The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz

STRETCHING YOUR MEAT w/ @shannon_stokely

37 min
Dec 12, 20254 months ago
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Summary

Kelly and Liz discuss lifestyle trends, influencer culture, and budget-friendly cooking strategies. They interview Shannon Stokely, a young mom content creator who shares practical tips for stretching grocery budgets through ingredient reuse and meal planning, particularly focusing on using a single protein across multiple recipes.

Insights
  • Audiences are shifting away from luxury lifestyle influencers toward relatable, educational content from regular people sharing practical life hacks and budget solutions
  • Consistency in daily routines (skincare, meal prep) compounds over time and creates significant cost savings and efficiency gains
  • Teaching foundational cooking skills rather than recipe-following empowers people to stretch budgets and reduce food waste effectively
  • Young mothers (Gen Z) are building online communities to combat isolation and connect with peers, creating authentic content opportunities
  • Freezer meal prep and batch cooking using single proteins across multiple cuisines maximizes ingredient utility and reduces weekly cooking time
Trends
Decline in appetite for luxury lifestyle influencer content; rise of practical, budget-focused creator economyShift from recipe-dependent cooking to skill-based, intuitive cooking approaches among younger generationsIncreased consumer focus on quality over quantity, driving demand for durable, versatile wardrobe staplesInfluencer backlash when perceived as tone-deaf about wealth disparity; audience expects relatability and authenticityPress-on nails and DIY beauty solutions disrupting traditional nail salon industry economicsContent creators pivoting from lifestyle to educational/practical content (freezer meals, budget hacks, motherhood tips)Young mothers (Gen Z) leveraging social media for community-building and mental health support around motherhoodStreaming and reading replacing social media scrolling as evening wind-down activities among content-conscious audiences
Topics
Influencer Culture and Audience ExpectationsBudget-Friendly Meal Planning and Ingredient StretchingFreezer Meal Prep and Batch CookingYoung Motherhood and Online Community BuildingContent Creator Economics and AuthenticityFood Waste Reduction and Ingredient ReuseFoundational Cooking Skills vs. Recipe DependencyLuxury Goods Consumption and RelatabilityScreen Time Reduction and Reading HabitsRotisserie Chicken and Pork Butt Multi-Recipe UsageBone Broth Making from Leftover ProteinsCrockpot and Dump-and-Bake Cooking MethodsTex-Mex and Italian Comfort Food RecipesMom Vlogging and Daily Content CreationSkincare Routine Consistency and Product Selection
Companies
Dollar Tree
Discussed regarding inflation; items no longer cost $1, now $1.25-$3, affecting school field trip budgets
Quince
Sponsor offering high-quality wardrobe staples and home goods with premium fabrics and affordable pricing
Alma
Sponsor providing access to affordable mental health care through a network of 20,000+ therapists with insurance cove...
People
Shannon Stokely
Young mom (age 25) with 60,000+ Instagram followers sharing budget-friendly cooking, freezer meals, and unfiltered mo...
Jaclyn Hill
Referenced as example of luxury lifestyle influencer facing audience backlash for tone-deaf wealth displays and low e...
Kelly
Co-host discussing lifestyle trends, influencer culture, and conducting interview with Shannon Stokely
Lizz
Co-host discussing consumer trends, influencer backlash, and participating in interview with Shannon Stokely
Quotes
"I'm not going to tell people what content to consume and what not to consume like I'm not going to defend her either way like hey it's not working so like right wrong or indifferent people don't want to watch your stuff so like I think it's kind of silly to like double down"
KellyInfluencer backlash discussion
"I feel like what it kind of comes down to and I think kind of a kind of an issue with maybe like our generation is I just don't know if we are the cooks that the women before us were"
KellyCooking skills discussion
"Motherhood is super lonely I'm a young mom I'm only 25 and I had my first daughter at 22 so everyone my age all my friends did not have kids so finding other people like me was hard"
Shannon StokelyMotivation for content creation
"I cook with my heart and I kind of just make it work that's how I've always been"
Shannon StokelyCooking philosophy
"You got to be able to take the heat I feel like that's one thing I didn't know when I came on here and really people were good to you in any way possible and you got to be really confident in yourself as a mom as a person whatever you post online"
Shannon StokelyAdvice for aspiring content creators
Full Transcript
Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly. In the way that it's just my Super Bowl because I pull up to the preschool and you know the parents who aren't going leave the car seat. So I just see 10 car seats and I'm cracking my knuckles and I'm like, mm-hmm, let's go. And Liz. It's not all sun shines and rainbows on the when you post your life and your family and yourself on social media. You're definitely opening yourself up to criticism. So if you're not interested in that, it might not be for you. Your mom time off starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Hey, Liz. Hey, Cal. How are you? You know, Liz, I'm great. Thanks for asking. I just got back from Hattie's field trip and it's such a cute little field trip because they take the preschooler to the Dollar Tree and then they pick out a present for their parents. It was just like a cute, fun sentiment. Two things. First of all, I know this like isn't news to anyone. Dollar Tree is not a dollar. Nothing under a dollar 25. Most things, a dollar 50 to three dollars. Now, we only had a dollar 25 to spend per kid. It was exhausting. Because like things that should have been a dollar 25 were a dollar 50. And this girl, so you get paired up with different kids who aren't your kids. Like I was shopping with this little girl and she's like, I want to find my dad a coffee mug. And I'm like, surely we can handle that. They were all a dollar 50. I finally just gave her an extra quarter. I gave her my Aldi's quarter. I said, we have to just be done with it. And then I did tell the teacher, I was like, I think whatever donation you need to get these kids all a dollar 50 to spend, I'm willing to do that. I mean, how many kids are there? There's like 20 kids. You need to throw $5 at the problem. So I could spend a dollar 50. I said, I like to be solution oriented and I will happily give you $5. I was like, I'll even do it next year. I won't even have a kid here. It's fine. Like let me just do that because like it was, it was just, I mean, it's a good enough lesson where it's like, no, you can't get the $5 item. But there was nothing for a dollar 25. Nothing. Yeah. So I have no idea what I'm hiding. I think this, I think the school just needs to like go with inflation and like everything's expensive. So well, and you know, these schools are always asking for money. So like they ask every parent for a quarter. And so I have no idea what had he got me because, you know, like she was with a different mom. So it's just a fun little field trip. And the way that it's just my Super Bowl because I pull up to the preschool and you know, the parents who aren't going leave the car seat. So I just see 10 car seats and I'm cracking my knuckles and I'm like, let's go. It really should count towards your CPST sort of like recertification. 100%. 100%. You're never so happy to see a bright text click tight as you are in that scenario. Totally. Like I'm like, yes, I can do this. Totally. Just interesting. Aside from, so that's where I was up to today. Well, while you were doing that, I was putting on the ugliest freaking, the ugliest nails I've ever seen in my entire life. Eyes. I love glue on nails. I found these Christmas press-ons. They came in a pack of three. Two of them are super cute. One of them, heinous. But since I have a few weeks before actually Christmas, I was like, let me put on the ugly ones because my son will like them. And then I can test out the stick-ons. Because they're not glue, they're stick-ons. Anyway, I'm regretting. They're so ugly. But I'm just going to be committed. I'm going to see how they go. They're super distracting. They're super distracting. Even I see a neutral outfit on too and they're like so distracting. A more colorful, what would be better? It's almost like put your Santa hat on and don't take it off because then they make sense. Then they feel intentional. Those just feel ugly. I think even our mother would say it's too much. It's the holidays. No, you know what? The stick-ons were so easy. I'm so curious to know to see how long these last. I'll be sure to give an update because stick-ons might be my new glue-ons. Yeah, I'm worried for the nail. I'm worried for the nail industries. A couple industries I'm worried about. I'm still worried about the movie theater industry. I'm just not sure how they're ever going to make it. I'm worried about the nail salons because I just think glue-on nails are such an easier cheaper. The problem with it is it got too expensive. I want to pay people for their time, but I just don't think a manicure should cost $65. And that's just what they were costing. But you know the nail salons will always stay in business because pedicures. Pedicures. Well, I think they'll hurt though. Sure. Yeah, they'll hurt. They may not go extinct, but I'm just wondering if any nail salons are feeling the press-on, glue-on effect yet is I guess just I'm just wondering. So I'm worried about those two industries. Other industries I'm worried about. I was way more worried about AI. I'm not as worried about it anymore. I find it to be just kind of a nuance. I just kind of think it's kind of annoying. Yeah. In the sense where it's like, I don't like watching fake videos of fake people. It just makes me question everything. I'm like, is this AI? So, all right. So as I'm questioning everything, I'm like, I don't, none of this is real anymore. I've started, I'm trying to cut back on my screen time, like Taylor's oldest time, but I'm really gearing up for a major cut out in the new year, like a major cut out in like a major way. And I've been reading, let me tell you something, a Kindle is so good. The worst part about reading is starting the book. Once you're started, then it's like such a delight. It's such an easy thing to do. I agree. And it puts me to bed so quickly, which I'm so about prioritizing my sleep. Like I have no qualms with going to bed at 8.45. No qualms. And if I'm scrolling my phone or watching TV, I'm up tilt. I blink and it's 10. My book, I'm getting heavy eyelids after 15 minutes. Yeah, for sure. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So I've just enjoyed it for the simple fact that it puts me to sleep and I'm reading a delightful book. Don't ask me what it is because I don't, that's the problem with the Kindle. It's like, I have no idea what it's called. I'll follow up. Because you just don't revisit the cover or why? Yeah, because I just like pick up where I left off. Okay. It's something worth it. It's something winter. It follows a couple through like 50 years of marriage. And like it like, it's actually really sweet. Like, and so the book starts and they're like 90 years old, like about to die. And then it like goes back through like all of their years together. And like then it makes the first chapter so much sadder because like they've been through so much. And it's so relatable. Like the flashbacks I'm in right now are like, they're in the thick of it. Like they've got three kids five and under and like life sucks. And I'm like, yes. And just like hearing the marital problems that they're going through. I'm like, right. Okay. Because Ruth did give up her career for him. And but they obviously get through it. So I'm excited to see him get through it. It's just like, it's like reading a love story where like, you know, it ends up good. But like you're, it's kind of like a reverse book. Okay. That sounds really interesting. That sounds good. Yeah. I'll keep you guys posted. People want us to bring back the book club. Would you ever consider? Uh, yeah, I would consider. I don't have a Kindle that is maybe something, but you know what? I just fall asleep so early. I don't even need to scroll my phone or I could just crawl into bed, turn on my side and fall asleep. So I'm just looking for something listening. I love listening to books. I love having something to listen to. And I do too. But the problem is it's like, I was looking for something to replace my scrolling. And I think a book is doing that. Like I can't just turn on an audiobook and like lay in my bed like this. Like, can you imagine? Yeah, no. That would be so weird. That would be so interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I see. Um, and I'm also just like struggling because I have like a mere ball trophy hole in my heart because dancing with the stars is over. Like it sucks. It sucks. So. It sucks. So that's that on that. Today's episode is brought to you by Quince. These days I'm all about quality over quantity. You guys know I am decluttering my house. And so if things in my closet are not well made and versatile, they're not worth it to me. I'm getting rid of them. And that's why I love Quince. 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It's a friendly series where we learn from other moms and like what they're doing and how they're making it work in this crazy busy time and this crazy economy. And I just have to say this is like, I am loving this series and I love talking to, I love, my favorite content is regular people being influencers who not everything is beautiful. Like you're not, like you're not the makeup girl, you're not the fashion girl, you're not the hair girl, like you're just a girl and you're just like half kids and you're just like, here's how I'm doing it. So relatable, so attainable and really just like good tips, just like tips for the regular person. That could be an industry I'm worried about because what do you think about, have you heard about like all the Jaclyn Hill influencer drama? I saw one reel on it, so maybe fill in for people who don't know. Well like it's just, so I think people have found a lot of influencers, hopefully not me, to be pretty insufferable for a while now and I myself find some of them pretty insufferable. And I mean I like to think that we're a little different than like your typical influencer because we're, we are like trying to, like we're on the cars, like all the lifestyle stuff you see is just like extra fun stuff that we're doing because we enjoy it, but like our bread and butter and like the reason we wake up every day is like help families buy their cars. But like the true like lifestyle influencers, I think people just have like a lot less of an appetite for than they used to because you know it's just, it's this overnight, in some cases it's this overnight success and some cases it's not and Jaclyn Hill's case it's not, but it's just so much wealth and then I think these influencers- So back up, back up, back up, explain what the Jaclyn Hill stuff is. Okay so Jaclyn Hill was like an amazing, amazing YouTuber like back in the day, like when everyone was watching makeup YouTube tutorials, like she was one of the OGs and like she stayed I think pretty relevant. She's had a couple of cancellations here and there. 8.5 million Instagram followers. Yeah like she's huge. 8.5 million. And she went on TikTok the other day and she was complaining that her views were so low and I guess she was trying to like complain about like the algorithm being like, you know, I have all these followers and like I'm getting 30,000 views. Like I don't know why people aren't connecting with my content. I don't know why people aren't watching my stuff anymore and I think what she was just missing is like she was how unrelatable I think her content has just become and how like uneducational it's become because you know like when you when she started this journey it was like full face using drugstore makeup like let me show you how to do these things like let me bring value and then it just turned into more like and I'm not saying all of her content was this but then a higher percentage of her content just turned into like luxury shopping halls and like I like scrolling her page and watch some and like yeah I think they're crazy like she buys herself six pairs of like $2,000 shoes like she's holding $12,000 worth of shoes and she's like making a TikTok about it and then she's like people just people people just aren't relating and like I think some people care about luxury goods but like the majority of people just don't because it's just it's never going to be especially not a shoe like I like to see a nice luxury bag every once in a while but like a luxury shoe like I would never would never spend money on a luxury shoe ever no like we love a luxury fashion purse but like yeah shoe we love a fashion we love a fashion purse um we do only one per bedroom though that your kids share like you can't have more than one that would be crazy crazy but anyway so and then like I guess in the comments like her responses were just like still kind of tone deaf and I don't know it just begs the question of just like people's appetite for influencers in general um I think ultimately though it's like people I mean I'm not going to tell people what content to consume and what not to consume like I'm not going to defend her either way like hey it's not working so like right wrong or indifferent people don't want to watch your stuff so like I think it's kind of silly to like double down and like defend why you're doing it or why you think you deserve to do it because at the end of the day like no one cares so just like move on with your life um yeah and I guess we will take it really sensitively too because I think they I think that one of the hardest parts for these influencers is that their audience feels like they own them or like they made them that way like you made them famous because I think it's really interesting like the juxtaposition of how someone views an influencer flaunting their wealth versus how someone views like a celebrity or like a business person flaunting their wealth they don't really feel as um mad I guess about like just like a really rich CEO of a company versus like a really rich influencer like I don't know why there's it's just interesting that there's like this disconnect yeah I don't know maybe it's just like you know you're making I don't know I don't know why there is all to say I'm happy that now just like regular people can just like start making content and start making money and like I prefer watching that content like I would never watch Jacqueline Hill's content like no no hate to her but like I just like seeing people with just like that insane wealth like it doesn't it doesn't make me feel great about myself I'm like well shoot I kind of you know I wish I could do that or I wish whatever doesn't make me feel good it makes me feel good to learn about life hacks kitchen hacks how I can you know be more efficient in my motherhood in my life like that's the kind of stuff that I like to consume so yeah I agree I'm happy there I'm happy there is now a space and really truly anyone can do it and so that's what we have today we have um Shannon Stokely on the podcast and um so that will be coming up so let's get into some of the base model luxuries that you have co yes I've been base model luxury and where we share a recent new discovery and um they're not groundbreaking because because the point is that the point is that they never are right but I have decided that I'm just looking for more consistency in my skin and makeup routine and I think consistency is something I struggle with I don't know if anyone else struggles with this but like Liz like can you honestly say that you wash your face every morning and every night like do your full skin care routine every morning and every night I do yes wow okay I don't or I haven't been I haven't been so I'm not mine's like mine's like three things though yeah I know there's days I'll just take a makeup wipe and I'll just go to bed that's crazy okay well then maybe I should stop talking while I'm ahead because I don't want to be like the only one what are you gonna say you just do you just wash your face is that your base model luxury no it's not just washing my face I'm like consistently because here's the thing I want to get better skincare routine but like I would like some different products because I don't know what I'm doing I don't know what a retinol is I'm not there yet I just I don't know but I have a couple of products I'm like I if I consistently use all of these up like I'm going to use all these up every single morning and night and then I'm going to reward myself with a skincare routine or a couple of pieces in my skincare routine yeah that sucks okay I can pivot I can get out of here that was very good did I tell you about reading you have to be so you have to be so careful with retinol though because I was like oh I'll get a retinol got like a nice one I put it on every night you can get what's called retinol burn I remember that and then screwed up my face so you have to be like very you have to like do research before you do like the hard stuff like the hard skincare like retinol okay well good to know okay you guys we are having such technical difficulties Elizabeth and I are like 10 seconds delayed and it's causing a lot of friction between us so we have to just kind of finish this episode a little differently and I'm just gonna talk and yeah so it's like a half solo she sent me some advice questions though that she wants me to cover okay the first one is from Paige hi Kelly and Liz I currently I'm currently driving a Hyundai Elantra and I'm ready to upgrade to a small SUV with all-wheel drive we don't have kids yet but we hope in the next four years and want this car to be something we can comfortably keep long term we live in this city with tight one-way streets so size really matters I've tested in the Mazda CX-5 Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4 the CR-V felt too big for our environment while the RAV4 seemed like the perfect size it was creeping above our budget I also felt the RAV4 seat were less comfortable in the interior the interior felt less luxurious to the Mazda my husband I were both surprised how much we love the Mazda CX-5 especially for the price on the higher trim oh no it felt really nice drove quietly and fit our needs well my only hesitation is the interior space it felt fine with the two of us but I'm wondering how future car seats would fit in the back and whether it's future proof okay are there other small SUVs that we should consider here it is it's the Mazda CX-5 event this the Mazda CX-5 effect every year every every week I feel like I do consultations and people regretting their Mazda CX-5 purchase there are a few people out there there are a few people out there who like to comment every single time and say I love mine I have two kids it works perfectly and that's like that is your truth and I would never take that away from you I if I'm if I'm a betting woman which I have to be in this scenario you will not like the Mazda CX-5 by the time you have kids and I think you should absolutely not get it I'm surprised here you felt the CR-V was too big because to me the CR-V and the RAV4 like couldn't be more similar in size and those are two cars that I would definitely recommend but I also understand the Toyota RAV4 being more expensive I think two cars that are not that are like glaringly not on your list that need to be would be the Hyundai Tucson stunning and the Subaru Forester stunning should both be under 40k should both you can get all-wheel drive will fit two car seats nice nothing's really going to be a three across machine um but I don't think you're really asking for that uh so those of what I would I would I'm telling you do not get the CX-5 with this with this in mind and I'm telling you to get either the CR I approved the CR-V I approved the RAV4 I would approve a Hyundai Tucson and I would approve a Subaru Forester and that's what I have to say on that okay you guys I am so sorry we are having such technical difficulties and so we are just going to have to cut this episode a little short and get to our interview but thank you guys so much for listening to the Carpool podcast we'll be back on Wednesday with no technical difficulties I'm hoping I'm knocking on wood so please welcome Shannon to the Carpool podcast Shannon Stokely welcome to the Carpool podcast hi thank you for having me thank you for joining us we were so inspired by your content recently you came across my desk I said on a few podcasts ago that there was this girl who posted a video of how to use a crockpot pulled pork four ways meet the girl it's it was Shannon um she posts all kinds of unfiltered mom life content um freezer meals crockpot meals stretching your grocery budget all that kind of fun stuff so we're going to dive in we're going to talk to Shannon a little bit about how she got started her history her credentials and hopefully get some tangible takeaways um as a as what we can be doing in the kitchen and it's funny because Shannon that had to be one of your more viral reels because I saw it also uh yes actually the first time I went viral it was off the mom vlog and since then I've had a lot um I've just kind of taken off since my first viral reel so what made you want to start posting on instagram in the first place um so I had my kids back to back and motherhood is super lonely I'm a young mom I'm only 25 and I had my first daughter at 22 so everyone my age all my friends did not have kids so finding other people like me was hard and I found play groups and stuff like that but I felt like connecting online was really how you connect to more mothers and I wanted to make more moms feel less alone because once I found friends and stuff motherhood just felt so much better and I feel like there's so many moms out there that feel alone through motherhood so when did you start posting on instagram in June um six months ago wow okay that's crazy that's awesome that's 60 000 plus instagram followers right now um that's incredible and so you have what you have two kids you said yes I have two one is a Lorelai is three and Iris is 16 months now oh wow cute I love their names thank you so much and so kind of I mean if I've been looking at your instagram bio you say messy sweet unfiltered mom life stretching ingredients and sanity daily so where what are some tips you can give our audience for ways to you know stretch ingredients so I feel like we all go to the grocery store and we buy things based off a recipe so why not make recipes that use similar ingredients similar meats um vegetables I've only done stretch that meat era right now so I'm teaching my followers how you stretch a pork butt or a rotisserie chicken throughout the week but I also want to show y'all how you take three different vegetables and you use them for the same recipes all throughout the week because it just saves you money and it saves you time too yeah yeah freezer meals or something else I feel like are really important and just reusing ingredients like I had an episode a long time ago that wasn't with my stretch that meat was about how you take your bananas that are you know turn them brown and you turn them into banana bread you turn them into syrup you don't throw things away you reuse what you have it feels so good also when you re when you use something to its full like when you empty it out when you throw away a bag of something you're like I used every last I know it's my favorite feeling yes yes it's a great it's a great feeling okay Shannon so let's go let's talk about the reel that kind of landed you here and landed us with your content so you on you made a pork butt in the crock pot and you turned it into four different recipes to have that week talk us through those recipes which one was your family's favorite tell us a little bit about that so we love pork butt we eat it a lot sometimes my husband will smoke it but I like to do it in the crock pot and so my favorite recipe on there is the tostadas we're definitely a Tex-Mex family we love Mexican food in this house so you'll see a lot of my recipes every week I'll probably have one of those so my first one was tostadas and I just try to use ingredients I have like I always keep cilantro with me and I chop it up at the beginning of the week and you just reuse it all week on everything that's kind of how I see ingredients it's easier to prep your veggies cut them up and use them throughout the week I try to do that with onions too um yeah next recipe was barbecue pulled pork sandwiches I was going to do slaw on that and I forgot it at the store so I improvised and I used what I had and I made some crock pot mac and cheese because my kids love it and that actually turned out great and I actually made that yesterday so I'm one of those cooks that I do have recipes on my account but I cook with my heart and I kind of just make it work that's how I've always been and then the next one it was such a long time ago you did the siate bread enchilada sauce that was one of them yes and that was I don't want to roll things so I decided to make an enchilada bake and just our the tortillas in there and it's basically a casserole a Tex-Mex casserole but it just makes things easy and it's honestly not cooking it's throwing things together and that's my favorite cooking I like a dump and bake for sure and then your last one was the um pizza the barbecue pizza oh yeah by the end of the week you know you're kind of done with pork so I was like I need something that's like kind of minimal pork and you're kind of using what you have left so I just used it and made a pizza with it and my family loved it yeah so that's so I love that it's it's the same protein it's basically two flavor profiles like you had like a Tex-Mex and then you had more of a traditional barbecue but I think those are recipes that I mean of course the sandwiches are pretty pork heavy but they use they use a fair amount of pork but you're not it's not just having pork so I think that's a really great cost effective way to kind of make it stretch longer and then I mean also like it's just if you if you if your family doesn't want to eat pork you could always freeze the pork and when you're doing like smaller portions like that it's so much easier just to pull out like a smaller bag or a smaller portion of pork from the freezer to then turn it into one of those recipes and that's normally what I do is I take the whole pork butt and I split it into portions and I freeze it but I wanted to show my followers how you can use it throughout the whole week to like instill not feel like you're eating the same meat totally Shannon talks to me about the logistics of let's go with the pork butt freezing shredded pork and then unfreezing it like that kind of it kind of intimidates me like what bag what kind of bag are you putting it in when are you pulling out how are you thawing it out just talk to me about that so everyone I feel like this is something that people freak out about a lot you know things thawing out and really what I do is I I you don't want to put it in there super hot I was told so I just take the pork butt you shred it and you split it into how many freezer bags you want like probably a pound I do the freezer bags I know you can do it in containers really it doesn't matter and when it comes to thawing out I think the best way to do it is you just put it in the fridge the night before and then it's out yeah totally that's what I do see you know it's so it's so easy and it's just like go I even this weekend I kind of had a bit of an epiphany because I I have two crock pots and I just pulled both of them out at the same time and I used both crock pots and I was like making dinner for tonight and then I was just making one to put in the freezer and I was like this why am I not doing this every time like I'm already here I'm already doing it like just literally do it twice and also I recommend if you're using a bone and meat like rotisserie chicken or a turkey which I'm going to do for Thanksgiving after you're done with it don't throw it away put it back in the crock pot and make some bone broth out of it yeah I think I feel like what it kind of comes down to and I think kind of a kind of an an issue with maybe like our generation is I just don't know if we are the cooks that the women before us were and I think that's just something that we we honestly really need to work on we're so like recipe obsessed and it's like if we can't follow if you don't have the recipe then you think you can't do it and I think we kind of need to learn kind of how to learn how to actually cook and then you can just kind of like make your recipes from there because I just think there's so many people who are like so used to like and maybe that's the way they grew up like I'm not even saying it's their fault but if they never learned those skills or learned what you could do I think it can get hard and it can get really expensive so I think an account like yours is great because it's definitely educational and just teaching people you know I actually like that you don't aren't a recipe person I'm not really a recipe person either I'm like we have recipes we talk about and everyone's always blowing me up for the measurements I'm like girls I taste it I have no idea what the measurement is like that's just that's how I cook and I actually think we need to get more comfortable cooking like that because if you're trying to make your budget or your pantry work longer for you it's not always going to fit into an exact recipe okay so Shannon you said that you started posting on Instagram because you wanted to connect with some more moms what advice do you have to anyone who's sort of like struggling feeling kind of lost feeling kind of lonely and motherhood what advice do you have for them to meet more people and second off jumping off that what advice do you have to someone who's like I kind of feel like I might be interested in posting on Instagram how do you recommend they get started so you got to be able to take the heat I feel like that's one thing I didn't know when I came on here and really people were good to you in any way possible and you got to be really confident in yourself as a mom as a person whatever you post online and if you want to get into it I recommend finding a mom community I have a whole group of moms online that I connect with on their posts every day and they come back to my post and that is the best way to do it yeah that's such good advice and it's true because it's not all sun shines and rainbows on the when you post your life and your family and yourself on social media you're definitely opening yourself up to criticism so if you're not interested in that it might not be for you yeah it's not as easy as people make it out to be for sure I mean you do a lot of mom vlogs I find vlogs some of the hardest videos to to make because you're constantly setting your camera up it takes so long to edit it see yeah honestly I do it every day I do a morning vlog every day it's just kind of I'm used to it and I feel like that's how I really connect with my audience because they get to be a part of my life every morning and see my morning with my girls and I really I really enjoy it honestly that's my favorite good I do also love sharing recipes I feel like that's my way of giving back totally so well she's a segment that we do here on our podcast is called ditch the drive-through where we give our listeners an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get them out of their dinner rut do you have a recipe that you could share yes of course my favorite recipe I when I was pregnant with my second I swear I made it like a million times because it was just so easy and I didn't want to cook and it's called it's a chicken orzo bake and I just take a rotisserie chicken and you assemble it all and you put it in a pan put it in the oven and it cooks itself it's my favorite thing break us down the ingredients I know we're not going to do measurements here but give us the the rough ingredients so what I do is I take my rotisserie chicken I pull it apart and then you can make bone broth out of it that's what I normally do so you don't even have to buy bone broth and you you do orzo bone broth a little bit of cream some parmesan and then veggie wise you can kind of do what you want you can do tomatoes undried tomato spinach um it's a bit of an Italian take on a dish I would say so I do Italians easing and garlic powder and stuff I do minimal veggie cutting for sure totally that sounds good and so like comforting yes it's very comfort food and my toddlers love it like it's one of their favorite meals that's awesome yeah I like orzo it's a different grain yeah it's really good and it's easy to cook in the oven awesome everyone you can find Shannon over on instagram at Shannon underscore stokely stok le y correct yes she did tease it I hope you don't mind I'm about to spoil something she did that she's going to be doing a freezer meal segment on her instagram coming up so she's working on that so we all know how much we love our freezer meals and prepping with the holidays coming up so be sure to check her out Shannon thank you so much for joining us of course thanks Shannon thank you for listening to the carpool podcast 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