1120: Collin wins at Pebble, AK triumphs in Adelaide, and Charley Hull moves to world No. 3
109 min
•Feb 16, 20262 months agoSummary
The No Laying Up team covers Colin Morikawa's victory at Pebble Beach Pro-Am, Anthony Kim's stunning comeback win at LIV Adelaide after 12 years away from competitive golf, and Charley Hull's rise to World No. 3. The hosts provide on-site analysis from Pebble Beach and discuss the broader implications of these results for professional golf.
Insights
- Anthony Kim's Adelaide victory represents a legitimate cultural moment for LIV Golf—the first genuinely compelling narrative the league has generated beyond divisive tour politics
- Professional golfers operate at a decisional speed and precision that casual observers underestimate; club selection, wind reading, and execution happen faster than broadcast coverage suggests
- Pebble Beach's resort-course design (65,000 annual rounds) inherently conflicts with championship-level setup requirements, creating soft conditions that reduce strategic complexity and penalization for misses
- Colin Morikawa's win doesn't signal major-championship-form return but rather a return to top-25 consistency; his short-game vulnerabilities and putting inconsistency remain structural concerns
- The gap between PGA Tour top-10 players and field-average competitors is dramatically larger than television coverage conveys; proximity viewing reveals the precision differential is massive
Trends
Equipment-driven ball speed increases across the field early in the season as temperatures warm and swing speeds increaseLIV Golf's investment in event quality (Adelaide specifically) and athlete rehabilitation narratives as differentiation strategy versus pure star-power acquisitionGrowing demand for broadcast innovation (miked caddies, drone angles, wind graphics) to reveal decision-making processes and increase viewer engagementResort courses hosting PGA Tour events face inherent setup conflicts between member playability and championship-level difficulty standardsEmotional expressiveness and narrative vulnerability becoming competitive advantages in golf viewership as players like Scotty Scheffler maintain stoic professionalismWomen's golf consolidation around top-3 players (Gino, Nelly, Charley) with limited depth creating scheduling challenges for international eventsSignature event model creating paradox where emerging players lack platforms to build public recognition despite competing at highest levelsPost-comeback athlete narratives (Kim, Hamilton-style) resonating across sports as legitimate cultural moments distinct from manufactured storylines
Topics
Pebble Beach Pro-Am course setup and championship playabilityAnthony Kim comeback narrative and LIV Golf legitimacyProfessional golf decision-making and caddie communicationColin Morikawa career trajectory and putting consistencyScotty Scheffler form and competitive positioningWomen's golf rankings and international event schedulingLIV Golf Adelaide event quality and audience engagementGolf broadcast innovation and viewer experienceResort course design versus championship standardsSignature event model impact on player developmentCharley Hull career milestone and debt payoffFedora 5 predictive model accuracy and methodologyBeluga's Big Board leaderboard prediction performanceDP World Tour sponsorship and governance changesGary Player Augusta National access dispute
Companies
Titleist
Presenting sponsor of the No Laying Up live show and Pebble Beach Pro-Am coverage
FootJoy
Golf shoe sponsor; discussed new Pro SL redesign with tour player input and Sahith Tagala testing
AT&T
Pebble Beach Pro-Am host and sponsor; provided tournament infrastructure and media support
DP World
CEO Sultan Ahmed bin Salayim resigned after Epstein files disclosure; potential implications for DP World Tour sponso...
LIV Golf
Hosted Adelaide event won by Anthony Kim; represents significant narrative win for the league
PGA Tour
Hosts Pebble Beach Pro-Am and Genesis Invitational; discussed signature event model impact on player development
Augusta National Golf Club
Subject of Gary Player dispute over grandson access; discussed membership and honorary starter policies
LPGA
Hosts Honda LPGA Thailand and other international events; discussed scheduling and player participation
People
Colin Morikawa
Won AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am; discussed as potential return to form despite structural putting/chipping concerns
Anthony Kim
Won LIV Adelaide after 12-year absence from competitive golf; comeback narrative discussed as legitimate cultural moment
Scotty Scheffler
Shot 63 with three eagles at Pebble; finished T4 after poor Thursday; discussed as dominant force despite inconsistency
Charley Hull
Won Aramco Saudi Ladies International; moved to World No. 3; paid off house with prize money
Jacob Bridgeman
Finished second at Pebble Beach; discussed as victim of signature event model limiting player recognition
John Rahm
Finished second at LIV Adelaide; lost five-shot lead to Anthony Kim in final round
Bryson DeChambeau
Finished third at LIV Adelaide; outplayed by Anthony Kim in final round
Russell Henley
Played in pro-am with hosts; discussed as example of tour-level precision and decision-making
Matt McNeely
Played in pro-am with hosts; appeared on podcast; discussed as example of tour-level excellence
Minwoo Lee
Finished T2 at Pebble Beach; discussed as crowd favorite and emerging talent
Sepp Straka
Finished one shot out of playoff at Pebble Beach; discussed as strong performer despite model prediction miss
Sam Burns
Finished T6 at Pebble Beach; discussed as elite player with closing concerns
Rory McIlroy
Shot 64 in final round at Pebble Beach; finished T5; discussed as strong performer
Akshay Patel
Played in pro-am; discussed as emerging talent with caddie Joe Griner; mentioned as potential future Masters contender
Gary Player
Disputed Augusta National's refusal to allow grandson access; discussed as first-world problem and governance issue
Gino Wijnaldum
World No. 1 women's golfer; defending Honda LPGA Thailand; discussed as headline player
Nelly Korda
World No. 2; not traveling for Asian swing; discussed as notable absence from international events
Allison Lee
Played Aramco Saudi Ladies with rental clubs after luggage delay; finished T25; returned to competition post-motherhood
Quotes
"I've literally tried all the Pro SL shoes since they came out, and these are definitely the best yet. They're going in play immediately."
Sahith Tagala•Sponsor segment
"I wasn't off. I know that you probably don't believe me, but like, I didn't do anything different. I didn't go practice. I didn't, nothing clicked. He's like, I just wasn't scoring."
Scotty Scheffler•Post-round interview
"The speed and confidence at which they make decisions with their caddy and hitting a shot with confidence and landing it within a two-yard buffer either side of the flag on an extremely consistent basis like blew my mind."
Solly Gernon•On-site analysis
"If this wind shifts more back into me back me off this shot."
Russell Henley•Pro-am observation
"I've been an ambassador for Augusta for all these years, and they won't let me have one round of golf in my life with my three grandsons."
Gary Player•Public statement
Full Transcript
Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show presented by Titleist. Solly here, joined by my guys. Most of us back home. He's back home. Mr. Neal Schuster. Hello, Neal. Greetings, Solly. Good to be here. I tried out some new tech tonight. I like the way the graphics package looks on the intro. Cody, good stuff. and calling his fresh off the golf course he spent the day out at pebble beach of was course there all week long as well mr dj pie house key hello pie man how are you i hey guys good to be with you uh yeah a great day walking around pebble watching some golf uh loving it man loving it can't wait to talk about it we of course have a ton to discuss tonight we're going to start out at pebble i promise all you new listeners out there promise you we've carved out plenty of time as well to talk about Anthony Kim's absolutely stunning remarkable unbelievable victory at live Adelaide we're gonna talk a little bit about our week on site as well in Monterey I'm getting word that TC may pop in as well maybe go down the leaderboard a little bit and I don't want to make any promises but there might also be a new Fedora 5 and I might have already received word that AK might be in the new Fedora 5 I cannot promise that again that is just it's a rumor that's a rumor going around town right now so stick with us more to come uh winners from around the world colin morikawa wins the at&t pel beach pro m as mentioned anthony kim wins live adelaide charlie hall wins the piff saudi ladies international listen now is it a it's a great time of year to look for gaps in your golf gear and start start stocking up for this season there's not many things better or more important than a new pair of golf shoes footjoy has a bunch of new options this year, including some fresh limited edition drops, and we'll be talking about them probably pretty much all throughout the spring. 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It's also why they should be the number one shoe for you. Check out the new pro SL and more at footjoy.com. Neil, I'm going to throw it to you first. What's the biggest story of the day out here from Pebble Beach? I mean, I don't think I can remember anyone getting iced that hard with the tournament on the line. That was a true theater today. Starting, I mean, we'll get to Scotty. That was electric and, you know, whiffs of, of tiger dominance. Didn't get it done, obviously coming back from, was it seven or eight back? I, I, I can't remember the, where he started, but that, that warmed, that kind of warmed me up. I watched like start to finish today, but the, the Bridgman situation, the blow buys in the ocean. And I mean, Mark, I would took the club, put it back three separate times, took a little walk over and just kind of made room for wild Dej. looking out at the Pacific. Uh, I, I was really impressed when he, uh, when he hit that four iron, um, and then, you know, refused to chip it. That was, that was, it was a great finish. It was just like kind of, you know, shout out Kyle Porter, like normal sports stuff. Like, yeah, we're just like, we don't know. He's going to go back and drop it by the bunker. So that was, that was a best finish of the year for me. I loved it. Yeah. I, uh, I'm with you, Neil. I, my, my hotel Wi-Fi might be a little spotty. So bear with me if I start to lag here, guys. But the whole scene this week, I remember standing on the eighth fairway a couple of times or really like down by the ninth green. I remember vividly watching Akshay putt yesterday and just barrels of waves are just breaking behind. I'm like, man, this is a crazy spot for a pro sporting event when you really get down and think about it. That's kind of how I felt when the Bridgman stuff started to to, to unravel a little bit on 18 to just like, wow, this is true normal sports stuff. And everybody's standing on the green. Like nobody really, I think a lot of people missed the shot that he hit over in the left. And then he just disappeared. His bag is kind of sitting up by the cliff and Jake Knapp and Hideki, I think were the other two guys playing with them are just standing by the green. And there were some very, very pissy spectators, volunteers. Just like, what are these two doing? What are they, what are they waiting for? You know, well, all bridgeman's just you know his life's flashing before his eyes down there the green oh my god i gotta go back to the spot i was just that i'm sure all he wants is just to get the hell out of there just like please let me get out of the way but there's so much money on the line points on the line etc god and then he gets to the green and his ball won't stay still my god yeah on top of all that he kicking his ball to stop it was it was electric stuff all of that to bury the lead probably on colin morcow going out and grabbing his first win and however long 60 some events uh The shot he hit in a 16 was awesome after laying way, way, way back off the tee. I appreciated Dottie calling out that that seemed like a little bit of a mishit off the tee, potentially, because he was way the hell back there. But yeah, man, did I hear? I was trying to hear when Balionis came out onto the green, maybe a little bit of incoming perspective for Colin as well? Is that what he said? He did announce that they are indeed expecting later this year. So, yeah, very early, early dose of perspective for Mr. Morikawa. So just he started the day at 17 under par, made three birdies and a bogey on the front nine, then birdied 11, 15, 16, and then made bogey on 17. Looked like he hit that ball in the ocean. He was lucky that ball. Trevor pointed out as well. He's lucky that ball got the bounce that it did and didn't go continue going left towards the ocean. They're made bogey there, but clutch clutch tee shot on 18. I mean, we saw Sam Burns lay up off that tee with just being two back of the clubhouse lead at the time because that wind was whipping that hard off the left. And just watching like the true shot, I guess being able to like definitively say again, like Colin Morikawa is one of the best shot makers and ball hitters out there in the world. It just hasn't hasn't felt that way for quite some time. The putting's been a struggle and his ball striking hasn't been as premium as it was at its absolute peak. but he put a new putter in play. He actually lost strokes on the on the week putting, but had a new putter in play that he borrowed from Kurt Kitayama and led the field in strokes gained approach. He said he was like the second best ever approach round on Saturday afternoon. He gave him almost six and a half shots just on Saturday. And he's gaining a ton, a good opportunity for him to gain shots off the tee on golf courses like this where it's not a bomber's paradise. But this is the kind of golf course that Morikawa should win on. I feel like the public in general has kind of just had an overall shift on Morikawa. I felt like people were, he came onto the scene, was pretty easy to be a fan of him. And he hasn't done himself a lot of favors, I think, media-wise over the last couple of years. But what was this, Dej, what was the sentiment like, feeling like out there among the crowd? Could you feel them pulling for anyone in particular? And how did that relate with Morikawa? It definitely, Scotty is the needle. I'm not breaking any news there. I know. I mean, everybody, you could feel it on the ground as soon as Scotty made a putt. I mean, you could feel exactly where he was on the golf course. And everybody's rooting for kind of a, Neil, you said it off the jump, but kind of a Tiger-esque statement. Oh, my God. Remember, that was the day Scotty shot 61 and grabbed the tournament and won. I think everybody's rooting for that. And then plus with the Eagle on 18, I think, you know, that was at the forefront of everybody's minds. A lot of Minwoo Lee fans out there. More than I would have thought. people minwoo especially uh cooking with the youths yeah i think a lot of people were were riding for minwoo lee and then colin i he was a couple groups back so i followed scotty for a lot of the day so i didn't get a ton ton of you know following him all day and seeing how crowds were reacting to him but when he got to 18 and you know he finishes it off everybody he's a known quantity everybody was excited it was funny i was coming coming back and uh i was coming back and kind of saw you know one of the i won't out there but one of the uh one of the people who was working the tournament you know we're kind of talking about colin he's like you know it's been a crazy year i was like yeah you know interesting like you know hopefully start of a little comeback he goes yeah you know he didn't really help himself this past year i was like yeah no i trust me man i i feel you on that and i think that it's kind of like phase three almost or chapter three of Colin's career, I feel like, where he came out, lit the world on fire, you know, kind of went through the darkness, the wilderness a little tiny, teeny bit over the last couple years, and now it's like chapter three, who knows? Does he re-ascend? Does he become one of those top three players in the world again? It's going to be interesting to find out. Deej, your analogy of John Legend, Colin being John Legend, it resonates with me to this day, where it's like, yeah, I don't know, you know, everybody's you know you know you're gonna see him on the grammys but i don't know if anyone's like calling out for you know an encore there right it's just it's uh but solly to your point leads the field and strokes gained approach and i think on 18 was a perfect example of like if he's just slightly off there he's chipping that ball and you could tell he did not want to chip it so i don't know you didn't uh i don't know what this strokes gained around the green is but he seems to have this issue of uh sneezing on chips you know just kind of like oh you know it's it's a thing uh copaloo had happened it looked like it happened at waste management and uh so if that ball's two three feet right i mean i don't know is are we getting that up and down like it was there was a lot of drama there and so at least um it was fun to see colin overcome you know after bogey in 17 you're kind of thinking like ambian iced i'm like oh my god man he's gonna go to a playoff there's No way he wins this playoff. Like, man, who's over there warming up for, like, a whole bag. I mean, you see the divots he was taking on 2T? I mean, it's unbelievable. I guess I had a different one, to your point. If it goes a couple feet into the rough, do I think he's getting that up and down? At Pebble, I do. It was a very easy spot, too. I mean, it was just right, chipping straight up the hill. Like, it was the perfect spot to leave it. I will say, Neil, I got a big kick out of his caddy. Is it Mark Urbanek, right? Mark, yeah. They were down on the ground doing like the full Camilo Vajegas. Like, let me look at this lie. Is there anything that we're not seeing here? We really don't want to chip this thing. Like, let's just make sure we're dotting all of our I's, crossing all of our T's. Okay, here's the putter. It was a little unbecoming to putt that one. You know what I mean? It's like, most pros would chip that, I think. But like, I totally, I feel you, brother. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's, I understand why you're not chipping it. It's so rare that I can actually do this, Neil. But for those listeners that maybe do not know, I actually played in the amateur portion of the pro-am this week. And I can literally attest that it is very easy around the greens of pebble. Like if there was, as soon as he hit that ball into that, where he hit it, I was like, oh, well this chipping or putting this tournament's over. Like he's getting that up and down. I mean, just a shot in like, so I think it was 19, 20 minutes. They said on the broadcast and he had laid back. He did hit three wood off that tee and Trevor called that out. He was like, I think he should hit driver and go win this thing, but he hit a great three wood. I think what two 23 in the whip, but so from Jake Knapp chips in and there was this like spot of sunshine. It was like, Whoa, the sun came out. And then, you know, all this stuff happens with Bridgman and all of a sudden like the flag and he can't even get his ball to stay. Like, I mean, shout out to Colin for getting it done. Like what a shot. All three of those guys hit. Well, I guess actually didn't, but Sepp Strzok had a beautiful shot in there too. The Bridgman stuff was funny too, because for the bulk of it, I mean, like you said, it took like 20 minutes, but for the bulk of it, the wind had died. So it almost was like if, if it had finished normally and normal pace, like I do think that shot that Colin had in the 18 would have been a little bit easier, but you know, it took forever. And then the wind started to pick back up. I was like, man, this is tough. That's a tough draw. We got a problem here, daddy. nance killed me with that one it's like are they gonna finish oh no but calling to stepping up and hitting that shot as fast as he did when it was his turn with it legitimately looked like no sweat for him like that was kind of like a this i don't want to you know had that one shot way too heavily in my brain of like is this guy back it was like dude that guy was extremely confident uh in in executing it felt very routine it did not feel like he hit a miracle shot in there and that was a very good golf shot i will say though i know yesterday he had like an all-time round uh hit all 18 greens and just balled out but today he felt a little shaky i think 14 15 he airmailed the green which a lot of guys are 13 and 15 it seemed like everybody was going over both those greens but it did he didn't seem as dialed today solly so when he made that bogey on 17 i was like ah this doesn't feel good for all for lbc i don't like this that's what I was going to say, we got to talk about 17. So that's the, that's the swing that's going to live in my brain is like, yo, we are not all the way back. Chapter three, uh, just started, just started a little more interesting here. You know, he got it across the line, but I'm like, Ooh, if you, if you ask me, you know, what are the shots from Colin that you're really, really going to remember today? I'm like that unbelievable iron shot into 16 where you got to like ride that wind. He, we know he hits a fade. We know that's going to be left to right. He's got to judge that perfectly to that back pin, not overspin it, all of that stuff. That was a cool pin back there on 16 but then just dr jekyll mr hyde on 17 one-handed finish yank left like that that was good theater and to your point so i know we're talking on slack i don't want to take your uh take your take but i mean that ball needs to be in the water man what are we doing on 17 like that if that ball rory should have hit his in the water like there were like three or four guys all these guys hate the kids you know can't make birdie on 17 it's unbelievable but So you're spot on. The great man, Sepp, likes the kids. You know, he's willing to throw birdies for students. He, Sepp Strzokka, I totally lost track of Sepp Strzokka, and please don't fault me for that. He birdies 14, birdies 16, birdies 17, eagles 18, to end up one shot out of the playoff. Sepp Strzokka lost track of Sepp as well. There will be a full Beluga breakdown of the big board. How do you feel like you did? Just gut checking before we get to that part. How do you feel like you did this year? uh better than year one and two i some some real bright spots guys some real good stuff at the bottom of the leaderboard uh some some definite shane lowry situations up top but we'll get there i don't want to spoil that there were 44 total birdies on 17 uh this week which is a lot of cash for the kids uh birdies for students of course provided by by at&t there but does that count yours that is a great question uh it does count mine i'm getting i'm getting word in my ear that it does count mine as well so scotty thing man is it's insane i i mean he was 25 holes into this tournament he was even par and he finished at 20 under par he uh played the par fives and seven under today he made three bogeys and shot 63 in the wind at pebble short misses just like missed a short birdie as well on four but i mean he didn't make a bunch of bombs today like despite the short misses he was number one in the field uh on in putting this uh on 151 feet of putts made amanda shouted that out at the end of the round so i'll let randy know even though he's on paternity leave i will i'll be sure to share that with him after this the uh the scotty thing was awesome i picked him up on five today just because it was you know it's the ultimate like what are you gonna not watch Scotty after he starts, you know, four under through three, like, what if, you know, I'm here, I better go check it out. He made a long par save on five and then the eagle he made on six. I mean, that was just like the best. I think that was three wood that he hit in there. Just an awesome never left the flag. Of course, he was making that putt. And then seven, he hits a little floaty one in there, makes a birdie there to get to 18 under, I think. And then when he made bogey at eight, I was like, ah, that's it's that's bridge too far. Like these others guys are bunched. And I mean, it was the perfect storm of who actually just gave one back. Bridgman just gave one back. And, you know, it was the hope was alive for a very, very, very long time until he started, you know, like I was saying earlier, I mean, he just started going at all the flags, trying to just make everything and kind of got caught with his hand in the cookie jar a little bit on 13. and then on 15, same thing, kind of right over the flagstick into nasty spots and couldn't get a couple of those up and down. So ended up a couple short. But I talked to him afterwards a little bit in the media area. Not a ton of media. So it was kind of just a very small scrum, me and him and Chupac. Scotty, Scotty. Yeah, kind of asking him like, hey, man, can you explain it? What's going on on Thursday? Basically, you've played so much good golf over the last four years. what does Thursday feel like to you? You know, when you're just totally seemingly like totally off. He's like, honestly, it's, it was weird because I, I wasn't off. Like, I know that you probably don't believe me, but like, I didn't do anything different. I didn't go practice. I didn't, nothing clicked. He's like, I just wasn't scoring. You're like, I don't know what to tell you. It's just pro golf, man. And some days you just wake up and you make everything. And some days you get the bounces and someday he's like, I don't know what to tell you. It just was like a weird freak storm so for anybody you know who who thought that was the end of the road for for scotty uh solid i know you were on that block uh personally but uh for anyone who thought that was the end of the road i don't know i think i think good golf is it's going to continue for the for the foreseeable future well you know the the thing is though he gets he was real pissed off on thursday too so that's the part that makes you think like it's not clicking or it's something with this swing which is would you know not to say that's the follow-up question i'd have i'd be like man you get really hot under the collar though like when it's like you say you you know didn't feel like you were off it's like well you were really pissed so that's interesting i think thursday at phoenix was a different story he talked about that a little bit too where he was like no that was off at phoenix and i went to the range and i i had to grind and figure something out to to get it back on the rails i think this week the frustration was like why is why am i not scoring better i'm not i'm doing all the things i'm doing exactly what i'm trying to do for the most part and so I can see that being almost more frustrating at times you know if your body's not feeling great or you're you know you know you've got the club face open or like whatever I can see that being like oh well I'll get it back eventually but what you're just like I'm fucking doing everything I'm supposed to do why am I not making birdies why am I 10 that I'm 10 behind you know the star boy after Thursday is like uh you know I can see that being frustrating back to more cow for a second then we'll talk about men with Lee here but one thing of note ball speed noticeably up I believe he touched 160 176 177 at some point today and I think his average I forget who who had this had the tweet Cody might have it here but had his ball speeds up like a mile and a half or two miles an hour on average so far just monitoring the situation I think we're going to say that about a lot of people over the course of the coming year Oh yeah, this is from Byron Lindique. Lindique, I hope I have that right. He said he averaged 171.5 last year. He's up to 172.7 this year so far. That's a mile and a half faster, almost. Tough math there, actually, Byron, sorry. But this is like the early part of the year before it gets too warm and guys can free up a little bit and swing the club a little bit faster. At least that's how I envision it. Yeah, the model maniac. I like that. I like that Twitter handle. Modern situation there. what what what are you guys gonna do what does this win do from from morikawa to project out the remainder of this year for him is it fair to declare him back what is back for morikawa neil you first like what what does this does this change your outlook for him for the remainder of the season well we've known that like the talent is there we felt that way at bay hill like he's got like you said he's a premier shot maker i don't have i mean i want to say the four iron after getting iced into 18 was like okay cool like he can do it but to dj's point like some squirrely stuff on 17 some squirrely stuff just down the stretch like at no point until he hit that shot did i think he had this tournament locked down so like i don't i don't know i don't want to be unfair like you know he's not my favorite player i don't want to like be a dick but i'm like i don't i don't feel great it's like oh and then like okay i'm gonna put this one it just kind of feels like were i i know that there's no that no that makes sense there's some kind of band-aid he wins somebody can have a a kind of not fluky win but a win that doesn't necessarily predict no no no i know that's not what you're saying that he's like a premier ball striker strokes gained approach that is your ticket on the pj tour it's always been that way but it doesn't if that's off if he's not number one in strokes gained then it's it's a concern right like you're the putty can be shaky the chipping who knows when he's going to sneeze next you know what i mean like it just doesn't feel like he's he's went out and was like you know the terminator or anything like that but it's a good quality win i said it on our live shows this week i do feel like pebble is a resume course like call put it on your resume you want it pebble beach i think that's a big deal like when you look back at your career like that's a really good win and he did it in the you know the conditions did roll in and the course played a lot harder down the stretch and he got it done so i i give him a ton of credit but i don't i don't know if i'm like oh he's unstoppable at augusta this year like that that doesn't make me feel like oh majors right on the we're on the doorstep of a major win i i don't feel that way he does have a lot to overcome to your point of not not hitting it far and not being a great putter is a lot to overcome and you have to hit it like near perfect with the Yeah, you've got to throw freaking darts, man. And all week until today, that was an easy course to throw darts on. Soft greens, no wind. Yeah, I was out on the bag for you. Russell Henley and Mav on Thursday made it look really easy. Really boring and really easy. And so, yeah, I don't feel good. If we get off schedule with his offensive scheme, I don't feel great about it. Dej? he yeah it's interesting i i'm in the same boat neil where i'm you know i'll hedge a little bit uh solid is gonna be one of your no sitting on the fence uh they have these little these little signs everywhere pebbles says no sitting on the fence like how we need to get that for the live show because that's how i feel occasionally uh i don't know where we go from here i don't know what it's going to lead to i'll say confidence usually begets confidence right he's been trying to get over the hump for a while he's knocking on the door for a while uh and so hopefully uh this this keeps him you know playing good because what i was going to say is that it is interesting when he you know when he's up there he's a name like i said kind of going back to the grandstands the calls you hear coming out like people know him people want to watch him and i think uh i think scotty needs some some foes uh that that make some of these sundays a little bit more interesting right i mean i think that uh he's a kind of guy that like if you see him and scotty going toe to toe i think you feel something neil even if he's like even or especially if he's not your favorite guy. I think he did a little, took some PR steps backwards last year. And I think there's a decent amount of people who are like, man, I don't want to see that guy win. And I think that makes Sundays more interesting. And I think there's a lot of people on the other side too. There are a lot of more Kyle fans too. And he's, he's got a great resume for someone his age. So I don't know. I'm, I'm again, that's, that's a big old fence sit for me. I don't, I guess, I guess we'll see, but I'm excited to see what happens. I guess, last thing I'll say, the only asterisk I would say is that, yes, Scotty didn't get off the bus on Thursday. They all barely made it out of the riptide with Aquaman. You know what I mean? It was like, whoa, like red flags are out. He almost swept that whole freaking leaderboard out to sea, and they decided to swim out sideways, and they got away from it. You know what? I mean, seriously, he just, I don't feel like Colin's like, one of the last like four groups today i don't think colin's winning uh that was the last thing scotty said in in scoring was like hey do you know why everybody keeps calling me aquaman i was like i don't know i gotta talk to you there's no way you said that i did not say that oh god you had me for a second brother every a lot of people are saying it a lot many people let me let me get that glove water world um i'm gonna go yeah my morikawa assessment is is not very different from what you guys are saying i'll say this though he's had one top 10 since the players last year and that was at the rocket classic like it's been it's been a pretty hard fall off like i think we're gonna see him around a whole heck of a lot more i don't necessarily think this is like return to major championship form morikawa i don't think he's fully out of the woods but i think he's going to be a top 25 machine again i think he's at least figured something out to return to that level of player where the floor is really really really high and when he putts decent he will be in the top 10 and top five um and may it may win another tournament as well this year but i it we may have gotten a little excited with him uh and scotty has changed the game of what a top level player looks like but i think i think we're going to turn the page and leave this this era behind of like being just a complete shell of himself but We got a lot still more to talk about I want to first just give a big shout out to everybody AT and the Pebble Beach Pro team for hosting us all week It like it one of the most fun weeks of the year They do an amazing job of setting us up for success and helping us arrange guests and setting it up, setting us up with great space to do our shows. We did two live shows this past week, Wednesday and Thursday from out on site. Shot a shot a video on site with Jordan Spieth. Got a ton of content on our YouTube channel. If you haven't checked that out already. And it's just a real true treat. So big thank you to them. Connectivity is truly the bridge to possibility, improving the way we move through our daily lives. AT&T creates connections to what people need to thrive in their everyday lives, connections to friends, family, work, commerce, education, health, entertainment, and more. For 150 years, connecting people has been AT&T's calling. To find out more, head to att.com. AT&T connecting changes everything. So I got a couple of questions for you. Please. Things I've been curious about. What was the best shot that you hit on Thursday at Pebble? best shot I hit Thursday at pebble. What do you think it was? I didn't, I hit a bunch of like just okay shots. That was not a very good pro-am partner. I was like, I did not play poorly. I just did not do much spectacular. And it was very hard. So I played off zero for this. And I'm, you asked for your opinion on this. The tees were pretty far back. Like I could have a conversation with Mav and Russ from the tees we were playing, and I'm not getting any pops on my pro. Like it was hard to contribute. Yeah, but you're also hitting it as far as Russell Henley. True, but still, I don't hit it as good as he does. It's awesome. I would say I have two for you. Go ahead, dude. He was behind the 18th green today just watching the pros finish, which first of all is always a great vibe when the pros duck back out under the tunnel just to watch the tournament end. I love that. but I was asking him, I was like, any, you know, any, any lasting takeaways you've been stewing about for Solly, you know, in his game that I need to bring up on the podcast. He's like, honestly, like he just played solid. I don't know what to, he's like, he's playing as a zero. He's got absolutely no chance of winning. Like the, you know, the format's just brutal for, for him, but he just played good. So yeah, no big takeaways there either. It was just solid golf. It looked really good all day, Solly. Like you pass the, the eye test of like, oh yeah, that guy's, that guy's got game. I would say two shots come to mind. Your approach on our first hole of the day on number 10, you had 173 back into the wind. You know, first hole can get a little nervy. You got the Pacific Ocean on your right. That's not like a super easy or an inviting green to hit. And I thought you just hit like a really good, thoughtful, elegant seven iron in there. And you had like 40 feet. But I was like, that's exactly what we need to do to start the day off. We don't have to chip. We don't have, we just, and you had a great lag putt right after that. I was like, oh, this is great. Just a comfy ass four. at the first hole the second one you took a drop a very very legal and very cool drop from a uh embedded ball off your tee shot on number six uh you drop that um everything above board and you hit an awesome recovery shot i think a six iron uh up into the middle of the fairway uh had like i think 47 yards in from there um now my second question for you is what But what was the most nervous you were out there? I honestly, I don't feel like I got nervous out there as Cody flashes a photo of me hooking it up. That was the tee shot on 13. Yeah. It was after 12, DJ's like, this is going too smoothly. Like, you know, you got to mess some stuff up. It was pretty boring. Of course. This might have been my best shot was over from like the, almost in the bunker on 10. Yeah. Hitting that up on the green on 13. But, you know, I rolled in a nice birdie on seven, which I didn't think we needed because Mav was in tight and he was birding every hole in sight at that point of the round. And then he ended up missing that shorty there. So that was my positive contribution I made there. But most nervous was probably we got to like 17. It was just kind of the first moment. I was like, ooh, there are a few more extra people around. Which was our eighth hole. So, yeah, like kind of, oh, main event here. Yeah, just a couple extra people there. And I ended up hitting a little scrapey seven iron up to the fringe there that Deed was harassing me about. I thought. Solly, what were your takeaways about the golf course? I mean, you rarely get to play the actual PGA Tour event the week of the PGA Tour event. Actually, the same time as the PGA Tour event. What did you learn about Pebble this week when you play it? It was a huge... I feel like I understand pro golf better, definitely. I mean, I've walked a ton of professional golf tournaments very up close. And it hits a different sense when you're actually playing the course right alongside them. And it's a different T like from the T on, obviously you're just playing the same exact golf course. And Neil, I don't know if you had this takeaway, but I was I was flustered by the calculations that would go into the shots and my inability to commit with confidence to clubs. I mean, I'm playing at a cooler temperature than I've been used to playing just a different atmosphere, a wind that plays heavier and up and down elevation on grass. I'm not that familiar with. And I would get in between clubs and really struggle to hit a hit a ball. Like, you know, if it's 163 and I was holding seven iron, it was like, I got to hit this easy. And then I would come up way short with it because it's just like, oh, seven iron is bound to go long of this one. And I know they're professional golfers and I know they do this for a living every single week. But the speed and confidence at which they make decisions, I know at times it can look very slow pro golf on TV and the time they take in the fairway to figure stuff out. the speed and precision they have of making the calculations with their caddy and hitting a shot with confidence and landing it within a two-yard buffer either side of the flag on an extremely consistent basis like blew my mind i've played with a lot of really good players but to watch mav and russell do that up close and personal and also their putting touch for mid-range shocker pro golfers are really good not a great takeaway but this like stuck with me of when matt when especially when russ got to like within 20 feet of a hole i'm like this this is probably going in and then it looked like they played an amazing round of golf and we walk off the course and it's like yeah those guys are just like a little little better than field average here today it's it's it's mind-bending you know to try to hit the shots right next to them in easy conditions like that pebble doesn't play much easier than that i found them to be hard conditions for me and uh they they just made that golf course look like a total cinch i mean mav shot 67 and felt like he struggled for like 60 of the day and uh it was it was an absolute treat to get to see that up close and personal and just like the the just honing missiles they send at pins it's insane yeah i'd say the uh the way they evaluate stuff around the greens too like the lot you know they read the lie as as russ would say deej like they you know all where they put it in their stance it it's it's like three it's 301 it's phd stuff where and they're doing that like you said solid they're not quick with the reading of putts no very deliberate with the putts but you they do with their caddy get get the number and the club very quickly. And then they kind of take their time behind the ball, practice, swing the whole routine. But the choice of what I'm going to do is actually decided pretty quickly. That's a good call out. Well, the margin on putts is extremely thin. And the amount of things you've got to consider when playing greens like that, there's so much memory that goes into them. Mav had a great tip of like, look to, you know, there's going to be a lot going on with like, you know, broad macro slopes and the micro slopes here. But like, look to the, look to the water to level your eyes and see like what the actual land is doing right in front of you. Cause you take a lap on a putt at pebble and you're like, this is downhill. You take a lap and you're like, Oh, actually this is uphill. I had no idea. And I, I only called in Mav for a few reads and I wish I'd have called him in for more cause I had no shot reading those greens. And he was just, he could look at something and process five different things so quickly and just like, tell me exactly where to aim. And he was spot on every time there was not one putt that was like, Oh, Mav totally misread that one. and didn't even sniff the hole. Maybe one spot. I had a few things written down for observations. Obviously, these guys are so good from 10 feet and in, like Parr, Birdie, they just expect to make those, and that's just fun to watch. I think that off the tee for mere mortals or for me, I feel like Pebble is actually more intriguing off the tee than it gets credit for. One and two, throw those away, but three is intriguing, like picking a line on three, picking a line on four, if you want to send it up there. I think six is really interesting. Like we, we were between clubs on six, Sally from, from the, you know, one tee up. It's like, I don't know if it's driver here. It's, you know, but it's a par five. So that's in your head. And then you've got eight because it's blind. You got to pick, you got to be very decisive. They require attention on targets because of blind shots on eight, nine and 10 are both like, I think, you know, stressful tee shots because of those runouts. You, the ball disappears down to the right. And you run out of room. And then 11 up the hill, that fairway is kind of weird. And then 14, 16, and 18. I think all of those are like, you better be decisive about, you know, off the tee. I don't think it's boring off the tee out there. And I think from the aerial cameras watching it on TV, I've always thought like, oh, yeah, these aren't, you know, like eight fairway looks really wide. But like from down in that gully on that tee, you're like, dude, I don't know. Is it that house or is it that $70 million house? Like you tell me. So I'm sure if you play it a few times, that's a little bit less engaging. But that jumped out to me caddying. I think the only thing I'd add to that, too, Neil, is the difference in playing it at different times a year. All of those things are true, but also the fairways seem pretty soft. You're not going to have to worry about a ton of runouts, whereas if you came here at a different time of year, when they come here for the U.S. Open in a couple of years next year, I guess. Like you look for, look for that stuff to be a little firmer and it just takes everything you're saying, you know, to an even bigger factor. And then you move on beyond that. And it's like, what really struck me was just how many three footers are outside the hole. You know, you get some of these like big mag, tiny greens that are massively pitched. Like number one was the one that stuck out to me this time, that high right shoulder, like that, that back, right to front left slope is just massive so much bigger than it looks uh on tv for such a small green uh number eight that little kind of pimple that's on the the right side in the middle of that eighth green was giving guys fits all day yesterday as they're trying to get to that back right pin uh there is there's more going on than that meets the eye for sure uh which which makes it fun you just kind of kind of match it up with the right conditions a lot to improve to like you know sally you've called it out already like 17 like i'd love to get the pacific ocean a little more involved at 17 great view you know like there's energy at 17 but it could be a better golf hole um and then it kind of i haven't stopped thinking about it we were standing on 11 green which is our second hole of the day and we were waiting for somebody to putt and so i just like you know tap me on the arm he's like hey look down that fairway like how sick would it be if this hole played the opposite direction And it's just like straight out, like basically all you, you know, it's like you're looking out of Tahiti down the hill. And that, that would, that was, that, that stuck with me. It's hard because you come to Pebble Beach, you get out of those, those holes by the ocean. You, there's so much incredible stuff that hits you. There's so many great views. It's an awesome, awesome walk. It's an awesome, incredible experience. yet you are quite frequently left with just this little bit of desire, you know, this little bit of like, it could be better. It could be better. But then you're a bad guy if you constantly bring up how the golf course could be better. But I'm not exaggerating when I say this. I guess let me qualify a lot of this. Like Pebble Beach, why is it that way? We've lost Neil for a second. We're hoping to get him back. But why is it that way? Pebble Beach is a resort course. It is designed to get the number we heard, I think, was 65,000 rounds over the course of a year. If you're unfamiliar with that, that's a lot. If you're not familiar with how many rounds of golf that is. So the golf course needs to be designed to maintain, you know, withstand that level of play. And for the amount of play it gets, it's an incredible shape. Like you fix a ball mark on that greens and you can't even tell where your ball just hit. There's so much green grass. It does not look like just trudged over, you know, day after day after day. so hey renovating the golf course to fit what uh you know a a to fit the pro game is kind of more of what i would be talking about is somewhat unrealistic they kind of renovate one green at a time one hole at a time and their philosophy for the entire golf course just runs counter to hosting big golf tournaments and especially this time of year you're just going to get soft wet conditions so you're going to end up with dart fest low scores and uh you know a little bit of lack of intrigue around some of the shots because the slopes don't come to life when balls are landing that softly. I'll say this though, and this was a surprise to me playing it up close and personal that I'm not playing the Gasparilla this coming week. Ben is going to be playing. We're going to be filming. We're going to have a video. We're going to be bringing you the content. But I would definitively say like around the greens, the Gasparilla plays harder than a PGA Tour event does like, like not even close in terms of where they put the pins. how fast they get it, how hard the chips are. Granted, that's Bermuda and the grass is different, but the whole challenge of trying to get close to the pins from those greens is harder in a mid-am event than it is on the PGA Tour. And that feels really backwards to me, Dej. It really does. There were so many times I had... I did not even play well this week, but had greenside chips from rough that I could grab a 58 from the fairway, walk right up to it, and just hit a little flop onto the collar, and it went right next to the hole for a gimme. And I'm, I'm struggling with my short game and it was very easy for me. And I just, I have a problem with that. And I think that that is something that can continue to improve at Pebble beach. Is that fair? yeah I would agree with that for sure there's still some spots to miss I mean we mentioned it before Scott he was on on 15 he's above the hole he flew it past and he's just in the like when you get in the bad spots you are chipping downhill downwind it can get a little nasty but yeah without the short grass firm conditions you're not really losing a lot of chips out there or kind of like oh my gosh that's a horrible spot where he's never going to recover it can you don't get punished for missing is the is the bigger part right and again work back like the you know the reason why the golf course is the way it is and why they play at this time of year like this is when the west coast swing is and like maybe it won't be that way forever like maybe maybe pebble beach will become part of the playoff swing and we'll see it in a different condition and different parts of it will come to life maybe there's equipment changes in the future that make it play differently but the combination of of how they set up that golf course when they play it and the current equipment deprives us of the greatness of what pebble beach can be is it still great and is it still an incredible experience teach we talk about this while you're out there you've been there how many times and never played the golf course uh which which is a little bit of a crime but it's it's one of the golf courses i would say like playing this like 95 of the experience is just being there you know i mean playing the golf shots is incredibly fun as well but like you can't say that about every golf course uh you know you can just visit it and get most of the experience, but I would say that about Pebble beach. No, I, I totally agree. And that that's, uh, yeah, I think that's spot on. You know, the, you're a lot of why you're out there is to see how big the Hill on six is and to go watch guys try to flight balls down in the wind on seven and to, you know, see where the runout is on eight and all of that stuff. So it's, uh, yeah, I, I bet this is probably the 30th time I've walked the golf course today, uh, without ever having played it. I did get to hit a shot on seven thanks to my pro uh on wednesday when i was caddying during the practice round solly that was very benevolent of you uh but the uh yeah maybe i'll piece together the other 17 holes uh someday neil welcome back man gentlemen sorry uh you know like i said at the top we're we're experimenting some new tech it just it just decided not to work but we're back we're we're uh changing cams so uh thanks for having me on your show sure neil before we move off just uh any anything else you garnered from your time inside the ropes caddying uh neil that uh that that really stuck with you uh i think the the walk up six is i was i was huffing and puffing that's a big ass hill but six and eight i what a weird places to put golf holes they're both so like awkward i don't know i i just if i was designing a course i would have made two very different holes there and i'm glad they didn't because they're so unique and they're almost the inverse of each other like one's up with you know kind of over a chasm not quite one on six not quite eight but um i just those holes i've all everyone talks about those holes so i'm not breaking any new ground here but just like walking up and down them you're like man these are just like really awkward and unique and um interesting golf holes as far as if you're routing a golf course i'm not sure that's the par five and the par four i would have i would have put there but i'm very glad they did so i don't know if that's i don't know they're just yeah six and eight they're sticking with me not breaking any new ground there uh if we have these cody i did uh on back on the pebble note i did do like a really quick so first off joel stewart a guy on instagram uh did the did a post a couple weeks ago just about like uh an idea for renovation right we talk a lot about you know bringing bringing pebble to life with with a little extra flair he had a great post of just like here's what what if you're watching this here on youtube well here's what the 12th hole looks like up above take the trees out and bring the uh bring the view of the ocean back into play which uh again seems obvious and makes sense and putting a little bit of a redan feature on that green just how much stronger that hole looks and i did that i did this in chad gbt in two seconds of just like take the fourth hole and and kind of add a little bit more texture to it like add like this is the what the fourth hole looks like now kind of the circular green uh bunker set back from the green a little bit, a little rough collar in there and just not a lot of texture to it. And just like, all right, shape the green a little bit differently. Add a little bit of layer of some longer grass around the green, around, you know, around this and some thick grass brown behind it. Do you have that image, Cody, by chance? There it is. And just add like just some flair to it instead of just looking at a lot of green grass everywhere. It doesn't change that much strategy on it, but it brings the bunkers just a little bit closer to the edge of that. And, you know, again i could i could do this in a lot more detail if i had more time to do it and threw out a lot of holes on it like it it wouldn't take a lot to really bring a lot of pebble beaches features to life because there's so much good there there's so much slope in these greens like this green in particular like could be a really really really good hole but it just should be uh a little bit more penal uh for the misses on this one because it's such a short hole so those are two quick examples so that's just some yeah some aesthetic stuff like when when you do get the sun out there It almost looks like a simulation in the afternoon when the sun's coming over the Pacific. To have some heather grass or some different contrast would probably make a big difference. It would improve the place for sure. I did get to watch Rory make a triple on number four. He did not think that it was too easy. Did he finish, what, four back, three back after 64 today? that he finished at 17 under five back of colin five back okay uh yeah that was doubles over at spyglass too that was surreal just chunk chips and blue one in the ocean it was the you know you don't get to see that uh that every day but anyway um oh guys i want to give a shout out to our friends at sofi the ultimate finance app for sponsoring a new segment here uh that is the down the leaderboard segment with i'm just getting word we have him waiting uh in the wings mr tc Go to SoFi.com slash NLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with SoFi+. Let's go down the board. Mr. TC, where are you and how are you? And let the world hear your voice. Gentlemen, I am in Montana. Not a lot of snow here right now, but hopefully it gets a little bit of snow coming the next few days. and my family is stuck in Jacksonville. So I've got a free roll tonight. But I thought you guys were way too easy on Pebble. I'm sorry. Like the stuff we were saying about 15 or... Hey, listen, great golf course from three through 10. I believe this is the down the leaderboard segment from Mr. TC. If we can go down the leaderboard. We'll go back to that stuff. Minwoo, T2 disgusting, disgusting stuff yesterday on Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening just, you know, in the conditions, where are the adults? Where are the parents? We need to do better than that. He should not have been T2 What did he do? He should have penalized for that He just refused to like hit his shots and then he ended up hitting one off the path and wouldn't play because he felt like The conditions weren't right. It was outrageous. It took him half an hour to play one hole. Half an hour. Crazy. Sepp, Neil, I assume, I will table the Sepp discussion until we get to the Beluga big board. Sure. Because he really, really gave it to you. The model just wasn't spitting out Sepp this week, but he might be the honorary Shane Lowry of the week. Got the best of me. Scotty, I believe we were walking around on Thursday. after Scotty, you know, put up a clunker on Thursday and said, yeah, like he's still going to finish top five though. Sure enough, T4 after the three Eagles today and 63 with three bogeys is just remarkable. The great man Tommy. 18 top tens in a row now? Is that where we're at? Stay tuned. We do have a new Fedora five that we'll be rolling out after this as well. So backdoor top five from Tommy. We love that. 67, 68, 67, 66. Yeah, but he didn't really like, he didn't put up a stinker either. He just kind of, you know, just, and he looks great doing it. He's got no sponsorships right now. He's logo-less or he's got plenty of logos on him. He's just not getting paid for him right now. He looks great. Like if people thought that Tommy could be any more likable and any more popular, that, you know, like it is possible because he's going to look better now that he's freed up from the Nike stuff. Just beating up the Pebble Beach Pro Shop this week, huh? Yeah, yeah. Sam Burns, I believe we might have a new tannable. He wore that tan sweater pretty much every day this week and played pretty good golf, 72 in round three, T6. Akshay, I think he's definitely anchoring. Oh, come on. You don't think so? No, I don't think Akshay is actively cheating. with 85 cameras on him while he's playing professional golf, TC. I do not think so. CBS refuses to show him from the side angle when he's on the greens. They cut away from that angle real quick. Wow. Do your own research out there, people. I need somebody next tournament. They need to evaluate how many side angles we get. See if TC is right about this. Is that coming from inside the moat? They're piping that in. Anyway. Anyway. Hitsitsun, we'll get there. Lowry, solid week, T8. Nico Echeverria. Neil, I'm not going to let you take that on the big board. Jake Knapp, we were glazing him a little bit earlier this week and he certainly stepped up to the plate. Jacob Bridgman, I think you guys talked about that from 18 earlier. Coluga talked a lot about him. TC, can I say one thing on Jacob Bridgman? I'm sure this was a lot on the people watching at home. A lot of like, who the hell is Jacob Bridgman type stuff. First of all, must credit No Lying Up Live show. We were shouting him out a big time on Wednesday as a player to watch, but he's kind of a victim of the signature event model. The more I thought about it, you know, he had a good year last year and got into the signature events and now is like, he doesn't have, it's a bit of the big tone, you know, he's playing too many good events, solid, but he doesn't have a, a great platform to go out and win the, you know, win some lesser events for people to be like, Oh, he's an up and coming player. He's just up and coming already. He's already there. And so now he seems like a nobody when he's there. and he's kind of like it do you get what i'm saying it's kind of a weird a weird spot where he can't really like prove himself in the minors because he's already in the majors and then when he goes to win everybody's like this guy who's this guy i've never heard of this guy he must suck it's like it's a weird it's just a weird cut uh cutting both shoes aren't helping anywhere's to blow by his shoes he does but listen he's good he's a good player and i refuse to uh you know consider him anonymous any further god i would love to clip the tape of when i rolled out that theory about Big Tone just to see what your response to that would have been. I appreciate you coming around on that and admitting defeat on that one, DJ. That means a lot. Big Tone had been a pro for like 14 years by that point. He won like five times. Thank you. Please continue to cook, TC. Hideki? I'm impressed. Hideki, 367s and a 69 after he looked like he had completely lost his swing there down the stretch at Waste Management. Rory, you guys discussed that earlier, final round 64. Pat, the hammer can't lay finishes t14 after after a dub we'll get there in the in the uh in the in the uh fedora five uh tom hoagie neil let's kind of throw you off the scent a little bit no but i think in the in the belugas big board i think i hit hoagie spot on or just just about so we're gonna fly the banner on that one tc uh big tone 18th russ henley uh alex smalley brian harman listen the one that I want to call out from this T19 group, Ricky Fowler. I thought we were going to see a win from Ricky this week after the 66-64 to start in the benign conditions. 73-70 on the weekend. That's not going to get it done. Disappointed in that. I watched him quite a bit yesterday. He was out of sorts, man. That 73 was tough. I don't know if he was potentially blinded by the lights. You don't play with your guy, the star boy, but it was It just not good golf for him You got to explain uh was he trying to glaze in the weekend uh and dj brian brian all lane on twitter uh great on on xd everything app great nickname uh and then zolli he said that he's going to counseling now because uh you made fun of them well i just said it sounded like a revel nickname i will say the star egg now calling the star boy What else we got? We got Lynx Master Jordan limped home this weekend. Mavs, 63-73 on the weekend. Jordan was in it through like seven holes today. What the hell happened after that? Crazy. Team Rose, T-37. Can't be having that. Ludwig heating up a little bit. 66-67. And then ryan gerard t45 i i need to see more ryan gerard and novak both both down in the in the latter half of the field so hate it that's your that's your down the leaderboard though gents deej we gotta get a uh the the uh gif of uh the weekend in the mirrors at the super bowl halftime show if like he's popping off on the weekend just you know in the hall of mirrors we need to get that dialed up ready to go a lot of people thousands of people out there called him the weekend it's crazy a lot of people in there got their money right you can go to sofi.com slash nlu to learn more about how you can get your money right with sofi plus uh is the white do we have the white smoke is the fedora five going to be a new thing every week like are you just going to kind of declare when there's time for a fedora five are we getting one tonight we the people are dying to know for an update for this we are getting one tonight typically i wouldn't do one when there's not a bunch whoa it's the conclave typically we wouldn't get one if there's not a dp world tour event and a corn fairy tour event and everything but i think enough happened this week where we can get a fedora five uh so i also do want to say i'd never stepped foot at spyglass before I've seen it on TV. I've seen a lot of pictures. Like, whatever you said about Pebble being built for a bunch of resort guests or being set up and just manicured for a bunch of resort guests, I don't know what Spyglass is for them because that place, it's a fucking slog. I mean, really cool first six holes. There's a couple cool – there's some cool things there, but I felt like I was at Greenville Country Club in South Carolina in spots. Just, yeah, just a strange, strange routing. Just a very strange round of golf. Multiple personalities out there at Spyglass. Like, really hot girl personality for the first, like, five holes. And then it kind of teeters on that line on the hot, crazy scale. The quirkier, the better. Like, there's some real fun, weird stuff. And then it gets kind of kind of like just championship golf, deep bunkers, perched up greens, and just a nightmare for a lot of a lot of, you know, paying resort guests. And then some, then there's like a really fun hole. And then it just gets back into, you don't know what you're going to get every corner you turn. How'd you play out there? Solly, I didn't even played. Okay. Ish again, just kind of repeated, you know, the same thing for people. I only made one birdie. I missed a couple like really good birdie opportunities at spa. I hit better approach shots at spy and was kind of just lost with the putter, unfortunately, out there. Mav did make more bogeys out there, so I did save a couple shots for our team with a couple pars, which he didn't make any bogeys at Pebble. But, no, it was not my best effort. We had a lot of fun, though, Neil. Those things are designed for you're shipping it, trying to make a ton of birdies. I hit a couple reckless shots. I went for it on 14 from a spot that didn't make any sense, really. but we had a driver off the deck just to please TC on 11 from like 265 into the wind, carrying a massive like big dip in the fairway that there's, I'd never had a shot, but we, we, we sent that out there. We had a lot of fun. Yeah. There's some cool holes. There's just not a lot of, there's not a lot of continuity in spots. And then there's some characterless greens and, and then they're like, yeah, like we're just going to redo this green and it's different from the rest of them. It's just, yeah, I don't really get it. But anyway, that thing, That thing was in the top 50, top 100 in the world for decades. Like, what are we doing, Golf Digest? It's crazy. Anyway, Fedora 5. Last week, we had P, Goddard, Siwoo, Team Rose, Ryan Gerard, and Callum Hill. This week, starting at number 6. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Starting at number 5, we have 8K. 8K has cracked the Fedora 5 at 5th. Well deserved. Well deserved. You guys heard it. Well deserved on the credit. January 12th, you know, that nobody's been working harder in the world than AK. And it bears itself out. Are we sure it's hot, though? Or is it like... Hey, listen. We did say we can't critique TC's for number five. This is his chance to cook. This is not auditable. This is a play space for TC. He's got him at number five. and neil i would say from a from a hot perspective uh he's gone from 800 or he's gone from 1800 in the world uh last at the end of last year the 203 after this week nobody's risen more spots you cannot argue that he's hot he's hot um we have a tie for fourth okay tie for fourth we have Jackson Koivin, who won his second consecutive collegiate event, medalist in the second consecutive collegiate event this week at the Gator event down in Gainesville, and Scott Scheffler. We have a tie between those two for fourth. He moved up. Interesting. Because he wasn't in there last week. Oh, yeah. Scotty was not in there last week. Listen, the 63 with three Eagles, like, he's fucking hot. He's hot. He's hot. And I think we can officially say that I think good things are on the horizon for him. Little bit of a curveball at three. All right. I know I'm going to catch some flack for this, but that's okay. I've got Ripper GC at third. As a team? As a team. They've won back-to-back events now. And, you know, won their home event down in Adelaide on a real golf course. Playing good golf. Big leash. Great final round. 65 there bogey free and i think ripper gc hats off to them chapeau okay uh next up we've got the weekend hits at sunay uh he's he's hot and he's consistently hot neil this is what this is a little bit of what you were talking about um you know you've got the blue flame stuff over here but you got the white coals the weekend right now is the white coals i see that's that's kind of what you're exactly right. That's what I'm getting at. I like that pick TC. Okay. And then, and then first we still have P P is, P is still the hottest player in the world. And I don't think anybody's taken that away from him. I don't think he's playing this week at the magical Kenya open at Karen golf club. Yeah. I know your model. Like I do think I do. That could hurt him. We'll see. And then on the watch list, we've got Siwoo Kim team roses still, still floating around, but he's been bumped down to the watch list. Tom Fleetwood, Colin Morikawa, little baby Colin. That's wild that he's only had one top 10 since the Quicken Loans. And lastly, I've got Mary Meeker who won the amateur portion. I think she was like 9 under on her own ball on two rounds and paired up with Keegan. So, down to Mary Meeker, you keep this going and you could be looking at a Fedora 5 spot. TC turned the Fedora 5 into the Fedora 9. That ripper, geez, nobody saw that coming. Unbelievable. You knew something was coming. Speaking of proprietary models and boards, is it time maybe to take a little look at the Beluga's big board? How did this year's effort, and for those that are somehow unfamiliar, on the Wednesday live show prior to the Pebble Beach Pro-Am, Neil goes in and tries to predict the exact leaderboard from one all the way down to 80 for the Pell Beach Pro-Am. And how did you do this year, Neil? I think we improved. You know, continuous learning. That's love a good feedback loop. But I think year three is our best year yet. The future is bright. Are you leveraging AI? No, not at all, TC. I saw you put that in the chat earlier. I didn't like that. The only thing I used AI for was to give me, like, the complete field list, and it left out Alex Smalley. So it didn't even really help me that much. Neil kept saying it was a 79-man field, and I just took it. I couldn't let him do it. I was like, literally, how would this be 79, people? So, listen, and we'll leave that there. Guys, I'll start with the lowlights. Siwoo, you know, didn't get it done. He's still in the Fedora 5, but not – No, he's on the watch list. He was battling today to try to, you know, try to salvage something, but that didn't go well. Well, he was the ultimate example, Neil, of, you know, it kind of especially when we do all these live shows it kind of only matters what you do in the first couple hours on thursday right and see whoo birdied five of the five of his first five like all five of his first five we looked at the leaderboard and it was good we're like oh my god yeah exactly like neil rocked it then i looked today and he was at like 66th and i was like okay maybe not but he battled today to save you some face uh we were on 17 and we looked at the leaderboard and see what kim was in first and brian campbell was in last and i was like just shut it all down number he's gonna bid it he wanted to take a picture next to the board like he was uh you know at the top of it himself uh low lights would be siwu colin is the honorary shane lowry award winner i had him in the 60s and he ended up winning the tournament uh hideki minwu i had minu way down the board nico echivarius stunting on me and big tone played really well so well and yeah well sep wasn't that far down tc he was like in the 30s so 44th and he finished yeah you had colin colin 69th colin was 69th and one minwoo lee was 72nd and got second and sep uh was uh 44th and got second place you love my minwoo call so i you guys were backing me on that one uh for sure you know what regrettably as much as i i like to you know uh call minwoo the unstable compound and this guy's gonna get blown out to see like regrettably hit some very flighty proper golf shots today He hit some really good shots. All right. I do want to. We had some, some, some, some good stuff. Brian Campbell came in last guys that, that deserves T 77. I believe him and Thor Bjornsson. Solly, I was dogging Thor Bjornsson. You didn't like that. A T 70. Bjornsson wrecked his rig today. I called out before I locked the board. I had him in like the fifties. I called it out though, in the moment that I was like, that was bad. Vegas also tied for last. Adam Shank, I nailed that one. He's way down the board. Matty Schmid, see ya. Aaron Rye stinks. Danny McCarthy. TC, you didn't like me calling out Lee Harvey Oswald. He played like shit. I had Spieth right in that. Daniel Berger did too. Like right around 25, I think, for Spieth. I think he was 29th, so I'm flying the banner there. Jake Knapp played really well. That's a highlight. Also, Jake Knapp got Echo Star on his sleeve. that might be the like the most random like the premier satellite communication company is sponsoring jake knapp like didn't see that coming uh what else do we have not the premier satellite communication company well echo star calls himself they have a bunch of um bandwidth that they like self-glossed like sold to everybody anyway uh sahith uh couldn't trust it deej we're right about that couldn't trust it um who else i'm just these are joe high your words neil not mine but yeah you know what the solid thing was funny so we were joking about this on uh that was friday i think because you were hitting balls next to sahith to warm up and it just was a like immediate uh illustration of how hard it is to predict golf because i mean so he's like legitimately hitting it better than saw it on the range so i was hitting it all over these big white fades that are just i'm just like yo and then he's like talking to his physio he's like i'm feeling something here like this guy's about to get blown off the planet man and he goes out he shoots like he's like 500 through 14 or something i'm like yeah i gotta not not try to predict anything uh some good some good close calls with akshay i thought he'd play well uh you know lefties do well at pebble historically we know that um well scotty for the audience that's not true no it's not but it's gonna become true i actually love randy's take it was rattling around my brain this weekend like i he he predicted that akshay is the next lefty to win augusta uh last year i i think about that a lot i'm like man i i he and with i talked to joe griner is his caddy on the uh before we went out and played solly on the putting green we had like a five minute conversation and he see we play with akshay at the bmw and he was very all business It's not no chit chat, like, you know, compared to like the front nine with Russell Henley. And I said to Joe, he's like, this is kind of a keep up and shut up bag. He's like, no, man, we're vibing so hard. Like he's he is really chatty. And he's like, I really like he's got a Joe had a ton of energy. He's like, I'm really excited about this season. Like Akshay is maturing. He works his ass off. We're both lefties. We see things the same way. He seems to trust my read, you know, like my, my clubbing and like, he's like, it's a good discussion with us. So that was honestly, now I'm like, that was a really useful conversation. And it's all, you know, Joe's a friend. So it's nice to hear that he's doing well. But I'd say look out for Akshay, like impressive stuff. Now, one of the things I will put in the models for next year, Akshay seemed really cold today. No body fat. We need to factor that in. He had the hand warmer on, didn't feel like he had enough layers, both Saturday and Sunday. So he just seemed a little uncomfortable with the weather out there today. So just filing that away for next year for the model. We do have just a bit of a statistical look at how you did this year, Neil. Just a smidge of one. Please forgive the AI slop of the photos in this graphic if you have it, Cody. But it looks like you got three of the top ten, correct? 30% man. That's a Hall of Fame number there. I do not know what any of these players look like, by the way. Your average error was 22.6 spots off. You did nail Jake Knapp in the top three. We lost our graphic. There we go. Sam Burns, and your biggest misses were Siwu, Morikawa, and Victor Hovland. Hovland, I was saving that for the end. Hovland is the honorary Doug Gimm Award winner this year. I think I had him in the top 10, and he finished... Where did he finish? Way down the board. T58. 58. So that's tough. I will say there's some guy on Twitter or X, the everything app, like Sledge, at Sledge or something. He always does a really good infographic, good analysis of the board. So I'll be sure to float that out there when he tells me that, hopefully I did better than the random number generator. That's always the goal, DJ, is did we do better than the random number generator? I think I did this year. Yeah. Yeah, and you're out there showing your work. The random number generator is not doing that. That's right. I think that's good. Yeah, I think people can continue to tail the Beluga's big board as an index next year. I feel like Sam Burns is kicking himself after this week. He seemed like he was in prime position to put this thing away. He's so good, TC. I know he kind of gets a little bit of like, are you going to close it out sort of uh flack on this here program but my god man watching him drive it watching him put it watching him control his spin watching him flight it i mean it's he's really good he's a very very very good player and he's in kind of a class of his own or he's in that upper crust of of real golfers uh out there i think neil i got you uh beating on a meet absolute error the random number generator by about four spots is uh that's improvement for sure and the top 10 you're hitting the top 10 at a much higher we'll wait for my guy sledge to weigh in i think he's kind of the uh he's got he's got the sledge hammer the final save for me uh tc anything else from you before uh before we let you go no i'm excited to uh hear you guys talk about ladies saudi and live adelaide i just want to say cliques beat the crushers this week uh proud of them for that uh moron uh keimer was out and then the fireballs are in a bad spot uh they they seem to be really really struggling the majestics are are completely hopeless but um tune in next week i think we i think after riv in the magical kenya open we will get a new fedora five so i'm guaranteeing one for next week all right yeah a lot thank you for calling in from your vacation my friend crack on uh and cheers final few notes from pebble i saw yes obviously debuted uh some new wind graphics this week um just which was a great week for that that was a pretty clutch ad for this week to show uh the depth and the variety of the winds at different heights and just how hard it was blowing and the directions and all that for the golf course that depends a lot on that that was super additive and i believe this was the first ever use of the double drones of uh of getting the drone view from like behind the tee and also catching balls landing via drone uh for again for a place with massive cliffs and just like showing the elevation change of that place uh from from a very different view and getting the drone shot of jacob bridgeman down there on the beach i was gonna say solid this the final 20-25 minutes of the broadcast with the drone of bridgeman and showing a different angle of 18 I mean, it was like that was awesome TV. It was really, really good. For like what was like just a sitting around waiting game, I was locked in that whole time. So shout out to CBS for that. 100%. Sponsor exemption notes. We have Max Homa, Tom Kim, Sahith, and Adam Scott are in this coming week into Genesis. Bay Hill, Horschel, Chris Kirk, and Jordan Spieth getting yet. He famously did not get an exemption into Bay Hill last year, but I imagine that will be a topic of conversation here coming soon as well. I feel like the Genesis ones are fair. I mean, Max, past champ, global superstar. Past winner, yeah. I'm just putting Sahith on, you know, are we sure? Are we sure? People are going to complain about Jordan Spieth getting into events. I'm not saying, I'm just saying. Hater, you were right there next to him on the range. I could have made my career harder on you. As always, one of my favorite golfers. I wish him nothing. I hope he wins every tournament he plays, but I'm trying to call it both ways here, guys. 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They were absolutely ready for the party. uh guys massive massive story uh in the in the world of golf and i gotta admit i just did not see this coming i hope i hope that's fair i hope that's recognizable uh anthony kim the golfer uh absolutely wiped the fucking floor with john rom and bryson de chambo down at live adelaide he was five back of both of them heading into the final round shot a final round 63 he won by three over Rom and one by six over Bryson. It is of course his first win since the 2010 shell Houston open again, just to emphasize how unlikely this win was the odds I saw on the everything app floating around where he was five 25 to one pre-tournament for this event. And I believe I saw this 220 or 200 to one prior to the final round playing in the final group with Bryson and Rom. uh i and i mean there's just a i don't know where to start with this like this is he uh he played i believe two entire years of golf without gaining shots on the field like without a single event above neutral strokes game uh until he finished t5 at the piff saudi uh then of course he qualified for the final spot on live through the uh promotion series this year had a good week last week and Riyadh and just absolutely stunned everyone with this uh I don't really honestly know where to start with this because uh my mind is in a complete pretzel on this one uh I mean I can start I watched a ton of this last night I'm still out here on the west coast watching in in the pacific time zone and it was on right as I was going to bed and I stayed up for the whole thing because it was fucking awesome it was awesome the crowds were awesome the golf course was awesome AK made every single putty looked at. He's fist pumping his brains out like after on like the 14th hole. I mean, he's just he's running around the greens fist pumping. It was it was very, very, very sick to watch. And he's doing it in a 72 hole for event on a firm golf course against John Rahm and Bryson DeChambeau. And it was it was surreal, like extremely surreal to watch. I think, you know, lots of noise, obviously, with the live golf of it all. But I think if anybody has listened to this podcast for the last, how long have we been doing this podcast? 10 years, 12 years? Like, there shouldn't be any confusion of where we kind of stand on AK. Because I think he was a seminal figure in all of our golf upbringings, right? And our most formative years of watching golf. And man, all those feelings are still in there and came flooding back in a big way as this dude who has been through all kinds of personal stuff. We never thought we'd actually see him on, uh, you know, see him on a golf course again is showing up and doing that against like two major champions. It was, it was awesome, man. And, and I'm just, you know, we can talk about kind of what it all means and what, you know, going, going forward, but just to linger on the specific moment, man, it, it was iconic, iconic stuff. and a long-term payoff for some bets by Live, right? The Adelaide event has been their strongest over the last couple of years. And I think this was a manifestation of them continuing to invest in that event and making that one as good as it can be. And then also, I mean, the AK thing I think started as a complete publicity stunt, right? And trying to grab notoriety and trying to grab relevance. and I can't imagine that even they thought that they would get something like this. And so for him, you know, Tron, like we kind of had some crosstalk earlier, but like Tron was saying this, you know, talking to some people like, yo, he's working his ass off and he went out, he got relegated, he qualified back for the league. And I know we can talk about all of that as well, but went out, earned his spot, is working hard and like straight up stared down two of the best golfers in the world over 72 holes. And it was awesome. I don't know what really... that's that's kind of my big takeaway from it it was incredible yeah i saw some highlights deej and shout out to adelaide i mean look like an electric environment so for this to have the stars aligned here like if this happens in riad i don't know if it has as much juice as like just the uh totally the energy of being in australia and it's just inspirational when not a lot of times this in professional sports or just life as you get older when like effort gets rewarded like that you know like when you're younger effort gets rewarded and like you get to you know it gets you to a scholarship or whatever but at this stage it's like yeah ak didn't play golf for what 10 12 years and it's like a lot of times you'd be like yeah you work as hard as you want brother but it ain't gonna happen like to just will yourself into birding i mean pretty five of the last seven holes it's like just true self-belief and and grinding last year like he was shooting 80 last year on these in these events like it's crazy imagine how many balls john rom hit in that 10 to 12 year period to like get incredibly good at golf and start the day with a five shot lead over this dude uh and just to get run down on the final day like in front of a shitload of people too it's like you said it's not like awesome like like he's like you know we had the we made shirts legends never die like you know where where did ak go we don't know like you know he's struggling with a bunch of stuff and it's like i mean my concern with ak coming back was like oh they're gonna parade him out like a uh like a gimmick deej like a publicity stunt it's like that's not that's not really what but then for this to work out and him to just go out and win it's like that's i i mean worth all of it it's awesome it's i i got nothing else to say but it's just it's like a storybook i don't want to say ending because it's not over but just a storybook narrative here like you just don't see somebody just willing themselves back into being a competitive force it's unbelievable and that's just like a dub is a dub man what a dub unbelievable i think back to josh hamilton the baseball player that was a former number one overall draft pick had massive off-field problems substance abuse problems and like was drafted in the rule five draft by the Reds came, you know, was extreme long shot to make the roster. Like, let's see if this, this, you know, guy has anything left ends up becoming an MVP in major league baseball. Like the extremely unlikely story of, of overcoming some major personal obstacles to achieve something back. Sporting field. And man, it's again, just so incredibly unlikely. I can't, I can't believe it. I the most happy that he seems happy in his life and I don know him at all and I have no reason to root for him But I am weirdly invested in him being sober and celebrating You just look at him. You can see the wear and tear that his problems have had on him. And again, just to come back out and beat those two guys playing with him. And it is like I kind of rolled my eyes when I woke up and saw a lot of tweets like like saying you would, you know, the movie script, you know, you would get turned down because it isn't believable. But I'm kind of like, man, that is kind of like a movie. I mean, we can laugh. Putting the live golf stuff aside for a second. I don't think this changes the live golf conversation at all. Again, I'm just celebrating like this moment of of this dude overcoming all this to go back and win on the golf course is congrats to him. And I'm I could not imagine a better story coming out of live golf. and then well and just talk not only that yeah go ahead sorry not only that's all but the uh you know i feel like the pj tour equivalent of this that we have kind of that even it even saying pj tour equivalent of this is like very reductive to how fucking incredible the story is but we've talked a lot about justin rose right and like oh man he's just later in his career he's just continued to to grind and grind and grind yeah imagine if justin rose just disappeared for 12 years. Like how, how unlikely that would, that would be. It's just, you can't, uh, it's impossible to explain, man. And it's kind of the thing that, you know, again, I said this earlier, but you go back on golf Twitter 10 years ago when everybody's talking about, you know, Anthony Kim, like he's some sort of Yeti, you know, that's, that's hiding in the wilderness somewhere. I don't think any of us would have believed this story, but like, this is kind of the moment that all of were hoping for right it's like what if he comes back and he's still that same dude that you know made 11 birdies at the masters whatever whatever it was uh but like then in 2009 yeah and it's just so rare uh even setting all of that aside uh which is a giant a huge pile of stuff to set aside because it's incredible to believe there's also like tour players and uh you know the best golfers in the the world are so good now at like keeping their composure and not like Scotty shot 63 today. And I was standing next to him on so many tee boxes and he's looked like he was playing a pro am. He's just kind of like, he's yucking it up with Ted and he's talking to Max McGreevy and he's just kind of not too high, not too low. Like Anthony Kim is laying everything he has out there on every single putt he, he makes like, you just don't ever get to see that either. And so it was kind of like his outward emotions very much matched i think how everybody was feeling watching this like you almost saw him be like i can't fucking believe this is working like oh my god like i can't believe that i'm in this position again this is incredible and it just made for really good tv man i don't i don't know what else to say other than that it was it was great man you just yeah you we do need some more emotive characters on the pga tour uh or or just all these guys playing together i don't know like it's it's uh but i mean what so just for a second rom shoots one under today or yesterday bryson two over and then hatton was was t3 i mean he he went toe-to-toe with all like those are the three dudes over there on live and he just like ran away with it wasn't even close that's it too that's a that's a celebration of that style of play of sandbell golf that like just adds you know i mean again this the the kind of you know i don't want to don't i don't want this to come off the wrong way in terms of like we're celebrating this accomplishment but like the the other side of this look for ak is like statistically it's still going to be very hard for him to compete on a lot of different golf courses like his distance his average driving distance is like significantly lower than than the average tour pro like close to close to bottom close to aaron rye levels without any kind of sort of accuracy at least it has been Right. We could be entering an entirely new era where with a new golf swing and the work that he's been putting in that that includes more speed. But like a style of like again to do it like the kind of one week that's going to set up the best for you with firm firmness everywhere and kind of an open more open style of play in front of all those people. And have that be clearly lives best event is just what made this thing like just super unbelievable thing happen on top of it happening here on top of it being in front of all those people was just like I don't I don't know what. what kind of comeback story would be next. You know, I guess unless he goes and does it at a major championship, which again seems quite unlikely. Saw a lot of stuff out there about him. He should get a master's invite now. I do believe that to be extremely unlikely. A lot of hyperbole happened on the Everything app over the last 24 hours. But it again doesn't take away from just the ridiculousness of this entire situation. Well, I would say, though, I am glad that he earned his way back on to this live because he did, in some ways, a couple years ago or last year, get to skip the line a little bit. And that's when the ability to just kind of bring someone in for star power worked out for a really, really good story. But you could also argue, if you wanted to be pessimistic, is like, oh, well, if he was trying to do this within the PGA Tour system, it's like, I don't know if he probably doesn't make out of Q school because of all the things you're saying, Solly. yeah like this the stars just would never even come close to aligning in this way so just a lot to unpack here that's all i guess is what i'm getting at it's like it's great man it's great to talk about yeah and i think for live like as a as a league i mean i i think there's so much uh there's just so much golf but louder talk that is so easy to roll your eyes at and so just so easy to kind of ignore as like bluster or weird posturing. I'm like, no, this is the first one that I've been like, man, that's like a very legitimate moment for the league. Again, I don't know if you can, it's like you can recapture this and do it again or, you know, outside of AK going and winning five times and getting into the top 50 in the world and getting a bunch of major exemptions. Like, I don't know how you kind of like draft off of this. I don't know that necessarily Scotty and JT and Colin are going to be like, wow, if AK can do it, then maybe I should join Live Golf. I don't think it's that necessarily. But I think it's the first moment that I'm like, no, that's 100% real juice. You added something to the golf world. Totally. So much of it has been divisive and taking stuff off the table and unnecessary splits. But I've said this every year, I think, after Live Adelaide. It was like you zoom in on like that event and you're like, of course, this is a great event. Like I'm not going to nitpick this one. Like I'm so stoked for the people of Adelaide and Australia that they get their event. They they found the Saudi sugar daddy to fund it. Like the problem they've always had is being able to fund that event or whatever, you know, major event that they that they, you know, will obviously love to have like zoom in on that micro like all of that makes sense. Do I think it was like worth tearing the golf world apart just for like this this annual event? No, I don't personally, but people of Australia may feel entirely different. And obviously there are fans of this league that do feel that it was all worth it. This doesn't change my opinion on that, but it doesn't mean you can't look at this and be like, this was a added positive element to the golf world, which I think Liv is short on. But like this, this definitely clears the bar. Solly's hitting Liv with one of the Phil Mickelson. I see you play. Pick that one up. That's good. That's good. That's great. well played other other thing i was going to add so is uh brian rollap team at pga tour enterprises uh if if everything's on the table man we got to mic up caddies like this is just such a this is such a no-brainer watching the watching the coverage yesterday as you can hear every word ak's caddy is saying to him before he hits a shot why they're laying up where they're aiming what they're worried about i'm like it was so additive man and uh there there are some things that uh the the tour very much needs to continue to push the envelope on. If, if a lot of this, uh, Phil was right. This never would have happened without live stuff, uh, is, is to believe, you know, to be believed, let's maybe move some of that, uh, into the broadcast. A hundred percent. Like the Facebook, Instagram model, like steal, steal reels from Snapchat, steal, you know, just a hundred percent. Copy it, man. For sure. If I, a good thought exercise though, is if you go back 10 years and like, I mean, it's, I don't know what it, we had 5 billion 8 billion that we've put into live i don't know like yo check it out like ak is going to come back and win like in an awesome way like down in australia it's you kind of like might i think maybe that is worth not my money maybe we could look back if it blows up live like like you know cease to exist in the next 10 years it's like yeah but remember that ak thing maybe it was worth it that was really cool it does make me like genuinely curious to see how he follows this up in terms of like the next i don't i don't do not have a habit of checking live scores like i just there's almost nothing that can happen there that like honestly intrigues me but like i'm curious if he keeps this up i think i'll be checking thursday friday scores at their next event to like see all right what is it how is this a real sustained thing that we're getting from AK, that would be an equally massive story. I mean, this is an incredible one. Is this a one-off event? I don't know. It's hard to say. If I were to predict, I would say I would not expect a rise into the top 100 from Anthony Kim, but I was very wrong about all this from the jump. I said it was manipulative of Liv, and I was not a fan of the move to bring in AK from the jump because it just felt exploitive, and it felt, I don't know, just everything about it felt off but now we're sitting here kind of celebrating this guy's return to uh a glory in some way and it's it's hand up i was definitely wrong about how that one worked out for ak so i'll also say as a as a noted live hater uh that i am uh very funny to see rom finish second every week i just he just can't wait it's very funny it's very funny uh so yeah i don't i don't know what else to say about that but that was uh that was another just kind of kicking the nuts to him as he just you know a little bit of a scotty like i don't man it's getting frustrating i'm doing all the right stuff i don't know why i don't know why i'm not playing well today i don't know why i was supposed to be or i thought i was supposed to be the star boy over here yeah just very very funny stuff yeah it's it is hard to just go the next two events are live hong kong and live singapore which will be middle of the night and here in the US and no fan atmospheres if they're anything like they have been in the prior years like it just if your tour was like this it would be such a different conversation I really do think it would if you had a lot more Adelaide's if you're only going to have 14 events they kind of all need to be Adelaide's for your tour to be you know to get the respect that you so seriously demand in my opinion Cody yeah I just want a couple other things from the week to point out here uh aka almost didn't even show up there didn't have a visa and actually to to go work in australia for the week uh it came late i can't remember if it was monday or tuesday when he actually was able to fly into australia but kind of a wild holy cow that's it's weird how we got here moment and he signed with the team uh dj you're making the joke about maybe the greatest manager uh ever dj just just pulling the strings here and putting the four aces back together yeah dustin johnson trying to uh recreate p in the aggregate i think on the four on the four aces you know trying to uh trying to get a good a good money ball uh value pick on it on a.k a little bit of a scott haddenberg situation with anthony kim you know uh aces came in third this week uh legion legion 23 and second the rippers as tc noted came in first rom did have one of the most infuriating tios uh i believe it was it on the 18th hole it was his last hole i assume it was his 18th hole uh or the 18th hole at um uh in round three he blew it 70 yards left into a wrong fairway uh with a big grandstand around it and just got to drop like 75 yards out and then hold the shot uh which was he made it the worst i mean he did the same thing in the final round too he just didn't hold the shot it was so bad oh cody anything happen uh on the ladies european tour this week yeah we uh we ended a day earlier but back in piff world the the ladies or excuse me the saudi ladies international charlie hall won one over over aki eway and cassandra alexander charlie was on fire all right uh shot a final around 65 two bogeys um she was sitting way back over ey as she made the turn and then just went on an incredible run birdie eagle birdie par birdie par par birdie to win uh chased everyone down uh charlie had a couple good quotes at the end she said well after nine holes I ran into the toilet and got some mashed potatoes so I don't know whether that would give me like a little bit of power for the back nine or what but very interesting uh still not smoking though Neil I'm monitoring that for you strictly on this end so uh with her 750k win that she got she's like sweet I'm gonna pay off my house so uh she's riding high she's also the highest ranking that she's ever been in the Rolex rankings that moves or up to number three in the world. Currently sit at Gino 1, Nelly 2, Charlie 3. That's also the highest ranking that an English woman's ever been, which is kind of crazy to think about. And Charlie is there. So it's a lot of stuff going on at the old Riyadh Golf Club. Allison Lee was a little American. Big story there. Just golf clubs got stuck in Amsterdam. I don't know what airline she was trying to fly, but ended up playing the first two rounds with basically a rental set. She finished T25, shot 70-68 with those rental clubs. She just borrowed them from all over the place, a driver in Fairway Woods from the actual golf clubs rental bags that they have for rent, and then the irons, wedges, and putter from the GM or head pro at the club. And then by Saturday, she got her full bag back. But it's a cool story. She gave birth to a little boy last April. It's her four starts since coming back in the first since 2026. So we'll see what Allison does. She's going to play more LPGA events or just continue to play on the L.E.T. But I'm pretty high. Excited for the LPGA to kick back up to as we go to Thailand. Gino's going to have an incredible crowd there. And again, it sucks that more people don't travel over for the Asian swing because it would be sweet to see, you know, Gino, Nelly, and Charlie battling out at some of these events. Look out. Charlie Hall, debt-free Charlie Hall. Look out, dude. Debt-free. They've got to know what the interest rate was, you know, so not all debt's bad. I love hearing that. I'm paying off my house. Get me out of debt, baby. Freed up. She's freed up. LAT's off to Australia. Yeah, they got a week off, and then they have a four-week run in Australia to include the Aussie Women's Open in there. And then, as I said, Honda LPGA Thailand, Angel Yin defending there this week. And you got a couple of good names up top, but notables are definitely missing there. So Gino, the headline, of course, no Nelly, no Charlie, but kind of filling in the rest of the top 10 as we move through. But HSTC the following week, Asian Major, that's what they like to call it. There'll be a lot of good names there, but still no Nelly. Nelly's not traveling, not playing until we come back to America. We're chilling. In super, super fun global news as well, I believe this goes in the watch this space category, Sultan Ahmed bin Salayim, the CEO of the mega trade and logistics company DP World, resigned from his position after he was named in the documents of Jeffrey Epstein, who referred to the Dubai businessman as a, quote, close personal friend. Uh, he got got, uh, pretty hard has already been replaced, uh, as the CEO of DP world. This, I don't know what the effect is on the golf space. Uh, this was a, obviously this is not the deep, this is not the CEO of the DP world tour. This is just the sponsor, uh, of the DP world tour. And he's been quickly replaced here. This was circulating pretty heavily, uh, somewhat in golf circles, uh, in some way. I had this as a watch this space. I don't know if this, you know, I guess if I'm searching for a downstream effect, does DP World continue to sponsor the DP World Tour? Does this leave an opening for PIF to get even closer involved? The DP World Tour would be like puppet strings are kind of looking potentially down the road, but I don't even think it's a guarantee that this means anything specifically for the DP World Tour, putting aside the reprehensible nature of the things that were found in those files, obviously. i think we'll maybe keep it keep tabs on the trap draw for for more on this sounds like a trap who are you setting up there for feedback solly i don't i'm just i figured neil knows a lot of stuff about the world i thought he was gonna gonna do something with that like why i gotta be the one handling the epstein files here i mean it's just crazy it's like some of this some of these files stick on some people and they just get like you know vaporized and then others is just like yeah now we'll skip right over that one i mean it's just i i can't keep up solid i can't keep up with the files it's it's not good it's not good yeah i think i think confirming that you quote love the torture videos just and i was still awful that's what i'm saying like yes this is this is how it should go with everybody but i mean god just i mean so it's just a murderer's row pun intended of like just everybody's so freaking like h in the wrong wrong ways man it's awful on a much more fun note uh gary player where you want to go next is you asked me to comment that's my comment everybody needs to stop being so like aggressively horny and like just stop stop doing it just don't stop doing it i totally agree deal just don't actually when don't do any more under 18 just don't fucking do it it's like what are we a good lord all right please continue take me to gary player just to be clear gary player not in the epstein files that that concludes the epstein files related portion of tonight's program to my knowledge uh gary player not happy guys that he is unable to take his three grandsons out to play augusta national a lot of quotes a lot of quotes I forget who he gave these to. I apologize. Maybe I can get that here in a second. But his quote was, I've been an ambassador for Augusta for all these years, and they won't let me have one round of golf in my life with my three grandsons. This one's my favorite one. My grandsons are dying to know about their grandfather's episodes on that golf course, as if he has not told them everything they could possibly imagine already. They have to be out there on the golf course to hear them. All the golf courses that have hosted the Open, the U.S. Open, the PGA, but oblige, but they won't do it at Augusta. It is just the current management there. But these are the times we live in, and I accept it. But I accept it with sadness. He said, Bobby Jones was a wonderful man and a wonderful asset to a wonderful tournament, as was President Eisenhower, as was Clifford Roberts. Those three people, they basically made Augusta. Then Arnold, Jack, and I came along, and we fought it out every year. And then we made Augusta thanks to the coverage and publicity we generated around the Masters, whether the club likes to admit it or not. They won't admit it, but we made Augusta. God. I'll tell you what's not going to get your grandsons out there is calling them out in public, number one. And number two, this is classic. Like, Gary Player is one of us. He's just pissed because his club won't let him play in a fivesome, right? Because you've got to have a member. And so it's like, hey, you've got three grandsons. I mean, maybe they would have said yes if you, you know, you've got to chop it down. One of them has to sit out. I don't know, but to go public with this, I just don't think that's going to pan out well, Solly. It is funny that they made Arnie and Jack members of Augusta, but didn't make Gary one. And yeah, he's unable to bring his three grandsons out. But just true, this might be one of the highest first world problems I've ever heard of. I'm not allowed to host whoever I want to at Augusta National Club. I'm not a member of, but greatly enjoyed that one. Yeah, I got to, I don't know. It is a little weird to trot him out as one of the honorary starters every year. But however, the same guy that would go and give all these same quotes, like I'm going to guess maybe there's a little bit more going on behind the scenes. So hard to pick a side on this one. I'd also probably shout out Augusta here because they, I mean, you got to think they, okay, he's probably going to make a stink about this. And they're like, well, we're not going to let him hold us hostage. like we don't you know it's like don't negotiate yeah we're not doing it sorry man yeah the guy whose son was holding up golf balls uh to get sponsored during that open that honorary strike we're not gonna let you do that man the last time you had your family out here it didn't go well wasn't didn't he also get clipped for like selling signed merchandise and and everything else like that i mean this is a long history of player related stuff there is indeed a long long history of that but uh anything else from you guys before we move to wrap here uh we have i don't think so sorry i know i'm uh i'm stumbling just uh just another awesome awesome time to be on site right it's uh it's great to see everything that goes into pro golf it's great to see you know all the little micro moments that don't make it on tv it was uh it was very fun i'm glad i stayed uh stayed this weekend and got to watch some g in person i i do want to i meant to call this out earlier but one micro moment tc and i saw when we were on the 13th hole at spyglass uh we're over in the left bunker and russell henley's like in the in the in the fairway just a little bit behind us and they're him and his caddy andy were having a decently long conversation about the club and the wind was confusing a little bit front pin and you know we're just getting a real up close listen into all the the final checklist before they get into the shot and they're between clubs and it just kind of depended on what what the wind was gonna like make up its mind and do i'm like as russ gets into the shot he like you know not in not not in a bitchy or commanding way but like as he's getting into it he's like all right if this wind shifts more back into me back me off this shot like commanded it to his caddy of like as he's getting into it like if this wind changes in the next 10 seconds tell me and back me off and it didn't change uh in andy's estimation and russ hit the shot and it covered it was perfectly pin high like they just nailed the calculation but just that call to his caddy at the last second of like, back me off if this changes. I don't know. That was just a random nugget that I don't think I would have gotten if it wasn't fortunate enough to play in the event. And it was just really cool to see both him and Matt McNeely and his caddy and his brother Scout just work up close and just, again, just be super processors. I hate to like sum up the week of like, wow, PGA Tour players. These guys are good. Don't know if you guys know this, but like that was, even after doing this for 10 years, like watching it up close this week was just like, holy shit. Like both of those dudes are so good at golf, like so much better than like the 80th player in the world. Like the gap between like Mav and Russ and like the 80th player in the world is massive. That's, that was a takeaway. Yeah. So, uh, this week we have the Genesis invitation on the PGA tour. Of course, the magical Kenya open on the DP world tour with a Honda LPGA Thailand, uh, On the no laying up front, we got a full podcast episode coming out this week. The guys, Neil, Deej, TC, detailed their trip to Nebraska. A lot of people I know have watched that video over on our main YouTube channel. Thank you to those that have. If you haven't, please be sure to check that one out. It's some of the best work we've ever done. If you guys don't mind me saying that. We'll, of course, be live next coming Sunday for the Genesis live show after that play continues. And we, of course, had a ton of content hit this past week from Pebble. Please be sure to check that out. We did a bunch of live shows from on site. Had some great pop-ins and visits. Andrew Novak was an absolute gem. What a hit that guy was. We'll need to bring him back, I think, several times a year. He was a quick fan favorite there. Matt McNeely joined us. Johnson Wagner. Ricky Fowler, first ever appearance on the No Lingo podcast, joined that Wednesday as well. That wasn't a little bit of preview of Pebble in there, but that was a pretty timeless episode. You can go back and listen to that if you happen to miss it. We released a flying video with Matt McNeely on our YouTube channel. We also released a video with our annual bunch of questions with Jordan Spieth. We walked a couple holes at Spyglass with him. Neil got to get some bunker raking lessons from Michael Greller. That was an absolute treat that one was. And a bunch more content on our social channels as well. So please be sure to check that out. Anything I missed? No, it's Riv Week, though. Back at Riv, guys. It's been a while, man. So I always love watching pro golfers at Riviera. So I'm excited for this week. Yeah, it kind of sneaks up with this little back-to-back the way that it is this year. Weather does not look great, I don't think, for this week, which will be quite unfortunate. That's what I've heard. I haven't looked at it myself, but also my models are not TC's models, and I'm not allowed to use those in the program anymore. So I want to give a special shout-out to our friends at Titleist and FootJoy, of course to our friends at AT&T for having us out this past week to our friends at SoFi for helping us get our money right. And our friends at high noon for helping lubricate us here on this Sunday evening. Great spending some time with you to Cody running the ones and twos behind the scenes as well. TC checking in from his vacation. DJ stay in a couple of extra days to bring us the on-site reports there from Pebble beach. And Neil, I know it was a tough timing with bedtime tonight as well. Thanks to all of you. Thanks to all of you that tuned in live or listening on the podcast. We'll see you back here next week.