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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Grobelbeck and the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions. You did it. You did it. Craig, how do you feel? Well, I'm feeling pretty good. You know, no one's really talking about the fact that, sure, the Patriots have six Super Bowls, but they also have six Super Bowl losses. You know what I mean? Six and six in the Super Bowl, kind of ugly. The Steelers, six and two in the Super Bowl. I feel like that's what we should be talking about. We needed to be making this about the Steelers, that's for sure, yeah. DK, Seahawks fan, won the Super Bowl. How does it feel? It feels incredible. This was an ass-kicking. I feel like Craig was saying it basically the whole game. The score was a lot closer than it felt during the game. Like, that was the Seahawks absolutely dominated, basically from start to finish. First three quarters, it was felt to ass. Felt to ass. Yeah, so I feel great. Particularly defensively. It's because the Seahawks couldn't stop kicking field goals, which is why the game felt closer than it actually was. Right, right, right. But I feel great. I'm excited. So you always joke that a familiar feeling after a Seahawks win, misery. What is your, like? This is good. Elation. It got a little miserable there for a while because it was so close until, I don't know, they went up 29-7 after the interception pick six. And then at that point, I was like, okay, I feel good. So 29-13, DK, you seemed relatively calm. You didn't talk a whole lot during the game. You checked your heart rate. It was flying in the first quarter. Yeah, you were a whoop, and your whoop was like, what are you doing right now? Yeah, your cortisol was up. 9-0 at halftime, but you felt pretty confident the whole game, I feel like. I did, yeah. I think because the Seahawks' defense did exactly what I thought I would do in basically just slowly draining the life out of the Patriots' offense. I mean, if you look at some of the stats for Drake May for their run game, basically their offense, through three quarters, they had punted, I think, more times than they had completed a pass. So that was pretty much exactly what I expected to see. And then on the offensive side of the ball, like for the Seahawks, they had a couple of misplays. There was a Sam Darnold just barely missed JSN. He would have been free for like an 85-yard touchdown. That was early in the game. He should have underthrew a touchdown at the end of the first half to JSN, had to miss Rashid Shaheed, should have had a touchdown. The Seahawks won by two touchdowns. Really, they won by like four field goals. But they won by two touchdowns, but very easily Seattle could have won by four touchdowns. Yeah, it was, I mean, it went about exactly what I expected. I mean, the game ended up having more points than I expected early on, but I thought the Seahawks were going to dominate defensively, and they did exactly that. I mean, it was just, the Patriots could not move the football. They, you know, until the fourth quarter when they had that touchdown to Matt Collins, I think on those two plays, they had more yards on those two plays than all plays prior to that. Yes. So, I mean, the Seahawks really put the clamps down, and, you know, the offense made enough plays. Sam Darnold made a couple of nice throws. Kenneth Walker was awesome. He made some explosive runs. Super Bowl MVP Ken Walker. Yeah, Super Bowl MVP Ken Walker. I've been saying it for 10 damn years. And then their special teams were awesome. This is kind of like the story of the Seahawks. This felt like the Seahawks season in a nutshell was their defense was absolutely dominant. Their special teams came through in the clutch. I mean, obviously, the kicking game was great. Myers had all of his kicks, I believe. And then the punter, Dixon. Michael Dixon, shouts out that guy Yeah, just coffin cornered it like three or four times Pinned the Patriots back They won the field position game And Sam Darnold didn't turn the ball over No turnovers by the Seahawks during the playoffs Which, to me, that is the biggest stat probably of them all The Seahawks offense completely reversed And I talked about it all season It was like the only thing that was driving me crazy about the Seahawks season Was that they kept turning the ball over These stupid turnovers And Darnold led the league in turnovers Yeah, and then zero turnovers in the playoffs. Let's just talk about Darnold then. Yeah. I agree. Darnold, I mean, this is one of the most incredible stories in any sport, like certainly in our lifetime. It's the comeback of, like the truth is, like you build people up and then people like tearing people down. And then we also like seeing them get built up again. We pretend we weren't the ones making fun of them. But like we were. And Sam Darnold was a great prospect. And then it was very funny to make fun of him. Obviously, the fifth, the fourth quarter. Yeah, got mono. Saw Ghost. Saw Ghost. That was funny. And, I mean, this is amazing. But I agree with what you said. Like, the defense obviously was incredible for Seattle. But the thing we'll remember from this in terms of Darnold's legacy is Sam Darnold, the seeing ghost guy who even, like, when he had the Vikings season melted down, all the turnovers, everything, even go back to that Niners Week 18 game, which was for the number one seed in the conference, didn't turn the ball over in that game either. So the last four games that were basically playoff games, Mike Duggar at The Athletic had this, that Sam Darnold basically completed like 67% of his passes and had no turnovers in Seattle's final four games. Sam Darnold had no turnovers in the final four games. And it's funny, they were in the beginning of this game, the Patriots' defensive backs were so aggressive. They were trying to jump routes. They were undercutting routes, jumping in front of passing lanes, all that stuff. It was scary. And Darnold wasn't making bad throws. They were incredibly accurate. It's the only reason why they weren't picked off, but they were incredibly risky based on where the defensive backs were. Craig made the point during the game, and I kept thinking about it, that Darnold's passes were giving us, like, real clench territory because it was Darnold. But you were like, you know, if Mahomes was doing this, he'd be like, oh, my God, he's so good. So perfect. But he did have a couple misses, but there were some throws that were, like, threading the needle between defenders. But because it's Darnold, I'm like, that's a bad decision. But throughout, he had some incredible throws in this game. And, again, I really think, though, The thing that is like the defining part of Sam Darnold's career resurgence is the single worst part of his game, which was dealing with interior pressure up the middle. He would panic and make bad decisions was the biggest strength he had in this game. Because the truth is the middle of the Seahawks defensive line. Sorry, the middle of the Seahawks offensive line got beat almost as bad. Their biggest vulnerability. Yeah, like honestly, we're going to talk a lot. The Patriots rookie offensive lineman got their shit kicked. in this game. But the Seahawks middle of the offensive line almost also got destroyed. Milton Williams kept coming up the middle of the field at Darnold. And he kept making a miss like a matador, stepping up in the pocket, making plays, scrambling, or even just throwing the ball away. But he had, there were genuinely four or five plays in the first half that Sam Darnold could have taken a sack, done something done, done a Carson Wentz, and he either made something positive or didn't do anything dumb. And that is maturity and that is 100% what has changed in his career. It's a great call. He, I think Steven Ruiz tweeted this. He was playing like May had played for most of the season. Sam Darnold basically did what May had did all season, which was when pressure comes up, he was stepping. He wasn't even scrambling a bunch. He was just sidestepping the pressure. Yeah, and then there was one play in particular when things were getting kind of dicey in the fourth quarter and the CX were kind of trying to run the ball out, to run the clock out, and they set up a screen. the Patriots sniffed it out big time, and it was reminiscent of the Stidham play against the Broncos where he just kept backing up, backing up, backing up. Stidham made the mistake of throwing the ball backwards, and it turned into a touchdown. Darnold just chucked it at the ground, saved the play, lived to see another down, they punted it away, whatever. That, to me, was kind of emblematic of what Darnold did late in the season. It really does feel like he exercised the demons by beating the Rams in that huge, very pivotal game, I believe it was like week 17 or 16. And because like before that, he had gone through a stretch in the middle of the season where he had like 10 turnovers in like three games and he was kind of melting down. And it could have gone either way. Like he could have snowballed and it could have gotten a lot worse, but he got better. He kind of calmed down and the CX did a good job of coaching him. And their run game took off too, like in the second half of the season. So that was really helpful. But, yeah, I can't explain how awesome it feels to see what Darnold did in the second half of the year. In the playoffs, he kind of just, to me, eliminated all the doubts that I had about him during the course of the season. Where I was like, man, this is a Super Bowl caliber defense, but what is Sam Darnold going to do? I mean, he freaking, all those doubts in my mind evaporated. I mean, the mental toughness for Darnold. Yeah. I mean, when the signing happened, we were like, Gina Smith for Darnold, what are we doing? Like he just melted down again. But to your point, I exercise in the demons thing, the larger run. This is an all time exercise. The demons run between Sam Darnold, but also DK, the Seattle Seahawks winning the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Yeah. Who you had the worst Super Bowl moment with the Malcolm Butler thing. So you beat them. Yeah. And you do it in the 49ers stadium. And the 49ers are your most bitter rival. You literally beat, you avenged the worst loss in your team history in the stadium with Kyle Shannon having to do in the little pregame show with the, you know, and Fred Warner in San Francisco. So do you just feel unclouded? It's delicious. Just absolutely delicious. I swear. I mean, like this season in total has been so incredible from the way that they beat the Rams late in the season twice, the way that they beat the 49ers late in the season twice. I can't ask for any more to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl in San Francisco on the 49ers home field. The Seahawks defense doing what they did. Yeah. I can't imagine a better outcome for someone's team. Like, truly, that is insane what just happened. I didn't even really think about the fact that you went through both division rivals in the playoffs. You humiliated everybody. Going through the NFC is a freaking gauntlet. And the Seahawks, and they proved what I kind of felt in my heart, that the NFC had prepared the Seahawks for this game, and it was going to be utter domination, at least on the defensive side of the ball. My main fear was, like, Sam Darnold or, you know, the offense or whatever just doing something silly, giving the ball up. I feel like the big question going in was, like, the turnover. She was going to win the turnover battle. Drake may have three turnovers. Darnold had zero. I was incredibly impressed with Darnold's maturity. And I feel like mentally going forward for Darnold, now he's going to be even more comfortable and unlocked. like the fact that he finished the job if he had lost the Super Bowl it's obviously still a huge accomplishment making the Super Bowl, his whole season was great, all that stuff but man, I feel like I trust him so much more going forward now because the monkeys and his teammates adore him I mean his teammates Ernest Jones, the linebacker famously early on in the season was like if you're not behind Sam Darnold, fuck you and then he did it again after they went into the I think after they won the NFC Championship game He's like, again, anyone who doubts Sam Darnold, fuck you. He's like, if you don't chew Big Red, fuck you. Great stat about Darnold. The first quarterback to win a Super Bowl on his fifth team. Yeah. I mean, how many people get the chance to do that? I mean, it's insane. And, again, I think I really do think the Darnold thing – and, again, Drake May kind of played like what we thought Sam Darnold might play like. And Darnold played how Drake May played against a shitty schedule. He looked scared. The pocket presence thing that you were talking about was so real. May was stiff back there. The interior line would get pushed into him, and he wasn't maneuvering around it well. Tarno was doing all that stuff. It's the difference between being 23 and being, like, 29. And it's the – I think this game from the quarterback level is the embodiment of when the game slows down and, like, what that means. It's like the game is slower for you. And the way I think of it sometimes with quarterback is – like, basically, Milton Williams, who's 330 pounds and a crazy athlete and trying to kill you. He's trying to hit you as hard as possible, and he's, like, 10 feet away. And the difference is it's kind of like a basketball player where you, like LeBron or any good point guard, can close their eyes and they can tell you where all the other nine people are on the court. And the difference in being quarterback is when you're 23 and Drake met, it's really hard to have Nick Immunori running as fast as possible, even if you get around him, and then look back up and do you remember where the other nine people in downfield are? And sometimes you need five years of reps and a lot of mental reps and a better system because you could just tell Darnold was tight-stepping Milton Williams, not panicking. And he's like, I know where to go. And to be able to do that in one second sometimes takes people six years. And I think that's what we saw with Donald. And they blitzed the shit out of Drake. Oh, my God. That was an interesting storyline in this game because the Seahawks defense, during the whole season, basically, the M.O. on them was they can get pressure with four and they can get sacks by not blitzing. Basically, they were one of the least blitz-heavy teams in the NFL all season long, but they also were one of the highest pressure rate teams in the NFL. And the way they do that is by, you know, you're making it look like six or seven different guys are going to come and then you drop a few guys back. What was that? You're going to make it. All these guys are coming. So it's the Bukkake defense. They're just coming all over. It's the Bukkake. But I mean, what we saw from Devin Witherspoon today was a classic example of, you know, giving the team something that they really hadn't seen or didn't like expect. And he came in on a couple of blitzes. I was impressed how much you kind of just, I just powered ahead. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, they blitz a bunch in the first half. It really rattled May. It really felt like it rattled May. I mean, he got sacked, I think, six times in this game, plus he had the pick six, which was kind of another sack. And so, you know, this was, I think, an awesome game plan by Mike McDonald. I mean, he dominated in this game as well. This was, I think, coming into the game, one of the big schematic chess match things was the Patriots were one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL, explosive play rate. and the Seahawks were one of the most explosive, like limiting explosive plays on defense. On that note, just how important that is, Bill Barnwell had a great breakdown at East Bend this week where he pointed out that in the new NFL last three years, teams that have more explosive plays than the other team, like basically more 12-yard runs or 16-yard pass plays, it's actually more correlated with wins than turning the ball. More predictive, yeah. The first thing analytics proves was that the turnover battle is right. Like, if you win the turnover battle, you're going to win the game. And the last three seasons, having more explosive plays than the other team made you more likely to win than getting more turnovers than the other team. And then, so this game was the Patriots had the most explosive plays on offense. The Oaks allowed the fewest. And to your point, it wasn't even close. And there was very little. Any explosive play for the Patriots happened kind of in semi-garbage time. Yeah, the last. I think so. Yeah, the biggest plays for the Patriots were... They had the Matt Collins touchdown. It was the Matt Collins two plays. But then there was stuff like Henderson had like a 24-yard catch in the fourth quarter. I mean, that was when the game was folded over. So here, real quick, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven out of the top eight plays, according to yards by the Patriots, were in the fourth quarter. And it was garbage time mostly at that point. The two big plays, basically the two actually important plays in this game that the Patriots hit were the two plays to Matt Collins. Yeah, it was that one drive. Yeah. Yeah, and that was, which honestly, winner was NBC for that drive happening because a lot of people were checking out at that point. And so, I mean, to your point about the defense, and again, both teams blitzed a lot, to be clear. The Patriots, I think Ollie Connolly, who has a subsect, pointed out that the Patriots' first half blitzed like 70% of the time or something insane. Like they were just, like they were jumping on routes. It was insane. But the Seahawks, to your point, they rarely blitzed on third down, but when they would, they would always get there. And in this game, they just blitzed every third down. Like Devin Witherspoon could have been the MVP of the game. Like he had the two sacks. Devin Witherspoon blitzing personally ended like three different drives. It was kind of an old school game. I don't think there was a fourth down attempt in this game. It was field goals. There was no two-point conversion. Field position. He was taking the points, punt the ball, play it safe. I mean, Vrabel didn't go for two when they were down 12. He could have made it down 11. He didn't do it. That was kind of bizarre, yeah. It was a very old school, like, try to get sacks, win the turnover, win the game. There was 15 punts in this game. It was defense. How would you grade this game in general for the average fan? I mean, for me, it was awesome. But, yeah, for the average fan, probably a pretty boring. Yeah, boring. No, I mean, it was better than 13-3, Pat's Rams, but it was better than last year's game because it was better than the Eagles Chiefs. Well, people say they didn't like it. For me, it was. Okay, we get that. You don't count for this. People say it was. Try to be objective. It was fun watching the Eagles belt the Chiefs. Yeah, it was. Who do you think would win? It was shocking. If we just picked up, if we went back in time and these Seahawks played the Eagles last year, what do you think the game would be like? I mean, I said this, I think the other day, I think the Seahawks are better than those Eagles. I'm standing by that, but I think it would have been an awesome game. I worry offensively that's what Seattle would have been able to do against Philly's defense last year. But going through defense, there's no disrespect to them. I'm obviously a Seahawks fan. But, yeah. I mean, the fact that the Seahawks won this game, Jackson Smith and Jigbo was a non-factor. He had 27 yards. He hurt his ankle slash. Maybe he had a concussion. Was out for a while. Pretty irrelevant. I mean, Cooper Cup had 60 yards in this game. It was all Ken Walker, basically. Ken Walker was unbelievable. He deserves Super Bowl MVP. I mean, again, first running back to win Super Bowl MVP since Terrell Davis. In 98. Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that we were debating whether it was going to be Ken Walker or Myers, the kicker, or Dixon, the punter for MVP. You could have given it to my guy. Dixon, honestly, like the fact that we're talking about special teams. I mean, Myers was his longest field goal. Like, he wasn't even hit his 55 yarders. He didn't do anything. He was punching him in. The punter was more impressive. Every time they got the ball inside the five-year-old. I mean, he was huge in his longest field goal. But the first half. Seven punts for Michael Dixon. Yeah. No, but really the first three quarters. The only difference between the team, like both defenses were playing really well. The difference was that Will Campbell for left tackle for the Patriots sucked, but Ken Walker was amazing. And, I mean, Ken Walker, there was a point 40 minutes into the game. He had as many yards as the rest of the Seahawks total. At halftime, I believe Ken Walker had 16 more yards than all the Patriots combined. There was a stat that Ken Walker was the third player in Super Bowl history that had multiple 25 yards runs in a single Super Bowl. That was before the first half was over. Explosive play, what we talked about with explosive plays, The rate of drives that end in a score when you have at least one explosive play is exponentially higher than if you don't, especially in a game like this. When you get 30 yards. Spolastic plays are huge. When you get 30 yards and the kickers can make 50-yard field goals, then you're going to get a field goal, and then this was a field goal game. The other thing is he had nine. I saw a snap from PFF. He had nine broken tackles in this game, which is I think more than everyone else combined in the game. I have a new nickname for Kent Walker, and I want to call him Chicken Salad Because every time he gets chicken shit and there's some play that should lose a yard, he turns it into four. And every four-yard run, he turns it into like 14 or 30. Well, that's what, yeah, early in the game we were talking about, I can't remember the exact context of it, but they basically did an outside run. And I think for 95% of the running backs in the NFL would have got stuff for a three-yard loss. But he got to the corner, got to the edge, and gained like 10 or 15 yards on the run. It gets back to the explosive play thing. Yeah. Like having a guy like Ken Walker who can turn chicken shit into chicken salad obviously means so much more now that like one 20 or 30 yard run can completely change the trajectory of the game. And on that, yeah. And Ken Walker was phenomenal. He deserved it again. He was great. He had half the, he had as many yards as all the Seahawks combined at one point, like pretty late in the game. And he almost had that extra 30, 40 yard touchdown to close the game. Which would have been so much. They call the hold on it. Because he had 160 total yards, but he would have had over 200. That would have been cool. I think I saw that would have been the NFL or the Super Bowl record. That rushing record. That would have been really cool. Before we get off the defense, though, we have to go back to the Seahawks defense because it was so impressive. I mean, there are so many things you could say, but in short, this was the number one defense against the run and the number one defense against the pass this season. And then you go into this game, and I mean, I don't even know where to start, but Seattle allowed 78 yards through three quarters. And then I – The Patriots had 51 total yards of offense at halftime, which is the second fewest in Super Bowl history. Oh, sorry. Second fewest this century behind only the Chiefs last year. Who had 23. Before the game was functionally over, I would argue the Patriots had six or seven. Oh, fuck. I did it. Shit. There is something. You do always land on six, seven saying, I don't know why. Well, you know, so I was going to say four or five or six. Five or six doesn't flow as easy. Seven, eight. I guess seven. It's just subconscious. But they have like six good plays in the entire game. Yeah. And two of them were on the Matt Collins drive. And they couldn't run the ball at all. No. And they came out. I mean, they came out. they had one good play in the beginning, but after, I mean, put it this way. Honestly, it's funny. Just look at the first, like the way the game actually went. The Seahawks defense did so well. The first half, the Patriots literally punted five straight times and then kneeled to go to halftime. So they started with five punts and then a kneel. They'd come out for the second half. Three and out, three and out, three and out. Turnover, turnover, turnover. It's about as good as it gets. Yeah. I mean, the, yeah. I was kind of bummed. I was kind of bummed in the fourth quarter. Flying around, even worry, flying around. You know what it is? I wanted the beatdown numbers. The fourth quarter made it look a little bit interesting. The Patriots did what the Chiefs did last year, where you look back at the Super Bowl, and it was like 40-21. It was 40-6, basically, and that's what this game was. That's why I think we need a true game score stat, like true shooting percentage. I think the true game score here, it was like 35-7. That's what the game felt like. I wanted to call it, this is last year and this year, I think I call it like a friend zone game. where you're like, if you weren't there and you just kind of, like it seems like you were close, but if the people there were like, they never had a shot. Right. If somebody called me and was like, oh, 29-13, like, okay, how competitive was it? I'd be like, no, it was really like 35-7. That's how it felt. DK, are you going to buy Super Bowl merch? Do you do that? Yeah, I'll buy some. I bought some from Super Bowl 48. I like doing that. I think that it always ages nicely. Like to have that 20, 30 years from now and be like, oh, I have the 2026 T-shirt, I think it's nice. You absolutely should get your hands on all the Super Bowl. I know. I love doing that stuff. It's the best. Because also, you literally never throw it away. It's like the only... No, I have like two workout jackets from their first Super Bowl. Yeah. And yeah, those are like prize possession type stuff. Yeah. I would probably... Like the only clothing I would grab if my apartment was on fire was my Super Bowl 42 shirt. Like that's... It's the best thing ever. We got to get you a hat. What if it was that versus your cat? Which would you grab? The cat first, obviously. I have a whole plan for the cat. I'm one of those people that would probably, unfortunately, die going back for my cat. Like, I would rather, like, die than live without it. Than live without your cat. We have an important conversation to have, though. Okay. We have to be serious. It is time for America's favorite segment. Oh. Fart. Or shart. DK. Kenny Kelly. Why do you ask me? Where have you been? What do you mean? What have we been doing? We unfortunately have to talk about The almost MVP Drake Mabee Who today, you can't look at his stat line Because he almost had 300 yards The fakest stat line of all time You can't look at it at all Seven minutes left in the third quarter He had 18 total pass yards You can't look at it 300 yards, two touchdowns, two picks, a fumble He ran for almost 40 DK Where are we at here? Is this a, look, this is the guy's second year They had an easy schedule. He overachieved. Drake may maybe even still deserve the MVP based on his regular season stats. Or is it, I don't know, maybe this man was kind of exposed, and this is going to be a longer process than we thought. Is this guy actually elite, or is he benefiting from the schedule? I don't think this is a shart. I think the stuff that he— Well, the game was a shart. You're saying, to his career, this is not that important. If the question is, like, is he actually bad? A fart is like, a fart I think means it's like, that was bad, but if you wait, it'll pass. A shard is like something might need to change. Does it temporarily change your opinion of him or permanently? Temporarily. I mean, look, he certainly, I think this game shows in basically all the games in the playoffs. He had like a pretty horrific playoff run despite the fact that they made it to the Super Bowl. If you look at his stats, their offense played four very good defenses in the playoffs. And their offense was very bad against all four teams. This was a better win for Seattle than it was a worse loss for New England. But that being said, we're talking about Matt Collins, we're talking about Keishon Booty, we're talking Stefan Diggs, 31 years old or whatever he is, coming off an ACL. The offensive line was completely overmatched. Will Campbell. Completely overmatched. I agree with you. So I think he'll be fine. I think there is now, losing a Super Bowl is psychologically very difficult for a lot of players. Well, we saw what happened. Sometimes it can ruin the vibes of the whole roster. Drake May, don't take the team to Hawaii. Right. Don't do that. Luckily, I feel like this was a team loss for the Patriots. Like, they were bad pretty much everywhere. Their defense was pretty good. What are you going to do? They ran into a buzzsaw. I think this was a fart for Drake May. I mean, look, you had the most stacks in a playoff run ever. You had the most fumbles in a playoff run ever. I mean, the interception he had. That's damning stuff, but at the same time, yeah. What's annoying is if you're a Patriots fan, you can easily just lean back and say, look, okay, sure. He's a 23-year-old big deal. Look, it's a fart for Drake May, but it's a shart for Will Campbell and Jared Wilson and, like, the rookies on the offensive line. It was a shart for the offensive line. But if we're being honest, we said this as a joke on Friday. I actually think it was probably the smartest thing we said the entire two weeks between the Super Bowl and the championship games. This was weirdly not a must-win game for the Patriots. And we said that as a joke. Of course the Super Bowl is a must-win game. If we're being honest, if you actually look at, like, any Super Bowl in, let's just say, 30 years, has a fan base ever been able to talk themselves into that wasn't that big of a deal faster than New England Patriots fans right now and this loss? Because the reality is, aside from they just won six Super Bowls and they rooted for Tom Brady seven times. I know. It's like, oh, no, the 12th Super Bowl in my lifetime. In reality, I'm the captain of the ship for the whole losing the Super Bowl destiny to an organization. I don't think that's the case for this one because the reality is they're ahead of schedule. This team lost 13 games last year. They had 30 new players on the team this year. They weren't supposed to. Mike Vrabel's... Dude. Unfortunately, Heifetz is right. For a Patriots fan, big deal. They'll be fine. Yeah. Not only is it this team probably shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl, but also you just went to 11 in the 21st century. So it's not even like, you know, you're you're the Bengals and you're like, we're never here. This is this matters so much. We're the Cardinals. We may never get back. Yes. Rabel. It's his first year as a head coach for the Patriots. It's Drake May's second season. And the reality is they team. The talent was really bad. And I don't mean that as a dig at the Patriots. It's incredible the team made it this far at all. And it's a sign of how incredible Drake May is and Mike Vrabel. And so the reason I reject the Florida chart, we had to ask it, because he played poorly. But the reality is the entire Patriots offense relied on this 23-year-old kid who won one game in the season. And he almost won MVP. And he played so well. And mostly on his incredible deep accuracy to players. I can stress enough that the Bills fans almost like stormed the facility for the Bills headquarters because of how bad the receiving core was and that Stephon Diggs and Matt Collins were kicked overboard by the Bills Yeah And they playing in this game for the Patriots Yeah Kayshawn Booty a sixth pick playing for the Patriots Like all these guys like and again Will Campbell and Jared Wilson are the first rookies to ever both start on an offensive line in the Super Bowl Like, yeah. You know what? They got their shit kicked in by a fucking one of the best defenses ever. That's not a surprise. You know what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I just, we talked about this coming in. Well, we said that the Rams-Seattle game was the Super Bowl, and it kind of was. It absolutely – well, I was going to say. I kind of hate saying that, but – It was. Yeah, it was. Look, it's one of those that feels presumptuous ahead of time, but then later, like, I have a whole list of people who are, like, winners and losers that aren't in this game. But I think Sean McVay, top of the list, because the same way that he – I think McVay and Shanahan feel like McVay stole a Super Bowl from Kyle because the Rams-Bangles thing, there was a feeling that other NFC team would have won that game, which it became closer. But this is, like, McVay and Stafford, this was their chance. Like they, if like this, this whole result does feel representative because it felt like Rams and Seahawks were the best two teams the entire season. And we kept talking about parity and this whole year, like, wow, anyone could win it. But this result feels right because Seattle felt like the best defense wire to wire. And the Texans were, you know, other conference opposite style of defense. The Texans were also awesome. But the reality is the Seahawks were the best team wire to wire. And like even the three games they lost, the week one loss to the Niners, like, man, they should have won that game. and then even the game they lost to the Rams where Darnold threw four picks they lost by two points they tried to kick a 60 yard field goal I think at the end and they missed they were close to winning that they really almost won all three games they lost and then again the games they won they kind of blew the fucking doors off all the teams blew the bloody doors off it was just them and the Rams I don't know where this fits in but I felt this way the whole season and it feels especially strong now There's so many parallels between this team and the Seahawks in 2013, where the Seahawks in 2013, if you don't remember, one of the best teams in the NFL. This is Russell Wilson, Marshall Lynch. Russell Wilson, Marshall Lynch, the Legion of Boom at its height pretty much. Some incredible personalities on that team. I think that was one of the more brash, high-personality teams of all time. That's the biggest difference between that team and this team. That's what really feels the most different to me is this Seahawks team is very, they internalize things more. I think they're there. It's all about us. We just do our jobs. We're going to win. They're like McDonald. He's quiet. 100%. And like Pete Carroll's like boisterous, runner out on the sideline. They had Richard Sherman, Michael Bennett, Marshawn Lynch, Percy Harvin, Golden Tate, all these guys that are just larger than life. But if you look at the parallels between that season and this season, so basically that season, it was the 49ers and the Seahawks were the two best teams in the NFL. And the bet and the Superbowl, according to all the players was the NFC championship game when the Seahawks one on that Richard Sherman tipped it to Malcolm Smith in Kaepernick. It was like Kaepernick to Crabtree, Richard Sherman tipped it, game over, going to the Super Bowl. Is that when Sherman yelled into the camera? Don't ever test me with the sorry ass. And we just told the story this a few weeks ago of why he was so mad, and apparently Crabtree came up to him at some party, like the offseason before. Dude, it was in the summer. They hated each other before, and it was fun. That was his redemption arc. So who do you think, when you look back, who do you look back on as a better team? Because I know it's not over yet, because part of it's the Legion boom went to the Super Bowl two years in a row. But the Seahawks are probably going to be Super Bowl favorites next year, because most of these players are coming back. I know, the Seahawks have a ton of cap space. Darnold's still under contract. They're young. They do have some older guys that are really critical, but I don't think they'll be going anywhere at least for one more year. The older players on this team are better than the older players. players were on the Legion of Boom. But to answer your question, and I said this before, and I still feel that way pretty much, that 2013 CX team felt, I don't know why, just historic. They were just so cocky and confident. I do think the personality matters. It's because, well, also, the way we remember it is because instead of this team beating the Patriots, it was Peyton Manning threw for 5,700 passing yards and threw for like 55 touchdowns. And they literally the most points, yards, touchdowns in the history of the NFL. And then they scored eight fucking points. And they got lost by 30. I remember my buddy Curtis Crabtree was reporting on that game, and I very vividly remember him saying after the game, it didn't feel like a surprise to any of the Seahawks. They came in knowing they were going to win that game. But that's what I was getting to. Basically, the full circle of it is I felt this way all week. You guys can attest. I was obviously very nervous still because weird things snap in any games. But I felt all week, all two weeks, that the Seahawks just knew they were better. Which is a terrifying place to be in. You're like, I really think we should win this game. I was like, I feel very confident they're the better team. But weird shit happens, you know. But, dude, even in the interviews after the game, it was like Mike McDonald's style permeated the team so much. Totally. Like Ken Walker and Darnold. None of these guys were that excited. I love my teammates. Yeah. Good job. It was almost like the environment is so intense and serious in the locker room, they forgot to be excited. But they thought there was another round. Yeah. I was expecting them to be like, well, this is fun and all, but we've got to get focused on week one next year. What are they all going to be watching tape? The only person excited was Jody Allen. Well, Jody Allen. But Witherspoon had a good interview after the game. Devin Witherspoon, who I think is kind of the spirit animal of the defense. He's just playing. He's a maniac out there. And after the game, he was very happy and boisterous. And he's like, I'm going to go have a beer, maybe two. Maybe three. I don't know. We'll see. So he was great. But, yeah, the overwhelming feeling of the postgame was like, we knew we were going to win this. This was great. It was kind of anti-climactic. It was like, Donald, how's it feel? He's like, love my teammates. It was a great win. We did it together. Well, he shouted out the defense. Yeah. And he was like, hey, 12s, give it up to the defense. You got your mind? Because I feel like we're always like the defense. And I kind of want to go through the players on the Seahawks defense because it's an all-time team. They're going to be the Super Bowl favorites next year. They were all healthy. Even Nick and Munwari couldn't walk on Wednesday was unbelievable. Some of the videos came out, by the way, we didn't really talk about. And Munwari got hurt after we recorded whenever it was, Thursday. Wednesday, we recorded. And the videos that we saw of him, there was one video of him getting out of a truck and walking. I was like, this guy can't walk. No. That is extremely concerning because one other variable, like last, the Super Bowl, the CX lost to the Patriots in 2014. I don't know if you remember this, but Cam Chancellor got hurt on like Friday. He hurt his MCL in a practice, and then he was not nearly himself in the game. And so I was like, oh, my God, this is Cam all over again. This is insane. But he was fine. He played great. Well, I was going to say, I want to go through some of these players because they were unbelievable. Again, Devin Witherspoon, who not only could have been, or at least was maybe the defensive MVP of this game, but just the blitzing that they – and, again, it's just coming in like a missile. It's funny. The whole, like, you send five guys at a bad offensive line because you want everyone one-on-one. And the Seahawks kept blitzing, and it was both a tendency breaker and exposed them. So you have safeties running around guards and tackles. and they were so good. But it's more than that. It's Devin Witherspoon, who, again, was one of the picks they got in the Russell Wilson trade. I believe, yeah. And he's the embodiment. Again, Mike Sean Duggar just wrote a book about the Legion of Boom, and it's phenomenal, and I recommend it if you're a Seahawks fan. But he talks about that team versus this team. He's like, Devin Witherspoon's the embodiment of this team. Like, if you're like, who does Mike McDonald want everyone to play like on a – not a day-to-day, a snap-to-snap thing. How you carry yourself in practice is everything. It's like Kobe Bryant or any great athlete. Jordan, how you carry yourself in practice is how you carry yourself in the game and when you're like who should i look to as a rookie of how to carry myself is devon witherspoon and he's unbelievable you have nick em and worry who again is this freak athlete that is like the key to the secondary and is the reason this team went from good on defense to elite is that nick em and worry basically is able again like he's able to play as a pass defender and he's so freaking fast that he can play as a run defender and running up and like still blitzing without even being near the line of scrimmage but he after i was worried that he would not be himself and then And early in the first half, when a huge play, there was a second and 20. Like the Patriots got a – or the Seahawks sacked Drake May. It was a second and 20. And Drake May scrambled. He almost took up the entire 20 yards and got a first down to get the whole thing. And Nicky Manwari runs up. Tackle in his face. Sheds a – no, but he sheds a block. Right. He gets blocked. Basically, like, trucks the blocker, knocks him out of the way, like, stack and shed, and then grabs Drake May and brings him down and creates a third and nine or third and 11 instead of a first down. Yeah, he had a lot of room after Evan Worry. Dude, he was amazing. And so it's like, I mean, Kobe Bryant almost intercepted a pass. Not the one I just mentioned, the different guy named after Kobe Bryant. Like, everyone in this game was amazing. Like, Byron Murphy, Demarcus Lawrence. I want to go through it real quick because I think this is right. Like, just thinking about some of the players on the team, like the two older guys on the defense that they're going to have to figure out how to fit them in next year, but Leonard Williams and Demarcus Lawrence. Demarcus Lawrence, straight up one of the best offseason. Him and Sam Darnold are the two best offseason free agent signings, maybe in the NFL this year. Wait, him and who? Darnold. I'm sorry, I was distracted because, you know, Leonard Williams and Darnold both came from the Jets. And the Giants, Jets to Giants, Leonard Williams, both New York teams gave up on Leonard Williams, which was a mistake. So going through and watching the game, Uchana Nuoso had a couple big plays. He had that interception. It was an interception, but it was really a sack. And then the ball fell into his hands. Devin Witherspoon hits him and Wosu catches. And then, so the Seahawks' defensive line is like seven or eight guys deep. Craig and I were talking about Boye Mafé at one point in the game because he had a play where I think it was May got outside the pocket and Mafé just closed on him instantly like a heat-seeking missile. And I was like, man, that's just so indicative. Derek Hall had a huge game. Riley Mills, rookie fifth-rounder who had an ACL tear coming into the draft. They see it's got him in the fifth round. He had a play where he just bowled Jared Wilson over right into Drake May for a sack. Like, their defensive line was just all over the place. And then Byron Murphy, I have to mention Byron Murphy, just absolutely dominating on the interior. You know, they just have so many guys. It's so fun to watch that defense. It's worth explaining, like, why is it? Because my dad was like, my dad called me yesterday. He's like, why is this defense so good? And I think sometimes we make it too complicated. Again, there are all the nuances and the details that I don't even want to pretend to understand with this. It's like Mike McDonald is an extremely detail-oriented coach. but it's also not that complicated in that we're growing up. We talked about defenses having a front seven. They don't have a front seven. Seattle has a front six. Like they have four defensive linemen and they have two linebackers, the front six. And they take this six, seven, they take the seventh guy and they put them toward the pass. So it's like they're, they always, instead of having four defenders committed to the passing game, they have five committed to the passing game. So you're like, Oh, if there's only six guys guarding the run instead of seven, you'd think their run defense is bad. Nope. Best run defense in the NFL. So how is it possible to take a guy out of run defense and then get better? And the answer is twofold. They built it that way so that the front six guys are the best and most ass-kicking six guys ever. Because if you know that intentionally, you get Leonard Williams in a trade because you need him to be a run-kicking. Like Byron Murphy, they draft the only defensive tackle in that draft, and he was incredible. That was a mistake. Other teams didn't take him. They go and get DeMarcus Lawrence from Dallas, where other people think he's washed. He's maybe the best run-defending defensive end in the NFL. Well, we also have a sacks. It's like Demarcus Lawrence's run defense at his age makes this possible. Like all these other guys. And again, it's also not that complicated. So the front six, they're all better at run defense than anyone they're facing on offense so they can make up for it. But also, it's simple. Everyone in the secondary can tackle. Like that's it. It's like Devin Witherspoon. He's not a big guy. And we've got to remember this for the draft. Devin Witherspoon is small. He plays big. He's an incredible pass defender. But he can tackle. Nick Iman-Warrior can tackle. Even Rick Wollin, what he wants to, can tackle. Kobe Bryant, Julian Love, all these guys can tackle in the run game. And so they're all cross-trained. And then on top of it, they're all cross-trained. This guy likes to see us more than you. No, this is speaking my language. I love this stuff. Everyone can do everything. What I was thinking while you were doing this breakdown, and you're absolutely right about all these, I think Devin Witherspoon being a maniac, this is why you draft a corner who's 185 pounds or whatever he is, sixth overall. I think he was sixth overall, fifth overall. Yeah, sixth. The Broncos gave up that big Russell. fucking Wolverine. He's just so ferocious. He plays so hard. There were so many plays in this game where he just came out. Watching the broadcast angle, he just flies in off screen and just nails the guy. It's like the most fun play in Madden when you're on defense is to just be the corner and just fly to the quarterback, and it was working. He was swinging around linemen. I was wrong. He was fifth. Fifth overall. Fifth pick in the draft. So the other thing I want to mention here, which really does need to be mentioned, is you mentioned a lot of those guys, DeMarcus Lawrence, Leonard Williams, Jaron Reed, they signed a free agency, all these draft picks that have really panned out. If you look at the last two or three years of draft picks, John Schneider is one of the best GMs in the game. I mean, he now has basically taken two completely different teams to the Super Bowl with different coaches and not one player on the previous team. The only person that even kind of bridges is Jaron Reed. and even then he wasn't really there for the Super Bowls. So what he's done is incredible. I mean, he built and he hired Mike McDonald. Which is also an incredible, I mean, again, did you pick, again, you know what, the real thing, John Schneider, you're totally right about everything you said, where, again, most Super Bowl teams drafted a ton of guys that were above average starters in a very small amount of time. I've said it before, but that Chiefs team, they almost did a three-peat, not because they had Mahomes, but they had Mahomes, and then they hit every defensive pick they made in the draft for three years in a row. And no one knows who Brian Cook is, but Brian Cook is a safety for the Chiefs who almost won freaking three Super Bowls in his first three seasons because they just hit over and over. The Seahawks did that both 15 years ago and now. But the other thing John Schneider did is the Bill Belichick version with the coach. And I know it wasn't up to John Schneider, but Bill Belichick always did the one year early instead of one year late with the players. I think it kind of was a power play by Schneider. Well, then there you go because here's the thing. Think about all the teams that didn't do that. Belichick always wanted to be one year early than one year late in the players, and the Seahawks were a year early and Pete Carroll then a year late. And so look what happened. They got in with Mike McDonald and then they got Mike McDonald. And then look at a couple of these teams. I guess it was two years early, but look at the Steelers and Tomlin where they didn't get. They could have Mike McDonald or they could have had last year. They could have had a Vrabel or Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen. You look at the Ravens with John Harbaugh where they get Jesse Minter. They were fine. I'm just looking at this roster again, man. And we didn't talk about a couple other guys. roster baiting at the end of the season. I'm just looking at this. But look, seriously, we talked about all those guys and the draft picks that John Schneider's hit, JSN and Witherspoon in the same draft. Wasn't it the same draft? Yeah. And then they drafted Murphy last year. They drafted Eman Worry this year and Gray Zabel, who helped transform the offensive line. And then, obviously, in free agency, Sam Darnold and DeMarcus Lawrence. But hold on. they traded for Ernest Jones who transformed their defense. They traded for Rashid Shahid who won the Seahawks probably two or three games this year just based on his explosive play potential. I'm just like looking to sign Cooper Cup in offseason who's been really a good role player for him. What else do they do? Kenneth Walker draft pick. He's been absolutely critical for them. So many of these guys, John Schneider just made the most incredible was A.J. Barner in the fourth round. He scored a touchdown in this game. He's been huge for him this all season. And overall, though, if you count it as one move, trading Geno Smith for a third-round pick and then signing Sam Darnold on the open market, I think it's probably not in the top tier of best moves in NFL history. I mean, no, but... It's probably not the best, but it is probably actually in the top tier. Raiders have got the first pick in the draft with the worst record, and the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. With Pete Carroll. At that level, the only things above it are probably like, you know, the Herschel Walker trade and the Cowboys get all these picks and then win like three Super Bowls. Like that's probably higher. But this is like we, but again, morons, I can't think of any, thought it was a little risky to go and get Sam Donald for Geno Smith. But I think Mike McDonald and John Schneider need to get credit. This probably is one of those things that we'll talk about. If that is one of the best. And they hired Clint Kubiak. Hiring Clint Kubiak and getting Donald Geno is one of the better off seasons any team's probably ever had. is everything Seattle did this year, especially because I didn't think it was going to work. Everything worked. Everything worked. That's crazy. That's usually what needs to happen, unfortunately, is like everything's got to go right. Everything worked. You know? And they're like, oh, can Darnold not – we literally were like, oh, what if Darnold doesn't stop turning the ball over? And he literally didn't turn the ball over in the final four games. The Seahawks haven't lost since November 16th. So that's what the Eagles were like, too, is belt to ass from then on. So we are talking about Mike McDonald, who, head coach of this team, is quiet. He's the Sean McVay of defense. Now we can say it. I mean, he's literally 38 years old. He's the youngest coach in the NFL. He's the third youngest coach to win a Super Bowl, I believe, off the dome after John Gruden and Mike Tomlin. An incredible stat, also from my Sean Duggar, shout out to him, is that Mike McDonald is the first coach to serve as the primary defensive play caller for Super Bowl champion, which is fucking amazing. They went through and looked. Really? Well, the most head coaches didn't call plays for a long time. You had coordinators do it. That's a fucking wild. I did not know if you guys do it. He's the first. It's kind of the first defensive guy to call plays in the Super Bowl. I know, that felt impossible. That's per the athletic. The athletic researched that. Mike McDonald also basically had the best defense in the NFL two last three seasons because if you count three seasons ago, the Ravens were by far the best defense. He's the cutting-edge guy. Play hard, play fast. They just pantsed Kyle Shanahan where they just obliterated the Niners twice in a few weeks and then won in their stadium. And then they made Shanahan go on NBC and talk about how good the Seahawks were in San Francisco. That was real, like, fuck chair. Like, hey, Kyle Shanahan, sit in your stadium and watch this. You're sitting in his suit, uncomfortable, talking about how amazing Seattle is and how strong they are defensively. There was an interview from before the game where he was basically... And he was really good, actually. He was asked, like, how do you beat the Seahawks? He's like, you might be asking the wrong guy. Like, I couldn't score a touchdown on them the last two games. Brutal, brutal. Yeah, Mike McDonald, man, he's just really fun to watch coach. It's funny because I didn't think I would be able to love a coach as much as I loved Pete Carroll during the Pete Carroll era. He was so, I mean, he helped change the Seahawks franchise, the whole organization, everything he did. He's a real character. McDonald is like understated. He's very different. Very, very different. And I think I said this on the show before, but he's basically competence porn. He's just so fucking competent at everything. He's really good at coaching the defense in terms of getting them where they need to be. He gets so much pressure with four guys, not really blitzing. He is on it in terms of game management. I don't remember any massive mistakes from game management. Small ones, but for young, the flaw usually with these guys who call plays as head coaches is you lose attention to detail elsewhere. Usually special teams or game managers. Sean McVay didn't learn how to fucking manage a game until a year ago. We still do weird shit. But he got better this year. But calling timeouts and fourth downs, Sean McVay was pretty terrible at it until 14 months ago. Yeah, timeouts, all this stuff. special teams in the NFL. The attention to detail is insane. He and Schneider hired the offensive coordinator who's now one and done and going to be a head coach now. Obviously, that doesn't happen probably if the Seahawks don't get this far in the playoffs, but still. The thing I'll say is they were healthy, too. They were healthy. The final four teams were the healthiest teams in the NFL. And then Bo Nix got hurt after that game. But the final four teams were the healthiest of the whole group. You know what I mean? That was not a coincidence. I think he did a good job. Stuff that goes, that kind of flies under the radar, but he did a really good job coaching Sam Darnold through that really rough patch in the middle of the season when he was turning the ball over a ton. He's just so, again, it's just the competency that he has. And competence is, it sounds kind of like not a high praise. To me, that's the highest praise you can give someone. He's super competent. I trust him in almost any situation. I trusted him to get the team ready. It's a well-rounded person for a 38-year-old play call. I mean, it's crazy. This is also a guy, by the way, who could have gone and worked on Wall Street. You know, he was like a really – He thought about quitting the Georgia as an undergrad or as a graduate assistant and going to a consulting firm. So it's just a very smart individual, and I really trust him, and it's so cool to have him as the coach of the Seahawks because I think it's repeatable what he's done this year. So I'm super excited for the future, too, with him. I mean, like, look, I have almost no notes on this season. It's fucking crazy. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl. It's a cool story. I cannot. It still hasn't really sunk in. I know. The only team that really gave you fits was the Rams. I know. Dude, McVay is probably just feeling like shit right now because he knows he could have beat the Patriots. McVay and Shanahan are just on the phone like, what? McVay must be miserable because the Rams would have kicked the shit out of the Patriots, too. It was so close. I mean, and the Seahawks beat the Rams this year twice by the slimmest of marks. I mean, is that honestly absolutely slimmest of margins? Maybe one of the biggest sliding doors moments in recent history is Zach Charbonnet taking up the two-point conversion. Think about it. It's crazy. If Zach Charbonnet doesn't do the two-point conversion. Do the Rams then win the division? The Rams. Very likely. They're probably the one seed. And then everything goes through L.A. and the Rams instead of Seattle. Wow. That's how the NFL goes, man. It's crazy. The Rams probably win. It's kind of a fraudulent ring now that I think about it. That technicality is why they got home field? That's the right spin zone. And it's really like the Patriots, if you think about it, the Patriots kind of won this game, if you think about it, because they got there and like, you know, they're just there and like they were barely trying. And the Seahawks tried really hard. Do you want to know how many people are thanking me? Just fans of random ass teams thanking me. Can you imagine if the fucking Boston people got to have another ring when they weren't even trying? Do you think it was unfair that, look, the Patriots got to play their first two playoff games in really cold weather. This one was it was not cold enough for them. It was weird weather for them. They're used to playing in the snow or really cold. I don't know. It's not really fair. Well, speaking of which, we have to get to, you know, we're so back. We are so back as the Patriots were just schedule merchants the entire time. And now we can kind of acknowledge two things is true, which is the Patriots were incredibly well-coached and unusually disciplined over playing the below average roster they had. And also they only got here because their schedule was, like, perfectly aligned for them to make it, Which is cool because they still did it, and congrats to them on doing it, and also they absolutely played a really easy schedule, and they got their doors blown off because they weren't that good. Yeah, it's like I think of those March Madness teams like Belmont or Drake or something that go like 31-2. Drake. Drake. There you go, Drake May. It's cool. They won the games, but look, we all know who's supposed to be an NFL champion. That's the thing. Dude, Burn Buckmaster had this. I'm sorry, I don't have to pronounce your name, Burn. But, like, according to NextGenStats, Will Campbell surrendered 14 quarterbacks in the Super Bowl. And that was the most— Quarterback pressures. Sorry, you're right. That would be crazy. He surrendered 14 different quarterbacks. That would be crazy. It felt like it. Yeah. But 14 different quarterback pressures in the Super Bowl, and that was the most in any game all year. Yeah. Which is—but it felt like it because he was the weak link. And I will say, it's not about his T-Rex arms. I think it's about he had an MCL injury. And when you have T-Rex arms, this is all things—I'm just saying, you have less margin for error. Right. If you have a physical thing, if you're not that fast, you're not that big, you don't have that much reach, it's not that you can't play. It's that when you lose whatever athleticism around it, then it's a problem. And clearly, since he came back from injured reserve, he suddenly is not as athletic enough to make up for being T-Rexed. I think because this game went the way it did, it's almost easier for Patriots fans. Now they almost have to admit, yeah, look, the schedule was really easy, okay? Hey, look at our bright future. Yeah. Look how good the future is. They'll look back on this year like, man, remember when we overachieved and that plucking first-year team made the Super Bowl? How cool is that? Which is totally fine, and it's what they have to do. There's no other argument you can make. Right. And you skirted by Jared Stidham, and you got your shit kicked in by a fantastic defense. And it's like – And now you know Vrabel is the guy for like literally for 15 years. Like Vrabel is the man. Vrabel's – They're set up well for them. If I could be any team for the next five years, the Patriots are probably their top three. Yeah. When you have a quarterback like May. And to be clear, my takeaway from this at all is not that Drake May is bad. My takeaway is that Drake is 23 in the entire offense. They need more around him. He has to have deep shots downfield. He has to have 80 or he has to leave the league in completion percentage while also being the best deep accuracy player. And also when there's pressure from your rookie left tackle or rookie left guard, you need to escape every time. It's like everything was on him. Also, you're playing the best defense in a long time. The same way Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts against Bill Belichick, Drake May was seeing ghosts against Mike McDonald, who was the Sean McVay of defense. It's like, what are you going to do? Sometimes you're just a little outmatched, and he's young and he's inexperienced. He'll be totally fine. I will say, speaking of it's so over, we're so back. The MVP argument, it's so over, that Drake May. I know it's a regular season award still. It would have looked fucking weird if he won the MVP and then had this run. Matt Stafford against the Seahawks this year. Stafford is terrifying. 960 yards, eight touchdowns, no picks in three games against the Seahawks this year. He had over 303 touchdowns two weeks ago. It wasn't close. And again, I agree. I think Stafford deserved the MVP, and I waffled. I feel like at times I was bullied into it. But I do think it comes down to this. By who? I won't name names. I think it comes down to this, though. And I think Patriots fans are like, a lot of, well, I was going to do an impression, but Bill Simmons, Patriots fan who employs us, was kind of like, well, Stafford has McVay and Devontae Adams and Pukinikua, and if Drake May had that, everyone would be talking about it in the supporting cast, but I think it's, in a way, I don't know the perfect way to decide MVP, but if you think about, if you're like, hey, MVP should be whittled down to the top two or three candidates, whoever, it's close, and clearly it's 24 first place, so 23 is very close. But then, once you have those top two guys, you're like, well, you can watch all the tape, and you can look at all the stats, but once you have those two people, who would you pick to win a game tomorrow? And nobody would fucking pick Drake May. everybody, all 50 people would pick Stafford to win the game that next day. Isn't that the answer? Now look, there's probably career bias there because we've seen Matt Stafford do it, so I think that factors in a little bit, but you're right. If Matt Stafford is on the Patriots today, they have a better offensive performance. They do. And you could be like, oh, he's not as mobile, but it's like, but if you had to pick a player to win tomorrow, you'd pick Stafford. So I think it was the right, obviously this game makes it a lot more palatable. But yeah, I mean, that, again, I always think it's funny when people are mad that you're like, I think a quarterback's the second best player in the entire league this season. People are like, how dare you, sir? Like, it's just unbelievable. Yeah, Mike Vrabel's the MVP, coach of the year, and you're like, but I also want the most valuable. Second is unacceptable. Do you guys have any intrusive thoughts watching the Super Bowl? This is by no means a referendum about us watching the game together, because I had a great time. However I do really feel like watching the Super Bowl alone is the superior experience yeah which is so lame and like weird watch it i think super bowl parties suck and half the people are trying to watch the commercials half aren't half are trying to watch the game the others aren't and it's just a mess a lot of the people that are there don't watch a ton of football there's a lot of there's a lot of like catching up going on in the background it's just a mess a super bowl party needs two rooms with two tvs and you because here's the problem people are there for the game talk during the commercials and people who are there for the commercials talk during the game but then when everyone's in the same room no one's happy and so 100 you need two different rooms and two tvs but even then when it's like more game oriented it's like if you're there and your team's in it and other people are there you're like i'd rather nightmare like i can't so and craig can attest to this like before the game i was bouncing off the walls just anxiety nerve-wracking and heifetz keeps asking me to like do like social media stuff i'm like leave me the fuck alone i just want to like watch these i just want this game to start if you're looking at her instagram story being like why didn't they do that much content it's because i thought danny kelly might have killed me i had to like get up and walk away a couple times two years ago for the the whenever the second chiefs niner super bowl was i was gonna go to a super bowl party but i got sick that morning i didn't feel well so i stayed home i watched the super bowl alone on the couch with a glass of water and had a blast it's the best it's great every play i was like i missed nothing it's wonderful it's amazing funny that i spend almost the entire season i'm almost always watching games alone and i'm kind of with my own thoughts i can take notes you know we're texting and stuff like that but for the most part i'm yeah sort of secluded in my little dome of whatever and watching the game with a bunch of people it's just a totally different experience so stressful um i mean obviously create outcome and i'm very happy and it was actually quite fun but before the game i was like pretty and i said this to you guys i'm like kind of miserable to be around in those scenarios no no you're you're so fun leave me alone great watching it the last time we were all together watching a crucial seattle game was the mariners i know oh god yeah that was also yes so i thought you were fine i was it was nice that they kind of jumped out to a lead and it really felt like it was i could tell the energy was different because the Seahawks were favored, and it's also your job, so it's probably a little less pure, but like, you were favored and it's different. The Mariners thing was like, they're very much like not favorites to win, and also this has not been a thing for like 25 years or whatever, and none of my friends have seen this in forever, and like, the Seahawks, though, second Super Bowl in 50 years, or first, depending who you ask. My intrusive thought, yeah, I said it earlier, but I still feel it, wait, not really a must-win game for the Patriots. I think that's right. Where at the very least, it's probably the least must-win Super Bowl for any team ever. I didn't really have any... I wish I was prepped for that, but yeah. Maybe it's probably like the Packers when they won all of them at the start, but other than that, I don't know. I think Patriots fans, if you could measure how crushed a city was by a loss, this has to be the least crushed a fan base has ever been by losing a Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, everything lines up. It's like they played a juggernaut. They've literally already won six Super Bowls recently. They have a super young team. I don't want to speak for Pats fans. I feel like maybe it is crushing. Who knows? I mean, it sucks. It always sucks. It's probably crushing for the five-year-olds who have never seen a freaking Super Bowl. Think of the children. I wouldn't say I had any intrusive thoughts in this game other than, oh, God, it's happening again. A couple moments during the game, I think it was 19-7, and I was like, this doesn't feel great. when the Seahawks lost to the Patriots in 2014 it was the Patriots came back from a 10 point deficit in the fourth quarter which I think at that time was the highest score I didn't want to come back from in the fourth quarter. Obviously the next year after that was 28-3 thing. Yeah, but that in the fourth quarter was even pretty bad, wasn't it? I don't remember. But anyway at the time, I started having 28-9 in the fourth quarter that game, but maybe I'm wrong. I want to go through a few things. First of all, the announcer moments from this game. I got to say, I thought this whole game was kind of quiet. Muted. I have kind of no memory of Collinsworth or Tirico, really. There was no standout moments. No signature moments other than maybe the pick six? Yeah. It was late. It just felt like I actually think Collinsworth didn't speak a whole lot. There just wasn't a ton of moments for him to make his mark. I feel like they kept waiting for things to happen, but I agree. There was 15 punts, so I guess it's hard. No, it's true. Totally. I think the NBC broadcast of Tariq and Collinsworth is the best. I'll sort of like Amazon is the cool one. Yeah, I agree. They're the best at explaining the game within the game. And maybe they'd make the decision. They probably make the conscious decision for 120 million people. They're not going to explain stunts by like Demarcus Lawrence and people. And so I think they actually do dumb the game down a little, for lack of a term. Not that they dumb it down, but they decide to not educate as much. But even basic stuff like their replays, they were kind of like behind. I thought I have to say a horrible thing. it was the first game i ever watched where i thought collinsworth was a little old was it his dyed brown hair on top with the gray shortcut on the side it was what the fuck was that why it was like hairdo dyed his hair and then he was running late he was like i'm gonna miss the game yes we only he looked honestly like um the trailer for the i haven't seen that bride of frankenstein movie oh yeah but he kind of looks like that yeah why did he die it was extra short on the sides gray on the sides and then a real like deep mahogany brown on top and it just looks It's very odd. Have you ever, like, I'm not a hair expert. Have you ever seen anybody do what he did where he dyed 70% of his hair and then left the rest gray? It's comforting to know that at any level you could have a bad haircut still. You know? You ever just go to, like, a new barber? What did you say? Could I have a bad haircut if I was super rich? Do you shave your hair? Well, to be honest, you could grow your hair out, yes, and then have a bad hair day. All right. How long would it take for you to grow your hair out? You choose to remove the possibility of a bad hair day. I don't want, like, the ring. I'm not looking for that. I don't think I could pull off the Larry David. I kind of think the ring should come back. I think people jump to bald too quick. The ring? The cul-de-sac, whatever you want to call it. George Costanza? Yeah, the Costanza. I think with certain people, it can look okay. If it stays short, I actually don't think it looks that bad. No, I think... Let me get long and frizzy. No, I was about to say, the Larry David is, like, a little flowy. That's your worst take. I think the actual take is that... I think... I've had many worse than that, but thank you. I think the real take is that I think being bald is not as bad as it thinks. And I know that it's hypocrite. I feel like you can't say that. Well, I know that if I – It's like you guys are – you're saying it's not that bad if you're a Patriots fan. And also if it's – like being bald isn't that bad. How can you say it's not that bad to be bald? No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying – I'm not trying to make the guys be like, what the fuck. I understand the general outrage you guys have at me right now because I remember thinking, why do guys freak out about going gray? Like you actually can look good like that. And then the first time Jackie said, you have a gray hair, I said, what the fuck did you just say to me? Of course. And I was like freaking out. Yes. But let me tell you this. When I look at bald guys, I'm kind of like, they look legit. They look legit? What does that mean? Cooler than you think. I guess they don't care what I think. I don't know. Do you look wise? I feel like he's trying to give me a compliment, but I'm getting madder and madder at him. I'm like, I don't know. He's like mansplaining baldness to you. You actually don't have to worry about being bald. Yeah, hair splaining. Okay. Do you think George Costanza would have looked better bald in Seinfeld? That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Now. Now it's exactly what I'm trying to say. Instead of the ring. I think Rocker. Is that what I'm asking? Yes. I think George Costanza's hair in Seinfeld doesn't look bad on him. Can we have women who, can we have women to mail in and tell us. You think he should have gone bald? Yes. I think it makes you look about 10 years older. No, no. The difference is you need a decent beard game. And I don't know if Jason Alexander slash George Costanza has that. He would look like a fucking cue ball. I want to retract what I was saying and I made everyone mad. Careful. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to say. Bald's better than the ring. You'd have to throw in a fucking, all right? A fucking cue ball. You have strong facial hair. I have no idea what Costanza was capable of. I don't think it's that bad. I think Costanza, he would look better, like, on a date, but also he probably as a character wouldn't be so iconic, but that's kind of the point. Where did we get on this? I don't think we need to shame this look is all I'm saying. Anyway. Other announcer moments. This guy's fucking crushing it. I don't mind it. But he's crushing it. I can't throw stones. You know, the glass houses and all. I want to see you with a little bit of that. Maybe a little shorter. This should be his punishment for the ringer fantasy league last year. Craig, maybe I will grow it out for you just to see how it goes. Yeah, I don't think it needs to be that long. I really actually genuinely I kind of want to try the Larry David. The problem is it takes a long time to do that. If you're bald and listening to this or just shave or whatever. I feel like you really commit to it for a year. Please email us at ringerfantasyfootballgmail.com for either agreeing or just general hatred based on what you just heard. Please email us about your hair or lack thereof. Other announcer moments I have to mention. First of all, from the pregame. They had Kyle Shanahan on the pregame show, which I thought was shocking. One, I couldn't believe Kyle Shanahan decided to show up. I was both impressed with him. Do they get paid for showing up on stuff like this? I'm sure. But also, him going to the Niner Stadium. I doubt he showed up for free. Let me put it that way. Yeah, exactly. He's like, oh, yeah. But they literally lost two of the last three Seahawks games they played. The Seahawks beat them the last two of the last three games. And then he goes to his own stadium and sees their most hated rival win in the stadium. But Kyle Shannon was so good on the pregame because he wasn't talking jargon, but he got to the exact heart of the game. And he was just so eloquent. He was like, look, I tried for two years to beat the Seahawks team. And you cannot pass on them or get big plays if you don't run. And they're so hard to run against. But there is no way to get big plays on them unless you're able to run. and it's really hard. And if the Patriots can't establish the run today, they have no shot. And then they go to Jason Garrett. And Jason Garrett's like, look, if I'm these players, breathe in, breathe out. Breathe in. Totally. Breathe out. And I think Jason Garrett's getting way more money to do this than Kyle Shannon. Oh, no, 100%. There was a moment when Shanahan said something and then it went to Garrett and Garrett was just like, totally agree with what Kyle said. You nailed it. What's your favorite thing that Garrett said on a post-game show? I can't think of one thing. Or a halftime show. My favorite thing was... What about Dungy? My favorite thing Jason Garrett ever said on a post-game halftime show is when they reminded him... The fucking gems here left and right. No, it was when he reminded everyone he was fired by the New York Giants. That was my favorite thing he's ever said. I can't believe they hired him. My favorite memory of him is every time they cut to him at the halftime show, and he's just standing with a football waiting to take... I think they've got to establish the run. The other announcer thing was Chris Collinsworth said, you missed this, Craig, and I'm excited to tell you about this. Mike Tirico was saying that because you have to declare an onside kick, you'll never have a situation again like what Sean Payton did in the Super Bowl where they did a surprise onside kick. And then Chris Collinsworth says, I was actually at the concession stand when that happened. To which I was so confused because he was not announcing it, but he was there. But he's so VIP that you're like, I'm surprised he would be having to buy his own stuff. So people are just waiting in line for a hot dog? With everybody else. He's a man of the people. Or is he just... Lying, yeah. Well, not necessarily lying, but tweaking. Like, maybe he's at the buffet table. Or he was in the bathroom. You know what I mean? And he wasn't going to say to $120 million, like, I was peeing. He's stuffing his plate with whatever charcuterie they've presented to him. There's no way he buys those stuff. The Wagyu, the steak and whatnot. Yeah, lobster tail. He was definitely at the buffet table in his private booth. Okay. You guys, you know. Just caviar. Just housing caviar. Yeah, creme fraiche. Just keep naming nice foods. You already said tartare. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys like caviar? I can't eat it. Oh, right. I don't like it. I've had it before. I mean, I don't think it's worth the price. I don't know how rich I have to get until I'm like, oh, yes, yes, yes. But every time I eat caviar, I'm like, I can't believe this goes so much money. Little salty gushers. God, I don't know. Fucking A. I thought it was bad when I said to Seahawks, six or seven guys, you never knew who was going to come. I was like, oh, Bukkake defense. It's true. The Bukkake defense. Is that an expression? Can we call it the Bukkake defense? Maybe instead of the dark side, they're the Bukkake defense. Yeah, the Bukkake. The Bukkake boys, maybe. The Bukkake. Bukkake boys. We're going to come in your face. Six, seven guys. You never know who's going to come. Jesus Christ. Winners or losers from this game that are not in the game. I want to start with the referees, winner. The referees did a great job. We never, ever, ever say the refs did a great job. Yeah, they backed off. They let, there's never been a, we let them play more than this game, where the only calls were egregious false starts. Yeah. And Ken Walker holding, which the touchdown that got called back was a holding. I thought the refs did a phenomenal job. They were barely involved. I think first half, there was no penalties. Or maybe one. Even someone threw a punch that I, or Josh Jobe, I kind of thought was going to get flagged. And even then, I'm like, yeah, this is how the Super Bowl should be, which is, I barely remembered the refs. Let the boys play. Loser. I think it's easy to say the Niners are a big loser here because they literally just got rocked by the Niners and Shanahan had to sit there in the corner and watch Mike McDonald win in his stadium. So the Niners are easy, but I kind of think the Vikings have to be the biggest loser here because they basically fired. They can say whatever they want. They fired the general manager from Minnesota because they were so mad and in disbelief that Sam Darnold made the Super Bowl. And then Sam Darnold won the Super Bowl and Minnesota could have just kept him. And they didn't. And that was insane. and it was clearly, it seems, the GM's fault. And Kevin O'Connell kind of wanted to keep him. And the GM, at least that's where it's going to go down. And Questy, the GM, pushed out Kirk Cousins, and then he pushed out Darnold. And then now he got fired, and they're going to bring Kirk Cousins back probably. But the Vikings, brutal. The Vikings could literally be the Seahawks right now, which is kind of a bummer. They had the defense. They have Justin Duggan. Could have been me. There are so many similarities. Like they have the coaches. We mentioned the Rams and McVay and Stafford are huge losers because, I mean, very couple plays go differently. and the Rams win the Super Bowl. Stafford mini winner, though. Silver lining winner is Stafford a little bit. I mean, the Rams almost... The Rams were threatening to trade him, or at least being like, we don't want to trade you, but we don't want to pay you because you're old and we don't know if your back will make it, and then Stafford literally won the Super Bowl. Yeah. Or great move by the Rams because they made him so angry that he was healthy. True. So whatever happened. I think winner is NBC because it was almost everyone's going to turn it off and the Patriots scored. The only good plays was to make it interesting at the end. Yeah, I mean, maybe ultimately they're losers because the game wasn't great. I did see on Twitter during the game, a lot of people were kind of complaining, this is a stinker, it's boring. I have Dallas as a loser because they literally, they got rid of Demarcus Lawrence, and then he literally made fun of Micah Parsons on Twitter. And Micah Parsons dunked on him. Demarcus Lawrence was like, you can say whatever you want, but you'll never win a Super Bowl in Dallas, but I'm going to win a Super Bowl. And then he won a Super Bowl, and then Micah Parsons got traded by Dallas before he even played another game. And Torres is, yeah. Obligatory Jets, loser. Yep, Jets, God. Dude. God. Just when you think it can't get any worse. There's no bottom with the Jets. They gave up a Super Bowl winning quarterback. They picked the right guy. They picked the right guy. Leonard Williams was absolutely critical to the Seahawks. Dude, the Giants got Leonard Williams for a third round pick from the Jets like five years ago. The Giants traded him away for second, but they got the 40th pick. They got a good pick for Leonard Williams. There should be like a league-wide competition, kind of an implicit under-the-table deal to see how good they can make former Jets quarterbacks. That's like, where should Zach Wilson go next to succeed type thing? Right. That'd be great. Leonard Williams. Kevin O'Connell's like, all right, I'll win 12 games with Zach Wilson. The Seahawks gave up the 47th pick and a fifth rounder for Leonard Williams, but the Giants got Leonard Williams from the Jets for a third round pick. That was like 68th overall. What the hell? And it's insane. And then we don't even talk about him, but Sam Tartle, and the best defensive lineman arguably on the Seahawks and Sam Darnold came from the Jets. Also, the last loser is the streaker who apparently – is this true or was that a joke? Someone said that they briefly had – someone ran on the field. I get why they don't show it, but I wish they should. Yes. I wish they did. Kyle Williams apparently tackled him, the Patriots receiver. Is that true? He corralled him. Yeah, he didn't really tackle him. He kind of scared him into submission. He scared him into not falling over. Like a fainting joke. The guy literally started like, he's like, oh, God. He got footsteps and went down. There's a football player that's going to hit me. He saw a ghost. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I kind of respect that Kyle Williams is out there chasing him. They scored a touchdown on the next, like, two straight plays after that, they scored a touchdown. They had the two big plays. Impressive to get on the field in the Super Bowl as a streaker. Yeah, no. Well, we don't know he was naked. He could have just been, like, trying to do for AI and crypto and be like, oh, look at me. And then it's like, you know what's going to look at you. You're just getting hit by Kyle Williams. I will say, speaking of the touchdown, though. If they're not doing anything racist or problematic, show them. I know. I don't want to encourage it. Craig's like, negotiate with terrorists. That's really what he's saying. I mean, NBC, if you want the ratings. There you go. Cut to that guy. We didn't mention this. I know we're kind of off serious football now, but I actually thought this whole game was like a boxing match, and the first Drake May fumble was like the actual first knockdown. But I thought that – He's got – It was kind of like when you watch those old Floyd Mayweather fights, and you're watching. It's pretty boring. He's just never going to get hit in the face. and it was kind of the Seahawks, but there was body blows, body blows. But the Drake may fumble, but when he did the pick and the Seahawks finally got – JSN was out of the game and they had the ball deep in territory. That is when the Seahawks just went for the throat and they just went, Cooper Cup should have a touchdown. They're like, screw it, and they went back. And then that's when Barner scored. But we didn't mention that with Mike McDonald, but they knew exactly when to go for the throat, and that's kind of one – and I just respected it. After that Drake May pick, which was a really brutal interception, even Collinsworth was like, I got nothing for you there. I have no idea what happened. That was the terrible threat. He was seeing ghosts. He had no idea what he was looking at. He was just like, throw it deep. Fuck it. Someone's down there somewhere. It wasn't even near the guy he was going for. It was crazy. Okay. Halftime. Yeah. Bad Bunny? Oh, I was watching the Kid Rock one. How was Bad Bunny? Oh, yeah. Kid Rock. Yeah, sorry. Real America. The wholesome. You know what? Who? Oh, Tim Alberta posted. I'm so glad that we can have a wholesome alternative for the halftime show for someone family friendly and a great representative for people of faith like Kid Rock, who has songs like Cadillac Pussy. I thought the Bad Bunny show was fantastic. Yeah. I thought it was so fun and effortless. I thought it looked super cool. It was like this big house party. The camera work was very cool. There was a literal wedding that took place during the show. They got married. Two people actually got married. It was just like this cool house party. You were in the backyard hanging out. It just seemed like everybody was having a good time, very good vibes. Nothing felt forced. it just felt very um together in a very effortless effortless great way i thought it was super fun yeah he had uh lady gaga come on he had uh ricky martin sure was a guest which was a great surprise uh pedro pascal just hanging out in the party jessica alba back there alba looks great how old is she now she looks great sure yeah dude the alonzo morning meme where it's like oh it's like kind of like all the people are like oh i hate that he's not speaking english with man those women are hot and you know it's trump did tweet i can't understand a word this guy's saying i'm like well he's speaking spanish so that would check out if you don't speak spanish he said no one can understand no one can understand no one can understand a word this guy's saying no one has any idea i don't know why that's so fucking funny no one no one he's like nobody can understand this guy uh i will say that but you know what's funny about it though the obviously well the only things the entire time he said in English was basically God bless America and yet I feel like I got the message like loud and clear. It was for someone who actually I don't speak Spanish, I didn't hear anything he said. And they didn't subtitle it. Didn't subtitle it. I'm like, I know what he was saying. I think it was I thought it was awesome, the halftime show because all these halftime shows, it's like they're so big and fancy and like, you know, cool and all these things and Bad Bunny chose to depict like normal regular people living their lives and having a good time. Yeah. And it was like, like bodegas and markets and old men playing cards and young women doing their nails. And like, it was life as it's lived. And I think that, you know, obviously it's about real life and like, not obviously the end message of the, you know, love is stronger than hate, which I think when people take that as a shot at them, that kind of says something about them. Right. If you're like, love is stronger than hate and you're like, hey, what are you saying? Fuck you, I love hate. Yeah. But I think it was a pretty masterful thing, not just to take the side of love is stronger than hate. God bless America. God bless all these places. But also, I think when people and any group of people are demonized as criminals or, if we're being honest, like. Subhuman or any kind of dehumanization, I think that it is almost radical and extremely important to depict people in their everyday lives having a great time, just house parties and weddings. and frankly, kind of like Puerto Rican goodfellas, like here's a shot of me and all these people I know. And it was the community and it was people. And I thought that that was, I thought it was beautiful. They did a good job of making it feel, it was very necessary and very important, but it also didn't feel preachy. I thought it was really beautifully done across the board. The production design, all of that, him on top of the house, he falls into the house, everybody hanging out. Yeah, it just felt like you were in a backyard party. Ironically, it was kind of the like halftime show. It really felt like Garth Brooks. It's like it's friends in low places. You know what I mean? It was like these are, you know, it didn't feel like these are my famous friends. It's like these are my people. These are people I know growing up. And it was a community. And then, yeah, I thought it was awesome. I mean, there was also some very strong visuals in this. Obviously, he talked about he had the, you know, the power, the people dancing off on the power grids. He got up on one of the light poles. Obviously, that was, you know, allusion to the power grid in Puerto Rico after the hurricane that was completely decimated and wasn't fixed forever. Also, I thought it was interesting. He said, God bless America. And then he named every country in the Americas. Yeah. Like right away. And that was kind of like you said it during the thing. It was like this is as inclusive as you can get. That was like the overarching motif of the whole. It was extremely happy. Right. Yeah. And I like the way you said it where it honestly may be one of the hardest things to do right now is to try to preach togetherness or happiness or love and make a slight statement about not hatred but not be high horsey. Yeah. And I thought he threaded the needle. And also, great dancing, like fun, like a mix of like here's some like beautiful models dancing, but also here's like a real couple getting married, actually getting married. Yeah, he threaded the needle. I thought they actually got married in that. We got married in the Super Bowl halftime show. That was insane. Who had the viral post that was like the kid rock show? They're like, yes, the couple actually did get divorced. During the show. Everyone's wondering, it was actually a divorce. The other, yeah, it was beautiful. The commercials, I thought the commercials were overall bad. Maybe I missed them. I thought they weren't that good. Except for your brothers. Yeah, except for my brothers who wrote the Liquid IV commercial with the singing toilets. That is crazy. Your brother wrote a Super Bowl commercial. Yeah, very cool. They only showed the 32nd version. I want to watch the 60 second version. But yeah, shout out Scott for doing that. That was very cool. Seriously, that's awesome. Your brother, like what a cool accomplishment. It's one of those like, oh my God, that's so sick. What a great accomplishment. What is it? It's the one with the, you know, the toilets they're singing. You know, the one with the toilets. They want your pee to be good. Yeah. That was cool. But I do agree with you across the board. It felt like the celebrity cameos are becoming almost like just checking a box and the commercial doesn't have to be good. The whole point is just like the face of the brand and a spokesperson. person and then you can just get in and out that i i don't know the duncan donuts commercial where it was a fake sitcom there's like 40 people in it different celebrities is like honestly it's not dissimilar to what bill says about how he hates that a lot of these like network uh halftime shows inside the nba or not inside the nba but like all of these these shows there's just like way too many people jammed in them everybody has their like 30 seconds to get their point across not even that The Dunkin' Donuts thing is ridiculous. It was like five sitcoms blended into one. It was all the NBC ones. Sure. It was Friends, Aniston, Joey, forget his name. Seinfeld. Seinfeld, Ted Dance. Yeah. They did all that, but it's like nobody has any time to speak. You can barely catch a line or a joke, and before you know it, it's over. And you're like, I guess that was the get it, Jen Aniston. It's been through Tom Brady. It was a lot. And it also merged with Good Will Hunting. It was just a lot. It made no sense. No. None of them do. But even Dunkin' had a couple good ones. I forget it was a couple years ago with Affleck that was really good. But, like, the one that I thought was really weird and I thought embodied how I felt about all of them was there was a Ritz commercial that had Jon Hamm, Boe and Yang, and Scarlett Johansson. And I'm watching it, and I watched the whole thing. And you had mentioned it earlier. I was like, oh, I bet this will be good. They have a lot of people. They spent money on this. And I'm watching it. And then it just ends. And I was like, was that supposed to be funny? Like, I literally was like, was there a point that I was supposed to laugh? And I'm like, there's a lot of money on this. They feel more sellout-y than ever before. Yes. I also I don't know if anyone else feels this way but I've noticed like in the past few years the way these commercials are edited they're so fast and maybe it's like the tick tockification of content where everything needs to be quick and flashy but like there's no time to breathe I don't know if there's too many words they're trying to cram in but I feel like a good commercial used to be like one tight message or one tight joke or two tight punchlines and you could breathe in it you could deliver the punchline you could actually interpret the punchline and then the commercial would end and the brand would pop up and now it's like there's like eight people jammed into 30 seconds you barely even know who the ad was for by the end because it flashes so quickly because they were trying to jam in so much shit i feel like the editing the literal piece of these commercials are way faster than they used to be you know what's funny which might just be like i'm a boomer being like i couldn't keep up yeah but it does just feel like they're flying now you know it's funny a couple years ago everyone lost their minds because like the especially like in the world of advertising like this coinbase qr code one where they just bounced it around like kind of like our logo yeah at the big you know the beginning of episode like you bounce around the screen and they remember that but also everyone freaked out because like not only is that everyone's favorite ad but on top and the most memorable but it also got the only thing they want which is you to pick up your phone and go to their site so it's like the most memorable the the one people like the most but also actually got people to do it and what's so funny is if you pitch that again in the meetings they'd be like well you can't do that again it's been done and ironically i don't know probably should have just done that again it's funny that no one did but there were only a few i don't see you guys i have like three or four that i kind of liked but i just think before i like the best super bowl commercials to me are the commercials that i remember like i think the best super bowl commercial i can recall is the volkswagen star wars one with the little kid and the whole joke is that he loves star wars and he wants he's like got the darth ada mask on and the advertisement was that the car can be turned on with a key from the outside of the car and so he does like the force thing and the car turns on and He thinks he has superpowers, so he thinks he has the force. And it's one joke. Like, that's just one joke for 30 seconds. It builds up There the one joke I like Cram seven different things Yeah I like this was a good little mini story and now it just like fucking crazy crazy Can I do a quiz for you guys Because part of me wanted to do a test of like whether you remember which commercial was for which product. Because the way they judge it is, if you don't remember which company is for it, then it was failed. Sure. Like, it doesn't matter if it's bad. You just need to remember the brand. Yeah. So part of me is like, do you remember Sabrina Carpenter with all the chips and her boyfriend's chip? There you go. All right. It worked. I thought that one was kind of funny. I thought the best one, in terms of like, I'm going to remember this, is one, frankly, number one, that Tarantino, once upon a time in Hollywood's getting a sequel, and it's Brad Pitt and Cliff Booth, and that's going to be on Netflix. You looked at me like... Well, I knew about this. This has been announced for a while, but there was no trailer. I feel like they edited out stuff with little squiggles or whatever. I thought that was really fun. It looks great. I guess I'm not nervous. It's Tarantino and Fincher, but it's kind of rare. Like, usually a spinoff movie about a character is kind of a cheap move. That's often not what you do with a prestige movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. But it looks fucking great. As a normal person who doesn't know movies are coming out because they announce them, and I kind of just saw the commercial and was like, that looks sick. I was very excited about that. I hope it's in theaters for a little bit. It's coming out on Netflix, but I think they'll put it in some theaters. I hope it gets theaters. I thought my favorite commercial was the polar bears drinking Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola. Easily my favorite one. I missed that one. I was at the, yeah, I was getting concessions. It's a polar bear who's blindfolded, and he's doing a taste test, and he picks the Pepsi, takes off his blindfold, realizes he chooses Pepsi, and he's like distraught, he goes to therapy. It's like a whole thing. Again, a good concept, just kind of a simple, good concept, and I thought they nailed it. This is like when T-Mobile realized the Verizon guy was still around, and they were like, he should just work for us. Yeah, yeah. They were like, they don't have polar bears. They're like, they don't own polar bears. Yeah. That one was good. You know what was weird? There was a Svedka commercial towards the end-ish, and it featured robots partying and drinking Svedka. And at the end of the commercial, the robot actually drinks a glass of, like, whatever cocktail, and you can, like, see it go down its, like, robot throat. Oh, nice. And it, like, comes back, pours back out. Oh, my God, this looks horrible. This is like, oh, God. It's the first time I can ever remember it. I know. Oh, that's horrible. It looks like blood coming down his throat. it's um i probably shouldn't have chosen a red drink but maybe a vodka cranberry is the most popular but it's the first time i can remember seeing anybody actually drink alcohol in a commercial because i humans can't drink alcohol in commercials but i guess if it's a robot oh is that right oh my gosh because yeah everything's always like they bring it up to their mouths and they cheers and then it cuts you can't drink it there's like no humans can't humans can't robots which is what an unbelievable world we live in where they're like the now it's going to be like robots sitting at a bar having bud lights slamming them yeah just 30s they should do a sequel to the um kelsey last year a great commercial last year was kelsey and post malone sitting there wanting to open their bud lights and he's just like you know you can't drink a beer in a beer commercial oh sorry shane gillis shane gillis yeah and they're like you can't drink a beer in a beer commercial and they're like five four they should do a sequel to that where the robot's just fucking pounding you guys sitting in chairs very simple yeah i just i don't know What commercial almost made you cry? Any? Oh, yeah. I had one. I was worried you were going to notice. Do you guys want to guess? Is it the one that said... The Lay's? Yeah. I thought it was the anti-Semitic one. That was... Well, that's it. So you got... You got nervous there. No, no, no. The potato one with the farm where there's like... The father-daughter. Yeah, they plant it and he gives her the farm. Pulled on the old heartstrings a little, yeah. That was beautiful. It got real quiet in the... A lot of farmland commercials. In the theater when we were doing that one. A lot of AI talking about farmland, and they're like, think about anything other than data centers and water. It was a lot of AI gambling. AI helps farmers. That's the... AI gambling crypto and weight loss drugs. That's keeping this whole thing going. That is so true. What does it say about society? It's like, you guys use drugs to lose weight so you can eat more food, and then that way you can just use AI to help the farmers. And then if you're bored, gamble on literally anything. Yeah, that's the... Also sit there and watch the Olympics. Gamble in the Olympics. Right. On that note, Coinbase had the Backstreet Boys. T-Mobile and Coinbase. Yeah, they crushed it. I'm glad they got paid. Karaoke commercial. They deserve to get paid. I'm happy they're getting paid money. Yeah, they had a big tour. They were at the Sphere. There's kind of like a nostalgic comeback for a lot of those bands, I feel like, and the Backstreet Boys are fucking cashing in. Yeah. Deservingly so. The Poppy commercial with Charli XCX. Yeah. I just love Charli XCX. and I'm like, I'm the demo for Poppy and I also love Charlie X. I love that song and I thought it was just good. I do too. I saw her movie. You should see it. You'd like it. People keep saying her movie and I'm confused. Which one? Because I assume this meant Wuthering Heights where she did the music for Wuthering Heights and her album is Wuthering Heights and she has a separate movie coming out now? Yes, it's already out. It's called The Moment. I saw it at Sundance. It is a mockumentary about her follow-up to the Brat album. I would love to watch that. It's really funny. It's good. None of that means anything to me at all. Wait until we get to Clavicular. I can't wait until we talk about it. Can't wait. I don't know what that means. Any other commercials? Is that a collarbone injury? Kind of. You're closer than you think. We'll get there. Stick around for clavicular. Bosch, the Guy Fieri one. Guy Fieri. That was good. Is that actually what he looks like, or were they just making it up? I mean, kind of. What do you mean? He wore like a toupee. He shaved his beard or goatee, whatever you call it. Like a basic brown toupee. That was one of the more interesting things that happened in the first half, was seeing what Guy Fieri would look like without all the money. He was wearing a red leather button-up shirt. Yeah. Love that. I love Guy. He's kind of like Mike McDonald, where it's like, imagine if he had just been normal. Like, Mike McDonald almost went to a consulting firm, and then he'd be, like, watching the Super Bowl. It's like, Guy Fieri's like, dives. Seeing him, like, not. He's just a normal guy? Yeah. He would have just been, like, the most popular dad on the street and would have hosted lit barbecues on the 4th of July. Oh, God, what could have been? His son goes to state, so I'm a big guy for you. Nice. He's a big Aztec supporter. Nice. Okay. Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives, great show. Always loved it. Rolling out. Same. One of the all-time, like, I'm at my parents' house, and it's 11 p.m. What do we watch? They crush. It's so good. Man. We can't move on from the Super Bowl until we have to mention, we've been doing this Ringer 107 competition all year. America's favorite segment. America's favorite segment, Ringer 107. Panda Watch. this long national nightmare of ringer 107 is over and we fucking won we destroyed everybody i know you guys have probably to deal with some of this on fridays it's ringer 107 and we competed a little podcast we kicked the shit out of everyone who is in shield kapadia we closed strong went four and oh in the super bowl we were it was like the ceilx broncos super bowl where it was over immediately we literally did honestly it felt even better than i thought we were gonna do We're doing tricks on it, dude. Coin toss heads. Immediately 1-0. Patriots first drive punt. Boom. We literally clinched it like five minutes into the game, and we're just sitting. Like, the game is over. Went 4-0. You know, we finished 58-49, which is not winning any awards, but we hit 54% of our bets. We're not trying. It does win, ringer 1. We spent so much less time on this than everyone else. I could barely decide. We literally flipped all our picks one week. Yeah. Right. Went 3-2. We decided on the picks and we submitted the opposite of everything we decided. Flip, flip. We literally won on a fucking coin toss. We literally did heads. And it was even more insulting and fun to beat them that way than I thought. Love that. A couple other props that we hit. Charlie Puth crushed that. Oh, the under. He went way under. I got to say, once again, in line with the tone of the broadcast, Charlie Puth was kind of a more somber, quieter national anthem. I got to tell you, when you have less famous people do it, you kind of assume they're better. Like, I remember when John Legend would start doing things before he was, like, really famous. And you hear John Legend, you're like, oh, he's, like, unbelievably talented. And Charlie Puth went, I'm like, okay, he's good. Yeah. I kind of wish he was someone else. I kind of wish Alicia Keys did this instead. Yeah, like, he sounded good. It was almost, like, quiet, literally, like, in volume. I don't know. He was wearing a leather jacket. You really hate these leather clothes. No, I didn't. No, he wasn't dressed like. It's not what I expected. No, you're right. He was not dressed like he was doing an athlete. He was wearing blue jeans and loafers, which is, you know. It looks like he was going to go to church or something. I think he's underdressed for church. No, I think he was underdressed for church. Supervolley's big of the anthem. Well, that is some people's church. I thought, he was not dressed for all churches. We missed on Gatorade. It was yellow. And they spoiled it. I know, like 12 minutes before. You were so mad about this. There's a close-up of a guy stirring the Gatorade like a cauldron. Why? Who needs that? Because they needed people to stay. then people are going to turn the game off. You don't think people know that the Gatorade happens at the end? I'm not sure I've ever seen them spoil it like that. Why would they do that? I kind of love that they spoiled it. Why would they do that? Pearl clutching the Gatorade. The NFL knows how much people gamble on this shit, and they just spoil it. No one actually gambles on it. They just tweeted it out. What do you mean nobody gambles on the Gatorade? Did you actually, on the Gatorade? Of course I did. Oh. What do you mean? You're not mad they showed it. You're mad that it was yellow. If they had showed the right color, you'd be thrilled. No. No way. You can't spoil it. What else did you win? Well, I don't need to get into what I won. I'll tell you what I won. I bet the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl 70-1 placed since September 1st. That shit's on me. Oh, hell yeah. I bet the Seahawks minus 12.5, and I hit. That's obviously way better. Shout out, Michael Donald. Thank you. The other thing we missed, we talked about this. We assumed that whoever won MVP was going to be probably a quarterback, and it was Ken Walker who thanked God first. I bet on teammates, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or coach. God. But, you know, he went straight for the big man. I saw on Instagram the other day that was just like someone being like, it was just the captures of God every time he watches a sports game at the end. And someone's just like, first and foremost, I want to thank God. And he was like, you're welcome. Yeah, ringer 107. That was, wasn't it thrilling to win the first year we're ever going to do that without actual prize at the end? We're not going to get to go to Vegas or anything? Yeah, like next year we're going to completely revamp this competition. there will be a legit prize and we'll get destroyed. I can't believe we don't get it. How are they going to rig it so we can't win again? They won't invite us. We should go to Vegas at expense, and I can't believe we don't get to do that. I was thrown out there. I know. Backstreet Boys in the Sphere or something. Okay. Anything else on this game? There's a lot. And also, just so people know, we're still going with the rest. We're still doing the whole lot. We are still doing two episodes. Three episodes this week. We're still doing two episodes a week through the draft. We're covering the draft. Free agency trade. We're still doing... I mean, Kyler Murray and Tua. I know what you're saying. I know. I keep saying the same shit. No, that's not what it is. I was laughing at our next segment. Oh, yeah, yeah. So Kyler and Tua might get traded. Like, there's so much still to talk about. Can't breathe. All these things. So please stick with us. Honestly, the show probably gets better in the offseason. So there's a ton to talk about. Going to be at the Combat in Indianapolis in a couple weeks. We have some fun stuff planned for that. So follow us on Instagram. Follow us everywhere on social media. Keep following. Hit follow on this show. I'm proud of you. Good job. So with that said, congrats. We do have to get to some other non-superlues. Well, now we talk about clavicular. Yeah, we got to talk about it. If your friend group isn't talking about clavicular, then you need a new friend group. Is this like a drug? No, it's a human man. Oh, it's a person. Yeah, there's an influencer named clavicular. Oh, I don't like this already. You haven't seen any of the news about him today? No. No? I don't think so. Well, how do I describe the particular to you? I can't wait to tell you in person. He is an influencer who, his whole thing is look-smaxxing. Okay. And bone-smashing. What's bone, what's that? Is that sex? Bone-smashing is when you literally hit your bones with blunt objects to try and break them and then have them grow back or recover thicker and stronger so that you have a more pronounced jawline. It's like DIY plastic surgery. You literally hit your jaw with a hammer. Like bone spurs. Yeah, to build up your jaw so that you have a stronger jawline. Teenagers breaking their jaws to look like Tom Brady. So that's clavicular. He's 20 years old. 20? Yeah. Okay. How's his jawline? Is it good? Yeah, it's great. It is pretty good. But he was frame-mogged by an ASU frat guy. Frat leader. He got frame-mogged by an ASU frat leader. Frame-mogged? He got frame-mogged. Frame-mogged. What's frame-mogged? Well... I know what mogged is. Right. What's frame-mogged for the... His frame was mogged by another man's frame. His frame was better? The other man's frame. That's what people say. The ASU frat leader's frame was better than clavicular's. He was taller with broader shoulders. Pretty much. Oh, yeah. Clavicular is... More of like a V. He also bone smashes his clavicle to make... Because he wants the... In a stronger, wider base. Kind of wider frame. So it actually grows out? I'm not sure how that part works. I don't know how he goes wide by smashing his bones, but he does. there was a tweet today because he was in the news today he was in the news today because he was kind of getting mauled can I google clavicular I want to read you a tweet about him today he was kind of in the news and I want you to do your best to tell me what you think this means today clavicular was mid-jester gooning when a group of foids came and spiked his cortisol levels Is ignoring the foids while munting and mogging moids more useful than SMD shad fishing in the club? Oh, my God. This is case mog Zusha. Yes. I was sent this from a few people who are in their 40s and 50s, and I was like, buddy, this is above my pay grade. I have no idea what the fuck this is. And there was actually a tweet that broke this down. Okay. Sentence by sentence. I can read it. It's kind of long. I want to try and do it first. I'm going to try and guess. We need to parse it, yeah. Clavicular, you know him, was mid-Jester Gooning. Okay. Jester Gooning. Yeah. What's harder, you analyzing the trades or this? I know what Gooning is. Right. What the fuck is Jester? What's Gooning for the class? You're Gooning for the class. Gooning is just jacking off for a long time. It's not really. There's no off. You're just kind of jacking. Sorry. You can jack off without completing. Right. And that's the idea behind gooning, right? Like getting close to. For how long are we talking? Like hours and hours? Well, depending. How about clavicular? How long can he do it? I'm not aware. I'm not sure. I haven't seen him do it. Probably a really long time ago. Okay, so what the fuck is jester gooning? So it's a portmanteau of jester maxing and gooning. Jester maxing. So he's funny? Yeah. Yeah, so jester maxing is acting like a clown or a fool to get attention or cope with social rejection. And then gooning, you know, it obviously means what you just said literally, but there's also kind of like a – in this context, it means staring blankly or engaging in obsessive low IQ behavior. So he wasn't actually gooning. He's a dumb, funny live streamer. Yeah. Got it. So he was being like silly and dumb and low IQ on camera. For a very long time. Yeah, in a way to kind of – Can you imagine doing that? Yeah. What's the difference between jester maxing and jester gooning? Oh, that's a great Being as dumb as possible Jester Maxing is not low IQ Jester Maxing is complimentary Jester Maxing is like being a clown Okay We're kind of clown So anyway, he was doing it when a group of Foids came and spiked his cortisol levels God damn it Contextually It sounds like Foids are annoying Dudes And spiked his cortisol was annoyed him or got on his nerves. Spiking your cortisol means to stress somebody out. Foids are female incels. Oh. Foids? It's short for femoids, which is female humanoids. Foids. And then there are moids as well, which is the male side of things. So what's the difference between foids and incels? He was jester gooning and some female incels came over and stressed him out. And spiked his cortisol levels. And then the question is, is ignoring the foids while munting and mogging moids more useful than SMV chadfishing in the club? Jesus Christ. Okay. So you're ignoring the foids. We get that. Sorry again. Munting and mogging. Munting is the same as mewing. Oh. Let me make sure I get this right. Yeah. Hold on. What's mewing again? It's like when you grind your teeth. is like that grind your teeth when you like put your tongue to the roof of your mouth to kind of accentuate your jaw so it's kind of like if you're not ready to bone smash you mew yeah it's um it's it's an ugly it's an extreme or ugly form of mewing it implies focusing intensely on one's face and aesthetics so you're like i guess that's munching feeling i like maybe zoolander was munting so munting is when you when you too much smoldering or like bad mewing yeah okay sorry what was what was so the question is is ignoring the foids you're you're up to speed there while While munting and mogging moids. Male incels? Yes. Male human moids. Voids and moids. So is ignoring the foids while munting and mogging moids more useful than SMV chadfishing in the club? Useful? Yeah. Is it more useful? So useful tripped me up as much as anything. So mogging the moids can be more useful than SMV? than SMV, which stands for sexual market value. Kind of like DVOA. Yeah, the DVOA of looks. Yeah. It's to rank how valuable you are to the opposite sex. Okay. So it's more valuable than SMV... Than SMV Chadfishing. Chadfishing? That's right. What's a Chad? I forget. A Chad is just kind of like the archetypal male. Right, right, right. It's a Chad. Okay. so Chad fishing like catfishing another portmanteau it's like creating a fake dating profile using photos of male models to see how women react to waste or waste their time whoa in the club people are on their phone Chad fishing what? you're in the club on their phone with your catfishing final translation is it better to ignore women and focus on making other men look inferior or is it better to go to a club and try to trick people into thinking you have a high sexual value. Yeah, that's, I mean, that is the eternal question. I don't really understand how ignoring women to make other men look inferior by, by being a clown. I don't know why that makes other men look inferior. I don't understand how jester maxing makes other chads look inferior. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, you know what I mean? But the gesture going with the moids, I do think that there's a moid-foid dynamic. Yeah. Like the foid-moid piece I think is important here because the chat fishing in the club, that concerns me. Do you think your SMV is higher than it's ever been after this win today? Apex mount for my SMV. This is my apex mount for SMV. Your sexual market value? Yeah. Yeah. I would say so. Yeah. Easily. Yeah. so that's so i don't know what i still don't really understand what the question is is it better to be ignore is it better to be a clown i i still don't really understand is it better to make other is it better to make other focus on on putting other men down or trying to improve your own self-image to women yeah put should you put other men down or lie to to bring yourself up yeah the second one lie to bring yourself up i think That's more, yeah. Chadfish? That's the old school way. Yeah. So anyway, that's what the kids are talking about. Oh, my Lord. I would like to know how many real human men know what the fuck that sentence means at any age. Email us. I would like the college kids who listen to email us. I want the youngest person who listens. If you're in your 20s or maybe if you're listening in your teens and you know what this means, email us. I assume most of the stuff's a joke, but I would like anyone you know, especially if you're in college, please email us at ringerfantasyfootball.gmail.com tell me if anyone you know actually did the bone smashing it's one of those that I don't know I feel like it was a joke I feel like people in their 20s made it a joke but then teenagers didn't know it was a joke and then some kids actually did it bone smashing they're actually breaking their bones I feel like some people did it as a joke but now some kids do micro fractures to heal with their young bones to build up the strength in your jawline So things are going well for that generation, I would say. So is it fair to say that Mike McDonald was kind of gesture-maxing the foids and the moits? Not the foids, it's the moits. Or was he chadfishing? What's the most troubling part of that hole? Probably the bone smashing. Bone smashing is really bad. I don't think clavicular. He got mogged by the ASU frat leader. I've got to look up clavicular now. It's a good name. it's a good name unfortunately he kind of crushed the name it's a streamer, it could be a post-apocalyptic tribal leader, it could kind of be anything check him out look, he's shredded what can I say not as shredded as that ASU kid ASU kid really framed off I'm officially worried for kids like American Psycho vibes oh yep like the people that think he's the hero oh my god, we should do this for old school movies Patrick Bateman's business card got frame-mogged by the other Moids at the table. You probably could write the American Psycho version of this for Gen Z. Frame-mogged. It's just like his monologue, but it's just like, oh my God, his card's frame-mogged. Frame-mogged. It's so good. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Please stick with us. We're literally not stopping the offseason, so keep listening to two episodes a week. thank you everyone who makes this show so thank you to Kai and Carlos who've been like we couldn't be here without them and thank you to like Cam and Abu, Austin and like everyone who makes this show now and like way more people do now and it's just awesome so thank you so much for everyone for the whole season yeah you guys are the best we really appreciate you thank you to the Seattle Seahawks for giving Danny Kelly a much needed win also I don't know if we could have really been around like the flip side between DK being sad and all the Patriots fans and Bill being really happy versus DK being happy is like very important to us personally. It was kind of the perfect season for all of our teams for this show. I know. Content won. Content won. Well, you're kind of cooking out here. Winning 107. The Giants won the beginning of the season, I think, with Dari Scadaboo. That was this season. Yeah. And then we closed the year. The Steelers were kind of super fun all over the place. Rogers then sneaking into the playoffs and then the Seahawks, obviously. it kind of worked out. Yeah, I know it did. Things do have a way of working out. They do have a way of working out. Alright. And of course, thank you Lorne! Lorne! Thank you Nirvana. What the? Nirvana? I guess Seattle. He can do whatever he wants. Bad Bunny! I already thanked him. You're not thankful for him? I mean, thank you Bad Bunny as well. And Lady Gaga. And Lady Gaga. By the way, the one thing I forgot to ask, we talked about this during the game, tell me about your thoughts on how Mr. Beast talks. Oh, yeah. He had the commercial. Yeah. There is now like a YouTube accent. It's a YouTube... Wow. I don't know what the word is. Yes, Cadence. Exactly. Yes. I've noticed this. Calvin watches some YouTube stuff. I'm pretty strict about what he watches on there, but he loves fish. He's really into fish. He wants to get some fish, so we're getting fish for him. But he watches these shows where guys catch fish and talk about fish. And the Cadence on YouTube, I noticed this on a lot of different channels. It's like so I went and got the thing and then I had to spend $1,000 on this fish and then I put him in his cage and then I had to get him out and then oh my god guys he bit me and then I had to spend $7,000 on this other fish and then I put him in his thing and then I had to grab him it's like waves it's almost a beat it's like Snoop Dogg making fun of new rappers have you ever seen that video? no well it's kind of like that alright And then I, and then I got, guys, then I went to the store and then they didn't have the fish that I want so I had to get a different fish and guys, guess what? It really has these poison pinchers and then I put it in its thing and then I had to get it. It's like the whole fucking show is like that exact cadence. Yeah. It's crazy. I buried a million dollars underground. Yes. We're going to see if my friends can find it in 24 hours. It's that. It's exactly that. God, it's insufferable. A YouTube accent. I know exactly what you're talking about. I sent all five of my best friends to Mars. We're going to see who can survive the longest. The winner gets one million dollars. I think it is exactly the lack of attention span. It's like you have to get the sentence out. You have to recapture. You have to go up and down the roller coaster in every sentence. I don't know. Wait, can I play the Steve Doug thing? Are we allowed to play it or no? Probably not. I don't know. I got to go to law school, I think. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I tried. Yeah. Email us at ringandfantasyfootballgmail.com. Had to go to law school. Had to go to law school. And then I got in. It was really hard. My friends met me $10,000. I couldn't graduate law school in one week. It's so spot on. It's crazy. And then, guys, guess what? Oh, my God, it was really hard. The teacher really didn't like me. How long can I live inside Harvard Law School? It's so true Maybe we should start talking like that In our show it might actually take off You're probably right Welcome to the Ringer Finishing Football Show Guys the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl Guess who won the game The camera's just like talking Flying around Just so many cuts Please email us at Ringer Finishing Football at GVL.com If you can explain what that YouTube accent is The cadence I want to know that. Wow. I think we know that next year's fantasy football punishment is going to be bone smashing. Joe House is going to have to smash his jaw with a hammer. Oh, my God. Goodbye, everyone. Thank you.