Summary
Host Jon Lovett examines the Trump administration's escalating actions including investigations into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, ICE recruitment failures, and threats toward Greenland and Venezuela, while discussing how political chaos creates a 'Shepard tone' effect of constant escalation without resolution. The episode features guests Robin Thede discussing romantic comedies, and therapists Michael Yuri and Ted McGinley from the show 'Shrinking' offering comedic life advice.
Insights
- Political escalation without consequences creates psychological fatigue—the 'Shepard tone' effect where crises build continuously but never resolve, causing public desensitization
- ICE recruitment shortcuts (AI categorization errors, reduced training from 94 to 47 days) create poorly-trained enforcement agents, undermining the administration's stated goals
- Public backlash against militarized immigration enforcement is shifting opinion—more Americans now favor abolishing ICE than oppose it, despite administration expansion efforts
- Performative relationships and social media performance are increasingly recognized as inauthentic; authenticity and organic sharing are becoming cultural values in dating/relationships
- Long-serving TV actors maintain relevance by transitioning from 'handsome prick' roles to character acting, suggesting career longevity requires identity evolution
Trends
Government accountability through citizen documentation—Minnesota governor urging public to film ICE agents for prosecution databaseDeclining morale in federal law enforcement agencies despite expansion initiativesShift in public opinion toward abolishing immigration enforcement agenciesBacklash against performative relationship content on social media platformsIncreased scrutiny of AI systems used in government hiring and categorizationGrowing awareness of political chaos as psychological tool creating learned helplessnessCareer longevity in entertainment requiring adaptation from youth-based to character-based rolesTherapeutic language and mental health frameworks entering mainstream political discourse
Topics
Federal Reserve Independence and Political InterferenceICE Recruitment and Training StandardsImmigration Enforcement and Public BacklashGreenland Sovereignty and US Territorial ExpansionVenezuela Opposition Leadership and Nobel Peace PrizeAI Systems in Government Hiring PracticesPerformative Relationships and Social Media AuthenticityPolitical Escalation and Public DesensitizationFederal Prosecutor Resignations and DOJ PoliticizationSchool Walkouts and Youth ActivismTariff Policy and Economic ImpactInsurrection Act Threats and Constitutional ConcernsTelevision Acting Career TransitionsTherapy and Mental Health in Political Times
Companies
Federal Reserve
Subject of criminal investigation by US Attorney into whether Chair Jerome Powell misled Congress about headquarters ...
Apple TV+
Platform for 'Shrinking' series featuring Michael Yuri and Ted McGinley, premiering season 3 on January 28th
Amazon
Mentioned as redemption option for Built loyalty program points earned on rent payments
Spotify
Referenced as platform where Lord's music is available during Auckland tour conflict
People
Jerome Powell
Federal Reserve Chair facing criminal investigation into whether he misled Congress about Federal Reserve headquarter...
Donald Trump
President whose administration is conducting investigations into Powell, threatening Greenland acquisition, and expan...
Maria Corina Machado
Venezuelan opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner who met with Trump at White House
Jeanine Pirro
US Attorney launching criminal investigation into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell
Tim Walz
Minnesota governor urging citizens to film ICE agents to create database of alleged atrocities for future prosecution
JD Vance
Vice President who met with Danish and Greenlandic foreign ministers regarding US territorial expansion
Marco Rubio
Secretary of State who met with Danish and Greenlandic foreign ministers regarding US territorial expansion
Kristi Noem
Homeland Security Secretary vowing to send hundreds more ICE agents to Minneapolis amid protests
Harrison Ford
Actor appearing in 'Shrinking' season 3, praised by Ted McGinley for masterful acting and emotional range
Michael J. Fox
Guest actor in 'Shrinking' season 3 managing Parkinson's disease while contributing to show and raising $2 billion fo...
Phyllis Thede
Robin Thede's mother, Iowa State representative 2009-2023 who witnessed political climate shift from hope to hopeless...
Joe Rogan
Podcast host quoted questioning militarized ICE presence and comparing it to Gestapo-style enforcement
Quotes
"It's an auditory illusion. It seems like it's always ascending, but it never actually gets higher. It builds and it builds and it builds, but it builds to nowhere and nothing."
Jon Lovett•Opening segment on Shepard tone metaphor for political escalation
"America is for Americans and that ought to terrify these freaks because Americans aren't for this and that will always mean however they escalate we will rise to meet them."
Jon Lovett•Closing political statement
"I think everyone's confused because everyone online is not who they are in person, whether they want to be or not."
Robin Thede•Discussion on dating and authenticity
"You can't want the attention you're seeking."
Robin Thede•On performative relationships and social media
"You realize that's why he's a movie star. He's the master."
Ted McGinley•On Harrison Ford's acting ability in Shrinking
Full Transcript
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Paying rent is better with built and soon owning a home will be better with built to earn rewards and get something back wherever you live. Join the loyalty program for renters at joinbuilt.com slash love it. That's J-O-I-N-B-I-L-T .com slash love it. Make sure you use our URL so you know we sent you joinbuilt.com slash love it. What's up Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It Live from Dynasty typewriter. We have got a great show for you tonight. Robin Thede is here. We're going to talk about all the greatest rom coms. Ted McGinley and Michael Yurier here. To solve some of my personal problems, do some shrinking right up here. Then we'll wrap up the show with a swirl of second guessing. But first let's get into it. What a week. It is only mid-January. Our invasion of Venezuela is two weeks old. Our invasion of Greenland is two weeks out. And the bleakness of the news somehow feels to be constant and yet always getting worse. It's why politics feels like a shepard tone. Do you know what a shepard tone is? Anybody know what a shepard tone is? This is a shepard tone. That's right. Sheep find that sound utterly irresistible. It's an auditory illusion. It seems like it's always ascending, but it never actually gets higher. It builds and it builds and it builds, but it builds to nowhere and nothing. Like Los Angeles doing road construction or the film one battle after another. The illusion of a shepard tone is created by many overlapping scales, fading in and out of perception. We carean from escalation to escalation as the novelty fades as pushback, combs, nerves as the administration turns to its next enemy. Can we hear it again? It's also a planning a wedding feels like. On Sunday, we learned that US Attorney and Judge Judy's Wario, Janine Piro, launched a criminal investigation into Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. This is serious. A criminal investigation by the US Attorney's Office is the scariest way Janine Piro can come after you other than on the freeway after she's attended a holiday party. The investigation is technically into whether Jerome Powell misled Congress about the renovation of the Federal Reserve's headquarters, but there's no reason to think Powell was lying when he said the Federal Reserve's bidets were two week and you needed ones that could, quote, strip bubblegum off a shag carpet. In a rare video statement released by the Fed, Powell defended his independence. No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve, is above the law. But this unprecedented action should be seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and ongoing pressure. Public service sometimes requires standing firm in the face of threats. It's a dark day in America when even the Federal Reserve Chair has to pivot to video. Come with me, Jerome Powell, to try DC's hottest new Korean taco spot. As I explain now, Erdogan's interference with his country central bank caused the collapse of the Turkish leader up. And then it backfired. According to Axios Treasury Secretary and Bottom who pretends to be a top-scot-besson, reportedly told Trump that this was a mess and it could hurt the markets. And there was an outcry by business leaders, former Fed chairs, and even if you Republican senators, if you can believe it, Democrats also spoke out, but that doesn't matter. And so this is how this particular news cycle wraps up. Trump's Department of Justice crosses a new line and risks economic catastrophe. There's genuine pushback. The markets trust that Trump will back down even as he doubles down publicly. And this escalation doesn't end. It just fades into the background. Meanwhile, in Minnesota, the escalation there continues. Six Federal prosecutors in Minnesota resigned on Tuesday. Rather than comply with the Justice Department's push to investigate not Renee Goods killer, but Renee Goods widow. Good Lord, at least give her time to bury her wife on a golf course for the tax breaks like a decent human being. That one was hard. I know, I'd say okay. But also, for the first time, according to a U-Gov poll, more Americans were in favor of abolishing ice than opposed to it. And sure, abolishing ice sounds good. But we have to think about where all those out-of-work officers would go. There are only so many gun ranges that will let you tape a picture of your ex-wife on the target. The Trump administration is bragging about doubling the number of ice officers through its recruitment campaign. But there are also reports of plummeting morale and growing ranks of recruits hitting the streets without enough screening or training. Explosive reporting about an apparent error in the ice recruitment system that meant some officers got sent into field offices without proper training. Apparently, ice uses this AI tool to categorize new recruits who have worked in law enforcement before. But there was some kind of a glitch, according to our reporting with it, that led to ice temporarily putting recruits with a little to no experience into a more experienced category, meaning they got less training. Welcome to ice. Oops, all Paul Blart's edition. Laura Jadid, a writer for Slate, managed to get offered a job at ice despite having never signed or submitted a background check or a domestic violence affidavit. Turns out, if you tap the action button on the new iPhone, it will toggle focus mode. But if you hold that button down, you do join ice. The Atlantic also reported back in August that the training time for ice recruits had been cut in half to just 47 days. And the officials chose 47 as the number because Trump is the 47th president. Though if Trump had his way, it would be even furodays. Homeland Security Secretary and person who would absolutely wear a showstopping white dress to her own sister's wedding, Kristi Nome, vowed to send hundreds more ice agents to Minneapolis as protests continued across the state. But why would an uproar over ice require more immigration enforcement? It's like a parent who catches their kids smoking. So forces them to smoke a whole pack of cigarettes or when Nome catches her dog begging for table scraps so she makes him eat a bullet. Meanwhile, images of jumpy poorly trained massed agents terrorizing an American city are turning more and more people away from Trump's crackdown. Here's Joe Rogan. You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be US citizens that just don't have their papers on them. Are we really going to be the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to? And sure, the person Joe was asking this question to is a cryptosuologist exposing the truth about Atlantis. But still, it's good stuff. On Wednesday, thousands of children across Minnesota staged a school walk out in protest of ice presence. That's right. For justice said the class president, yes, for justice said a procrastinator baffled by what the subjunctive is in English, let alone Spanish as the clock tick ever closer to fifth period and the withering stare of Professor Agunderson. Got to get out of here for justice. It's a mood. grammar has a mood. Houring reports of ice running amok led Minnesota governor Tim Walls to urge citizens to film ice agents. Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotans, not just to establish a record for posterity, but to bank evidence for future prosecution. Wow, not even Tim Walls willing to pay for journalism. I feel like we're in the sort of bargaining phase of grief about the future because there was a time where we imagined all kinds of things in the future, teleportation, flying cars, a replicator that can make any kind of chicken parmesan you want. You know, and now it's just a future where there are consequences. That is like the big high speed rail. I don't think we're going to get it. A future with consequences where there remains cause and effect. That's all we really want. Cause and effect. Something to dream about. In response to local leaders standing up to the administration, Trump on Thursday threatened to evoke the insurrection act, which would of course only make matters worse. And that is so not like him. But we should have grace. Have any of you tried working from home during a big renovation? Some poor guy. I'm going to come. Anyway, if Trump's goon squad thought Minneapolis was a cold reception, wait till they get to Greenland. On Tuesday, Greenland's prime minister officially told Trump to go fuck himself. Greenland is not want to be owned by the USA. Greenland is not want to be governed by the USA. Greenland will not be part of the USA. So she's interested concluded Don Jr. On Wednesday, Trump's marry and fuck JD Vance and Marco Rubio met with the foreign ministers of Denmark in Greenland. And after the meeting, Denmark's foreign minister was asked by Fox News if Greenlanders would ever vote to join America. Here's what he said. No, not at all. Because I think there's no way that US will pay for Scandinavian welfare system in Greenland, honestly speaking. Got the Maduro asking this guy. So what do you in for? Speaking of Maduro, Venezuela and opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Karina Machado met with Trump at the White House on Thursday and great news. Maria, I am getting word from White House officials that Machado insisted that she give the Nobel medal to the president and he did accept it. This is of course not how Nobel Peace Prize is work. Or as the Nobel committee put it, once a Nobel Prize is announced, it cannot be revoked, shared or transferred to others. The decision is final and stands for all time. It's completely humiliating. It's like having to explain to Trump that if you buy Jean Hackman's Oscar from the estate sale, you do not become the best supporting actor in 1992's unforgiven. How is this real? How is this the actual news? And that's not the only example of escalation this week. The State Department's suspending immigrant visa processing for 75 countries, DOJ rating the homes of a Washington Post reporter. Trump threatening to cut off federal funding to any state that contains a sanctuary city. And Trump saying this about whole milk. And it's whole with the W for those of you that have a problem. I mean, now I have a problem. What? What the fuck is he talking about? But at the same time, a new AP poll found that more than half of Americans believe the country and the economy are worse off since Donald Trump took office. And majority's believe he has gone too far in imposing tariffs and targeting illegal immigration. People are angry that Trump is focused on ballrooms and Danish territories. This is approval rating is now over 60%. And those signs are all around us too. Those sounds are rising too. Open the door. That's terrible. It's terrible. What are they pulling around? Look at that. Look at let everybody see this. This is nuts. This is fucking yeah. And you're right in the middle of this shit. I got to work in the goddamn morning just like everybody else. I'm just here trying to stand up for community, dude. We're all human beings here. I don't give a shit who you are where you came from. What color you are. It doesn't fucking matter. This is wrong. During Trump's visit to a Ford plan in Michigan this week an auto worker set his peace. It can be hard to hear but the guy calls Trump a pedophile protector and then Trump says fuck you and flips him the bird. It's a tiny little bird. Really actually like shocking. Ford suspended the work or TJ Sepala but as of this recording over $800,000 has been raised for him on GoFundMe. Yeah. You know the Trump administration on its various right wing social media accounts likes to say America is for Americans and I know how they mean it but I'm starting to hear it differently. America is for Americans and that ought to terrify these freaks because Americans aren't for this and that will always mean however they escalate we will rise to meet them. America is for Americans like these fine souls in Minneapolis. Our voices are rising too and that's the shepard tone I'm really loving right now. 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Please put your hands together for Robin Thede. Hi. Hi, welcome. Nice to see you. Come on in. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. So you're in a new romcom called relationship goals. Oh, getting right to it. Yes. What do you think the main hurdles people are running up against romantically? Okay. Number one, men. Number two. Sorry. Straight men. No, I don't know. I have, you know what? It's so crazy. Like I think everyone, I know that wasn't a serious question, but I'm going to give you a serious answer. I think everyone's confused because everyone online is not who they are in person, whether they want to be or not. You know, we're all kind of putting our best foot forward or whatever hiding our psychosis a bit. Right. Isn't that what dating is meant to uncover? That's why we do it. Yeah, but people are mysterious and they can lie. I don't know. They do lie. But probably always have. That's true. That's true. That's true. About who we think we are. I think sometimes when you go on a date, you tell a story about who you think you are. And it's actually you think there's parts that are true. Yeah. And the parts you're trying to kind of exaggerate. Yeah. But even the parts you think are true are a story you're telling yourself. That's true. And over time, you figure out what's the real story of this person, according to you, which is also not true because it's through your lens, which is also based on your own self conception. Yep. And that's also false. There's always three sides to a story, right? You are as mine in the truth. That's right. Yeah. That's what I learned in therapy. Why are you so disappointed in my therapy? No, I think therapy is great. Yeah. I'm just so busy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I got it. And I don't need it anymore. I need it for a while. It does feel like in these times though, it's like therapy is like just a baseline for trying to just keep it together. I don't know. I don't know. Is anyone like, I don't know how people are raw-docking it without some sort of conversation. Doesn't have to be with a licensed person, but at least a friend who listens or something. Well, we have our staff meetings on Mondays. Okay. Okay. There you go. And that's really usually my case. That's your time. It's kind of working on stuff. That's probably an HR problem. Couldn't, yeah, probably. Now, this fall, a vogue sparked a devastating conversation with an essay that said, is having a boyfriend embarrassing. Oh, my God. I'd love to. Yeah. And would you say that's the message of the movie that that relationships are great, but you got to just hang out with Kelly Rowland. No. And you know, and you know what's funny about that article? I love the lady that wrote it. She's now writing a book in Bali. I've like obsessed with her Instagram. Great place to write a book. Yeah. Yeah. When I go to Bali, I'll be writing a book. Why not? It's funny because my girlfriends that I were talking about this article, it was, it was all of our group chats were blowing up when this came out. And we kind of came to the conclusion that like public boyfriends are embarrassing. So like performing your relationship. Yeah. Performative relationships are embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah. And it, but really, so basically you're saying like if you're in a relationship and you're, it seems almost like, why are you posting so much about? Yeah. These publicly kind of performative relationships where it's like, oh, it's our Instagram account. And everything we do is about us. And I don't know, even the family ones are a little cringey to me because I'm like, these kids didn't ask to do this. I worry about that. I worry about it too. I really do. I worry about what it does to their brains. So yeah, I just think performative, anything that's so performative, I'm not saying you can't post your boyfriend, you can post your boyfriend. But like anything that feels overly performative is just very embarrassing. But it does, I know what you mean, but then it does raise the question, what isn't performative and what isn't important. And you're, you know, what is, I think authenticity is the bar, right? If it feels like, oh, you guys just had a fun hike and you posted about it fine. But if you're like, look at us, everything's perfect. Everything's aesthetically pleasing. And like this dinner is perfectly edited the way I don't know if it feels too right. It needs to come from an organic place of pride. And then not effort it, right? Like an organic need to share because you're excited. But without enough self-reflection to want the attention. That's right. You can't want the attention you're seeking. I know. I don't know. It's why I literally just, I don't know. I avoided that altogether. I don't post any relationship stuff. I remember somebody said this. Also, all my boyfriends would find out about each other and that would be very embarrassing. How many, how many boyfriends do you have? About 12. 12? Wow. That's a lot of stuff. That's 12 different. That's so cool. That's so cool. You guys try so many fun restaurants. So many restaurants. Wait, your mom, Phyllis Theddy was an Iowa State representative from 2009 to 2023. Yeah. Which extends from Obama one to Trump two. Yes. Yes. Quite a ride. She's, yeah, seven terms. And in the house, they have to run every other year. So is every other year is an election year, which is insane. And she still managed to get work done, which was great. What did she learn about politics? What changed about what she thought being a politician was? Yeah. It turned out to actually be. Well, I remember being with her in 2008 when she got elected for the 2009 term and Obama won the same night and it was just such an incredibly high, high, you know. And then I remember being with her on the last election night when she lost her seat. And there was a massive red wave in Iowa and you know, a state had gone from blue to purple to red in that in those 14 years. And it was, it was just so different. I think the, the whole political climate on both sides of the aisle was very, I don't know, I don't know, frustrating isn't the word, but kind of hopeless, right? I mean, obviously, Obama's especially first term was all about hope and change and all of those things. And we still felt that even as he was leaving. And I think there was just an absence of that. There was just no kind of, I don't know, it felt very arid. I think when she left, if that makes sense. Yeah, there was a void of, I feel like, when Obama wins in 2008 and then 12, it was part of a kind of feeling of, oh, we're like, we're heading into the future. Yes. And that he represented a change that was happening. And in hindsight, actually, his singular talents were overcoming a backlash. In part, stirred by the fact that he was back, but also just like creating a backlash that we were to see the likes of. I mean, you know, it's, it's wild, it's wild. And I think that that regression or, or that shift to whatever we're in now was, was so evident. And I think she was kind of glad to retire when she did. But she definitely worked hard the whole time and never gave up and always tried to work across the aisle. But you know, it's, it's, so they have to put up a picture of the current president. And they have to say the pledge of allegiance to it. And did you guys know this? And so, we just do a pledge of the flag, I would hope. Well, I guess the flags there too. Yeah. But when they put the Trump picture up, it was such a sad day. It was just so weird. It didn't, it's the whole thing just felt very weird. I remember we were at a live show. And for Paz de America, and there was a person in the audience that asked a question. And it was something like, after he's gone, like, can we take down all the portraits? And like, can we, and like, can we kind of like erase it? No, no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Has gone the national portrait gallery. Has to, yeah, we're going to, no, it's forever. Yeah, we're going to remember this. This door locked behind us, babe. It locked and burned. And wait, and speaking of, unreality and the sense that we're living in what seems like an impossible and almost in surreal situation, you're producing an off-road way play about Bigfoot with Amber Ruffin. Yes. Bigfoot. Remember Harry and the Henderson? Yes, I remember Harry and the Henderson. I remember Alph, there were two different shows. Oh my God. I was a massive Alphan. But Alph was an alien. He was an alien. Yeah, right. Small, furry. And Harry, big. Yeah, big, much more sad-watching. Yeah. What's the difference between Bigfoot, sad-watching Yeti? I'm so glad you asked that. So Yeti is more of a polar or a Himalayan. Well sure, but he's mountainous. It's cold. It's white. Cold and white. Yes. Yeti. And sad-watching Bigfoot are often confused, but a sad-watch actually has longer hair and a much more of a, I have no idea what the difference between sad-watches. Right. So obviously I've done no research, but I do know enough to tell you that Amber Ruffin has written one of the funniest musicals. And it's like a 90s rock musical. Like it's so freaking funny. It's like spam a lot, book of Mormon, like very farcical and silly, but with a big heart. And Gray Henson, who played Alph on Broadway, is playing Bigfoot. And it's just the funny. It went to like Edinburgh and stuff over the past couple of years, so these festivals and won everything. And now it's going to be Alph on Broadway. And you were telling me backstage or it's pretty graphic, sex scene in it. Well, a few. Yeah. So Robin, in honor of your, of relationship goals, in which you are a friend, a friend to the romcom kind of couple, will they, will they and won't they? Yes. It's time for a segment we're calling, oh, this is my emotional support person. Wait a minute, I grabbed the heck. That's good. I like this. So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to give you two romcom besties and you pick your favorite of the two. Oh, great. Okay. And then we'll go up against the next one and so on. Keep in mind, you do not know which best friend is coming next. Are you ready? I'm ready. All right. First up, we have Aquafina as Rachel's College roommate in Crazy Rich Asians. And we have Paula Patton as Morgan in the 2010 Queen Latifa common romcom just right. Oh. Now what am I judging this on? Who you just you're picking better friend? Who do you want? Who do you, you can just choose? Well, Aquafina was a best. Her character was a mess in that movie. So I guess I'm going to have to go with Paula Patton. Great. All right. Next up. All right. We have, now we have Paula Patton as Morgan versus our Sydney Hall Hall as semi in coming to America. Our Sydney Hall Hall the hand of town. My favorite movie of all time. Yeah. When he gets the hot. I what was it about that hot tub? Oh my god. So funny. How about when he plays the woman on the speed dating that I mean, like all of them playing multiple roles, but our studio does not get enough credit for how funny he is in the so good. I love that apart. Yeah, it's a rental too. They get the hot tub in the yes. Yes. And then the landlord takes it over when he has to. Yeah. So good. All right. Now we have semi versus Monica Calhoun as Quincy and Monica's mutual friend Kerry in love and basketball. Oh. Okay. Love and basketball is a classic. I still got to go with semi because he rode for his friend doing the craziest things and really, you know, and what really rode for himself because he wanted to get all the perks of being the friend of the prince. But yeah, I'm still going to go with semi. I support that. Next up semi versus Dave Chappelle as Joe's bookstore manager Kevin and you've got ma. I thought you were going to say Dave Chappelle and Robin Hood men and tights. And then I was going to or even half baked and I was going to give you both of those, but I'm going to stick with semi. Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's right. I Tom Hanks is the villain in that film. By the way, I have a theory that Tom Hanks is the villain in every film. Oh, interesting. Even Captain Phillips. I got it. Forest Gump. Think about it. He did Lieutenant Dan wrong. You know what I learned there? If anyone says something to you with a kind of a thar is Tate of yeah, you'll get that that cues them. Yeah, I'm worried about what just happened. I'm worried about that. It's the Mavini thing. All right. Now we have semi versus Carrie Fisher as Sally's desperate Bestie Marie in when Harry met Sally. Oh. But Carrie Fisher has so many other good roles I could pick her for. What is she? She ever been another rom com bestie? Well, Star Wars is a rom com. Right, but but she's falling in love with her brother. That's true. That's true. That's the beauty. Oh, no, it's Harry's before. I know that. I remember. I still a semi. It's my favorite movie. It's your favorite movie. Yeah. I'll change at some point. If you pick one, there is one person that could beat him. Okay. We'll see we got there. Next up, it's it's Rupert Everett as George in my best friend's wedding. You know what? I'm gonna have to go with Rupert Everett. He was a great friend in that movie and she was a mess and she had no business being the lead of that movie. I think she and I love Julia Roberts adore her. But I she was wrong in every way in that movie. Yeah, but he was a great friend. He was great that movie is very much it's funny because it's like from the perspective. It's obviously so from her perspective. Yeah. But it's also kind of from the perspective of like it's as if the movie isn't aware of what real relations are like like like right and at some point somebody goes no, no, they're going to root for her to ruin their best friends. I don't know. I but Rupert Everett is amazing in that movie. He's amazing. It's sort of this like quality of rom coms even the great ones which is that they treat the possibility of ending up together as like everything has to be just right. Yeah. Like everything is there really a movie called just right? Yeah. I've been like like the little mermaid like they're if they're if they're ever going to kiss everything has to be just right. I know. I know. When people want to kiss they kiss. They're girls. And I'm not selling my voice just to kiss a man with legs. Okay. And that's so important. All I need your voice. She was like, what? Also great. She needs you know what? Her best friends really let her down. Flown. You know why? Because you got to get in the crowd. They just don't they're not they're just not they're betas. Yeah. Yes. Yes. They're betas. They do not have enough life experience. It's unbelievable. All right. Now we have Rupert Everett as George. Yes. Versus Queen Latifa as Sydney's supportive cousin Francine in Brown sugar. No, Rupert Everett. And I love Dana. I love Queen Latifa. Sorry. Uh, no, I still got to go with Rupert Everett. And I love Brown Sugar. Who do you think is the best then? Who would have beaten? Is there anyone that could beat? Yes. Philip C. More Hoffman and along Kim Polly. That's so interesting. Yeah. Wow. He was so funny and so useless as a friend that he actually drove bad decisions that led to good decisions. And so I just I just also love him and miss him. Yeah. He was very good. He was also great in Mission Impossible 3. He was fantastic in Mission Impossible 3. So good. He could be that horrible child actor turned whatever he was in along Kim Polly versus Mission Impossible is like the range. And Boogie Knights and Boogie Knights and didn't he play some who was the artist he played not Andy Warhol but some anyway he's an icon. Who was it? Capote. Thank you. Truman Capote. Yeah. It was amazing. Well, the winner is Rupert Everett as George. Relative goals on Amazon Prime on February 4th up next. They're from shrinking but my excitement is growing. All right. We'll be right back. Thank you, Robert. We're all going to be back at the end of the show. Thank you. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by stamps.com. It's staggering. 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So I think that he wouldn't make it as a therapist. Well, that's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. One of the cool things about the show is I think though that sometimes the people who aren't therapists are sort of filling a void of therapy for the therapists. Like whenever we get the script, I always look at the scenes and I think am I on the couch or am I with the pad? Like which role am I playing in this particular scene? Yeah, that's well said because you that's very true. Like often sort of off the ice, we become the therapist for the therapist. And I keep saying, well, you guys seem more crazy than all of us. Well, I think that's a great way into how we're going to be doing this segment because as I did mentioned earlier, I haven't been to therapy in a bad a year and a half because I am so busy. So tonight, I'm going to ask you about your incredible careers and ask you some of the questions I've been saving up before a therapist in a segment in a segment we're calling. But Michael Yuri and Ted McGinley, I am Pogliacci. That killed me. All right. Michael, the shrinking cast had an addition. And I understand that this involved you working with sort of a new member of the cast. Oh, yes. Okay. And this was a small time for tiny actor. The cast. How'd that go? What a setup. Yeah, I do a bad job. No, it's great. Hey, so there was a fucking baby this season. And what was that like? Spoiler, my character has a baby, which is. Am I not supposed to know that? No, no, no, no. Can you spoil a show about therapy? No. They kind of figure it out. No, not all my character has a baby this season. And I, and so, and there was a really funny moment in this previous season where we were sort of toying with the idea of a baby. Like they brought a baby on set and was like, well, this guy be able to have a baby. I'm my character's, you know, not exactly. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who should be a father or should have a baby. And that's kind of like my arc. Great. It's a great arc. And I love playing it. And at one point, we were trying to work with this baby in season two. And it was crying a lot because that happens. That's what babies do. And one of the crew guys, one of the crew guys was like, please don't let them give you a baby next season. Well, they say, you know, babies and animals can be tough. Okay. But I want to sit, I want to push back on that a little bit, John. It's okay. You can't think it's children and animals. I say babies are great to act with. Right. Because they don't have any say. That's right. That's right. They're basically just a living prop. And you always look like an angel holding a baby. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. It's going to do something cute and then be like a little shit and make you look bad or a dog is trained. You know, working with animals is weird because they're not like regular animals. They're trained. And so they're looking at their, you know, their handler off camera. And it's like not it's not fun at all. It's really hard to work with animals and the trainer because the trainer, if you're having a scene, we have a thing called an eye line where you don't want anybody in your eye line while we're working opposite each other because I want to focus on you. But when you're working with an animal, the trainers back, they're going, he's trying to get down. And you get, he's like, oh, up. Or the dog. I don't know who we're talking to. Well, they drive you nuts because now you were bit in the crotch by a dog. Yes. On happy days. Yeah, you want to talk about you want to do a shrinking. So on happy days, and this is where I learned like you have to really, you really have to trust the actor holding the animal. So the worst thing you do is give an actor almost anything, but you give him a deadly animal. And this guy who was it who was holding the animal? So, was it the ponds? No, no, no, he was a guest star. He's a very big, strong guy and he's holding this huge dog that was supposed to come after me. And he had a, he had a chain on him. The guy's holding like this. And as you start acting, everybody sort of relaxes and it goes and also in that dog comes out. He's supposed to do this. And he comes after me and the guy's supposed to hold him. He doesn't grab the dog and the grab, he grabs my crotch right here. Thank God I was going the other way. And, uh, otherwise it would have been the other circumcision. It was brutal. Well, literally it scared me to death. I would be living on an island in Bimini right now doing pretty well with my own jet, but a little shorter. Now, it, there's some, there's no video proof that we could find, but you were also perhaps in the love boat within a rangatang. Yes. Yeah. So, I've worked, I've worked crazy. We'll be on set and we'll be talking about something and he'd be like, yeah, that's when I dance with the Andrew sisters on the love. That's like, wait, go back, what? Yeah, I work with George, I could pour. Oh, sure. Yeah. The craziest story. My problem is that I don't remember them until you started talking about them like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. But, yeah, I'm fair with, I've worked with the, I've worked with a bear, I've worked with a wolf, I've worked with a rangatang and they're, they're like, don't look them in the eyes. Well, how am I going to work with them? Well, that's the way to talk about Harrison Ford. All right. Now, I do have it there, but here's my first therapy question. I feel like I can't envision the future. Like, I can make plans, but then someone says, are you looking forward to that? I said, I don't know how to do that. What does that, you think? So, like, I plan for the future. And then they're like, are you looking forward to that trip? And it's like, well, I know we're going to do fun things, but I have no image of it in my mind. I don't think about it that way. So, when you go to sleep at night, you don't close your eyes and you don't imagine where you're going to go. No, well, let's work on that. I think that's the beginning. I work on it. At night time, you close your eyes, you picture where you're going to go, how you're going to be in that setting, and you go there. I'm going to try that. It's for nothing, Michael Geri. I'm a basket case. I can't help you. Now, you're both veteran TV actors, and is it a pain type to work with kind of snooty film actors like Harrison Ford? No, he's awesome. He is. He's really cool. I like to say that Michael Geri is a masterclass in acting. He truly is so gifted and to just get to stand next to him as a miracle. Harrison, you work with Harrison. I had a real problem with Harrison because he kept saying, I mean, I grew up loving everything he's ever done, love all his movies. And yet, you have to work opposite him. I didn't have scenes directly with him once in the first season I did, but have had more sense. And I couldn't get past the fact that that's Harrison Ford. It was so hard for me. And finally, off camera, he puts you at ease so much. And he's really like, he's the youngest guy in the stages. He's a bad behavior 16 year old. And so it's really funny. He's an amazing force. But when you work with him, you realize now I see why this guy is who he is. He's a master. Oh, we had a scene. Jason and I had a scene with him. We haven't seen this season where we're doing something pretty crazy in the front seat of a car and he's in the back seat. And we found out about it. A couple of weeks before it was my favorite scene of the whole year. Is it? Yeah, love it. It's a really cool scene. And Jason and I got so excited about it. We were told a couple of weeks early, this is coming down the pike, just letting you know. And we were so excited. And we didn't tell Harrison what we were going to do. And in the script, it didn't explain what was going to happen. And it's a two shot here. And then Harrison right here in the middle. So you're watching him. Where these guys go. And and and Jason and I are going for it. We are shooting this in we're like in a car in Pasadena, we're driving around and we are going for it. We are like having the best time. It's so fun. It's so funny. And they sent us the daily's which they don't usually do. But this was such a special shot that they sent us the daily's and you can't take your eyes off Harrison. Jason and I are in the front seat like acting our pants off. And he's back there just being a human being. And he's incredibly. I was like, he's incredible. He goes through every human emotion with just his face. No words at all. He's sad. He's giddy. He's afraid. He does like everything back there. And you realize that's why he's a movie star. He's the master. He's the master. He really is. He really is. I know what is that that thing that draws your attention. That movie star, charisma. That way his face does stuff. You're like, I want to watch that face. Yeah. It's like, I think what it's partially like I know that he's thinking, but I don't know what he's thinking. Yes. And I want to know. That's right. You can't always tell what's going on in there. And it's so compelling that you just keep going in for more. And you never know what he's going to do. I mean, he's a lot of fun to be around. Now it's time for another therapy question. Close your eyes. I know on some level that a less ambitious version of me would be happier. But I will not do the work to become that less ambitious version of me because I am currently that ambitious version of me. And this version of me doesn't want to surrender control to that happier me because it might stop me from becoming some undefined, most successful version of me, which is what the current me wants for my future. Even if that happier me, if allowed to exist, we'll know that this current desire was misplaced and would be glad I didn't pursue it. Yeah. To have you want to take that? Yeah. I would. Well, that's an easy one. Uh, what I like best about that is you didn't want to do the work to become less ambitious. That's right. I don't. I don't. Like some soft little, faggy bitch. I want to work. What am I going to do? Like, you know, have a hobby? What could that be? Will it get me any attention? What are your hobbies? I would like to know. I mostly do this. What you're doing now? I do like to cook. I'm learning to cook. It's not a hobby. That's a need. You have to cook. You have to eat. And your specialty, your area of expertise? Yeah. Like mostly like food and stuff. Like kinds of food. Okay. Okay. Okay. Michael, I want to ask you about your show, a, a, a younger, uh, which was you were on younger. And it started a sudden foster and Hillary Duff. And in season five, Hillary Duff's character dates a fake John Favreau, who's the, Michael, who's on Pada, say, of America named Jake Devorow, who's part of an obviously fake Pada, say, of America podcast. There is also a Jewish man named Levitt. And then, and then, um, uh, we have the picture. So here's Jake Devorow. Very handsome. Now here's Levitt. And my, and then that's my third co-host, Tommy, played by a woman named Charlotte. What was that about? Michael, you want to handle this one? Yeah. Um, well, I think that they were trying to, uh, show that, uh, I don't fucking know. I wasn't in that episode. I was a recurring guest star. I don't know. I think, I think this is, I think this is something that you should talk to your therapist about. This is another example of a reason why you need to get back in a lot of time. This bothers you. And also, by the way, this is an adorable person. I look good. Now I'm good. Tommy really got Tommy. Tommy got a race. That's Tommy Arasher. Oh, I'm shrinking. Yeah. Uh, now you've been a, you've, you've acted across from Candace Bergen, Jeff Daniels, and Harrison Ford. Who is the worst of the three actors? Me. Uh, by far, uh, that is, imagine like these are all rock stars. And the fact that you get to work opposite them is, it's pretty special. It's not lost to me. And by far, if you're going to pick the worst, you're looking at them. But see then, but you're one of the legends that people must feel that way when you're standing across from them. Then, then, what does it feel like to be that for people? They're like, Oh my god, it's head McGinley. I've never experienced that. I really wanted, but I, I haven't experienced it. I was so excited to meet you. Oh, that's so not true. Uh, but you know, you, you work on this set. The people that come in you, Michael J. Fox this year came is coming in. Michael J. Fox is, I've known him when I was happy day, on happy days of Paramount. I would see him on the lot. We've circled each other for years. He, and he's such a talent comedically. And you realize there are many, many movies now that I've realized would never have been made without him saying, I will do it. I went to his Parkinson's benefit. They've raised $2 billion in 20 or 25 years. If I was afflicted with that, I would be sitting in a dark closet crying all day and no one would benefit. Someone like Michael is so courageous and so generous and, and the fact that what he's done for mankind is so beautiful. And that Harrison plays side by side with someone who deals with it on a daily basis and a moment's mom basis. It is a very special part of the show this year. And it's, it's gut wrenching to watch. It was really magical having him around. Yeah. And I just want to say that I think that when you get Parkinson's, you're going to do great stuff with it. I, I, you know what? Thank you. Sorry. I mean, what else can I say? Thank you. It's not contagious. It's not like, it's, it's like, right. It's, and that's so important. And that's part of the awareness. Well, I've, that's important to remember. I, I've, I didn't know if that was okay and I've done it. And it's done. It's okay. I wash my hands all the time. So, hey, did you realize when you were unmarried with children that we were all going to end up living in Al Bundy's America? Kind of had an idea. Yeah. It was a great place to be that, that show was fun. We had a lot of, we had, it was a unique experience because they were sort of the anti-everything. And I was having this conversation today that the Bundy's were sick in that it was us against them. We are the opposite in that it is the world. We are just living in this dark world, the soup that we all live in all the time, but we're there for each other. The Bundy's are kind of like that, but it's a very small group. So, it was a weird analogy that talking to people about it. I think that Al Bundy, I love that Ed O'Neil got to move on to modern family because I think he didn't want to die as Al Bundy. As great as it was, you saw him move on. He's a brilliant actor. Yeah. That show, it's funny because my other children, I was talking with Halle who's our head writer and we both had the same experience, which is it was the one show we were not allowed to watch. There was something about it that, there was something about it really, really freaked the squares. Yeah. You know what, you know, it's funny, my parents were so excited when I got on Happy Days. And then I went to the Bundy's married with children. They freaked out like, what is this? And then when I had kids, we wouldn't let them watch the show. And by the time they were old enough to watch the show, you know, it was so tame by then they could care about it. I was actually going to want to go back and watch it. Yeah, family guy. Yeah, compared to what was like, marry the children with seen is so like edgy and dangerous for kids. Yes. I don't think my kids have ever seen it, to be honest with you. Wow. In fact, I don't think they've ever seen anything I've done. And neither is my wife. She just learned my name today. But that they've watched shrinking. And and that's pretty cool. You know, Michael, they like Michael. Yeah, everybody likes Michael. I saw you know, Mary, you were fantastic. So cool. You were so great in Oh, Mary. I saw him and Richard the second and he was phenomenal. Yeah, but not as funny. You know what? He was pretty funny. Yeah, he was that's what he found in this. You found you found the comedy in Richard the second. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. We got some laps. It was cool. But it wasn't as funny as Oh, Mary. Oh, Mary is the most perfect play. It's so brilliant. It's so smart. It's so funny. And it was there. There are these wonderful surprises that happen during the show. And the way the audience would react to the surprise, I would get like hard as a rock. It was so fucking cool to like lay a surprise on 900 people who have no idea what's coming or if they've seen it before, they're so ready for it. That play is like drugs. It was it was so exciting. It was really like riveting. It was just a riveting experience. And how amazing was Jinx Monsoon. Jinx Monsoon was my Mary. She's brilliant. I've worked with Sutton Foster and Paddy LaPone and Mercedes Rool. I've been on stage with like some giants. And Jinx is like that. Working with Jinx is like working with a stage Titan. It was right here. It was the right. Just saying it's sitting right here. Go on. Yeah. You'd be really good in the play. You should do I don't have the courage. No, you'd be great on stage. I don't have the courage. But you're constantly putting yourself down and this is not your session. It's mine. But it's something I want to deal with later. I want us to focus on that in your session. Yeah. I don't know. It's been a long career. It's been brutal. Come on. You've been in it the whole time. This business has changed around you 15 times and you're still fucking crushing it. What are you talking about? I'm like a cockroach. You can't get rid of me. I am a survivor for sure. I'm a fighter. And I'm still here. I'm very proud of that. You should see the crew loves Ted more than any of us. Even like Harrison. When Ted walks on the set, the crew lifts off the ground six inches. He's the Pied Piper. Everyone loves him so much. You're like that. That's very sweet. That means a lot to me because I do the crew has become on our set. They are one of the characters. We actually use the crew for the reaction constantly. And we can trust them. They have her back. And so I always see myself as one of the crew members. And I will be probably after. It's a funny. It's a kind of a truism, which is that especially early, like I think of some of the iconic roles you had earlier on. You were kind of a world-class handsome prick. I should say yes. But it's funny. Yeah, you're like the poster child for prick. I love being the prick. Can you not say I am handsome? You don't do that. You don't acknowledge it. You're not very handsome. Come on. One time I might have been all right, but I'm growing into my character self, which I enjoy. You're character self. Handsome actor to character actor. That's the transition you're in the middle of. Well, it's interesting because that really comes to my next therapy question, which is on some level. I don't believe my personality works in an older body. And right now, my only plan is to pretend not to notice that I am aging. Do you think there are other approaches? I just don't think this energy works in a kind of whizzened form. I would say I would say you're not seeing yourself in a real way. It works for you. Oh, wow. That part is perfect. Once again, get better and better. I'm trying to get a word in. It's impossible. All right. All right. Let's just talk. Sorry. Sorry, Michael. Here it goes. You're going to do to fix me. I want you to close your eyes and imagine yourself as a shriveled old whizzened comedian. Quote unquote, comedian. No. I'm just see. Is it fun? Is it still cute? And, and is it working? And I think the answer's going to be yes. I think yes. Okay. That felt good. Thank you for helping. Thank you for helping. Wow. You are broken. Yeah. All right. We have to leave it there for now. This is so much fun. I keep talking guys. So we got to get in the next thing. Uh, Michael and Ted are in season three of shrinking. It's on Apple TV plus premiering on January 28th. We will be right back. Robyn's going to join us. We're right back. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love it or Leave it coming up. Love or leave it is brought to you by Willie's remedy. 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Everybody go to Kruger.com slash events. Also to my friends in New Zealand, we did not know when we booked the show that it was the one night Lord was also playing in Auckland. Oh, you're screwed. You're screwed. And so listen, here's the thing. Whatever she's going to sing that night, it's on Spotify. No. I say you the show from the parking lot. Yeah. Just take advantage of it. Yeah, tell David the Lord God. It reminds me of that old joke that ABC's new hit show is just showing sign felt on a smaller screen. That's what we'll do. Come to the Ponce America show. We'll put Lord up there. In New Auckland. But please come see us if you're in, if you're in the area. If you think Lord, please come see us. All right. We want to end the show tonight with something a little bit different. Something we're calling second thoughts. I've said dozens of things. I'm always so busy in these. Yeah. So interesting. I've said dozens if not hundreds of things tonight. Many of them I already regret. And so it's time for us all to offer second thoughts right now. So throughout the show, the love of a leave a team has been keeping tabs on things they wish I hadn't said. And so we now have a list of those second thoughts. Michael, do you have any second thoughts about tonight? I cannot believe that you compared Alph to Henry and then. Right. Right. Very different. It is a little alien. And Harry and the Henderson is a giant. He is a giant big foot. And I was I was offended as a child. I grew up on both of those. I love both of those. And there there's nothing. There's nothing. It would be like it's like apples and oranges on us. And I think we're like a little little little kind of mean apple. Big nice apple. I agree. Are you calling Alph mean? Yeah. How dare you? Well, I mean, what are you a cat? Yeah. I get it. What are you a fucking cat? See, Alph needed cats. Eighth them. He ate them. In a sense, you like them. Yeah. They were the cats hated him. I can't believe you watched Alph. I loved it. I never watched it. Well, I'm a puppeteer. So anything with puppets. By the way, so it's Jason Siegel. Yes. He loves puppets. Yep. So I didn't why didn't watch it just because it was a puppet. Yeah, that's fair. Did you watch dinosaur? Not high brow enough for 10 megabytes. Never, never, never. I was busy on the set up. I'll be watching LA law. Thank you. I love it when Corbin Burns in Poland. And it's convertible Porsche. Wow, you're gonna get hooked. You're gonna go buy the DVD box. I'm gonna get a hug. The DVD. As soon as you can find a DVD player. So I have to where we're palisades, burn victims. So they're going through all of our, our house is still there, but it's a shell. But they're going through all of our electronics. Yeah. And they're going to give you a value of your electronics. And I have 50,000 of the DVD machines and all that. They give me $200 for like, oh my god. Literally for 15 machines. Hey, my TV's a little bit broke. Why did I drive my TV over to your wreck and throw it in there? Yeah. Well, because I went to the heart, just the insurance company. We got these massive giant dumpsters in front of our house. And people keep driving by and saying, well, what's in there? Is it pretty much everything we love? You know, they, I'm really sorry, your house burned down. Our house is standing. But the inside, they have to get rid of all that stuff. Because it all got ruined. Anything soft goes. Because the doors blew open, right? Our doors blew open or somebody came through. And front and back. Or so, but we're the lucky ones. Like everybody we know has lost pretty much everything. And I have never almost never had a better year than we had last year. So there are so many blessings, you know, mixed in with this complete chaos. But we, it is interesting. You kind of learn what you, when you have to make that choice, my poor wife had to make the choice. What are you going to take? And the second day, Billy Bush, I snuck in in a press car with Billy Bush. And I went to our house and the fire was all around us. And so I said, well, what should I get? And I had my giant, all the photos of my career in the book. You know, I had to like scrapbook of all these. And I thought, well, if I get that, I have to get my wives. And I don't know if we have room in the car. So I had to, I had to choose to leave my stuff there. And I, and, and the only thing you could take is your kid stuff. Yeah. But, but it is, these are things that you, in those moments, the chaos that goes through your mind is crazy. One other thing I regret from this show is that I did make light of the fire thing a few minutes ago. And then it turned into a really kind of moving thing about what you say that I shouldn't have done that probably because you see a big, big, important moment, you know, it's like, look at you acknowledging that. But I don't think that's right. And I also don't think you should regret something that works out well. I thought that worked out really well. That's what you told me to say, right? That's right. Perfect. Absolutely perfect. That was it. Oh, Robin. It says here that when you came out, I didn't do any kind of small talk with you. I jumped right into, so you're in a new movie, which seems like something I should have worked out if we should have had more of a human moment. No, but we met each other before. This isn't, I've done this podcast. I've known you for a while. We don't need that. I thought the transition was a little awkward. I thought I was searched. I was like, whoa, is that how's this just going to go? Is he going to do that one? I didn't go now. Yeah, and I did comment on it at the time. I did say, wow, jump it right in. So you know what, I take it back. I hate you. I'm trying to learn from the feedback. Hey, Michael, do you think it was a mistake when I called myself a faggy little bitch? No, I have internalized something. I should work out. No, I like that. I like owning that word. I think that's our word. We're going to take it back and we're going to use that word. Bitch, I mean, I'm using the other word. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Um, I have one. Oh, what? Yes. You played that God awful sound too much. Oh, that's a shepherd tongue. I didn't like it. It's like a dog whistle for me. I didn't like it. Also, you made me feel less than the way you sit. You're so flexible. Yeah, you're so flexible. And I couldn't do that. I'm my greatest day of life. And I was, I thought, I don't really want to go out there with this young guy. Yeah. And then he starts complaining about his old body. What the hell? Yeah. See, hey, I'm actually, here's a thing. It's Pilates and Hair Transplants. That's all that's going on here. Well, that's really all this is. It's working. Thanks. Is that the same class? What? No, you can't. You actually, they're actually intentioned because you have to, because you can't do Pilates for a while after the hair transplant. Oh, okay. All right. Because you got to keep up. You got to stay up. Got it. Wait, I don't know if you just do what they say. That's it. It's the least. I had to go all the way to Turkey to fuck it up. I had to go to Turkey. I had to go to Turkey. I had to Beverly Hills. I want to go somewhere I can sue. You know? That is going to have to be our show. Thank you so much to Rob and Theody. Michael, Yuri, Ted McKinley. We'll see you next week at Dynasty right here. There are 289 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend. Yeah. Yeah. If you're already scrolling endlessly, which we know you are, don't forget to follow us at Crookie Media on Instagram, TikTok, and all the other ones for original content, community events, and more. 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