That's right, baby. Carton Show. Nothing else like it. Big Mac, Craig Carton. Great to have you here. 888-808-1019. I'll give you the Joe Judge stuff. Come up in a second. Your boy at Trinidad Chambliss has been denied an extra year of eligibility by the NCAA. So I guess you need to be a nine-year player at Montana to get extra eligibility. And they did not buy the laryngitis story that they actually had medical professionals on the stand today, I saw, talking about how he had sleep apnea from the laryngitis and was not able to actually perform at the highest level. And he deserves one more year of college football. So now he'll be a top three round probably pick. Poor bastard has to come to the NFL. I feel terrible for him. Life sucks, right? But there was a moment today, which we'll get to in a little bit, from Joe Judge, who I'd totally forgotten about. We've tried very hard to. Joe Judge was back at it. And you're going to love every bit of what Joe Judge had to say. That's coming up in just a little bit. Take some more calls on the Tisch stuff. And, of course, the big Nick Quinn last night by 49 points. That's what we call a send-a-message game, which is what they did. We can rebound after a bad loss. And, again, it's so great to me when we go to Philadelphia and take over their building. And for all the tough talk Philadelphians have of, you come to our town, you're going to kick your ass. You come to our town. Yo, we're tough guys in Philadelphia. We'll kick your ass. Yo, we'll put you on the jawn and kick your ass. Punch him. You know what? Yeah. We went down there, beat you guys by 49, took over your building, took your women home, ate your cheesesteaks, made it like it was New York South is what we did. Jose, Jose chants. Yeah. Love Alvarado. Unbelievable. Yeah, listen. They were like a good 7,000, 8,000 Knicks fans there last night. I mean, if he's going to hit eight threes a game, we're in good shape. Yeah, I'll even get up there in my tighty whities and go, Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose. I don't have tighty whities. I was going to say, you're a tighty whities guy. I'm not a tighty whities guy. No? My boys need to breathe. I agree. I'm a boxer guy. Yeah. Yeah, what are you? I'm a boxer brief guy. Yeah. So tighty against the thigh. Right, is that what that is? Yeah. I can rock those two. Yeah. You got to protect from the chafing. You got to go like Tommy John style. I did. I mean, I guess as kids, we all kind of do tighty whities. Please stop, Burbank. I did tighty whities for a long time. Every kid does. Yeah, I had a short run with the boxers and then went straight to boxer briefs. I'm a boxer brief guy, too. I've been in boxer briefs. But not tighty-whities. No, no, no, no. My father-in-law wears tighty-whities. Yeah. And it's a reminder why men shouldn't wear them. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I always, my dad wore them, too, and he used to buy, like, the Hanes, like, they would be colorful ones. I still have, like, memories. Oh, he was a Fruit of the Loom guy? Was it Fruit of the Loom? I guess. For sure. But, like, they would be, like, colorful. Like, I just remember him blow-drying his hair in the bathroom with, like, purple tighty-whities. And I was like, what a weird, weird guy. That's enough to make you question where you came from. Because the reality is that your dad was like your dad was proven. He's like pompadour, tighty-whities, dracar cologne. Hell yeah, he had dracar. And the other thing he used to do that you don't see much now is he had the Christ head as opposed to the cross. That was his chain, was the Christ head chain. You don't see those anymore, but that's him blow-drying his hair in purple tighty-whities. I could see it as if it were yesterday. See? Great memory. So it's funny. Have you ever replicated that? No. Where you went tighty-whities because your dad did? No. So it's funny. I wear a wife beater every day. And I have these fond memories of adults in my world growing up. And I just thought it was a great look. So I'm like, when I get old enough, I don't know what they call them. I assume they call them tighty-whities. It's an offensive term, I know. It's Marlon Brando. Are you aware of that? It's Streetcar Named Desire. I mean, obviously, you don't beat your wife just because you're wearing this shirt. We get it. We get it. I wasn't going to say anything, but then you're going to say, well, I know it's an offensive term. I mean, it's one of those weird things like it's an offensive term, but no one takes it with offense. No, absolutely. It's one of those. It's a Marlon Brando thing from Streetcar Named Desire. Stella! And he wore the shirt. Tank top. And was very abusive. Yes. That's where it comes from. Is that where they got the term from? That's my understanding. I feel like I've heard that, but maybe I didn't. I don't know. That is an interesting tidbit of history. That's where it came from. And it's funny because my kids mocked me for wearing it. And I wear one every day. Every day I wear one under my sweatshirt or shirt, whatever I got on. And now I noticed that two of my boys started wearing them. But they're wearing mine. I'm like, get your own wife, Beater. I'm just like, come on, man. I hear you. Come on, man. I know you're like six foot tall, but that wife beater's mine. You go get your own. I did not pick up any of my dad's. You did not? All the fandom, a lot of his interests, martinis, but no. Your dad was a martini guy? Yes, martini guy. There you go All right May he rest in peace Here JoJo in Oceanside JoJo how you doing today buddy I doing great Craig I love you guys I love your show I want to tell you I been a giant fan I'm 67. I remember in 1979 writing a letter to Brad Van Pelton, Harry Carson to please take out Scott Brunas so Phil Simms could play. I also missed weddings. I missed birthdays. I missed everything. just so I could see the giant game. I get butterflies on Sunday, but I will not be a fan of a team that is owned by a pedophile. I will start looking at the Jets more. Let me stop there for a second. There's a very important distinction here. While the stuff that Steve Tisch is accused of and that we've read is discussing and his involvement with Epstein is disgusting, I want to be very clear. There is not a single allegation today that we've seen that connects him to anything underage. I'm not defending what he may have done, but I think we have to be very careful talking about this, where we don't put him completely in the same boat as men that have been proven to have had a thing for underage girls. I want to be very clear about that, but I appreciate your sentiment, too. Right, and that's why, again, you're 100% right. There's not a thing in those emails. There's not a bit of evidence to suggest he had any dealings with underage girls. But the point is, he's associated with someone who is... That's what he is. That's what he's known for. Any association with him, a ton of fans are going to make the same leap that gentleman just made. That's fair. You're right. It's not fair. I'm just saying frog points because we have to be factual. No, no, I understand. But part of the problem is, people are going to make that association and that leap. that's what like there's not a bit of evidence to suggest it but when you have dealings with Jeffrey Epstein and he's calling you a like-minded friend that is going to be the leap that many fans make and rightfully so but for our purposes I want to make sure that we don't say something that's not true because now you know what's interesting about that and I meant to bring this up yesterday I was mad at myself driving home yesterday that I forgot to bring it up you know there's this weird thing that's happening in New England and it seems like it's celebrated by patriot fans and i find it icky much like i find as you do the emails with uh with steve tisch icky which is the nicest word i'm going to use about it right so robert craft whose wife sadly passed away and robert craft obviously goes to the you know the the handy place whatever whatever he's remarried uh lovely gal smart woman doctor but about 30 plus year as his junior okay now he's 80 she's 50 at least she's an adult woman she's uh successful in her own right can make adult decisions but still a 30 plus year age gap okay tom brady is 48 years old and he's now hooking up with dating whatever the case may be with a 24 year old and alex earl so that's a 24 year age gap i find that icky all right then uh on top of that of course you have Bill Belichick, who's 70-something years old, and he's shacking up with a 20-something-year-old. A near 50-year age gap. I find that icky. And then we learned yesterday, the thing I was going to bring to your attention, is that Danny Amendola, who's 40-something years old, I think 41, he's now dating a 21-year-old. A 20-year age difference. I find that icky. And it's weird because in New England, and you hear those loser fans that are still trying to figure out what happened in the Super Bowl, They think it's great. They think it's awesome. Like, what 45-year-old guy wouldn't want to sleep with a 20-year-old? And I find it icky. And yet, it's weird to me, and I'm sure it happens in other places too, but one franchise has four guys at minimum that have made the decision to have sex with girls who are 20, 30, and 50 years younger than them. it's like it's their playbook. And Patriot fans celebrate like, ah, you go get him, Danny. Danny Amendola, that's my guy, man. That's right. Wait for her to graduate high school and then jump right in. Ooh, Tom Brady. Ooh, look at you, Tom Brady, getting a girl that year old enough to be her father. You go, Tom Brady, do your thing. And I'm sitting there going like, I think it's disgusting. And I always play it off like, you don't have daughters. I have a 25-year-old daughter. And if my daughter ever came home and had a 45, 50, 60, 70-year-old man walking into my house as her date or boyfriend or guy that she's shagging, that guy's not walking home. And I'm not a tough guy at all. But I see those stories and I'm like, that's disgusting. Much like we reacted to the Epstein thing. Like Steve Tisch might not even have been with girls that are that much difference in age I don know how old these women were or not but I find it icky And in New England they celebrate it Sick freaks that they are They celebrating it Yeah. They're like, oh, that's the guy. Oh, look at him. Go get it done, Danny. Get it done. It is odd that all of them, Tish, especially, and Amendola we could throw in, but Tish, Belichick, and Brady. Yeah. Like the triumvirate. The dynasty builders. Yeah. The owner, the coach, the quarterback, the three pillars of an organization that built the dynasty, all of them have the same interesting proclivity for women. Bill Belichick could be the grandfather, by the way, of his girlfriend. Probably. That's not a joke. I don't know. And I'm not sure if that's like, you know, there are cults out there. There are people who want to follow Jim Jones into whatever, what was that, Africa, wherever it was, and drink the Kool-Aid and kill themselves. or those wackos with the Reeboks. I think it was Reeboks, the black Reeboks or Nikes, whatever it was, out in San Diego. Keds? No, no, it was either Nikes or Reeboks. Oh, okay. And they were like, the Martians are coming, and if we don't put on our black Reeboks, they won't know that we're with them. And they all committed mass suicide because they thought that was going to take them to some other destination. Some other plane. Or plane, yeah. What if I told you that the Patriots were a cult? Play that out. and Robert Kraft was merely Jim Jones. And the cult was, if you want to be one of us, you have to go out with a woman who's young enough to be your daughter, minimum. And people are like, deal with the devil. You mean I'll become a seven-time Super Bowl champion or six-time Super Bowl champion, and all I have to do is sleep with a high school senior? Hmm. I believe I'll sign up for that, Mr. Kraft. Like, they're a freaking coach. Sign on the dotted line. Yeah. Like, that's one franchise. The owner, the coach, the quarterback, and the wide receiver have all left the women they're with or had tragedies in their lives and decided the next best step was someone 20 to 50 years younger than them. Because that's what the coachmaster said I should do. If I want longevity and prosperity and riches beyond norm, I will sleep with a 20-year-old. And I'll do it again and again and again. For I want to be in the craft cult. That's sick stuff, man. That is sick. Since you put it that way, that is sick stuff. Yeah, you think Steve Tish just went to see who's on the Patriots roster or something? Maybe he wanted to start his own cult. Eli, listen. Listen to me, Eli. The road to Super Bowl glory is high school seniors. What are you talking about? No, thanks. I'll do every commercial under the sun instead. Exactly right. I'll try that. It's just sick, man. It's sick. That is. And in England, they're like, oh, yeah. Go get him, Tom Brady. Go get it. Spank that ass. Go get it. It's sick, man. The cold guy says, you know, forget the sun. It's forget the sun. They say, you know, dating on women. It's what's supposed to be done. Well, you think you'd have been more likely to drink the Kool-Aid or put on the Reeboks? I'd probably wear shoes. You probably would have done that. Yeah, but I mean, but that's not how they, they must have done something to commit mass suicide. Stepping into Reebok wouldn't have done it. No? Unless they poisoned the shoe or something. Yeah, I'm not sure what they, I assume it was. Why did I associate kids with one of these things? I don't know why you did. It makes no sense to me. It was called Heaven's Gate. The Heaven's Gate cult, this goes back to 1997, and following an anonymous tip, police entered a mansion in Rancho Santa Fe, which is an exclusive suburb of San Diego, California. They discovered 39 victims of mass suicide. 21 women, 18 men, all lying peaceably, in matching dark clothes as Nikes, not Reeboks. I apologize to Reebok. In Nike sneakers, no noticeable signs of blood or trauma. It was later revealed that the Heaven's Gate religious cult, whose leaders preached that suicide would allow them to leave their bodily containers and enter an alien spacecraft hidden behind the, what's it called, the Halley Bop Comet? Is that how you pronounce that? I don't know. Well, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. The Halley's Comet? Halley Bop. Halley Bop? Yeah. The cult was led by Marshall Applewhite A music professor Who after surviving a near death experience In 1972 Was recruited into the cult by one of his nurses Blah blah blah So there you go 39 people But I wonder if it says here What they did Applewhite advocated sexual abstinence So that a totally different cult than the Patriots cult Yeah there you go We learned a valuable lesson there That a much different cult What was the cult? Was it NXVIM or something like that? A couple of Hollywood actresses were in it. And it was like a sex cult. And just that one guy was like horny. And somehow he convinced all these women to sleep with him. And they had to get a tattoo of NexVM on their arm. and they were trying to recruit actresses and whatnot into the cult, but it was all for one guy's sexual gratification. You guys know what I'm talking about or no? Yeah, the girl from Smallville was in it. Yeah, yeah, what's her name? You can probably look it up, right? Yeah, you're probably looking it up right now. I am. Yeah, it's crazy. Is that all right? Yeah, I'm in the Knicks cult. I'll admit that. You're in the Knicks cult? I'm in the Knicks train. Yeah, we live the cult on the train. Yeah, that's where we do our best work. Choo-choo! That's what we do. So, Jimmy's an ice about the fan. Jimmy, how are you? What's going on? Carton T-Mac, how we doing? What's up? Nothing. No, so sorry to be the fourth caller about the Tish situation here. But, you know, I'm 28 years old, so I've been a Giants fan my whole life. Yeah. I was listening before, Carton, I know you were saying, like, Tish, you mentioned saying he's, you know, one of the faces of the franchise. Yeah. Obviously, he is. He's one of the owners. Yeah. I always felt like growing up, I never really heard much from Tish, at least for my generation of Giants fans. it was always Matt to the point where I like almost forgot about the decisions sometimes until situations like this, where they come out, you know, now you got hardball. And obviously you're right. Because the deal was that the matter family would be the face family, uh, of, uh, for giant fans and for the giant organization because of Wellington. Right. Exactly. So I feel like with that, you know, I'm not, listen, no one in my generation, John stands, you know, thinks what he did is good. and this connection is not great. Anybody connected with Jeffrey Epstein is not good. But to me, it's to the point where, like you said, nothing has come out at least to this point where it's saying it's underage or not, but it's just weird enough that you're connected with Epstein. But it's not enough to me. I don't know. I think they could get away with maybe kind of just like – But, Jimmy, I'll say this. I think your point is actually a really smart point, and I think you're the first person to make it where most Giants fans, even though the Tishers have been with the Giants for what, 30 years now, whatever it is I think most Giant fans like you Jimmy thanks for the call, have just always associated the Mara family more so than the Tish family. 100%. That's a very fair, smart comment to make. Absolutely. And yes, we do not know if it was underage stuff at all. If it was, it would be a much different conversation, I suppose. And one that I think feds would be much more involved with from a criminality standpoint but like Big Mac said, the association alone is devastating and then the email that we keep alluding to, you just can't get around it. Like, if your excuse is, yeah, I was kind of horny, I had a tough time meeting women, and this guy said he had ample access to gals who were not hookers or quote-unquote working women, they were all of age, and he set me up on a couple dates, okay, you can probably explain that one away at some level. We're probably going to like wink-wink-wada-doodle it, but I get that. But it's the email that you referenced earlier, which is problematic, which is? It's nice to make a friend of, you know. A like-minded friend. A like-minded friend, excuse me. Well, so when he says it's nice to meet someone who's like-minded, well, what are we supposed to think? Like-minded like we all like spicy salmon rolls at a sushi place? Like-minded like we like going to Montana and living on a ranch? Like-minded like we like dealing with women, lots of women, Every age of woman. Right? So, again, maybe they are like-minded. They like cowboy and western movies. I don't know. But that's not where my mind goes. No. And yours either or anybody else's. And not with Jeffrey Epstein. Correct. To be associated where Jeffrey Epstein believed you were like-minded, isn't it fair or unfair? Yep. It's a weird term to even say that. But, like, that's... People are going to make the leap that the caller prior made. Yeah. This is simple. I'm no longer actively involved with the New York Johns. It is. And it ends. It stops right there. The Giants can announce that. He can announce it. It's like a one-line press release. Steve Tisch is no longer involved in any day-to-day activities with the New York Giants, and Jonathan Tisch will be the only Tisch family member that's officially affiliated with New York Giants football. Something like that. Whatever it is. It's simple. All right, quick break. Coming up, the Joe Judge you didn't know existed. And I'm telling you, it's one of the greatest pieces of audio you are ever going to hear. Give us like, well, four minutes. I promise you four minutes right back at you with Joe Judge at his best and worst at the same time right after this. This segment was sponsored by, and we're coming to you live from the Town Fair Tire Studios, powered by Town Fair Tire. Nobody beats Town Fair Tire, nobody.
