25W: Eddie's Issue with His Kids Basketball Practice on Super Bowl Sunday + Bo Jackson Tells the Story of the Time He Ran a 4.1 40-yard Dash + It Was a Rough Week to be a Patriots Fan

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. This is a podcast called 25 whistles talking football and they are we're a whist so yet stupid. But why did you expect it to podcast called 25 whistles. You're welcome with the show, hit it. Sorry Kevin. That's a game. Sorry Kevin. Thanks guys. I'm a fan. I can't even imagine not being a fan of the teams. That's a brutal one to watch. Well we had money on it too. We had our team league in which by the way your bill comes to do maybe today. You're going to send a text like how's that? We don't. Venmo or just. Can I write a check? No thanks though. Can I pay in like quarterly? I missed every bet last night too. Same. I got a lot of contracts to cover plus four and a half and then I jumped back in for another 500 and it was plus five and a half and then it was just like I'm stopping. What was the most points you got? Five and a half. I got eight. No I stopped. And I thought eight would cover it. Yeah they showed no I mean I guess a little bit of life and a third early fourth but that was it. They really want that kind of a team right? The Patriots? No man. What I kept thinking and I'm sorry Kevin you're not going to want to hear this bro. I just kept thinking like well should have been the Broncos. Better defense. It's just just what I was thinking. Yeah our defense is really good. I know. Our offense is really bad. It sucks. I'm sorry. Yeah that's alright. I mean I'm happy we were there for sure. Obviously we did not expect that at all. So expectations were pretty I don't know. Not necessarily low coming in but like if we win great the only thing that. The part that makes me sad and that sucks is like there was no fight. To lose is one thing but to like I think I yelled one time outside of like yelling bad things but one good thing. And that was it. So that's when they were down two scores or before they do that pick I thought okay we might make this into something. And mostly I thought maybe we can cover. Yeah cover was what I was rooting for. Something dude. I need a break. Yeah but you know what March Madness is just around the corner. Yeah maybe it'd be better for me there but. Not a bad 2025 slash early 2026 for sure is one of my worst ever. Yeah it's pretty bad one for the books. Kevin at what point during the game did you think like is is done. When they scored the touchdown. They used wide open that was after the fumble I believe and I was like oh no. You didn't think in the first half where they couldn't score at all like they couldn't even get first down. They kind of did this all playoff so where it's like they didn't look great on offense and then the second half they look a lot better so like they're just going to take some time. Drake Malix nervous Josh McDaniel's I don't know what the heck that game plan was but it was just very basic and boring. They didn't change anything up so I was like okay I'm just going to give it till the second half. And as long as there's some way didn't they were down nine nothing I felt good I was like I can't believe we're only down nine. That game felt like it was 50 to nothing. And half time I still felt like you had a shot because we're only down nine and a half. Exactly. The bad game though my wife was like this game sucks. Yeah. She really wanted to watch half time show anyway. She's the second half. No she went in and watched tell me lies or something on Netflix. And I'm going to do it here that much anyway but if it had been close she would have stayed she's like it's going to take a while. You know you're talking about UFC like you never watch UFC but then you like the one you watch is too bad as a bad fight two girls. So my wife never watches full games and she was just like I'm going to watch this full game. I'm just like why is this the game. Did she stay with it? She did she was the entire game and she was like that's pretty bad. And there was no like I mean Kenneth Walker had some good plays but outside of that bullseye it was like there's no like big No exciting plays nothing. I was rooting for the kicker to win MVP. Yeah that would have been cool. I mean he was the punter the Dixon had a great game to do that punter was on. But I think the kicker he kicked four or five fill goals I forget what it ended at it was most and fill goal and full history. Yeah five. If there ever was a kicker to win the MVP he scored 15 points he should have won MVP. Do you guys ever vote for that stuff? Have you ever voted for MVP? What do you mean? Where? Online. Yeah they tell you to do the game like to vote for the MVP you know. Oh really? Yeah. Oh I didn't know that was a thing. The Seahawks were a four and a half point favorite and they broke a streak of underdogs winning three straight super balls. Huh. The Patriots were wearing white jerseys and white pants a combination they'd never worn the Super Bowl. Yeah that stuff is. They look nice. The Seahawks were winning nine zero at halftime which means the teams now O and 15 and Super Bowl history win scoreless at the half. The Seahawks only trailed for one minute and 35 seconds the entire postseason. That's the fifth least amount of any time trailing but they only trailed for barely over 90 seconds. Yeah I mean they're obviously the much better team but I think just in general in the NFL they were probably the best team at least second half of the season. Listen to this. The Seahawks are the first Super Bowl champion to go their entire postseason without committing a turnover. Oh wow. Dang that's what Sam Darnold. The Seahawks won 11 and no across the entire season when scoring first. Sam Darnold became the first quarterback to win a Super Bowl after playing for at least five different teams. Wow. He was with Minnesota last year but again obviously they passed on bringing her back. I did like that story. I think I said that if the Patriots didn't win my favorite story to root for was us and money. My second favorite story was Sam Darnold. It's pretty cool. It's for him. Although he wasn't very excited with his performance. I mean he was kind of just like yeah he missed a few throws. But there was a point where it was just up to him not to lose it. Yeah. It wasn't up to him to win it. Yeah and I think he knew that. They won it. Sure did. I'm glad it wasn't there I can tell you that. I thought it was going to be a blowout. I really did. I was like, this is going to be crazy. Maybe the first blowout in two-wheel history. You mean as the game started? I mean Seattle just had control again. Maybe the Seattle Denver 110 years ago. That was 43 to 8. First play was the over a Peyton's head. Just letting you know. Look at Kevin's face. The Peyton Kevin is going through right now. It feels like I'm talking to a dead man. I was just going to be in the middle and watch the Super Bowl without rooting for either team. If you were literally and physically halfway between Seattle and Foxboro Massachusetts, you'd be in Fergus Falls, Minnesota. Oh. Well, shout out Minnesota. I didn't have a team. I just had a team that I bet on. But I again, I mean I lost enough for to suck. But it was cool. I like Sam Donald winning. Yeah. Who are you? Sure. I did see the list of all the quarterbacks that early on in their career went to the Super Bowl and never made it back. It's a bad list. Oh, well. Maybe think about you guys. You think Drake May? Future Fee. Damn, Reno. Damn, Reno was one. Yeah. He was also the youngest quarterback ever to go to a Super Bowl. Which they showed a couple times. Yeah. Drake May was second. I was surprised to see the same Donald was the first USC quarterback to start a Super Bowl. I bet you're right. I didn't see that. They said at the very beginning of the game and I was like, really? Like USC quarterbacks. Carson Palmer, Matt Liner, Mark Sanchez. These are just ones I can think of. Matt Castle. Matt Castle. Matt Castle. Yeah, I'm trying to think of like back in the day even, but no. Caleb Williams. Yeah. Oh, that's true, too. Obviously he hasn't made a Super Bowl, but that's true. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, dude. Sorry about that. Yeah, all good. I hope I get some more online help for sure. And I also hope Drake. I hope this doesn't like stick with him for a while. You knew sucked was will. Well, yeah, he's bad. And they were just harping on it and showing close-ups of him getting dominant on the offensive line. No, no, and I've seen multiple of the day where it's like 14 pressures allowed most in Super Bowl history. Oh my god. So was he not healthy or is he just not good yet? Yeah, I mean, he had his ups and downs this year. Like obviously I watched every game and it's not like our old line was anything great all year. They just had ways of kind of getting around it, I guess, and they got exposed. I mean, four guys Collins worth to talk about it, but four guys got to him with ease. Those tough, man. Were you hoping Drake would run the ball a little more? Yeah, well, we were saying the whole time I was like, get him out of the pocket or something, roll him out. Because he did not look comfortable as soon as they got to him a little bit, he was all over the place, even when he had time. Cardi B had a $1.5 million Super Bowl weekend. So, and also they broke up Cardi B and she spent that much money. They broke up? Yeah, they did, dude. Apparently he was sneaking in an ex-girlfriend into their hotel room. Oh, it's the fun. Well, he was dealing with a grief, you know? Like, they unfollowed each other on socials too. He just had a baby. But he had four babies last year with four different women. Oh, like, we're talking like we know her care. Did you see Kraft up there with her on the stage of the video of that Saturday or Friday night? It was funny. Cardi B secured a VIP suite to watch Defined Diggs play for the New England Patriots Super Bowl 60. She tried to rent two suites for her 100 guests. Unfortunately, she had to split the group half sat in the stands while 40 get the box. So, the breakdown of her $1.5 million a weekend. $725,000 for tickets for 100 friends and family. Wow. $250,000 for private jets to San Francisco for her guests. At that point, I'm like, I'll get you hooked up. You get you stuff out there. Yeah. Like, I'm taking a one-plane with me in it. I'm getting your ticket. $125,000, a private suite for 40 at the Super Bowl. She is. $220,000 in Dom and Hennessey. $133,000 hotel suite in party room. That's from the sun with it. Oh, they had a party room. But that's all I guess. Yeah, that's almost the cheapest thing on the list. That's insane. I did spot her in the bad bunny concert. She was in there with Pedro Pascale and Jessica Alba. Jessica was the only one I saw. I saw Alexa. Alexa. Alexa. What's her name, Mike? Alexa Earl. Yeah, Alexa Earl, thank you. With Tom Brady? No, no. She was out there dancing it. Oh. Oh, the same. I did see her with Tom Brady dancing it, whatever. Tom Brady is just turning into a cheese ball, dude. Yeah. He's just turning into a cheese ball. There's a reason Michael Jordan is still cool to us because he's not out on social media all the time. Yeah. With influencers and... Hey, I'm with you. I agree. The less I see him now, the happier I am. Yeah. Because he was like the coolest because we didn't hate. Because nothing could take him down because he was willing to go. We only knew him as a winner. Yeah. Now he's everywhere. I know. I know. We walked by one of his card stores. Multiple losses for the Patriots this weekend. Yeah. I mean, yeah, overall with the whole Hall of Fame and Brady saying that and all that. Right, Brady being... Yeah, I didn't really find that a big deal though. Are you saying what he's saying? Oh, no, sorry. You're talking about him saying like, oh, I don't have a dog in the fight or no? No, I think the big loss is him with dancing in a club of the Alex Oral. Oh, yeah. Just being all the party is like, great. You can't get it, but man, the reputation's being tarnished. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't care about the other stuff. I understand why he said that he owns, was part under the Raiders and they're hiring the offensive coordinator from Seattle. Yeah. And then the Patriots obviously, I still think he should have said the Patriots. Oh, he wants Super Bulls with the Patriots. This is team. I know. I think if Joe Montana said, well, no, because he was only... Well, he was a chief, I guess, for a little bit. For a second. Just for a little second. Just for a second. He looks. He is old, but he's looking small and old. Yeah. He said, they're like, that's Joe Montana. My wife said, he's a little guy, huh? I said, no, he's just a old man. He used to be tall. I guess when we start hunching over, and we get older. Yeah. They say that our ears and our nose don't stop growing, and then you hunch over. A terrible game. Hey, what happened? Because I saw that the Falcons... Who's the Pierce? Yeah, James Pierce. So what? He was being chased or he was chasing somebody in a car? Yeah. He was his ex-girlfriend WNBA player, Ricky Jackson. Yeah, I'm not. I can't say big on the WNBA scene, except for Caitlyn Clark and I joined the team. Yeah. He was chasing her, he was stalking her, and then he rammed his, I think it was like a Ferrari or something, or Lamborghini into her car multiple times, so she couldn't go to the police station, and then police ended up showing up, and then he ran from the cops, and then hit a cop with his car. Wow. And then... Physically, the human cop? Yeah, he hit like his knee, it said. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's terrible. And then he got arrested. There's a video of him fighting like seven cops, and it's like no one, everyone's like no one has got a 10 and a half sex. Yeah, not good. Yeah, he's out next year. Yeah, not good. And he dropped in the draft because of character stuff. You fight Tennessee? Yeah. Yeah, he's done. And the Falcons were pretty good. Yeah. They got pretty good last year. They had him and the Georgia D. Lyman, both of them had been really good rookie years, and that's not good, man. Eddie's kids had basketball practice on Super Bowl Sunday. Practice? We were talking about this San Francisco. Did they go? No. No, dad had to pull the car and be like, they're not going to. What time was it at? It was from four to five thirty. Oh, shut up. The game starts at five thirty. And there's something else that's out of town. We'd miss the first quarter. Like, it's the dumbest thing ever. And it's basketball. And you know, like, it's six grade basketball. And so I said, no, do you not going to practice? Could you have let him go like four to five and then get back in time? Then pull him out early. That's so obvious to me later today would have practiced leading right up to game time of the Super Bowl. So you're gonna say like maybe like, I don't know, one o'clock. One latest. Let sure chap. Yeah. And one of my boys did. He had an early one like noon to two or something. Perfect. Did you get upset that I missed practice? Nah. Nah, he didn't care. He didn't care. But I just thought that was like, just what do you call it? What do you call it? Tone Death. You know? It's been years and other circumstances. But to me, that's Tone Death. Well, you went to San Francisco. We're gonna play some of these interviews. We have one of Bo Jackson coming up in just a second. But you guys got put together in the same room. Get two beds in the room. Kevin. Yeah. So how'd it go? It was good overall. What do you mean overall? The second night was a little rough for me personally. Why? Cause I didn't know Eddie was such a big snorer. Actually. I'm a snorer. Yeah, dude. Did you notice the second night I slept with white noise on my phone? I noticed you had other white noise. He buss out this all night. And I'm like, what is that? Yeah, cause better. What's the difference we doing? It's relaxing. At least that's constant. It's a line. Your snoring is like. You know I snore? Yes, of course. You're snorer. No one has ever told me that I'm a snorer. Right. No one. Not even your wife. No, what my wife did tell me though. She was like, hey, Kevin, you tell Kevin that you fart all the time in your sleep and I don't fart all the time. Oh, yeah, you do that too. You definitely do that. Honestly, I thought it was just because the first spot we ate, the first night wasn't the best food. And it didn't make my stomach feel great either. So I was like, I'll give him this pass. But is that farting all night? There's at least three or four. Dude, my wife said like, you fart all the time. I'm like, no, I don't. You need to apologize in advance to Kevin, cause- You had air coming out of every hole. You know what though? The farting, it was that first night. Dude, I was coming off a fast. And then we went, the only food we can find was pizza and wings. Yeah, I didn't want any good. So I think that's kind of what did that. But I apologize, Kevin. My wife told me to apologize to you. Oh, for what? For farting. What about the snoring? Well, now I guess I had no idea about the snoring. So I apologize for that too. My brother and dad are bad snores too. So I guess I'm kind of used to it. But yeah, you woke me up I think three times a second night. Let me tell you something Kevin does too, man. He does like a little one night stand action in the morning. Or I wake up and he's just gone for hours. Like every morning I wake up and be like, Kevin, how'd you sleep? Kevin? Kevin? Not there. It's because I'm downstairs working and grabbing coffee. And I don't want to be loud while working and waking up. We're two hours, dude. Yeah. I would text the room. I'd be like, hey, what are you guys doing? And it's like Kevin's still working. Yeah, he's working all night. Yeah, it was a lot. I had to tell Kevin one of the nights to be like, hey, dude, we're going to have dinner. Like let's take a break at 630. So we can't do it. I was working. Yeah, he's like, I don't know. He's got two shows to do over here. Yeah, there's definitely a difference. Misty Mike. Why Mike's always working? Well, no, like usually he handles like a lot of whistle stuff and I can focus on the law of stay, but then I did both of them. But yeah, all good. The dinner was good the second night. And then me, Kevin and Brandon would have breakfast in the morning. And it was kind of, it was like dad hour. You know where we would just talk about parenting and eating our eggs and everything. Every single day, it was kind of fun. Like we would just have a little dad like powwow. Or was I? You were at another hotel. Oh, God, it got it. Yeah, I always take another hotel. They learned a lot about Brandon this weekend too. You always like, hey, it's like, we don't know Brandon. So yeah, everything's new about Brandon. He just keeps dropping stuff like nonchalant. I'll have this YouTube channel thing too. Like what? Like little kid stuff. Yeah, Brandon crushes it. Music by the way. Kids music. Music music. That's a good point. We're going to go over to our conversation now with Bo Jackson, one of the greatest athletes of all time. But when the Heisman in 85, when he played at Auburn, and if I'll probably 90, and we'll be all star game, he won MVP in 89, here he is, Bo Jackson. All right, here with Bo Jackson. We're new at Auburn. Timing was different then, but what do you think you ran the 40? I ran the 40. Electronic. 4.1 seconds. 4.13 seconds. And how? I only... 22. No way. Yes way, but I'm just saying that's unbelievable. I was on my way to track practice. And back then, we didn't have these combines like they got now. That looks like this room. That was just somebody from the NFL, somebody from, I guess, come by in office. And all the players came from Tuscaloosa, North Alabama, South Alabama, Georgia, came into Auburn. Run the 40, then they left. I was on my way to track practice to chase the 1976 Olympic gold medalist in the 100-yard dash, who was Auburn grad, Harvey Glitz. My track coach told me, Bo, if you ever catch or beat Harvey in a race in track practice, you don't have to practice. I never caught him. And he was 13, 14 years older than me. He was in his mid-30s, and I was 21, and I never caught him. Because he was like a McLaren sports car, and I was an 18-wheeler, and I couldn't catch him. So I had to run the 40, the first time I ran the 40, I ran it 426, but I let out bad because from the finish line to the back of the dome, in our place was about 10, 15-yard, and I couldn't stop at the time. So let's say at 35 yards, I just eased up and cruised through at 426. And everybody's like, but he eased up, he didn't run through. And this was a time of stopwatches, but the electronic time where you have to put your hand on the tape and come off and break the laser was 426. Coach comes and get him. God, Bo, please run the 40, try and get these. I don't ever want them calling me again, because they blow my phone up all times a night. Early in the morning, wondering if he's he said, Father, love of God, do it for me, please. I said, alright, give it a go. I said, you need to open that back door, tear up my hamstrings. In that door, it hadn't been opened since I been in Auburn. They opened that back door, moved all the crap, and opened the back door so I can keep going because the track practice was right behind the door. Went back down and got back down. And I took off ran through the laser and kept going. Because I told my teammate, get my bag, and we just gonna go, and I never came back to see. So when I was on my way back, no. Some of the guys came up to the track practice because I'm trying to catch Harvey Glance, which I never did. And they said, do you know what I had you at hand time? As you know, they said I had you at a 394. Another guy, my hand time was 395. Another guy said, I had you at 3-3. And then the guy that's running the electronic timer, he said, they're all wrong. I got you at a 4-1-3 electronic. That's crazy. At 222. But you got into the podcasting world yourself, huh? Just started. Wellness, mental health, physical health. It's a wellness podcast, right? Men's health. Men's all men's, like all down. All men's health. What are you guys talking about over there? I'll tell you exactly what we're talking about. Let me ask you a question. This is for both of you. How many times have you sit down with your buddies and sat down and said, man, but you know something? I had a crappy night's sleep because I woke up four or five times a little back and we'd take a leak. Or this. Man, I can't play golf next week because I got a little bit of colonized. Because I saw some bloody nice two or a couple of weeks ago. So I got to get this thing here. We don't talk about that. I haven't had that conversation yet. We have not. It is taboo for men to talk about that. Now women, they're going national TV. They have groups where they meet at lunch, glass of wine, dip. They talk about mastectomies, cervical cancer, incontinence. They talk about everything. We men talk about ED. Oh hell. No. You're right. No. Because it's embarrassing. What? Every channel you turn on the TV, your iPad, there's an ED ad. Now we can sit there and read about it. Think about it up here. But we don't talk about it amongst men. I want to peel the layers off of that onion to make it comfortable for us to talk about. Because knowledge is power. I'm a cancer survivor as of three weeks ago. Congratulations. I have my prostate taken out in October. You can't do cancer spots on it. Something that I probably could easily treat it. But one thing I do know, cancer and mother nature is undefeated. They don't like to lose. They never lose. The only thing that you can do with cancer, like in my situation, was to cut it out. First thing you think of when you say, oh, you got to take your prostate out. Oh, there goes. My ED problem has got 100 times worse. I'm not going to be able to get laid. That's BS. That's BS. And the reason I'm saying this is because I'm going to take this platform to make it comfortable for guys to go to the doctor to get a PSA test, to go get their colonisers. And don't be afraid of what the doctor is going to tell them. Because a lot of guys don't go to the doctor because they don't want to know. And it goes back to knowledge is power. Use my platform to come to your city. I know I will be a national because I got too many buddies. Man, seminar on. Sit up at an auditorium. Get some of my friends. They have hosted, get their doctors, the professionals who know the answer to every question that the audience got there. Ask, have the audience that's going to be there? All men. We're going to ask you to donate from anywhere from 1 to 10 bucks to come in and sit down and talk. And those funds will stay in Nashville for guys who don't have insurance like us or can't afford to go get a PSA test. Period. Try to help guys to gain knowledge on their health. Instead of sitting up to, oh, I don't know if I got something but this is happening. And it's getting worse and worse. I don't want to go to the doctor because I don't want to find out what it is. Women talk about their issues all day, every day. We never do that. I want to peel the layers off of that, onion, to make it easy for guys to do that. Because I have two grandsons and they're the best gift God has ever given me. And I want to be around to watch them play little league baseball. Watch them ride their first dirt bike. Watch them dive off the diving board for the first time. That's what I live for now. And by me using my platform to spread the message, it's okay to talk about your issues. I hope to put some sunshine in somebody's cloud to make their life a whole lot of these. Because we need to open up and talk. Stop this thinking that if I talk about this, it makes me less of a man. All my buddies are going to look at me like I got cheek in my armor. That doesn't matter. I don't care if I got a cheek in my armor. As long as I'm around to tell somebody, kill, I got a cheek in my armor. I'm tired of burying my friends, going to friends, feeling old. That I went to high school with, college with, played against, played with. And this is on a monthly basis. And the majority of it is because of cancer. Gotta do something about it. Buried a brother-in-law two and a half, three weeks ago. He had prostate cancer. Decided to get radiated five, six years later, came back. And then a two-year period that went from his prostate, bone, liver, long, then brain. He's gone. I got mine taken out and have it look back. Have it miss a stroke. And the one thing that you think, oh, that goes my sex life, that's bull. That's bull. Don't be selfish and do that to your family. Don't do that to your kids. You should want to be around the raise your kids and you can't do it if you fight in the big sea. It's bone nose mental health, right? Bone nose mental. That's awesome. Why would you start doing a podcast? Because there's a consistency to it, because you can constantly get the message out? I can constantly get the message out and I'm speaking from experience. When I was 20 years old, at Auburn, in the prime of my life. Thinking that I'm untouchable, I'm Superman. You get in my way and you're going to get shrunk. No doubt about it. I can do anything I want as far as sports. Wake up one more and go to bathroom. There's blood in my stool. I had my first colonoscopy at 20 or 21. Since then, I've had about 15 or 20. Now that I'm 60, I get it every three years. I don't let a doctor tell me, hey, I'll see you in 10 years. I'm not held in 10 years, but I could grow a grapefruit inside of me. So I go back every day, I just had it last month. So I'm trying to stay upon my health and I want other guys to do the same thing. Because don't be selfish and cheat your family out of that. I really appreciate the time, though. Thank you very much, guys. Thank you, man. I hope you get out of it, what you're aiming to get out of it. I think you'll change a lot of lives. That's what I look to do. Thank you for having me, sir. I appreciate it. We're going to go over now to our talk with current Eagles linebacker, Nicobie Dean. Nicobie won the Bucket's Award in 2021, while playing for Georgia, which is given to the nation's best linebacker. He won a national championship that we're here with the Bulldogs in a Super Bowl last year with the Eagles. So thanks to Nicobie for talking with us. Here he is, Eagle, Nicobie Dean. It's going to be a great time, man. Definitely, a great time. Something I'm always interested in is going from warm weather to cold weather. Because at Georgia, it's pretty warm. It's pretty warm. Yeah. Kind of. And Philly, it's pretty cold. It doesn't seem as fun in the cold. What you're talking about? Just playing in the football. No, football in the cold is fun. That means you made it late in the season and it's probably around playoff time. So at least in Georgia, down South, because it gets colder a little later. It was a privilege to play in the cold. That means you made it to the playoffs. And I grew up, it was like in Mississippi, you played in the cold. That means you're playing late. So it's cool. I mean, it's football. So it's just a profession. So when you're playing in the cold, it don't matter. You don't even feel it. What was the change like with Philly fans? I mean, you got a fan base who probably the most passionate fan base. There is. Now let you know, I mean, I remember my rookie year, I think I was out shooting pool or something. And I had a guy come up to me, you know, he said, what's up? He was like, yeah, you know, we real passionate fans. Like, we'll take a bullet for you, but we'll put you in front of one just as fast. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I was like, okay. See what type of people we got here. But it's all good though. They passed in the, they want to win. I mean, that's the C fans are pretty passionate. Yeah, but I was enjoying it. Like we never had no problem. Well, you won all the time. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, we had to ruin it to be mad. We didn't take care of it. So I never had a problem from our own fans. Never. If it was like, I think my second year, we were doing COVID year. We didn't have the best type of year. But even though I'm in, like it was no, I don't remember ever seen receiving any negative feedback from our fans at all. Well, I'm a Cowboys fan, man. And we dislike the Eagles. Yeah. But how much do you dislike the Cowboys? I mean, I don't necessarily dislike no specific team. But I mean, growing up my, my mother dislike the Cowboys bad. And it wasn't even because of the Cowboys. It was because of the Cowboys fans that lived around us. And this is it. It was on the streets. She's causing the five star cheeks. Oh, yeah. The time I was fans. Yeah. So it had nothing to do with the actual team. It was all, it had everything to do with the fans. Before you go out, do you like to be completely amped up? Or do you like to be as calm as possible so you can think clearly? It's a build up for me. It's a build up. It's like, it's kind of like it goes little by little. And by the time I'm running out, then it's, I'm amped. Like I'm amped. I don't, I don't be amped in the locker room. But like as soon as I'm running out the tunnel, then I'm, I'm, I'm at the peak. I'm way amped up. You just met Bo Jackson. Yeah. Was that like, I was cool. That was cool. What are you talking about? You see, I, I, you see all the, the, the, the documentaries and everything about Bo and Bo knows all that. You see all that. And it's like, you see a lot of like, I just seen like Baris Sanders and, and Emmett Smith walking around. I've never seen those guys. Are you talking about some grace in the game? So it's definitely cool to be out here and seeing him. Bo said he ran a 419-40. That's what he said. That's what he said. Well, he said they handheld him faster than that. Yeah. But he got a 419 at Auburn. Okay. At 220. At 220, okay. What do you think? I was at the same thing. You didn't. Did they have record of it? No. He might, he might be telling truth though, but I was saying the same thing. What is your fastest report of time? It's a 50. It's a 50. Yeah, that's official. Like a, like a 4-5. Hand. And that was like in high school. I haven't ran a 40 cent. You didn't run it all, like no. In the cup. I had tweaked my pick. I couldn't. And at the time, I had just around the time it was to like running 40. I just wasn't healed yet. By the time I drive, I got here, I was healed. But everybody thought I was good at hurt, but it was all good. Also, if there's a way that your time could hurt you but not help you, like why do it? Yeah. Like it wasn't going to do anything to help. Everybody knew where you were going to fall on the draft. Like you were that dude. You go on, you run a little slower, maybe they start going, maybe he's not that dude. Well, I run my drive process a little weird just because the week that we got a draft, it was everybody thought out. That was saying I was hurt and this day and the third, I'm like, I don't know what it is. Everybody talking about my injury prone. I haven't missed a game in college. I haven't missed a practice. I was barbed in the gym because I treat my pick while I'm training for the draft. Anyway, you think that was to get you to fall? You think they were planning that stuff out there? I mean, I'm not going to say the head, but I did. I feel I always ate third pick, but I feel to the right team. No, Super Bowl later. Super Bowl champion later. I'm good. I'm not going to play in it and we all feel country like this just so I'm blessed. What is this week like and how is it different than a regular season? Because you got two weeks. But you try to not get too amped up too early in the process, right? Yeah, I mean, when you play in the Super Bowl, you kind of know that you're playing the Super Bowl, but you're not really... I guess the first year, I didn't even play in one last year because I had her many. But the first year, I feel like once we won the NFC championship, it's like you amped up for like a couple days. Amped up for a couple days. I think I was more amped up because we got the body week, the extra body week to relax. Not relaxed, we were still practicing, but to not play a game, I think I was more amped up about that because I got the gold watch. My boy, I was winning another NFC championship against TCU back in 2022. That's a ugly game for TCU. Yeah, that's quick, that's quick death. Yeah, 23-3. But yeah, that was... So I think I was more amped up about that. And by the time you get to the game and everything, you kind of able to live out to emotions and play football. Tell me about Kind Hearts for Life. That's my foundation that me and my mother started. We started, you know, she kind of set the foundation of my giving back. And giving back to the community and just being out there and trying to spread positivity and light to everywhere. You know, our motto is reaching for the hand, but touching the heart. And we feel like we truly try to do that with starting with the youth. That's kind of our main focus trying to give back to the youth. And if we have an event, it can be a thousand kids. If I'm able to touch one kid, it just put a sense of confidence and belief that they can do whatever they want to do in life. Then I have to lie down and do that. How do people find out more about your foundation? You can go online, social media, yeah, you go on social media, Instagram, or Kind Hearts for Life. Life's a bit with ALY, L.F.E. in the 4th and the 4th, or you can go to Kind Hearts for Life.com. Awesome. Really appreciate the time. Yeah, thank you very much. We're going to go over now and talk with five-time gold medalist, Swimmer, Ryan Murphy. Ryan's won nine Olympic medals all time for Team USA, even brought one to the interview, which we talk about. We also got into the discussion about swimming from Alcatraz. Here is Ryan Murphy. Hey, Ryan, good to see you, man. Yeah, great to see you too. Where do you live? What do you train? So I'm training out of cows. I live in the area, so I'm in a city called Rinda. Where'd you grow up? I grew up. I was born in Chicago, grew up in Jacksonville, Florida. Basically came out here for school and then swimming. There's no pro draft or anything, so most people end up training with their college coach. So you just stayed? Just stayed. Feel like home? Yeah, yeah. Now it's like, I mean, the interesting place, like so many of my friends from college have just stayed here. So it's great. Like, we have really, really solid training group out here. What are the mornings like? What do you start training? I mean, I wake up. I'm pretty much waking up at five every day. In basically three times a week, I just go straight to the weight room, start lifting, do that for me. Start lifting, do that for an hour and then go to the pool. And then the other day is it's pretty much wake up and go to the pool and just get right in. I'm assuming you're doing full body, right? Like when you work out. Yeah, because I think we go in the weight room, like, there's a level of like we're trying to maximize explosiveness. There's a level of injury prevention. And so like, swimming is so much like lats and back. And so like you kind of want to balance things out. But yeah, it's full body. It's like, you're doing like squats, I mean squats, lunges, pull-ups, bench, cleans, core. Is there a tapering situation with you before you race? Yeah, tapering's big. We've pretty much four weeks out from a meet. We'll start a dial back. The volume intensity stays pretty high. But volume comes down probably by like 70%. Wow. When you get to the week of the race. And this may be the dumbest question you ever gotten. But is there ever time yet to pull in the water's way too cold? Yeah, like right now, this morning. Yeah, like I jumped in and it's like, I let out, I let out an audible. It was so, it was so cold. And then it sucks. You just have to like, you have to go fast and warm up in order to then not feel cold. Say, yeah, that's a brutal part of the sport. For runners, if there's wind, that can affect the race and if it's an official time. Is there anything in swimming where that would like the temperature of the water? Like does that actually make you swim faster? Or if like the little pomp is on at the bottom? And it's actually on while you're swimming, that's a bubble. Yeah, there's, I mean in the in the short races, it doesn't make a big of an impact. But sometimes there's a current in the pool and it typically like goes in a circle. So if you're on the outside lanes, one direction ends up being, you have pretty sizable difference faster. I get into it being like, we're going probably half a second faster going one way versus the other. So the current is probably the biggest thing. And that's a real thing. Yeah, like when you get to the big meet, they're supposed to turn, turn that off for all the races. But it's still somehow. It's still sometimes slips into the man's. Is there a lane that you want? I mean, to be honest, you probably want the outside lane. Like if you're thinking about just like waves in the pool. But you can't see as many people then, right? Exactly. So that's like the trade off. Like if you don't need to see people to like kind of drive you to that extra level of, to push through that extra level of pain, like then you're fine on the outside. But if you need to see people, you want to be right in the middle lane four or five. Do you need to see people? I like to. I like to. Yeah, because I think, I mean, there's so many different philosophies. Like so many coaches say like focus on your lane, focus on your race. Like, yeah, you want to do that. But like at the end of the day, like I'm good because I'm super competitive. And so same people helps me kind of get a little bit more out of myself. When you're training, well, they have like a rabbit, a pool version of a rabbit. You follow. That you chase or is, is a time that you can see or even like a laser that you can actually see while you're going. I mean, it ends up being like, no, it ends up being old, it ends up being old school, just like, you know, kind of verbal motivation in different, you know, there's different styles and tactics. So you can get that can be pretty hardcore sometimes and other times. I can just feel like, hey, like, yeah, you're like realistically, like if your best competition in the world is doing this next few, like they'd be going faster. Like if there was like a rabbit on the bottom of the pool that you could see that you knew was an exact time. You're swimming against that. They don't have that technology. It has invented something great. Yeah, throw it in there. The bottom of the pool. A rabbit. If you're trying to be this time in that rabbit or that dolphin, a fish, the dolphins going to surf. You're done with this podcast. You're starting a million bucks. Yeah, because you know, when we watch the Olympics, like you have the world record right in front. You all obviously don't see that. But for us, he's like, he's almost there. Yeah, no, it's, it's gnarly. And like watching it back, you're like, damn, I do wish I know. I knew. Like, so it would be cool. It would be cool to have that, you know, have that like right in front of your face kind of when you're doing these fast efforts. But not nothing there yet. How do you decide what stroke you're going to do when you're young when you're in those formidable 12, 13 year old years? So you kind of train for everything. And then, and then at some point, it just becomes clear what you're better at. I'd say like the only stroke where it's very clear if that's your best stroke is breaststroke. So basically like, if your feet are kind of more of like duck feet, like they like just go out. Like you've been born that way? Yeah, like some, like you see some people walk in like they just have like their feet are out. I mean, obviously I'm pigeon toad. And so for me, like that ended up being better for backstroke. I probably started leaning into that as my best stroke and I was like 15 or 16. So Bobby and I talked about the guys that skipped Alcatraz. And Bobby is like, you know, I've gone by Alcatraz. I feel like I could swim it. Do you think you could swim it? Yes, I've done it before. And how was it? Cold. I hated it. I actually hated that so much because I didn't go like I just went, I went in a brief. Like I wasn't, I wasn't wearing a body or a wet suit or anything like that. And so like that water is like 50 and like you can't see like if you put your hand in the water, you can see maybe like two feet in front of you. You're going to hit with these waves. And then it's like in some cases, there's another, there's another race called the Tiberon Mile. Tiberon is shark. Yeah, it's something you're like starting about that. And I'm like, no, it's, it's not for me. So I did it once and that's, that's good enough. Do you think the guys made it? The, the prisoners? I think so. I mean, it's like if you're, I mean if it's literally like you're, you're actually life or death in that scenario, you're, you can make that. That's what I felt too, although it is extremely cold. And it's extremely, there's a bunch of waves, but I feel like if it were like I might die, I think I could probably make it. You could do it. You could do it. You have a metal with you? I do, I do. It's been just sitting in my pocket. Everywhere you go. So it's just, you got a nice, you got nice warm metal here. So tell me about this metal. All right, so after I'm the, that was from the Paris Olympics. This is so heavy. Yeah, so that one was, so that was the mixed metal relay. So basically in that one, it was a, it was a race between us and China. And basically mixed metal relay, you go two males and two females, you do whatever order you want. And so China and the US ended up, we did the same exact strategy. So we went two males. So we'd, I let off backstroke, we know the male go breaststroke, and then we'd female fly and then female free. And it was pretty much just a dog fight the whole way through. Like we were within a, a tenth of a second the whole way. We ended up winning the, winning the race by, I think, 0.05. We broke the world record. And then what I learned after the games, we ended up beating China in the gold medal count by one medal. So this was a, this was a super important race for the US to get it done. So it was an awesome atmosphere. We were, I mean, we were, we were celebrating hard after that one. That was, it was really, really fun. How are you feeling going in? How's your training right now? It's good. I mean, I'm honestly in a mode where like I took, I took time off after Paris. So I'm, I'm really just ramping up now. So I'm, I mean, I'm taking my lick. So I'm kind of getting my butt handed to me in practice. But it's, it's, it's good. I'm building up the fitness. I'm excited. L.A. is going to be unbelievable. So I, so I feel good. Like, I think I'm going to be in a good spot. Even the progress in this, you know, in this past month has been, has been really significant. So I think it's coming back pretty quick. I really appreciate your time. Good luck. Thanks for bringing the medals. That's awesome. You got it. You got it. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out with us today. That's awesome. And now I'll talk with Rams defensive back Quentin Lake. Quentin was a six-round pick by the Rams out of UCLA. Just got a new contract extension last month. So congrats to him. Thanks to Quentin from jumping all of us. Here he is. Quentin Lake. Hey, Quentin. Good to see you, man. Good to see you. How much of a relief is it when you get a contract extension? Like, how does that feel emotionally? Uh, emotionally, it feels great. Personally, for me, it felt even better because I was at home, you know. Like, I'm from California and really for such a great organization to be like, Hey, we want you to be a part of the future. That's one of the best feelings ever, you know. To be able to have not only the security on the team, but to understand like, they bought into you. That means so much. And I'm really blessed and really thankful that they're like, Hey, you know, we cherish you. We value you and we want to see you here for the next three years. I've been through some pretty significant contract negotiations. And the whole time they're negotiating for an ad, like, I don't really know. I'm trying to do focus. But I kind of know. And like, I'm having small conversations. Is that to you? Is that where you're down at all? Or you just let them do their thing while it's happening? I mean, that's the reason why you have an agent, you know, that's a reason. I have an agent to it, but I'm like, I need to know every day. I know, I know. But that's why it's for me. It's like a lot of athletes can kind of get in trouble if you think about it too much. But if you never want to let that side of it affect your play. And I always told myself, if I take care of what I need to in between the white lines, everything would take care of itself. These processes are long. Mine was eight months, you know, of constantly talking, making sure, hey, we're always in good communication. But at the same time, I was like, hey, I'm gonna let you handle it. You know, I'm gonna go out there and put my best work that I can. And everything will fall in place. There's a saying, if they want to, they would. And that's exactly what it is. If they want to do contracts and stuff like that, they're gonna make it happen. And at the end of the day, that's exactly what happened to me. What about when you get drafted to stay home? Like, you see a lot. Did you think that was going to be the case with the conversations that, hey, if you're there, we're gonna take you? Oh, no, not at all. I had, so the Rams did it a little bit differently. They just sent me a questionnaire. And that was it. It was like a hundred question, questionnaire to see like different attributes, different values. What are your, you know, what are things that you like and stuff like that? I honestly thought it was gonna be either the Patriots, Raiders, or Dolphins. The Raiders DB coach called me and he was like, hey, if we have you at blah, blah, blah, round in this number, we're gonna come get you. And you hear this story a ton of times. Okay, it's round six, pick one, 32. It comes up. They say, this is exactly where they're gonna get you. Another name pops up. You're like, man, like, what's up with that? That's crazy to me, you know? But at the same time, when my name did pop up round six, 211. And it was the last end of the serams. I was like, man, what a blessing. I'm around my family. I'm around my friends. I'm in a familiar environment. I don't have to fly anywhere to go to the facility. I'll just drive up in my 2017 Toyota Corolla and get my, you know, PJs and my clothes and all that stuff too. So it was a wonderful, wonderful feeling. What about your pops? Like, how did he prepare you for the lead? Man, he's, we've been talking about it for a long time. There's this acronym that we use. It's called APE. And we always say, you wanna go, you wanna go APE. And APE stands for it. Your attitude, your preparation, or your effort. Those are three things that you can control on a day-to-day basis. And he says, as long as you do that, no matter what, you know, you'll probably be successful. And on top of that is, he says, you don't want anybody to outwork you. You don't want anybody to outhustle you. And you don't want anybody to out-prepare you. And the cream will always rise to the top. And I've been, he's been telling me that, you know, drilling that into my brain ever since, really, he understood that, you know, I can make it to the NFL. Because when I was young, he was like, I'm just gonna take a step back. I'm not gonna coach you. I'm gonna let you figure it out on your own. And then when he saw like, oh man, he might actually make it. He might get drafted. He might, you know, he got a chance. That's when he was fully invested. And that's when we've been talking about it. And football's our love language now. We talk about it all the time. We go over games. If I go home, I'll bring my iPad and we'll go over a whole game. And he'll give me all the tidbits that he knows from him being in the NFL so long. Matthew Stafford won the MVP last night. What's he liking locker room? One of the best human beings I've ever been around. The thing about him is, not only is he a great leader, great player, great person. But you just want to follow the way for him. He's such a great father. And I think that plays into who he is in terms of his character. There was a viral clip a couple days ago or a couple of weeks ago about him tucking his daughters after we lost. You know, after we lost the NSE Championship. And that goes to show that you want to be around guys like that. Not only guys that are great players, great friends and great acquaintances. We're great fathers too. He, I mean, we talk about all the time. One of our saying is, model the way. And he models the way as a round for sure. Man, I always loved, as I was a kid, the Rams helmet. Like to me in the league that Rams helmet with the horn going is like take yourself out of the Rams. Yeah. What's your favorite helmet, even from when you were little? Oh, man. I think I'm a little bit biased, but those yellow Pittsburgh, the yellow Pittsburgh with the black dough. Like when I was playing Madden, and obviously I was born in Pittsburgh dad played and all this stuff too. But those are like the holy grail for me. That's very biased, but you can still love something. Yeah, I love that. It's not a little biased. No, that's very biased, but I love those helmets. And then I'll also say this, the Bucking Ears cream cream. Cream physical. Yeah, those are sweet. Those are so sweet. So, and then last one, not least, like our midnight jerseys that we had in the Rams, like I had to buy that. I had to buy that helmet because I was like, I got to keep this thing forever. If you give your jersey to another guy, do you got to pay for the jersey? It's like $500. No way. You have to pay for it. So, yeah, I had to pay like $1,200 for all my jersey. And you can buy more. And you, yeah, you have to buy all your stuff. Like, you're not, come on, you got, like nothing's free. Nothing's free. They're not going to be like, hey, we're going to give you this. What about the new deal? Like any 10 jerseys a year? You could do 10 jerseys, but it'd probably be a couple thousand dollars. Or you could get the money instead. Yeah. But isn't that surprising though that like the first one's not free? And if you lose that, you pay for the replacement? Like a credit card. Right. Yeah, that's true, but they say like, hey, you know, sometimes, especially doing the precincts, they're like, hey, no jerseys swaps. You know, because we got to get through all these jerseys. During precincts. They'll be like, hey, no jerseys swaps this time. Unless it's like a special occasion, you played with them in college or best friend or something like that. But other than that, you got to pay for them. Appreciate the time. Congratulations on the extension. Yeah, appreciate it. Looking forward to big things from you guys next year. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. All right, that's going to do it for us today. Everybody good? Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready for the offseason. That's it now. We're done. We're done, dude. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done referencing Robert Crafts. Yeah, the massage parlour. No way. What did it say? Whatever that I don't I couldn't read it, but whatever that massage parlour company was or whatever. Savage. That's crazy. At the North Carolina game. I felt weird when you said that. Why it is savage. Why do you think it's cringey or? Oh, he got a little too excited. He's saying savage. Yeah, just kind of like papal trying new words. Stop. Sick. Oh, man. Six, seven. Yeah, exactly that. All right. We will see you guys. Bye, everybody. Eddie Bollowissel. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on social at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew, co-host at producer at Kikovkeven. And executive producer at Mike D. Strobe. But most importantly, thank you for listening. Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.