New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Chiefs and Eagles Frustrations, Philip Rivers Returns and Kelce Hygiene | EP 169

48 min
Dec 10, 20256 months ago
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Summary

Jason and Travis Kelce discuss the Chiefs' loss to the Texans and Eagles' overtime loss to the Chargers, analyzing offensive struggles, turnovers, and playoff implications. The episode also covers Philip Rivers signing with the Colts and various NFL storylines heading into the final weeks of the season.

Insights
  • Both the Chiefs and Eagles are experiencing uncharacteristic execution failures (drops, turnovers, penalties) despite strong defensive performances, suggesting coaching and discipline issues rather than talent deficiencies
  • The Eagles' offensive identity crisis stems from inconsistent play-calling; when the run game works, they should commit to it rather than constantly switching schemes
  • Philip Rivers' signing at 44 years old after 5 years away signals desperation for the Colts but also reflects the scarcity of reliable quarterback depth in the NFL
  • Team morale tactics like the 'positivity rabbit' can backfire when performance doesn't match the messaging; authenticity and accountability matter more than gimmicks
  • Critical situational football—red zone execution, ball security in clutch moments, and limiting penalties—has become the differentiator between playoff contenders and pretenders
Trends
NFL teams increasingly relying on veteran/emergency QB signings due to injury depth issuesDefensive dominance becoming more common than offensive firepower in 2024-25 seasonPlayoff positioning tightening; teams at 10-7 or 9-8 can still make wild card with favorable circumstancesTurnover differential emerging as critical predictor of late-season successCoaching staff continuity (Philadelphia Eagles connection to Houston Texans staff) creating competitive advantagesRun-game-first offensive philosophy gaining traction as counter to air-raid schemesSocial media and locker room culture initiatives (mascots, wraps) becoming more prominent in team buildingStreaming platform metrics (Spotify Wrapped, YouTube recaps) becoming standard fan engagement tools for sports media
Topics
NFL Playoff Implications and Wild Card ScenariosQuarterback Depth and Emergency SigningsRed Zone Offensive ExecutionBall Security and Turnover ManagementRun Game Strategy vs. Pass-First OffensesDefensive Dominance in 2024-25 SeasonCritical Situational Football and Clock ManagementOffensive Line Performance and PersonnelLocker Room Culture and Team MoraleWalter Payton Man of the Year AwardCommunity Outreach and Charitable WorkNFL Coaching Staff TransitionsSports Media Engagement MetricsHoliday Shopping and Consumer BehaviorEnvironmental Sustainability in Sports
Companies
Houston Texans
Defeated the Chiefs 20-10; discussed as having one of the best defenses in the NFL with former Philadelphia staff
Los Angeles Chargers
Defeated the Eagles in overtime; discussed as a strong defensive team with quality personnel like Derwin James
Kansas City Chiefs
Lost to Texans; discussed extensively regarding playoff positioning, execution issues, and community outreach
Philadelphia Eagles
Lost to Chargers in overtime; analyzed for offensive identity crisis, turnover issues, and run game strategy
Indianapolis Colts
Signed 44-year-old Philip Rivers to practice squad; discussed as emergency QB depth solution
Las Vegas Raiders
Upcoming opponent for Eagles; mentioned as having had a rough season after firing Chip Kelly
Cleveland Heights High School
Referenced in anecdote about forged signature on attendance call
People
Philip Rivers
44-year-old former Chargers QB signed to Colts practice squad after 5-year retirement; Hall of Fame semi-finalist
Shane Steichen
Colts interim offensive coordinator reuniting with Philip Rivers; former Chargers coordinator
Jalen Hurts
Eagles QB discussed for uncharacteristic turnovers and ball security issues in loss to Chargers
Patrick Mahomes
Chiefs QB mentioned regarding playoff positioning and team performance frustrations
Saquon Barkley
Eagles RB discussed as key to run-game-first offensive strategy moving forward
Chris Jones
Chiefs defensive lineman praised for strong performance against Texans defense
Derwin James
Chargers defensive player highlighted as one of Jason's favorite defensive players in the league
D'Amico Ryans
Texans head coach; former Philadelphia staff member contributing to defensive success
Matt Burke
Texans defensive coordinator; former Philadelphia connection to current defensive dominance
Lane Johnson
Eagles offensive lineman dealing with calf injury; key to offensive line stability
Reggie Sanders
Scout from Cleveland Heights who discovered Travis at baseball showcase when he forged parent signature
James Winston
Made NFL analyst debut during bye week; discussed as entertaining and charismatic broadcaster
Brett Favre
Referenced as comparison for veteran QB longevity; played into his 40s with multiple retirements
Walter Payton
Late NFL legend whose name is on Man of the Year award; family involved in award selection
Lamar Hunt
Chiefs founder credited with embedding community outreach tradition in organization since 1960s-70s
Quotes
"It's been a tough fucking go around for the past two days. You put in all this fucking work in hopes that it pays off. And right now, just for whatever fucking reason, man, it's little things."
Travis KelceChiefs-Texans discussion
"I just do it because I love seeing these kids have something that they wouldn't have otherwise. I love doing it to support what operation breakthrough means to this community."
Travis KelceWalter Payton Man of the Year discussion
"If that run game keeps going like that, you know, you got stretch working, you can do a lot of things off of stretch. You got split zone, attacking the line of scrimmage."
Jason KelceEagles offensive strategy analysis
"I think they tried it. It didn't work. You got to ditch the rabbit. The whole thing's got to go."
Travis KelcePositivity rabbit discussion
"It's a 44-year-old quarterback to the practice squad without the idea that this dude is going to play some football. I am so looking forward to what this looks like."
Jason KelcePhilip Rivers signing discussion
Full Transcript
Did you look at your Spotify? I don't know how to do it. Where is it at? You go to Spotify and I'm pretty sure it just. Oh, it's time for your 2025 wrapped. Thirteen thousand minutes, two hundred and fifty four genres. That's a lot of genres. That's way more than a lot of people for sure. My top genre is do WAP. It's going to tell you your average age. Age. Don't take this personally. Oh, my God. What is it? That's embarrassing. What is it? 83. Nice. That's pretty good. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wondry Show brought to you by Yeti. And that's not me. We're talking about Yeti coolers, the Yeti drinks, the Yeti. Everything new heights. Green. How about it? I love that. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights and shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats headed to the Liberty Bowl versus the Naval Academy. The old fashioned, the Liberty Bowl, Birmingham, Alabama. Is it still in Birmingham, Alabama? I don't think so. It's moved. The Liberty Bowl for me was in Memphis, Tennessee. No, that was the Belk Bowl. That was in Charlotte. Really? Yeah. So the Liberty Bowl moved to Memphis. It was at UAB Stadium in Birmingham, Alabama when I played in it. There you go. Right. Or am I thinking of a different bowl? I think you're thinking of Papa John's Bowl. I am thinking of the PapaJohns.com bowl. All right. Sorry, Liberty Bowl. Let's go, cats, baby. Finishes. You're off right. Subscribe on YouTube, one, two, plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new heights. Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, please, this is where you tell everyone what we're going to talk about. Well, 92 percenters, we've got a incredibly depressing football portion of this great episode. We're going to recap the Chief Sexons game as well as the loss of the Eagles and overtime to the Chargers. But we will get into a lot more NFL discussions that will hopefully be more joyous. We're going to get into all that in a minute. But first, we're always going to start with a little bit of that new news. New News is brought to you by American Express. Biggest piece of new news is Travis has been the chiefs nominee for Walter Payton, Man of the Year. This is your third. Nominate how many times you've been nominated for three or four three or four. Yeah. In particular, you're nominated for your work with Operation Breakthrough. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Walter Payton, Man of the Year, it's kind of all-encompassing. It's turned into one of the greatest honors you can receive in the NFL. A lot of it comes down to charitable work and community work, but it also comes down to how you are as a player and what you, the values and everything that you kind of exude as an NFL player to your teammates and city. And, you know, it's named after the late great Walter Payton. His family is still involved in giving out this award. So it is an incredible honor to be nominated for it. Trav, what are your thoughts? Obviously, you've been nominated before. Yeah. I mean, I was nominated last year, maybe not the year before that, but a year or two prior to that one. Obviously, you don't do the work and you're not who you are to the community and to the teams for the award. You know, you're not doing this and hopefully you one day could be it. So it's I just do it because I love seeing these kids have something that they wouldn't have otherwise. I love doing it to support, you know, what operation breakthrough means to this community. And I love doing things with my foundational team because my foundation team is amazing and they find ways to give back to the community and they find events that bring the community closer together. And it's just an honor and it's obviously representing a whole lot more people than just myself. I think the chief's community outreach is second to absolutely none. And that shows in how many Walter Payton man of the years we've had in Kansas City and the tradition that that Lamar Hunt embedded in this organization back in the 60s and 70s of how, you know, he was going to make sure that the the fans that are showing up in the community that's showing up is going to, you know, see us give back to them for how much they show up for us on Sundays, man. It's just an absolute honor to represent this organization, to represent my foundation and even more so to represent Operation Breakthrough and all the kids and all the amazing things that they're doing over there. Well, congratulations, Travis. I mean, listen, I think you do so much for that community in Kansas City. And really, I mean, Philadelphia community, you've been involved with the Ego's Autism Challenge. You do so much surrounding the NFL and the landscape and supporting the fans and different communities that the teams are in. So back in Cleveland. Oh, yeah. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. Well done. Thank you, man. And thank you to all the 92 percenters who shared their Spotify wrapped because we were the number one sports podcast on on Spotify of the 2025 year. Obviously, a lot of familiar faces up there. Up here. Yep. Absolutely. Boston with the boys made the list. We got our guy Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee, part of my tag. A bunch of friends on there that are all well deserving of it. But thank you guys for posting all that. And tuning in week in, week out. We also heard from a bunch of 92 percenters who got their YouTube recap but wanted to specifically shout out Rachel, who was in our top point. Point one percent of viewers. That's pretty crazy. Rachel said, safe to say, I look forward to Wednesdays. As she posted a picture of her literally being top point one percent of viewers. That's awesome. Shout out to Rachel. Well done. It was awesome seeing a bunch of people posting, you know, where they're at in the percentages and how many minutes. I don't know if that was on YouTube or if that was a Spotify thing, but the end of the year recaps. Did you look at your Spotify? I don't know how to do it. Where is it at? You go to Spotify and I'm pretty sure it's just free. Free Spotify ad. It's fine with them. I'm cool with it. Is it in? Where is it at? It should be in home. Oh, it's time for your 2025 wrapped. All right, we're ready for you. For you. Swipe up. You listened 13,300 minutes, 250 for genres. It's a lot of genres. That's way more than a lot of people for sure. My top genre is do WAP. Oh, you're seeing me and you are. What was your it's going to tell you your average age? Oh, so do WAP is more because that's I sing a lot of do WAP songs to Finney. For some reason, she stops crying when I sing like Fleetwoods and some of the like do WAP music from back in the day. OK, then obviously I'm always been an outlaw country guy. Synth pop, big synth pop, children's music. Yep, this is all adding up. Beach music. Here we go. Age. Don't take this personally. Oh my god. What is it? That's embarrassing. What is it? 83. 83. Nice. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I'm older than dad. I was 68. Yeah. I was run right on right underneath that. That's hilarious. Nice. Well, it's always fun to see what's your average age is compared to your Spotify and the songs you're listening to. That wraps up new news brought to you by American Express. Let's get to some fan mentions. You got a fun basket weave mention from E.A.W. 7354, the official way to hold garages. The old double hand. I just want to be good. That's not that's not a basket weaving style technique, right? The basket weaving hand over hand or is that basket weaving? I didn't write basket weaving here. Have you ever held a beer by two hands? I don't think I've ever done that. Not crossed like that. I kind of want to try it. Ball security, beer security. Beer security. What a man. That sounds like a TV show. By the way, I do want to point out outside of the doo wop album because I play that every night when I'm singing a Finney. Second album. Tate Tase, you know it. That was number one for me. Damn. I don't have any. Can't you sing to see? Flops. I can't sing Tate songs. I'm not bad. Dad, you're really off pitch here. Sing along. You can sing along. They're catchy. They are. Alrighty. Bold topics to wrap up week 14. Let's start with Sunday Night Football. Chiefs 10 Texans 20. Trav, I'll let you take it away, brother. Yeah, man. It's been a tough fucking go around for the past two days. Yeah, it's just you put in all this fucking work in hopes that it pays off. And right now, just for whatever fucking reason, man, it's little things. It's I don't know, discipline. I feel like I've always had the answers in years past and this year just I just can't find them. And I keep thinking if I show up to work and I put in the work and I fix the issues through my practice habits and through through perfecting the game plan and my fundamentals and what I'm being taught and go out there and try and play my ass off for my guys next to me. It's it's all going to come together like it has in years past and this year is just not, man. Not to say that I won't keep doing that. It's all that I can do. It's all that I I'm going to always show up to work and fucking give it my all. And if there's a game to be played, I'm going to fucking make it the most important game of the world. Yeah. But obviously looking at the. The playoffs, this is a tough reality to be in. Especially with, I don't know, just how how we've always found a way in years past. So it's it's a shitty fucking feeling, especially dropping the fucking ball late in the game like that when we were on our last fucking chance to make something shake. It's a shitty feeling, man. I hear you. You put in all this work to, you know, be there for your guys. And I just I just wasn't that. I was going to point out, I think that that catch would have been pretty damn impressive catch. That was a tough one to I mean, you're running all the way over here and you're trying to reach back. I know you always hold yourself to a high standard, but that would have been a tough catch. I'll say this again, it's another game that was right there, right? Like and we knew going into it, the Texans had a great defense. We knew Chiefs had a great defense and it was going to come down to the team that made the fewest mistakes. And at the end of the day, what the drop passes and things at the end of the game, even throughout the game, there were multiple times where you guys had the opportunities and it just like. It's just been a very weird year for the Chiefs. And you guys have been in, I mean, what is it, seven straight. This was the first time in what nine seasons you guys aren't going to win the AFC West or whatever it is since 2015. You know, I think sometimes the ball just doesn't fall your way. And you guys have had the epitome of that this year. Yeah, I don't know. I know it's frustrating. I know that, you know, it's a competitor you are and how badly you want it, how badly Pat wants it, the work you guys put in. So I feel for you for sure. And I know that that game in particular was a frustrated one because of what it meant. But it's frustrating. But we got four games left and they'll put my fucking heart on the line for these guys because they deserve that. Chiefs King, you guys deserve that. And we keep this thing fucking rolling, man. What is the mindset? You guys just one game at a time, just got the chargers this week. Just yeah, I mean, obviously we we don't necessarily control our own destiny at this point. Like I said, we need some things to happen outside of us winning all our games. So that's all you can do, man. You got the chargers coming in and you just get after them. I just feel like if you guys get the 10 and seven this year in the AFC, that that'll sneak in at a wild card. But one game at a time. Yep. Four games left. Yeah, what are the Chiefs have to get fixed the most? What are you guys the most focused on? Critical situations towards the end of game showing up. I mean, obviously, drop passes. Yeah, drops are the things that stood out to me watching it. Miss blocks and key situations that could spark big runs, spark big plays and scoring touchdowns. You got to score touchdowns in this league, man. And field goals aren't going to cut it. I think it's just details on all phases, even though I thought our our defense fucking showed up and played a hell of a game against the the Texans this week. Chris Jones, my God. He was showing his heart, man. That's for sure. Spags was down up all these blitzes. I mean, it was it was a fun game to watch from the defense for sure. They were they were doing everything they could. And shout out to the Texans, man. They made plays when they needed to. They got good players over there. I mean, that defense is freaking it's the best in the NFL right now. Yeah. D'Amico Reigns. It's kind of dude, every single person on that staff I played with him. Filly, it's kind of amazing considering how they all have like and not a lot of them weren't even there together. Like D'Amico is the head coach. Matt Burks, DC. Corey Unlens in the backfield. Billy Davis, who was the DC when Chip was here as the linebackers coach. I mean, it's whenever I met a Houston, I'm like, God dang, this is like former Philadelphia right here. But yeah, they're rolling on defense, man. Those guys are doing a great job coaching those guys up and they have great players. I do got to shout out Esa Poli. Play good, man. The biggest thing I was worried about was the offensive line. And he played against who I think is one of the best players in the NFL. It has been for a while, the Neal Hunter. And he he held his own more than held his own. No, he came in. He came in and yeah, I was extremely proud of him. Happy as hell for him. And when I tell you, man, you want to talk about a guy that was just fucking happy to play ball, man. Yeah. Out there, high energy, no matter what the situation was, seemed like he was ready to fucking get after it. That's awesome. A guy like that who's just kind of itching at the bit to be able to get out there and show show the world what he's got, man. The big athletic guy, man. And happy as hell for him. Just wish we could have got the win for him. We got the Chargers this week, obviously coming off a win against the Eagles as we're about to get into, man. A team we know, a team that knows us and they're rolling to our balls. Got them playing their best fucking ball and Herberts playing lights out. And yeah, we're going to have our hands full, man. Just go ahead and get to this Eagles Chargers game, though, on a little Monday night out there in Los Angeles. Jason, you kind of summed up the game by tweeting FML. If you want to tell everybody why you tweeted it. It was just a frustrating game to watch as an Eagles fan. You know, we just like continually kept kicking ourselves in the foot. And I mean, it was, you know, turnovers, you know, penalty down low takes us out of off the two yard line. I mean, it was just one thing after the other. Very frustrating game. I felt like there was more to be had. It did feel like we were starting to click. And then every second we got into the red zone turnover every single time we got a chance to get a touchdown, we get knocked back and kick a field goal. We'd miss a few. We missed a few. It was just like not too much different than the Chiefs came in. It's like, man, we had our opportunities more than our opportunities. And we did a lot of good, really good things in the game against a really good team, we get to really good defense. Like the Chargers defense is one of the better units in the NFL statistically. And like personnel wise, one of my favorite defensive players in the league in Derwent James over there. Love watching that guy every chance I get to see him play. So yeah, just a really frustrating game. And it ended in a very frustrating fashion where we're putting together a great drive, play an outstanding ball and over time, driving the length of the field. And then the interception to lose just it was just a gut wrenching way to end that one. And, you know, we needed to get some momentum back. And unfortunately, a very sloppy game. Again, leaves the Eagles in another week of frustration. And listen, if we take care of business and don't have these mistakes, it's it's going in a different direction and we're we're rolling. So it was a frustrating, frustrating game. You mentioned that last turnover that kind of sealed it, but eight combined turnovers, dude, it was nuts. It was like the ball was in butter. I don't even know like, like what? It's insane. There's a few. I mean, I'm the one play, obviously the interception from Jalen. They pick it up. We force a fumble. Jalen recovers it. And then while he's still trying to get control of that thing, he fumbles it. It was just a comedy of turnovers all game long. It was a there were a lot of what the fuck plays. And Hertz actually became the first player since 1978, with two turnovers on the same play, which tells you how rare that shit is when it happens. But six in the second quarter alone is fucking ridiculous. Yeah, it was it was a horrendous game of ball security. Which is not. So Jalen, I know the last couple of weeks have been rough for him. This is one of the things he's done well his whole career is taking care of the football and it's unfortunately been too out of, I guess, character or not. Common games from from him and from our team that have really cost us. I mean, we this offense has been so stagnant and like the three in and out and it's like struggled to get anything going the last couple of weeks. You know, this team and the is well, the defense is great. The defense is phenomenal. This game outside of the Bears game and maybe one other one against the Giants. They've been great all season. Offensively, they're looking for what who they are. It looks like they're looking for that identity, right? And there's so many good pieces and. You know, they all these plays are great individual plays for this guy, this guy, this guy and this guy. And it's just, you know, what who are we and what are we going to be about? And throughout Jalen's tenure and I think what lends itself to the best for this team is, man, we got to, we got to attack the line of scrimmage with one of the best runner backs in the game and just repeatedly stick to that. And then take our shots down the field. It doesn't need to be this like kind of crazy outlandish thing. And I know everybody's talking about the scheme and whatnot. There were plays in this game to be had. There were opportunities. Guys were open. Yeah. Um, I, I thought that quite frankly, we had a really good game offensively. Yeah. I thought you guys did. Outside of the turnovers. Turnovers are crazy. Yeah. And I think that there's some positive things moving forward. First of all, the defense is still playing out of their mind. But listen, if that run game to keep going like that, you know, you got stretch working, you can do a lot of things off of stretch. You got, you got split zone, attacking the line of scrimmage. I know everybody talks about under center versus gun. I really just think about it like just build a wall, get running off the ball and make those guys stop that. To in order to stop that, you got to, you got to commit to the line of scrimmage and then that opens things behind them. And you know, they're, they're a good team as well. Jesse Minner did some things that threw us off on plays here and there. That's going to happen. Yeah. I thought it was an overall, there's a lot of positive takeaway from the game in a game that looks really negative because of the extremely bad plays that happened. There were some good things in my opinion on that tape. I thought the guys ran block better than they have in a lot, in a, in a while. I thought the tight ends did a pretty darn good job in this game for the most part. And yeah, I mean, uncharacteristic game for Jaylin. He cleans that up. Full confidence. He will. And the defense keeps playing like this. I know that's a lot of ifs and buts and candies and nuts. But, you know, yeah. I hear you coach Kales. Does getting Lane Johnson back soon help? Yes, of course. That's why is that even a question? Hopefully you guys can get him back and hopefully land is not too banged up. Then he can, he can keep, keep things rolling. I know he got a little banged up and came out for a quick second. Yeah. I think he had a calf injury. I think that's what it was. I said, but he came back in late, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe just keep it moving to positivity rabbit. So is it this has been a thing with the offensive line for a while now? No, this is the first time it showed up. I don't even, I thought it was landing because it feels like landing since humor landing said it wasn't him. I have no idea where this fucking rabbit came from. There you go. It showed up today and the offensive linemen stressed to me that they are not sad. They just wanted good vibes. Bunny, this is from Ashley Sullivan. Would assume a reporter out there in the affiliate area. At the end of the week, this positivity rabbit showed up in the locker room. And obviously this is kind of like somebody trying to. It's a lot of negativity in Philadelphia for and before the game for an eight and four team that's first in their division and certainly looking like they're going to be in the playoffs. I think the team was trying to make a statement like, hey, we're. We're all in on this together. We feel like we're still the real deal. Yeah. For being honest, I don't really like the rabbit. I think it's kind of like. It's a little hokey. But listen, if they like it, who the fuck? I don't really give a fuck that much, but you got to go back it up. You go out there and you turn the wall over a bunch and largely you're the reason that you lose the game. Rabbits got a fucking carrot. Get the fuck out of here. Get the antics out of here. Bad vibe. The bad didn't work. What did they say about it? So it showed up today in the offensive line. Stressed to me. They are not sad. They just wanted good vibes. Bunny. So you're asking Brandon, should they ditch the rabbit or double down with more rabbits? Just put more rabbits in. What do you, which way do you go with this? You're saying get rid of it. I think they tried it. It didn't work. You got to ditch the rabbit. I mean, the whole thing's got to go. It's got to go. Yeah. I kind of. Or do you double down? Do you have a different? Do you add to you put different holiday mascots in there? Do you get a leprechaun? Do you get? I mean, the more rabbits is funny. I don't know how much you want to joke around about just. At this point, a fucking. A season going the wrong direction right now. But if I'm losing that one and we got to get rid of that shit. That's my. I honestly, if I'm being very brutally honest, I thought it was a surprise to see the rabbit because I'm like. It's a sign of just like too much like joking around with something that I think is like, actually, like you should be really fucking pissed off at the way you're playing. And it's OK to be positive. But like, you know, this is something you do when everything's rolling in your freaking performing well, you don't do antics like this when you've shit the bed for the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I hear you. Well, we got a monsters fun day football. Do we have this is a Jason Kelsey monsters in? It is. This is pretty cool. The what is this ESPN does this all cast. This is at least the second year. Last year they did a Simpsons characters, but they use somehow they do it with like AI or some animation program or whatever. But it mimics the game happening. I think Dan or Lofsky, I mean, the Kimes and I forget who else is on the call, maybe Jeremy Fowler. I don't know, but there's a whole nother like broadcast happening. And they do it. They did it this year in the monsters, ink style and swag. And I did the pregame show for it. Nice. And we were monsters for the pregame show of the all cast. And I mean, I just love the beard. That's great. It's absolutely. And then look at the eyebrows. They made sure. I'm thinking shit. You already know that's not Jason Kelsey unless you throw some thick ass eyebrows on there. Dude, this would be fun to just wear this as my outfit, though. Just get like a collar with a. You're insane. That's pretty good, though. The Eagles got the Raiders at home next week, though. They do. I know the Raiders had a rough season this year. Obviously they've already fired Chip Kelly off in his coordinator. Hasn't gone their way, but it's still the NFL, man. Any any team can win any given Sunday. And the Eagles need to get some momentum going. They have to go out there and perform. Yeah. I really feel strongly they need to figure out what the identity is that they want to do. And I think they were closer to doing that this last week. I think when something's working, I would love to see them just continue to press that. You know what I mean? It feels like a lot of the times they they they do something that works. And then they're on to the next thing that they want to. They went into the game wanting to do. They hold on. Hey, if we're doing this really good, if Seyquan's rolling with these types of plays, make them defend that. If they can't show that they can defend that, bro, keep taking it. Some of the spread things are interesting. I thought they they adjusted well with empty where, you know, when they do those like zero, they know you're in five man protection. So they just read the guards, make you hot, and then you got to get rid of the ball. If you want to live an empty, you need to move the back around a lot. Put the back in the backfield, motion them out. Put the back in the backfield, motion them out, bring them back in. Jett a tight end across a formation, act like the tight end is jetting, and then he stops. And then you do like a six man protection with the tight. Like you got to at least mess with the numbers. So it's not predictable every time you line up at empty. It's going to be five man protection. Otherwise, they're just going to sit flat footed, make you hot and rally to the ball. But that's a whole other fucking thing. Big game this week, obviously, Raiders in the link. They need to go out and put forward a good game. I don't care what the Raiders record is. At this point, the Eagles need to show that they can be a consistent, good football team. Limit the penalties, run the ball well, control the line of scrimmage and take your shots when they're there. It doesn't need to be this air raid, high scoring attack with the way this defense is playing grind it out. Eventually the run game gets going the more and more that you pounded on these guys. It really sucks with how good the defense played this last week that we weren't able to get a victory for them. And really with how they played the whole season. We can be this type of offense. I really believe that I hear you. They got to put it all together, man. There we go. It's the name of the game, baby. All righty, thanks to our presenting sponsor. That's right. Oh, yeti. Fuck yeah, I love these things. Who doesn't love a good yeti? Check these things out, dude. I do a podcast with one and a drink out of one. Check these things out right here. These NFL ramblers that yeti sent us. Got the Eagles one here. I also got a New Heights Green one. Ooh, it's a good green. It's a good green. We also have a Super Bowl Champions one right here. Boom, with a little thermos top. 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Who was the Charger staff and interim office of coordinator in 2019 with Philip and potentially first grandfather to play in the NFL. That's crazy. That's his oldest kid is older than their star, Tita and Tyler Warren, which is pretty, pretty staggering. Fact right there. Yep. Also older than his head coach, Stikin. That's right. He's and his office of coordinator. Again, Philip, Jim, Jim, Bob is 41 and Shane is 40. He is also older than 12 current NFL head coach. Listen, and I bet you he can still go out there and sling it. Got it, man. He's a semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame this year because he's eligible to go in the Hall of Fame. That's how long he's been out of the NFL. And it is 2025. So it's a five year removed guy at 44, who is a grandfather coming out of retirement to join an NFL team. Sounds absolutely fucking bonkers. But I want to see it as a fan. I cannot wait to watch a grandpa go out there and sling this fucking thing. I hope he is starting this week. I want to see it so bad. What does this do for his like Hall of Fame? Is it now it's another five? Five every sets it? Yep. Wow. I know from my from Shane's time and he's a glove to get in. There's no question. He's the only thing he doesn't have is a Super Bowl. But statistically, and the competitor he was and how he played the game. That's not even a question. 100 percent. Shane Stikin from when he was in Philadelphia, Frank Reich, Nick Siriani, knowing all these people that were with Philip at some point in his career. I don't know that I've ever heard of another of coaches speak higher of another player. They look up to this guy like he is in a realm of his own, not just as a player, like mentally, the way he operates, the way he puts the team positions. I've just heard nothing but like the most incredible things about him as a teammate and player. Yeah. I want to see it happen. I mean, I'm just hoping it holds up. If he can stay healthy. This is like Bert Reynolds coming out in the longest yard. What? How old was Brett Favre when he was like still like trying to hold on to it? Like 40, 40. He was still he was never stopped. Was he that's was just hard to imagine. And I know he's got enough kids that he's retired like three times. He was five years. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There wasn't like a prolonged period where he was out of it for a long time. No, 100 percent. I think maybe a year was like the most he set out. It's hard to imagine a guy that hasn't played football in five years. Is 44 is still going to be able to physically do it. But I'm not down in Phillip Rivers. I'm just not going to do it. I know that's for games. I know that's crazy. And a run at the and a run of the playoffs if they make it. Give them a man some tour at all. I know he's still been active. He's got like 20 kids, including grandkids. So he's still running around playing with them, suckers. Yeah. So he's still been doing something. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure his son is actually like one of the biggest quarterback recruits in the country. Yes. And to clarify, Brett never went. He'd never stopped playing. He would retire. Then you play the next year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or say that he's yeah, whatever he did. What was that movie where the guy retired? He becomes a teacher and then he comes back in and throws the baseball. The Rookie. Is that the Rookie? I think so. That's what this reminds me of. Are you thinking of the Dennis Quaid movie, The Rookie? Dennis Quaid. That's it. Yeah. Is it Rookie? Yes, that is correct. The idea is correct. I knew it. This has instantly become one of the most exciting things I can't wait to potentially see. This got released on air on Monday night. I mean, it's just it's just practice squad right now. We don't know if he's actually. You don't add a 44 year old quarterback to the practice squad without the idea that this dude is going to play some football. I am so looking forward to what this looks like. I hope he freaking balls out. I really do. So you don't think they go with the young kid? I think he's hurt, too. They're third string guy. I think it's hurt. Why would it be practice squad? Just so that they can figure out throughout the week. They're trying to make sure he's like is ready to go. He did the workout and did the physical. Now it's like, hey, we got him on the practice squad. We don't have to cut somebody. Let's see how he looks in practice. Who went in the game then? When Jones Jones, I think it was the other kid, but I think he got hurt, too. This whole time we just been asking each other questions. We don't know. The guy who went in for down Jones, Riley Leonard got injured as well. That's what I thought. Now they potentially could be under their fourth string guy. And that's what you make a call to grandpa. Hey, grandpa, can you say the day when you have to rely on the fourth string? You go out and get a 44 year old. It's a lot of force. Four four four four. Put the fours up. James Winston made his NFL Analyst debut during the buy and it might just be his electric on TV as he is in the huddle. Let's take a look at this video. Ever since Liam Cohen has been getting recommendations on how to pronounce Duvall the right way. He went Duvall. How would you how would you pronounce it, James? Duvall. What's your Broadway one? Duvall. Yes, the New York got to me. But I got the jack. You got the jack. Electric. I mean, that's one of the most entertaining human beings in the world. It doesn't matter what he's doing. He can literally just be walking down the street and talking to civilians about anything. Yeah. And it's going to be fucking hilarious. Everything he does with the camera on him is fucking pure comedy. He's a charismatic motherfucker. No question about it. All right, let's wrap some stamps of the week here. Stay with the week is brought to you by Amazon. Amazon, how about it? Let's see this six year old that delivers 10 stiff arms clip. Jesus, how big is this kid's head, by the way? Look at his helmet looks bigger than everybody else's. Oh, my God. This is why they made weight limits in the leagues. Yeah, this is why you've been able to get rid of the weight limits because it was oh, my Lord. Like everybody else looks like little giants. This is like a real nice version of spike. This kid gets it the worst. He gets it there and then he's not even up able to tackle. He gets it again. The pro move right there. Don't even let him get up. These aren't even stiff arms. They're just like just like mush it's just like throwing them with one arm. Good Lord. I'll give the stamp of the week. This is amazing. I'll go with that one right there. Hard to think there's going to be a better clip than that. I might just beat it right here. Wyoming students built a beer snake to honor Josh Allen at his Jersey retirement. What is a beer snake? You've never seen a beer snake? No, at a ball game. No, it's when you put all the cups. Yeah, all the beers that have been drank. And then you just see how long you collect them. You see how long. Yeah, it's pretty dope. It's pretty fucking sweet. He was going all the way up to the second level. That's fucking epic. It's awesome. Yeah, that's a lot of fucking beers consumed. And I'm proud of you, Wyoming. That's really the that's the what the stamp of the week is. Not for stacking the cups. It's for drinking the beer necessary to be able to stack the cups. Exactly. You guys have a good energy in that game. I guarantee it. Stamp of the week. Well done, Trev. That does it for stamp of the week. Brought to you by Amazon. Keep those beer snakes rolling, baby. And all you big little kids, you keep stiff arm and everyone. All right, thank you to our partner, DraftKings. 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Travis, I'll let you take this away because I know you at least have done some forgeries. I've done this on countless. I literally cannot count how many times I've forged my parents signature. Let's start off. What was the one that stands out to me the most was actually kind of one of the coolest opportunities that I ever had in middle school in my first couple. I was either in eighth grade or ninth grade. And the Atlanta Braves were hosting a showcase in Lakewood, Ohio. And I was over my friend's house and my friend's older brother was going to the showcase because he was out of high school and he just wanted to like give one last chance of like getting in front of some scouts. And they were holding an open trial but you had to be either 18 or older or you had to have your parents there. The signature. The signature is saying that this is my guard, I'm the guardian or I'm the parent and guardian. Yeah. And I just said, fuck it. I'm just gonna write Kelsey's name down here. I knew his number. Just put the house address down there. And sure enough, I went out there and got on the mound and like was like pumping like mid 80s. And they were like, how old are you? I'm like 13, 12, 13. And they were like, I'm sorry, what? You're kid, you're six foot and you're 13 and you're pumping 80. And one of the scouts there just so happened to be from Cleveland Heights. His name is Reggie Sanders. Oh, nice. And he pulled me over. He's like, is this, is your parents here? And I was like, no, they're not here. And it was like, I'm pretty sure it was illegal for them to like talk to a kid that age or something like that. So yeah, no, but I got Big Ed on the phone call real quick and got told don't fucking do that ever again. But countless amount of field trips. It's initiative right there. Yeah, also in middle school, I used to forge Big Ed's signature on the report cards because the report cards you had to like, yeah, they had to be seen by the parents and everything. And I'd be like, I'm not fucking showing dad this. He'd be, he's not gonna be happy. I'm just gonna be happy. Yeah, he'll just figure out when I'm ineligible. Yeah. I never forged a signature, I don't think, but I did try to forge his voice. No, yeah, we know this one real well. Yeah, that one's already been told on the podcast. Same Patty's day, yeah. That's right. This is Clark, our good friend, Harry Clark's mom was in charge of the attendance at Cleveland Heights High School. Same Patrick's day, I wanted to go to the parade downtown and I called the Cleveland Heights High School. I don't even know if she was in charge of attendance. She was just like, she was working in the office and when Jason called the office, she was the one that answered. She's like, I might have been it. Yeah. Jason, who is this? Travis? No, she said. I said, hey, Mr. Clark, this is Ed Kelsey, Jason's sick. He's not gonna be able to come into school today. And she said, who is this? This is not Ed Kelsey. Ah, Travis, is this you? Oh, shit. So yeah, I got a call from dad pretty quickly after that. Too good. What's the next one? Hi, it's Eva from Allentown PA. It's used to describe each other's personalities as any drink, what would it be? I'll go first. I already know it. Mine? Yeah. Don't fucking. You already know where I'm going. Kind of three. One, two, you know exactly what I'm about to say. Probably good advertisements for him. We both say drink Rajbeer. One, two, three, four loco. Which one do you want to drink? Four loco? Just energy. Just free and the juice. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, I mean, I drink accelerators with tequila. It's essentially the same thing. What is Jason? If I'm a four loco, you're like a, you're like a Yeager bomb. Oh my God. You're a fucking Yeager bomb. I just had my first Yeager bomb in a long time. It wasn't even a Yeager bomb. It was just a shot of Yeager in Wisconsin. Ah! For some reason they drink it at the freaking, the supper clubs up there. As good as you remembered? It's exactly what I remembered. And it's probably one that I probably hopefully won't have for another, I'm not a big liquor drinker. Everybody else wants to buy shots. I'm like, dude, if I drink this beer, I will not get to a point that I will, I'm going to be upset about. If I drink these shots, this whole thing you go sideways in a second, if I start just doing shots of people, I'm not interested. Give me my garage beer, I'll be happy. All right, I'll take some shots. How often should you wash the towel after you use a shower? Starts to smell really. It starts to get crusty and hard, then it's time to replace it. I mean, you're just washing the, you're clean. So it's like, that being said, I use a clean towel every time, but I mean, I understand if like. You use a clean towel every, you like you only use a towel once? Yeah. Wow. It's very wasteful Travis, uses up a lot of, yeah. Using a lot of energy to wash these towels. I also have a lot of towels. I fucking went out and got a fucking lot of towels. Don't you read the disclaimers at the hotels? If you reuse the towel, it's better for the environment. I gotta say, some of these environmental things, I am, I'm getting to the point that. Give me a hot one. Something ruined you earlier. What is it? Paper straws. Paper straws are so fucking annoying. Don't, if I get a paper straw, I'll just take the lid and the straw off and I'll just drink the drink. Have you ever adapted to metal straws? To the metal straws? Yeah. I don't like the way that feels either. Just give me the fucking plastic straw. I don't get it. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Hides. Make sure you're subscribed to the New Hides channel on YouTube and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. We just dropped our out of the house recap from our time in Philadelphia. So check that out. And thank you to all 92%ers who have come to our tailgates this year. 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