The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 901 | "Loser Sibling"

197 min
Feb 7, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Episode 901 features extensive discussion of J. Cole's double album 'The Off-Season,' analysis of Glorilla's sibling seeking financial support, examination of LaRussell signing to Roc Nation despite championing independence, and commentary on family dynamics and loser siblings.

Insights
  • J. Cole's concept album prioritizes personal storytelling over commercial appeal, reflecting an artist potentially transitioning away from hip-hop engagement
  • Family wealth dynamics create tension when successful relatives don't redistribute earnings, but obligation depends on individual circumstances and relationship quality
  • Independent artists face pressure to maintain ideological consistency; pivoting to label deals risks alienating core fanbase despite potential business benefits
  • Regional hip-hop resurgence validates hometown-focused narratives and allows artists to build sustainable careers outside traditional commercial centers
  • Health disclosure by public figures drives awareness; preventive care messaging resonates more when delivered by relatable celebrities than institutions
Trends
Concept albums as artist legacy projects gaining traction among established rappers seeking artistic control over commercial successIndependent artist partnerships with major labels structured as distribution-only deals to maintain ownership while gaining infrastructureFamily financial obligation discourse shifting from shame-based to nuanced conversations about capacity, relationship history, and personal boundariesRegional hip-hop touring and streaming success proving sustainable without major label backing or mainstream radio rotationCelebrity health advocacy focusing on preventive care and demographic-specific barriers (insurance, distrust, time poverty) in communities of colorBooster economy and stolen goods market normalization in certain demographics as alternative consumer channelsPodcast-based criticism and accountability culture creating pressure on public figures to address allegations or controversies directly
Topics
J. Cole Album Analysis and Concept Album TrendsFamily Wealth Redistribution and Sibling ObligationIndependent Artist Label Partnerships and OwnershipRegional Hip-Hop Market ViabilityCelebrity Health Disclosure and Preventive CareBooster Economy and Stolen Goods MarketsPodcast Accountability CultureGenerational Wealth and Family DynamicsArtist Independence vs. Infrastructure Trade-offsHip-Hop Feature Culture and Artist VersatilityKidnapping and Ransom CasesUniversity Leadership and Institutional AccountabilityStreaming Platform EconomicsPersonal Brand Management for Public FiguresRetirement Planning for High-Earning Entertainers
Companies
Roc Nation
LaRussell signed distribution deal with Roc Nation after years of championing independence, sparking debate about art...
Apple Music
Referenced as platform where LaRussell's 40+ album catalog is available, highlighting streaming distribution
Dreamville Records
J. Cole's independent label through which he released the double album discussed throughout episode
Atlantic Records
Referenced in comparison to Nipsey Hussle's licensing deal for Victory Lap album
PrizePicks
Sports betting platform sponsor offering player prop picks for Super Bowl with promo code
Revolt
Media company where Dame Dash became CEO, discussed as example of questionable business pivot
FedEx
Employer where Glorilla's mother works, central to family financial obligation discussion
People
J. Cole
Released double album 'The Off-Season' analyzed extensively; discussed as potentially retiring from hip-hop
Glorilla
Rapper whose sibling publicly complained about lack of financial support despite her success
LaRussell
Independent artist who signed to Roc Nation after years of advocating against label deals
Nipsey Hussle
Referenced as precedent for independent artist licensing deals while retaining ownership
Savannah Guthrie
NBC host whose mother Nancy was kidnapped; ransom note and Bitcoin demand discussed
Kevin James
Morris Brown College president fired then rehired; controversial FaceTime clip emerged after reinstatement
Kid (Christopher Reed)
Kid and Play member who disclosed congestive heart failure diagnosis and urged health screenings
Teddy Riley
Producer touring with new band members; discussed as example of artist maintaining relevance
Aaron Hall
R&B singer found in Atlanta motel after being served papers for sexual misconduct lawsuit
Dame Dash
Discussed as example of untrustworthy figure after becoming Revolt CEO
Corey Holcomb
Comedian criticized for continued beef with Joe Budden despite personal struggles
Kendrick Lamar
Referenced for double disc concept album; J. Cole previously criticized him during battle
The Alchemist
Producer featured on multiple J. Cole album tracks praised for beat selection
T-Minus
Executive producer and co-producer on J. Cole album
Kyrie Irving
Purchased LaRussell's album for $11,000 in independent sales campaign
Quotes
"This album is for him and for his hometown. So I can't compare this to albums that he was swinging for the fences a little bit more from a commercial standpoint."
Mark Lamont HillJ. Cole album discussion
"You can't go home again. Even when he's in a hoodie, even when he's pumping gas, he gets recognized and he can't be himself."
Podcast hostAlbum analysis
"If you've had so much success without a hit song, why would you do it now?"
Podcast hostLaRussell discussion
"A lot of people are walking around with heart disease because they don't go to the doctor. Traditionally, people of color, we don't go."
Kid (Christopher Reed)Health advocacy segment
"The loser sibling don't even know that the sibling with a record deal probably is paying the mortgage or the rent, Thanksgiving, gross."
Podcast hostGlorilla family discussion
Full Transcript
The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at all or our own. Enjoy the show. I absolutely love the topic of boosting, but I already know how it's going to go. I know exactly how it's going to go, and no one is going to get killed but me. Because you're going to sound bougie and above it, what are they going to call you? I mean, these niggas just be calling anything bougie. Like, we do need to clearly establish what is bougie and what's not. But not for today. It's a moving target. Bougie is a woman target It is It is I feel I got so much to say But boosting Yeah but the people we talk about Are never bougie Like Mona ain't bougie No No Nobody's mistaking her for bougie I am bougie Wait Bougie That's how you say bougie It's French Ain't nothing bougie I'm bougie Ice we know is not bougie Nope At all Nice bougie too And it's be confused He is whoever he around So if he around Some bougie motherfuckers He gonna act bougie And if he around niggas That buy vacuums from boosters Then yes Yeah And even if you in support Of buying shit from boosters Some shit should be off Of the booster list I.E. A vacuum Huh? How y'all I agree That's where the bougie part come in How is that? What is that, Corey? Me and Corey never agree. A vacuum should be off the booster list when you're between 40 and 50 years old. Why? Excuse me, why? Because I get boosted shit from the barbershop, right? I'm not walking down the street with a fucking vacuum cleaner back home. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to get boosted shit from the barbershop, didn't you? You shouldn't be at 40 and 50 getting boosted shit from the barbershop. I don't get boosted shit from the barbershop. When I did, that's where I went. At 40 and 50, you should have all the utensils you need in your home to clean it and maintain it. But if you don't have a vacuum, you should not be calling your booster network. Stopping around. Stop. I want you to price matching on a vacuum. The problem with something like a vacuum cleaner is you should pick the vacuum cleaner you want. The booster might not have the vacuum cleaner. It's a good one again. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Not only do y'all not know what y'all talking about, I feel like at times, like we have certain issues about a doctor, we're going to let the doctor speak. We have the next booster in the building. Two. Please, everybody, shut up. Two. So please, everybody, shut up. Number one. What is you talking about? 84, nigga. It don't matter. The hustle is the same. You do the boomboxes and be the match, yo. Number one, to assume that the person that's buying a vacuum off the person selling a vacuum doesn't have a vacuum is silly. That's number one. That's one. Me, I own a Roomba. That nigga vacuums on his own and mops on his own. I've only been in my place for four or five months anyway, but the vacuum was a gift for my hairstylist that she just moved. It was a housewarming gift. Sidebar, if a motherfucker come parks with a Roomba that mops because mine only sweeps, I'm going to probably purchase that. Even though I have the Roomba that sweeps. The fact that I hate Big Corp and a little piece of me hate capitalism, I love to buy stolen merchandise. I enjoy it. Okay, so it's an act of defiance. Oh, my God. It's like a fight back to the people. It's like, let me get a little bite of them reparations. On top of the fact that I stole. Thank you. I stole for a living for 10 plus years. So, yeah, I'm going to support the hustle that I was in. Y'all talking niggas that walk through the barbershop. Nah, my folks call me. What brand you want? What school do you want me to go to? Okay, that's the booth of the shoppers. It's levels to that shit. That's the shopper. They're professional shoppers. We're not talking about the smoker that or the drug addicted person that bucks up on something and he brings you in a box and beats the fuck up. That's what I'm used to. No, no, no, not that. Yeah, we're not talking about that. You talk to a good booster. Yo, I need this. I'm talking about a booster. I need these sizes. I need boom, boom, boom. They're going to get it. Every nigga in this room will take some shit from a booster. Sure. Absolutely. So what are we talking about? Well, the very first point I made was what do you need to get from a booster and how vacuum shouldn't be on that list. And that's when all of y'all knocked if you bucked and said you could call anywhere and get the new Hoover. I could give any Hoover number I need. Y'all did that. Your original quote was yo at 40 something years old. You shouldn't be fucking with the booster I was your original quote Then Them Dyson's cost a thousand dollars if a nigga comes through with the Dyson for $400 I'm a buyer I might not even need that Sometimes a good deal just pop up Yo I got this I'm letting it go for this much Oh word Y'all all over the place Is it a deal came across your table or are you all deeply engulfed in the network of boosters that are actively going in stores to shop for you. You are so well-spoken. I could do both. You know what I mean? This nigga's good, man. I could do both. It's both. I could do both. If I know Park doing what he do with the... And I got an order to put... Nigga hit me the other day. He had a Birkin. Ooh. I said, yo, I get everything. Wait, wait, hold on. The boots are with the Birkin. I believe you. You know, nigga. It's all jumping. Nigga said, yo, I got a Birkin. He had all his YSL shit. I don't want to put nobody on blast. A year ago, one of our friends came in here with mad Louis Vuitton everything. And guess who the fuck bought some? Every nigga in his room bought some shit. Why you didn't call me with the one you know, bro? I didn't call him for him. You know I ain't with the one you know, bro. But that was coming across the table. Sure. But you were right. That's what I'm saying. Y'all, they're mixing up my points here. You said you should be calling them. Welcome to me right now. So I got a Rolex Rolex I'm not cause why you can you get me listen y'all plan to be connected to the booster world until death Okay, yeah I have a question for Joe Joe your point was That we shouldn't seek it out But it's okay if it falls on our lap Because the way you were speaking before I would judge somebody That is calling me Trying to put a vacuum across my lap I would feel like a total crackhead If somebody called me And said You know, probably call me about a Birkin. Got it. If somebody called and said, I got a 12-pack of Palmolive, you need a discount. I would want to question the relationship. But again, I'm different. I got it. I got it. I got it. In the relationship that I had with this person. You niggas ain't even got rug. The relationship that I had with this person is that they go out and steal for me. So exactly, they're going to hit me on top of the fact, like I said, I've been in my house for five months. So my first order was, yo, I need stuff for the house. Anything new house shit. These are brands I like. This is the kind of stuff I like. So it's coming through. So I'll just go something fast. I ended up with three Ninja. Whatever. Three Ninja? No. I got three Ninja. I don't. Whatever rug you got could be swept, child. Facts. It can. You don't. But I vacuum one. You said you got a Roomba. Dana, but that still ain't a vacuum. You said that was a gift. What is a Roomba? I know. The Roomba is recording you play with yourself and selling the data. Oh, my God. I'm kind of in this all here. I'm a little bit of that. No judgment. You can't have a problem with the Roomba doing it, but anything else got to fucking care. We're here now. Nah, if you're going to be there recording, touch me back. Thanks. I need a Roomba with the arms. You got a bunch of other shit recording you in the house before you get to the Roomba problem. No, Roomba's really good recording. You think my TV is recording me masturbating? You think my TV is just taping everything? Yes. Every last day, even if I turned off all of the thingamajiggy, power still going to us. Yes. Same reason why you can't turn the power off to your phone. All right. Who is the genius bar in the booster world? He probably masturbate ugly as shit. Who do y'all call? You masturbate to pump it up. I masturbate to my girl. Okay. That's cute, but I just can't imagine your facial facial hair. No, I masturbate to my girl. Okay, but I'm seeing you. She does it. You can't stop. I'm seeing you. We all masturbate to our girls. We're right. I'm not talking about the girls. talking about you being ugly as shit in the act. You probably masturbate ugly as shit is what I said. Like a real aggressive angry podcaster jerk. I'm beautiful. I'm beautiful. I don't want to be inappropriate but it's beautiful. Mark, I don't believe everybody masturbates to the girl. Everyone here does. You know, I love. I don't believe none of y'all masturbates to y'all girl. That's stupid. You can just fuck the bitch. Like, what are we talking about? I guess you feel it like that. Like, what are we talking about? You can always just talk to him. Yeah. I hate playing games with the guys. I'm annoying. Sometimes option B is like Alex Henault climbing, skyscraping, so tapping. Sometimes option two is like, what did we do today? Joe, you're so judgy. What did we do today, and what type of performance are you expecting out of me? And you know what it's like. Number two more importantly. And you know what type of time I'm on in the morning. So don't you want to let me rest? Then what do we eat? You want to let me rest. What do we eat is a goal. That's a very important one. Yeah, what do we eat? Did I not? Like if it's pot roast, y'all done. If it's salad, you could go. Not rice and beans, you farting. That's no good. Oh, God. That's that couple shit for real. You know what's funny? Not to rehash old stuff, but I was watching the clip of you brothers talking about the fighting Deontay Wilder and John Jones and all that. And, you know, my brain is weird. So one of the thoughts I had was you could tell which niggas ain't just never fucked like a tall bitch. I know that that's weird getting there. What is the tallest woman that you've ever slept with, both of you, you and Ish? Maybe 6'1", 6'2". 6'4". The models are usually that height, so... 6'4". That's what me and Ish do. How about you, Ice? About six. Six-four for me. Varsity hoops and six. Don't tell my girls, there's a lot to wrestle with. It's a lot. Y'all have had girls taller than y'all, right? Yeah. Yeah, everybody. We all the same height when we're laying down, though, so. Fact. We get it, you tall, Ice. I wasn't trying to be funny. I don't fucking tell a girl. I don't care, but. I would. I've never had. It's kind of hard. Chicks, they're not coming. Because you're six-five. Yeah. Yeah, damn. Yeah, that's it. Same age. I've dated shorter guys a lot. You're pretty tall. Yeah, I'm like 5'8". Sturdy. Amazon. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Black people always go too far. What's the definition of Amazon, y'all? Ish, what's the definition? My phone locks up. Oh, shit. Mark got the fuck out of this. What is in Amazon, Joe? I don't know. I ain't part of somewhere. Not you. Okay. Damn. Yo, it's a company. Let's get my vacuum cleaner. A member of a legendary race of female warriors believed by ancient Greeks to be... Not that one. No, no, nigga. I don't even talk about wonderful women in those. I don't know. I always thought it was a big girl Like tall and thick Not fat Tall and thick though I don't think you gotta be thick I think you gotta be a certain level A tall, physically strong, athletic Or convenient woman I didn't know that I never knew it had nothing to do with athleticism So like muscles And stuff like that Oh I didn't know that at all A couple of WNBA players Oh okay Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Well, it's not that bad of it. Triceps. Jesus. Donnie said he was going to make the buses for you. Did you think about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not fucking with it. I don't know. I feel like you don't take the bus. Yeah. Right. I've been on the bus before. And I don't feel like we need to lower the barrier. You know what I'm saying? I feel like he's been fucked up in three now. Oh, shit, that's funny. Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check, one, two, one, two. Welcome all, all are welcome. I need some easy breezy shit to start the bar, just in case chaos ensues. Little white soul, yeah man. Ease the soul, ease the room a little bit, you know what I mean? Shout out to wherever you might be listening from, shout out to all the parents out there, all the first and last time listeners, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up? Strangled by the wish is unknown. Always for the ladies, always for the ladies. Shout out to the old ass, 40, 50 and out, man. Want some light and film shit. Get to me the sooner or later. Everybody's traveling. Everybody getting ready for Super Bowl. Everybody at Super Bowl. Hey. Hey. They did their big one with us. Yeah. I saw a clip of them performing live, like currently. Yeah, I still got it. Absolutely murdered. Some of the best shit. Sound almost better than the record. Wow. It's good to have a timeless slap in your joint where you can just put the mic to the audience whenever you feel like it, and they just do the whole thing. That's what he was doing up here. I wish all my tears. It looks like 70,000 white people screaming. It's good to know the hook. Hey. So happy y'all could be here. We got a great show lined up for you today. Here you go. Happy people, happy couples out there. I'll keep holding on. I'll keep holding on. Okay. All the parents out there, shout out to everybody in college, everybody internationally, everybody in London, Germany, what up? I've been dancing my life, I've been wondering why, just somehow I believe you always goodbye. Everybody getting ready for balance out of day and all that. Hey! Everybody in love are looking for love Y'all got your Valentine's Day plans Ready to go, ready to go, ready to go Yes, sir Work in progress Got it, got it Start with new additions Hey Not bad New addition, boys, the men next week Let me hear you Baby, baby, baby, baby Only if you want it to I'm going to work on you A miracle Send a bit by This business Ain't no one thing Make your wife You're back to the corner This business Don't be a miracle This business The waiting is over Oh My check my check my shit Microphone check what's who wants you a poppin out there what's poppin out there? You're ice and ice and ice and ice. Who is that? It's Mark from our head, pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy. And Mona, Mona. What episode is this? 901. Welcome to episode 901 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Powered by Fueled by Price. Pitch Price, Pitch Gang. Yeah. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with a really good show lined up for y'all today. If you are not subscribed to the patreon now would be a good time to do so Shout to everybody out there. So glad you could be here with us to my right You know the vibes don't call her white girl big Mona Philly's finest in the building Mona. How you doing? I'm great. Hello, everybody good to see you next to Mona good brother. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Mr Thousand doors and up issues here next to him the freeziest of them all freeze this year next to him Our good brother Parks is here. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. It's popping, it's popping, it's popping. Shit. What up, man? Good to see everybody. Functioned on about five hours of sleep tonight. Had to soak in as much J. Cole pause as possible. Same. Double up is a lot for a next day review. It is. But I feel good. If you're looking for an in-depth analysis, in-depth expert analysis on an album that came out not even 12 hours ago. No, no, no. You got it right here, Dan. A double disc album. A double disc. I got a lot of thoughts, Tom. I'm not ready. A double disc, huh? Do you have a lot of thoughts? Hell yeah. I got a lot of thoughts, too. Yeah. Yeah. Been up since 3 a.m. We got to jump right in? Why not? I think my overall impression was that J. Cole made this album for J. Cole in Fayetteville. And if any of us mortals have something that we take out of this that we like, awesome. This felt very personal and very local. That is a great way of putting it. That's a great way of putting it. The whole first album is a story of... When I first started listening to it, I didn't really... I know I read all the notes that he dropped, but I didn't take it into account. Then about halfway through I went back and went Go re-read this and see what he was saying He was talking about how it says disc 29 He went back to Fayetteville, his hometown At 29 and this is a tale Of the experiences And I think it's That first disc for me is interesting Because it's some of Whatever J. Cole is good at I think you see him at his best here Like bars wise I think he's up Storytelling he's up Storytelling was the main strength of this album I mean storytelling is crazy The whole album is a story. Both discs. The stories. Yeah. But there are moments, particularly in the first disc, where I just, to your point about he made it for him. Yeah. Some of the production, some of the beat choices. Uh-huh. I feel like J. Cole, I loved him rapping on every song, and there are songs where I was like, this song would be better with a more grandiose beat. Oh, yeah. You know, it felt, some of it's shit I love because it felt like it boomed back from 94. Right. Some of it I love. It was perfect for me and my headphones, but for who I think the audience wants him to be and for the kind of goal I would want his quote-unquote final album to be, sometimes I wish there were some different people. The Alchemist B is amazing. I love that shit. He always got to find the drums on the Alchemist B. I wanted more of that. I wanted a little bit more of that production-wise. But storytelling, there was a few songs that had me in a chokehold. Just to name a couple real quick. Safety. Safety had me. I love safety I love Bunch Road Blues And I love drum and bass Those three for me Were like On disc Like the standouts On that first disc And it was great The production I think is mostly T-minus He's an executive producer And J. Cole as well They handle a bulk of it You can tell Yeah I didn't love the production But I didn't hate it either I thought it was fine And I think that for An album that is mostly Based on storytelling You kind of have to Have beats like that I think that those Kind of beats Whether we want to hear exciting or not not saying they're not exciting because they're knocking you know drums are knocking they're not bad it's not bad I don't want to say like oh the production was fine we don't know we don't know that it's his last we can't if you put out let me put it differently if you put out a double disc in hip hop this should be a major piece of work this should be one of your if you think about pop think about I knew you was about to start comparing yeah no because that's what I'm going to compare because he's capable of that and the raps are I mean again so far I really love this album I'm just saying you don't know that he's capable of that he had better production than previous albums I will say that but Joe even listen to the mixtape last week when he's on Epic Beat I think you and I disagree I think he shows up I'm telling you that and we want to have a nice cool and clean conversation I'm telling you that All Eyes On Me and Life After Death are two of the best albums ever made in hip hop and they're double discs. J. Cole is phenomenal. We do not know that he can do that. And if we begin to compare, then no, this is not that. I think the better comparison for this album is the Kendrick double disc. This is the concept album to me, which is interesting. Super side note, but I was having a musician, nerd, friend conversation about the best British bands and The Who's name came up in conversation, and I'd never really listened to The Who like that, despite they have a couple slaps that everyone knows. So I went back and listened to their whole discography, which is only maybe seven or eight albums, but most of them are concept albums. So I'm already kind of in concept album mode when I heard that, and I thought that was a little interesting. And I also thought that him kind of ragging on Kendrick during the battle, granted it was a battle, so all things are not to be taken super serious, he ragged on Kendrick for his double disc, which was a concept album, and then made a concept album. I thought that was a little interesting. I thought this was a really good one. Halfway through the first disc, I went back and read them letters, I mean the notes, and I said, okay, I get it, because disc one wasn't for me. This one was clearly, and when he said this is 29-year-old me, well, that was a J. Cole I wasn't really listening to like that, that I wasn't too much of a fan of. So I was like, all right, cool. Now I understand why this really ain't connecting with me that much. Rapping it there, it was just, production made me want to go say hey who did these beats because this sounds like back when Cole was doing all his production and majority of it was that again this just sounded Cole era that's this is die hard Cole fan music not those of us who kind of warmed up to him later on this album reinforced the critiques that I had about him this one was very boring to me I wasn't blown away until the second half of this one, personally. Track seven. Which was around with Alchemist. There's a couple of joints on them. I'm comparing overall. And then I'm listening to this as comparing Cole to Cole. So your previous albums, this feels like regression. Oh, wow. I get that and I understand that. I think that, again, this album is for him and for his hometown. So I can't compare this to albums that he was swinging for the fences a little bit more from a commercial standpoint. Like he wasn't trying to make no hit on this album. Cool. But this is the album that you've you've this probably had more hype than it. Fuck the battle. I don't care. Talk about the battle. I'm going to have more hype than maybe any other album outside of his debut. That may be true. So if you chose to make it a very personal album, I mean, you set this bar. You know, you putting up the whiteboard and showing us your plan and your graceful exit as some may think this is the retirement album or, you know, whatever the case may be. You played into a lot of that with your rollout and made that you have a very high bar set and coming off of your previous works. I think all that was intentional. Cool. It could be intentional. So now when I get the project, I'm underwhelmed. I understand that. I think this one. I'm only speaking on this one right now. I think he did this for his talent and for himself, and I think that that was intentional. Let me build this shit up, and I'm going to give you me on it. And bring you back to where I'm from, which is not a major city, so that's, like, super fly. So, like, I'm going to bring you into this world that you don't really know about. I love the storytelling and the lyrics. That, for me, was compelling. I didn't find this one boring at all, but I get why, like you said, you're not a diehard, they were a whole person. I get why you might feel that way. I didn't feel that way. I love this one. You know how I feel, but yeah. I think he also took a lot of risks Vocally a lot of singing a lot of different tones and shit like that which was interesting Would you want more features? No Because you know in terms of like you got Thames you got Future Would you want other people singing the hooks or doing some other things to make it I like when he does hooks I'm not mad at that I have a question for If an artist does make a I'm sorry If an artist does make something and it's more for them or whatever. When it comes to the masters, us, does that matter what you was thinking in regards to like how you judge it? Like if you know the artist making it for them or whatever reason, does it really matter? For us it matters, but for him it doesn't. For me it don't matter. I don't care what your intention was. I'm taking your art as you presented this. And I'm the consumer, I'm the listener. So when I put the headphones on and listen to it, cool, you made this going into it. This is personal to me and I want to do it this way, but if it don't sound good to me, then it's just, all right, good attempt. you know I mean you might love it because you made it for you right but me as a consumer I don't love it when artists say they made it for them I just don't really get that because you want to make money I don't know if he said that I just that's how I feel and everybody don't to what you said everybody doesn't go into the album trying to make money or something he's also going to make a lot of money yeah some people really are just passionate in creating art like they really want this to be a piece of art and he's I put him on that side I don't he don't really do much for the money but This album from Cole I have a lot of thoughts I have a lot of thoughts Yes I would have liked more features To answer Mark To Ice's point At some point listening I did feel like this was When Cole was doing his own beats At some point I had that thought I'm going to say that was around Disc 2 Disc 1 is the one I like the exact opposite This one is the The one for me Maybe Yeah it's a rapper's rapper There's a few things going on On this thing I personally enjoy the Tribe-ish beats The Dilla Conductor Souls of Mischief Oh I didn't get that at all These beats I felt like that What's his name I did I felt like that Safety Safety definitely It wasn't no Low fire or abstract. It was fairly straightforward beats. Sound like J. Cole beats. Yeah. Oh, I got lo-fi from a lot of these beats. I did shit. I got lo-fi from quite a few of these beats, most of them being on disc two. I appreciate this project because y'all had went back and read the notes. I read them as soon as they dropped. And listening to the project, especially disc one, I can appreciate going back to your hometown when you're the man. Yeah, I can relate to it a lot. I relate. Yeah, I relate to that. I relate to leaving to go get a job done, going to do that job, and then going back home at 29 and at 39. Because you're listening to this shit on disc one very early. I was like, shit, when he started, when he opened with the country music. Yeah. yeah it's folk but yeah whatever it was that that sound was like it brought me to when i'm when i'm in south carolina and on sunday everybody in church and niggas can pick up trucks and playing gospel or whatever the fuck is going on it just he was painting a picture and i appreciate him painting the picture right like on on i don't have the names of all of them but uh poor thing when he starts serving up his man, when he starts serving up homeboy that was back home talking shit, yo, y'all heard some nigga back home was talking some local nigga. Whoa! He tore this local nigga apart. But at home, as a listener, I'm like, yo, who the fuck is Jack Cole talking to right now? But I know in Fayetteville, North Carolina, right now, they know exactly what the fuck is. In Charlotte and all surrounding towns, it lit up there. It's all the country niggas that are into rap and that watch this nigga from small and believed in them. That whole circuit is in an uproar upside down right now. I do think that that's fire. It is. I think that's fire. Safety one of my favorite joints. I'm going to play a little bit from it right now. Gave me a Gave me a Nas One Love type of vibe Yeah And that's that Oh my god The UNIT Y tech Yes, yes, yes Yeah, I just felt like The better beats by far Were on this one By far Like for me, this is one of the better beats on all out It is, huh? Me too I'm with that But that's what kept me up I heard this It sounds gonna be crazy Like he did a lot of jazz throughout the album And this was a real good usage of it to me Yo, and what a just hard way to open. Yo, I'm fresh back. Yeah. This is what's going on. This is what niggas is saying. I ain't even know that he smoked like that. Drank a few beers and some beers since we joked like that. Yo, I've been doing her on the ground. She don't post like that. Yeah. He's painting a picture. Like, I think this happened. There was really a girl that used to be bad that now you back and your man's telling you, Yo, you see it? She's like, check it. This is so graphic, and he's so great at this. He is great at this. This album for me was everything I absolutely love and adore about J. Cole, and also everything I absolutely hate about J. Cole. I can agree with that. Or the things that frustrate me about J. Cole, and as we go on, I'll get into some of those things. We got to get to verse 2 on here because Verse 2 is hilarious, I don't think it's supposed to be This is fire This is fire Let's go Let's go So now verse 2 is funny because If I have the songs right, and I listen to this more than once, because I took a long nap early in the day. I had a very busy day, was in bed by 3 o'clock. I woke up at 11 ready to go. I woke up at 11 p.m., stayed up to about 3.34 in the morning, letting it go, went to sleep with it. I maybe paused it at track 8 on disc 2. I intended to only listen to disc 1. and I was in the studio, I had it in the bigs, you know, vibing. But, you know, it's like watching a movie. Like, you think, like, maybe I can cut this shit off halfway. Now I kind of see where this goes. I see it through. A busy day put you in bed at 3 p.m.? I had a really, really, well, first of all, if I, on a Thursday, if I can get, Thursday I'm in bed early. But I had a really busy and hectic and very productive, life-changing and life-altering type of day yesterday. At 3 p.m.? I got in bed. Yeah, life-changing. We thought you were rich. World changing. Good life changing. Amazing. We've lost my. Amazing day. I met some really terrific people. I had really good vibes. Yeah, I was in bed. I was in bed by four. Job well done. Goal. The meeting you waited for all week. You waited out the park. Aaron Judge, you can go home and go to bed stress-free, your mind free of whatever was on your mind before. Congrats. God is good. Congratulations, folks. Thank you, God. Congratulations, Joe. Thank you, God. All this shit is awesome. So verse 2 His man is telling him Yo Quay died I love this in rap too Somebody that you don't know I love that Some people hate it I really love it I absolutely love it I absolutely love it So he's trying to tell him When Quay's funeral in Wake is So for the verse to go Where it go Like Immediately it go to Oh shit He was gay and we got away from him. Oh, this one. He was taking a dick in the butt. Oh, we go to Atlanta. He was taking a dick in the butt. So he went over there to Atlanta. We distanced ourselves. I ain't going to lie. And now, he went right there. But he did it so beautiful. Nah, it's a fire verse. This whole song is fire. This whole song is crazy. Hey, boy, what's going on? I feel no weight when you don't respond, dog. I know your heart and I know I pawn I know a lot is on your plate and more is on your mind But still I hit you time to time When you call the mind Oh yeah, you're right, Thurber I heard that big mall dial They know I couldn't tell you the cause I had no fitting on the cause I wanna come figuring this is my appreciation But hit me back when you get the chance Hit me back when you get the chance Hit me back when you get the chance So many of our peers passed away through the years My appreciation for airs in my lungs Has been enhanced Your quaint passed last night For medical conditions that were too advanced For doctors to intervene They couldn't do a thing They say he dwindled away Until the times was that of a figurine It seems just like a mystery I love the body Hey! We've been on with Timmy acknowledge Since we was kids he lives in a closet But that's things soon as he went to college Up there wild in the A&T Running with fruity types Dicking the booty types That was great You know, Jay Cole could have wrote this back then. It was, man. There's a couple records on this that are super Lupe-coded to me. And this is one of them. These sound like them. Yeah, this is from the cool. This is like some of them hooks from the cool. I used to love her redo is also very, very Lupe-coded. Shout out to Lupe. I feel like this, maybe in a perfect world, I feel like to J. Cole, this could be his final album. I feel like in his brain. I did it. I did it. I'm done. I'm independent. And actually, yeah, I'm not so in love with hip-hop anymore. I get that from I'm still in love with her and it's Lonely at the Top, which we'll play at some point. Both of those songs are telling me that J. Cole is like me. He wants to ride that bike and chill out. He's over this shit. Yo, dog. And he kind of been famous. You realize fame ain't what it's cracked up to be. You're not here for the fame. You grow up and you notice yourself listening to less and less and less and less hip-hop. For some people that were immersed in this shit, it gets to absolutely nothing. Niggas thought Kanye was crazy a long years ago when he said, my house is too clean for me to put hip-hop on. We judged him. We threw tomatoes at that nigga. But you hear J. Cole on Lonely at the Top and you'd be like, well, yeah. I mean, I identify with that at 45. You never liked rap. I listened to it. It molded me. It shaped me. And that's kind of what he's talking about a lot on here, which is why I fuck with it so much. We were raised by some of these rappers. For sure. We, when we saw music videos and rappers on interviews, that was in our blood, our DNA. And, hey, we were home as teenagers writing, dreaming. This was a dream come true to do shit like this. And then you get in it and realize, oh, it's all a farce. It's all. It's all smoking. It's not what it was cracked up to be. The rappers I looked up to and the rappers I admired are not that. They're caricatures of themselves. The songs are from song makers and song writers and writing camps. They're not genuine thoughts. He didn't really write this record. That was passed down from A&R because Ludacris didn't want it. And it's like, huh? Where am I? Where am I? Oh, we can't get paid from certain shit. Oh, we got to go on the road. We got to get money on the road. We got to fight for just everything. Now, why? Why? Why? I don't need this shit. Why? Especially when you're as successful as he's been. Like, yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, man. Yeah. I totally feel him on this. My problem with J. Cole is he's anti-climatic. Yeah. Yeah. Although he gets into some... Later in the record, he gets pretty animated. On this too. I want to play Poor Thing because... Ooh, that's another one. Why did he do his man like that? Poor Thing is another one of the better songs. Period. To me. On this entire project. The best of the best to me is the last four, five. On which disc? Two. Oh, see, for me, on both discs, if you cut off the final four or five songs, I'm great. Yeah, you miss a song. Oh, wait. Really? Really? You got one more. I'm absolutely. Oh, buddy. This is incredible. Put on drum and bass for me. Well, let me get to poor thing. Let me get the poor thing because he's serving some local nigga up. Also, why I'm not mad at the Fayetteville shit. Great, great announcement. It is like we've been we've seen regional hip hop just killing. Yeah. Regional hip hop is looks to be on an upward swing. Even when I was wrong about take me through there, take me through there. But, yeah, it's back. So regional shit is back. I'm one of the best rappers in the world. Nobody's going to pay no mind in North Carolina. Why would I not? Why would I not? And he been doing that his whole career Yeah, he a hometown guy No, no, no, no, no, no Oh, I love this Oh, hey This is Boosie, right? Yup I love the Crucial Conflict Boosie 360 he or I love it Oh Oh, a local nigga, you thought he was done right there because he started talking about his pride and ego. Not at all. He right back on your ass. Oh. Oh, and you know he about to fuck you up now. He started a hymn What are you talking about what did to bug it on this one I'm just feeling well. I'm fucking. I'm fucking. Started grown up with niggas that's having heat pump, bitch. You more like he than them niggas. You still a heat pump, bitch. You can't hide it with tattoos on your police pump, bitch. Imagine being one of the top rappers in the world and hearing that shit that local dude said. Flaming them up. Yo, there's no other album or album rollout or album concept that I would be able to just shoot at the local nigga that everybody in my hood heard. He is flaming this local nigga Hey local nigga man DM me or something man Yeah I gotta What happened How you got your man going I Can I keep just switch in the back of my mind? I got a piece of this That's when I started rhyming and making beats Wait before you was lying about touch a key Heard you say I ain't real That's your belief huh bitch look look I'm back in the video so we can see punk bitch Don't shoot me the fair one when we Weep punk bitch and they'll be bringing no Hey Yo, J. Cole just said At the end of the song to the local Nigga to let's drop your load Let's meet up. No guns. You said I ain't real. But I'm back with a fair one, right? So now let's see if I'm real. Holy shit, this nigga gonna ride the city bike to the beach. Yo, I fuck with this city bike. Nah, because the world don't know we're on it like that. But back home, sometimes it'd be that one person. Nah, yo. You? I absolutely love that. Let me see. Legacy. Superfire Girl Joint. Superfly Superfire Girl Joanne I'm not gonna beat you down Bounce Road Blues Thames Come on Stop it That's my Alchemist Future J. Cole Yeah you can't miss it Yeah stop On which one Bounce Road Bounce Road That's what you're talking about Oh Bounce I'm fucking it up Bounce Road Blues To me is That's one of the better records One of the better records On the entire album Shouts out And back to Mark's feature point That's what made me realize J. Cole for me Is Is to monotone for double disc. And then he's monotone for double disc and J. Colby's. And I'm saying that as an MC that also was monotone, more monotone than him. He does more with his singing and with his vocals than even I did. But he don't have the voice for double disc. So when Tim's came on, It was such a breath of fresh air for me. For sure. It was such a, when Burner Boy came on disc two on that, what am I yearning on that flip? That's the other thing about disc two. The Mobb Deep flip, I did not love that. That's one of my, no, it's the realest flip. Yeah. There's two Mobb Deep flips. Oh, okay. There's Drop of Gem Little, which was on this end of. No, you know the one. I'm talking about the Villas. I didn't love that either. One of my favorite beats of all time. I did too much with it. That's one of my favorite beats of all time. So I did not love that. Didn't love what he did with the DMX. How's it going down? Some of the flips I didn't really love. And for me, those were on disc. But back to disc one, Bunce Road Blues. I feel like we got to play some of that. We got to play a little bit of that because come on, man. Come on. Fire. This is fire. North Carolina, what up, what up, what up? South Carolina, what up out there? Legacy is really fine I'm not gonna play it But Legacy is fire All of y'all niggas Just put me through the ox Run from the cops And I don't get it I ain't suggest any fire Your weapon is 12 But hell Why in the fuck do we fail? The niggas just looking like And he did this though right, one verse, one verse to move, move out the way. Hey! Oh Absolutely fires we know we did it beat alchemist alchemist fucking alchemist Alchemist I love you Birth and a half I love that most of the beats are doing something to help with the for me that helps with the monotonous tone They got the blood thrown Y'all lying, man. Come on, stop it, yo. Stop it, yo. Put your fucking faces around. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. I'll not freeze. Yo, what, what, new accounts? What up, what up, what up, what up? Wake it up over there. What's up, what's up? What's up, y'all good? I'm great. Y'all lying on this if y'all not fucking with this. This song. This song no I like the beat That the only thing I like about this record This particular song Really I like it Even with the Lil Usher drum He said it regular It 7 I like I didn get to disc two I heard mostly all of disc one And if you're saying, this one is the best disc... Nah, disc... you like this one. Disc two. You don't like disc two. You don't like disc two. I don't like this one. Well, I don't know, cause you guys going back to school. Motherfuckers, man. I didn't know what that was. I just rolled on my wheel and hit the puffin' And lay back in my seat Oh yes I'm knocking Tim's future Alchemist And I like this shit And Cole You make him a success record Nah this shit is a vibe yo Oh Bro blue immediately into who the fuck is you again? One of the better song like this on the entire project We're gonna get I didn't hear what y'all heard I didn't hear that I didn't hear that Maybe I was so blown away with Who the fuck is you and what I've heard thus far Into the album Remember who the fuck is you is track 8 on disc 1 Right I'm satisfied I'm pleased On disc 1 You had 8 songs I've been grooving You've killed this conceptually You've hit Fayetteville You've hit stories Like I'm thinking that he about to fucking If this is the start We off Yeah Come on man Yo and let me just tell you I'm retired And the fans never did Say I picked a great beat But the second half Of who the fuck is you That beat is absolutely insane To me That beat That's vinyl That beat is absolutely insane. To me, guaranteed to make any studio session that a real rapper is in turn the fuck up. That beat is like, oh, it's like total no one else mixed with like fucking Can't Stop, Won't Stop, Young Guns mixed with. That second beat, sick. Also, the music is doing a lot of helping with him for me. Okay. Like, this is crazy. This whole shit This is fire In terms of arrangement Lyrically His flow He's killing again This is fire Once again Who the fuck is you? Who the fuck is you? Man this is the joint from the trailer So we finally get to hear the whole thing now Out the way Out the way Out the way Out the way Out the way Out the way Come on man That's crazy Play it here, homie. Play it here, homie. Play it here, homie. Play it here, homie. Play it here, homie. You can use your band. The style of the Unibrab Unibomber. Who maneuver through the drama with the suit of armor. Moving calmer than the bullet duck in funeral parlors. First the hoot and hollering, and then the shoot to start up. This was the song where I realized one of the things that frustrates me about J. Cole, which is he's one of the best rappers in the world. Uh-huh. And then that's it. For me. I get that. Me too? And then that's it. What do you mean? It's not an event. It's not. He sounds like. He for me. Only for me. Dreamville people. Please don't kill me. He for me. Like I was reminded a lot of Nas on this album. You can tell. It sounds like the best rapper in the world. that has just been observing his entire life. Just looking. Like Hove said, you witnessed from your post-pads, scribbled in your notepad and created your life. I don't think that's whack. Hove did that as a diss, but I don't think that's whack. To be able to observe something, that's fly. And J. Cole, as I'm listening to his story about North Carolina, When I leave, I leave with, what'd you do? Like you were the most talented guy that rapped the best, that knew it probably wouldn't get popping from North Carolina. So you bounced away with some motion. Like it was rap. You did it. You lived your absolute dream. But in terms of the beat starting and me thinking that I'm about to hear like a new experience, This album, almost too many stories for my liking. I get that. Because he can't, for me, like on disc two, he told a story, and I get what he was doing, about him pulling up to get gas. Yeah. And somebody asking for a picture. I love that. he done storied me so much before that point yeah i didn't feel like this was necessary there was no twist there was no plot this was y'all went to the gas station to get gas i try to hide because people recognize me and i hate being famous i identify with that and somebody wanted a picture i'm like dog if we on a double disc and that's the moral of the story Scrap the song Yeah agree Nah Scrap the song I'm not mad at the song I like that The whole purpose is Everything that happened at You know 39 When I go back to To the city Yeah you walking me through That everyday The Yeah somebody asked me for a picture And I can frame this I'm putting you in my place As the person who was here at 29 Leave Y'all know what my career did Now I'm back 10 years later I'm putting you in my shoes Of everything that I'm witnessing And going through But your shoes I'm not mad at that But your shoes was boring at 39. I love Raps Buston. Your shoes was boring at 29. No, they were not. No, they were not. No, they were not. That's where we differ. No, they were not. That's where we differ. No, they were not. He left, got lit, went back home at 29. Y'all never seen nothing like this. That's not not lit. That's not not lit. I went through that. I went through that on Clutex. Jersey City was in an absolute uproar of Clutex. He's the man out there going back at 39. Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about the way it sounds. Okay, yeah, yeah. He lit. Is that what he's like, the Matic? By 39 he is falling out of love with hip-hop if I'm listening to his words And that's what it just comes off as to me. That's all that's all I want to get to the second half of this shit just because I think it's crazy Interrogation rooms getting questioned by Zane Lowe That's absolutely crazy to me That's absolutely crazy to me Uh, y'all wanted to hit some drum and bass, right? My bass is fire. Let me see. Let me see what y'all see. Let me see what y'all see. Let me see what y'all see. I got too much on my plate, and I know you can't relate. They show love it, it be safe for me. Come on. Should be covering up the head. I like this. I like this. For me, this should have ended this one. It's not like the even though I like let out top lowly Thomas It's a little bit of an aside from the rest of the project like the rest of the project is he's 29 in Fayetteville lonely at the top It's like current day I'm kind of talking about the same shit, but It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. The let out was unique. I don't hate it, especially toward the second half. I like that. I saw a lot of people not like it. I get it, though. Again, it's the narrative. It's all the narrative. I get it. It's part of the story. Again, it helps for me to break up some of the monotony of his vocal tone. but if it weren't there I wouldn't care I feel the same way about Bombs in the Ville I definitely feel that way about that one and also I understand why it's there but if Lonely at the Top wasn't there that tells a lot of the stories it's kind of like the narrator or something exactly yeah but I just thought he was doing such a great job with the story that a lot of disc 2 wasn't needed whole new story without substance for me I will agree that it's less narrative based He tried to slip a couple records that are just more stand alone I feel like there's not much on disc one that's stand alone I see why he didn't really pick a single because there's not really a single I couldn't find a single one I think that the Tim's record is a single I think that the Burner Boy record is a single I think that Legacy is a single And there was one more record on here that I thought was a single I don't think that he goes into album rollouts in that state of mind, especially as an independent anymore, like single, single, single, single, single. But do I think that there are records on here that are going to continue to pick up and support the project? Yeah. It don't sound like just all for the backpackers, all for the J. Cole heads, and all for the lyrical miracle niggas that don't. Oh, I agree. I think that he tried to still appeal. I love the intro on disc, too. I do. I love it. The fall off is inevitable. I already had. Yeah, we had that one. So, cool. The Villas, did y'all care about? I'm trying to hear what y'all heard on disc two. The Villas is the one with the second mob flip, the one you said you didn't like. Yeah. I love it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm good on that one. I love it. I'm cool. I'm cool. And then Old Dog is disc two. I love that one. Let me find that one. Here we go. Rain, rain Who the fuck is at? It's the nom nom nom So you know a nigga set How to dance these days How to dance these days How to dance these days How to dance these days How to dance these days How to dance these days With a top of the day How to dance these days Yeah Behind the zoom stage With the blueprint Yeah, it made me Old dog With some money tricks At a gate No more record here Yeah, I'm fresh about to say Yeah Uh, I'm getting That's where you find me in Right off of 95 we had a little time meeting Down in the middle if you're real then you can chime in Now real don't mean that you got pay for all your five minutes So tell it right to all your clients that don't mind seeing Now being real to me you stand on what the fuck you do We on the map we ain't Atlanta but we snuck on through I had a plan put on the lead I got a custom too It's open carry so it's random niggas touching tools It's nothing new they carry hammers in the public schools Talking down but in a fucking tune There's nothing new between me It's just cool to me Yeah, it's not my favorite It's just cool It's just cool to me That was the first song I ran back afterwards Like, oh really? Let me run this back again That was the one? Yeah I get it For your music taste, the beat, I get it Yeah Yeah Oh baby Yeah the shit I broke I'm just saying The shit I broke I'm just saying The shit I broke Yeah Referring to your wife As a life sentence is hilarious No that is funny That's fucking hilarious And yet I understand Jeez For all my niggas Doing life for day one Who held it down When the credit was A1 You thanking God You was looking for a great one Yeah see that was That was cool Another record to me that just helps with breaking up monotony because you're on disc two at uh track five but to me it didn't need to be all this if you condense these projects to 16 17 records i think you're having an entirely different conversation and even that's a lot of music 16 and 17 records on a project i don't think he should he shouldn't have had no problem taking off at least seven of these records zero problem doing that that's that's my opinion especially if we weren't gonna get uh some more rap features rap features rap features help on it on a double disc yeah i get what you're saying i just don't think that was an intention not at all because he was telling the story and he don't need y'all to tell his story right so i get it i feel like this should be his last project ever I feel like it won't be his last project ever It never is And listening to this Sometimes it is Listening to this project Don't tell me You going off to Yeah I don't think so I think we'll just get a different J. Cole I think we'll just get rapper J. Cole As opposed to like Life story J. Cole from now on Nah I think we're gonna get What was it 39 I think we get 45 J. Cole Telling us what Now Cause now there's a whole new life I'm independent now True I own all my shit now Now I'm moving a whole different way now. And now we're going to get that version of your life. And in your heart, you're still a poet. You're going to write. Oh, true. That don't mean release. Yeah, exactly. That don't mean release. And if you're listening to him at 39, nothing sounds like he wants to continue to be seen or heard. He sounds like he's totally ready to do the Frank Ocean. I see him doing the Andre 3000 thing, going away and then popping out with, I mean, maybe not a full project. Well, even then. A couple joints That's not really heard and seen Oh yeah Yeah He don't sound like he would He's not gonna be active Yeah he'd sound finished with niggas I ain't gonna lie And I did it all Again what else I said this before What else does J. Cole have to prove I didn't feel like life sentence Was necessary Because I had Legacy And the Burner Boy record Let me get the only you Hold up Cause Another one of my favorite records on this project One of my favorite records on this entire project Only You, Burner Boy Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey I don't ever walk you to a crappy room Sometimes the wind is hitting That beat is hard That beat is hard Let me get the burner boy band Let me get the burner boy We'll be right back. Dread the fresh air when this came, I ain't gonna lie to you. Hey, girl. So I like living like this. Come on, man. Maybe I'm fine. Y'all too stiff in the shoulders when Cole here. So I ain't gonna lie. I don't like it. Maybe time I start my day. Hey. What do you like on my phone? What do you like on my phone? I need no reason to be because the truth I put me to be. And I'm loving Maybe that match that you Ooh Locking for My babies love me more What am I locking for? And I'm not released again What am I locking for? Come on, man My babies love me more That's hard, man We have now reached the entree portion of the album, Tumi This is the steak, this is the lamb chops This is where the album is. That's a single. These are songs. Where? Right now. Man Up Above. I love her again. What a quick stop. I know you don't like that, but I do. And the whole world is a bit. Oh, and you're really going to be mad at what I got to say. Let's go to Man Up Above. Man Up Above. Let's do it. health health I hate this flip. What? I hate this flip. What are the verses I love? I don't need a J-Lo flip. He's been good for a corny vocal flip. You paid for going in, the fuck I'm going out for With niggas stretching shit like a new school house For a night's rearrange But when these boys are shooting, niggas start breathing strange Heartbeat is faint, now it's out, he the same I'm not German, but the wheels currently turning on my mama's automobile Certainly, y'all, why y'all prefer to be hard Memories of my dog's weight, it's hurting me, y'all Then when them two are so close, ours curves be drawn Innocent as a child, but where are we all? Before the hose and the smoke that arose From the black and white cigarette holes Trigger slipped the biggest fellow Stemming on his torso and talked him in a mellow But no mid-range ice Hold back to the basket The streets raised him a bastard Wrapped in a casket Best he wear, don't you dare go laugh At the tragic passing of somebody's son By somebody's gun Give a fuck if you ox When distant and dead The karma tends to come at you I, I promise you Pray for forgiveness The Lord's rap can astonish you I'd rather remodish you on this record Then in preps with perceptions of a designer shoot Fuck Gucci, fuck Louis, fuck Chagall Fuck Balenciaga, how we gon' excel? Soon as niggas make it out, they turnin' Hollywood as hell I knew Buddy caught that body, but hell, I probably shouldn't tell A real star That's fire Amazing Hard, that record is hard That's fire, we are at the Lamb Chop Bitch, what's up, man? It's cool to me I'm dead ass like I nobody can he's one of the best rappers in the world yeah but for me this has no replay value like I'm not going to be listening to this in my car that's just the honest truth like it's anti-climatic like I think that he kills shit on so many features because it's somebody else's song I think the production on somebody else's song I think hook on somebody else's song when he gets on it it has all of those other components now you just adding his genius on it so it's just amazing when he his feature run is amazing but when i listen to him it's just it's it's blah for me it's just blah can he rap of course nobody in the world can undoubtedly say this nigga can't he's probably the best one of the top 20 rappers ever but the songs and it's just real real real monotone it's just like if you hear one you hear more almost oh i disagree with that the content of these songs are all very very different yeah No, I'm not. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. It's just a one monotone flow throughout the whole entire album for me. Nothing after Man Above that I need. Shit. Oh. You're blogging. Absolutely. You are blogging. You did. I love her again. After Man. I don't know if you listen to him enough. Listen, I love her again one more time. Yeah. I did. And you know what you did. Multiple times. I believe you. I'm saying one more time. Just for the people. He's a student of rap. No, no, no. Listen, I'm going to hear this differently than y'all. He's a student of rap rap. I'm going to start there. I'm not going to hear this the way that y'all are hearing it. One. Two, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying it's bad. But do I think that his version of I used to love her and how he sees it, I love how he picked it up from right where Common left off. I love what he did But do I feel like that was Needed No I don't And I'm about to say I don't love that beat either Oh I like the beat I thought it was interesting to pick up where comment left off But to sample a different comment song While doing what I used to love Right after that is what if I'm good Stop it my nigga You do not need to hear J. Cole Go through big and pox Murder and say What if these things Tell me y'all needed that. Tell me y'all needed that. I like that concept. I liked it conceptually. I just don't think that he delivered with the song. I like the concept. I like how he tried to incorporate Bigg's rap style, Pac's rap style into the song. It just didn't hit a home run for me. Again, the concept is fire. It didn't hit a home run for me. I think it was unneeded in the story of this album. I will say that. Leave that vagina, Lucas, bro. Let him do his thing. See, this is like, nothing about this is nothing but the concept, really. And that's like almost later. But it makes sense with this concept. out on the floor. She's all about the money now. They labeled her a whore. I heard what they were saying, but to me, she seems yore. For me, at 39, he don't have much to say. He don't. And for me, that's evidenced by what the fuck he talking about, which is a common flip. Yo, Biggie and Pac, if they were still around, nigga, you're 39. What are you doing? You was just lit in 29. You was tearing niggas up. You're back in the hood. They loving you. The old bitches is back. They hitting your line. Where you at? What you're doing you hype about it at 39 he's already out of love with everything yeah don't know this should impress me no more and it sounds like that i don't feel like this shit no more but it sounds like that's why you don't need 24 songs that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying it shouldn't feel like that to me and and to your point when you first started you know i was trying to be quiet when he woke me up a little bit my nigga everybody's been waiting on this album for two years so if you set the bar up there with your track lights and all that other shit i don't really want to hear about your life story i don't put that shit on the mixtape for your local niggas to know the nigga locally that you're talking about the world don't necessarily want to know about lil rah-rah that's coming for you uh locally not me and then for him to get to the end of this song and say oh shit she was like that from jump then you one of the best mcs in the world didn't need this to convey it for me that that's for me and i disagree with earlier well i don't even say disagree because i don't know exactly that's what you said somebody said mentioned ice you mentioned something about it has nothing to do with their battle but i feel like when he stepped back from that battle i think people did expect to like get something when this came out you know what i mean right because if you you know if you want to say look that's not good for because i respected that to know that that's not good for you but i'm totally waiting for you to do something like once you put yourself out yeah i think that he did this is a much more difficult album to make to me than trying to just do like make some slaps like this is the this is the undertaking to tell a story for fucking an hour and 41 minutes. I understand why you might not like it, but I understand as an artist and someone who's in these studios and someone who tries to push some boundaries, like, that is much more difficult than just, like, getting some dope beats and blaming it and getting Future on the record. Like. All right. I'm not mad at. I can respect. I can respect the attempt and still not. Like, yeah, for sure. That's me. You know, be my nigga to this table. Damn, whatever. Whatever. Also, I thought this part of disc two had some of the beats that Weren't as lit as the jazzy disc one beats like this is very This gives lo-fi to me The streets is a bit upset You claiming that you fucked my bitch for check Instead of escalating I can't even hear that Yeah, I was hoping you can't I can't listen to it I don't want to hear this shit I feel like My problem By now he said everything that he wanted to say And needed to say And we could have closed this album And been off to the races But some of this is extra This is extra whatever I just feel like He's too good of a rapper to do that right there I don't need that from you Fair The bar is high for J. Cole, my nigga If you were gonna take that concept You had to deliver better than that And again, to my earlier point Mortal Man exists Like Kendrick kinda touched on the Tupac thing And kinda did it better Yeah This is quick stop This is three in a row with I like this I love this one This is cold call that I know right here. Yes. I still be turning your head Just to confirm it That dread-headed Tall fella is cold I try to walk with the hood Whether the weather is cold Whether the weather is warm It's just to cover the fog We're doing wrong Yeah, you gonna fuck with that one? I'm with you Again, yo, the raps are the raps It feels like to me He found a beat with some music That he loved so much Because I love that music This didn't call for nothing you're not saying nothing on here I didn't need the M Renegade flow for whatever you there's nothing he's saying on here that we need this on a double project listen I like it I like it but if you're making a double album whoever is on the vote team if there even is a vote team at some point he might have records he left off I'm sure like maybe it's a deluxe coming but this for me didn't feel like it was that important for the story or dope enough to be in yeah but i love the music because i love the saxophone phone and the strings and but this flow is bothering me he done killed the whole album and now i got oh yeah this is the one yeah give him the fuck now pack this up Nigga, I know you don't have nothing to say because you had the gas station in a hoodie and somebody asked for a picture Yes, J. Cole. Somebody wants to take a picture. Yes. I'm sorry that that's such a big event No, no shut the fuck up this for me For me this is the adult version of him telling us when he lost his virginity in the class I think that's totally different This is it, don't burn to that You didn't have nothing to say You went to the gas station Somebody wanted a picture And now because you just need another song We have to hear that story See, I see it more like You know what? What happened in the story? What happened? I challenge you Since y'all love it so much At the end of it, what happened? My family song just sounded good Alright, I'm done with you We're done with you Let's listen Let's listen I heard a dude on the corner Sound like he's talking to me Hey, bro, you smoke marijuana I got that packet you need and I can smell the aroma. I told him nah, I'm alright I never once was the stoner. The tank was taking so long to fill up. I thought it was broke Could feel the curiosity coming from buddy that spoke. Right then he start to approach Hey bro, you look real familiar. I said I get that a lot as he got closer got clearer. Oh shit, that's cold nigga Wait, what you doing over this way? Bro, I was just 13 years old when I got hold of your tape Nothing about him at 39 sounds lit back on there's no story I don't want to there's nothing happening there's no stories being told there is to me the point is that he goes on his whole kind of pilgrimage back home and by this point he realizes that home will never be home again because even when he's in a hoodie even when he's pumping gas even when niggas trying to sell him weed just some regular every man shit he gets recognized and he can't be he can't be he can't be himself even at home because now he's still got to take pictures I'm telling you that's how I felt And maybe I can relate to it But that's not the Sopranos ending That he thinks it is I think it is Like you can't go home again I mean It's gonna be a taste I feel you But it didn't feel as Anticlimactic As That don't sound Anticlimactic Not to me Not to me Google's free with that man It makes you add that Ecstasy Climactic I hear you I'm with you What you was saying You had your hand I was about to ask Mark Like once you reach Any level of notoriety Or any level of popularity Nigga I'm not J. Cole And you can't go back to East Hanover. You get what I'm saying? I'm with you. Yeah, like if we say him at his word and this is his last album, have you... Nowhere in the world do you think... I don't like hearing this from Ish because he had a song called Wawa. And I'm not J. Cole. That is my point. Wait, you had a song called Wawa? No. That's a joke. But I never know what you... I'm not J. Cole. If somebody is saying to J. Cole and Dreamville fans 10 years ago, yo, J. Cole is going to announce his final album. It's going to be a double disc. Track 11 on it. It's going to be about him realizing he can't go back home because home will never be the same again. That's the narrative of the whole album. Yeah, I was going to say, you're saying it like that, but if you put it in context of the entire what disc two means, it makes sense. It's like punctuating it. Yeah, it makes sense in the concept of the entire disc two. I'm totally with you that some records could be slimmed down. LeBron James go to Akron. What the fuck are we talking about? I don't understand. You say Z go to Marcy? That's the big epiphany? That's like Matt Damon saying to Ben Affleck or saying to the niggas in the rip. It was $150,000. It was $200,000. That's what. Yo, niggas was here with you from day one. Since mixtape. You got way home. You left home. You was styling on it. You was big three. You beefed. You unbeefed. You apologized. The mixtape you gave us more of your actual thoughts currently. Now you're doing concept shit, but at the end of this, and I like the Ocean's outro. I don't love that. I like the music. I like the music on the outro. I like the record right before that. That's probably the best rap performance. The whole world is the bill. I think that's the one. Really? Where he starts ramping up the intensity and all that shit? Yeah. Yeah, you can tell. You can kind of tell, too. I think he challenged himself because you can hear Lupe. You can hear him. Yeah. He tried to do the big in a pocket. You can hear Nas In the beginning of the album You can hear All of his influences You can hear Jay Electron You can hear niggas In this album That he evidently Looks up to And he wanted to Kind of Get they style off And the shit I just think that He didn't talk about Enough stuff To have 24 albums Bro I mean for 24 songs I'm sorry I just don't think Conceptually cool But just As far as the meat and potatoes It wasn't enough I think 16 songs This might be a classic That's what I'm saying Like I agree with that To me he rocked I think he robbed him. 18's 20, he could have did it. I think you can say that about every double disc except Life After Death. Which is why I say the bar is so high for a double disc. Some single discs, too. There's bad single discs where you took two or three of them records off. You got records on it. But, I mean, don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I like the album. That's cool. I like the album. There are some of these joints that I'm going to go back to, especially the girl joints, especially that Burner Boy, that Tim, that Legacy, them records. This is going to be around for a little bit, some of these songs. But in the scope of his discography, did it change much for me? Absolutely not. It's still probably Forest Hills Drive as his best project, with offseason being my favorite project. I flip flop those, but I'm right there. Yeah, nothing he did changed that. I kind of agree. I definitely agree. In the grand scope of this falls back towards earlier Cole. Really, honestly, for me. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, yo, this is if hold for that reasonable doubt last. It's not. No. Hell no. That's not true, J. Cole. Yeah. And I don't want to be a dick for saying that, but that's not true. But J. Cole, easily one of the greatest rappers that we have. I love that. I love that there's still somebody that actually appreciates the art form that is down to even take risks conceptually. Yeah. Not hit every mark. Like, please don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of these things, but just this album did for me also highlight some of the things that frustrate me about J. Cole. And I appreciate an artist willing to put out a project that's special to them. Word. Like, instead of just, okay, we got to do this. We got to, okay, we need to go get this feature. We need to get this producer. We need to. No, this is the project I want to make. Correct. I appreciate that. Even if I don't like everything about it, I'm still going to appreciate the fact that you went and I made a piece of art. He did. For my hometown, for my people. Because this album, no matter what I feel about it creatively, it did make me want to go down south. You did it. Yeah. The same way when Not Like Us came out, I was like, all right, I have to go to L.A. Just to feel the air while this is out. This gives me that. You got to be there. For North Carolina and South Carolina. For me, honestly. I should call someone. You did a great job. You did a great job. See how they rocking out there. I already know what they're doing up there. I already know. I already know. This nigga's got to be like a, that's what I'm saying. I love regional hip hop being back. And if you a god in your hometown. Get your shit up. Go ahead, dog. Go ahead, dog. I don't have nothing negative to say about it. Go J. Cole. Go J. Cole. Congratulations. And congratulations, J. Cole fans. I've seen a lot of y'all, like, happy y'all got this project finally. Oh, for sure. Here you go. And, right, good way to set off the year. Like, it's February. Yeah. Like, let's not be fucking selfish and entitled hip hop fans. It's February. this guy gave us a mixtape or a mix EP whatever you want to call it and a double disc along with just staying silent staying focused and presenting his art the way it was meant to be presented J. Cole the person and J. Cole the human and MC and MC but for me at 45 it's who you are as a human and person first the artwork will come the art will come later So, J. Cole, Dreamville, salute, man. Salute. Great job. And congrats. Great job. Congratulations. This is fully independent. I don't know what the business is, obviously, but it seems like it. Well, he said it. I ain't asleep no more. I'm done. I'm independent. Everything's fine. Shout out to Vinyls. Vinyls, you are absolutely amazing, dawg. T-minus. T-minus. Two brothers that know how I feel about them. Two guys that are absolutely amazing. J. Cole, Jake, one did the – you still love it? Oh, Jake, this is my whole crew, man. I got to come back. I got to come back, man. You got Jake. Yeah. Yeah, go Jake one. Shout out to the whole Seattle, man. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize Picks. All right, the big game is almost here, and there's no better way to cash in during America's biggest sporting event than Prize Picks, where it always feels good to be right. And since the big game is right around the corner, that also means this is your very last chance to get into the football action before next season. So close the season out the right way with PrizePix by getting $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. PrizePix is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less on two to six player projected stat line and you have your chance to win big. On PrizePix, how you play is totally up to you. If you want flexibility, choose FlexPlay where you can get paid even if one of your picks misses. And if you want the biggest payouts, go for the power play. No matter your play, PrizePix is a great way to put your takes to the test. And now for the Joe and Ish final picks for the big game. That's right. Now you can order your pizza and chicken wings in peace. You ain't even got to think about what you're doing on PrizePix. You know why? our good brother Ishmael is holding you down. You want to get down in Isha's new friend network? You want to talk to him about it? You want to chat with him? DM him? Fireside talk? You want to text like he got a Mike Jones number? A side phone? You want to chit chat with Ishmael himself? Let me give you some of the Joe and Ish pics of the week right here. We are going with Drake May for more than 220 passing yards Okay Stephon Diggs for more than 43 receiving yards Okay Sam Darnold for more than 5 rushing yards And Hunter Henry For more than 5 targets Yo, be sure to add us on socials At That's That Itch On Instagram and what's your Twitter name? We'll get right back to you. What's your name on it? Yo, if I win you some money, send me some spanking. What's your Twitter name? That's that ish. That's that ish on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, Grindr, LinkedIn, yo, Tinder. The Grindr is crazy. Bumble, Tinder. Hinge. That's that ish. Hinge. Unhinged. Mi Hente, he's still got his account. He still got his Black Planet account. You know where to find him. Listen, and don't forget, download the app right this second, and please use promo code J-B-P for your chance to win $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on PrizePix, where it's good to be right. We want to say congratulations to Matthew Stafford for winning MVP. Let me hit the round of applause for my guy, Matty. Matty Stafford announced he will be back for next year. I didn't doubt that at all. So, way to go, Matt Stafford. We want to congratulate the wide receiver over there for the Panthers. He won the offensive rookie of the year. Mouth Garrett for the defensive player of the year. Who else won that we need to shout out? Y'all don't know. Y'all don't know shit. Vrabel got coach of the year. Vrabel, coach of the year. Way to go. Way to go. Listen, man, congratulations to everybody that won. Big game on Sunday. Come on, what's your plan? What's your plan? I got the parks flyer so I know what's going on over here a little bad bunny car You need to bowl. Yeah, we think Cardi B is coming out. Oh, baby. Oh, yeah, I could see that Yeah, we'll take a baddie for that house already B is coming out. I could see what are we talking about? Who else who else gonna come out? They say Jennifer Lopez is in Vegas at a resident residency Ricky Martin. Attempting to sing. Alhamdulillah. Like trying to really hit him with the ball. Last thing I need is J-Lo's vocals up there. Great guy. I can't think of who else. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. Parks. Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. That's going to be lit, man. That's going to be lit. Yeah, I can't. Any predictions for the game? Any predictions? Seahawks. Seahawks by a lot. I got Seahawks by like a whole lot. I don't have a whole lot, but I'm comfortable. 17-1. By 10-plus. So if I were to bet money on the Patriots I could win some money then I got a word from A football insider Who shares a domicile with my brother Who told me I got to phone with him And he said to absolutely put the money on the Patriots Yo, not for nothing They be knowing They be knowing Who should he put his money on? His name is Shitty I don't know why I'm with who we should place you want with shitty at all Yeah, well, I had my money for his predictions have been right. That's the nickname I would inquire about yeah That's a nickname. I would have to it was the origin He upstate his name. She liked him upstate. I don't know man, bro You'd be communicating Moments got the phone when he took my brother Yeah, I ran for moments. She won't change her and I I like the bottom of the back. I gave brother star seven. He's a 5%er. I told him peace God and I gave him some encouraging words. He's a girl. Y'all know somebody, don't call me white girl. Put me on hold and let everybody know that you on the phone with, don't call me white girl. Watch how your life changed. It changed. I got Seattle special teams scoring points. I got Seattle defense scoring points. Drake May is still a second year quarterback. I got the lights being bright. Yeah, I got it. I got Seattle by double digits. Double digits. I got Seattle by double digits. And I might put something on it. I think Seattle will win. Final game of the year. I don't think the game is going to be as far-fetched as y'all think, though. And I could see a world where New England wins the game. If Cardi B is performing, which I believe she is, that means that she'll be at Super Bowl with her man that she's in love with. Do I trust Stephon Diggs to go to bed early on a Saturday night in the Bay? I do not. Do I trust Boot and Travion Henderson and all of these young Patriots to go out there and be the old Patriots? You knew wherever them niggas was going, they was going to focus. And Gronk didn't count. Wes Welker wasn't turning up in the streets. But Gronk, you thought, could break day to night before and go out there and do everything he needed to do. These Patriots, I don't really get that feeling from. Congratulations to everybody in New England. What a quick rebuild. What do you guys think about Tom Brady? Because I'm not going to drag us with worse take for too long. What do you guys think about Tom Brady not really supporting the Patriots winning publicly? And do you think he's justified in that? The second year, young, model-faced quarterback. They got him to the Super Bowl fast. Oh, you mean him? What the fuck are you talking about? Did what you did, nigga. Nah, it's a little different. It's different, of course. I'm just saying. But Tom Brady was the young, chiseled, model-faced nigga that came in out of nowhere on some injury shit and got us up here. Yeah, but Drake May was like number two pick or some shit like that. He was high. I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying is Tom Brady should support them niggas. Why? Depends on the relationship. Why? Don't he got to? Why would he support? Why? Why does he have to? He don't have to do shit. I'm saying. He's playing the fence. He's playing. He's straddling the middle right now. He's a second. publicly because whoever thought that he would have a broadcasting job that paid a billion dollars to where we would have to. All right. And whoever thought that you would have that in the past would be in the Super Bowl. It's also tricky now because he's with the Raiders. So that's a lobby. And he's with the Raiders. Yeah. If I'm Tom Brady, I'm not mad at and not publicly supporting the Raiders. Dog in the beginning, Troy Aikman, the nigga used to be cursing the fucking Cowboys. They kind of settled in our mediocrity now. But back then, they was cursing us the fuck out, bro. Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, them niggas to be mad at hell when we used to be doing dumb shit and losing games. Mad, mad, like visibly mad. So I think that your heart is with the organization that you played for. I don't think there's nothing wrong with if he said, yo, I would prefer for New England to win. You think Tom Brady's heart is in New England? Because I don't. Yes. Oh, I don't. I don't. I don't think that at all. Okay. Nothing since his divorce, nothing since he left and won with the Bucs, nothing tells me that his heart is over there. Listen, I'm not having a Super Bowl party. I'm not having a Super Bowl kickback. I'm not having a Super Bowl get-together. My girl is not going to be here, so patriarchy is not existing, which means there's no food. I'm not ordering wings and pizza for a bunch of hungry niggas. I'm on Zetbound. I barely eat. I'm not going out of my way Super Bowl Sunday to do nothing. I might make some chicken dip and a sausage egg and cheese if I'm in a really good mood. But I plan on sitting in front of, huh? You said chicken dip? Chicken dip. Like buffalo chicken dip? Buffalo chicken dip. Are you allowed to do that? He makes with a cook. I make an amazing. Go in here, Joey. I make an amazing buffalo chicken dip. That's been good on, Joey. And I've been saving recipes for dips that I've been seeing on Instagram and some soups. I know I used to like Spanish. She's like collard green dip? Is she Spanish? Yeah. Recipes you're saying? It's cool. Oh, the chefs I've been looking at? No, they're not Spanish. You feeding into a narrative that's been painted And misrepresenting me I like soul food If you didn't know, soul Soul food, now that's been for life Change cuisine That's been for life, my brother Not to change cuisine, ain't funny I mean this nigga over here with chicken casserole Shut the fuck up I don't want to hear that white shit you be eating Anyway, where was I? We were talking about Super Bowl Oh yeah, so ain't nothing fun happening at my house for Super Bowl. I'm going to have a candle or instant lit. I'll have the game on some surround sound speakers, but don't expect like a big hurrah. And if you just hit me on the humbug, don't think you're coming and it's going to be just shit laid out everywhere. My girl is back home buying all this Super Bowl football Make the table pretty tight You such a dweeb Like I get the people that into doing shit like that but when real niggas do it it like ugh No, and her team there. That's cute. Oh, that's true, too. People do that when they hometown team go. Hometown team. That motherfucker ain't been to Boston in 37 years. I still don't. That's my home team. Yeah, I know. I know it is, man. I might go to Boston. Her mom is a fan. and have your team in there. Oh, my team. Knock it off. I love you, baby. Peyton. Peyton. Yep. Back to music. Back to music. LMA put out a phenomenal project. I can't wait to listen to it. I ain't listen to a single note. Yeah, I know. I ain't even an R&B dude. The album. Y'all know that. I listened to it yesterday early and I was just like, I ain't had nothing to do, so I listened to it. Yeah. That shit is fire. She has a fire project. Shouts to the executive producer on that one. You might be an R&B dude when you're in the house, though. When you in the house I might see you getting in your bag Before a little cunnilingus Before a little cunnilingus For what? Is that it? You know the word Cunnilingus I can see you throwing on a little Max B folded Oh my god Before that cunnilingus I don't think I'm going to say Max B You're worried You're crazy You know Breeze wrote on the Max B Folder. I let your body decide if it's good or good for you. Thanks, bro. Scratching her shit up with that brough-ass beard. Getting Beijing all over the pussy. Getting your beard dye on the cun-winging. Getting Beijing all over the pussy. Nasty-ass face. Anyway, listen, Jason Tatum. EP of the year? Come on, man. Yeah. I don't know why you didn't try to take credit for this project. You really put your foot in this one. And I'm joking, of course, because I don't want to take away from the people that actually contribute it. Mustard puts together really good albums. Yes, he does. Mustard and Ella Mae, when she ain't putting a two-minute poem that nobody asked for at the end of the song. Oh, boy. Oh, buddy. Hey, she cut them bum-ass poems off the songs. We are out of here, my name. She heard us. It's good as a fan to feel heard sometimes, yo. Her album, because I was J. Colen all morning, and I put it in while I was in the shower, and I took a long shower scrubbing, scratching, all types of shit. Dirty-ass nigga. No exfoliation? All of that. You crazy? No, he only showered on pod days. You don't want to play with my shower regimen. He only showers on pod days? You don't want to play with my podcast regimen. You listen to Freeze about me? I mean. You listen to Freeze about me? Don't say nothing I said, nigga. You get knocked out like that. You get knocked out for saying something I said. I don't know. I don't feel like getting off the couch right now. I know you're going to. But at some point. I'm going to get back. Get sat back down. You're not done. You're not done. You're not brand new. But you're still sitting down. You're not brand new. You're still sitting down, though. That's true. Because I love you. I ain't doing that for you. If that boy get up fast, he's going to see stars. That nigga dizzy on. He has three grapes and two spoons. He's a little grand pool. That's sweet. I look good. You look good. But I know you can't jump up quick. That blood should have fucked up. Let's be real. We all know this new shit is not the healthiest route. You know what I mean? I can jump on this stupid-ass couch. Don't let you jump up there. Jason Tatum, LMA. Phenomenal job on this project. Mustard. You did a great job. Shout out to Mustard. Really good project. In your phone and on DSPs right this second, if you haven't had a chance to check it out. Margot, you coming to work? What are you doing? I'm right there, crush you. I was with you, Mr. Wester Tark. You're not really cutting across. You're cutting behind. The album is called Do You Still Love Me? So go check it out. I can't wait to listen to it What are you trying to do? It's heat And hold up now Cause everybody was getting out of J. Cole's way For sure Smirks And I understand that However Sasha Keeble Put out her deluxe project Which I wouldn't normally be super excited about Because I hate when they make me buy a album that I already have However However Hold up now Is that how that goes? Oh, look now you gotta bother out Hold up, man. I'm just giving them a taste. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up, man. At this point I hadn't purchased this yet, but just rock with me At this point I was on the fence still, but I was jamming, I was jamming Girl, just want to thank you for your service Here he goes I'm trying to work on the leaders You think I'm so deep, it's not my body but it's In the leaders I'm serving your pain Now turn it off, they don't feel me yet, hold up Hold up At this point we hit purchase At this point we hit purchase on this project Shadda Stasik Evel It's crazy Take her back to the crib. Tell her to do her some kiss. Better take all our kicks off the fridge. Cause you don't want my face staring back at you. Making you feel guilty here for you. Yeah, slip off that wrong. Yeah, she's showing all of her tricks. That means she can't turn you on like me. Who won't love you like I know Who won't love you like I know You can go at a favorite day With somebody else Who won't love you like I know Shout out to her, man. Shout out to her. Sounds good. Her deluxe is crazy. Her album was already incredible, so she put five joints on there that also still sound great and sound like it's a part of the project. It didn't sound like she missed a beat at all. So I just wanted to highlight her. And shout out to the rest of you pussies that got out of J. Coldway, huh? Pussy smart. Shout out to y'all. Huh? Huh, Bruno Mars? I'm joking, man. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Shout out to J. Cold, man. Go North Carolina. Go North Carolina. That's another thing. At some point on the album, and I'm done with the album review, but I'm just random thoughts. At some point on the album, he did try to make us spell out Fayetteville. No. No. Like, you can't be so North Carolina that you spell out Fayetteville. Too many words. Too many letters. Sorry. Sorry. No. It wasn't for us. No. It wasn't for us. Nah, nigga, I'm from there. My roots is from over there. I can't spell pay it, Bill, without a nigga rhyming over the beat. Don't try to make me say it and sound cool. Also on the let out, like the let out, I like. It's a cool bot, but just for the let out, like for the let out. I can see them playing that in North Carolina at the let out. I can't. Just on some when R&B used to come on at that moment. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Good project. Good project. Go J. Cole. I'm happy for him, man. I'm happy for that guy. All right. Come on. Come on. Let's have some fun. Let's have some fun. Sister Scott is still on music. It's definitely fun. Y'all see Glorilla's sibling? Yes. Yes, I did. Definitely. I did. I did. I saw the interview. Apparently, she's not happy with the amount of support they're getting from Glow financially. And they went on TMZ about it. That's fucked up, first of all. Very. that you feel that your sister has an obligation to share the wealth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she got an obligation to share the wealth. We stay here, we struggle together. Took baths and boggles while the rest broach is out. Yeah, she obligated them friends, obligated. She doing everything for them. So, yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm obligated. What is it you think she is not doing for the family? What is the, you're making it sound like there's a real financial hardship. Describe what you're talking about. She's not doing nothing. Nothing. Nothing. She's not doing nothing to say. And she threw a little ooze and aah for her parents or whatever, but barely nothing. Because my mom was still clocking the clock at FedEx. Oh, she don't want to worry. Gloria got y'all believing this fake ass imaginary thing where she retired to him no she did not my dad retired because his time was up she was supposed to have retired my mama but she didn't my mama still clocking the clock at FedEx why does she owe it to you to support you and to support the family beyond what she wants to do it's her money right because don't go on on interviews talk about our struggle you want to do that that's not right you don't stand here and talk about struggling you are it's not one sibling you got nine this clip is long so i'm going to fast forward yeah all right we got it let me go to the end because this is important of that does she owe to you and she didn't actually get on the network? There was no one here knew. What evidence do you have of that brand? There's an Instagram video of it. And of course, she's always trying to make it look good for y'all. I did over here broke as a mother right now. Let's say she has $2 million. How much of that does she owe to you and the rest of the family of that $2 million? She can get out of it like $2,500 a piece. How much? 25,000 25,000 That's it? Just 2,500 flat? That would be right up 2,500 I think she would jump at that If that's all you want I think Lowe might jump at that But imagine her being on for four years And not giving her zero Nothing at all What does your mom think about you? I cut it off Bro Distinguished panel Bro That's you guys first of all they look so much alike that it was fucking me up because she she she is um she appears to be like a lesbian like she dressed like a guy a little bit or whatever i don't want to sue him but i checked her facebook she gay um and she looks just like a girl she just look a little older than her a little thicker than her so that's the first my book and the second one is like when it finally hit me that oh this baby a little slow you know like she's talking to harvey on TMZ like she talking to the Facebook live like she's assuming that Harvey follows Gorilla and know that she posted that she retired them people and all that like she's talking like she's in a conversation and then with the $2,500 the baby ain't do the math the baby said if the bitch got $2 million how much would you want and I guarantee y'all that when she got done with that interview somebody called her and said and broke it down to her and then it hit her like maybe I should have said $25,000 you know at the end of the day I would believe it more if another sibling came out. It's the only one. And the thing is this is all like debatable because some people feel like you owe your family. Some people don't. I don't feel like you owe them motherfuckers. Nothing. She's too young to have to take care of them people. You know what I mean? Please. I could not disagree more with your assertion that they resemble each other. Let me just talk. They maybe did. Hey, I'm sure there was a time when you were seven and she was eight And y'all both was just bad bilk, bad jawlines And just dumb looking in the face together in Wichita or wherever the fuck Where they was at? They were from Memphis Oh, they was in Memphis Oh, so yeah, when y'all were seven and eight I can see you both looking at each other Like yo we is some ugly Motherfuckers I can see that back in the day I'm not saying I'm saying that Because I think Gloriel is beautiful But I want to spend some time On the loser sibling And their point of view for me At some point One of us One of us Is going to say you know what I don't want to live like this no more I don't want to be ugly. I don't want to look like this no more. I want ass. I want some tits. I want a ball player. I want to leave this trailer home that we in. And I'm tired of opening my bedroom door and looking at the loser bitch version of me. With no ambition. No goals. No way. A trailer home was going to always be in the loser sibling's future. Niggas that got siblings out there, you was in the same crib. You know what it is when you know your sibling was going to be a loser for the rest of life, and you was going to glow up. So that's what happened. They don't look alike at all. Glow is chilling. Glow, glow, glow up. Glow, glow, glow up. This little stud finder face looking girl here. fam no no no and harvey weinstein no better than to go find harvey weinstein harvey einstein what's his name harvey from cmz you knew that you was going to put the phone or the zoom on the loser siblings see and this topics like these trigger me because i've had siblings calling the radio stations or niggas call them to try to get some dirt. And I'd be like, dog, of course they're going to be their version of the story. Hey, this motherfucker got lit, got rich, never helped mom, never helped dad. The whole family hated him. Hey, all that could be true. But guess what? Is that sibling lit right now? And are family members hitting them for a helping fucking hand when the mechanic bill cost more than you thought? You fucking right there. Stop it. I didn't pay the story no mind after Glowilla posted the text from her mother that said, daughter. Hey, yo, and when you're not the loser sibling, the parents text you different. Thanks. Thanks. Sorry. Sorry. I hope I'm not offending anybody out there. The winner sibling, the mom and dad is hitting like, yo, you held it down for me this month. Thank you, yo. I'm so proud of you. You became everything I thought you would and more. The whole family is appreciative. of you. Yo, Sarah would be in such a bind if you didn't come through and yada yada yada. That's what the text looked like. One blog posted that. I didn't want to hear from the sibling no more, but my girl sent me 2,000 memes a day that don't have nothing to do with the busiest day in the world that I'm having with work, so I have to know about this stupid ass story with the sibling. You know what I found interesting? The blogs found an old DV where the sister Studmaster 3000 is arrested for threatening Gloria with a pistol. So they've had issues in the past. It's nine of them. It's always been a story. They come from a very religious background. Gloria's name is Gloria Hallelujah. If I'm not mistaken one of the parents are like a member of the church like a deacon or something. So I'm just thinking of my name. Don't brush right by that. What's this little stud girl name? Hey wait. Loser Hey, hey, hey. Biggar, biggar now for me. Hey, loser sibling. Your sister's name from Rip when y'all both was bunny was Gloria Hallelujah, bitch. That's a fact. What did you think the future was about to play out like? What's his bitch name, Sam or something? Scarface. Scarface. Scarface. Girl, please. Victoria Woods is a real name. Oh, you was about to lose. Anybody the pair try to make big victory be in your name They didn't see a bright they didn't see a bright future for you The parents could spot it right out the womb Who's gonna be the loser sibling and who's gonna be the winner sibling? Honestly, I'm sorry if I'm triggering people out there to have like Beats with their parents because they were the loser sibling at some point, but some of y'all siblings are absolute losers We knew you wouldn't get no record deal girl. You wasn't about to save us You wasn't about to change the fucking generational curse you could barely make grits What the fuck was she talking about and then to get all the way to the end and they ask her what would you have needed? Fucking button cuz he just said that like I'm telling y'all twenty-five hundred to get it done That might be my overrate for everything from here on out I keep telling y'all every day I come to work, $2,500. I say that shit like the numbers that barely hit the fucking lottery with, rest in peace to Bailey. $2,500 is all you need. And y'all be trying to sibling me to death because that word should make us feel warm and cozy inside. Hey, some of y'all, we hate y'all. Siblings. We siblings. We wasn't close in the house. And we ain't picked you or had me. Nigga, we was in there about to kill each other whenever mom went to work. What the fuck are you talking about? Of course I blew up and didn't give you a penny. Shit was lit until you got here. Did you think I was going to blow up and give you a penny? I know you judge me. You don't have siblings. You can't relate. It's screwed up, nigga. How do you feel about your uncle? How do you feel about their fucking thing? Even when you really see the chain of events when Scarface goes live, she mad as shit. It almost gives she just ass up or something. And then when she goes live, she's like, I'll expose your favorite rapper. So it's like, now you're threatening me with it. It's just corny. Oh, you don't get it done. Not a lot of people who wasn't giving it before this. And not a lot of people in our position would ever cosign shit like this because what's going on in a family ever constitutes you doing an interview? Like, if you work at FedEx and you work at Target, why the fuck are you talking to TMZ? Why do you have a cell phone? How are you paying this, you broke, bum? The loser sibling, you be so shocked when they make, like, small accomplishments. I got my license. Yo, I got my license together. You be like, oh, look at you. He said that. Look at you. The loser sibling. The loser sibling been locked up your whole life. 30 years later, we got to celebrate because they in a hospital now. Yeah. Hey, you know. Hey, you know Jack got out of here. He in a home. Wait. What? Hey, all I know is Jack been out of my life. Before he back here loser sibling come on. Yeah, I don't want this bugging triggers me It really is gross it's like you know It's a criminal thing like you know like they the police had to come and break up a sibling fight That girl been jealous of her probably you know, I mean forever these little baby Probably went on when they was kids. I mean it was she or she could have been fucked up to a sister Always forget all you do once you tell them no. Yeah. We don't tell them what she done did for her. That's a fact. Especially after posting the text from moms, whatever. Yeah. You don't know how many times you don't look that little sister out. But now I'm saying no right now. He says, get up. And that's what happened. It becomes nothing. It becomes nothing. You're as good as your last yes. Because Glow Real Friends came out, too, and started talking now. I'm saying what? I didn't see that. Come on now. She just researched. I told y'all that my girl communicates through me. Shut up. they do the producers around here. She does produce for this part, so let me know that shit on her. Shout out to my baby. Hey, audience, any of them girly, sassy-ass topics that I bring up that y'all call me and gave for, it's really from my girl, and I think it's entertaining for the female audience. That's a good cover. But the friend says, bitch, where you was at when Glo was homeless? Oh. Where you was at when Glo didn't have two rocks to rub together and needed to stay on somebody's Couch. Where was all the siblings and the family then? See, that's what I'm talking about. They was broke through. Yeah. Mark. They was looking for rocks. I might have been on somebody else's couch. You know the other bad thing about making it? All of those back to J. Colum. You could see the missteps from people beneath you. Sometimes you walk up to them and you try to help them. Sometimes you knowing with your bright future and your potential and all of your, you got the brightest future. You go to the loser sibling, try to help them out one day. Hey, what's up with that food truck? I know you wanted to be a check. What's up, man? Loser sibling say some loser shit to you. Like, I just don't even know anymore, man. I don't know. I just want to go to the parking place. Yeah, I just need so much money, but I ain't taking it from you. I get it on my own. So it's going to take me 11 years to get that. And then once I get it, I'm a parking lot. Yeah, you're looking at the loser like, oh, you don't want help. Oh, okay. He is crazy. Okay. All right. Good luck. Good luck. Always got a grand idea. That's stupid as shit. The loser sibling won't call you. You're damn busy. Listen. What you think about Putting a plate On a tire Like a rim But cheaper to produce And you can eat all Like put a nigga down South and it's into the car You don't call a dime You be looking at Yeah yeah yeah You be looking at You lose his dick He's absolutely right He's fucking true The worst idea Is known to me Is your cousins What Carl told him We give him the soup for free Rhythm spoons You didn't even know that your mother motherfucker Was such a loser Because you only really kick it with them Until that one day you was free that afternoon And I tried to have a little talk with him You'd be like oh You are dumber than me and mom Even thought You try not to tell them That you and mom Me and your parents Think you are a complete Idiot You holding the family back a little bit And they always super entrepreneurial I can't work for people I'm not that kind of I can't work for a white man I can't work for a white man Nah yeah nah Wayne Linden you shit nigga Wayne Linden you nothing The loser sibling I can see the loser sibling Had a boyfriend before glow Nah nigga She was 60 She was 60 Oh shit She is She's the boy That girl been one of them for her whole life You can tell She dug in in the community. Nigga, go rewrite the H-R-A book. She got face tag. You know what I mean? The fade. The fade. Ain't nobody judging her for it. She's just gross. It's gross in general. She sound jealous. Another thing she kept saying, that's probably why the friend said something. It's a response. She said something. At first, she kept saying, well, you do for them friends. You do for them friends. It's just jealous shit. Some people are friends for their family. Yeah. I don't know. I see it different. I mean, I don't know what happened in their family because every family is different, right? So here comes some maturity. You know what happened. It happened to every black girl. It happened to your family. It happened to everybody's family. Everybody's family got this. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know. 95% of black families, if it ain't you, it's your uncle's set of kids. It's your aunt's set of kids. You know to lose a kid in your family. Yes, you do. But right now, you are that loser kid. You may be him. If you can't find a loser, you're it. Yeah. But, like, unless we got beef or some shit happened, I do feel like I owe you something. As my sibling. Ain't no way we grew up together And I'm got money And you homeless Or you want to couch some shit And I got millions I'm giving you something I think that it's admirable That you wouldn't let your sibling get to that point But I don't think you owe them that Well let me ask you a question Let's assume Scarface is right Do you owe your mom to retire her if you can afford to do it Does she want to work still? Is she working at FedEx in Memphis? Don't nobody want to work at FedEx The headquarters She's not sure what she do there One And two She might stay Have that job For some good Fucking benefits She might not Necessarily want to Retire What she does there Is very important In this conversation It's important bro This is the main hope Parents be hard I'm not moving From this crib I'm not leaving My dad We don't know I'm not leaving This thing And there's the other Part that we Overlooking Who say she got All this money That's right Well she has $2500 She has $22500 I'm sure she got $2,500. She has to pull one off for $2,500. But just there, that's the thing. It's never a one off. The $2,500, that expires in the summer. In the summer, she forgets that it happened and now I need something else. Maybe with a $2,500 before, we don't know. But if she didn't, do you feel like she should? No. If she didn't, what she had to do is use the same lie that I've been telling everybody. Yes, you in my will. Oh, that's good. Yo, you think, I look niggas dead. You think I ain't say, can you? When I'm gone I'm using that I don't care about your will I need money today Will you pay me now? No I will not So it doesn't matter how your sibling is I get it Good point Does it matter how your sibling is If your sibling comes willing title You still give it to them? No I would want to less I probably Yeah It would affect how I think about it But I'm saying at the core I feel like I owe him something To my parents I definitely do Again If you got good parents If your parents molested you Or beat you Or put you out Or You know what I mean I get it's different But if you have regular Parent kid relationship Yeah I think your parents If you can afford for your parents Not to work You should retire If the sibling is going to leave Streaks on my windshield After they clean it Then don't bother Don't bother Then just take They ain't got the good squeegee Yeah If you don't have that Old shit Yeah Old shit That don't even really Cause it's the hands The wrist moves Yeah yeah yeah If you can't get that Then I'll just give you the money You ain't got it Go ahead And I have a question For all of y'all What's up big Mona Because I have siblings But they weren't raising My dad had kids later Right Okay If Mom should be retired Right Is that Should mom be the one That's up Or do the siblings Get together and say Yo why you ain't retire mommy You know what I mean Like can she come out And complain that mom Didn't get retired I feel like retired The parents are more expensive Than people are For sure I'm just saying It is that cool As a sibling To represent mom In that way And speak to them Like yo You know mommy Ain't gonna say it But that's fucked up You ain't retired mommy Is that like your job As a sibling I think The biggest piece is Because somebody See you on TV They automatically Just be like Oh you rich And that's us Thanks They think that about us Like yo dog No not with the Boosters talk right Who think y'all rich That it may be In the vacuum From boosters Like somebody could look at your lifestyle And see that y'all are not rich Y'all niggas get Rolexes from Boosters Did you get yours from a booster? I did not Did you get yours from a booster? I don't have one Okay I don't think nobody in your life Is looking at y'all like y'all super up though I would buy a Rolex from a booster That seems risky I would have to get it like crazy You got it around You motherfuckers You're crazy You're crazy You're crazy You're crazy It'd be tough to keep us crazy I'm great though You are great This place is fun It's crazy No but answer the question y'all Is that normal for one of your siblings to speak for mom? Yes. I think it depends on the relationship. A thousand percent. But the loser sibling can't because you don't really know how mom feels. That's not true. Not the loser sibling. Damn. They might be on my own. They the ones the closest. But mom ain't complaining to them. But mom's not complaining to them. Mom's not telling them the truth. They can't help. Listen to this. Mom's telling them we can be all right. Mom's telling the good sibling the truth. Let's just say hypothetically you had a sister or brother that lived at home with mom that was the loser, right? And they see your mother busting her ass. They see your mother getting on the bus. They see your mother back hurting and really struggling out here to make ends meet. And you might be up 20, 30, 40 ends. That's what the loser sibling do. Walk mommy to the bus stop. Yeah. We'll get some of them bags. Yeah. That's what the – you got it. I'll get you to the sibling. Drop her off the floor. You're right, big dog. You right big dog Are you fucking shitting me? I know the mom is mortified though I feel bad for mom That sucks Like the how you Or she like Yeah like you fucking this up I was just about to finally Get some bread from Glow And now you did this Cause Glow's responding Like Glow made her picture Cause the The daughter Cause Luzer sibling Must have Got a job at FedEx With mommy So Glow really used Her sister's picture With the FedEx outfit And then put it on her Facebook And it captures Indeed.com You do a lot of Facebook Yo If you confused out there About if you may or may not be the loser sibling if your mother got you the job thanks it's true like you're an idiot hey you got a boy hey if wherever you were mom put in a few calls it's you mom was worried about you for like mom ain't want to go to a grade worried about one kid one kid doing good there's another one now come on call Verizon come on come on come on come on He just gone through some tough times right now. That's crazy. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. He's still there. Oh, my God. Shout out to Glow River Sister, man. If I'm Glow River, I'm never speaking to Shorty again. Yeah. I'm still speaking to Shorty again. I'm going out. Shit. I'm making it worse. You know what else about the loser sibling? He pulled a pistol on her back in the day, bro. We're not going to move on from this because I'm too triggered. But the loser sibling don't even know that the sibling with a record deal probably is paying the mortgage or the rent, Thanksgiving, gross. It's so much that the loser sibling don't even know what's happening because you're a loser. The loser sibling went to borrow money from moms. And mom ain't had it. Mom go get it from Glo. No, mom didn't have it at the time. So now loser sibling got mad at Glo because mom ain't had the money. I'm not kidding. He's right. The loser sibling is going to mom to get money. Mom's coming to Glo to get money. So the loser sibling thinks he's getting it from mom. I know, but I'm just saying this. Now I'm mad at Glove. Now I'm mad at Glove because Mom don't have it this time. Right. Lastly, this is my very last thought on the loser sibling shit. I don't want to do this whole segment and just shit on loser siblings without giving them some advice. I'm part of the problem if I only talk about the problems and not the solution. Loser siblings. Very important how you time your makeup with your superstar sibling. I think this stud-faced lady timed this horribly. Glorilla is on Grammy nominations and probably 10 to 12 hit singles. And know when you should have been plotting this move? Hey, you live in Memphis, right? You got a radio? You got a Walkman? You got an iPod? Let me tell you when you should have planned it. I'm still R-E-E Whoa! I'm going right there for it. Yo, you need your sneakers cleaned? You need your laundry done? Yo, when you put your ear into the hallway and heard your fucking sister in the other room doing this... Fuck nigga, freak for me. No, let me tell you how it sounded too. No. S-I-N-G-L-E-A-G Y'all are hanging out the window in my way. Word! I found it good for you. I You should have been playing when you're always shaking off We're talking Shout out to you fucking loser siblings out there, man While I'm on the topic of losers, I went home the other day and saw that Corey Holcomb still had my name in his mouth. I'm really so confused about that with all the controversy he's been caught up in lately. Corey Holcomb, you don't fight well enough to do this with me. Like we had video with you. You're not smart enough, strong enough, big enough, fast enough to do none of this you're talking about with me. We saw you with the homie Anton. He asked you to walk outside and you remain stationary, Corey Holcomb. Please keep my name out of your mouth and don't take anything I'm saying as like a threat to you. I wouldn't plan on doing nothing when I see you. Actually, if I saw you and we were breathing the same airspace, I would take it as a threat to me, a threat from God, a threat from life that we've been in the same fucking circumference, nigga. Corey Holcomb, your fall from disgrace has been one that should be studied from kind of funny to kind of bummy to I'm just the dummy. You over there struggling. You look a sandwich away from welfare. You dusty dog shit in the face looking motherfucker boy. Corey Holcomb, I can't believe that you are engaged in this way when you fight that way. Honestly, it's over. You over there just lonely and poor. Your co-host look bad Not the woman I'm not talking about her Everything over there look bad I know you down bad Because you on a Costco table Podding in front of a fake plant That appears to be dying You failed at fatherhood You hate yourself You hate your daughter Your daughter hates you You failed at fatherhood Finances You failed at funny Your pod sucks You failed at fodder You just a failure All around the board And don't forget the original point You don't fight well enough To do none of this with nobody. So, prayers up to Corey Holcomb. We're not going to go back and forth in exchange because I just don't feel the need to do that with you. I was just shocked to see that you still had a voice over there. Damn. Should have done that over there. He had to be. No, man, please. For Corey. Please. Corey over there, no shape up, a dusty derby. Corey looked like he is. He looked like Grandless Puba. Grandless Puba. Corey over there looking like the store runner for a black biker gang. Corey looked like he covered in just warts and scabs. Corey looked ashy yet damp. There's no reason why. He shouldn't have the time for a back and forth with nobody right this second. It looked bad. It looks bad. It looks bad over there. And that's before he started losing all these gigs because of that video that came out. So praise up to you, my brother. You're going to need it What else we got going on I don't even know the transition Word at all Who else I need to talk to There's a few niggas I've been needing to talk to I've just been letting it linger for a little bit Do another one Who I have a list I have a list But on my list Because I'm so good hearted I try not to really talk about people That I know for a fact hate themselves because there's nothing that I can say or do. The job is done already. So I normally wouldn't talk to Corey Holcomb. I don't talk to Jason Lee because I know that's how he heals. He heals from engagement and being in close proximity to celebrities. And I'm a celebrity, so there's no point in wasting time to do that. I can't make niggas hate themselves more than they already do. Jason Lee has watched his brother die in his arms. His dad hates him because he sucked dick, and he's watched countless men go in and out of his mom's room as he was selling pussy to support him. There's nothing that Joe Budden can say to make Jason Lee hate himself any more than he already does. But prayers up to you, another one. I'm praying for all you niggas. I just had to get that out of the way. Sorry, but I mean, just a little light, little pow-pow, let niggas know I did indeed hear what they had to say. And it's important because when you're going back and forth with gay niggas, really like, like, what do I look like? I can't go back and forth with a gay nigga as an ally and advocate for that community. Offense some other people trying to diss one person. That's not in my heart. And I don't really speak like this because I believe in the power of words and karmic retribution. But sometimes some of these niggas deserve it, man. So that's going to be the end of that. And if it's not, then we'll get into that other tea out there about you being an old Niners fan. You like Steve Young, boy. That's right. That's right. old Niners, man. I ain't talking football. What you think? That's so you don't come my way about the pay for play with the young boys out there? You know Steve Young. Y'all know Steve Young, one of the greatest Niners quarterbacks of all time, right? I don't watch football. Ah, got it, got it. Me either. He was the quarterback right after Joe Montana, man. So, you know what I mean? All is well out there, but peace and love. Peace and love. You can't end that with peace and love. Peace and love to everybody. Because I be chilling, man. But niggas, I think niggas think because, I mean, I be chilling that shit. And you inspire me with the Brom Ignite shit. So sometimes I got to come in and let niggas know I'm standing on business. I heard that shit you said. We're not going back and forth. It's not going to be exchanged. But here's what I think about a few things. That's all. Well, all right. Here at the Joe Button Podcast, we like to keep it positive. We like to keep it full of love and light. All about high vibrations, high frequency, love and light, building and linking. Come on, man. Stop playing Stop playing You built a Lincoln Shut up bitch Well that was You want to do another one? No No I got another one I got another one Nah We don't need another one I'm just playing What? That one Why? Why? Yeah Congratulations on the Shared and Shared interview Hey Hey You're not a save to watch Yeah man I was watching that You're looking at how mature I was I can't wait to get to work going to be immature. Yeah. That was a good interview. I don't usually watch too much YouTube stuff for like the whole two and a half hours or three hours or whatever the interviews I watched the whole thing. It was really, it was a really good interview. Thank you, man. Thank you. Shout out to Shane. I had a good time. I had a good time doing it. It was a blast. I watched it. They did the live premiere thing. I watched it. It was good. He asked you a couple questions where I was curious to know which direction you would go. Whether you go, you know, high or low, whether you go, whether you play in or not. And you kept it matured the whole time. Oh, he was on this media bag. Yes. He was on the media bag. I told y'all I'd be being mature when I'm away from here. Yes, you did. You made up for it today, though. Yeah, you're good. You even that shit out. You're good. Quick. You'll be good. On this phone? Yes. Three minutes ago. Maybe not even three. All right, well, come on. Let's talk about something fun. Maybe later on, I'll get back to my list. Do y'all have a list? No. No. Absolutely not. Nope. Yes. Do you have a list of people that no matter what they say, you don't trust it? Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, mad people. Yes. Yeah. For sure. A couple of family members on that goddamn list. But we talking about celebrities and shit, too. Celebrities, the easy one is obviously that. The politicians, the easy one. Anything Donald Trump say, I don't care about. Sure. Any politician. I don't believe it. The last year, I've become increasingly less trusting of Dame Dash. If Dame Dash say I'm skeptical. And I love Dame Dash. But after he became the CEO of Revolt, I started being like, all right, maybe you're not a trustworthy name anymore. Well, and he's not. Right. CEO of Revolt. Yes. Wait, so I'm going to send him money, invest him money for nothing? I don't know. I'm just clarifying that he's not that. Don't answer on this. I was about to say, you got a Revolt meeting? No. You had a Revolt meeting? No. Ask him one more You almost there Yeah yeah You just think I be having meetings With all types of motherfuckers I don't You just said you had a Groundbreaking Earth shattering Orgasmic meeting Yesterday Orgasmic I know so if I start saying them words Don't think revolt You might be the new CEO of revolt Groundbreaking Life changing Earth shattering I'm not gonna go to revolt Here's a little nugget for you I might be the new CEO of revolt There you go But if I start using words like orgasmic not referring to not the title I'm referring to even though I am excited about 2026 that's why I feel J. Cole yo I'm so excited about all these positive things and literally there's absolutely nobody to talk to about it this is such a lonely disgusting feeling must be tough fuck you I feel for you so yeah so you gave your list who else Anybody else got a list? Who you hear? And be like, yeah, no. I got a few. And some of them, sorry. Last time I said his name, he caught Joe. Gang. Gang is on that list. Ross is on that list. LeBron is on that list. Fat Joe is on that list. No disrespect. Sorry. Callie, too. Kiki Palmer. Kiki Palmer is on that list. I know y'all be trying to shit. She was a young girl. Kiki Palmer is on that list. Blue Face is on that list. Chris Sean is on that list. Who else? I don't even listen. Kevin Gates. Another one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's on that list. I listen to him sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Brittany Renner and her new man. They both on the list. I don't even know, boy. He ain't going to do nothing. How you going to put him on the list? Sorry. Carisha. He married Brittany. Carisha's on the list. I don't believe a word Carisha has to say. Sweetie, love you, baby. You're beautiful. Sorry. I don't believe a word. She don't really say too many words But even in the songs I don't believe her Sweetie Don't believe it Sorry Who else Bruno See it's not really a list for me I don't believe most people I don't believe most people Yeah that's the problem Especially in entertainment Especially in entertainment Why you not going to believe Bruno Because he owes some niggas some spanky Huh Mr. Beast Oh yeah Sorry None of the streamers really Joe don't fuck with Mr. Beast Mr. Beast, I don't believe a word or a facial expression. He did a lot. He did a lot. Just don't nobody know yet. Mr. Beast did a lot. How old is Mr. Beast? Who else I don't believe? Orlando Brown. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't believe him at all. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. How about Soulja Boy? Or niggas from Orlando, too. He be right a lot, though. Niggas from Orlando. A dude from Orlando is sketchy. You want women and older people to be from Orlando, but a dude from Orlando that's like in our age range, if he's from there, I don't believe what we're doing. That's fair. Shout out to Orlando. His region is like that. Niggas in Vegas, I don't land in Vegas and be like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. Not at all. The niggas, when you land internationally in some of them spots Where as soon as you land They got every drink Available to be made Nah Nope Sorry Ain't trusting y'all A lot of international shit Who else You Who You pyramid scheme niggas Whoever was involved Spectacular from Pretty Ricky Not a single word That he has to say Not one word That's spectacular He could be a great guy Sorry I don't believe it Raz from B2K Sorry Sorry Nah I believe He don't really talk He just be with his baby Bow Wow Sorry Another one I'm not That's another one on my list That's a good one That's a lot of these niggas I don't believe anybody No but some of these niggas The list is more of like Who do you believe in Just write it down anyway You write it down but hey Y'all know I don't believe her I don't believe Absolutely I don't believe her Her publicist Her stylist I don't believe nobody that worked for us. You couldn't help it. No, but write it down so they don't know. Let's see. Stephon Diggs. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Who else? Who else? James Harden. Anything he got to say is a lie. Yeah, I left the Clippers because I wanted to help them rebuild and get draft picks. I know, buddy. You're a liar. I'm done. I'm done with you. I think we would be surprised to learn. I think we would be shocked to learn How many lies come across our radar daily A lot That's real What percent you think is lies The whole news Half 80% of the news I'm way higher than half I'm 85 You might be right Niggas be getting lies off Niggas be getting lies off Who up here gets the most lies off Hopefully me Joe Hopefully me On air Because it makes for Great pod entertainment The consensus answer Would probably be me You agree In real life Not so much Not so much In real life It's probably a different answer Who's James in real life? Somebody on that couch Who? Who? There ain't so many people on the couch. I know. I want to know what the fuck you're talking about. Pick one. You pick one. It's your choice. I don't think there's a wrong answer. Anybody that's seated on that couch, I can put all my poker chips in the middle of the table. That's crazy. They could be lying. Listen I made a mistake and was on my baby Instagram the other day Peeking through That silly She posted a text exchange that her son the football star sent her And it warmed my heart but it didn It was a text exchange that said, Mom, you playing games? He was asking to cook some food. And she was like, yeah, I'll get to it. He was like, yo, you playing around. In 10 years, I'm going to retire you. You be grateful and watch how you speak to me. And that warmed my heart because every young kid has that dream of retiring their mother. I had that same dream. I remember one month. You get some money. You want to buy your parents a house. You want to retire your mom. But what? Keep going. You better not. So I hit DM. You did him? Her. Okay. Because he might think she got a job. I knew it. I knew it. That's where he was going. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. Hey. Quick question. Hey. Retirement. From. What the. My animation. Yo. What do he think you do, baby? I knew it. That's bad. Yes, yeah. What's he saying? Oh, shit. That's my baby. My baby. This is terrible, son. Oh, my God. Oh, he's going to retire me. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Oh, shit. What y'all want to talk about? I'm all a rusty, man. He has two fucking hand grenades. Word. I'm going to run ours. Get out of here, man. Wait, that's bad. Oh, I love you, baby. That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. That was funny. That was funny. That was funny. I mean, what do we do? She don't. Any post office. Like, you look at Mona. Like, anyway. LaRussell. LaRussell. LaRussell, if you're unfamiliar with LaRussell, LaRussell is, or he was the independent act. King Indy. Huh? King Indy. Yeah. King Indy out there in L.A. really good guy, good spirited, was championing independence and kind of taking his fans and audience along the journey of what it looks like to truly be independent. He was giving out jewels. He was giving out knowledge. And he was being very transparent about some of the deals that were coming across the table. He was like, yo, this is why I wouldn't accept this deal as an independent. Why would I? Yada, yada, yada, yada. He even did that for Roc Nation. He got a clip out there that said Roc Nation sent me a contract. It said X, Y, Z. I would never do such a thing. Recently, he's been selling his project for a thousand dollars and up. Kyrie Irving purchased one for eleven thousand. Somebody else purchased one for however many thousand. And he was running a campaign that said, hey, y'all, I'm trying to sell one hundred thousand copies independently of my new project in 30 days. I thought that was the flyest shit ever. He turns right around in this same campaign and announces that he is signed to Roc Nation, which was met with mixed reviews because of because of what he has stood on for so long. So I'm asking you guys how y'all feel about it. Is it Roc Nation distribution? Yeah, I'm going to say, does that mean he's not now? Oh, OK. Not now. Remember, Roc Nation is everything now. Oh, true. OK. So just to clarify a question. So by signing on Roc Nation, you are by definition no longer independent. I don't want to get into the murky water of what is independent versus what is not. And I think there's a world where he could be partnered with Roc Nation and still be independent. Let me just make a note. I think what some of the fans are saying is the optic of it, And even if this deal is whatever you say, it looks and feels like it's undermining the road that we've been on with you and everything that you stood for. Even if you're still independent now, now it's tougher to believe. It's tougher to believe you when you say, I'm trying to sell 100,000 copies of my album in 30 days. Because there's been, for over 10 years now, there's been labels that have done the inorganic thing by trying to make it look organic. so it's just tougher to believe now and honestly I mean if you're asking me my opinion which no one has why'd you do that why'd you do that why did you do that as a fan why mute up why I'm not saying there's not an answer to that I'm saying when people ask the why it will appear that you have had it looks to me i'll just talk to me as a casual fan it looks like you have had so much success independently as a brand new act out there grinding and preaching a good word you've done this and i can't name one of your songs true that's part of why i that's part of the not why that's see and that's and that's and that's It's two people looking at the same thing, pulling different opinions. I totally get the mindset of, hey, I would like some help. I'm tired of spending out of pocket. I'm tired of being alone. I would like some of my songs to be heard. And I get all of that. But if you've had so much success without a hit song, why would you do it now? What is so much success? Your idea of what so much success is and maybe what he wants, success for himself, could be two totally different things. He could have literally I've seen people do this Where I've gotten as far as I can on my own To what they believe I hit the ceiling And now to get to that next level I need some shit that I can't get I can speak Hold on let me fuck him for a little bit Then you can ask me Can I go first Okay I agree with what he's saying But if you stood on a platform of Fuck the label Fuck the label Fuck the label And you telling all these little niggas under you Fuck that label Fuck that label fuck that label then for you to now go jump ship and go sign with the same label that you dissed not too long enough he said yo Roc Nation is some bullshit they offered me a predatory deal I won't ever fuck with them so now for you to go sign the Roc Nation you basically I'm going against everything you stood for you betraying the little niggas that could have potentially signed a deal and you fought for them not to sign a deal now two things with that maybe they could have given you a predatory deal initially and now they didn't because now he said or I could have grinded so hard independently that I've gained a little bit more leverage to now have a different conversation with them. Because he did. Well, hold on, hold on. Let me just, he did come out to say, in this deal, he owns all his masters, he owns all his publishing. Okay. So, in that sense, this is where, to answer your question, Mark, that what is independent versus what isn't independent, a lot of people stand on the side of, if I own everything, if I own my masters, I own my publishing, I own all my shit, I'm independent. Now, other people feel like, yeah, but you're not independent Yeah, you actually were able to sign to a machine. I get that. That's always murky because there are ways to incentivize a business partnership while retaining ownership. Like, there's plenty of ways for that to happen. So I get that argument. What I'm saying is this. Nobody can feel like they've taken it as far as they could take it if we don't know a song. That'll never be true. but I'm not getting no younger I've been doing this for how many years and my plan isn't you cannot surmise that you've taken it as far as you can take it if we don't know a song that will always be true and for Roc Nation or any company for that matter to come back to you knowing that fact well what do they see Oh, yeah. What do they see and why do they see it so early? Because I think this is early. If he were to do this in three to five years, I think the tone is different. How long has he been active? I'm not familiar with his start. I don't know. He's been around a few years. Yeah, it's been a little bit. He's been around a few years. But no matter how long you've been around, if you are a musician, independent or not independent, you know what the name of the game is, get a song that somebody knows. 2018 was his first, at least on Apple Music. Oh, that's early. This is early. 29 years. Can I add something? Also, to your success point, right? Like, we can't speak to what that is because I don't know what his definition of success is versus mine. It's his to tell. As an independent, when you get to the point where you are selling your music, when Nipsey sold his shit for $100 and everybody said he was crazy, somebody else did it too. But when you get to the point where you're able to sell your music for a thousand dollars and celebrities are not only pulling up to purchase it, but they're posting about it and getting an active campaign for you going. I mean, that wouldn't be the time that I would be signing anywhere, anywhere. But, you know, it's funny where you mentioned Nip and he did it after doing the proud to pay campaign with Crenshaw for the hundred dollar tape, doubling back with mailbox money for the thousand dollar tape. Guess what he goes and does You guessed it Signs a licensing deal With Atlantic For Victory Lap And that got that album Now people Who didn't know Nip Didn't know a song of Nips His core fan base We knew I copped the $100 joint But now Once you put your Debut album out You get a different Level of recognition And he still kept And owned everything Well this is why For me that's a false parallel And it's the reason Why I say In three to five years If LaRussell did that Then I don't have anything To say Speaking only for myself, I knew plenty of Nipsey Russell songs by the time he did that deal. Plenty of them. You just said this early because you don't know any of the Russell music yet. Which means he didn't get as far as he could have possibly. That's all I'm saying. You can't tell him how to feel. The fact that you still don't know about shit, I want somebody to help me. This is really different. It's like a marketing deal. This is no different to me than hiring a marketing company as an independent. If he's still retaining ownership of his masters in his publishing, this is no different than hiring a marketing company. What's the difference between what you would do as an independent I can also speak as someone who has released music independently. That shit gets exhausting having to do all that label shit. He might want to just fucking rap. Fam, he might have just saw what Roc Nation did with the clips. Or that. As a completely, as independent, took our album to you for, licensed it to y'all for just distribution, and y'all got me everywhere in the fucking world. That would be a fair. I'm just, because they had some other cachet involved as well, but I'm just saying, If I'm watching this company and the rollout that they had and the movement that they had as, hey, I just licensed the music to y'all. They still own all that shit. Okay, well, maybe let me try it this way because the way that I've been trying it got me here. I might want to try something different. Also, I push back with if you just want to rap, then you don't want to be independent. independent means you have a say in all facets of this and you are responsible for it all it's not i just want to rap if you just want to rap then then i don't have nothing to say to you but if you're independent rapping is probably the it's not the first second or third thing that you need to be paying attention to so i mean it just gets tricky clearly i think he did what he wanted to do so i'm happy fam yeah and he still got ownership so oh my god it's park's fault yeah i'm not trying to talk like uh clearly he did what he wanted to do so i'm not looking down on that but if it were me and i do understand some of the some of the criticism that comes along with what's going on what's up um what i was gonna say was i don't get why like Like, just because he shared with everybody, like, how nasty the deals that he was being offered and shit, why did that give anybody an idea that he wouldn't sign or that wasn't a goal? I feel like the whole time, he always took meetings and he talked about it, but he shared things. Just like I can remember him going to go do a freestyle, whether it was flex or off the radar, and they were late and they were treating him funny, he left. And he told everybody, like, nobody treats me like shit because they got this big thing. You know what I mean? I feel like y'all confusing the fact that he shared it. Even Dog and Roc Nation out with, he would never, this never was the goal. I think he was always trying to sell himself to get the best kind of deal. He owns shit. That's a pretty good situation. So that's where I think. The rest of my nigga, the rest of my podcast, I fucked with him a couple times. Went to LA, fucked with him. I was like, I don't think that that was ever not really the mission. I think he would have did it either way, but I think it was always like, you know what I mean? To get a good deal was always the goal. Some people feel like listening to him, it seemed like he championed and understood the upside in remaining independent for a little longer than what has been displayed. And I totally understand that and agree with it. I can see him alienating some of his fan base. They were there for the journey. The journey was... Niggas be robbing themselves of the journey because it's tough. the journey as an onlooker is the fun part to watch it's fun to watch you go from the basement to the studio with wizz khalifa to getting your first car to having your first show it's like having a kid and waiting for the first words and the first steps so you can't just expedite that and now we in pre-k i mean you're gonna lose people that's there for the story well i got to the point where again man i don't want to he don't have the songs to say that he don't have the songs to say that but whatever i got the deal that they offered me ain't this deal so something changed y'all offered me a bad deal a predatory deal i came online and talked about it and say yo they trying to wrap they trying to me over here with this deal blah blah blah blah blah i would never do this something happened between that that's obvious and this i just so where now I have what's to me A favorable deal Yeah Where I own my shit Y'all don't own nothing Y'all don't got nothing Y'all are just Distributing so we're good I give you a prime example And a lot of our Off air talk Didn't make it Because we was having fun Off air On the last five LaRussell Jay Z Getting LaRussell To perform In the parking lot Of the Super Bowl Is a story that You champion To the heavens When he's independent True Yeah A thousand percent And That same story don't look so much the same, not independent, right? That's true. Answer me. No, it don't look the same. Not at all. It doesn't look the same. And if you're close to the same. But actually, you shit on that very same move if you are signed to Roc Nation and now you buy the Subret stand by D34 in the parking lot section. Well, it's not going to be that. I get what you're saying. I get the joke aspect of it. But at the same token, if I'm LaRussell, I don't even get to be a part of none of this shit if I wasn't here. Now, we don't know what the – the Super Bowl is an all-day event for – it's some early – it's some pregame shit, some early shit. It's postgame. The Super Bowl is all weekend. No, I'm not missing your point. I'm looking at it from his point of view because if it makes sense to him, I might not have been able to do this without getting all this. I understand that. I understand that. That's him. That's what he's trying to do. I'm saying that if he were independent and found a Target parking lot to perform in, the story is going to be greater than this. My point is different than this. Yo, you've been for years, and I'm not insulting the gentleman. You've been for years. Yeah, we fuck with him up here. I'm sure who he is and what he's doing. Preaching a message of independence. And everything that you keep saying is, yo, he couldn't do this. Or he felt like he couldn't do this. And that's the same thing with the niggas that signed to the label from the rip. They feel like they can't do their own marketing, which might be exhausting to your point. They feel like they might can't get my songs played around the world because I can't go around and pitch my shit to all of the program directors nationwide. But that's a part of the struggle of being independent. So when you tell these little kids, yo, you don't need that, you don't need that, you don't need that, you basically contradicting yourself by saying now I'm going to tap out because it was too difficult. As a fan, I think if you got a different explanation, he owes it to us. Like even starting to say like, I own my own matches. Like as a fan who went along for that ride, I need you to tell me why you made that choice. If I've been riding with you and now it feels like a contradiction. And like I said, to me, that sound because I own all my shit still. Technically, I'm independent. He needs to say more. I just did some quick math. That brother's got 40 fucking albums on this Apple albums list. Yeah. After 40 albums, man, I'm out of here, bro. I made 40 albums. You don't know those songs. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. That didn't help things. That didn't help things for me either. That didn't help things for me either. If I made 40 albums independently without y'all, y'all could suck my dick now. I ain't going to hold you. Okay. That almost made it worse for me. At the end of the day, he got to go. I'm like, if I got 40, y'all don't know me. I'm going to be smelt. No, I got smelt. Something I'm doing ain't working. Yeah, right. That's not true, bro. I guess it depends on what level. It is true. And you should be able to troubleshoot Or you should If you're championing the independents You should want to troubleshoot that Before you get to I've been troubleshooting 40 albums Stop it yo And I'm at the same spot That's his fault He's not at the same spot though These niggas from California Be clear They might not have one song playing on the east coast These niggas could tour California all year long And make 5 million dollars So don't say he had the spot of a starving young artist that might only be doing 20 30 grand that nigga LaRussell And them it's a few artists from LA them. I mean from Cali period not just LA They're making mad fucking money, bro That we've never heard of it. They're not in the rotation on power 105 and hot 97 That's a fact that I mean a day didn't make it or they did they not doing shitty thing The Russell don't make drug dealer music Fuck bitches fuck holes. He don't make us a lot of positive shit. That shit is not always the big hit songs I'm using anyway. It's like that kind of niche thing. It's like positive Russell That's the first thing for a big hit from him. We looking for currency We look at what I want to be looking for car. I'm saying we don't know what he might want to be here We don't know what he Let him have I'm done with you But I'm just saying like he may want some different one thing I would like to would like to know is is who was managing you for 40 albums? Like, we just up here talking sounding stupid now. If you're independent and you did 40 albums and this is where you landed, by all means, cool. But that would tell me, all right, changes I can make. There's changes I can make, 40 albums and the world don't know nothing yet. Stop it, yo. Stop it. We just changed what you call Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. We just called Roc Nation. But, but, but, but, but clearly he wanted to do that and I'm sure Hov and Roc Nation, Again, Roc Nation is an all-in-one hub now. So it's management. It's distribution. It's the label. It's the streaming. It's the live streaming. It's the touring. It's the all-in-one. So maybe you want to help with all. I'm not judging him. He's happy. I'm happy. And I think podcasters, we get too caught up in would I have done it, would I not have done it. Everybody got to live their life the way that they see fit. From this couch, I would have done that. But what do I know? What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? I'm having a good time. Y'all want me to go back to my list? No. No. No. No. No. Y'all got a list? No. No. We don't need your list. All right. So what else we need? What else we need? What else is important? Everybody can rest easy tonight. I know y'all worried they found Aaron Hall. They did. They did. I didn't know he was lost. The young lady was trying to serve Aaron Hall for over a year. Oh. And nobody knew where Aaron Hall was. He fell off to earth. He literally disappeared. They could not find him at all. Like, had multiple addresses on the East Coast, West Coast, nothing. They found him in a little motel in Atlanta. Alpharetta. A motel? A motel in Alpharetta, Georgia. That's where you were. Not Atlanta, yes. Yeah. He was in the sticks. He was out there. With a white beard and a jewelry. Civil suits for, like, sexual misconduct, sexual assault, I think, specifically. Yeah, so he was under the radar. So, and they finally served him. Slipped him papers right into the door. He opened the door and slammed it in the face. Yeah, he opened the door. I'm here to start papers for Aaron Hall. What's that? They threw it in there and slammed the door. Well, I'm super glad that somebody found Aaron Hall. If it was somebody I know that was not looking for Aaron Hall, you guessed it. It was Teddy Riley. Teddy Riley. I've been watching a couple interviews. Teddy Riley is supposed to come up here soon. But I've been watching some interviews that he's been doing. And Sway asked him straight up, like, listen, man, I see guys going back on tour. Teddy Riley said no guy's dead the niggas don't fuck with me and I don't fuck with them it's just new guys some niggas guys guys guys my guys my guys it's me and two of my guys my guys going on tour that's how you know you're ill boy when you can just pick up two niggas and keep up the same oh he's going out as guys hold on let's Teddy Riley is going out with two new people as guys as guys And that's how you just know Teddy Riley is the man. I thought you meant Aaron. Park me up with me. I'm not even trying to get this shit off, man. Yes, that's a fuck-up part. We used to pick up two niggas that don't nobody know and still keep the same level and rate of success that you had previously. You know that person is the man. Come on, y'all. You know Teddy Riley. Come on, right? Yeah, that's a fact. Oh, you asshole. I don't like that you be getting my jokes too early. Let my shit bake a little bit first. I know you, Slot. I know you're an asshole. Anyway, shout out to you. Sorry, Parker. And the guys. And the guys. And the guys. Guys. That's hilarious. Guys. And our guys. What else is important to y'all? What else are y'all passionate about? I think we kicking ass this far. Come on, February, we're not playing. No, we ain't playing. February, we ain't playing no games, man. Stop playing with us. What else do y'all feel passionate about or needs our attention? It's a little sad. Okay. But since we talk about missing people, I do want to mention Savannah Guthrie's mother-in-law. Nancy. Nancy. She was missing. She's still missing. But there's now a ransom note. And they're trying to figure out how to navigate that. And when we say ransom note, because you're hearing this today, we mean yesterday there was a ransom note that said, if you do not get us however many million in Bitcoin by 5 p.m., something will be done. 1.47 a.m. Sunday The doorbell camera was disconnected At 2.12 a.m. A camera detects motion But no video is recorded At 2.28 a.m. Pacemaker stopped syncing with cell phone I would be terrified at that point Oh, yeah And at Damn, I can't see this last time I want to say that's 12.03 or 23 p.m. Reported missing after not showing up at church. So that has been the string of events. This is disturbing. Yeah, it is. It's terrifying, man. They're talking about the word on the curb. Police are saying there are no suspects. The Internet is saying there's one suspect. I won't say because it's irresponsible without any proof or anything. But they're saying there's the brother-in-law. That's what the Internet is saying. Allegedly. There's no facts supporting this. Again, police are saying there are no suspects. But on the news, they're like, dog, if there's a kidnapping, it's probably a family member. How do y'all feel about that? Probably so. Somebody that's close to somebody that got some personal information. Yeah. Because if you're a kid, if you're like an international kidnapper, you're not targeted to Savannah Guthrie's mother-in-law. That wouldn't be like where you'd go. It's personal. Yeah. And then asking for Bitcoin. Right. Seems smart. Smart. That's definitely the thing you would ask for when you kidnap people. I don't get that What y'all saying Tell me Because the digital currency Is really really hard to track And you can move it around Digitally I suppose Yeah cash is tougher Okay I understand that Yeah That makes sense Yeah That makes sense It's encrypted It's literally the point So that part makes sense I don't understand I'm with Mark Why would you target this Person Fairly Yeah this person God forbid If any of you guys Were in this situation Let me take it off y'all And just speak for me If it were me This bitcoin would have been out of my account 20 minutes after, 10 minutes after I got this message. Are y'all the type to immediately pay like me, or would you be trying to let the police do something first? Specifically for our mother-in-laws? Who matters? Who is very important? It's her mother. It's not her mother-in-law. Oh, I thought it was her mother-in-law. It's her mother. They suspect it's her mother-in-law. Got it. Gotcha. Okay. The police don't. The internet don't. mother-in-law. Yeah, I thought it was the mother-in-law. No, her mother, Nancy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. See, there's no amount that I wouldn't pay immediately, but you wouldn't just send the money ASAP. That's not true. Because you have no guarantees at that point. Like, if I just send the money, that don't mean I'm going to get my mom back. That don't mean that. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's still got to be something like. Coordinating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I would still be sending it to see. I would have the police or whoever is behind me. I'd be on it. Alert. But I'm sending that To see what happens For your mother? For moms? They got the house The kids The dog Everything I'm just saying It's still not going to be An immediate thing Because there's still No guarantees Once you send the money That day Well I'll be by the phone In case a text comes You know what I'm saying? Give me proof of life Let me You know All of that You got it big dog It's a nightmare It's a nightmare bro Yeah it came to me It really is And just the fact That you read the timeline You know shit like the camera, all of that. Somebody got to know that house. The pacemaker. Somebody knows that house. Somebody cut off the pacemaker sink into the... That's not Joe Schmode a crook. That's not Joe Schmode a crook. I don't think so either. That's somebody that knows y'all. That's somebody that's been there. That's just high level shit. Yeah. Yo, this is a very serious matter. Prayers are going out to the Guthrie family, Savannah and Nancy. We definitely are praying that you are alive and well and all is good. You know what this plan reeks of you guessed it a loser sibling a loser sibling hey and even if it don't hey you know who we not rushing to contact when mom gets kidnapped the loser sibling the loser you can't help I'll hit you when mom get back in when mom is in the server we found her what do you say big mom what do you think the loser sibling is the one that goes missing How much bitcoin are you putting out? Well I'm not putting out anything But I'm going to have to go into retirement Well I'm putting out something I'll put out something if the rest of the family Tried to scrape it together and couldn't They were short a little bit? Yeah yeah yeah What if they ain't got nothing? They scrape Oh then they shouldn't have got lost Hey kidnappers Y'all got the wrong one And anyway If the loser sibling Get kidnapped Nigga You've been a loser Long enough in your life To figure out And escape They know how to get away Yeah Way to get out of there Nigga You should be resourceful As a loser Little league glue Yeah Put a rope Nigga Get the fuck up out of there Yo again This is all for jokes I don't want to trigger Any of the loser siblings That are listening out there Cause Your listening is important too I guess They don't know They're losing anyway Some of them Some of them do by them Some of them do by now You know the problem? See that's the thing about age Age Sometimes can act As A mirror At like You 56 No shoelace On the twin bed On the twin bed Pork and beans On the twin bed Yeah twin bed Ask your mom What's the dinner Mice is in there You know what I mean You got the poor mice trapped You ain't even got the good shit That's gonna catch a mouse You got the shit Where the mouse walking over Miles, the mouse ate that shit. That bitch, the mouse laughed at that shit. Yo, the mouse kicked that shit out of the moon, nigga. Got a mouth over there playing double dutch. Yeah. Yo, you left hand to that? Oh, nigga. Flip your little butt out of the car, nigga. Fuck your trap. I went to shop where I got the little broke mousetrap and put some cheese on the mouse, ate the cheese, stared at me, too. Joe, this ain't going to work. Joe, you're going to be more than me. And, nigga, get sharp next time. Fucking Monterey Jack, you bitch-ass nigga. Nobody want American, you rich. Sure enough. All right, let's see. We did LaRusso. We did Savannah. We did Glorilla. We did Alame. We did Tatum. We did Cole. What else needs our attention? Anything happening in you guys' life that y'all are passionate about that we need to share? Come on, give it to me. I'm a little frustrated. There we go. Let's go, Mark. Let's go, Mark. Y'all see I put Kevin James up. I'm sending this to you now, Park, so you can see it, man. Okay. You know, I like to organize and do some activism to support my people. I thought Kevin James used to play for the Kings That's Kevin Martin I thought Kevin James No, Kevin James Was and is I guess The president of Morris Brown College And he is a He's somebody who helped really build the university back up Or the college back up You know, after having had like 10 students at one point Literally, got his accreditation back Did all this stuff, then he got Randomly, it seemed, fired as president. And every black journalist, every black activist came out and said, we need to give this man his job back. This is wrong. The board should not have done what they did. They have no explanation. We're going to lawsuit. We're going to picket. We're going to rally to Georgia. Did they ever say what he got fired for? No, they said, his whole point was, I did nothing wrong and I've been fired without cause. Okay, go ahead. And some people say there's a reason, but we don't want to say. And they're like, that's wrong too. You can't just fire him without a reason. And so we fought and we got him his job back, man. I'll salute you to the black community. Let's go. And then a day after, or a week after, he got his job back, this clip comes out. You know, even though I didn't want to, you know, I got to look at the big picture. Like, okay, if I bring Jess to Atlanta to come on me and hire her, I thought the other day that I might even have you as my executive assistant, right? Uh-oh. Oh, no. You know, if I give you the D, then you might not be able to. Oh, he's working. That's on a Zoom call? Oh, shit. So, yeah, right. It's a FaceTime, I think. But there's multiple people on this show. I think the bottom is the people. That's like a clip from Smile Show. Oh, okay. But, yes, it was a FaceTime that he had with this woman who he was apparently recruiting as his something or other. Executive assistant. Yeah. He didn't even practice that line enough in the bathroom mirror. He sounded like he was rushing it out, like just trying to get it out. Right. He sounded like he was unsure about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm making sound cocky to me pause like yo dog. I'm used to doing this Me too. If I give you the dick, man, you ain't gonna hear me. You ain't gonna be the hand of this thing. See, he didn't sound like that Yeah, he didn't sound like that I like you. You sound like a vet when you say you say like Oh, yeah, you got the OG top of this. I'm just saying like he ain't sound like that. He was workshopping that shit. Nah, honestly Not to me. No. He sounded like a really good dick. He said it like the job ain't paying too much like it's gonna take some extra conviction So what happened after that? He sounded like he definitely lived in Atlanta, huh? So what's next? Oh my God, you're an idiot, bro. He has an accent. That's all I'm saying. That's all I meant. Okay. A little Southern twang. So does he lose the job again because he's freaky? I don't know. We're going to find out. But the internet is very upset. Everybody's like, nigga, we put Austin on the line for you. Yeah. And if this leaking, you know this other shit going on. Oh, for sure. It'll all be around me. Yeah, the first time he did that, did something. He was too comfortable on the phone. Yeah. Is he an older guy? No. He's probably like me and his age. Okay. That's your... So... Hold on. Wait, you... Hold on. You... Y'all dead ass. What's that? Y'all dead ass. He is the... What? The president of a university. The president of a university. No, no, I got that. Hey, my nigga, you'd be acting like you 36 for real, bro. Youth 45. Mark's 47. We would say vote. We would have been in high school together if you were winning. Not really. Yeah, because we're not really in the same boat. I'm mid-40s. What are you? What I'm telling you is, in an alternate universe, if we both were single and I had to hook up with two beautiful joints, when I told Shorty's friend about you, I would say, my older friend. And when I told Shorty about you, Antoine, I would say, yes, yes, he's older. They would ask. They would. They would. Because when I show up They're going to be like Hold up Who older? That's before What's wrong? He showed up I'm saying before you show up They would I know And I would have Because he'd be hating Yes he's older He's older I have an older friend Yeah I have an older friend Yeah What? Yo these niggas You ain't shit You think it's tight That they the older friend I'm not You are the older friend No I'm not tight though No he said Older gentleman And you like Wait wait Like you just 36 Like you a spring chicken nigga You're old Spring chicken You're back hurt when you get off that couch You are No no Nigga my daughter back Where her get off this couch It's just uncomfortable nigga You know what Let's match Let's match Real quick Because I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to deter This is such a great conversation We know how old Everyone here is Physically How old do you think I'm asking a question Go ahead How old do you think you brothers are just in spirit. Like, if some joints come around and want some shots of 1942, and y'all mean, with some good music playing at a fucking spoken word joint, for you, a brothel for you. It's not a part of it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Spoken bird. Spoken word. Spoken bird. How do y'all think y'all are in spirit? This ain't meant to take a long time I'm probably I'm mid-50s in spirit right now I admit it I'm washed See that's where I went at I'm way more immature than y'all That's not true It's not true that I'm more immature than walking Or scream? No it's like he's more immature than us Like really That's not true That is funny Then who? You've never seen me really outside So stop caping That's not true Can you go outside anymore? We should see you Yeah, don't just let Troy see you. I don't got no money for the strippers. So you can't see me outside. You know what I mean? And Troy didn't sound like he had a little beef with me, too. You be talking to Troy about me. Troy was aggressive when he was. He was like, what's up, what's up? I thought about it when I went home. You always sit to yourself. You're cool, bro. And if I got no fuck with you, bro. What I'm saying is, outside, niggas is silly, niggas is playful. You don't even talk to people outside. You walk through them. That's a fact. What are you talking about? I don't talk to people. Where's the playful Joe outside? Remember when we was all out at the old spot that closed down, and I was with my girl, and you were seated right next to me, and Rachel was there, and then you sent me the text like, yo, look at that bad bitch right there. And then my girl, I seen the text, and everyone the name. You're lying. You're lying, all right? You're lying, bro. You're lying. You're lying. Are you in time? I heard a story like three different ways in the last 14 months. Man, it's all true. You all get closer and closer together. It's all true. It's all true. I'm into the bar. It's cool. Y'all know what's funny, too? I got the speaker looking detective. You still see the bar. You know the speaker. Because I know his. I know his thing to me talking about my girl. I was like, that privacy is green. Oh, shit. Now, for real, what is important on this list that we need to get to? We did Glorilla. Oh, shit, we do have to say shout-out to Kid. Yes. Shout out to Kid from Kid and Play who recently went viral for disclosing some of his health conditions that he's been having. Let me try to find it. Christopher Kid Reed, half of the hip-hop duo Kid and Play, had life-saving heart surgery last year after being diagnosed with congestive heart failure. He says, and I quote, over the last year or so, maybe just starting feeling normal, feeling more fatigued than before. Shortness of breath. Sleeping more than normal. I think sometimes you chalk it up to, I'm getting older, the road is harsh, doing the old kick step. A lot of people are walking around with heart disease because they don't go to the doctor. And, you know, traditionally, people of color, we don't go. We don't go for a lot of reasons. Sometimes we don't go because we don't have insurance. A lot of times we don't go because we don't want the bad news. Or we're too busy just hustling, trying to make it from day to day, and we feel we don't have time. Or we'll get over it. Well, you might not. So I'm urging all of my fans, all of your loved ones, to get checked out, please. And that is from Christopher Reed, Kid from Kid and Play. Kid, if you're listening to this, if anybody out there is listening that knows, Kid, please let them know. I love you. Thank you. Thank you for your message. We appreciate it, and we needed that. Really important message. Some of the greats that we've lost have echoed the same things in some of their final days. We make a lot of AIDS jokes up here, but checking on your health is really, really, really important. So shout out to kids for just spreading that message Important Word Get checked out man Indeed It's alright We'll do it Yeah Shit costs though You got a moan along for us? You got a moan along? Oh Oh Hey You didn't want to hear nothing from me this whole time I was sitting Nah nah we want to hear it And I don't even know exactly what the fuck I'm on What finesse did? No we're not What's the quote? Yo What's this quote? It was turning to an obsession I'm awesome I'll text you about it I'll text you about it Oh man Really good show Really good show Indeed Yes sir Appreciate you brothers 900's off to an amazing start That's the other thing about J. Cole It was some point in the album Where he tried to make us scream out I'm a mulatto I'm a mulatto I'm a mulatto Seriously? What's wrong with that? I don't know I missed that one Yeah it was in there Where he started screaming I'm a mulatto I'm a mulatto I'm a mulatto I got a white bomb I'm a mulatto I do remember a bar I got a white bomb I don't remember No, there was a chance There was a chance There was a I'm a mulatto chance I'm a mulatto I'm on it Y'all don't even Understand the symbolism You know Cole was rapping From different perspectives He was logic Wait Y'all lucky I can't sing Y'all lucky I can't rap I wish I could rap, yo. Fuck, dude. If I could sing? What? Then what? What would happen if you could sing? What would you say? I've been Chris Brown before Chris Brown. He didn't say you could dance, too. Fuck, Joe. What? Send it, Joe. The baddies. Everything is just the Asian. I'm sorry, Joe. I'm sorry, Joe. I want to end it, but it's you to him. Yo, he's so delusional. You're not. No. And still ain't done a back flip The losing away Nigga man We can't get no type of flip from this nigga Listen man Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast As much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there. Until next time. We bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Cerebro. Dirty. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long. Goodbye. Or simple head novels. The fights. Remember life is a series of moments. Hey. I'm holding on for you. Yeah, y'all too young, man. Y'all too young to know what's going on right now. Nah, my older brothers know what's going on. My older brothers know what's going on. Hey. Ooh. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. When the closed-minded women want you to teach some things, grab you a Tylenol. You might need it. I want to stay up. Hey. I got to let this rock for a little bit, y'all. I'm sorry. I know we want to go home. I got to let this go for a little bit. I mean, word to moms. What y'all doing this weekend, ain't they? Come on. Super Bowl. Outside of your Super Bowl plans. What's up with your Friday and Saturday nights? Right in the crib. Getting ready for the Super Bowl. In the crib. Y'all know we got a severe cold front, right? One degree tomorrow. One degree, four degrees. Central heat. I will be here. I don't care about that shit. And space heaters. Yeah. Yo, again, if you're out there and you are homeless, climb your ass under a car with a blanket. I ain't going to hold you, niggas. The homeless niggas are dying from hypothermia. It's going to be warmer next week, though, thank God. Yeah, but they've got to survive tonight to make it the next week. Climb under a car, yo. What's wrong with you? For real. You've got to body the heat game if you're homeless. They bodied it, too. Hey Mona what you on this weekend man I'm just getting prepared for my birthday next week Hey Hey We in Philly on the 14th And we in DC we had a second show on Sunday I'm working on my birthday Get some tickets nigga We got you We got you We got you Let me see what I got going on this weekend Not too much to write home about Keeping it low Keeping it light Saving some money Fucking Bitcoin is down I lost 200 grand Crazy down Yeah, yeah It don't matter You still buying? I'm still buying But I lost like 200 grand More than that Probably 250 More than that It's cool You got some Bitcoin over there You got more than two coins I wouldn't know what I got I know how much money I had And I know how much money I got now One coin is 66 grand Yo, y'all have a good weekend Now, actually, man, hold up for a minute, man. Hold up for a minute, man, for the freaks out there. Stop playing with us. Stop playing with us, man, on Super Bowl weekend. Here it goes. A lot of that ish money on them niggas. Ish money. What? Y'all hold it down out there, man. Really enjoyed this broadcast. We will see you same time, same place next week. Have a good Super Bowl weekend. Stay, stay, stay, stay, stay, stay. Hey. Make sure to get your Valentine's Day planned together. Go to the gas station, get your flowers as need be. The Booster Booster's got me. That is when you hit the boosters. I got you a new vacuum cleaner. I'm glad. Happy Valentine's Day. Sorry, it's with the hat. So you can get flowers from the booster, but you can't get a bag? Like, what are we talking about, yo? Yeah, I can get a bag, but it's going to be for her. I know. Mine, I want with the duster bag. I want with the shopping bag. I want with the receipt. I want my customer service. See, his idea of a booster, this nigga is a smoker. Yeah, you got the old school. Crackhead. Yeah, you got the old school. Shermhead booster. Joe, these niggas pull up with a trunk full of everything. You get everything. Where? Where? Where? I don't want the booster coming to my house. There ain't got to be a house. I can't do whatever, man. I'm not leaving my house. I need the PlayStation. It's a space space, huh? No, no, no. I trust my booster. Y'all niggas make too much money to be bums. No booster will be willing to meet you. Yeah, these niggas will send you a thing of everything they got your dog. This what we got right here And what else do you need? What else y'all be needing from the booster vacuum when I just watch you since you ask this is this week How would you say you know what I'm not so mad at that really wonder how much yeah, but I'm not mad at that Matter of fact, I bought three. I bought one for my man. The one that I bought for my man, it was $7,200, and they gave it to me for $3,300. What you talking about? You take that for a friend of yours. Yes. He gave me my money back, and then I bought two for myself. The systems alone was about $3,300, $3,100 apiece. He gave me two for $3,500. I'm not mad at you. You sit over there and do what you're doing, nigga. I just said I'm not mad at you, but that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. my mind I clear a point of you no you got shout to the and if y'all know any good boosters you know where you should I said jealousy is a motherfucker niggas mad as shit they paid a thousand dollars for the vacuum niggas paid a thousand dollars for the vacuum they tight come on now that's the other thing your little $1400 boy if I could get them for five yeah We gonna come in here And mention what you I hate when niggas Detect jealousy Wrong Like I may be jealous About this shit But I'm But cool We just know That right there This particular topic I'm gonna start coming in With all my stuff That particular topic I'm secure with Listen y'all Hold it down out there man Have a safe Fun Amazing Warm Superbowl weekend And until next time man Y'all hold it down If I could do this What? If you could do this Being a nigga here A lot would be different Congrats to show up Congrats to show up J.B.P. J.B.P. Where would you be without J.B.P.? Let's fold that up right now. You've never heard of Joe, buddy. They're going to come to them.