1456 - Livie Blainn on Hosting Swinger Parties, Being a Hot Wives & Her New “Auntie Nation” Tour
73 min
•May 13, 202618 days agoSummary
Livie Blaine, a lifestyle entrepreneur and adult content creator, discusses her 20-year journey in the swinging community, her evolution from party host to porn producer, and her new 'Auntie Nation' tour—a reality TV-style streaming event featuring 10 women across multiple US cities that blends behind-the-scenes lifestyle content with professional adult film production.
Insights
- The lifestyle community has professionalized significantly, with experienced participants like Blaine transitioning from underground hobby hosting to legitimate business operations with production companies and branded tours.
- Body positivity and inclusivity in adult content production can be a competitive differentiator; Blaine's casting philosophy (all body types, races, sizes) reportedly outperforms traditional industry standards.
- Reality TV transparency in adult entertainment creates audience loyalty; showing unglamorous moments (travel, makeup, exhaustion) humanizes performers and builds parasocial connection with viewers.
- Non-monogamy and polyamory require explicit communication frameworks; Blaine's relationships function through clear agreements about disclosure, testing, and boundaries rather than traditional relationship models.
- Platform management at scale requires constant daily attention; content creators managing multiple social channels, production, and live streaming simultaneously face severe time constraints that limit expansion.
Trends
Professionalization of lifestyle events: transition from underground parties to branded, ticketed, streamed experiences with production valueReality TV format adoption in adult content: behind-the-scenes streaming and 24/7 documentation becoming expected content formatBody-positive casting as market differentiation: rejection of traditional beauty standards in adult entertainment correlating with higher engagementPolyamory normalization: younger generations adopting non-monogamous relationship structures with explicit consent frameworksCreator economy consolidation: individual performers building vertically integrated businesses (production, distribution, events, talent management)Location-based event tourism: adult lifestyle events becoming destination experiences with multi-day hotel takeovers and travel packagesStreaming as primary distribution: live-streaming events and behind-the-scenes content replacing traditional pre-recorded content modelsInfluencer-led community building: established personalities creating branded communities (Discord, Patreon) as primary revenue and engagement mechanism
Topics
Hot wife lifestyle and relationship structuresSwinging culture and lifestyle eventsNon-monogamy and polyamory relationship modelsAdult content production and pornography industryContent creator business models and platform managementReality TV format in adult entertainmentBody positivity in adult entertainmentLifestyle event hosting and hotel takeoversCommunity building through Discord and PatreonSexual health and consent frameworksInfluencer economics and personal brandingLive streaming and 24/7 content distributionCuckold and hotwife fantasy contentInterracial content and niche market segmentsCreator burnout and time management
Companies
SDC.com
Adult dating platform where Livie met her current husband; host offers free trial code to listeners
We Buy Any Car
Car sales service featured in pre-roll advertisement
Microsoft 365
Productivity software suite featured in pre-roll advertisement with AI Copilot features
Quince
Clothing retailer featured in mid-roll advertisement; host promotes spring wardrobe collection
VB Health
Supplement brand producing Drive Boost for sexual health; featured in mid-roll advertisement
Shopify
E-commerce platform featured in mid-roll advertisement for business launch
People
Livie Blaine
Guest discussing 20-year lifestyle journey, porn production company, and Auntie Nation tour launch
Kathy
Host conducting interview with Livie Blaine about lifestyle and content creation
Quotes
"You could love steak, but you don't want to eat steak seven days a week for the rest of your life."
Livie Blaine•Discussing variety in relationships and non-monogamy
"I don't yuck anybody's yum. Everybody has their own thing. And I'm like, listen, if you're happy and healthy and safe, I'm cool."
Kathy•On accepting different relationship styles
"What does a hot wife look like? What does a milf look like? If you're a childbearing age or you have children, you are technically a milf."
Livie Blaine•Discussing body positivity in adult content casting
"There's only 24 hours in the day and I have to eat and sleep in some of them."
Livie Blaine•On managing multiple platforms and content creation
"I don't understand why you put people on a pedestal. They still have to eat, shower, shit. Right. Everything else the same as you do."
Livie Blaine•On humanizing content creators and performers
Full Transcript
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And the audiobook is finally available for pre-order. It's hard to find because it's still on pre-order, but if you go to the description, the links to the books on Amazon as well as the Audible book are in the description. If you buy the book, just send me a screenshot and I'll send you the link to my private Discord. You'll love my Discord. Okay, it's great. You'll also love my Patreon. It's great. Last thing I want to talk to tell you about is I do have a great free trial that you could use for sdc.com. sdc.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site, but it's so much more than a dating site. I mean, you can use it to hook up with people instead of three sums and all the kind of stuff that people do on my show. But you could also use it to find out about meetups and events in your areas as well as learn stuff about the lifestyle. They have so much information on sdc.com. And if you use my code 37712, you'll get a free trial that's 37712. So if you're just go to the description and click on the link and it'll take you right there and get and set you up with a free trial. So anyway, today I have on LivyBlaing. Now I have to be honest, I talk to just like regular people most of the time every now and then nowadays I do have some experts on that. I have to look them up ahead of time. But I knew LivyBlaing was coming in to talk about like an event and a tour that's going down called Auntie Mae. What I didn't realize beforehand when I went into the call that she is like the one setting it up, running it, putting it together. And not only is she the one doing all of that for this Auntie Mae live event that she talks about. It's so super interesting what she's doing. It's kind of like reality TV porn story style. She also has been like leading up and heading up like lifestyle events and meetups and everything like her whole life. She's just super interesting. She has a very interesting life story. We start from like her first cock husband who cheated on her and then we get into like how she just then got into the lifestyle. She's very non-monogamous. She's very open. She now considers herself Polly. She's got a new husband and a boyfriend and she's down for everything. She shoots porn. She does porn. She's got her own production company. She now has this Auntie Mae tour that's so interesting. Like I said, she's doing like a reality TV behind the scenes. Like you're going to see all these aunties that she calls them and you know with cucks and stuff all shooting scenes and everything. But you're going to see them not just shooting scenes. You're going to be able to see the before them checking into the hotel, them waking up, putting on their makeup, going to sleep. Like all that kind of good stuff. It's like a very behind the scenes look into that world, which I think is a super interesting idea that she's putting together. She's got all the details about those events. Her whole life story is super interesting. You might know her, Livy Blean. Like I said, I didn't realize she was as big as she was and as into the world professionally as she was. But she's great. You're going to love her. Like I said, her name is Livy Blean. All her links will be in the description. Anyway, I'm going to go right to it and be right back on with Livy. Hi, Livy Blean. Hi, Livy Blean. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Listen, Livy Blean. You just said, oh, I'm at a lifestyle event and I snuck off to, you know, call into the shower. And I was like, yeah, there's swingers all around you having sex, right? The R, yes. During the day? Does it go down even during the day or is it just a nighttime thing? Oh, it does. 24-7? Oh, no, no, no. We're, yeah, kind of 24-7. It's just like, yeah. It's just like, hey, hi. What's the name of the event that you're at? Like is it a Splash Mocha? Is it the tour that you're on? Yeah, no, no, you hit it first there. Splash Mocha. Oh, Splash Mocha. So you must be a hot wife, a white hot wife. Yes. Okay, Livy. Everyone wants to know like the hot wife story. Like what's your background? Are you married still? Are you a married woman? Are you not? Like what's your deal and I'm assuming you're married. Do you know, I'm married just now, but I've always, even when I've been single, I've kind of identified as a hot wife. Yeah. Like it's never really been a, because I've had partners and play partners and it's always been like, hey, I'm going to do this. And they're like, cool. And a lot of the other times they're like, yeah, you know, that's cool. Tell me about it or send pictures or you know, whatever. So it's just kind of been my lifestyle. Right. Like a hot wife doesn't have to be married or be a wife, right? A hot wife is somebody that enjoys not just being with this one guy, right? Like other men, even when in a relationship. Inship. Yes. I mean, my first husband was a cuckold. Oh, he was. Yeah. And I didn't know. We got married and he was just like, what's wrong with you? He's like, and then I eventually figured out like, I was like, ah, because when I met him, he wasn't a stringer. He didn't want to be into swinging. So he was like, can you come out the lifestyle? Like I'm not okay with it. And then I'm like, yeah, but had you told me this? I said, I could have continued the lifestyle and you could have watched and like. Wait, we have to go all the way back because you're starting at a super interesting point. But I need to know like when the fuck you met him. How? First of all, let me get a snapshot of where you're at now. You are currently married, right? Is this your second husband, third husband? Second husband. Okay. That was your first one. So, but you said you mentioned, oh, I was in the lifestyle before him. So like, let's go all the way back. Okay. First of all, how old are you around now? Yeah, I'm far East. Okay. There you are. Okay. You're 43. So let's go back though. Like when did you get into the lifestyle? Oh, like 20 years ago. Okay. So you're like young. Okay. Cause you said you're 40 something now. So 20 something here. You are a single girl. Do you get into the lifestyle by yourself? Are you dating someone? No, I was by myself. Um, I was actually finishing. I was modeling and the videographer photographer was like, Hey, um, do you want to come to a party? And I was like, yeah, why not? Like go to a party. So I'm at this party and, you know, people are drinking, you know, drinks the floor and people in that room. And then I was like, so you've introduced me. He's like, you know, this is so, so, so husband or wife or whatever. And then they just vanish. And I'm like, okay, where did they go? And then like, you know, later on, I'm like, oh, so wait, your wife was just, I'm like, did I get it wrong? I was like, are you married to so-and-so? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, okay. And I'm like, you know what, not my business. Say nothing. So are you trying to say that you're figuring out that like sex is going down in this party, but you have no clue? Yeah. And I'm like, oh, okay. I'm like, I was like, this is like being a teenager. Like we all just take fucks off to a room and fucks. And I'm like, okay, this is, this is like being in a party for the teenagers and everybody's fucking. But these are married people. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, okay, but you're not fucking your husband. I'm like, what is, oh, I'm like, you know what, nothing to do with me. I'm saying nothing. I'm keeping this. Right. So they were like, no, this is normal. And I'm like, what is normal? This is what we do. And I'm like, oh, okay. Well, listen, I mean, this was like, like, I feel like it's people are a bit more open-minded now, you know, 20 years later, it's a much different world. But 20 years ago, that must have been so out of the left field for you as a young girl living during those times. Because not a lot of people were a part of that world. Well, see, I just like, all I remembered it was, was like being a teenager and we would have these house parties when somebody's parent was away and we'd all be fucking in different rooms and we'd all swap partners because all of us were single. And I was like, well, this is kind of like being a teenager, but like, you know, married. Wait, where's your accent from, by the way? Did you grow up in the States? I'm from Scotland. Okay. So how old were you when you moved here? Two years, pretty much. Well, I've been in and out of the States. I've been to like Thailand and Columbia and Jamaica and all over the place the last few years. Right. But I'm predominantly in and out of the States. Oh, okay. So now where was this going down where you get invited to a sex party in your 20s? Was this in Scotland? It was, yeah. Okay. Okay. Now was it more open-minded there at that time than it was here? No, like it was very underground. You used to like call people and be like, yeah, we're going to have an evening. Are you available on? It wasn't really discussed. Right. So it still was like pretty crazy for you to wind up at a sex party even there? Yeah. And then we had a website called Fab's Fingers and people used to go on there and it was very much, you know, you would put a picture and put a date up like, hey, I want to meet somebody or hey, I'm going to be such and such place. And I didn't even realize the website was there until a few years later. And one of my girlfriends had said, hey, we all might be dating the same guy. And I was like, what do you mean? And she's like, well, we'd all started to download like the dating apps when they started to come out. So they were like, have you spoke to this person, this person? And then one of my girlfriends was like, are you talking to so-and-so on Fab? And I'm like, what an effort of Fab. Right. And then we all kind of like, you know, joined the tease in the eyes and it was like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, we're all fucking the same people. Okay. But were you all in the lifestyle? Did you all wind up in the lifestyle? We were, but none of us spoke about it because it wasn't really a spoken thing. It was just kind of like, yeah, I'm going to go on a date, which is completely normal as a single guy. I'm going to go on a date and nobody thinks anything of it. You know, like you date as many guys until, you know, the one says, hey, you know, we're together kind of thing. So it was people that had the same mindset as you. So you know, if you were like, hey, like, really, three some, and even now you meet some people, if you were to say that they would have like a connipation right in front of you. Right. Of course. But, but a lot of people back then were like, yeah, I've got this buddy or, you know, I've got this girlfriend and I said, ah, you're very similar minded. This is cool. Okay. Well, you go, well, you, the first time you went up at a sex party, do you wind up having a three summer doing anything crazy? Is that when you first started doing stuff like that? Well, see, we were having three summers when we were in high school. Oh yeah. It was just normal. It was normal. What town did you grow up in? Where are you living in Scotland? Yeah, that's okay. That's okay. But I said, I found a kind of hella normal. But then when I was trying to date guys, they were like, I've never had a three summer. Do you mean no? And I'm like, oh, okay, am I the odd one out here? Like, because y'all seem to be like, like sort of verse to this and I'm like, okay, maybe I'm the one that's like, had a totally different until I met like, you know, the people that I would call like my people. And I'm like, oh, this is normal. Yay. Right. There are. Right. There are other people. And but I do believe though, that those very early on sexual experiences definitely wire you into like what you're very into later on, right? And because you had all those experiences when you were younger, that that's of course why you became somebody that was open to those experiences moving forward because those were like your first hookups, right? Yeah. So it was normal. That's what we would Skype class and go have sex. Oh my God. No, that teacher doesn't take register. Like, yeah, we can do this. It's fine. Yeah. Okay. So now you go to that sex party, you know, do you continue to get into those parties in that world? Because it's one thing going on dates and having three sons with your friends and stuff. But like the whole lifestyle is like the parties and the swing your clubs and all that kind of stuff. Is that what you got involved? Yeah. So I hosted. Yeah. I hosted for over 10 years. Oh, what? I hosted events for over 10 years in the UK. And people would always just like, we'd kind of gravitate toward me and they're like, oh, we can do like a central meeting point and it'd be great to meet other people. And I'm like, well, I don't mind meeting people on social. So I was like, okay, let's do socials. So I think like in America, they call them meeting Greeks. But back then it was a social. So we would all meet up in a bar and have drinks and stuff. And then, you know, if you wanted to do anything you could, you know, you go back to the 70s hotel or whatever. But it was that kind of premise. There was no expectations. This was literally let's go for drinks and talk to people. Right. And that's typically what meetups are all about, right? And that's why a lot of people, it's a great first experience because there is no pressure to really do anything, especially for newbies, right? Yeah. Okay. Listen, spring is here. Thank God. I totally prefer the warmer weather. 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Everything they have is great and you'll be super impressed with not only the price, but the attention to detail and the quality of the clothing. So what are you waiting for? Go refresh your every day with luxury. You'll actually use head to quince.com slash strictly a non for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in Canada too. Quince.com slash strictly a non for free shipping and 365 day returns Quince.com slash strictly a non or just go to the description and click on the link. It's a good kind of a thing. Okay. So you're hosting parties. I mean, it sounds like you're such a professional that you've done so much, right? That, you know, we could like go through your younger years pretty quick, right? So you're hosting parties, you're heavily involved and this just becomes like your way of life, like right from the get go it sounds like. It does. Yeah. It just, you know what? I started to struggle, you know, fitting in my vanilla. So I've been my day job and I'm like, I don't understand any of these conversations. I'm like, what is this? You mean regular people's conversations? Yeah. I'm just like, I can't deal with this. I'm like, what is this? Like, I don't, I'm like, I don't fit into this world. I'm like, hold on. And it became very, because it was like, it was like kids husband morning complaining. And I'm like, yeah, just miserable. Like, what do you mean? I was like, all you do is complain about your other half. Like, yeah, yeah, right. And I'm like, is this what like your world consists of? And they're like, what do you mean? And I was like, well, all my partners are dope. Right. Yeah. They're like partners. I'm like, yeah, partners. My partners are dope. So you were never an agamist. No. And I won't cheat. So when I met my first husband, he was not into it at all. He struggled with it. So for him, I came out of the lifestyle. Oh, you did? How old were you when you met your first husband? Um, I was what, 24 when I first met him. Oh, so you were young. I'm surprised you gave it all up for him. You must have really been into him. But you know what to begin with, because we were still like casually dating for the first year or so, I was still in the lifestyle. And then it wasn't until, you know, we talked about moving in together and stuff. And I was like, okay. Um, so I think by the time I've hit like 25, 25, 26, when we officially tried to like be like serious, serious, it was like, okay. And he's like, you know, we should look at, you know, living together and I'm like, all right. And he's like, yeah, I'm not too keen on. And I was like, okay. You were so involved. Yeah. At that point. And I was like, well, do you know what? I was like, you know, I've had a lot of fun and I've still got friends in the lifestyle and like, you know, we can try it. You know, let's see. Right. And um, I got to the point. I was like, I hate this. I was like, I just, what did you mean about it? Like you really need, like you really need variety and stuff. Yeah. Like, you know what? You could love steak, but you don't want to eat steak seven days a week for the rest of your life. Yeah. And I was like, oh, is that interesting? They do. I mean, we're all wired. Different. All my family, they are like, all of my family, they're all monogamous. Right. They look at me as if I've grown five heads. Because they know who you are. Like you're out and proud. Yeah. And I'm like, but I'm happy and they're like, but how can you be happy? Like what's wrong with one person? I'm like, why do you expect one person to be everything? Right. And I feel like, can you also, right? But can't you also like, I feel like a lot of times, whether you're at any side that you're on, you should be able to accept the other person side as well. You know, a lot of times like the very conservative people look at the people that aren't conservative and like, oh my God, how can you be that way? But you know, for me, I've always looked like everyone's just different. Even monogamous people, they have every right to be that way and they're happy that way. And I totally get that. And then non monogamous people are that same way. But sometimes everyone looks at the other person like, how the fuck can you be you? But you know, it's just, we're all different and that's okay. Yep. That's fine. I never do. I say to people, if I don't yuck, anybody's yum. Exactly. Everybody has their own thing. And I'm like, listen, if you're happy and healthy and safe, I'm cool. You know what I mean? Like, we're good. Right. And you were always honest, it sounds like. So you meet this guy, you're married to him, but you're just not happy in this monogamous like white picket fence marriage that you're in. Yeah. Because I'm a flirtatious person normally and I don't want to be accused of cheating. And I'm like, well, I'm not cheating. I'm just naturally flirtatious. Right. And I don't mean anything. I'm by it. But I don't want to have to spend my entire life watching, have I, you know, have I offended somebody about their joke king or, man, this is a lot. And so did you end the marriage and how soon after? So once you got married, like sex stopped. And I was like, I thought this was meant to be a joke, you know, when you get married sex stops. And he was just like, hmm. I really stopped. Because before, before, because before we got married, like the sex are totally tapered off. And I was just a stress of the wedding and I'm like, okay, I was like, I mean, I can maybe see it, but me personally, I'm still fine. But okay. Okay. But I get it affects everybody differently. So I'm like, okay, cool. So once you got married and I was like, okay, this is not. And then he would be like, I'd be a couple of them. Like, what, why are you going through my phone? I was like, what do you think you're going to find in my phone? And he's like, well, it goes off all the time. I'm like, yeah. Like, like what are you trying to find? And he's like, why does it start to be nosy? And I'm like, well, you can look what you want. Like there's nothing in there. I'm like, if you want to look at the girls chat, feel free. Like it's very exciting. Right. Because I've came out of that life. I've had to stop talking to all the guys I used to hook up with and stuff. So you were very trustworthy, but because he knew of your past, he got nervous sometimes. But eventually you did sort of go leave that relationship because you wanted to do what you were doing previously. Like you weren't happy. But when I left him, I then found out he'd been cheating on me for like five years. No way. No way. Yeah. Oh my God. Is that why he never wanted sex? Because he was getting it somewhere else. Oh my God. So he was a cuckold, but he didn't, he found me too dominant. Wait a second. Normally that's every cuck's fantasy, that dominant woman. Yeah. And he was like, oh, like you're just too forthright for me to deal with this kind of thing. And I was like, but you could just folks me. I was like, I said, you went and had a whole ass affair. Like, and I stopped everything. Oh, how confusing for you. Yeah. Because here you are. I'm a super open-minded woman that would have been down. He's holding you back from all of your desires yet. He's going behind your back and living at all of his. What a terrible. No. I mean, I caught him with a girl years ago and he was like, it's nothing. It's nothing. And I was like, well, holding hands under the table isn't really nothing. But okay. It's like, if that's what you're saying, it's nothing. And then you found out she was the one. Was it a long-term affair? Yeah. One person? No, it was her the whole time. And I was like, you could have just said like, you know, I'd have been. Whatever. Right. So you guys got divorced because of that? Yeah. Because I was just like, you know, I was like, you know what? You've lied. I was like, I've never lied. Like even when he nice fuck and I was seeing somebody else, like he knew about it. That wasn't hide and innocent. I had nothing to hide. Right. Yeah. Isn't it interesting that he was the one looking through your phone? Because he was like, well, I thought I'd see a dick picture or something. And I'm like, you're looking for dick pictures? I was like, why? How would you be looking for a dick picture? Yeah. Oh my God. You didn't have kids or anything with him, did you? Yes. We have a child. Oh, so you stay in contact? Go on though, because you've had so much since that guy. Okay. So now you go back, I'm assuming after you get divorced, you go right back into the lifestyle. Oh God, yeah. I was at Kinkabit four days after I sent Reed. I was like, oh my days, I want to be, I want to be a real person again. Right. Right. And now where were you living at that time? Did you move from Scotland? Were you still there? No, I was, I was still in Scotland. I was still in Scotland. I was still in Scotland up until 11 years ago. Okay. And then when did you officially become like a hot wife or do you always feel like you always were one? I think I've always, because before I was with him, I used to have my regular partners and I would still go out and have sex with a man. They knew about it. You know, they would enjoy hearing about it. So for me, it was just a normal kind of thing. Right. But when you divorced him, did you go, did you just decide you're not going to have any more monogamous relationships and you had just like ones where, you know, you were like hot wifeing with the guy? Yeah. And then I was just like, listen, I can't, I can't do this, this regular ass thing. I was like, it's weird. Like it clearly doesn't work because I would open it on as a new cheat. I was like, so what's the point? I'd rather be in a lifestyle. All right. So when did you get into all like your like hotel takeovers and going to Splash Mocha and all your experiences once you were single and, you know, out there in the lifestyle those 11 years? Like what did you wind up doing and getting into? Just go back to hosting parties. Like, yeah, tell me about the progression. Yeah. I mean, because in Scotland, there are only two swinging clubs and only two lifestyle clubs and they're very separate, like the miles and miles apart. You couldn't attend both of them one evening or anything. And there wasn't really much to do. So a friend of mine, he and I used to host like private parties in Scotland. But there was nothing really there. So when I decided to leave, I had moved down to the middle of England and there was more there, but there still wasn't a lot there. So we, I was a couple of friends that I'd made down there. They were like, oh, like there's such a split because, you know, these days single men can't come and these days they just couples only and do, do, do, do. And the only time you could go out as a single was really a Friday night. So I was like, well, why don't we try and bridge the gap and at least have like social gatherings and people can get to know each other away from the internet. It was great. It went from 30 people, the first one to six tapes and 90 to I think that we're having to rent out an entire club and it's 500 people. Wow. And you were hosting those parties. Yes. Now, did you get to have fun at those parties or when you're hosting, you're like too busy tending to everyone? You're usually too busy. There'd be the odd occasion where I'm like, okay, the doors are closed, like, you know, last entry is here. And I'm like, okay, cool. Like now I can play a little bit. Yeah. And then you know, there's somebody that caught your eye and then it was like, you know what, let's arrange to meet up another time. Like it's hella busy. I'm still technically got my host hat on. So I can't just, you know, abandon all responsibility. Right. So it was good for that. You know, I had a huge social circle and then I had other clubs reach out to me in the UK saying like, hey, we would love for you to come and host. So I would do like, you know, steam to play parties, interracial parties, hot wife parties up and down the country. Wow. And this is really, you were really like adding up that whole thing and you were putting everything together. And this went on till COVID when everything shut down, like, oh my God, I was still hosting. I was still hosting till like the week before lockdown. Oh my God. And then what was it like when your whole world got shut down? That was crazy. It was horrendous. I'm like, what do you mean you can't go to people's houses? What do you mean you can't go to hotels? What do you mean there's no dick? I'm like, what? I was like, do I have to date again? And I'm like, what is this? I was like, no. But how does though the woman who's always working and putting together everything and always like heading things up and so busy sort of taking care of everybody else, how were you getting your needs met? Like where were you having all your options? I wasn't. It was a running joke that I was a sexless singer. Yeah, exactly. Not true choice. You were too busy. You were too busy, right? Yeah. So it was definitely never true choice, but it was kind of like, okay, you know, like I'm going to have to sacrifice a little bit, you know, so other people can actually have something. But you must have liked it. You must have enjoyed what you were doing. Is that what you like wound up doing for a living? Like, or was that your main thing or was that a side hustle? Oh, no, that was a side hustle. I still had a full time day job. So it would be like, okay, I'm going to host on a Saturday night. So on a Friday night, I'm going to go out and I'm going to do what I want in one of the clubs that I would go to and then on a Saturday I'll host. Or I'll host on a Thursday and then I'll go out on a Friday. So there was a little bit of balance, you know, as much as I could, I could try and, you know, chuck in between parent, who did and work and everything else. Yeah. And now because you said you were out and proud, like, did your child know what you were into? Did your family know? Like, did they find out? And that's how they found out? Or were you just always open about it? So I told my elder since he was getting older, I was like, hey, you're getting to the teenage and you're going to be on the internet. I was like, so if your friends talk about swinging and he's like, yeah, he's like, what about it? And I was like, well, I was like, I'm on the website and he's like, wait, he's like, you're the blue haired lady they talk about, right? I was like, I don't know. What do you mean you're the blue haired lady? Because my hair was blue forever. Okay. So I was just like, maybe he's like, no, no, maybe. He's like, what is wrong with you? I was like, no, there's definitely something wrong with you. Yeah. I was like, I'm like, I love you. He's like, no. And then because I was kind of seeing somebody, I mean, he was older, he was like 18. And I was like, hey, I need you to watch your sister. And he's like, why? I was like, because, because he's like, no, he's like, I'm not watching her. I'm free to go have sex. I was like, well, you kind of are because I have a through some plans or there we go. I was like, otherwise you can do that. And I can go get a review. So he's like, oh my God. I was like, thank you. Bye. Right. So he just, he just had to accept it because it was what it was. Yeah. And yeah. And then as my daughter got older, I had said to her and she was like, okay, she's like, I don't understand it. But why? I was like, you know, I was like, listen, I was like, you, you like, you can buy a multi pack box of crisps, right? And she's like, yes, or chips as we call them here. And she's like, yeah. I said, right. I said, but you've got your favorite flavor. And then you've got the one and then you've got the one. And she's like, yeah. I said, that's him of you men. Right. So she jokes now. She's like, you've got holes in different area of gold. She's like, but she's like, but you do. I'm like, yes, I do. But that's not the point. Wait. So you've always had that blonde hair, right? That's what you're saying, right? That's how you've always been. The blonde blue. Yeah. It's been like that forever. Right. And were you always very highly sexed up? Like if, if, like, do you always just have a very super high sex drive or no? Oh God, yeah. Yeah. Right. 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All you got to do is go to the description and click on the link and use my code strictly. And so you would put together all the different kinds of events like you're at Splash Mocha now, right? So I mean, so back in the day when you were putting together these events, you realized like people like this kind of stuff. So you did interracial events and everything. Now when did you stop posting eventually and start like having more fun? Cause you said you were like at one time like sexless almost. So when the world went back to resuming after COVID, the swimming scene in the UK was incredibly different. It was not the scene that I knew. It wasn't even something that I recognized because when people were locked down, obviously people found out about swimming, they joined the website. As far as they were concerned, it was like find a fuck. And I'm like, no, I was like, it's a community. These people that I've known, I've known for years, we can go out. We don't even necessarily have to have sex. We just have this friendship. And the new people that joined it were like, well, if I've got to pay like $100 to come to this party, I'm fucking everybody in here. That's not swinging. I hate to break it to you. That's not that's not swinging. Right. And then I'll have paid this. Like, no, you've paid an entry fee. Like if you go to the movies, you're paying an entry fee. That doesn't mean you get to watch every movie that's in that theater. You watch that one film that you have paid for. I said, so you're paying to enter a premises. You're not paying to have sex with everybody. These are not prostitutes. These are swingers. Right. Big difference. So, so I did a few parties and that was very much a lot of people's mindset. And I was like, you know what? No, I'm good. Right. But this is not for me. And I'd done content years before and I'd taken a break and I focused more on swinging and I'd every so often do content. And then I was like, well, you know what? If I was not going to go back to normal real swingers, I was like, I'm just going to focus on content. And, you know, at least that way, safe sex with, you know, property-minded people who mainly were lifestyle anyway. So, right. That's what I think a lot of people exactly. And I think a lot of people get that wrong because I know that like, listen, I've been talking to lifestyle people for 12 years now, right? That's how long I've been podcasting. I used to get my people from Craigslist and a lot of the times when I have people on that are now content creators, a lot of times my audience who are listening are a regular people are like, oh, that person, like they sort of like automatically assume that that person that's doing content is just doing it for content. But typically when I'm talking to the person that's doing content, they were doing living this lifestyle way before they started doing content, right? It's just a matter of like, eventually now everyone does it. So why not? You know what I mean? But it's most of the time it's not like these people started to do content started to do this, this lifestyle at the same time. They were in the lifestyle before, like you said. Yep. So it kind of made sense. And it's like, well, you know what? You've got a good mindset. You're open, you're honest, you're transparent, you know, all our testing is in place. Like, why not? Right. It makes much more sense. Now this tour that you're on, what is it called? The anti, what is the tour that you're on now? Auntie, Auntie, Auntie Nation. Auntie Nation. Okay. What is that all about? And could you explain it to everybody? And you're, I'm assuming you're not running it. You're just a part of it or both? No, I own it. Oh, you do? This is, oh, this is your tour. Okay. Yeah. This is your mind. You're the person running it. I thought, I feel like did you come through me with this other woman? Yeah. She's one of the girls, ladies, this is real. You need to reach out and talk to her. Yeah. I didn't know she was sending me the person that's running it all. I thought you were just sending me some people that are like, are involved. Like, oh, so you put this together. Yeah. Explain it all about it. So obviously there's always been the hot wives, the milfs, the gilfs. But a lot of people that come into content, you know, they might be a mil for a hot wife, but the big studios, they won't cast them because they don't look the part. And I'm like, well, what does a hot wife look like? What does another milf look like? If you're a childbearing age or you have children, you are technically a milf. Because there's a man that wants to put his dick in you, you're a milf. So why do you have to look a certain way? Right. And a lot of people, oh, I've got tattoos and, OK, it's the 21st century. People have tattoos. Right. People are going to have tattoos. Like, I don't understand where the negativity and the body's shame then comes from or you're above this certain size or you're this way. Right. And you realize that most black men want to want to fuck a thick girl. They don't want skin and bones. Like they like having some pattern. Yeah. So it became, you know, I talked to the girls and whatnot. And I said, listen, like, so a lot of the guys I work with, they call me auntie. Like, you know, I was like, yeah, you're like the hot aunt. Like, you're the aunt we want to fuck. Interesting. OK. So I was like, you know what? I was like, we I need to like. So, you know, I researched it. Nobody else was using it. There was nothing really, you know, about that. I mean, yes, you hear the word auntie, you know, certain societal references as the hot aunt or the one, you know, the renegade aunt or, you know, the farm aunt or whatever. Yeah. But nothing in industry. Right. So I was like, well, Soda, I was like, why don't we have a tour of hot aunts like let's go location to location. Let's get the guys that want to fuck a hot aunt. Interesting. And you're going to be open in this in this tour. Like you're doing what you talked about before, whereas like these people don't look like they don't have to look a certain way. I mean, you're open to everything and anything because that's what people like at the end of the day. I am very I am very body positive. So yeah, when I launched my production company back in 24. Yeah. My production company has every shape, size, race, like you name it. There is no you have to look like this or that. No, like people love people, you know, right? Some of the people that like you wouldn't even go. Oh, well, you think that a porn star because you would never they don't look like what the company's forecast of putting the public arena is they are. And they're like the biggest sellers on the platform. I was going to say that's probably what sets you apart because it's more real. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because it's like, oh my God, I could probably meet a girl who looks like that at a bar. Exactly. I probably met her in a bar. Yeah. And what I could fuck a porn star. Wow. I didn't even know what's your production company name. And my production is Darlo entertainment. OK. And what did you start doing like films and everything? Like what do you produce? It was films. So a lot of people would be like, hey, can you film for me? And I'm like, yeah. And then I was like, well, wait, why don't we all go to one central location? Like I'll pay for this house, but I get a copy of the video. Like you can have coffee. Do what you like with it. I'll have a copy. Now it's like that kind of recoups eventually some of the money that I've laid out. Oh, so that's what you do in exchange. You were doing like an exchange. I'll film you. You give me your stuff and then I could I have rights to it. Like you can air it or something like that. Basically, otherwise you can pay my rate as a videographer and you can pay to rent the space. Right. And a lot of people like, oh, I can't afford that. And I'm like, yeah, like a lot of people can't afford it. Right. A lot of people don't get very far in the industry because nobody wants to phone at the bottom of the bed and you can't see anything. Right. Exactly. Right. So you're giving them high quality stuff or like a real right. Right. So they don't have to bother with it. And so you started the production company and then so what is this tour about? How many women did you bring in? How many aunties are there? Including me, there's 10 in total. And Miami, there's going to be six of us. OK. And how many locations are you going to and how long is like this tour going on? So this will go on most of this year. So the first two, we're going to be there about a week. And then in other states, we're going to do like three, four days because obviously you've got your travel day. You can't you know, you can't check into anywhere to like three, four p.m. Et cetera. So people are tired the first day. So if you do like three days, that's a good kind of, you know, get shoots done. This people time, especially people that still work and do content. So right on a balance for other people. So we're going to try and hit as many states as possible. You know, I've had ever since I announced the tour, I've had people from all over the country like, please come here, please, please, please, please. And I'm like, OK, what are the and how do people find out where you're going to be? Where the tour is set to go as of now? So I so I just saw on Twitter, it's on Instagram, we have the map. I've not listed tour dates yet. I was like, listen, all the two dates will be announced. But we want to see how Miami goes and then look at everybody's schedule and say, right, when are we free? Like who's free on these days, these days? You know, does it time with another event? Does it time with the convention? Does it time with people that's going to be in certain areas? Oh, right. That's right. Maximize. Yeah. So if we've got like the award show, so, you know, Urban X is in August. So, you know what? We'll hit a pelion August, probably. It makes sense. We can go to the award show and we can shoot. And then he was going to be tested because everyone's going to be attending there anyway for that reason. Right. That's smart. So you'll tag it along with stuff like that. And what goes down at each event? Is it like a big swing or party? Is it held at like a hotel? Is it like a hotel takeover? Is it a venue? Like what? No. So it's it's a mainly it's a lot of scenes. It's like girl, girl, boy, girl, three service orgies, gang bans. You know, people will say, hey, I need this in my catalog. I don't have very many like three systems with another girl. OK, cool. Like so we'll get, you know, three or four in that week. Oh, so the tour is like it's like a video tour. Yeah. So we're in a video tour. So we're going to do it as like a reality TV show. It's like, what are they going to get up to? Oh, OK. So it's kind of like, but people could peek in and watch. Like that's what it's going to be. Yes. It's not like an event that could go to. It's something that people will be able to see. Oh, they can. Oh, they can. They can. They can still attend. Yeah. But I say like everything's going to be streamed. I mean, apart from like, you know, I was going for a shower and trying to, you know, have five minutes to ourselves. But the majority will be streamed. So you can see what it's like because people have these weird notions that you go to a shoot house and if it is fucking for a minute, we can't actually go to sleep. I'm like, no. Like Jesus Christ, no. So this is going to be streaming like 24 seven in the house, like for that time that you're there or something like that. As much as we can. So kind of like behind the scenes. You can't stream sleeping. Yeah. Because we can't stream when people are sleeping. So, you know, it's the bedtime. We won't be streaming, but, you know, the regular morning routines, breakfast, breakfast with the aunties, you know, what we're all getting up to. Who should we do? What's going on? This is even more interesting than I thought. So it's not like a sex tour, right? It's more like, like you said, I listen, I'm a big reality TV person. I watch you. So this is like the reality of like your world. Yeah. But we're still going to be shooting because that's what we need to do to make our money. We need to shoot our scenes. We just sell our content. So it gives people an idea of like what goes into it. And then it's like, well, how do you impress an auntie? Like, yeah, you know, you've got to be you. You've got to be tested. You've got to show up on time. You've got to have your hard drive. You've got to have this. You've got to have that because so many like we get so many messages a day. Hey, I want to be a porn star. What do I do? No, no. Yeah. But I mean, you cry. I mean, did you start like, did you ever set out to become a porn star? Did it just kind of like happen for you? Just it just kind of happened. So the same guy that introduced me to swinging, he was like, hey, have you ever done a video when I'm like a video? And I thought he meant at the time of commercial. Yeah. Because I used to do voiceovers and stuff. And I was like, I said, what kind of video? And he's like, oh, a 16. And I thought he was joking. Right. And he's like, no, he's like, I've got this really hot dude. I was like, wait, what? I'm like, who's who's the guy? And we said, we didn't have picture phones or anything else back then. And he was trying to describe this guy. And I was like, I was like, well, you know what? I'm hoping to like, you know, we can meet and talk and he was gorgeous. And I was like, yeah, why the hell not? I'm like, hi, nice to meet you. He was actually he was he was one of the doorman of my local nightclub. So I was like, wait, I recognize your face. And he's like, yeah. So it was a quite it was quite comical. And then he and I used to do lifestyle parties together because we hit it off that way. What were they called? What kind of parties? Lifestyle, like, so I'm like, yeah, we started we started doing parties together. Right. So it sounds like you got back into the world. I mean, I still I mean, I still talk to him. He literally texts me on Sunday, like Happy Easter for 20 years later. Wow. How did you meet the new guy that you're with now? On SDC, actually. Oh, really? I like SDC. They're my affiliate. They're the one people I give out to, like, I have a free trial. Three seven seven one two people could use or go to my description and click on it to get in there. So you met him on SDC. Yes. Right. So you know, he's like a lifestyle person and he's down with who you are. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, hey, because I put my thing on and it was like, he came up close by and we'd reached out to each other and I was like, yeah, would you like to do something like you want to grab a drink? We met up, you know, we were so for a while and we couldn't manage to meet up to begin with. And then I'd went away traveling and then he'd like randomly hit me up. He's like, hey, um, are you in the area or not in the area? And I was like, oh, no, like I'll be back in like a couple of weeks. And he's like, yeah, would you like to do something? I'm like, yeah. So we ended up, you know, I should cook some dinner. So we cooked dinner, spent the night. I was like, OK, and then it just kind of like from there. I know it just snowballed very, very quickly. It was like, oh, are everything aligned? And this is the next thing. And oh, like, OK, like this is. So it was more than just sex with him. Yeah. And I was like, wait, and you're cool with me being lifestyle. And this guy needs like, yeah, he's like an unpoly. And I'm like, OK, cool. And I was like, well, I'm always been E and M. I was like, but like, I never thought to date. You know, I don't class as decent if I have like regular play partners, I just regular play partners. I've never like attached a label to it. Yeah. And I was like, but I guess it technically is really, you know, like I have this longstanding, you know, whatever with these people. Right. So. And I was like, this kind of makes sense. And I was like, so we just have our regular life. And then we have our it's like, yeah. But did you eventually realize you were poly, too? Well, when it went, somebody had broken down to like, it's not that, like, literally it's not much different to what you're actually doing. And I was like, what would you mean? And they were like, right. So so and so like you. And I'm like, yeah, we go on like vacations together. We do this week. And they're like, yeah, that's a relationship. I was like, oh, I just never like attached a label to it. You know what? It's always just for us just so and so, you know, like. And I was like, OK. Right. Like you're having multiple relationships at the same time. Yes. So when I spoke to the guys that I classes like my boyfriends now and I'm like, hey, so and they're like, yeah, we're boyfriend girlfriend. I'm like, OK. That was really simple. Right. Like you continue doing what you're doing. We continue what we do. I'm like, yeah. And like we talk all the time, like. And your guy at home enjoys like is is it kind of like do whatever you want? Or does he get off on like you being with other guys? Does he have a little cock in him? And now I call it most scourled stag, you know, sometimes. No, so he he knows he doesn't even want to know. He's just like, look, I'm he's like, I'm well aware that, you know, you're out there doing whatever. He's like, and that's cool. He's like, I don't want to know. I don't want to hear it. I'm like, OK. Wow, that's interesting. And I'm like, but my boyfriend's doing is that we'll then have that conversation with your boyfriend. So I'm like, OK. Now, does your husband hook up with other people as well? Or is he just he does? Yeah. No. No. So actually, when I got here today, one of the girls, he sleeps regularly came up. She's like, I'm like, hi. And how do you wait? Are you the same like him or it's like, that's fine. But just don't tell me or do you like it? Or is it both like you both just have? Oh, no, I'm just I'm just I'm just like, look, you can tell me so I know in advance, yeah, that, you know, I don't hear about it from somewhere else. Or somebody goes, hey, I'm like, OK, I didn't know. I said, but I don't actually to know no, like I don't really care. I just like to know who ahead of time so that, you know, somebody doesn't drop it into one of our chat groups. And I'm like, wait, what? Yeah, exactly. Well, do you ever do girls together considering you like women too? Oh, yeah. No, we have. Yeah, we have. I say to him as long as I'm into her, like I'm not taking them on for the team. Do you have a type when it comes to guys, by the way? I do I have a type? Yeah, when it comes to guys. Oh, God, yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Like you need to be like six, six, six foot black and muscly and just fucking dreamy. That's your that's your type like a big dude, big black dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like my boyfriend is like when I first met him a couple of years ago, I kind of saw him in the event and I looked at this guy and I was like, I would have your babies and I don't even want babies. So I was like, who the fuck are you? Oh, my God. Somebody you look like you just I thought you look like you just have a fucking catalogue magazine type. I was like, hi. He's like, hello. Wait, is your husband black or is he white? No, he's black. Oh, he is too. OK. And so and so and so the and how long has you have you been dating your boyfriend for? Um, we didn't even we didn't even put a label on it until recently when I was like, hey, so. But he's like, well, we know you we do stuff with go places with it. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, so technically we are. I was like, yeah, but neither of us have ever put a label on it. We just when we saw each other, you know, regular face times, text messages, whatever. There was never a label attached. And I said, I was like, I've never attached. I'm not a labels person. Right. So I had never attached all these labels to things. And that's when I was like, oh, maybe I am. I just had never really, you know, knew it. Right. Put it or put it together. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Like it was never a thing. Right. Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale ups online in person and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your one dollar a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. So I was like, OK, I was like, so we're together together. So obviously we're here at splash. She's here as a single male. But he was like, yeah, he's like, so before the event doesn't officially kick off till tomorrow. So we were like early. Right. And he was like, no, we are spending the night together before it kicks off. I'm like, yes, we are. Right. And he does like, but this guy does like to see you with other guys, right? Like he does have that kick. Your boyfriend. So he's he's he's like, he's cool with it. He's not overly like, I mean, he's been to loads of they've been to loads of lifestyle events before. Yeah. He'll turn around and we'd be like, you know, Libby's Libby's in the middle of all the men. Right. It doesn't put him up and down. Like he's like, oh, it's Libby. And he's like, look for the largest group of men there. There's Libby. Oh my God. That's so funny. Even that last night. Yeah. So I flew in early to Atlanta and I stayed with a friend, like a male friend who I've had sex with previously, you know, but we are just friends. And my boyfriend texts me and he was like, hey, I'm just checking in on you. Just let me know that you're safe. You're good. I don't need to know who you're with or what you're doing. He's like, I just need to know that you're good. Right. And I was like, yeah, I was like, Dave, I'm cool. I was like, I'm actually sitting working right now. And I was like, that's all I need to know. He's like, I will see you tomorrow. I'm like, OK. Wow. And so when you let me ask you a little bit about filming, though, because you do a lot of porn yourself, right? It's not like you're just producing it. You take part in it. You know, do you enjoy being in front of the camera and all that stuff? Was that like natural for you? Yeah, I'm a total exhibitionist. Right. I've been in front of the camera since I was five. Right. Not too far, obviously. But right. So I have been in front of the camera for like, well, almost 40 years of my life, like 38 years of my life. Well, for me, it is completely normal. Right. And you look like if you're an exhibitionist, it is a little bit of a turn on too, right? Like, I mean, you're enjoying yourself. So when you're filming, it's a lot more technical. Right. It's like, OK, the lights here. Wait, OK, your arms in the way. All right. I need to move my hair out the way. Oh, yeah. OK, this person can't actually get an angle. So I mean, yes, there's it's not like, oh, my God, this is awful. But a lot of it, you're like, wait, can you see? OK, if I'm in doggy style, no way, I need to turn my hair. I need to move my head. OK, you need to be to see this. OK, my army to drop out the way. This guy needs to be here, especially for the new time filming with him, like, hey, move your arm. Right. Blocking the shot. Right. Open me up. Lift your leg. Like, you know, like, yeah. No, nobody wants to watch something you can't actually see. Right. So unfortunately, a lot of it's produced. Yeah, like a 25 minute video. There's probably maybe six or seven minutes of like, OK, this is this is cool. This is fun. Right. But the rest of it's like because you have a running clock in your head anyway. OK, we've done like I'll probably start to take three, four minutes. OK, we're going to have to move. OK, we've fucked in this position. OK, we're going to have to move. It's just like a running and it becomes a norm. You know, like, you know yourself if you if you're in a podcast, you'll have a you know, when you're looking at the clock, you'll have a rough. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just it's not conscious, then you just know it's there. Yeah, it's right, of course. It's it's and listen, this is what you've been doing for a long time. You do it at work. You're not just the person behind. Like you've been behind the camera. You're in front of the camera. I mean, you know all angles, right? Like, I mean, because you've been there. Yeah, you do it all really. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I joke when I meet people from the first time, I'm like, hey, nice to meet you. Please don't be offended when I'm literally inside you, vagina in five minutes with a camera. And then, oh, my God, what? We do. Do you enjoy shooting other people? Sometimes. Of the time I do, yeah, like unless the scenes fall in flat or you just see that they're really kind of struggling, right? Then it's like, but a lot of the times, especially if, you know, they come to an idea or a quirky storyline or something, I'm like, hell, yeah, I'm down to film. That was good. Right. Interesting. And what kind of people reach out to you? Like, do you get couples like interested in you, just like videotaping them? Or is it typically people that want to do content? It's usually in just three. Sometimes I get the odd couple that are like, hey, like I watch a porn. Like, would you film me and I'm like, I can do. But a lot of it's industry. A lot of it's like, hey, I've got this really dope scene. But like, I want the three films so I can't get, you know, the third person to film it. I'd use less the third person to film the family. Do I? I'm like, yeah, I got you. Right. That's fine. Yeah. Oh my God, you have so much to promote. Why don't you give out all your information? Like if you have a website where they could see your videos, how they could like, you know, be on top of like your Auntie May event and, you know, where it's taking place and how they could log on and live stream and all that kind of good stuff. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's Google. You can just put my name and just Livy Blaine. It pops up with my website, which is Livy Blaine.net. It brings a exact same name to make it really simple for people. And what is that? Do you? Livy Blaine? Just, just, just my name. I was like, you know what? It makes it so much easier because people have got stars and I'm like, no, mine's just my name. Yeah. And it's Livy. But L-I-V-I-E Blaine is B-L-A-I-N-N. Right. They need to know that. Yeah, I will put the name. Yeah, I'll put the name in the description so they can see it. So on your website is, is like links to everything I would assume, right? Is that where they could find ways to find all your stuff? Because you have so much going on. I do. I have that like so much going on. So on my website is mainly my photo sets from Waddling, my videos. I'm trying to update it. So I've got like a running blog to make it easier for people. Uh-huh. But I spend that much time on Twitter and Instagram doing the running blogs and then the telegram groups. And then I run other people's accounts as well. So I do their editing and they're uploading. Oh, my God. Crazy. But there's times, there's times I'm just like, I don't have enough hours in the goddamn day. I'm like, I don't know what day it is. Do you still have a side job or is this your full time now that you're doing? This is me full time. Yeah, this is me full time. Right. So now you just do this, right? Yes. I mean, I even started my own podcast before and then I was like, I can't keep up with it. I was like, there's just like, there's too many plates. I don't have enough arms to spin all these plates. Yeah, because everything tends like what people don't understand if they haven't built a platform on any in any place. Like each platform it takes tending to on a daily basis 24 seven. Right. So oh, God, you add something like a podcast or an Instagram or a Twitter, you know, it's like it's you tend to it constantly or it dies. And that's what I think a lot of people don't understand. Right. So yeah, you have so much going on. And then to put, you know, like I put 24 seven into just my podcast, right? So it's just like, if you don't have that time to do it, then maybe it's not going to be as successful as all your other things. And you're doing so many other things at the same time. I could see why you're like, I don't know. Yeah. It's like, if you try and edit and you, you know, you're trying to maybe seven hours a day of editing, you're going to school and trying to do a live stream. Right. And then you're on cam. And then you've got TikTok and then you go there. And it's just like, there's only 24 hours in the day and I have to eat and sleep in some of them. Yeah. Yeah. And you're, because it's not a typical nine to five job. I mean, you're probably just tending to all your stuff constantly. So to put it another thing would be a major. I mean, you're doing so much now. I love that you have this new tour. I think it's a super interesting idea that you thought of. The first one hasn't run yet. Is that's what you said, right? It's going to kick off in Miami. Yeah. Yeah. It picks up in Miami next month. So okay. Next. I'm kind of super dope. I'm like, you know, the ninth of May, we've got that. We've got the Cuck experiences, the Cuck hours. So we're calling it Cucktail Hour. Oh, I love that. Cucktail Hour. And that's the part of the, the anti-May event that you're hosting, right? The live. Yes. We'll do it live. So some of the Cucks have said, Hey, I don't want to be filmed or I want to be, you know, face blurred or whatever. And I'm like, that's totally cool. Like I can blur your face or whatever. Right. Or we can have a separate room for like, you know, the Cucks are going in here, guys, so that you don't get to see this. But like, you know, I'm not one of the family and these can sit and talk to me like, Hey, this is going on just now. And, you know, Oh my God. And is it a whole weekend event? That how long it take? Is that how long it runs? It's like five days. Oh, five days. I'm going to be exhausted by the end of the day. Oh my God. You're a workhorse. You, you set your side high five day of that. I mean, that's major in so many different cities. Well, yeah, because I'm like, by the time you check in and everything, and obviously the last day that you're there, you're checking out. So you can't even count the first day and the last day. But they're not even real days. Right. Right. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's a non-starter. Like nobody's going to want to fly in or drive or whatever and get there at like six, seven PM and start filming. They want to have something to eat. They want to grab a shower. They want to chill. But because it's a live stream, because it's like reality to me and you're getting the bat, are you or does that start with? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like do they get to see that? Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, yeah, that's interesting. From day one rather than it be like the next day and you know, Jews that you've wasted a day financially. It's like, well, no, actually, we can still make some cutting because you're going to get to see this is day one. You know, we're all tired. We've driven flown whatever. But they're going to see that. Yeah, they're going to see that. So they don't want to live that this is not just glamorous. You know, we don't wake up with a face full of makeup and some lingerie on looking like, you know, like, boom, let's go. Yeah, yeah. I wake up with my do rag on looking like, I don't know. So you're like peeling back the curtain. I love that. I love reality TV. I like real shit, you know what I mean? And I think and listen, I have a podcast where I host a lot of people and they come on and tell their stories. And a lot of times when it's people that do have big platforms, their audience is so thankful to finally hear like something more personal from them, right? Because they see them, maybe like in all these sexual ways, but like to really find out more about them and hear their back stories and hear their everyday life is always super interesting to them because they feel like they know you already. So they to know more is only so beneficial. Because years ago, people used to say, hey, like I follow you and I'm so glad I got to meet you. And I'm like, well, and they're like, well, you know, you go online, you see your pictures, you see your videos. And yeah, and it's like, they're like, you have quite a harsh look at times. And I'm like, no, I can see that. So a lot of people used to like call me like an ice queen. Oh, really? Oh, I do smile. I do smile. But like my mom used to call me an ice queen. So I'm like, that's actually quite hilarious. So and then when people meet, so they have this like preconceived notion in their head and then they meet me and they're like, oh, you you are not what I thought. Right. And I'm like, and I'm like, what did you think? And they're like, like, you look like a bitch. I'm like, oh, thanks. I'm like, OK. And then I actually you're really dope when I'm like, thanks. I try. And so now at this event, they're going to be seeing all this stuff with all the people that are a part of this event, these 10 other aunties. When I do. Yeah. When I did two months in Jamaica, I was doing TikTok lives every day. And it was just a way to touch base for people. I know because people were like, where are you? And what are you doing? So I did my whole travel across Jamaica. And then when I came back to America, I went to Splash, Houston. I'm sitting in the lobby and the guys were like, oh, my God, is the girl from Jamaica? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Jamaica. Well, we know that. But like we were all sitting watching you working stuff and I'm like, oh, my God. Well, listen, I find that like, you know, people that are online and so the people that are really putting themselves out the most and really showing the most about themselves are the ones who rise to the top. So the fact that you're open like that, you know, and to show them everything about your life only helps you considering you are a content creator. Like I was saying to people, I'm like, listen, like I don't know why you put people on a pedestal. They still have to eat, shower, shit. Right. Everything else the same as you do. Yeah. Like they are no different. They have a different career. Yeah. But you know, just because somebody kicks a ball or somebody, you know, is on an advert or somebody that reads a weather. Like they are still a human being at the end of the day. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But that's what people want to know about that side too. And that's why it's so smart that you're putting together this that people are going to that, you know, and it's not just for you. It's all the other people that they're going to be seeing as well in this. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. A lot of people, they're, they're time as well, you know. Yeah. It's such a smart idea. Do you came up with this? I came up with it only because the guys used to call me auntie and I was like, you know what? Let's do this. Like, there's lots of women that are aunties. Let's go. Yeah. Let's get more aunties and show the auntie life. I love it. I'm going to put the links in the description to your website. Send me some pics if you can for my Patreon. I always say for Patreon, like, I mean, I could probably get to picks two of you on all your social media stuff. But like, if you have any picks you want to send my Patreon, I always say kind of X rated, not R rate, not, I mean, not X rated R rated for my Patreon. My discord is like, you'll get a free access to there. If you want to go in there and promote anything you want, especially when your lives come up and your events come up, you could totally go in there. There's a content creator channel in there. I have like 6,000 people in my discord. You could promote anything you want over there. You could, if you send me any X rated picks, I could post those over there. You could also put teaser clips, whatever you want. Um, I will put, like I said, I'll put your name in the description. So people will know how to find you on any of your socials, right? It's Livy Blaine, how it's spelled, right? At all of your socials. Yeah. Yeah. And then people, yeah. And then people have to go in and, and log into your first live event. It's May 9th, right? Yep. May 9th. Real, yeah, I love it. What a great idea. Thank you so much for calling in. This was like super interesting. I didn't understand or realize how big you were and how this was like your whole thing. I thought you were just a part of the event. I didn't know you were like the end all be all in that you've been so involved in the lifestyle and everything. So it was like super interesting to me to find out all this information from you. So I will email you when your episode goes up, but send me your links in your pick sooner than later. Okay. So I have them. Okay. Yeah, I will do. I will go inside and get checked in so I can put my stuff in the room. Yeah. Yeah. Get it sent over to you. Yeah. You're at the best. Thank you so much for calling in. This was super interesting. I love your whole life story. Thank you so much. I'd love to talk to you. Thanks, Livy. Thank you. Bye. Thanks. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories and they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters. Easy read. 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