Episode 473 | 75 Bodies

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. No, warrior's mom. No. Conductible. No, warrior's mom. No, no, warrior's mom. No, warrior's mom. No, warrior's mom. Welcome back, end of the week. We are sponsored by Boost. This Saturday we have our pop-up shop for our merch. Come through one to six. Cafe Colmado. Yes. 86 Broom Street. We'll be there. Ryan has been practicing all week on his DJ set. Yo, Ryan, it's a lot of pressure on you Saturday. I've been telling everybody, I'm like, yo, Ryan, this is first gig. It's not his first gig. I mean, in New York. It's his first gig in New York. Okay, fair. First gig in New York City. Only gig that matters. You know what I mean? It's the only gig that matters. And they only remember you for your first and your last. First gig in New York City, so everybody's looking forward to your set. I don't want to put too much pressure on you, all right? I don't want to put too much pressure on you. The playlist situation was good. Yeah, Zip sent me the playlist. Zip sent me a new one. You sent the wrong one? See, Zip's going to send you too much. It's going to be 30 minutes of mob. I was about to say. It's going to be CNN. It's going to be like... They play Cool G-Wrap at that cafe anyways, though. No, that's 100%. Cafe Colmado, they definitely a hip-hop-friendly establishment. So it won't be too far out the warehouse. But we are joined by... If he ain't shuffling on that playlist, there's no skips. You want to play this? There's not a skip. Send me the playlist that Zip sent you. Because I don't know, man. Because Zip told me one. Definitely I forgot who album you said was a classic and I looked at you like. Mob Deep, The War Report. No, it wasn't that one. I wouldn't give you too much flat. You said Get Rich and Die Trying is not a classic. So there's that. That does exist. There's that. All right, is a classic album... If it's two skips on a classic album, is that a classic album? Is ready to die a classic album? Yes. Yes. I don't have a skips on it. I can skip them shit right. I live for the funk. I die for the boop. Let me get that out of here. That's not a skip to me though. Yo, yo. I was going to say like suicide or dolt. I was going to skip. Big booty bitches. Hold on, hold on. Because now there's a... There's a pack guts. No, because Zip, now you making it a thing. Like this is the second time you went that big. No, I'm just saying. And they been niggas behind me like, yo, but why he disrespecting? You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm going to pick up notes. You ain't picking up notes. No, no, no, I'm just saying. Big in particular. Because you go right the big. Because those is the classics. Like, we know the classics. That's a... Okay. Okay. We know the classics. After a while you going to skip some shit on the classics. It is... What was the name of that shit? I think give it to Dottron because of the impact. All eyes on me is all eyes on me a classic. Yes. Yes. That's Pops classic. Is there not five skips on that album? I don't know about five. I got to go back. I got to go back. Five? Baby, let me give you a call. I'm going to break you if you really want it. You... Come on, man. Fuck outta here. But that's another one of the greats that we lost. Like, what is it with you going at the greats that we lost that's no longer here? Like people deem that to be like, come on, that's a little disrespectful. You can't go at the greats that's not here. So if I see an ugly ass Michelangelo paying and I say that's ugly, they're going to say, oh, y'all, you can't go out to greats. He's no longer here. But that's not our culture. That's a little different. That's not our culture. We're talking about our culture, hip hop. Because you went that big, then pop. Yo, listen, I spend money on these niggas. These niggas ain't never spend money on me. I could say what the fuck I want to say about it. Y'all spend my money on this shit. That's a fact. Five skips on all eyes on me. I got to go back and listen to it. I'm looking. I don't know if that's five skips on the shit. Double CD, definitely five skips on that shit. It's 2000 and 26. Okay, but it's a double. That came out 30 years ago, 31 years ago, 30 years ago. But you just said machine gun funk is a skip and that's crazy to me. All I want is bitches. Big booty bitches. You step out guys. Yo, when I went to big, big kids are opening up a restaurant. So I went to like the tasting for the shit. And when I walked in, I felt like, man, is it just called their father gay yesterday? So I don't know if I should be walking in this shit. And he's laughing like, what's up with you? I didn't call him gay. I just say he was the king of the gay raps. He just he just nobody. Say, no, no, no, no. Just say nasty shit. OK, say mad nasty shit. I respect that. I mean, you ain't you ain't saying anything. Right. He had nice little bitches. But he just had some. Yeah, he had some bars that he said was kind of out of line. Yeah, what you said? Why are you why are you landed on that big? That's all I understand that. I guess it's classy. Some skips, it's skips on it when that shift comes out. I think it was more than two than it can be. It can be a good. And that's the thing. I think people why we just can't say that I was dope. But some time is it ain't time. Niggas get caught up in them at that when when it come out. Oh, this shit is fire. We bumping this, we jacking it. And then five years later, they don't hit the same no more. Right. It's not timeless. Like, like I always say, big got the best rap album all time to me. Life after death. I don't think nobody made a better album than that. Me personally, I don't think nobody made a more complete album than life after death. I feel like that she got every kind of song on it. It got fun shit. It got shit where he just bullshitting the rap play. Oh, hey, no. It got every type of like every type of vibes on that album. So that to you, life after death will be the best hip hop album. Yes. I don't know if I share that sentiment with you, but that is one of my favorite albums, though. I don't know if it's what you think is better than that. Take care. I think reason without is a better than that. Then life after death. Top to bottom. Like, if you listen to reason without today, there's no skips on there. I don't think there's any skips on life after death today. Yeah, but I was just crazy as a double this. Like, but to me, the music is is better. I think the music is better on life after death. I think it's way better production on life after death than reasonable doubt. Yeah. Yeah, the production is definitely better. Reason was I was great production. Oh, don't get it. Yeah, but it's way better. But life after death. Beat selection is you could make a case is like the best produced hip hop album until you get to some Kanye shit. But life after death has the best beats. Out of those beats. The crazy. Out of them two albums for sure. And I'm saying and I like I came outside to them shit's like that reason. But doubt like I was really hustling to that shit. I knew that I knew what he was saying. A lot of that shit was flying over my head then. But I understand that you could listen to that shit right now. Here's some shit to be like. Reason reason that shit 30 years ago, bro. Reason without. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's why, you know, with Jay doing the shows at Yankee Stadium, you know, I'm laughing, looking at a by that on the internet. That's like, and they're, you know, early 30s, late 20s, and they raving about this. And I'm just like, yeah, I don't even. Yeah, I think it wasn't even. Y'all was either just born or, you know what I'm saying? Like was three years old when that album came out. But to see people 30 years later still like so much excitement and energy around the idea that Jay is doing a show based on that album. I think it's dope. But it's just funny to see like younger cats, like really raving and going crazy to get tickets for it. Ageless because I was six years old when reasonable doubt came out. But no, I don't know what the experience of walking outside when reasonable doubt was was going on. But even that was it wasn't like a big release. Ain't no any all that experience that no, I ain't no nigga. We all went back to reasonable doubt. Ain't no nigga. How did it go on? That shit went gold, bro. Good going gold in 96 was a big deal. Reasonable doubt went gold, bro. Like people try to take that away from home like, yo, it ain't really doing it because it ain't go platinum in 96 platinum wasn't the standard. Gold was the standard. And that shit went gold. And then he re-released it and it went platinum two or three years later. How long did it take to go gold, though? Probably the lot of the amount of time that he used to take them just to go gold because I'm sure he got the he got the checks for that shit. I think it's so like twenty seven thousand first week, which isn't bad. But like, I mean, it was independent. Like he was still back in the game. It was written so the first week back then. That shit might have been gold the first week because not. It was a goal of a star at that point. Nas was a star, but I'm sorry. I don't think it went gold the first week. I'm because because those are the three to me. Those are the three big albums that came out that year. A song with all I know. Yeah, all lies on me. Um, it was rain and reasonable doubt. Those are the three hell on earth came out that year. So reasonable doubt went gold in three months. I was crazy. Yeah, that's a lot of time. I'm not here to get that. Get your check. They used to get you your check right there. I'm just saying that it was like Jay-Z wasn't a star at that point. I've had heard out of his own mouth in interviews where he was like, I would go to the grocery store. Like no one knew what the fuck I was when reasonable doubt came out. But it was different back then. At the right game. $43,000 first week on the debut in 96. They buying physical copies of the shit. No, that was. And like you said, nobody know who he is. That's fire. Oh, no, I think it's incredible. I'm not saying he ain't no nigga. Ain't no nigga was rocking for like a whole year before the album came out. Yeah, and it was a Hemi Foxy. No, Professor. Yeah, Hemi Foxy. That shit was right. That's when that's when that's how they used to break artists was on the soundtrack. Yeah, the first time you would hear a lot of artists would be on the soundtrack from movie. It's like, oh, who's that? And you go and look and be like, OK. And then eventually the label black. OK, that song caught. Now let's start working this artist because obviously this is people's favorite song off the soundtrack. And she like that. My favorite part shit is on the soundtrack. Which one? Above above the rim. There's so much pain shit. Yeah, that's right. That's probably a top. It's a top ten. They never take me alive. I'm getting high. My four or five cockdoors. Fuck it's on the ride. That's my favorite part shit. But that's a classic soundtrack above the rim. Above the rim shit was hard. That road did the sugar. That shit. Above the rim is a classic soundtrack. That's what I think that's what's missing. We need moments like that, like to attach songs like specifically to movies. Where it's like, you know, they're just punching in homie. They ain't writing rhymes no more. It's never going to be like that no more, bro. I mean, they kind of they try to do it sometimes like Black Panther. Kendrick did that soundtrack. I think Cole did. Shit. I forgot the writing session. I forgot what movie that was. Dreamville did a whole movie sounds. They've been trying. There's not like songs anymore, though. It's too much. It's just full projects that they try to put with. You see these albums that we talk about, like the classics and shit like that. These albums sat with us for mad long before we got other music, bro. Yeah, of course. Yeah, we get music way too fast. It's too much shit coming. It's too much. It's too much music coming down the pipeline pause. Like we get too much music for that shit. But it's the same thing even with. It's funny. I saw somebody on Instagram video. He said, you remember when you would only see maybe eight bad women in your life, like only eight, it would be now block the girl. A hundred bad bitches. Soon as you press scroll, it's like, yo, hold me. I told my man that shit. I said, yo, son, back in the day, son. It was 10 bad bras out here, bro. It was 10 bad bras out here, bro. That's it. Just it. As far as you know. Yeah, that's 10 bad bras. You would only see 10. Yeah, bro. There's so many bad bitches in the world. I don't think that nigga wasn't supposed to know it was that many of them. Yeah, no, at all. Because now it's like, how can I, like, commit to this shit right here? Like, I'm more. I see some shit where he better than you. Right. Why would I see shit? I don't know if she's better than you. Like spiritually and mentally, but physically, she's better. It's a lot of them. Yeah, every day I see them. Oh, they got filters on. I saw you with filters on, too. Yeah, I fell for you with the filter. Yeah, fuck is you talking about? Oh, she got makeup and filter on you. You be doing that, too. Yeah, yeah. So I know you look different. I know she looks different, but I want to find out. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think it's just too much. It's just too much for her to pick and choose. The bra for the bras, too, though. Because they ain't used to know it was all of these niggas jinking in the world. They see you in the hood. You doing your day. But even the accent. You was a bitch ticket. Yeah. You doing your day. You was a bitch ticket out the hood. So she's now she's now it's like they don't even speak in the street. Some girls don't speak in the street, something they want. They act like. But get on the Internet and put their whole ass on the Internet. Yeah, don't want to say one word of the street. But you know, but but but me and Rory talk about that. Like you can't even you almost can't even approach women and say hello no more. No, it's better to just give them your phone in the Instagram spot to search. It'd be better off to just pass your phone like that. That's your business. Don't say nothing. Yeah, yeah, just quiet. Yeah, she just put her shit in and then you start DMing. And then the bitch is following for you and all that. I actually do a lot. And I'm saying like, yeah, bitch, I hit following all that. Like, I actually do a lot. But it's better to just do that. Trusting a girl if I don't say a word and just handle my phone with the search. I've seen it. And she do it. I've seen that's a red flag. That's what you got to do. I've seen it though. I've seen it. I've seen it happen. That's how I go, homie. I'm dead ass. That's how I go. But to your point with the act, the same with the women, the ability and access women have to millionaires. At the time is so great. Like a girl like the same way we would. You only see the 10 chicks that was there. She probably see one rich guy her whole life. One of the guys really running it up. And they're not even like super rich. DM 50 millionaires. But it was like he wasn't even like super rich. It's that he owned the corner store. Fuck the name was like in front of the corner store with a big chain. Take it out the hood. Like this. They ain't own shit. He had an Audi. I'm saying he had an Audi. A GS. A nice little condo and that was it. Chain. A watch. And that was it. She think, oh yeah, he's the richest nigga in the hood. Yeah. Yeah. But now she put on phone noise. She see these niggas everywhere in the country. Niggas, they got all the diamonds, the Cali niggas. They looking like they stacking all the money. The athlete niggas. The actors. The athlete niggas is telling bros they hold name. Yeah. Why not? They know what they're going to do. They just gonna Google it out the media. Yeah. And what's it? He just signed for what? 5 years 28. They saying they hold name. You stand no chance. 5 years 28. You stand no chance. Regular niggas stand no chance with them niggas. Them niggas giving their whole name out. Shit, yo. We thought the rich athletes were the final boss. We have to compete with like Saudi princes. They fucking regular chicks for your neighborhood. This is what I'm saying to your homie. Do you know how they say the world is big? That shit is the size of your phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The world ain't big. That shit is the size of your phone, homie. That shit is small as a man. You can see all the bros in Brazil if you want. Yeah. Everywhere. You can go wherever you want to go on that phone, bro. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Even with music and art and shit that we consume, it's like... It's just too much. Yeah, it's tough because by the time I'm really settling in with this album and this artist, Thursday comes around again, Thursday night. And we got a whole new batch coming in of new music and things like that. Sometimes a lot of the shit don't break. You talking about label artists, though. I'm saying every day somebody is putting some shit out with the DSPs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Because anybody could upload. Right. The dude that's just working on the pizza shop, he could upload. Right. You hear some shit, nigga. You vibing some shit. You scroll another nigga put a freestyle. You know, what the fuck is this nigga? Click on this shit now. You over here. Yeah. You forgot about the other person you was listening to. Yeah. It's over. But it's also advantageous, too, though, because now it's easier. You know, like if you go viral. Like if a kid from a random city puts out a record and, you know, it takes off and, you know, he's never been to LA. He's never been to New York. He's never been to Chicago, Miami. He's never been outside of his hood, but he did a freestyle in his homeboys basement, uploaded it to Instagram. It goes viral. Everybody starts sharing it. You get real rappers and successful artists underneath the post, you know, comment and things like that. So it's the access. Yes. So it goes both ways. The access. Give it a curse. It's a gift and a curse. We got AI now. And I feel like AI needs to come up with some type of program for Spotify that it has to run through when you upload. And it can say like, nah, we're not wasting data. As far as the song is good or not. If it's trash. I don't think your man at the Peasershop should have the ability to just upload his song at any point. Like we're wasting a lot of. But if they check, it takes a whole bottle of water to create a snare with AI right now. But we wasting water on people's broken dreams. But what if AI say, yo, I'm going to go back and I'm going to look at a bunch of songs that did good throughout history. So hold it to that level. Yeah. So now it's you. You. What what what what happened? Yeah. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Hold a bunch of bullshit now. I should. Hold it and sit down. We don't like. But it should have not passed the AI test. It uploaded, but it's a legend. But AI is going to go for it. For the past data though. If it's going off of past data, all right, songs that did good. If it don't, we think about songs that did good. If we do that shit, it might start letting mad bull shit come through like, no, this is good. Well, it's like anything now. Anyone could upload shit. Yeah. But it's still you still have to break through though. There's still a certain level that the music has to be at in order for it to really break through. Like we'll sit here and talk about shit that goes viral and debate whether or not like this is an artist that has longevity and have fun with it. But we know the ones that's like, bro, this he just caught a moment or she just caught a moment. Like this ain't going to be around for two years or even a year. Like I think we still can feel if an artist has that type of talent level where they're going to sustain that. That nigga from Queensbridge be going viral all the time. Who? They ain't even in there. Troubling with your friends. They ain't even in there. Somebody in Queensbridge doing twerk music. That's that nigga, man. What's his name, bro? Ty Lill. Is it good? Is he a streamer? Is he a streamer? You mean Zeddy Will? Zeddy Will. Zeddy, I'm about to say Ty Lill is a streamer. Zeddy Will. Now you in the club. Working with your friend. Talking with your friend. I think I heard that. He, every trip viral, every trip he be wilding on TikTok with that shit, bro. Like he should be on Vernon doing that shit? I don't know where he be. Like he just be lit. Like he's not know, this shit is not regular. Like he's got. I'm not here to. He's TikTok. One million followers on Instagram. I love that. Anyone that could be successful. Oh, TikTok is just probably where he's been. I'm here for. Oh, he got like fans and shit. He's lit. Let's have, sometimes I'm out of touch. You never heard that song. I probably heard it and didn't even know. I think I heard that song. I definitely heard that song. All right. But you think he'll have like a follow up. Actually, I have seen this shit before. The two of them. And he's the one that's on the mic now, right? Yeah. And the Queen's Bridge is told. Yeah. I've seen this on the radar shit before. But you think he'll have like a follow up or is it one of those moments? Yeah, because he got some more shit. He got, he got like, he got like, he got to have at least three viral songs. But I mean, even that becomes like artists and songs have just become like products in the way. Like, remember them little widget things that spun? Like it's just the trend for the second and it moves on to the next. The next drinks. Can't put that one out. Why would they? If you if you're going to have just viral songs and just go song to song, like, damn, they're running up over every song. Why would you even bother doing it out? Yeah, at this point. And also, you got to like dedicate so much time because you wouldn't be a musician if it wasn't for this to that one song and all the marketing around it. You can't do that with 20 fucking songs. You're not that talented or have that much time. But I'm never mad at the kids that are just trying to go viral for each song. Just stay out of the album lane. It's kind of pointless. Like, I get it. You just want to make bread. Get it how you live. But an album. Michael Wave. For what? It was a microwave society. But some music is meant for that. Yeah, I think it's I think it's a lane for that. I think it's a lane for, you know, just the viral artists, the viral, you know, God, the viral girl that just every now and then they'll put a record out. And, you know, it'll be some success. But we can't look at them with the same lens of Jay-Z or Nas or. Oh, we can't look at it. Shit is over. They they punch it in, bro. Even even even the niggas who we say got balls, they going in the booth. They giving niggas six bars. It's something. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Right there. They think about it. Go out, smoke some weed, drink some liquor, they go back in there. I got six more. You know what I'm saying? They shale forward. That shit is that's that's why I feel like that's why the music ain't. Ain't lasting. I watched that shit myself as a nigga that I went to the stew with these niggas. I see these niggas in the stew punching in. Like to me, that shit is mad corny. Like as a rap nigga, like reading off your phone, freestyling, you mad corny. You know what I'm saying? Like in the booth, punching in that shit is mad corny. I don't care who you is. And I don't care who like who I don't care who say, oh, I did that. Oh, such and such used to do that. I don't care. That's corny. Know your rap. Go in there, spit your raps and get up out of there. That's how you going to be able to freak the beat home. You ain't going to be able to freak that beat. Not knowing your raps, reading it off your phone. The shit is mad monotone. You reading it off your phone. You don't know that. Yeah, I mean, there are some some artists that still write pen to paper and will read the paper. But I do I do understand what you're saying when you need to live with the music and the beat and your in your lyrics so that it becomes natural and rapping and it don't feel so like very like right on top of the beat. It has to feel like it's in the you had this being your creed for a month. You been in your bathroom with the shower with the shit. All your clothes. While. So now when it's when you in the booth with a style, you use an instrument on a beat. Yeah, that's what you're doing to the beat. But these niggas don't got that. These niggas is going to the studio. They'll find a beat. You'll find a beat. All right, boom, you're like that. Yo, we like the I write the wrong. They type it around on the phone. We like that. Yeah. Yeah, they type the wrong on the phone. Then they go on the booth and do that. Sure. That's corny rap. Yeah, I don't care who it is. That's corny rap. Right. You can tell what someone is just. That's why nobody know these niggas rhymes. That's why you can hear these niggas and be like, that shit was fire. But you don't know that rhyme. He didn't know that rhyme homie. How you going to know? Right. Right. He didn't know that rhyme. Yeah, no, I feel you. That definitely makes sense. That's what happened. And that's they should have kept the studio prices mad high. That hurt the rap game. I'm trying to find a AI program to stop the studio back in the days. That shit was mad expensive. What? I ain't got that. Yeah, whatever it was. I don't care. I never had money for the studio. Accessibility in my life. Accessibility. Yes, I never. But once I came home and that shit was they could tell you like, oh, $40 an hour. What? Yeah. That's a good point. Because then you just chilling. Whereas when you had 500 bucks, you could be in there for you taking the whole week at home. You know your rhyme. You a nigga, we're going to do seven joint. What you mean? Watch. I've been rapping this shit for two weeks. I know these rhymes. You put the beat on it. They're going to make no mistakes. One take this. Why are you like, oh, this is it. Load the next one up. Fuck you. Me, we on a time. Yeah. 500. That's done. Load the next one up. Nigga, fuck you. You talk about back. It was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't go. That's what happened. You couldn't go in there. Bullshit. But now I'm letting the play for two hours. You can put any one of your man's in there. They're going in there to experiment. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, come in here. You know the corner. Yeah, 120. This nigga 120. You'll get these niggas off the corner, man. Niggas in this ain't anything. Niggas just going to say anything now. No, that's what I said. That's how that's what's going on with the games. They put mattresses in quad. People just sleep in there. Yo, I went to quad, said I didn't understand it. But I ain't go lie. Buster was acting. Buster owns quad. Buster's probably right now. I don't even want to get into that. Buster did. I did a joint, right? Yeah. I did a joint. I don't know. I don't know. Buster is top floor quad. It's his shit. I don't know this. Yeah. All I know is I'm going to quad. I just fresh out of jail. Now I'm saying I'm going to quad to do some shit. Yeah. So one of my men's out of nowhere. He's like, yo, Buster Rhymes used to be this nigga favorite rapper back in the days. I was like, get the fuck out of here. But yo, put that what's the name beat on? Put your hands with my eyes. Because see, you know, to put that beat on, I'm going in there. I got some shit for that. So I got some dope shit for that. Talking about selling dope and all that. Going out, spit that shit. Yeah. So now the nigga Phones, that be with Buster Rhymes, nigga Phones figures. He in the studio. I was up north with this nigga for like, oh shit. So he's sitting in here in the video. He in the little studio. Now you in the studio, spit your shit. Niggas be filmed. He's sitting in here. He doing that shit. When we come out. Buster Rhymes. Look at this nigga. You know, I'm kind of drunk now. Fuck you. You're doing it. Looking like you mad at niggas. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my man told me, like, yo, take a picture. He was like, nah, I don't take. Now I was like, yo, man, fuck this nigga. Fuck you. Me and yo, take no pictures. I don't take pictures with niggas like you. Well, I hear you want to take a picture with you. I don't know. He was mad. He was rapping on his beat. I think so. I think he was mad. I was rapping on that beat and I was smoking that shit. Like I was really smoking a beat. And I swear to God that nigga was standing there. He was like, no pictures. I was like, yo, man, fuck this nigga, man. My man was like, yo, chill, yo. He was like, yo, my man just did 20 years. He was like, yo, welcome home. I was like, fuck all that. Welcome home. Shit. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, hopefully you stay here. I was like, yo, insha Allah. He hit me with the no insha Allah. No insha Allah? No insha Allah. I'm out. I'm getting out of here. No insha Allah is wild. I never heard that. I said, yo, niggas with pot got shot at, man. Let me get out of here. Ain't no God in here. Niggas said, no insha Allah. This with pot got shot. Yo, get me out of here. Buster Oz has a song called The Founder of the Nation of Islam. He has a song with the full name. Yo, sir. No insha Allah. No insha Allah. I've never heard that before. Yo, come here. Yo, one of my men was like, yo, sir. He was like, yo, it's like my older nigga, right? He's a yo, that he said no insha Allah. I said, oh, yeah. Now God don't look in here. God ain't in the world. God didn't. The pot got blammed up in there. Give me the fuck out of here, man. Yes. Oh my God. That's funny. And I said, no insha Allah. I've never heard that before. That's crazy. I don't know if y'all saw what Joey Badass says. It's kind of what you talk about is that he tweeted out. Think about it. If somebody at the top gave somebody coming up an opportunity to come after them on a record, you know what happened? They would get their food, a rent is due, bills are paid, expedients, whatever. He's saying public perception of who's the best would be drastically different if this were a regular occurrence. This is exactly why you didn't see J.I.D. on the fall off. He would have over stood the assignment to me personally. It makes no sense. He wasn't on it. But maybe that's just me. He's saying that a lot of bigger rappers, like in your situation of being in the studio with bus and you saying like, oh, you probably hate this because I'm smoking your shit. But I don't feel like that's the case all of the time. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to stay exclusive. We see what's happening to these niggas when they losing the exclusivity. That's a word. Yeah. They losing that shit with this internet. So we don't like it's like before you used to hear these niggas and read about these niggas once every two years in the XXL. Maybe he coming to source that same year if he got a roll out going. But we don't know these niggas really. We know they giving me this much quotes from the niggas. And then the the the nigga that's doing the article we hand for them. We don't know these niggas back in the days. Now we know everything. You niggas be on the internet too much. We know everything about you. You a corny nigga that could rap. We said you are a corny nigga. At most of these niggas. Right. So with Joey Chugamahia, I can like all these new niggas or niggas would be smoking these old niggas. You get on the track with Kish. You not smoking Kish. You not smoking fab. You not smoking J. You might smoke some of these niggas, but you not just going to be smoking niggas. Right. I remember Vato was doing this big one. Well almost every song he was on with Ken. He was going off. I was saying Vato was trash because of him fucking up on Hot 97. My shit is you from New York City nigga. And I don't want to go platinum more than I want to go to Flex and get busy. Right. As a rap nigga from New York. It's a different, yeah, it's a different standard. You understand what I want to go up there and had this nigga play this shit for the next 10, 15 years. Like one of his good nights. Here come my shit. Like fuck platinum. And I'm saying like that's what that's like in every New York niggas like that. And he was up there fucking up back to back to back. Like he was up there fucking up. So I used to think the nigga was trash. So I'm telling the nigga that shit one time on the gate. I'm telling that shit to the Mac ball and nigga. He like you bugging. And then they got all of the mixtapes with Cam and Vato. Yeah. Guns and was a guns and butter. So much that guns and butter shit. Yeah. Son, I had that shit on the keyboard blasting that shit. So I'm like this little nigga going off on everything. Yeah. He is nice. Like that. Yo, he was going off on every. I'm talking about every song. I'm like, yo, this nigga is well. I feel like Vato is one of the most underrated rap. I see that nigga. I met when I met that nigga. I told that nigga. I said, I ain't gonna lie homie. I got to tell you this, man. I feel like you wanted them ones, homie. I always felt like that. I always felt like I feel like if he could make a better hook. Songs. Yeah. If he can make better songs, rap and bars, ball for ball. Not a lot of niggas from New York or for you. And Harlem Top 3. Stalin on you. He got he got he got bars like but it's a but a lot of the a lot of the guys that love Vato will say like they just wish he would make better songs. Yeah. But rapping a lot of these niggas can't rap. But that's what I don't. If I would love to have Vato up here to ask him about the Khalid situation because it was weird with him and Cam at the time. And I'm with you. Vato was just smoking verses, but there was no real record yet. When he signed with Khalid, I was like, oh, that's the perfect. And then the perfect thing. Yeah. Like I was like, I can't get him to a place where he had one. I don't know what happened. Khalid will gift him a bunch of hit records and Vato just has to fill in the piece. He wasn't doing that shit, which is kind of great. Like I really think he dropped the ball. I think like he was on backfuel saying like I wasn't really giving them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But as far as skills, like V is one of the best in New York for sure. When it comes to rapping, you have to ball. Absolutely. But I mean, I don't really agree with Joey on this entire thing because I shit, even how Cole not Cole got on. But a big moment for Cole early in his career was when Kanye was doing the good music Friday shit, like Good Friday, he put out a record every Friday. Yeah. He put Cole at the end of looking for trouble was the name of the record. And he just left the end for Cole to smoke a fucking 32 and completely stood out and killed everybody. Mm hmm. Every time I've seen Jay bring state property up to flex. Jay Rapp, he wasn't like, I just don't believe that. So niggas don't always kill a nigga like you always like like I. In my opinion, Jay got busier than big on Brooklyn's fine. I think big got him back on the next one. We talking about the hate suits. I love the dope. These classes I project off like shit flashes. I feel like he got him back. And I'm saying, but he had to because this nigga, you know, I'm saying like he we got he got record on every but niggas normally don't really wild out. Like when you put them on, they don't really wow down on the niggas. I put them on. Yeah. And my thing with Joe, you're saying is this too, though. Yeah, you can be hungry, right? So if the top dog is giving one of the young pups a look like, all right, come on, you're going to get on this joint. You could be hungry for like, but then it's also the side where you find out there's a big gap difference when the talent. I know pop, you can't stand it because we cocked the man was running your crib, no prisoners pop your grandma. Right. That shit made niggas understand. Jay was a few notches above niggas. Right. And I feel like everybody got busy on that song. Let's get that for sure. But but when you start talking, it was like, what the fuck? You find out that it's still a it's still a it's still a gap. It's like your best. Is good if you talk to somebody else other than me. I said that. I don't think the nicest nigga, me personally, I like kiss and fad more than Jay. Sorry to hear that. You like fad more than Jay Z. Yes. But if you're going to ask me, who's the greatest MC? Jay Z. Jay Z is Muhammad Ali and rap. But you talking about what you like personally. My I like the nicest nigga to me is kiss and fad. Them niggas is nice in you. I don't care who you are. They could rap better than you. You know what I'm saying? They could rap better than you, bro. You know what I'm saying? Better than Jay Z. Yeah. OK. Now I'm saying, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now, I'm you heard Jay Z. I heard Jay Z spent no nice shit in 10 years. It been 10 years. He did the God diverse is fucking insane. You tripped. When the last time you heard whole fire, God did. I feel like even but I said one verse, we give a nigga one verse. But how many verses he really I mean, even on four, four, four verses. Yeah, I was crazy. 10 years, 15 years. He got crazy verses on everything. His love for four, four, four, ten years ago. Wait, written testimony was five years ago. He has crazy verses on written testimony. Crazy verses. No written testimony might have been more than five years ago. We just did the final press for five year anniversary. It was COVID. So it'll be now six years. OK. But last year was a five year anniversary. I ain't got crazy. There's one that I'm not saying hold can't go in the booth. It act bad. I'm not saying he can't do that, right? But I'm saying I've heard way more fab and way more kiss in the last 10 years. Way more. And I started hitting all your niggas around the same time. Mm hmm. This is what I'm saying. I heard all that started in all your niggas around the same time. But I've been in these niggas way more for these last 10 years. I mean, I'm more active. The last the last time I felt fab was really, really in shape. Was the Freddie versus Jason kissing? Summertime shootouts. Was there a Summertime shootout after that? Fab hasn't been as active. I think you think you should shoot out three is it's 2020, right? OK. Yeah, that was around COVID. OK, you're right. You know what I'm saying? I remember that. You know, no, no, that that that tape is fire. Yeah. But I'm still in no way cosigning that I think that this is. And I think the whole God did verse could compete with the fucking some shootout three, like as far as rapping goes. You got to go back and listen to God did verse. That shit is unreal. I actually came out. Summertime shootout three came out before COVID. It's twenty nine. So yeah, that's seven years. It's underrated tape, though. That's right for COVID. No, Fab is one of my favorites. COVID-19 started right there. Yeah. That's a fact. You know, Fab is fab to me is one of the he's one of the underrated ones, too, though. That's my Tizia, my Tavar. Yeah, I don't think people talk about fab and respect fab as much as they should. But he's to me, he's definitely. But I don't I don't think he's a better rapper. My preference. I don't. That's what's up. Won't you say that I respect that? All right. So look, fab albums ain't all that to me. I don't really fuck with fab albums like that. The soul tapes, the young old G. Freddie versus Jason was hard. Freddie versus Jason, Summertime shootouts. That's the that's the fab you like the core. Like if you're going to give me some fag, give me that fab, the funeral fabs and all that. I can miss me with them. Shit, I'm good with it. Some shit on funeral. Yeah. But I'm but that's not who I'm talking about. OK. I'm talking about the soul tape nigga. Summertime shootout nigga. Like, you know, I'm saying like Jason, you don't go to G, you don't go to G fab. That's that nigga's ill. I think that's probably one of his best. That's probably his best project. You don't go to G. Freddie versus. He doesn't. His best album. It's up there for me. Yeah. For me, it's up there. He got platinum albums, though. You know, for sure. He got he had big records. I got big, big fucking records. So so yeah. But I'm saying like that I could really go back to and that I like listen to him like he was getting going crazy on this. Young OG, I think it's overlooked in fab's discography. I don't think people talk about that. I'm current situation, the litigation. Yeah. It's some it's some shit on there. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe real talk or young OG. Now I'm looking at the catalog. Yeah. Real talk that that's the shit with all of the features. That can't be the best one. Listen, I was 14 when that shit came out. It just that it's a different. It's an nostalgic shit for me with real talk. So what year was that? 2004. That's not that's not. There's a shit ton of features. So you are you are right. I forgot. For the second album, right? No, I was just third because it was ghetto, fabulous. Oh, one street dreams, 2003. Real talk 2004. All of them shit went platinum right there. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure. You were planning on 9 11. Mm hmm. Which is crazy. He dropped 9 11 and went platinum on a debut. Maul, I heard you talking in the lounge earlier that you feel like you have to overpay for great wireless. It's like a big thing that you preach all the time. But I'm here to preach that all the time. But Maul, you can get off your soapbox because Boost Mobile is proving that you don't have to overpay for great wireless. Unlock the savings with twenty five dollars a month. Forever unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts, no price hikes, no fine print. When you find out you got to pay all this extra money. Stop overpaying and switch to a fair price at boostmobile.com today. Based on average annual single line payment of AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile unlimited plan as of January twenty twenty six before all for details. Visit boostmobile.com. Yeah, but so Joey, I guess, explained himself further in that tweet. Maul, you know my eyes about if you want to read that. All right, what do you say? So my sentiment is this type of thing happens all the time. This is just a recent example that I think is clear. By the way, the topic was about sparring in hip hop regarding the whole interview. This is not this is not just about J Cole. This is about lyrical rap as a sub genre period. My sentiment is that there's a scarcity mindset in the sub genre and usually the top guys don't invite other hungry spitters onto their own tracks. Let me give Cole his flowers real quick just to be clear because I love the album and I've always loved him as an MC and person. But I stand on what I'm saying. The evidence is there. There's a difference between doing features for niggas and featuring niggas on your own work and for the record, if niggas whole hardly thought Jed didn't fit on the fall off, that's your opinion. But he's also not featured on any other J Cole album. Didn't J Cole just say hip hop was dead? J. I. D. If hip hop was dead, J. I. D. will be platinum on a throwaway mixtape, by the way, but then not feature him at all on the mixtape or the album when either or would have made sense. All I'm saying is notice the trend in this specific sub genre. I mean, I get that. I understand that. I get that. They've wrapped. All right. I know. I know. I understand what he's saying. Why do we think Jed wasn't on the mixtape or the album? Do we think it's because Cole was dead? He don't fuck with a nigga like that. No, because he they've wrapped together and on on top of that dreamville as a label has put out so many group projects that Cole has anchored that has has led J. I. D. Sean. Brandon, I'm with you that it would be cool to have Jed on an actual J. Cole album, but one, he stands you with features to begin with. Two, not every single artist is has the same mindset as J. Z. Where if I got you signed, you're going to be on my album. To the point like Memphis Bleak on your album, I'm going to give you a whole song called Dear Summer. Like he I think J. Just has a different mind state with the people he signs. It's a business one. Cole, I think that's an artistic one. He saw us. You know, I understand what Rory is saying, but Rory, where I'm going to give you a little bit of pushback before you finish your point. Jed was just Grammy nominated. Yeah, you have an artist that's Grammy nominated. Currently, you put out a mixtape before your most anticipated album. He can't get a look on nothing. I also do in him like Jay did him. I'm not. Yes, J. I. D. I'm not saying Jed needs it. I'm saying it will be a good look. Doing the same thing. Jay Z. Did they he gave him. I mean, what you mean? Cole picked the wrong song. He was given. Jay was given cold features. Right. Yeah. His first his first album holds featured on Mr. Nice Watch. The song stinks. But yeah, but hold is on J. Cole album. Yeah. Yeah. His first. They call on a whole album. So yeah, yeah, oh, it's always born right. Which which he gave him a platform to to rap. He did. But I'm saying to get to Grammy nominated right now when this album is coming out. He not only our and that's your artist. Maybe he don't like him. Maybe they just. They practice. He just said on the mixtape that maybe Bob's there because because Jig should be platinum of his talent level. Like he shadowed him out on that record. But also where I will give pushback is Cole is explaining this as a concept album of being twenty nine driving a Fayetteville. Then it's twenty whatever fucking agency picked. Where does Jig fit in that story? Like I could get Future to sing a hook that makes sense. We're doing it. I'm talking with big and pop fitting that story, which. Huh? We're big and pop fitting that story. This one I'm saying I can't say. I don't know. She would have left that chapter out. I'm with big and pop fitting that twenty nine. You know, you did not know big and pop. You know what? I'm humble enough to say you got me. They call me a hate. You write the death. Now I'm wearing because you can't try to say, oh, my, yo, yo, my man, yo, we was doing this. He fit out of fucking big and pop fitting that scenario. Then I don't know if it because that's what he was. Y'all that's what he was thinking when he was driving. Right. Not, yo, I'm a son of niggas. Get filthy rich off of this nigga. If every I'm saying for every nigga rich and you clicky and you clicky is rugged. Yeah, you ain't digging that. I saw I know. But I don't like that because Cole like what he does with the revenge of the dreamers projects like or even that, that camp that they did in that campaign where they had everyone in Atlanta, like they definitely pushed their artists the best they can. I actually think it's whack when a label entire game plan is, oh, I'll just do a feature for you. That's where the shit be failing. Anytime a rapper gets big and starts to sign people, a lot of them have the stupid mindset of all I have to do is just be a feature on their shit and they'll pop instead of trying to develop them and do what what Dreamville has done with you. But if you already did, it's not going to. But this is what I'm saying. If you already did the develop the artist development with the nigga, you say he's Grammy nominated. Homie, I'm getting on this song, bro. You is getting on this song. It ain't like it ain't like three songs. Pick it ain't like Jed is still on the come up. He's still got to make his bones and Grammy nominated. He's Grammy nominated for a rap album. What are you so maybe close looking like what you need me for? It's not a need. It's not. Let's take that word out of it. Jed doesn't need to look from J Cole. J Cole doesn't need to look from Jed. I'm saying Jed skill set, his success, his energy right now around him and his project that warrants a look from his peer. Now, one of the tears peer now. Has J Cole ever been Grammy nominated for rap album of the year? Probably. I don't I don't know if the top top might. Yeah, he's that that famous meme where he's sitting there tight when he lost. So that's his peer. We're both Grammy nominated artists now. It's nice. It's nice peer. If I'm Grammy nominated and you Grammy nominated, we not peers. Come on, so everybody wouldn't Grammy on me. How we not peers? I'm not saying the the kid that just got a viral song is J Cole's peer. I agree that he's singing on the train. Got a Grammy homie. He ain't nominated. He got it. Well, J Cole's peers are Kendrick, Drake, Future, Nicky. Those are his peers because of you told him because of time in the in the game. I'm saying he's his peer, meaning my skill set, my audience, my fucking friends don't define that to me. If you nominated that, that don't make you the trash people is is nominated for rap albums. That don't make them wait. Hold up. Wait, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. If I'm nominated for a rap album of the year. OK, and I'm your artist. You wouldn't think that. OK, I'm now a peer of yours. I'm still beneath you. But yeah, yeah, it's J Cole. And I love Jid, but Jid would say he's beneath Cole. I don't know if you I don't know if Jid would say that. Well, as a rapper, he would say when it is time to get busy. So that's what I'm saying. Peerwise, that's all I'm talking about. And I'm talking about as far as rappers is Macklemore. Cole's peer. I mean, he beat all of them. Not skill set. But we know what that was about. I'm talking about I'm talking about Jid being a rapper that Cole signed. Glorilla was nominated. But Glorilla got so I and Cole give Glorilla the verse. The funny shit is I can see Cole giving Glorilla verse. So come on, Jid. No, that's the funny shit. I can see J Cole doing a song with Glorilla before before Jid. But are you guys keep failing to miss that they've done records again? I know I understand that I'm talking about multiple J.I.D. Jid was going to be on a whole album, though, bro. Even fuck the outlaws. Even even if it's not the album was all 50. Even if it's not the album, he put out a mixtape right before the album. And they put him on it. This is just a mixtape. This is just your every nigga. Every nigga who you could think about that had a crew. Them niggas was on the album, son. I'm a big camera on had you as a niggas on the album. To me, big Jid is a peer of J. Cole. He has his skill set, his artistry. No, his I love him. No way. Jid is nice. But he's not. He can't eventually get to be his peer. But he's not right now. I'm not going to say the word peer me because I like you. I like to know who's the kid. I said, I didn't like the other week that Rory say he was. But it's peer. Look, look keenly or no, that's not. I don't know what peer peer me like peering is something that look keenly. Right. That means it's two different. Give us the other. Yeah, give us the other definition. Something like now Ireland now now Rory's appear. Ireland's up there. Huh? A person of the same age, status or ability as another specified person. So status status, little key. Let's not even know when that argument was. I said, I ain't like he put an album out where we said he liked it. Who? Little little key with his name. I've no idea. Oh, baby King. Oh, maybe. Maybe King. OK, OK. Jid and baby King is peers, man. No, they're not. Why not? I think. Jid. Jid is. Just say it. Jid is a better artist than baby King. Like, oh, I know, I feel that way. I feel that way. I'm saying they not peers, though. I think Jid has been way more active. Keem, I think is about to get to that place. But Jid has been so active the last 20 years where Keem took a lot of time off. And I don't think there are peers in that regard, just because I think Jid has put out more stuff. But now that Keem has this other project, he said he has two more in the tuck. He's going on. So I think Keem is about to get there because he's focused on his career. He took five fucking years off. What about Joey Badass? Is he a peer who? Jid. Yeah, I mean, Joey's a little bit more established than Jid, in my opinion, because Joey's been around here for over a decade. More than that. Way more than that. Jid is a better is a better artist than Joey Badass, though. So so so. I don't know if if Jid has has a better project in 1999. And you guys know I love Jid. I don't know if he has a better project than that. I think Jid is a better artist. I think he's a better. Is he a better rapper? If we're talking about right now. So we be. Jid is a better rapper. So so like. Jid's always better than Joey's last one. But I'm still on the status side of like, you do have to take longevity to some account when you're using here. I like that. Joey is is in a different league because he's been around for so long. So for both of y'all's arguments, so Noriega would be Jadakiss's pit. Yeah. You say no because the ability is not the same. Well, not not just ability, but the status like Norie has classic songs. He has, in my opinion, a classic album. Four go albums. Yeah. So yeah, I would I would I would agree to. That they pay the skill set is not the skill set is different. But as far as, you know, just discography and and and and longevity and time in the game and and accomplishments and things like that bodies of work. Yeah, Norie's he's a he's a pidgeon. I think J. Cole can rap circles around future, but I still think futures is pure. Just as far as accomplishments, what they've contributed, how they've changed music. That's his future is J. Cole's peer. But the ability as far as rapping is obviously different. Future would say the same. But when it comes to just creating music, that's where I say with with peers. Like I listen, Travis Travis Travis can't rap like Nicky, but they are peers in some degree. If you want to start getting to status. Is Jidd's album is Jidd's album is just last album better than the follow. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I'm not mad at the follow up is fell off already. All right, see the follow fell off. I need to go read the first disc. The first disc is great. Come on, man. Really, really good. Real bro. Half an hour after album is good. No, it's two of them. It's the fall and we're like half the project. No, I like the first disc. Love the fall like the fall. The first one I like my favorite time of year. I like the first one and I like a few joints on the second one. But again, I'm not. I don't like double disc to begin with. That's something that I don't like when artists do unless you have a life after death, which is impossible. You got to go crazy on a double disc, bro. But I'm just saying I don't understand like see the point of everything that Cole has done for Jidd, whether it be in the public eye or behind the scenes. I don't know if you're just owed, not owed, but I don't know if if I'm putting together my project that's about my history and life. And this is my last album. I don't know if my mind says it's just like I have to place Jidd somewhere in this story just because now this is the time. Yeah, I don't feel like making excuses for him. Oh, hold on. Like I don't want to make any this a drink. Whatever. Small things when I do this. But I mean, yeah, Drake does a lot of features for people that he signs. But when it's time for Drake to make an album, bro, I'm going. I'm going to hit Future. I'm going to hit Little Baby. I'm going to hit people. I'm not putting Roy Woods and of course, he put division on views and all that. I'm not saying he has done that. OK, I was waiting for you to say that. Oh, no, he said he said party. I'm just saying it's right. No, no, no, he's putting albums. Hit me up. Well, a lot of stuff with with the party stuff. And I mean this respectfully. The party and him are great collaborators when they write music together. Whereas that's different between J.I.D. and J. Cole, because they're not collaborating to write with each other or create melodies and this and that. Like the intro to if you read this too late was originally a party demo than that Drake flipped and figured out that's different to me. Album, that's my favorite. That's his or I ain't gonna lie. But at that time, if you read this is too late, now we in the basement and we working on the phones. No, he was traveling on that. He was traveling on that. I thought he was trapped. Oh, bro, he was. Well, the shift happened where he went from like soft to aggressive. Like he was trapped and bro, like they was getting money. But to me, he does that with his artists more on their projects than he does on his own. Not every single Drake album is like just a fully OVO feature. I get what you say, because they might not be on the mic. But why would you get on one joint? Take it on some I keep on you. Are you there here around but for the most part, Drake is on nation a lot. Is you is J. Cole on a lot of. I mean, even even hope you go through everything. You get the album, you don't get the whole rock on my album. Did J. Cole was he on JID album? No, no, he was supposed to be. If he not going to have JID on his album, you got to get on son album. But you know why he wasn't though. Why? I think that J. Cole didn't want anybody to really hear him like that until the time the time and he was finishing up his project. And the rap game is to this angle a lot. I don't I don't like niggas. That's all good. Bob selling drugs only now. These other niggas, these other niggas is too weird, bro. You're too fucking weird. You got too much like what way he said, what what you doing? I need the perfect beat. I need the perfect. What is it doing? Yeah, fuck out of here. Y'all niggas need to. I like the niggas. It seemed like the niggas that selling drugs, Benny, the butcher and them kind of niggas, get them niggas a beat. They gone, go in there and talk about this shit and get it over to my. Oh, I knew he wasn't going to get on there. Yeah, he didn't want to be heard. It's him, but what nigga? But I mean, you still want to be heard every fucking chance he got. Yeah, but coming off of everything that Cole, you know, obviously the last two years and then, you know, I think it was very calculated, niggas, deleting songs. Where the fuck is this shit? Yeah, I don't like this. I like to make that sale drugs. They ain't deleting that shit. They need that. They need the DSPs to send them niggas a few dollars. They ain't going to delete that shit, man. Straight up. Niggas didn't got all this money and change, man. No, I listen to niggas don't even like rapping no more. The shit is more about instead of rapping. It's like it seemed like it's more about. Well, it's business with J. Cole. It has to be the type of artist he is. He has to think more business than just it's always been a business, though. Yeah, but when you at the level of J. Cole, especially right now, and everything go from 2024 currently, everything had to be very meticulous. Everything had to be very intentional. Everything had to be calculated. Like it was just it was a little different. So I'm not I'm not looking at him. I don't feel like J. Cole will ever be as big as Hove was in 04. I don't think so. All right, Jay-Z was on Hot 97. So stepping aside to move Superman is alive. Like we can still get shit like that from Jay-Z when he was Jay-Z nigga. We could get these niggas getting on the radio, giving us fire, free styles and all that. The top dogs, the greatest of the greatest. And y'all niggas be acting like y'all too good to give a shit like this. Because I mean, it was a while ago. I mean, Cole did. Cole did leakers. Yeah, his free style. I'm not. I heard that she was I. And I'm saying I'm saying though, like you need to give Tom, though, too. Because like niggas is too Batman-ish with this shit, man. But that was always a marketing plan to anytime Hove went up to to flex or was bringing someone it wasn't for the love of the game. Random. It was for an intention of something that we're doing. It was a tool and that tool isn't the way it was before when it comes to rappers like J. Cole. Of course, it's great when Drake goes to on the radar. I love that type of shit. I love when rappers that are that established do that. But it's not the tool it was before where you got to get your whole crew up to the radio because we need to hear all them rap because we're about to put something out. It's like when when people like Cole or Drake do that, that's actually because they love the sport. Like that's not really the biggest marketing plan on earth. Like Drake didn't need to do the on the radar shit. He did it because he likes that platform and wanted to rap with Central Sea and like that shit. The look for Central Sea. Cole loves I'm sure the LA Leaker shit was like, I got to get up there. Cole didn't need to do that. But J needed to go to flex as a marketing plan. He needed to. It was different. You had to go up and radio was controlling everything. So you have to go up there. And you got to make a moment like you got it has to be a thing when you go up there, but I got my man's that could rap to people calling in like it's a thing. You know, I'm saying what I'm saying is this, right? If everybody's saying like. Rap was better. When shit like this was going on. Why do you why? Why getting this old ass hard and right around like you want some throwback shit, but you ain't doing the throwback shit. But could Joey Badass has said this if J Cole would have got the Dreamville niggas together and pack the sprint van and went to New York City like your flex about to fuck this shit up a bit. No, but see, could he have said that though? All right, but what this is my last quote unquote last album. Why can't I make it about me? The only the only thing the only thing when when album didn't you make about you, J Cole, it's his fucking album. Did you make about you? Yeah, but that's what Zipp is saying. Like, which album didn't you make about you? When is it not? You said the revenge of the nurse should we get all I so he does make way for the guys that he has, you know, under his umbrella and things like that. But what Zipp is saying is if you the top dog or you think you the top dog, and you have this certain, you know, aesthetic you trying to keep, like, you know, we taking it back old school, we really hitting the streets and all that, why you ain't got your team? Which why you ain't given them that look done that before? Why does he have to do it every time? This is my last album. I want to make this about me. I get that too. Like I get that too. If it's the middle of your career. Yeah, like if you want to start a label and take take on that responsibility. Yeah, you should pack the whole sprint van with all of Dreamville, which he's done every single Dreamville Fest. Mm hmm. You could you could have a thousand streams. If you're signed to Dreamville, you are on a main stage. Yeah. And on top of that, when Cole close, I mean, I was home. So he brings he brings all of Dreamville on stage with him for half the set. I'm like that. And for that, I understand that's that's the first their festival. All right. His biggest first single. He's on Shade by the Baby. Like he did his why you have to do that every single time. I'm not saying every time. I'm just saying that J.I.D. had a very successful year. He had a lot of energy around surround his last his last project he just put out. I'm just saying, I think we could have found we could have hit Spacebar somewhere on the mixtape form is all I'm saying. I think we could have found somewhere we could have found a loop somewhere on on on the what was the name of the mixtape. It was called birthday. It was his birthday, man. So for your birthday, you don't invite none of the home. It's me and J.I.D. Don't get to blow the candles out. It's my mother fucking birthday. I'm the only one blowing the candles. Because I don't want you are not blowing out our birthday candles together. I don't want you to blow out J.I.D. Close candles. It's his birthday. I don't even want to think about that. I'm just saying I feel like Cole could have found somewhere on that birthday blizzard mixtape to let J.I.D. get his shit off. That's all the album. We understand. January 28th. Jizz birthday is on Halloween. Now wait, you have to wait till October. If I put a mixtape out then, then we could do a spooky season together. All right. Just so we can close this, would we find it surprising at all if a year from now we hear Jizz throwing shots at Cole? I just said maybe they don't like each other. OK, yeah. Usually I'm the one that has the terrible conspiracy theories. No, I'm not. It's not a conspiracy theory. I'm saying no way Jizz and J.Cole don't like each other or have a great relationship. I don't think he feels the way either. I'm not saying they don't like each other. But if we hear Jizz write a boss, spit a boss saying like, you know, you want to, you want to, you know, you want to keep me out of that light. You really want me to shine in that moment, which you want me in that hondu. A call. And they ain't got it. It ain't got to be rooted in beef. It's just like, yeah, you ain't want to you want to pass. So I was just not going to. Hondo was from fucking when they started was him and even the Honda driving to Florida from college. Jizz was in in junior high at that time. Guys, so shorty, that's the little nigga in the back. Now, we're leaving. They should pass the weed to me. Your head shorty, which you got spit that shit. I spent my little rounds of shit. Yeah, I think I think it's just, you know, I get it. I'm not saying like all of the big dog niggas is supposed to have the young niggas on the album because that's historically that's how I went. And you supposed to get on the album. A double disc. The J.K. can't get on one. None of that shit and all that boring one song. Let's get to that. That shit was boring. You put out mad boring shout out to Joey Badass for pointing that out. You put out 30 boring song. Now, Jad, Joey Badass said he liked that. He loved that. I don't care what he said about. I'm talking about the Jad. It references. Oh, yeah. OK, you put out 30 boring ass on album. Nobody listened to today and you ain't even put your man on it. You could put your man on it. Maybe niggas would have been listening to that song. How many tracks was it? 24. That nigga. Damn, now see, I thought I was about to get you. Shet version. But I'll put up Jay Z discography and so we didn't put nobody. I'm looking on Blueprint 2. Yeah. And I forgot as well as Memphis Bleak, Beanie, Seal, Freeway, Young Guns, P.D. Christ, Sparks, and Real. Chris on there. They don't smoke the sound with diesel like us. And obviously, somehow, some way. They don't smoke the sound with diesel like us. Kanye was Kanye. But don't act like Jay with some of the artists that he signed later. Not people like Bleak that he grew up with. You got to earn a verse from me. But you got to put some of your own ranges. Yeah. The rain already have songs together. It's for some of my own close album. I'm not saying I don't have songs together. But close album. Oh, how many features does just co have in his whole career on his album? Not much. He will. He needs some. Like it might add some pizzazz. Yeah. And it might add a little sparkle. I'm saying sometimes you need to motherfucking dim the lights and add some ambiance to make the party lit. Just because you got to, you know, I'm saying a ballroom, a big space and DJ equipment, don't mean a party. You're going to be lit. You're not going to keep the room in here. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. And not saying that the streets matter. But I don't think J. Cole is real big in the streets. I think he's like a ballroom. You have to define the streets in 2026. Well, 7-Eleven is the streets, right? The back of 7-Eleven. I think that's what a lot of J. Cole fans hang out. No, they hang out in the store next to that. Where they got the laptop set up. Nah, J. Cole fans is in front of 7-Eleven parking their mom's car, listening to his shit, eating Twizzlers and shit, eating sour straws and... Dabbing, smoking weed out of pipes. No, I'm not saying that it's not. I'm saying, but that's where his fans are. It's those type of fans. They have basements. They don't have crack. They don't have crack in the crack of their ass. Wait, somebody just said they need seven days. Everyone in Queens got a basement. Not everyone. I'm from Queens. I did not have a basement. Not everyone. I know what you mean, though, but not everyone in Queens got a basement. Me and Zip's upbrings were probably a little bit different. Just a little tap, though. I'm just going to let me say you and Zip grew up slightly different. It was a little different. Different parts of Queens, different parts of Queens. Different parts of Queens. A lot of basements over there where I'm at, though. No, around the corner they had basements. Yeah, you didn't want to go in there, though. Where you was at, you didn't want to go in the basements. I'm saying the basement of my building, let me think. You didn't want to go in the basement of your building. I think I've been in the basement of my building maybe one time. I'm not going to even ask you why you was in there. The laundry. Listen, I'm privileged. I don't know. See, look, you just don't do laundry. Why the driveway? The laundry matters down the block. Yeah. On the corner. You don't know whether it's to push a shopping cart or not. I mean, I do. No, you don't. But that's actually when I left my mom's. I had to figure that out. Oh, OK. Yeah, but not. But J. Cole, he, you know, it's not, it's not a street element with J. Cole. Yeah. So like, I don't think J. Cole is an incredible MCs, incredible rapper, incredible artists. Small niggas like. Fan bases just look like. Small niggas, small. You got to have some like. But I mean, smart, smart, smart cats like a lot of, like Jada, like Fab. J. Cole is like Seinfeld to me. You had to have some level of intelligence to understand that shit. OK. You just not, it's not for the like, the layman. OK. All right. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but you just identifying his fan base. Yeah, like. I agree and don't agree. All right. Jid got what? Jid is George Costanza. Everybody likes him. No, he Cray Kramer. He next door and that they can't stand. Word. No, I think Seinfeld and people say this about Cole. I don't believe this about Cole. Why that is actually good analogy. People think Seinfeld. That show is is it's not as smart as people think it is. Very dull. Like it's really not. They're like, oh, it's just it's too intelligent. You have to be a certain type. No, you don't. It's just not that funny. That shit was hilarious to me. What are you bugging? You thought Seinfeld was hilarious? Hell yeah. I like Seinfeld like my mom watched Seinfeld every day. I grew up on Seinfeld. First of all, let me give this all. It's just not as great as people say it really is. It's really not. I'm going to say some bullshit. No, real shit, real shit, real shit. I beat a body on you. I beat a body. This is real shit. You're worried about me, right? I beat a body, right? I can't hold my grandmother saying, yo, you got to come in the house at 10 o'clock. I look at that lady, man. I want to say I just beat a motherfucking body. What can you talk about coming out at 10 o'clock? I couldn't say nothing. I had to come out at 10 o'clock. She was trying to get the street seat. Yeah, thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you. I said, text me. I said, get this man. It's off the block. She said, yo, she said, yo, she said, yo, you got to come in the house at 10 o'clock. I look at it. I think I'm growing out. I just beat a body. Again. Yeah, I'm outside. That was your bar mitzvah? Yeah. 10 o'clock? Yeah. I said, I get it. I was like, I ain't mad. I was so fucking mad. Hey, y'all used to, hey, every day, every day, I shut it down at the same time, like 9.45. I start counting my money, cleaning it up and all. I be looking around and all. We want to make niggas go in the house. Like, corny ass niggas out here. I got a go in the house. Yeah, I got a go in the house. These niggas get to stay outside. Yeah, I learned them all. That shit was crazy. I used to, I looked. I go in the house. I watch the news. Yeah. And then I used to watch Soundfell after that. Yeah. After Terraria. After Terraria in the community for about 12 months. I'm going up right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ain't no time limit on that. I'm going up 5, 6. Yeah, I'm out of here. What's the deal with selling crack? I'm out of here. I'm definitely not. Is it big? You know what they say? Staying high to 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock? Oh, I'm not me. Yeah, no, no. I've seen everything. I got to be in there 10. Yeah, I've seen everything. Yeah, I'm about to go to work. Yeah, yeah. Everybody, I've seen everything. I've seen everything happening to us. Yo, that is so... And then at 10 o'clock, I got to go to... I got to take it up. I got to take it inside. Yo, but that is such a hood thing. Like, no matter what niggas was doing in the streets, how fed niggas was, Terraria. And if Granny said something, that was law. Get your ass upstairs. 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock. Yeah, niggas. Getting the house. I'm 16. Yeah. You got to be in the house at 10 o'clock. Did you have... Granny had the latch on the door? Nah, you got to get home before that latch. Nah, you had your kid... Grandma will come down the block. With the long coat. Grandma will come down the block. Grandma came down that block mad time. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Just like that. Come on. Wrap all this up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only time she's gonna have niggas rolling dice. She'll say she's going to the store. When she come out, it's time to roll. No, she's... She knows. She's gonna look at you. She's... You know. You got your time to do that. What time is the niggas looking at his wheel? Turn the clock. You be like, oh, that's no wonder. She front, like she got to get something from the store. She don't need nothing from the store. She was coming in and all that. Yeah, but she see you at the dice, and she'll let that go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But other than that, it's time to roll. Pack it up. I'm still crying. That Zipton realized after you beat a body at 16 that you got to go home when the street lights is on. Turn the clock. You know the shit? I've done that in so many schools that my mom was like, nah, you can't go outside anymore. Gotta wrap it up. Turn the clock. You look at it gray like this. What I do. That... Oh, my God. You know why? In the... Yo, look, this the L shit. When I caught the body, I had to be in the house at 10 o'clock. When you... Right? Curf, you should have been earlier for everyone's shit. Yo, look, no, it's summertime. It's July. Like, July, now it's six. Look, boom. So, it's summertime and shit. No niggas outside. Listen to that. Nah, shit. That shit just came out. 96? Yeah. It was written, it just came out. So, the shit happened, boom. So, what happened was when I went upstairs, she said, yo, you want to go back outside? I said, yeah. Hell, yeah. Let's go. I went back out there and caught a body. See? See? See? She wasn't going for that shit, though, boy. Yeah, no, we never know more. You want to go back outside? No, no, no, no, no. 10 o'clock. You got to be at that 10 o'clock. No, I'm just... You remember the last time what happened? She ain't got to say that shit. No, I ain't... Alright, man. Niggas be scared of the grandmother. I was scared to death of my grandmother. My grandmother had the big arms. Yeah. You're supposed to be. Your back hand was mad fast. You would never see it coming. You had a back hand like Marty Supreme. Son, you would never see that shit coming. Like, you see, like, she don't talk with her hands or nothing. Yeah. You just never saw that shit coming next to you, you know, your teeth and all that lips and... Nose ring. Shit out of you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Pop, fire. Yo, imagine your grandmother poppin' you. You just beat a body like you outside laying the game down. Niggas. I think she was like pretty liberal and nice to give you a 10 p.m. curfew after beating her body. Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. The minutes go, I fucked up at 16. Like, nah, you not going outside anymore. Oh, shit. I feel like we all lived the same life somehow, man. That shit is funny. Definitely not that one. Definitely not that. Like, definitely not that. But being scared of your grandmother, you're... Yo, that's a real thing, man. Get your ass in the house. All of my exes, it was the funniest story of reading somebody's paperwork in jail. That's whose grandmother should have had them in at 6 p.m. that she was talking about. Who? When you looked at homies paperwork and saw what the... Oh, so look, right? So me and my man, me and my man Vito from the same school, right? So me and my man, me and my man Vito from Prokipce, right? We talking about some shit on the gate. We trying to out-tuff each other on the gate. So he talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. So this old East New York nigga, he like, yo, Zip, I'm about to send something down there and pull it online there. So I grabbed the line and pull it in and all that shit. Man, heavy. Fuck it's this, man. I was hoping it was some weed. I was on Keep like a shit. Pull it down. Mad legal working shit. So when I pull it out, when I pull it out the envelopes, it's like, you could tell what the nigga wants you to read. Like the nigga got like the folder, red, green, blue and all that he wants you to read certain shit. Open this shit up. I start reading. So the nigga trial minutes. Okay. When they talk to a detective, they question the detective. So they asked the detective. They like, yo, what made you start investigating this such and such for these two homicides? Well, we was already investigating them for 75 hours. What the fuck? I closed that shit. Put that shit in. Let me get it for a while. Act like I'm reading. Act like I'm reading. Call that nigga like I don't let it use. I'm sitting a lot down. Sitting a lot down. All of the line. Yeah. All of the line. Pull it online. You read that. You read everything. I read one page of that. Fuck God. And they can talk about we was for 75. Bitch. He rose the murder rate. 25. That ain't no way to investigate you for 75 and you ain't doing none of them. That don't work. That don't work. Like niggas ain't telling the police is investigating because somebody told him you did that shit. Niggas ain't telling you that 75. And you ain't do nothing. Niggas ain't lying on you like that. I said, yo, I was scared of that nigga. That's my nigga was that nigga was smooth. Raises voice. None of that. I used to get a pound to be scared. Like, yeah, what up, bro? I am about to say my mind is dangerous. I was like, if I read that first page and say investigating for 75, I will close that shit. The less I know, the better. Yeah. I would send that shit back up. I think you got a shot of beating it. I ain't want to rip no envelope. I was fucked up. Why that shit perfect? The nigga that I was downstairs talking to, right? I said, yo, son, come here. I said, yo son, pull up on me. He like, yo, what up? I said, yo, son. I said, that nigga's a killer. I said, we can't fuck with that. I said, yo, we can't fuck with that. They go, unless we was talking about a ball, nothing straight up. We will be 76 or something. I ain't no catching that. I don't have no plans on ever like, yeah, he got me. He got me. He got me. He's gonna let me go to the Marines. Fuck, they gonna let me go to the Marines. When I get out of here, that's the only way I can catch that shit. Nigga, fuck out of here. Yeah, let's leave him alone, man. I'm not taking the weave from this nigga. Because I always pay on time. Yeah, I always pay on time. Yo, you know I got, nah, nah, I got some shit from what's the name of the movie? Yeah, yo, hollabby. I should have never let me read that. Oh my God. There's no way you could get to 75 for good reasons. Like, somebody was going on out here. I don't care what was going on out here. To get to 75. That's what you're supposed to be fucked up though. Yo, if nigga could look that, the number, they used to be having 150, 170 murders and shit like that. A year in Eastern New York, just one neighborhood. Right. Like now in New York City, it'd be 400, 500 murders a year. One neighborhood, they used to be having 150, 170 for our murders. The nigga said we was investigating him for 75. So shit, he's doing about 70 years. A year. Listen, he wanted them. He wanted them ones going crazy out here. Like they had to pull the niggas. Yo, man. So I worried about the audio, the rest of the piece, the nigga Puzzle. The nigga, Koogy Rap, made a song. He mentioned something in the verse. And I'm saying, I remember Puzzle was in my hood telling me he killed 10 people. Like I killed 10 people. Like we used to be the news little niggas looking up this nigga. Like you lying nigga, nigga had the rusty Mac like nigga, I'm not lying. I haven't thrown this thing away yet. That nigga had the rusty Mac nigga, I'm not lying. Yeah. He died. He got killed. And I'm saying a long time ago, I don't know who did that. I don't know who did that. I don't know who did that. I don't know who did that. I don't know who did that. I don't know who did that. And talking about he killed 10 niggas. The niggas from East New York. I'll say that's a light number. Yeah, homie, you listen to the line there. Yeah, that's the start of that. No, like he tell you about Puzzle. Like he told me about Puzzle. Like, oh no, I know for a fact he got more than that. Like when you was with him, like, oh, yeah, maybe I had 10 then. Like I ain't gonna lie that group of niggas before us. Oh, yeah, no, it was different. The 80s? It wasn't the camera. Not the niggas born in the 80s. No, the niggas born in 75s. That was outside in the 80s. 76, that was outside, bro. 14, 15, and 88. Yeah, it was different. Man. It was different. There was a little nigga named Shorty from my hood. He wasn't from my hood. He was from 40 projects. He came to my hood. And they could shot everybody, bro. That nigga shot everybody, bro. The nigga shot Mike. He shot Mike. He tried to shoot Bill one time. He shot Bill Duck. Bill was the fastest nigga in the world. Nigga Bill ducked a bullet. Nigga fast. Nigga faster than Leroy. Leroy caught the shit with his teeth. Bill ducked. And gotta wait. Word to mother nigga in the Big Apple. You know, they turn that shit into Crown Fry later. And Kenny cry, but it was called the Big Apple. Nigga Shorty, nigga Shorty tried to buck the nigga Bill. Nigga Bill, ducked that shit. Got up out of there on that nigga. But he shot everybody, you know. He shot one of my mans in the ass. Shot Mike Mike in the foot. Nigga was shooting everybody. It's a marksman. Like 14. Yeah. He was like 14, 15, he was shooting everybody. Another little nigga from my hood put him down. It's always like that though. I feel like the ones that be outside, it's always like the most random, young. No, not a random, nothing. I was doing the same kind of shit. When he got him, was waiting for him. Oh my God. That shit was crazy. I ain't gonna lie. They be saying that shit, man. I don't care what nobody say that that violence. Shit they be talking about these days. This shit is a good place to raise kids, man. That's what we went through. Yeah, it's different though. I mean, it's still a lot of shit going on. Random, unnecessary shit. Yeah, but I tell people all the time. No comparison. It's New York wise. New York wise. Everyone else is a fucking night. No, New York in the 80s. I tell people all the time. I vividly remember seeing shit that now I'm just like, y'all have no idea what this block y'all standing on used to look like in 87. In 88, 89. Like, you wouldn't want to be standing over here. Like, it was abandoned buildings everywhere. So 10 year old kids don't go to the store by themselves, bro? No more. No. I was 6. They used to just throw the chains here. Go give me some cigarettes. Yeah. You just go get a shit to the Spanish nigga. Yo, my mother's thinking of some cigarettes. You know your mom, yeah, you know your mom. She'd give you whatever. You smoke one in the hallway. Take the racks upstairs. Yeah, that's how I was. 6. This is first grade. You were smoking at 6? First grade. Niggas didn't smoke half of the cigarette. Get that shit to your man. Come back down and shit his brain. Yeah, we out. Smoking cigarettes at 6 is crazy. Absolutely insane. Son, this is what's going on. No, 100%. Niggas used to take the, you know how they used to come through with the coupons, put them on the fences and shit, you know? Take those. Niggas in the back, y'all putting leaves in them, rolling up like we smoking weed and all that shit. Burning up a nigga's chest and all that. We actually used to do the exact same thing. Finally, if we found something for our childhood that we can relate to. We can put all the sheets outside. 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He want to add that to it. You ever seen Diddy kick somebody when they was down? I've seen Diddy kick a woman while she was down and out. A little dainty joint. I don't know if I might have the grace to not kick someone when they down when I've watched them kick a woman while they're down. Yeah, you won't want me to do it figuratively or literally. I have figuratively, but literally. I've seen you literally kick a woman when she was down. A little dainty joint when she was down, but we can't kick him when he's down. I don't care about none of that. I think we, it's just too much politically correct talk. I'm not standing tall. Usher say the same shit. No, but even him. Usher used to live with him though. It's a difference. It's a difference between J Cole and Diddy. Yeah, Usher. Diddy have a different life. Usher used to live with him when he was a child. You know what I'm saying? Like something kind of like he helped raise him a little bit. He stayed with him for like a year. That was his mentor. That was his mentor. That's a big bro to him. You understand or uncle, whatever. You know what I'm saying? J Cole, you don't have that. relationship with Diddy. I mean, maybe optics of like, it may look like I'm conveniently putting this episode out during the Diddy thing, but that's not how Cole worded it. He worded it as if, oh, everyone was piling on. I didn't want to kick him up. You didn't want to add to that. Add to it as, but I could see the point of like, so what that means. I feel like this would look like weird time. Like the way we talk, we talk five times a week. If Cole's put on a podcast episode right around that time, it could look exploitive. Like, okay, this is weird, but that's not what he said. So he just said he wanted to kick him while he's down. Okay. So when would be the right time to do it? When is it not going to look like he kicking because he's going to be down forever now after this. I don't, I mean, the world we live in, I don't think Puff is going to be down. Unfortunately, I just don't think that nobody cares. Clearly, clearly back from the, and J Cole is, is the, the compass of morality in the hip hop game. It's not like, no, I, I wanted to protect Diddy. No, I don't think, I don't, I'm saying like, I so boom, but I protect. I'm not saying Diddy's not going to keep getting money. Right. I think he's going to get money, but a lot of shit that was going on is not going to be able to go on. That girl got on stand and say, he like mayonnaise rubbed on his nipples. And then one said, come, like I'm not like, man, it's weird. It's this man. Like, you don't say, I'm like, King's the King, but the com, it's the com shit. That's what I'm saying. It was like, that's what I'm saying. That's what he's saying. I just didn't want to say come. Because they said Diddy had a lot of things rubbed. I wasn't sure if he was actually saying, no, it was, I'm saying, like, you are another nigga, like another nigga busting your bra. You want to take it out and put it on your chest? Like no niggas looking at you the same now. Like me, like niggas might have thought you was freaky before. Like, oh, they heard some shit. But now we heard the specifics. And that nigga looking at you like, let me ask you this. I said, nobody cares. All right. You think it's over for Diddy based off that more than all of us watching him kick a woman. Yes. That's fucked up. I think you think, but I agree with you. That's how society, I think society thinks it's crazy that he likes to come on his nipples than kicking a woman. My thing is the reason why I didn't care about people paling on with Diddy is because I've seen him kicking a bra. Like it was like once you like, like, like, like, I know mad niggas that have fights with girls. I don't fuck with niggas. And I'm saying once I know you be beating shorties up in the, I don't fuck with you homie. I don't want nothing to do with you. Right. We watched this nigga do that. Then he catch a case and they say he was doing all this nasty shit, all this nasty shit coming out of the child, man, baby, all you shit. And they say, when it tapes, maybe that's why everybody's sticking up for Diddy because they ain't put them tapes out. Yeah. They said it was tapes. Yeah. They said it was cameras everywhere. And no tapes came out. So maybe he still got them tapes. Maybe they said you could keep your tapes. He never wrote. And everybody like, yo, I got nothing bad to say about Diddy. So the fans put the fucking tapes out. The fans put the tapes out and yours ain't dead. It ain't exhibit C. Oh, yo, fuck that nigga. Now I'm saying that's what they, that's what they waiting for. I don't get it. Yeah. I just think that like, Diddy will be home relatively soon. And I think he's watching all of this shit. And I don't think there's anything with Cole in that regard, but, and I don't want to put anything on usher either. I don't want to like make accusations with no proof or anything. But I could see if I did some freaky shit with Diddy that I didn't want out and it's time for me to sit down. And I know he's in jail with nothing but time. I might, I might watch my words and what I say about somebody and they ask for shit on me. If you feel like you're cloudy, you got some shit in there. Yeah. But the ones that know that they ain't got, but those are the ones, the 50s where they feel like that ain't nothing on them. Whatever. But that's what people don't understand in my 50 why he could talk like that is because he knows like, bro, I don't got nothing. I don't got nothing on me. Like that ain't, that ain't who I am. I ain't got that on my jacket. And like, again, I don't want to push it on usher. But everything usher said on the first bar, I agree. Of course we, I don't need usher or anyone else to tell us that Diddy is an icon and it's changed. Music changed everything. I got never heard of a remix until puff. I don't need usher to say that and then be like, well, that's why I'm not saying, all right, but you could say you watched him literally punt a woman in a hallway. Like, what does one have to do with the other? Right. It's fucked that. Of course we know he's an icon. Do I need to tell you that ignition remix is incredible? No. He also fucked kids. Right. That's where I'm lost with this whole usher. I don't get those points. Yeah, but somebody, I get it. Yes. Usher like puff has done amazing things for you and for other people. I'm not saying puff has not done good things. It is like, right. But once you see that, once we see that, why can't you just be like, well, nah, still like, what the fuck? No. Yeah. Like once you see that, you can be my mentor as a kid and I'm a grown man now and I see you doing something, but like kicking a woman. I'm going to be like, yo, that's absolutely fucking. But I'm going to say this though, right? I'm going to say this, right? Usher got a relationship with Diddy that niggas don't got. So now he could have been like, yo, what was going on then? Yo, bro, that's the day I found out she gave me that wasn't it? Or that's the day. Like, I called a thousand in that bag trying to run out that hotel room or we don't know. You know what I'm saying? Whatever it is though, if you grab her, you can't say whatever it is. Listen, what's I'm saying? So she burnt you. What if she burnt them? Where she slipped them the package? Well, my thing is, my thing is you still kicking the while she's on the floor though. You grabbing the throne on the floor. You know, like, okay, if you send it, let's say the situation is what you say, any man would lose his mind and go, you don't know what you'll do. Right. But what I'm saying is, what is that going to do though? At that point, you grab her to the ground, you saying to yourself, you just gave me some shit that I can't get rid of for the rest of my I got had a shit for the rest of my life. Incredible hole. Everything that every every every make me mad. In that case, in that case, maybe I kind of like, you understand what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. But if it ain't something like, but if it ain't that is just you trying to leave and you doing that. Some slick to you and you mad. You a bitch ass. But yeah, right. It's some shot since you happening in the hood. Like I know a broad to 80,000 from a nigga. Yeah. Game with her brother. Right. Right. Yeah, you can expect that if he was to run into her, if they would have found her in a trunk. Well, yeah, it's warranted. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, absolutely. This nigga stood out here all these days. Don't we don't whatever risk is free. No, no, what he did to get this money? Right. And you gonna get that shit to your brother? Right. No, I get it. You understand what I'm saying? So we if I we just like that, we just saw him starboard out in the hood. I can't understand that you understand. So but from the looks of it, it looked like she just was trying to leave. Right. You know what I'm saying? She just was trying to leave and you wasn't trying to let her leave and you put hands and feet on her. And that's corny. Jack in that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Then we hear all these stories about you watching you shaking out while another niggas is drilling and all that. That's nasty. Like we don't like I'm not like once you got a case against ladies, once it's a case against ladies. Yeah. And we don't give a fuck. Ain't no yo you would yo, yo, that nigga snitched on that nigga. What he did? Yo, I know he used to be beating up his girl and his kids and shit. Yo, call the police that niggas a rat. No, he ain't no rat. You ain't gonna get me to call that nigga no rat. You know what I'm saying? Would you to call the police? No. Right. But I had to tell my bitch. Yeah. I know she was gonna call. No, I'm saying respectfully. I ain't calling the police or no. You steal my car. I got a reported stolen. You know what I'm saying? But just to be called. I ain't calling police. You fuck what I know. I'll tell it to a bitch. I know what the bitch is going to do. Right. That's hilarious. I get it. All right. Before again, before we get out here, new music that's out right now. Maybe we're recording this Thursday night. Maybe Kanye West bully is out. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think we get bullied tonight. He already pushed back all the listening sessions because his own team put out a message that all the listening sessions tonight are canceled because he hates the master. So I don't think we have bully right now. If you're listening to this, I don't think bullies here. No, it's not happening. But I mean, yeet. That's your favorite artist. Shut up. Yeet. ADL. It's your choice. Okay. Listen, man, I'm gonna say that for my own, my own podcast. I'm gonna start some, some paywall shit that's not to make money, but you have to pay a lot to get you can't cancel me on my thoughts for certain things. Oh, I wish I could just interesting songs, interesting album title. Interesting. Let's just leave it at that. Very interesting. What she's real name. No, I don't think you're the next album. You're the next album. You're a beat. Noah Olivier Smith. Okay. Olivia Smith. Noah Olivier. Oh, good man. Um, uh, congrats to Fetty. Everything Fetty went through that I don't think he deserved whatsoever. I think that entire case is bullshit. Um, and I think it's awful that he had to do the time that he did. So I'm, this album could stink and I'm still here to support. I mentioned everything that he does. I'm not saying or think it's going to be bad, but it's tough to, he has an old album coming out right now. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's quick. It's really quick. I feel like I'm gonna say this, right? As a nigga that did Mad Tom and Jill came home, he didn't do a lot of time in jail. And I'm saying so he probably was like a Ray Brooker, one of these shit's close to where he from. You know what I'm saying? Probably wasn't that far away. He was, he was here. Right. So it was in New York. I think he was in the actual feds. I don't think he was in the New York. So like Ray Brook or oldest veils, the New York, that's the fed spots in New York. So I'm saying like he probably could have had a post on what was going on. But even when people telling you was, you imagine them was happening in the streets. Like they could tell you like, they could tell you your best friend did something and you have to imagine the shit. You ain't see it. You got to imagine the shit. Five people could tell you the story. You still have to imagine in your brain. What happened? You understand what I'm saying? What I'm saying? What I'm saying is that you had to imagine that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine what you had to imagine. What I'm saying is that you had to imagine. sound fire because I'm gonna tell you how to have it look they on the dinner and in a dorm or or or cell block it's mad bloods then okay they're gonna cheer you on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah they can spit that trash and it's like whoa and nigga this shit is fire for ten years meanwhile yeah that ain't what they do all the new to make it a cell light now I'm saying yeah so now when you see these niggas on the internet like yeah you like nigga what the fuck like why would you be thinking you get it in right now he was in jail with the homies and they got him feeling like he nice I'm telling you yeah it'd be like that yeah I'm neutral I'd still be like yo that's crazy you don't even know she said these banging on the walls and all I he thought he just got busy so much stuff to rhyme with Mac baller you killing that oh my god man I am looking forward to the store garden Swiss beats album all this for me same how you feel about stone like so I gotta start listening to store more man because I'm fucking with these upstate niggas man you know they selling mad drugs in the music and they seem like they don't need niggas that's consistent I think you're like you need to listen to reasonable drought and reasonable drought is you know what was up Stoker I might have heard it man I'm telling you I don't really like he got some shit he got some shit on the Fuego bass shit that yeah I was on that shit I like Fuego too though he got some shit I'm plugged in yeah super duper plugged in now you got listen reasonable drought though that's still to me that's a classic mix tape yeah I was gonna say it's probably the last classic mix tape that I could think of I mean I know I guess it's a mix tape to me yeah it's a classic mix tape rock Marci executive produced yeah you like rock Marci I love rock Marci I'm not a real big rock Marci fan why not I just I'm not have you like really like listen to them yeah yeah hey but what don't you like about is it the music is it the rhymes it's like it ain't my I don't know it should seem like a little like I don't really know how to put it but it ain't you got you got a really like no I really I really did because I listen because niggas are saying rock Marci oh I listen to rock Marci rock Marci his man arrow from Long Island or something right long I'm off mm-hmm ever from all of you fuck he fire shoot the best friend I don't fuck with arrow like that never mind they nice I ain't saying I ain't saying one of the best things in the city right now like you know that's that oh he round like a real 90s nigga like that's that that's that flow he's fire niggas in the same I mean I don't know what your purse issues like ball for ball in New York I just he better than shooter I think so yeah that's ill yeah they like best friends it's it's arrows it's his flow I love his flow like it's that it's the it be everywhere sometimes but I but but it's it's it if you just listen in it kind of feels like it's everywhere but it's not though it's not I know what you mean by that because like if you first listen to it it's like it's like he's not he off the out the pocket a little bit but he's not though he just on a different downbeat like he not on the the nicest in the city he's one of them to me arrow yeah he's one of them he's one of the best niggas in New York right now for sure make songs he can make songs I'm just talking skill straight rapping I'm just gonna rap and like if you don't you he's better than dog you I'm gonna say yes I'll fuck with dog that's dog you is nice fuck with dog if my son could make songs better if he can make better so I don't make better songs and just give him to him but okay do that okay you know what it is I think Errol say some shit like dawn is nice and he gonna be like yo he smoked that but ever gonna say some shit make you think about it and you go it's the type of shit that you'll see you'll repeat like the next day like you know the niggas say like he said to me that's the difference in error it's like you're gonna you're gonna walk away from listening to him and you're gonna repeat what he said or you gonna like revisit what he said in your head more than what dawn said but you're gonna know dawn is nice you hear dog you rap you know that niggas nice but Errol just got a way of saying shit it's the way he say shit that's gonna I think live with you a little longer just happen with it though I know who that is like niggas put me on the sun niggas put me on the sun they told me that was they told me that was shoot a best friend growing up and shit and I'm saying you know I was locked up with shooting yeah I'm saying shout the shoot punch my man I'm sorry mad ciphers with that nigga growing up and shit you know I'm saying yeah and I mean so I passed him a son he nice yeah I'm sure I'll fuck with you see like me person I think it could be nice but I don't be listening to that shit though no same I'm saying like I'm not like it ain't my back that same same 100% I totally get it to be a lot of shit like that I'd be like there's a lot of shit like that going on right like I'm telling you the niggas selling drugs maybe you ain't selling drugs I don't really want to hear that shit right now like yes he's just hope stove gonna be a guy yeah no flames not my league homey okay like flames yeah you don't fuck with that I do yeah I like friends it's not something I don't know what I'm playing this but listen to better music though so it makes way better music and it's the music flame but yeah now it's still makes all the wrongs you make better songs yeah I'm saying I'm saying right like melodic shit I don't do melodic shit like like for instance right stove said talk to the plug Monday came off Friday to me a hundred off I need a hundred off right mm-hmm you find a hundred niggas in the hood out of them hundred niggas none of them niggas had a hundred you find a hundred niggas in the hood not a not one of the niggas had a hundred flames Dominic said what you doing sitting in my bagging up some beta sitting in my whip crack on my hands I can't hit the blunt they put it to my lips I did this it's a big difference you know what I'm back in the pack you can relate yeah you can't touch that blood all that ball all the ball like all the bullshit I did that yeah yeah the hundred I'm saying yeah send me a hundred of them yeah it's more relatable is this we yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah not good it's more it's way more relatable I get what you said I get what you say and it's like I'm saying like I just but that don't mean it's the link hard though like just because you I'm saying you could identify and relate to it more because that's something yeah identify what I get it like that nigga playing everything you know I like him he talked about that I like that yeah that night so but Stove God and him in Fuego basses the plainest nigga was hard shout out to play and they talking that shit yeah he definitely talking Stove God Swiss beats all this for me I'm looking forward to this joint I'm gonna check it out though yeah gotta check that out that's me my first click I'm gonna stay up for the Stove God shit I'm excited for this yeah I'm gonna hit it and my sister Jossie she's putting out her album soundtrack to get her back she's Jossie that's um you know how you have like sisters in Christ she's my sister in toxicity okay nobody's more toxic than than Jossie even though she I'm she's actually gonna come up next week okay she's one of the coolest chicks ever she's a sniper you think young amazing sniper yes sniper don't put Jossie out there like that Jossie's a sweetheart man she's a sweetheart we go put Jossie business out there like that we gonna do that we gonna talk to her but Jossie is super talented one of the best pins in the game she's saying yeah she sings yeah she was I I hate with the puff shit that happened outside of the obvious was the last album was incredible like she smoked that whole project yeah but even her project that she put out though oh yeah that was that was to me was one of the best projects that year that she put up absolutely um so yeah I'm excited to have Jossie up here next week but yeah we out here we'll see y'all on Saturday actually Saturday in New York City if you're in New York Cafe called motto 286 broom Street come kick with us one to six we'll be there selling some merch talk you coming through coffee fives perhaps you got you got you got a monitor the playlist that uh that you sent over to Ryan yeah you gotta just stand outside with all he got to do is his shuffle on that shit as long as the crowd is a New York Century crowd he gonna be good money Ryan doesn't know his intern hazing yet he's gonna have to babysit my daughter for five hours he doesn't he has he does not know that you man he doesn't know that he's he's she's three she's like a terror three she's not like a regular three five hours I would tell you I would tell you like I don't know 10 years older than her he's a genie he's gonna be doing that back that backyard behind the cafe and just figure out things to do with the mara she's gonna say chase me for six hours with him oh my god but either way if you're the city come by come check us out cafe commando 286 man we'll be there for a few hours one to six having fun this Saturday so um yeah if you're in the city we'll see you then if not we'll talk to you soon be safe be blessed I'm that nigga he's a ginger that's Netflix zip let's get to that this is an I heart podcast guaranteed human