Best of March Madness Part 1: UCLA CROWNED CHAMPIONS, Dawn Staley and Geno Auriemma GET HEATED
44 min
•Apr 8, 202610 days agoSummary
The Nightcap hosts discuss the NCAA women's basketball championship games, focusing on Geno Auriemma's unsportsmanlike conduct toward Dawn Staley after UConn's loss to South Carolina, his subsequent apology, and UCLA's dominant 28-point victory over South Carolina in the final. The episode analyzes coaching professionalism, sportsmanship, and the quality of women's college basketball.
Insights
- Winning coaches must demonstrate equal grace in defeat as in victory; emotional outbursts undermine institutional credibility and overshadow opponent achievements
- Apologies lacking personal accountability to the directly affected party are perceived as insincere and damage professional relationships more than the original offense
- Defensive intensity and size advantages are decisive factors in women's college basketball championship performance, often more impactful than offensive firepower
- Coaching longevity and program-building require sustained commitment (35-40+ years) and player development philosophy that balances discipline with relatability
- Media narratives around coaching conduct can overshadow athletic performance; professionalism protects both individual reputation and team legacy
Trends
Women's college basketball gaining mainstream sports media attention and critical analysis comparable to men's programsCoaching accountability standards increasing; public apologies and conduct reviews becoming expected responses to sideline misconductDefensive-oriented teams outperforming offensive-heavy rosters in championship games; defensive strategy as competitive differentiatorPlayer recruitment and retention tied to coach relatability and social media engagement (TikTok, Instagram) alongside athletic developmentProgram sustainability through multi-year championship runs requires senior leadership retention and strategic recruiting of complementary talentSize and physicality in women's basketball centers becoming more valued; height advantage (6'7") creating matchup problems for opponentsCoaching tenure and institutional stability correlating with championship success; long-term coaching relationships building program culture
Topics
NCAA Women's Basketball Championship 2024Coaching Professionalism and SportsmanshipGeno Auriemma UConn HuskiesDawn Staley South Carolina GamecocksUCLA Lady Bruins Championship VictoryPost-Game Conduct and ApologiesWomen's College Basketball Defense StrategyPlayer Recruitment and DevelopmentProgram Building and Coaching LongevityOfficiating and Referee Bias AllegationsChampionship Game Analysis and Performance MetricsCoaching Relatability and Social Media EngagementAthletic Scholarships and Player CompensationWomen's Basketball Media CoverageCompetitive Balance in NCAA Women's Basketball
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People
Geno Auriemma
UConn coach involved in post-game altercation with South Carolina coach; issued public apology for unsportsmanlike co...
Dawn Staley
South Carolina coach whose team defeated UConn in championship game; subject of Auriemma's post-game confrontation an...
Lauren Betts
UCLA center named Most Outstanding Player in championship game; 6'7" player who dominated South Carolina defensively ...
Gabrielle Hawkeyes
UCLA guard who scored 10 points including crucial free throws in championship victory; sister of Miami Heat player Ja...
Corey Close
UCLA coach in 15th season who led Lady Bruins to first NCAA championship with 37-1 record and 28-point victory margin
Pat Summitt
Referenced as legendary coach with contentious relationship history; mentioned in context of coaching longevity and p...
Sarah Strong
UConn All-American player mentioned as potential player of the year; limited offensive performance in championship loss
Raven Johnson
South Carolina senior player who underperformed in championship game loss to UCLA
Cheryl Reeves
Mentioned as USA women's basketball coach; discussed in context of Olympic coaching and team performance
Carol Lawson
Duke coach selected as USA women's basketball coach for 2028 Olympics; praised by hosts for coaching quality
Lisa Leslie
Referenced as head coach in Big Three league; mentioned as example of tall athlete married to tall spouse
Bill Belichick
Referenced as example of winning coach who displays poor sportsmanship in defeat; comparison to Auriemma's behavior
Quotes
"There are no excuses for how I handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina."
Geno Auriemma•Early in episode
"You have to be able to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace. When you beat Miss Staley last time, you was all smiles, happy hugs. South Carolina, they didn't just beat y'all. They dominated in every aspect of the game. That was getting your ass whipped."
Host•Mid-episode analysis
"If you're going to apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with. That apology has been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else."
Host•Apology critique segment
"The better team won. UCLA is a much, much better team all the way around. The physicality, them big girls at UCLA, obviously Betts. The defense was so suffocating."
Host•Championship game analysis
"You got to be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Gino's been coaching 40 years, 25 final fours, 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and one in national championship games."
Host•Coaching legacy discussion
Full Transcript
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Geno walked off to the tunnel alone. In his post game news conference, Geno said he was frustrated because he waited three minutes for a pre-game handshake with Don. He also said he did not regret the comments he made to Holly Roe during the broadcast about the lack of files against South Carolina. It said Don ran some raves at the officials and called referees some names you don't want to hear. Clearly someone got through to Geno because this morning he issued a statement saying, there are no excuses for how handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for how I reacted. The story should have been how well South Carolina played and I don't want my actions to distract from that. I have a great relationship with their staff and I sincerely want to apologize to them, Geno Oriama. I'm glad you apologized because we about to take your ass up, Geno. But anyway, oh, Joe, Joe, we're still gonna take his ass up. Oh yeah, absolutely. And he was dead wrong. Yeah, dead wrong. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen, as a coach, especially a winning coach like Geno, you have to be able, you should understand and you know how to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace. When you beat Miss Staley last time, you was all smiles, happy hugs, ready to, you know, whatever it may be in the fact that you say some things to Holly roll and saying that in the game, that Don Staley probably influenced the rest because you, y'all guys didn't get the calls necessary. Listen, South Carolina, they didn't just beat y'all. They dominated in every aspect of the game. They played great defense. It just did. That wasn't getting beat. That was getting your ass whipped. That's all it was. I mean, listen, your team got embarrassed. You got to be able to lose with grace as well. Okay, you didn't get the three minute handshake. You waited three minutes before, you know, pre-game and you didn't, what is that? That had to be still. She didn't shake her hand. Yeah. She shook her hand. In pre-game? Well, why do you say that? Yeah, in pre-game, before the game, she shook his hand, man. Oh, so he's upset and he had to wait three minutes? Is that why he didn't bring that up? He's upset. He was the favorite. They blew South Carolina out last year. They were favorite. They got two All-American, first team All-Americans. Yeah. They might have the player of the year in Sarah Strong. Sarah, ain't she nice? But, but South Carolina beat him. Yeah. And so this is, I thought I was gonna win. I was supposed to win and I got beat. Yeah. That's what this was about. Yeah. This was a sore loser. Yeah. Maybe I'm gonna damn handshake. Yeah. Undefeated season. You know, he was something. Yeah. He was something. How about not just apologizing to the coaching staff, you know, give a personal apology to Don Staley. You know what I mean? Like bro, for you to get in her face like that and talk stuff out after the game, man, just congratulate and move on. I understand, you know, in the heat of the battle, you know, we get a little pissed off. You know, like I said, he was on the brink of having an undefeated season, Anka and Ocho. Yeah. And like Anka said, he was a heavy favorite, but man, them girls from South Carolina came to play. They just outplayed them. They rolled to the occasion. They outplayed them. That's it. They rolled them. They dogged them. And he couldn't take it. He couldn't take it. Now, don't say South Carolina. You didn't do this to South Carolina. You and then Don Staley's. That's what I'm telling you. Apologize to, you know what? I want to apologize to the staff and I want to personally apologize to Don Staley. Now you're told a lie because you said you had a great relationship with the staff. You don't. You said before they asked you after the game, do you have a relationship? You said no. Right. So were you lying then or you lying now? Right, right. Hey. Maybe you know who ever wrote that apology to Anka and Joe for him. Yeah, GPT. Allegedly. That too. And he'd know if you're going to apologize to someone. Allegedly. Yeah. If you're going to apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with. That's what I'm saying. You didn't have altercation with the staff. That's what I'm saying. You didn't have altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina. That apology has been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else. Yeah. And the fact that he was dead wrong, talking about, oh, my player got a ripped jersey. Hell, she ripped her own damn jersey. She ripped her own jersey. Yeah, she ripped her own jersey. I've been coaching 40 years and I've never had a player ripped jersey. Well, I guess you never had a player get that upset me because she ripped that on her own damn jersey. Like just dead wrong. You know, you dead wrong like that, bro. Just apologize, make a personal apology to Don. That's what I felt like it should have been. But I just felt like he was dead wrong, bro. Dead wrong. Don said I'll beat Gino ass. I will beat Gino ass. Oh, you ready to lift? You ready to lift, too? No, he's not ready to lift. You're going to hit the audience. That's what she's saying. Hey, Don, fulfilling. Okay, she ain't playing. No, she's feeling it. Yeah, she's about to get to it. Yeah. And that's at any time you have to, it has to have, it has to be personal. Yes. Because what you did was personal. Yeah. Okay, you want to apologize to your institution because the way you behave and put them in a negative light, you can say that. I want to apologize to my university also. But you did this to Don. You didn't do this to your entire staff. You did this to one individual. Now whatever the case may be, I don't know where it goes back from, but he had a very contentious relationship with Pat Summit, the University of Tennessee. Yeah. It was very contentious. I know had had a lovely opportunity to meet Pat in New York at the Sky Club at LaGuardia. Had a great time. I said, Miss Summit, how you do you say, call me Pat? You know, so forth and so on. But Gino, you was wrong. Dead wrong. Apology, I appreciate it, but it needs to have a personal touch to it. It needs to say, I apologize to the person that I spoke out of turn to that I approached, that I probably said something that I should have said. I don't know what he said. But the way you behave is that you took a lot of the steam out of the sand of South Carolina because what we should be talking about that South Carolina did what many didn't think they could do. Beat an undefeated team, a reigning champion, with two All-Americans and they did it on the defensive end. Yeah. Yeah, there were some ladies that rose to the occasion offensively, but this was a defense. You look at what Sarah Strong shot. You look at what A.Z. Fudge shot and that'll tell you everything that you need to know. For you to not have a personal touch and say that I like to apologize first and foremost to Don Staley. She's a hell of a coach. She's rebottin'. End up looking here. The Gamecocks, well you think about the Gamecocks, you think about their women's basketball team. You don't think about the football team. And they had a baseball team, had good baseball team, good track program with Sarge Fry. But when you think of South Carolina, Gamecocks, you think of Don Staley and the Lady Gamecocks. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so for you not to talk about the staff, you said you do not have a personal relationship with Don Staley and I'm not saying that you have to. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. But your behavior would suggest that you need to have personally apologized to her. I appreciate you apologizing to the University of South Carolina and their staff. But they gotta be a little more personal touch to it. That's what I apologize. I apologize in order for you to, for you an individual, because what you did was to an individual. You need to personally apologize to said individual. Absolutely. Go ahead Don't you, what you wanna say? Yeah, honestly. And you know, excuse my language, I have fucked that apology. So most of the time it takes for somebody to get angry for them to show their true colors and how they really feel. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean that's all it is. Yeah. And then on top of that, the fact that he didn't apologize directly to her, it lets you know how he really feel. Right, right. When you win it, when you win it all is good. You know what I'm saying, don't you? When you win it, you see? You watch Game last year, we was on the sideline, the clock's running down, he got his hands all up there. Hey, smiling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New kind of back where we supposed to be. Yeah, yeah. Hey, that fake ass apology, man, that ain't no one know apology, man. He didn't even write it, but check this out. Can y'all imagine what Don Staley was like in the locker room after the game? Like, wait a kick that mother. You know what I mean? Of course. You know she was going off like that. Wait a minute. Hey, that's what I would have been like. I was like, man. Wait, wait a minute, Joe. And hold on, you think it's bad because Gino did this? Imagine if the motherfucking rolls was flipped. Boy, man, it would have been World War three. Yeah, they'd have been talking big stuff about Don. Man, listen. You gotta be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Now think about it. Think about Gino. Gino's been coaching 20, 40 years. He's been the 25 final fours. He's won 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and one in final, in national championship games. Dang it. South Carolina beat him a couple of years ago. He's 12 and one. So 12 times somebody had to walk across the floor, across the court aisle and shake his hand after getting their ass tore up. Yeah. You look at the women that he's coached from Terasi and Lobo and Maya Moore and Charles and Breonna Stewart and the list goes on and on. He's winning three out of four. Breonna Stewart didn't lose a national championship game. So for four straight years, this man he up the cheeky key key in people's face. Yeah. Now the one time you're supposed to win and you didn't, you behave like this. Remember, you're as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Nobody likes to lose. Everybody talk about, man, I'm a sore. I hate when people say, well, I hate to lose. If you at that, once you get to a certain level, everybody hates to lose. Yes, sir. You put all that damn time in all these girls and put all this time in and been away from their families and doing all this stuff. Nobody wants to lose. But it's a part of it. But when they lose, they don't act like a jackass. Man, that kills me. I hate what got, oh, I'm a sore. Yeah. It bothers me, anybody. Cause I know there are some guys that, hey, when they winning, they running around and act like they on the damn hoverboard. But when they lose, oh, Joe, they can't be found. Well, you know, I didn't want, no, no, no, no. But they couldn't get you to shut up. Yeah. No, don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, I just didn't expect that from Gino, bro. I just felt like he was a classy individual and I thought that, you know, he would be much better than that, like blaming Don on how she talked to the ref. Man, come on, man. We in between the lines. Like he ain't never saying something out of line to the ref. Come on, man. But that ain't your job. That's the ref. You ain't no ref. You're a cult. It's not dry snitching. And the way he said it, the way he explained it is as if Don screaming or saying whatever she's saying to the referees is influencing the ref's call in the game. Right. Then he follows it up with the files. Yeah. Are we talking, what are we talking about, baby? You got whoop, you lost. Yes. You don't lose often, but tonight you lost. Yeah. What about that, oh, Joe, the man that won, he won like 112 something games. He won like three straight years and never lost a game. Man. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody did what he did to him what Don Stanley did to Don. They didn't do that to him. No. Don took that ass with it. I think they beat Carolina last year. They beat him, I think they beat him in South Carolina, beat him about 30 or 40, and they beat him by another 20, 30 last year at the championship game. Yeah. Don got some dogs over there on that old Joe. Oh yeah. Oh, she got some dogs. And Chloe Kiff, one of their best rebounding girls, she hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And McCare and Lassen, those, and Raven Johnson, all those, hey, them girls came to play. Yeah. They came to play. They knew what was going to stay. They came to play last night, and I just hope they can, I hope they can finish it off. Yeah. It's going to be anaclimactic if they take down Goliath and they, they, they don't take care of UCLA. UCLA, they, hey, they got, they got, they got a big girl down there who ain't playing. Laura Betts. Yeah. She nice. Hey. But Carolina going to play some defense now. They don't do nothing else. They going to play defense. They going to hang to have some defense. Cause that's what Don was. Don was a, yeah, she was, hey, she could, hey, she could put the ball in the basket, but Don was a hound. Yeah. And she got some girls who can go off the bounce though, who come to talk about, get to that chicken, uncle Ocho. Yeah. Like, you know, you, it's, it's different when you got girls who out there moving like dudes. You see what I'm saying? Who handling that rock like a dude. Like that's when you like, hold on, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah. For real. That's why I be looking up and I'm like, hold on, that girl got that thing on the string though. Hmm. But Carolina did it. Game, the lady game cox has an opportunity to win their third national championship in four years. What, for what she's done to that program. Wow. Man. Basically that's what you got. That's what you got to do. Cause for the most part these, when you get a program, you build it up. Look at Gino. Gino was there for 40 plus. It's been at UCAR for 40 years. Pat was there for 35, 40 years. Tarvandivir at Stanford, 35, 40 years. You look at these ladies and Kim Monkey, when she was at Baylor, she built that program up. Yeah. So basically you got to build a program. You just got to, you just got to build it. You got to be a great players coach to where these kids that's coming to your school, they got to really, truly believe that you got they back. And I feel like with Don, you know, she in TikTok. She in Instagram of reals. You know what I mean? That's relatable to these kids. Cause that's all they want to do. You know what I mean? They want to have fun, do stuff like that at the same time. If you giving me everything that I'm asking for on the court, a hundred percent on office and defense. Man, I do all the TikToks I want to do. Then she, what did she do? She let her team pick out a bag, a Louis Vuitton bag. I think she let Jackson state and them get sneakers. Yeah. I think she, I mean, she's just the all, I look, I've never met Don, but she just strikes me as an all around good player. A good person. Yeah. She wants to, hey, look, she a hard worker. You can tell she a hard worker. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, and she, and she demands, she, she, she can't, the way she, she demands a certain level of respect. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and, and the women, and the women gravitate towards that. They know a, once a, once a coach establish what he expects or she expects and they don't waver. There you go. Yeah. She a, shout out to Don, man. She came and hollered at us when I was playing in a big three. This one I was playing with the triplets and Lisa Leslie was our head coach. You know, her, her, Lisa Leslie played together, USA, you know, they, they dolls. Yeah. You know what I mean? So she came in there and talked to us, bro. Like, you know, just gave us a little pep talk before the game. And I thought that was cool. So I got much love and respect for, I like how she handled herself, you know, after they gained nothing. Cause I'm going to tell you, I would have been the same way. Yeah. I wouldn't have been surprised. She jumped on Gino as I was like, I can't, I can't whip it. I can't whip it in front of all these folks. But hold on. What don't under Gino at the US team? Yeah. Coach in the Olympics in 20. She played for him too. She played for a man coach with him. He was a coach. Cause I know, uh, uh, uh, uh, I think a pack coach for a number of years. But if I'm not, she might be, she, she, is she still the, uh, uh, the, uh, USA basketball, US women's basketball coach? Hey, coach. In 21. I mean, I, I mean, our women had lost the gold medal since I think what 92, 96. Hmm. That's your period. 2004, eight, 12, 16, 21, 24. So we don't want seven straight time. They don't even have no competition though. No. No, they too good. Cause we go, I mean, we bring, we bring, I mean, we got stew, our big is stew in Asia. And then we got guards out the yin and yang. Yeah. We got Caitlin Clark. We got a net school. We got a, a, a, a, a Chelsea. We got Jackie young. Yeah. They can't, they can't help with us. I'm grunting. Too many. Them girls. We got feet. Yeah. They can't, they can't fool with us. Mm-mm. Them girls in gold, boy. They got a six-foot, six-foot ball, the six-foot team, the dollars, the first five, five, five, five, one year. Okay. And then Cheryl Reeves, the first five, five, five, five, four. Okay. Cheryl Reeves, okay. So who's the coach, who's gonna be the coach in 28? Reeves again? Okay. But, you know, you better than that, you know. All the, I mean, it's, uh-huh. Carol Lawson, okay, Duke, okay. Oh yeah. She coaching? The USA thing? Yeah, she gonna be the coach in 28. I like Carol Lawson. She good. I like Carol Lawson too. Yeah. Uh-huh. But you know, it's always, it's mainly the coaches that win a lot. And then when they lose, show date. Because you know who else was like that? Ooh. You know you play for them, Mocho. Ooh. Bill Belichick. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wanna run off the field and don't go to shit dance. Get short with the answers. It's always the people that win. You bro, you don't win and coaches have to answer the question and talk about how great that play call was and how you went forward and all the business. They gotta just allure you with a praise and adulation. Yeah. Now you lose again. EG, you won. Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh yeah, big time. Gotta play better. Coach better. That's it. Ah. Bill Belichick said, damn, all that. Hey. Basically that's exactly what he said. UCLA beat Texas 51-44. Four UCLA starters scored in double figures. Led by senior Lauren Betz, who is 60. Get the Google Pixel 10 Pro XL on the UK's best network. Press to talk out live with Gemini, your AI assistant from Google, and find out how to revive that plant. Yep, we've all been there. Plus, you'll stay connected even when you run out of data. Get yours on EE Today. Results for illustrative purposes and may vary. Check responses for accuracy, eligibility, credit check, and terms of apply. Credit by EE Limited. Verify best network at EE.caddy.k slash claims. 1.11 rebounds, three blocks, but a crucial one late in the ball game. Kiki writes. We've had Kiki on 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win. And fellow guards, Gabrielle Hawkeyes, whose brother, Jamie, plays at the Miami Heat. And Gianna Nipikens each had 10. I thought Texas, because Texas got a girl, I think it's Booker. I think Booker. She wears KD number 35. You see what she shot from the field? Boy, they did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots, Joe and Ocho. Before she hit that last one late, I think she put them within four or three. But she was, oh, she was bad. She got plenty of game, Ocho. I done seen her play a few times this year, but she won three or 23 for six points, bro. Yeah. Ain't nothing. Look, they ain't even lose by that many. I thought, you know, if she could have just played decent. Oh, they beat them. If she played, if she played, and here's another thing. They shot five free throws, Joe. So that tells me they're not aggressive. That tells me they're settling for jumpers. Yeah. Yeah. She's all four from the three point line, and then she didn't shoot a free throw. Their starter, only one starter shot a free throw. Let that sink in. Only one starter from the University of Texas shot a free throw. And yeah. They best did a number on them, though. 11 boys, 16.7 for 10. She can play. I like her game. Oh, she, she tall. She's 6'4". I think she's like 12. This is gonna be a game. It's gonna be a game tomorrow. It's gonna be Ken Ken Ken. How does UCLA handle the pressure of the Lady Gamecocks? Yeah. Yeah. When they, when they play, huh? Jamarra, like 2 30 or something. 2 30. Well, I'm glad, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm glad they are, they moved it in front of the men. Because before Joe and Ocho, you know, they were, I think they were playing, wasn't they playing after the men? At one point in time, they were playing like on a Tuesday. Or have they always played on a Sunday? I think they always play a day before the men. Joe, do you remember, do you remember Joe, Ocho? And the men's final four, they used to play a consolation game. The two teams that lost, so like, Arizona. And Illinois would play. Oh, no, I ain't never, I ain't known that. Yeah, they used to do that, Joe. I'd be pissed off. I wouldn't even want to. I mean. Oh, they say Ben 6'7". Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She 6'7". She down there handling business too, why? She 6' what? 6'7". 6'7". Woo. Hey, hey, the thing is, hey, she can't, hey, she better, she better find her a Cooper flag, because she can't wear nothing but flip flops with a guy. Ain't no way she can put on new, she put on four and she a Joe, she damn damn damn simple. No. Hey, good job, David, girl, Tommy, y'all. Yeah, yeah, I done been there, I done been there before, though. I thought so. You dated a girl, Tommy. Hey, Joe, in 2017, they moved it from Tuesday to Sunday. I knew they used to come on, I was like, bro, y'all anti-climatic. You got guys hitting buzzer beaters, Carolina hitting the, uh, uh, uh, Villanova hitting the buzzer beater. How you top that? Yeah. Go before the man. Damn. Hey, Joe, what you ask me, Joe? I say, have y'all, have y'all dated a girl tall in y'all? I have not. Oh, what you say, yeah. Yeah, you know, Joy had one by six, five. Had one six. Really? Yeah, six, six, yeah. But you from the south and from the country, you know you climb a tree. Yeah, I would. I would just get ready to say that, Joe, you ain't never climb, you ain't never climb no tree, nobody taller than you. Bad Joe fried somebody. She gonna be self-foot tall. Hey, hey, hey, oh, Joe, you say that. Hell, you went to the Amazon? Right. Oh, Joe, you say y'all the same size when you lay down, huh? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, hey, boy. Let's see. Joe got one of them on suit and knees, one from the car. Well, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, what's the guy, Luau Ding? Those are the tallest women on average. Is he suiting these? I think he's suiting these. They have the tallest women on average, Joe. Yeah, I ain't never dating no girl taller than me. I'm 6' 7", 6' 8". I mean, damn, you on dating somebody 6' 9"? Hold on, but hey, Joe, hold on. Most of the time, Joe, when you was playing ball, like in high school and college, you dated other Hoopers, right? No? Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah. You dated Hoopers, Joe? Yeah, the girl I dated when I was in high school and college, she played ball. How tall she was? She was about 5' 6". Yeah, I see. I'm talking about somebody like 6' 8", Joe. No, man, no, no, no. You know, you don't never, you don't really, you, that's rare. You don't never really see two tall people together. Bam, bam in Asia. I said it's rare, oh, Joe. Oh, my bad. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Lisa Leslie and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're my people. Yeah, yeah. Oh, buddy, buddy, buddy. Lisa like 6' 4", 6' 5", and I think he like 6' 6", 6' 7". Yeah, yeah. OK, yeah. Merton Hanks and his wife. You remember Merton Hanks, oh, Joe? Yeah. Yeah, his wife, his wife, hell, his wife might be taller than him. Yeah, Merton, yeah, Merton 1', 2'. Merton like 6' 3", she got him, I think she about 6' 4". Hey, I tell you what, I've never dated a woman. But Miss Bets, unless she get, unless she get Nicola Yolkich or the dude from Florida that's 7' 9", she can't wear no heels. Right. Hey, but that's how you get your muscle, though, boy. You get your, if the woman tall, the child probably pretty much going to be tall. It has a lot to do with the woman. Yeah, I tried, I tried, Joe. I tried, boy. You tried? You ain't got no tall kids, oh, Joe? I mean, yeah, they all tall. They all tall. But I'm just saying at that time, during that time, I was like, hey, listen. And they were like, nah, it ain't the right time. I catch you later on in life. I'm like, listen, I ain't got time to waste. Yeah. I mean, I dated a woman my height, 6' 4". I mean, my height. Yeah. But not somebody like 6' 3", 6' 4", 6' 5". Yeah, that's an age. If she put on heels, if she put on heels, then she taller than you. Well. Hey, she got to wear, she got to wear clogs or sandals. But the thing is, you know, my grandma and grandfather used to say, boy, if your date a woman taller than you, the first thing she get mad is you're going to hit you in your head. So I always thought like, you know what? Nah, let me keep somebody a little, keep me a little five, a little five, eight, five, five. Damn. I say, no, I dated a woman my height. Oh, OK, my bad. I've dated a woman my height. OK, OK, OK. I mean, taller than me, my height, 6' 2". I dated one 6' 2". I've never dated one 6' 3", 6' 4", 6' 5". Yeah, right. Man, 6' 5"? Yeah, 6' 2". Don't be scared, huh? Don't be scared. Hey, I like for them to get on their tiptoes to kiss me. What do I look like on my tiptoes kissing a woman? Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh? Man, you're out your damn mind. Ain't nothing wrong with that. 6' 2". Tall, though, huh? Yeah, I know. Joe, what you think about, I'm on my tiptoes kissing her. Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh? Now, you know, Joe, most of the time women have been on their tiptoes kissing you. Yeah. You ain't been on your tiptoes kissing no damn woman. Yeah. Hey. Hey. Hey, you never know. You never know till you try it. I'm good. I'm good. I done got old nine. I'm shrinking. So. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I'm shrinking. The fine girls, they tall, they far few in between, boy. Hey, you got to be in the right place. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about that's tall and proportion right. I'm talking about. Yeah, I know what I'm talking about. I got kids, I mean. I know what you're talking about, Joe. I'm with you. I'm picking up what you're putting down, baby. What you say, Joe? I said, you know, it's hard to find a girl that's tall and she proportion right. Yeah. They're right. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Blah-dah. Yeah. You got to get a volleyball player there. You're right. You're right. Whooo. The volleyball girls, they're playing they up. Are they? Hey. You know who? You know, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, Shay. Hey. You got the legs on them. She by five. She by five eight. Yeah. I'm talking about good 155. Oh. You used to go to the games, huh? Nah, hell nah. When you was in college, you didn't go to the volleyball game. I'm trying to fake that we have a volleyball team when I was in college. I was in the league. She had, she had a, I think I was like 25. She was 20. No, I was 26. She was 22. Because she had just got out of school. Right. That boy having tons of fun. Boy, it's something. Hey, on average. Yes, sir. I don't know if I've ever seen one that wasn't fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if we'd have a track, now a track, women go to disc in the shot. Who? Love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember them days, honking them days over and that over. Yeah, you go. Yeah. Hey, you're, we're everybody know what you like. You have a 12, but she ain't gonna be with five, five. No, no, no, no. You know, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm had, you know, all different heights and sizes and, you know, weights and ethnicities and I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything in eight. Hey, you gonna taste the rainbow. You ever said, Joe? Hey, everything getting eight. Yeah. Hey, you gotta taste the rainbow. He gonna taste the rainbow for sure. I mean, you got to, you know, you got to. Oh, fella. He just, he just working on, he just, he don't, he a eighth degree, ninth degree, tongue full master. He just keep getting different belts. Hey man, it's only one way to get that black belt. Sometimes, hey, listen, sometimes you got to set the standard, man. You know, I couldn't imagine that, Joe. Honestly, I could, I mean, I wouldn't feel like a man. I mean, if you're a guy and you on your tiptoes to kiss the woman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Joe. You six seven, six, eight. You on your tiptoes. No. Because that means she, that means she six nine. I just came in to see it. I can't see it. I'm sorry. You go, hey, you go out, you got, she got her heels. You out, you black tie, you got a tux on. She got her heels. I got these hard bottoms on. And they snap a picture. You on your tiptoes. Hey, ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man. You know, for a change. Let's stop it, Joe. Hey, you and your soft air, man. Ain't nothing wrong with that. No. No, man. Come on, Joe. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you need, don't knock it till you try it. I'm just, look, I mean, look, if you, if you a short guy, probably you five, two, five, there's a great chance if you five, five, five or under as a guy, you probably going to end up marrying somebody taller than you. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Because most of the time, you know, unless, unless you like, you know, you date a little person, a little person. But I mean, sometimes they get, as a matter of fact, Brad Williams, you know, he married, he married, a, a, a, a, not a little person. She taller than he is. But for the most part, if you a small guy, you're going to probably end up with a. Yeah. And I think, I think, I think smaller dudes, they, they, they kind of like that. They do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do. They, I think like, even when it comes to like, you know, having a offspring and everything, they think about that. They think about, damn, I'm sure. But if I give me a tall woman, about five, nine, five, 10, and I ain't, hell, five, six, I might be. I might. Yeah. You know, if they're in between. Yeah. I guess somebody five, five, I'm five, five. Well, we, we, we might have a little person. Mm hmm. And nothing wrong with a little person. I'm just saying. Yeah. Because you look at Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Con, Kanye, what, Kanye, five, five, but Kim, five, two. Damn. We got our game on Monday night. We got the Yukon Huskies taking on the Michigan Wolverines on a Monday night. Who you got? You would start with you, Ocho. Who you got? I got Michigan. I got, I got, I got, yeah, I got Michigan. I got Connecticut since Ocho got Michigan. I ain't got. Damn, damn, damn, Joe. I ain't, I ain't ride with you. I got Michigan. You want, you want, I mean, you got Michigan. I got Yukon. Let's bet some on it. All right. Would you, you know what? No, let's not bet. Let's not bet. Let's not bet. What? I don't know. You got. Oh, man. If Lindembourg wasn't hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might got to go Yukon, man. I don't know a big, I don't know if they can beat Yukon without him. Right. Without him healthy, 100%. Yes. Yeah. I, I, I tell you what, I tell you what, since both of y'all, both of y'all got Yukon, right? Yeah. Let's, let's, let's make it a little small wager, a little small wager that's feasible for me where I want, I won't miss it. 500 a piece. Listen, listen, listen, oh, Joe, I already owe you an ass with me. I just don't want it to get out of hand. You know what I mean? Where you owe me the way you owe me now. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, look what he got on the back of the man. That's what I, we've been talking about this already. You know that's your boy. That's me. I'm going to send it. I'm going to get the ass. Let's go and send that to you. There you go. What size is it? What size is it? Make sure I can. What you going, you going to wear? Yeah, I'm going to wear it. Say it. Large, Joe. Large? Yeah. I can squeeze it. I can get in there. I can get in. I'm going to look. Hey, tell them, Joe, if you don't do nothing, take a picture in it. Hey, hey, come on. Hey, let's stick the business now. Let's stick the business. So we want to bet 500 or what? 500 a piece. What do you think? The shoe we're dressing on there. It's only 500. You will be 5,900 for three years. But that's an emergency fund. So what? So I guess the 500 go to the emergency fund also. No, I'm going to pay. As a matter of fact, I'm going to pay y'all right on the spot on the show Monday night. I'm telling you. And Joe, hey, Joe, for your sake, you better hope. You better hope. We know because you talk about me on you. If Michigan win, I mean, if Michigan lose, I might not want to pay you just so you get mad. See, you going to piss me off. And I'm going to whip your ass like I said. You're going to add to the ass with me. Oh, Joe, don't do that. That's all I'm saying. Because I think you a good dude. I really think you a good dude. I really do. I'm going to do it, Joe. I hate for it. He just don't pay his debt. Oh, I hate for it to go down like this. You know what I mean? It's like a dude with a gun. Like, I got one. I don't really want to use it. But you know what I mean? Don't push me. You feel me? Hey, uh, hey, uh, honestly, I think Joe barking up the wrong tree. OK. Joe barking up the wrong tree, man. All I think of a stamp. I want to pick Michigan so bad. Damn, I hate that. Linda Bird got hurt. Hey, come on. You know he hurt. He he got a little thigh contusion. He going to be right by Monday. She's going to be all right by Monday. That man man. That's like that blood in the saddle and that muscle. Yes. Hey, all they're going to do is get that grass. And that's what we call the grass, right? Oh, you talking about when they take that thing and just, yeah, right. Rub, rub, rub. Man. You're using that thing up. You're going to have to be doped up. Yeah, that thing hurt so bad. That thing hurt so bad. Yeah, it do. You ever had a contusion, Joe? Man, yeah, nothing worse than that. Well, something like you try to chase a dude, and you get need in there quiet. Yeah. It's a wrap. Oh, Joe, you outbound a week or two here. Hey, you got to get on that fast, too, boy. Yeah. Mm. Who you taking, Joe? You taking Michigan? Uh-huh. I'm taking Connecticut. You taking UConn. Yeah. Ocho taking Michigan. Yeah, so both of y'all want to go against the grain. Y'all did the same thing when it came to making that bracket. And you see y'all lost. We all lost, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Hey, listen, I lasted longer than you two. That's all that matters. It don't matter. You didn't win. I lasted longer than you two. That's the key. I was happy as hell, Arizona. Oh, yeah. So 500 by the bet. I might change my mind tomorrow. I'll let you know. See? See? See? Hey, somebody with he got common sense. Come on. Come on over here to the winning side. In Cornwall, we value the moments that matter. We value friendship. We get to catch up while we travel. I value my time. Taking the bus gives me extra time on my commute. I value family time. The family day ticket makes exploring easy. We have a range of fairs to suit everyone and under fives travel free. Download the transport for Cornwall app for all the bus info you need. Oh, UCLA, the Lady Bruins. Blow out the Lady Game costs to win their very first women's NCAA championship. In her 15th season at the helm, Corey Close pulled off what many didn't believe possible. The 28 point margin of victory is the third largest in division one basket women's championship history. UCLA, never trail, opened up a double digit lead at the end of the first quarter in route to his 34th straight win to make history. Lauren Betts was named most outstanding player in the championship. They put BTA to them girls. Man, they did a number on them girls. From the start. It wasn't close. I mean, look, held them a 29% shooting from the field, 13% shooting from the three point line. It was just too much size. Too much. Neckypins and Hawkeyes and Kiki Rice. They were the better team. And they know well around it. And it seemed like to me, you could tell early on, the game cost was missing layups, missing bunnies. And I called my sister probably about five minutes into the game, I said, it's over. She's in game just getting started, says it's over. I said their championship game was to beat Yukon. They're not beating this team. They got two, two, two big, making too many shots. They got off to such a slow start. Go ahead, Ocho. Now, I was just gonna say, I was gonna say they got off to a slow start, but they got damn defense, huh? The defense was so suffocating. UCLA was putting, and they were scoring. They got damn well. You can tell there was a difference in understanding why UCLA, if I'm not mistaken, they only lost one game this year. They did. I think. And you can tell the difference in teams. Obviously, South Carolina is good, but UCLA is a much, much better team all the way around. Yeah, I thought they had, I thought they physicality, them big girls at UCLA, obviously best. But I thought, what's her name? What's her name? Oh, Hawkeyes. She every other Hawkeyes. Ooh, I don't know how she ain't winning MVP. Hawkeyes. Did you see the look on Lauren Bads face when they say she's the most outstanding player? She was shot. Me too. I'm sorry, me too. I was more shot than you. Hawkeyes, that's young Bull, that's young Bull's sister from all the heat, huh? Yeah, she balled out. She balled out. I think they whole team balled out. Just from watching them, they kinda, it seemed like they understood they had never, I don't even think they ever been to the championship game. Nope. That was their first national championship, huh? Yeah. Hey man, them girls came out what they mind made of. Cause I thought South Carolina, you know, they got some dogs obviously, but they just didn't have a size to even compete. I mean, they girl Beds, she was, I mean, she had everybody at her mercy. They couldn't do nothing with her. No. Nah. Lauren rebounds, I mean, she was sensational today. I mean, the whole team played and they deserved to win. Like you said, the size, they couldn't do anything with the size they get picked and then they get them in a pin down and they just throw them all over the top. It's a wrap. And they just lay up hot cans, they were the defense. Will you hold a team to 29% from the field, 13% from the three? It seemed like South Carolina got a lot of girls that's kinda similar in height. Like they all can kinda go off the bounce. They all can shoot a little bit, but they just don't have enough size in the paint to be able to withstand a bet. So anybody as of such, you know what I mean? And this show, this show today, man, those girls locked in, bro. Two of the bigs, Chloe Kitts is out. She tore her knee, Watkins is dealing with some other issues. I think she might have tore her knee, but she had some issues going on. So maybe she's back, but the guys that George Saylors did not play well. Watson, who is the All-American, she did not play well. Raven Johnson didn't play well. Tessa Johnson was really the only one that played well. Makir, she shot the ball okay. They didn't play well. And that had to do with UCLA and the defense that give them credit. Yeah, South Carolina didn't shoot the ball well, but it went out there by themselves. Somebody forced them to miss those shots. Like you said, they got behind early and it just grew. It did, man. It was just like. Hey, Joe, how tall was the five from UCLA? How tall is she? Six seven. Yeah, that's the one we was talking about. Yeah, I know I wasn't tripping. Yeah, she a big girl and she was a low, old Joe. Until when they couldn't do nothing with her down there. And the thing is, remember, Joe, she had that belt when she was coughing on the sideline like she had an asthma attack or something. They needed to carve into that lead while she was out. And when they couldn't gain any traction while she was out. Yeah, because UCLA still built on the lead when she was sitting on the bench. Absolutely. Yeah, you're right. They didn't play well. Congratulations game cause you went. I wasn't at their fourth or fifth straight title game. Well, yeah, I think probably a fourth because they went back to back. They won back to back. They lost last year and they lost again this year, but. Yeah, shut up. Ain't nothing you can do, Joe. The better team won. Yeah, I ain't see this. And then the girls dancing at the end. I was like, go ahead, Ole Miss Beds. Yeah, yeah, I ain't see this though. You know, you think it's gonna be like this? What? No, I don't think they lose by 28. I thought the game would be much closer. Yes, I did. Now don't get me wrong. I ain't seen a lot of UCLA play. I may have seen like a game or two if that, but I've seen South Carolina play on numerous times. Right. And I just did not see that. After they beat Connecticut, I thought they was almost destined to win it. Yeah. But I held. Who beat UCLA? Was it Texas? With Texas? I think it was Texas. Yeah, I think they did. I think Texas don't win when they beat them. And they beat Texas in the tournament, didn't they? Yeah. Mm-hmm, yeah. And, yeah. But congratulations to the Lady Bruins winning their first NCAA championship finished to the season, 37 and one. But they got some seniors on that class. I think, I'm trying to think. I think Raven Johnson is a senior. I think they bring a lot of these girls. I mean, I don't know. They could, I mean, I think Latson, I think she comes back. She's seen you. You think she come back? I don't think she'll see you. She'll see you. Is that the one that transferred from Florida State? Yeah, I think she'll, yeah, she'll see you. Okay. She'll see you. I know Raven Johnson is a senior. Yeah. I think UCLA got a lot of seniors too. They do. Yeah, I saw that. And she hugged the lady, the UCLA coach before the game. Who did? Don. Then she, Don Staley, yeah. Yeah. But no, it's gonna be a situation where, Carolina will be back. Don Staley is a very good coach. And she got some good recruits coming in too. Yep. I think she got that girl that won a dunk contest, or didn't the girl that won a dunk contest coming in from the McDonald's All-American? I think so. And she won the Carolina? I think so. I think so. But I know she got another girl coming who will go to Sierra Cane. And then, yeah, LA, I forgot her name, but she could play. Yeah, that's where JuJu went to Sierra Cane. Yeah.