as I can out here Walk right out of the front door. Yeah, dude. I I love running, but I can't um, I can't do Paces like I used to yeah my knees Yeah, man, you ever do up you ever take peptides? Now everybody keeps talking about peptides. I don't know what peptides are. I take them every other day Fucking me. I tore my shoulder twice last year. Really didn't have surgery started taking peptides and it feels so What is what I don't know what anything about it. It's just you got to read up about I'll send it to you Okay, and it's it's I mean you have to you can take it through a pill or you can take it through an insulin needle Maybe you might want to take a pill but uh But I mean it's just something you it's just an insulin needle Okay, let's take it and fucking it repairs your muscles. Really repair. Yeah, this is this shoulder's been for like two years Yeah, I'm like, I guess that's just how it is I've got some if you want some I was sending you home with some shit. I believe in peptides over fucking anything All right 100% yeah, be willing to check that out um because Yeah, we're we're we're falling apart over here. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, you're going. I'm shitting my pants Yeah Shoulders are not working anymore. My shoulder doesn't work and I shit my pants. I'm the worst Shape of everybody over here Well, dude, thanks for coming bro. Thank you again and how do people find you? Subscribe wandering wolf and I always got to say wandering with an a not wondering. Yeah wandering people get confused Wandering wolf on youtube I have a secondary channel where I do I'm doing interviews with people in the ancient history community wandering wolf live Wandering wolf productions is where you can find all the stuff we've got got Conferences going on you can join me on a tour if you want to travel with me um My dupan tour sold out that's next month next tour is grease um in november we'll be going to grease with loot cabins and um Will from incredible history to big youtubers in the ancient history space So it'll be three youtubers in the ancient history space leading that tour to grease You can find that on my page and then the book um book coming out and uh Yeah, I should be by the time this airs it should be out or within a day or two What's the name of the book lost then found lost in yeah, you'll be able to find it on amazon It's gonna be a couple other spots to you, but that'll be the easiest place to find it'll all be linked on my website Which is wandering wolf productions.com Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Good. Let's get I got it. I think that's it. We're doing a conference here in austin What are you doing that in october? so Randall carlson Much of people coming here. We're putting in on an acl And uh doing a whole three day event there sandwiched right between acl Event and The uh Bracing fan F1 f1 We're in the weekend before between those two. We'll be there. Yeah October 17th through the 19th. I think hey dude rock our two addicts in the moron shirt there. Hell. Yeah He's so good. You guys gotta come man Yeah, we'll be there some tickets. Oh, yeah, let's go. All right. All right. Well, we got one in the books Love y'all. Thanks everybody