Giggling about gay rodeos, club culture, and carpe diem

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Get all the insights at podcastpulse2025.com. That's podcastpulse2025.com. What's up my gravitas giglers? I feel like it's one of those words that's like... Does it mean free? No, that's gravitas. I feel like it's giving like... Grappleff love. Yeah, we millennials definitely put it on a pillow. As a calm bear day, which was my high school slogan, I think. Something about being green. Something about C'est la vie. Yeah, that's what it is. Oh my god, millennials love... Perpe DM. Yes! Oh my god, put it on a poster in your room. I have a couple of things I need to talk about. I haven't listed. Go off. Where should I start? Where should I start? Let me start with something that happened last week because... I forgot to talk about it when we were... Because we were talking about so much South by Southwest. True. Did you see the video of Kiki Palmer doing something at South by Southwest? I don't even know who she was interviewing. She was interviewing like a cast of something. And a guy came up to the stage. Like walked up to the stage. Walked up to the stage. Like normal in his 30s, good looking, dressed well, had like a lanyard on. Like he was supposed to be at... First of all, what is South by Southwest? No one knows. Also, if you have a lanyard, you could do anything. Do you know that when Lucho has his camera? He goes, I can literally do anything. He has broken into so many things with me where they're like, you don't have another chicken. He's like, I have a camera. And he's like, I could do anything. It's really crazy. But anyway, it's just... He just make up a fake lanyard and walk anywhere. So this man like has a lanyard. So he walks up to the stage and he, I'm not kidding, proposes to Kiki Palmer. And Kiki is like so professional and actually like too nice to this guy. The thing that pissed me off so badly was... Remember when this happened to Drew Barrymore? Yes. And I think she was with Renee Rapp. Renee Rapp had a bodyguard. Yes. And the bodyguards ran out so quickly. No one ran out. No one. It took them like three minutes and they were like so nice to this guy. Like, oh, can you move along? Like, you know, like this isn't... No. Tackle this man. Tackle him. What are you talking about? He's walking up and proposing to Kiki Palmer. Well, that happened once in one of our shows. Remember, someone got up and just started walking towards the stage. And we both were like... I said, are you going to shoot me? And no security guard did anything. But you wonder like what security is there for. It's definitely if someone starts like going towards the stage. Well, there's no protocol in which the audience has to be on or near the stage. Yeah. Unless whoever's on stage is like we're bringing someone up from the audience. So anyone moving toward the state tackled that person. I saw that like... But Kiki is famously like the nicest, coolest, most charismatic person. But she shouldn't have been in that position. One time I met her at the Today Show and she looked at me and she said, you look like Emerata. And then she walked away and I was like... I said, I love your pixie. I did a video with her back in the day when I was at Betches. I love her. She's amazing. People don't praise her enough that she's like... Multi-talented. So multi-talented. She could do anything. But she's one of those that like is so talented that I think people haven't caught up. Like... Like guys, she was a singer. Hello. She was in a spelling bee. Yeah. She can spell. So anyway, that annoyed me. I digress. But also, when the whole audience is there, you can't suddenly be like, bro, shut the fuck up. Like you have to be nice. Well, even the people that she was interviewing, they were like almost like joking. And I was like, no, this guy could whip a gun out. That's like stalker shit. Leave Kiki Palmer alone. Speaking of mentally ill. This is a great segue. Okay. Which we rarely have. And I rarely watch something that you've already talked about because I'm like, why watch it? My friend watching this, she told me about it. I watched the manosphere. It is so deeply mentally unwell. Like I'm watching it and they're in and the guy, what's his name? Whatever. The Lewis, the Rowe is interviewing these men. And I'm like, why isn't anyone breaking the news to them that they're mentally ill and they have to go on medicine and see a doctor or call their dad or one phone call to your dad might eliminate this. The one guy also the one guy that like lives in Miami and has red hair. Yeah. Get a boy from babe, babe. Just one man. Just see you've obviously already hooked up with man. I actually don't even have to say that. But maybe date one like fully and you wouldn't have to terrorize everyone you meet. Here's the other thing. The other guy when they bring in the mom and he's like changes his whole rhetoric because the mom looks at him and is like, who raised you? And then the one guy whose wife came in and and he got all scared and was like, please cut her part. Well, they're all fake con men. They're all so dumb to any guy that has to say they're manly is not manly. Any guy who has to say they're a nice guy is not a nice guy. You're doing all of this to like make money and like, but you don't you're influencing an entire generation of men who are their brains are not formed and won't be till their forties. And it's really scary. And Gen Z is so scary. And they're blaming the fact that they're failing on women. They're saying society is like created for the men to fail because of the women. I'm like, have you heard of the patriarchy? Rita has set up for you guys. Go do one job interview. You guys set it up and you guys did this. You're complaining about the patriarchy that you're in charge of. It's so it was so freaky and so scary and weird. And it's also, I think they almost like envy women so much they want to like emulate them and do things that we like. Like this man was like, he's never going to get invited to Miami on a yacht. It's like, okay. They're so mad that girls get free drinks. He's like, she can go on a yacht with a hot guy. It's like, do you want to go with the hot guy? Because we'll tag you in. Do you want to suck dick on a yacht? Because you can. Anytime I've ever been invited anywhere by a man, I've brought other friends. You could come with me. It was one of the scariest documentaries I think I've ever watched, actually. I'm in like a RuPaul k-hole still, which is why I haven't had any new documentary updates, but one of the many challenges or challenges they have is they brought in gay rodeo. OK, now gay rodeo. I swear. Says this podcast is an informative has literally never listened to a single episode. So by the way, I cry every episode of RuPaul Drag Race. Like you think you're not going. Everyone's crying the whole time. So a bunch of these like really manly rodeo men come in and you find out they're all gay and they're all like I was afraid to come out because rodeo is so masculine and homophobic. Yeah. So like they were like, if I came out as gay, the rodeo wouldn't accept me. So they created their own. What are you? The rodeo is gay. Rodeos gay, by the way, just a bunch of men riding each other. So watch Yellowstone and shut off. Also, you're wearing heels with a pointed toe. Like there's no need. You've been accessorizing with belts and hats for years. You're wearing your gay, babe. Belts with decorations on them and showing them off. I think the same with like the WWE, like, oh, the prize is a belt. Like. OK, so it's only sport that rodeo were meant for like we need to wear jeans. You don't. That's my aesthetic. They're like, no, we do. No other sport do wear jeans. That's so interesting to the crowd. Other sports like polo doesn't wear jeans. Why are they in their like their favorite like Levi's? No, they like really lean into like the aesthetic of their sport. Like if you said to me, gun to my head, I talked about guns a lot. You are like so much violence. If you said gun to my head, what do they do in the rodeo? I would die. I've watched it once accidentally at a bar because I'll get into any sport. It's insane. They just get thrown off a bull that doesn't want them on their back. Like, it's not happening. Like, clearly, they don't want you riding that. Honestly, you know what it is? It's just like no consent. It's just men like with no consent. No, the bulls literally like, hey, can we not do this? And they're like, we're doing this. And they're like, well, I'm going to kick you off if you try. And the guy's like, I'm going to try and he's like, well, I'm going to kick you off. That's the sport. But so these gay rodeo guys created this gay rodeo for guys who wanted to come out of the closet and be gay and do rodeo in peace. And then they were getting, becoming drag queens. And it was so interesting because one of them was like, I used to do drag, but I felt like I lost myself and I lost my masculinity. But I'm finding my femininity is helping me find my power. And he was crying and I was crying. But like it's just discovering different versions of themselves. But anyway, I really love RuPaul's Drag Race. Thank you so much for that interlude, Hannah. We appreciate it on this very pleasant Monday morning. It is such a Monday today. It's such a Monday. Monday is Monday. Socialized this weekend, which is like. So when Paige socializes without me, I sit back, I wait, I'm worried. I can feel nervous. Wake up in the morning, have a 1 a.m. text of everything that went down. You made me laugh so hard. Can I say one of your quotes? Yeah. She goes, the girls are younger. The guys are exactly the same. OK, something's going on with Gen Z. And look, I feel like I talk about this a lot with like, and I think it's partly because like I get I'm getting older, but like I'm really sad that club culture is dying clubs were like such a big part of my life for so long. And thinking that like Gen Z doesn't go out and like drink and go to clubs. And like I feel bad for them because everything's recorded and you can't like be yourself. 2015, we weren't Instagramming. No, certainly not. I was living my best life on a table at a club somewhere doing something. We know what you're doing. I go to dinner. I go to dinner with one of my girlfriends, one of my guy friends, and they keep being like, OK, we're going to go to this club like after dinner. And I'm like, OK. And every club's name is a lovely female's name. Really? Delilah, Mary Lou, Jolene, like all these different club names is just like women's names. Well, it's trying to get the women to go there. Like it makes it feel it sounds like a brunch. Delilah, that sounds like a brunch. We pull up and I'm like, this is not. I know this club and I like say the name of it years ago. And they're like, oh, yeah, I think it was that club. Twenty seven years ago in 1982. So I walk in and I go, no, it's the same. They didn't even change the formation. I'm like bars over here, DJs over here. You already know everyone who works there. No, you're like, Steve, who thinks happened to me? One, I witnessed for the first time ever in my entire adult life. I witnessed I'm at standing at one table and there's it's like a row of tables. I'm standing over here. There's like maybe a couple. I'm like two tables away. I watch two men sitting at a table, three men sitting at a table alone. And I watch pretty young girls walk up to the table and I see the men look at each other like, who are these girls? Like, why do they want to like we don't know them type thing? Like get away from our table. And in my head, I'm like, hey, guys, this is the whole point. The whole point of getting a table. So that those two girls actually want to speak to you. Because if we weren't in the setting, they wouldn't. So it was like one of the weird. I was like, this is so weird. I have to go when I'm walking in. I hear a girl behind me say I'd recognize that voice anywhere. Like I'm a gigler. And so I turn around and I start talking to you were yapping. I was yapping and I start talking to this girl and her friend walks up and I look at her friend and I go, I know you. How do I know you? And she goes, I dated your ex-boyfriend after you. And I go, I've looked at your it's like I'm then it like all came flooding back. Oh, I know everything about you. I go, I've stalked your Instagram. Closeness of that relationship, but also the team that must have been spilled. Well, we couldn't even spill it. Yeah. Because we literally had like five. But you're trauma bonded. We were so trauma bonded. I was like, you're stunning. You're gorgeous. Like everything about you almost feel bad for a second that you let her date him. Like I should have intervened. I said I wanted to DM you, but I didn't want to see that. Yeah, yeah, but like I needed you to know that he was the he's the worst. Honestly, there's something so refreshing. Talking to another girl who dated the same guy to be like, he made me feel like ABC and D is that because of me? Or is that just a universal experience? Actually, I talked to two people in two separate boyfriends and they're like, wasn't that a nightmare? And I'm like, one I dated before and then the other one I dated after this girl. And it was almost like the same thing. She was like, someone needs to tell her that like he will try and ruin her life. OK, so those are the three couple things on my jacket. But also I would say like, yeah, we need to rank all the guys and leave notes on them. But I do think it's important to see how bad a dude can be so that you know what your worth is and then you date up. Like it's almost like you need that experience to know what you deserve. And I'm the kind of girl that like if you DM'd me and was like, this guy's horrible. Like I'm reading it. Oh, yeah. Like I'm not immediately being like, OK, well, that's like I'm like, well, why give me all of this? I say, who is this girl and why she said that? Right. And you're side of the story. I'm fucking judge Judy right now. And the amount of girls that like I've reached out to I reached out to one girl specifically, actually, that dated a guy that I dated prior and I reached out to her and I apologized to her because I said, I'm so sorry that I even had a moment that I would believe him over what a woman was saying. I was so blinded. I completely apologize. Everything he said was a lie. I'm sure you're lovely. I'm sure we'd be friends. She responded like, let's get to like, yeah, like all like all good. I know the type of like psychosis you were in because I did him also. Don't worry about it. Digmatization. Yeah. When they're in it, they're in it. And you got to get a letter, get through that. You can't convince her like you're like he's in jail and she's like and he calls me every day. Go fuck yourselves. This is your business. This is your business. Supercharged with the help of zero accounting software. This is managing cash flow. This is managing your cash flow with the help of zero accounting software. These are your customers paying you. These are your customers having more ways to pay you with the help of zero accounting software. This is your business. Supercharged with the help of zero helping you show your cash flow by giving your customers more ways to pay so now you can focus on making your business boom. Supercharge your business today with the help of zero. Sir, sir, we're the next. 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My top line is if you're mad at Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, which I like her name is like so intense. If you're mad at her, I so envy you because that means you've never dated a person like Dakota. Dakota truly is tell me lies. Steven in real life. Is she toxic to absolutely? There were a lot of people that were mad that like in Mormon wives, you saw her sleep with Dakota before she left to go do the Bachelorette. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, because she's a reality TV star and you're watching her reality show, you think like the other bachelor and bachelorettes weren't fucking before they went on TV or immediately after like that's insane. She's single and clearly in a toxic. People like really sometimes don't can't like see through reality TV and it really confuses me. Also people judge reality TV harsher than they judge their own friends. I think the Bachelorette season being pulled from the air is one of the craziest things ever. Well, I would like to say if you're going to pull the Bachelorette season from the air, you're going to have to pull the whole NFL season. You're going to have to pull the NBA, the NFL, MLB, golf. You probably get a lot of people out of the government. Entire government, but yet this 26 year old Mormon housewife, her whole season is getting pulled and she might get sued. Like, please. On information that they had that you already knew. You hired her knowing this information. Now the video, did you watch the video? I have to say, I don't recommend people watch the video. I watched it innocently, just like for informative purposes. I have a podcast. Correct. It was very, very upsetting. Don't watch it. There's a child. You can hear the daughter like now Taylor, Frankie, Paul, that's fucked up. Fighting with him in front of your children. Women are just better than men. We have to be better than them. And so like you should have gone into a different room and like duked it out or whatever. We witnessed a person at their lowest low. I've watched so many men on reality TV do some of the most horrible things to people. Mental, mental and get so reward. I've watched people be like, I'm a drug addict. And then be like, you're the star of the show. I've watched people get in physical altercations that if I had gotten into. Yeah, you fired. I'd be in jail. You would have been fired. The bachelorette, firing Frankie, Taylor, Paul, Frankie, Paul, Taylor. It's crazy because it's like, oh, like you've never had a season where everyone hated the woman. Well, then there were like rumors that ABC was like, oh, well, they thought it was going to be a bad season. So they rather just like take the loss. There's never a bad season. People are going to watch it. You're always going to make it good. That's what their professionals as making sure there's drama even when there isn't. Obviously I watched the entire season of Mormon. Did they cut her out of it? No, no. This was like filmed. This was aired. All of the husbands now. I think secret lives of Mormon wives should be studied in colleges and like during like feminist classes because it's such a great example of a cult. That and all the men were like, hey, marry us at 22. You're going to stay home. You're going to have a bunch of kids. You're going to keep the house. You're not going to do anything that you've ever dreamt of doing, but it's going to be good because we're going to be married and I'm going to take care of you. All of a sudden all their wives got famous and rich and they said, hey, remember that idea you had a couple of years ago where I was going to stay home and take care of the kids. Now you have to do it. They're all revolting. Freaking out. They all have seven children. Literally one of the husbands sat there and was like, well, I didn't go to med school. Why go go do it then. What do you talk? Yeah, because your wife makes so much money now that you're chilling and you're going to sit here and say to her like you did a video with another guy at Disney World dancing. Oh, to promote the dancing show she's on. Jesse's husband literally came on and was like, our wives don't monopolize the internet. I'm the leader of Dad Talk. No one wants you on our TV. Yeah, I heard they were like, Dad Talk's funnier. They actually can't comprehend that people want to watch their wives and not them. They can't comprehend that their wives are better at something than they are. Where instead, I mean, I would argue what it looks like from the outside. At least Whitney's husband is supporting her. And I would talk, this is literal jealousy because it's like even in like a friendship, I could be jealous of my friend when something good happens or I could go, that's my best friend and I'm so fucking proud that I'm her best friend. If you're not like that though, what the fuck is the point? Why are you in a relationship with someone? Your biggest hater is in your bed? I've dated my biggest hater. He was in my bed. It's fan behavior. Truly one of, you never go to sleep like peaceful. It's truly so anxious because you're like, not only do you like low key hate me, you also low key want to be me. And that's really terrifying because you're like. The men coming together, it's so like opposition to the women. It's literally like us first you guys. And I'm like, you've lost the plot. Which is about love and teamwork and like some years someone else picks up this. Some years this happens. It's about two people who are capable of supporting each other through thick and thin. There's no star. I've watched so many men and I've watched so many women on television and experienced it. The women can handle the mental load more. They seem to not get as caught up in this is my real life. Like they can separate. This is television and this isn't real. The men can't. I've truly watched so many men on reality TV and been like, okay, but that's not your that's not who you really are. This is who you pretend to be on TV. And there's going to come a certain time where the lines are blurred and you're going to go into a psychosis because who are you? I don't think you know who you are. And that's really unhealthy. I think the longer you stay on reality TV, the more your mental health and not from hate like take out like people that hate you. It's not even that. It's the mental health of filming a television show where you are truly pretending to be somebody that you're not. You're going to come for Taylor Taylor, Frankie, Paul. Let me keep my foot on this man's neck, but you're going to sit tell Colton that he can be on the number one television show. He was accused and convicted, admitted it, but we're pulling the bachelor at please. And Colton stays catching straight. Yeah, I'll never let that go. And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding. It's you feel your every day. You feel so violated just like being alive because you're like this person is it's really scary. The traders to after they filmed like you're in this crazy like psychosis. So you'll literally be hanging out with someone and be like, are you a trader? And you're like, wait, I'm not in that mindset. So when people do reality TV for like 10 years, they start believing. Yeah, especially when some people are edited to be better than they are totally. So if you on TV are edited to be this great husband or this charming nice guy with that, then the person actually in their real life believes that's who they are. And that's when illness happens. And when you have to tell a man, hey, you're not who you think you are. Well, it's crazy to have to tell a man. You're not who everyone here thinks you are. You're not who the entire public thinks you are. My Tik Tok is so savage. It said no one will villainize you more than a person who realizes that you have clocked who they really are. 100%. 100%. And I think you can just see how you look at them. Yeah, men know when I don't fuck with them. Men, I mean, men know when I don't fuck with them. It's also like I'm just disappointed. I'm not charmed. There's so many men that I've like never been mean to, never had words with. My demeanor is I don't fuck with you and like you do nothing for me and I've had them go completely off on me. Like an Imagaya haven't even said anything. I triggered my presence and like me being alive triggers you so much. I saw a thing that was like if marriage was good for women, they would have taken it away from us a long time ago. And that's so true. I was at the gym the other day. Literally, I'm the only person in there. There's one other guy. Humblebrag. Sorry, zoom in 12, 3, 30. I literally, I have my headphones in. I turn off my music because I'm like, I need to be able to hear if this fucking guy is going to come up behind me because he had his headphones on and he kept just repeating things. I just got freaked out and I was like, now I can't even listen to anything because I have to be aware. And I literally kept turning my head casually to see like where he was because I'm like, in my head, I'm like, what if he takes a weight and just hits me in the back. My mom literally came into my brain. I was like, he's going to hit me in the back of my head. He's going to pull me out. And this is why we don't work out. Yeah. This is why I don't go to the gym. I do have to do a shout out. This is our first ever woman in STEM of the week. Okay. There's a girl on TikTok who to keep her burrito closed. She used her hair tie. And geniuses are all around us. You know, that's funny because I saw a tic-tac the other day and it was a girl being like, why don't we use more of our pretty stuff in our everyday lives? And it was her using her hair clip to like curl up her like no, her like charging wires. And she just like clipped it with her hair clip. And I was like, cute. And then she like rolled up a bag of chips and she's like a barrette. And I was like, adorable. It's like I'm going to start using all my pretty things that I like for other purposes. Well, you have so many little trinkets. I love it. I love stuff. You love stuff. I love my stuff. See, I hate stuff. I love stuff. I feel weighed down by stuff. Like every three months I need to like get rid of all my stuff. Like all of it. See, I just love getting new stuff. I'm putting it with my old stuff. And I love organizing my stuff. I don't like to organize my stuff. Makeup stuff with my makeup stuff and my hair stuff. Someone asked me like, when's the last time you washed your brushes? I was like, when I lose them, I get a new brush. Like I've never washed a brush. My makeup brush. Wait, someone, I think we should do it. Somebody, I don't know if she DM'd me or commented something I can't remember. I think she meant to DM to me, but she was like, I think you and Hannah should switch routines for one week, like your skin and hair care and just see. When I tell you guys, I'm not capable. Like I've seen the military operation that is your skincare and hair care. I'd have a wig off. I like the way it's called. You just lying down. Like just showering. That's it. And then when it's time to go to sleep, like fight with yourself about can you brush your teeth or not? Cause you're so tired. Can I woke up at 6 a.m. today and I go, hmm, maybe I'll just go to bed. I'll do a face mask. Did a face mask, laid on the couch, put castor oil and a heating pad on my stomach as I got my period. Maybe that's why I'm so fired up today. Yep. Thanks. I got it yesterday. So. A red moon. Yeah, everyone. There she is. Watch the fuck out. You're like, we're totally off. Are we? We're not synced. What the hell? You want to know what it is? I think my body is so sensitive that when I date the wrong person, my body truly will reject it. So like I legit didn't get my period for like two years. I'm not kidding. It's like it was actually really scaring me at one point and I've never been more regular. I've never since high school, I have not been regular. I am almost to the fucking day. Like I had my period legitimately exactly. And this part, yes, we're into psychics. We're into astrology. I was about to say we're not woo woo, but like, I guess we kind of are. But sometimes like you're thinking about like what's within, like am I eating the wrong thing or whatever. Look outside of you. Look at your environment. Is there a hater in your bed? No, like you could go to the gym five days a week. You could eat all the fucking protein they tell you to. Work smarter, not harder. 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Get all the insights at podcastpulse2025.com. That's podcastpulse2025.com. And I think the Taylor Frankie Paul thing is such a good example of like who you choose to be with is life or death. It true like I don't say that lightly. Like it really is. What things about Dakota is a red flag to you that you've seen. Well he lies so well. He's so good at well one, he's a good looking guy. So he's already. Is he? He's yeah. I would say he's objectively a good looking guy. He's got sharp. He's got like piercing blue eyes. He's got brown hair. Like he's got good facial features. I don't know how tall he is. But the truth is, is let me be honest, the ugliest guys can manipulate you. Like it doesn't matter if they're good looking or not. But in the public, like the public. Yeah. If you're okay or not is based on looks. If you have a decent jawline. He lies so impeccably well. It's terrifying. He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him that you can see him almost be excited that people are believing him. Like he there was a scene where he's sitting with her family and I'm like, oh my God, he's giddy because he just realized they believe him. And she beats herself down so much because they're like the worst thing you could ever do is have like a baby with two men. That is one of the most deplorable, disgusting things I think I've ever heard in my life that like if a woman has a baby with more than one man, you should be crucifix. Like shut up. I think you should get some range. Let's mix it up. The DNA a little bit. Have a little whimsy. Yeah, you can just risk it all with one guy. I think this show is such a good example for like women in their 20s to not get married before 25. Yeah, we have to I keep forgetting that they're Mormons. And like, well, it's just a good thing where a good example of like the way they tell you to live is only OK if it's the man. Well, isn't their religion very like the man is the head of the household where if I hear the words head of the household, one of their husbands did a confession almost like, look, you know, our way of life is like that I'm in charge, but I'm not going to do that because I'm a nice guy. I'm like, shut the fuck up. The fact. That your wife, that you allow and that line. Lee, first of all, you're not a nice guy. If you have to say you're a nice guy, I'll say it all. But Zellian times. Also, if you disagree with the way your guys's lifestyle is and your religion, then get out. Yeah. If you're still supporting it, you support it. But yeah, that their breeders, the girls are supposed to be breeders. So the fact that they're doing other things, all the men are going cuckoo bananas. Yeah, because they're not making the men's life lives easier. But they are. They're bringing in tons of money for that. Maura Higgins did an interview one time and she was talking about how she dated a guy and he said to her, like, I make your life easier. And she said, really? How? And he said to her, why carry your bags? She was like, oh my God, how did I live 33 years without you carrying my bag? Like they're so delusional. It does remind me when I was in my early 20s. This guy was like obsessed with me when I was in my darkest point. Like I was debating becoming a yoga instructor. I was like very lost. I was scared. I didn't have a purpose. I was pretty depressed and I was confused. And he was like, perfect. As I started figuring out what I wanted to do for a living and get career momentum, suddenly there's issues. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, oh, people like me more when I'm successful. Lil Daino that he was actually resenting me more. Yeah. And I wasn't successful is a strong word. Like I got a job. And I was like passionate about it and excelling at it. And it's it's just ironic. But thank God he acted that way so I could get him out. Even when we started Giggly Squad, I was like seeing someone who was like, are you really going to do this like a little podcast? And I was like, oh yeah, babe, just wait for it. I've never known then Instagram recommends threads to me, which is a scary place. Yeah. Because some people are like just saying all their inner thoughts, which are mostly not healthy, but occasionally it's like informative. And one girl was talking about how many girls are in their 30s, where early 30s or mid 30s where their career isn't where they want it to be yet. But they're feeling pressure to have a kid. Yeah. And some of them haven't met a person that they want to settle down with to have a kid. Here's the other thing. You're told like, have a kid, have a kid, get married, be a wife. And then you do it. And then all of society is like, ew, we hate you. So it's like you literally just tricked us into doing something. And then you're going to treat us worse. Like if someone was like, if you have a baby and you get married, like people let you sit down on the subway and they treat you with like the utmost respect. Okay, cool. Then I'll do it. They literally treat us worse though. They're like, why are you working? They force you to have the kid. Even if you're like, I can't have this kid. Remember when Whitney went and did Chicago? They were like, but you have three kids. It's like, okay. And there's another parent in the home. Also, isn't it so cool that those kids are able to see their mom living her dream? Like how inspirational. And like showing up and Broadway and being like, that's my mom. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. Obviously. Are we just the only ones who fricking get it? Like I can't. On a lighter note, I saw a tweet that said, I really thought hammerhead sharks would be more relevant. When we were growing up, they had some like media momentum. They were like doing well. Haven't heard about them. Like they're out of the limelight completely. Did they just decide to like go to a farm somewhere? Like they used to be at every event on the cover. It was like really good early 2000. Well, think about Shark Week. Shark Week had like really good PR when it first came out. People were like canceling plans for Shark Week. Yeah. Cause it was cable. That's what it was. We didn't have. And streaming hasn't figured out a way to take Shark Week over. I think like I'm good. There is a good documentary about how you can make friends with sharks. Like let's just do more AI dinosaurs. Yeah, sure guys. That's exactly how it went down. Like, I mean, what was that? I don't know if like we're also at a point where like now the world is so crazy that when I see something I go, that's AI and it's not like I'm reverse AIing myself. I'll be like, I'm not going to send that to anyone. That's AI. And now all I do is watch parrots get haircuts. Cause I'm like, is it AI? Who knows? Who knows? Wait, is that when they comb it back? Yeah. Like so satisfying. You like that cause he looks Italian. I love the Bob. I love a Bob on any one. I love the Bob. I'm like, yeah, all parrots should have a Bob. Why wouldn't they? Daphne now ship ships. International Daphne ship it to Canada. But I want to shout out the Canadian girls because they're really the number one girls that were like, please start shipping internationally. And so I was like, we got to work on this specifically for the Canadians. So you can buy Daphne now in Canada. To get it to Canada. Like, how does that work? Katy Perry. I was like, Katy, can you like talk to that guy and see if like I could just like send some jammies? She's like, yeah, sure. But I was it reminded me. I was thinking about how hard ice skating is. Yeah. Can you ice skate? Um, are you holding the rink on the side? Can I ice skate? I can, but I can't. I'm not like putting the skates on and just like getting out there. Like I need like 10 minutes to like regain my my bearings. Get the vibe. Like, but I took ice skating lessons as a child at some point. Oh, and also all. I was like, Kim, well, it was. She wanted to see you in a little like, oh, she loved an outfit. Like that is so fucking cute. Now she's a ballerina. I'm like, how about we sit on the couch? I did want to let people know, though, that my mom was telling me a story. And I realized I've been a delusional icon since day one. Never ice skated before. And I was like eight years old and I get to the rink in Brooklyn. There's rank and I see all the big teenage girls in the middle. Yeah, doing jumps. Yeah. And you're like, so I look at my dad and I'm like, I want to go over there. Yeah. And he looked at me and he's like, you don't know how to ice skate. When you learn, you can go over there and I go, I'm not skating with these fucking losers, put me in the middle and let me go. And he is my hidden talent or it's not that. Let's say you're going to hurt yourself. You're like, actually, like you'll get tackled. Like they don't let you. You can't go. Yeah. And I was like, I'm not fucking ice skating unless I'm doing flips. And he was like, this is going to, I fought with my dad for like 30 minutes. I'm like, I'm not, I refuse to learn the basics. And I just said, I'm a champion. I'm going to the Olympics. That was so me. And then I ended up not doing it because I was like, I'm not playing this game. It's interesting that you can probably see who your kids are going to become if you really just like take a minute. And in that moment, he probably was like, this girl's fucking crazy. But if you do that with the right thing, like me being like, oh, I'm just going to do stand up in front of 500 people. Yeah. That's mental illness. That's delusion. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. And I found my nut and then you go. So guys, be delusional if you forgot. That's so funny. You say that because my parents were like looking through old pictures the other day. They were like cleaning. I think they were like cleaning out our basement or something. I don't know. That's the best that let it make my day. I love a clean out photo session. And I like died for baby dolls. Like I was a mother. Like I didn't play with anything else, but a baby. You were working three jobs to feed these children. Like Barbies get out of my face. Like any figurines. I was like, you're stupid. Like Legos are dumb. Like I was a mother. Actually terrified of babies now, but I digress. Catch me in my play kitchen, whipping up a meal. Like everything then I thought I wanted the water's boiling. But this is how I was the same. My mom used to say that if my dad came into my playroom and if like I was holding my baby dolls, if he kissed my because my mom would say that like I used to be that she'd be like, okay, kiss your baby. Like that's your baby. And I would like kiss my baby. And then if my dad kissed my baby, I would look at my dad and be like, why would you? I would get so mad. I'd be like, I'm your baby. This is you don't know this doll. And that is you in a relationship. I'm like, why would you text her? You don't know. Look at that girl. Across the street. I'm like, from a young age, you are who you are. Yeah. From a young age, I knew I wanted to beat men. I knew that they were up to no good. Speaking of beating men, this is why I'm crazy. I remember from a young age, my dad like always believed in me. It was like so proud of me, which like brought its own issues. But once like some kid was like, said he was fast and my dad goes race her. He would make me race other boys in the school. Like that's and at the time that was just my life. That was my normal. So I'd be like racing another boy and I'd win. And then he'd be like, yeah, my daughter just kicked your boys ass. But that's so funny. Like he had me racing random kids. Yeah. He's like taking bets on this. Like 24, 24 and 24. 24 and 24. I'm with the brother. I don't talk about this because I like to protect him, but my brother is actually like a star. He just didn't want the limelight. But yeah, he was always like the cute one, the charming one. And I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. So this is so Brooklyn, but we were like playing in the yard and like a gap. Model scout. Yeah. Was like looking for cute kids. You know how this is. Yeah, it would have been picked immediately. They see my brother who's like blue eyed, gorgeous, like not too hyper. That's what it was. It was the kids that knew how to shut the fuck up is who got picked. That makes me feel better. My mom is talking to my dad like, oh, Daniel got picked. And I'm like, did I get picked? Yeah. She couldn't in her heart of hearts tell me I didn't get picked. So she lied to me, said I got picked. They let me wait in the line for photos. How sad is that? And then I came up and I was like, what's up guys? And they were like, get your daughter. But that. Okay. But what a good example of like amazing parenting on your mom's part. Like you didn't know. I didn't know what I didn't know. Yeah, you didn't know that you weren't picked because. But she literally had to be like, hey, cast and director, can my ugly daughter just like stand in the line and like she won't know. Yeah. And I was clearly chatty, Cathy talking to everyone, causing disruption. And my brother and my brother, he didn't want the stardom, but everyone wanted him. Yeah. And I was just in the background racing random people. I never knew rejection either. Like when I did that at model, like I my mom never told me if I didn't get something. She'd be like, they canceled it. Like. Yeah, she goes modeling over. Yeah. She'd be like, you get to go to your Girl Scout meeting because they canceled it. And I'd be like, amazing. Like I didn't know. Well, it's good for kids to have adversity, but it's bad for them to just like get their confidence hurt for like a stupid reason. Like an agent liking a blonde better than you. Here's the other thing. This just made me think of it with the Taylor Frankie Paul thing. People are like so going against her and rightfully so because they're like, there was a child in the video. So the adult that leaked the video also has a child with this woman. So him leaking that video, he didn't, doesn't give a fuck what damage is done to that little girl now that that video is out for the rest of her life. And I hope that they can fucking heal. And I hope that the kid can be okay. I think they should air the bachelorette. Yeah. I mean, I don't get why they wouldn't. Well, also when they started this, it was because she went on TikTok and was telling everyone that all her friends are fucking each other's husbands. Like let's just remember where it started. It wasn't her being like, she's always been doing things that are. The first episode of the entire show is her getting arrested. Like for domestic violence. People have showed me like there's been so many physical altercations on reality TV that everyone just kind of was like, that's iconic. Like Ron, Ronnie and Sammy would beat the shit out of each other. There's so many physical altercations that also happened that Vanderpump, there's been, oh yeah, because they're like this can air, but like that happened, you just see people, people's reactions. Yeah. But a woman will get more in trouble for something she said than a man will for something he did. And a woman can say the same thing that a man said and be more in trouble. Are you kidding? A hundred percent verbatim verbatim verbatim. A lot of like nice boyfriends have been coming to my shows lately. That's nice. Like they want to be made fun of. Yeah. They are, they are getting tickets for the girls. They're coming together. Like there's, giglers have been finding good partners. I believe. I mean, gigli squad shows. Remember, like whenever we pick on a guy, we're always like, yeah, we're like, actually this one was born because you're so nice. Yeah. Exactly. Well, anyway, I ordered Hannah's Duncan today. You did. Why'd you get me a juicy peach? Because, because that's your nickname for me. Yeah. Okay. Hannah, literally I saw a juicy peach and I was like, that's Hannah. And then I saw a glam berry and I was like, that's me. That's your aura. That's our auras. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. I'm in Ohio all weekend. So check that and Salt Lake City. So I'll, if any Mormons. Thank you, Duncan, for sponsoring this episode and keeping us hydrated. Bye. This is your business. This is your business. Supercharged with the help of zero accounting software. This is managing cash flow. This is managing your cash flow with the help of zero accounting software. These are your customers paying you. 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