Summary
Rory and Mal discuss recent music releases including Chris Brown's new album and Don Toliver's hot streak, analyze the Drake vs. 20v1 situation and Rick Ross's involvement, and cover pop culture moments like Kevin Hart's Netflix roast and the AP Swatch collaboration controversy.
Insights
- Rick Ross's entry into the Drake beef appeared opportunistic rather than rooted in genuine grievance, revealing how artists capitalize on cultural moments for relevance
- Don Toliver has become the hottest rapper in the current era with unprecedented album longevity and streaming performance that warrants reassessment of earlier rankings
- Live Nation's monopoly on ticketing and venue ownership creates artificial scarcity and inflated fees that fundamentally harm consumer access to live entertainment
- Female rappers face disproportionate scrutiny and misogynistic standards compared to male counterparts, particularly regarding live performance expectations and career announcements
- Luxury brand collaborations with mass-market brands (AP-Swatch) signal a shift in exclusivity strategy that divides collector communities but democratizes access
Trends
Streaming metrics now supersede traditional chart performance as the primary measure of artist relevance and commercial successLive music pricing has become economically inaccessible for average consumers, with secondary market markups creating a two-tier attendance systemFemale rapper retirements are treated as permanent while male rappers' retirements are dismissed as temporary, revealing gender bias in music journalismLuxury brands are testing mass-market collaborations to reach younger demographics while maintaining brand prestige through limited releasesRoast comedy as a format continues to evolve with stricter boundaries around certain topics while maintaining edgy humor standardsDrake's reduced feature output is being weaponized by competing artists as a strategic advantage rather than a lossHouston rap culture continues to produce commercially dominant artists with regional sonic signatures that achieve national dominanceNetflix is consolidating comedy specials and roast events as flagship content, creating new comedy industry standards and compensation models
Topics
Drake Feature Economics and Artist DependencyLive Nation Ticketing Monopoly and Antitrust LitigationDon Toliver Album Streaming Performance AnalysisChris Brown Album Production and Track Count StrategyRick Ross Opportunistic Beef ParticipationFemale Rapper Career Announcement Double StandardsKevin Hart Netflix Roast Format and Comedy StandardsAP Swatch Luxury Collaboration Impact on Brand ExclusivityRolling Loud Festival Safety and Crowd ManagementLotto Retirement Announcement and Rapper Career LongevityPlayoff Basketball Performance and Team MatchupsLeBron James Career Longevity and Post-Basketball PlansTicket Pricing Inflation and Secondary Market ResaleRoast Comedy Boundaries and Sensitive TopicsMusic Streaming Algorithm Dominance and Chart Relevance
Companies
Live Nation
Discussed as monopolistic ticketing and venue owner controlling concert access, pricing, and artist opportunities acr...
Ticketmaster
Owned by Live Nation; criticized for convenience fees and artificial pricing mechanisms that inflate concert ticket c...
Netflix
Hosting Kevin Hart's roast special and consolidating comedy content as flagship programming with significant artist c...
Audible
Mentioned as sponsor providing audiobook and podcast content services
Boost Mobile
Wireless carrier sponsor offering $25/month unlimited plans with no price increases
Hard Rock Bet
Sports betting platform sponsor offering same-game parlays and live betting during NBA playoff coverage
Bask and Lather
Black-owned beard care company providing grooming products; CEO's sister inspired product development after misdiagnosis
iHeart
Podcast network distributing the New Rory & Mal show
Patreon
Platform where listeners can access ad-free episodes and bonus content for $5/month minimum
YouTube
Referenced for color series format and music video platform for artist content
X (Twitter)
Social media platform where Drake vs. 20v1 content was distributed and discussed
Wembley Stadium
Referenced in historical ticket pricing comparison for Michael Jackson concerts in 1988
People
Drake
Central figure in discussion about feature economics, beef participation, and album strategy during 2024 controversy
Rick Ross
Criticized for opportunistically entering Drake beef without genuine grievance, performing Drake records at 20v1 event
Don Toliver
Analyzed as currently hottest rapper with unprecedented album streaming performance and sustained commercial dominance
Chris Brown
New album release discussed with 27 tracks; analyzed for production choices and R&B direction compared to previous work
Lotto
Announced retirement from music to focus on motherhood; discussed as example of female rapper career trajectory
Kevin Hart
Subject of Netflix roast special; discussed for his comedy career and reconciliation with Kat Williams
Kat Williams
Appeared at Kevin Hart roast special; reconciled with Hart after previous beef, delivered strong comedic set
The Rock (Dwayne Johnson)
Performed at Kevin Hart roast; delivered standout comedic performance that dominated the event
Nicki Minaj
Referenced as influence on new female rappers including Trim; discussed as highest-selling female rapper with dominan...
Trim
New artist with viral boat song; criticized for breath control at Rolling Loud but defended as learning performer
Jay Electronica
Performed concert in Philadelphia that Rory attended; praised for quality of live show
LeBron James
Discussed for potential retirement timeline and post-basketball career options including ownership and commentary
Charlemagne Tha God
Mentioned for providing Drake album updates and leaking information about Future and Karol G features
DJ Khaled
Discussed for announcing Drake records without clearing them; analyzed as potentially capitalizing on Drake beef moment
A$AP Rocky
Mentioned as having ongoing beef with Drake; expected to receive direct shots on Drake's album
Cardi B
Referenced for long gap between albums and comparison to Lotto's retirement announcement
Sheryl Underwood
Delivered strong comedic set at Kevin Hart roast with jokes about her husband's suicide
Tony Hinchcliffe
Performed at Kevin Hart roast; criticized for lackluster set compared to his usual standard
Lizzo
Performed at Kevin Hart roast; praised for strong comedic timing and delivery
Michael Jackson
Referenced in historical ticket pricing comparison showing inflation in concert costs over decades
Quotes
"Rappers don't retire. Hustlers do."
Rory•Lotto retirement discussion
"I just think that that was really odd when I saw that that clip of him saying, don't do Drake's hook. And it's like, bro, why? He cleared the record. You're weird."
Rory•Rick Ross 20v1 discussion
"They need him. They don't stream well without him. Rappers don't stream well without hit records. And who's giving people more hits than anybody else in rap? Drake."
Rory•Drake feature economics discussion
"I just want to know why AP decided to do that. That's all."
Mal•AP Swatch collaboration discussion
"You can't be emotional at a roast. Don't even go up there."
Rory•Kevin Hart roast discussion
Full Transcript
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. No, warrior's mom. No. Conductible. No, warrior's mom. No, no, warrior's mom. You got a $50 bill, put your hands up. You got a $100 bill, put your hands up. Single ladies. I can't hear y'all. Single ladies. Make noise. All the chicken has to be clean. Why is it always a ladies that's not single that makes it most? To see you, all you do is start rumors and lies. No, I'm not saying you. Why is it that when that part comes on, all the ladies that's in there with a guy, like that boyfriend is right, he bought the ticket. You are screaming in the gear. I don't know if you need to do that either. You just chillin' while it's a show. You ain't got to be like... Yeah, it's like the most awkward, what are we, type question. You making noise during that part. And you don't find out that, you know what I'm saying, like that shit girl until like you go out somewhere and she introduce you. That's always fun. Like this is my man. Maul. You not never had me? I feel like men do that more often than women do that. Niggas ain't doing that no more. Niggas got to walk eggshell. You can't say this is your girl. You don't know who she be with. This is my girl. You sure? She was just here with somebody else last week. Shortest your lady? All right, fam. Yeah, you never want to do that in their responses. Word? Yeah, like since when? How long? Whenever they ask how long? That means they trying to do the math. They trying to like, last month she was just, all right, peace and blessings. I'm happy if you're happy. Yeah, as long as you happy, I'm happy. That's my new thing. When niggas do dry hating like that for real, you got like that, some shit like that will make me crash out. If I'm with a nigga and I be like, yeah, that's my man. They be like, where on y'all been together? Being funny, I got to crash out on you. Why? What if that's a real question? Because don't be funny, you hating ass nigga. Don't be a hater. All right, well, we are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Limited Talk, Text and Data. Merch is on sale now. It is. NewRoyalMall.com. And the Patreon is on sale. $5 ad free, correct? No? All right, check it out. You can get the audio ad free on Patreon for the lowest tier at $5. Okay, well, there you go. Plus bonus episodes, plus a whole lot of live streams. Please sign up for the Patreon. Listen, man. To make it wink tier for 50K. Yes. Never know who's going to make it win. No, no, no, not staff member. Just might be, you know, go through some videos, some damn videos that we got just, you know, post random stuff. All right, so we start with demerits and then where are we going? Like we can't tell who's the next staff member. I start with me. Start with one of y'all. All right, fam. Fuck you so well. Are we going to make it wink? Yeah, this the NewRoyalMall podcast. I'll show y'all last poll. It's not the NewRoyalMall make it wink podcast. I'll show you that much. Exactly. Oh. That's crazy. I went in my DM request on Twitter for the first time in a very long time. Live, right? Because, yeah, because I had asked somebody to make me a YouTube intro. So I was like, you know, people were reaching out to me. So I went in there. Mad dick. Like, why would you think it's sending mad hammer to my Twitter? That's weird. Has that ever worked? Huh? Like pics? Videos. I just like, has that worked? What do you mean? Has any man successfully sent a complete unsolicited dick pic to a stranger with no high and no nothing just their dick? Well, he's a high. And a girl was like, hey. Yeah. No way. Yeah, that's workable for you. I don't know. I mean, I ain't going to hold you one of those shit. I was like, oh, I'm going to say I see you. You know, like I see you. Okay. That means she'll sit on it. That's not. That's not what I'm saying. Whenever they say I see you, hey, Roy. Whenever they say I see you, because that's like, when you walk up on the blog, Roy, you got a French fit on and I see you. That means you killed that fit right there. That fit is fire. That's all the marriage was saying I see you. I know. The marriage. What a compliment, though. I mean, that would make my day. I see you. The marriage is so stupid. I see. And it's either video you had to work like it except right? Yeah. Well, I didn't know that. Well, yeah, he probably saw that. I saw it because this is why I have my reverence each time. Oh yeah. So I hit accept because he was like, hey, I just wanted to tell you, like he was being nice about something. Okay. So I clicked it. Oh, shit, dick. Damn. But what was he saying before that? Like what was the what was the nice, the nice message? He said like some nice man. I don't remember, but it was nice. So I thought he was replying to because also when people reply to your photos that you posted, it'll show up as like hidden as well. Like the photo will show up hidden. So like they can send you your own picture that you posted back and it'll show up as hidden. So I just clicked on it like I always know. I'm like, oh, wow. Sheesh. Okay. Sheesh. I see. But I see you. I feel like it's a shutdown though. Like I remember a dude sent me a picture of like him in the gym or whatever. I had a I had got went and got a boyfriend. This was somebody I used to date and I had went and got a boyfriend and I didn't want to be rude. So he sent me a picture. I went and got a boyfriend and I was like, I was like, okay, body. That nigga never responded to me. He sent me a because he do got a fire body, but I was in a relationship. So I just was like, okay, body. I see you. That's cheating. No to me. Wait, he sent you a picture of him in the gym. Like, yeah, him in the gym. I was just like, okay, body. And then he never responded after that. No. They take that as like an insult or like, I would take that as an insult. If you send a girl that you were dating, like, you know what I'm saying? On and off a picture of you in the gym and like she'd be like, okay, body. I see you. Like that's not. There was no hard eyes. Oh, this is somebody you used to date. Yes. Okay. I thought this was like just some random like, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Then that usually means she's not open for like, lost her. She can't pull up right now. She's seeing somebody. Yeah. That's the way you look healthy. Yeah. Yeah. You lost this one. Just got to accept the fate. Well, anyways, boy, how was your weekend? Mother's Day weekend. Mother's Day weekend. Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Thank you. Thank you to all the mothers. Great life and all that shit. The marriage said, thank you. Anyway, hi, the marriage. What's up? These bitches is her son. What's up? What you going through? You all right? These bitches is her son. Yeah. Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Hopefully all the mothers felt a little extra love this weekend. And you know, prayers to everybody whose mother is no longer here. Absolutely. It's an important day to kind of check in on your friends and people that no longer have their moms. It's a very, you know, emotional day for them. So prayers to those, to those who have lost their beautiful mothers. Yes. Well, I had a nice Mother's Day. Kea and I did the lunch thing with Amara and playground and, you know, it was a nice, nice, nice Mother's Day. Nice family day. Because you indeed made Kea a mother, so you should celebrate as well. True. I mean, they have a thing called Father's Day. I can just wait for that. That's what she celebrates with you too. You know what I mean? Yeah. But yes, happy Mother's Day to Kea. Thank you, Kea. It was a really nice day. Once her and Amara went to sleep, I had to turnpike though. I was out in the streets. I was in Philadelphia celebrating the next win. I went to the Jay Electronica show, which was a great time. It's a great way to celebrate. In a next T-shirt with Jay Electronica. No, it was a good time. I ended up just staying down there because I wasn't driving back. But yeah, it was a good show. I suggest anyone, if he's coming to your city, to go to the show. And that's my plug. Shout out to Jay Electronica. I forgot how much I like Philly though. Philly is a great city. It's crazy that it is only like an hour away and we don't go like often. I have more fun in Philly these days than I probably do in New York. If I could find like, you know what I'm saying, three things to do in Philly while I'm near, then I would spend more time in Philly. I have to have that like mapped out before. I don't really know. I've been sweeping their national basketball team. It's always fun too though. Oh, that was fun. That's a good idea. You know, the Knicks had a great weekend. But yeah, I need to find certain things to do in Philly so I could spend like a day in Philly. I don't really know a lot of people in Philly. So I can't call somebody and be like, yo, what's up, man? I'm coming down for the day. You're vegan. It's a great food city, but not for vegans. It's a great vegan city too. It's a lot of Muslims, big Muslim community. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot of pork options, but there's still plenty of... It's a big vegan community. Okay. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan. Vegan.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 they put in these rooms now, they just find young people to just fill up the room. A lot of these kids in the room were nine when some of these songs came out or 10 years old. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, I would rather be just the artist in the room kind of like how they have the color series on YouTube. And just like, make the production look dope and have them perform the songs. The audience makes it a little, just a little weird. Yeah. It makes it a little weird. I mean, they performed some records and some of them aged well, some of them didn't. But overall, it was a cool event, I guess. I just, I don't know. I think the versus thing for me is kind of run its course a little bit. So this was, if I'm not mistaken, this was the first time they ever did the voting system where someone could actually win versus before it was just the court of public opinion. But they had a system where you could vote for each record. And for those that did vote French Montana one, 10 to 9. But then I also see that Rick Ross performed, I'm a star twice. Whose idea was that? He performed Devlin in a new, in a, in a, is it blue dress or new dress, new dress, right? He performed that. It's also funny that I'm not a star lost both times too. I could see if you're, you know, you get a quick win when I'm not a star. Maybe let's bring it back. Yeah, he might have felt like he, he might have felt like he didn't get before. I was here, he's like, let me bring that back. Now you lost again. That's a great song too. But holy shit. Yeah, he did it against shot color in the first round. I was like, you know what, let's let me get a do over. Yeah. And still lost again. I forgot French Montana had freaks. That was my shit. That was my shit. What is work remix? Work. Oh yeah, you know that record. We can't play it, but you definitely know work. Sing it is funny. Sing it. I don't know that record. Sing it. I probably know it, but I don't be doing the name of shit. I'm like, I'm all with that. I'm terrible with titles or songs. Some of my favorite songs, I don't know the name. I just found out what the name of some record was. I was like, that's the name of it. Stand up. Oh, okay. You know that. Now to the stuff. Come on, you know that. Girl, hit in my tummy. Exactly. You know, shoot the world. Oh shit, sorry. Do we think they're going to continue doing this? Like was there a lot of viewers? Oh, I don't know how many viewers there were. I wasn't really paying attention. And then you could watch it on your phone. You could watch it on X now. It's different like platforms that you could actually view it on. So who knows how many people across all platforms viewed it. I don't really care about that. I was looking at the middle of America loves these. I'm maybe I'm only looking from my perspective. I'm just kind of tired of the verses. It was amazing. It was a legendary thing. I just I'm not stopping what I'm even if I'm doing nothing. I don't know if I'm bringing verses up. Yeah. It's just I don't I don't think it has the allure anymore. But they did do like a little press run. I saw they sat with you, bro. I did watch that. So it's good to see Ross and French friends together doing press runs and shit. But can we finally admit that Rick Ross is weird? Why? Why do you say that? And I know this is you say finally admit like we've been like holding that in. It's like what you mean? Finally admit like we did talk about this in the beginning after the like that thing and the 20 v one started. And I know we are the Drake bias podcast, but I'm speaking from a very objective place. We didn't put enough light into how weird it was that Rick Ross entered into that rap beat. Yes, what did you have to do? Why are you in this whole thing? And then you came up with an excuse that it was because Drake didn't clear his verse for French Montana's album, which made all the sense in the world because everyone was waiting for Drake to say something in the biggest moment. And it wasn't about to be a verse he did 10 months ago. And then French Montana is sitting next to him, going like I was fine with it. So what the fuck are you doing, Rick Ross? You're finding any way to just get in this shit. And now you tell me, I want to see you win on me. Shut up. But we shut up. He's one of my favorite rappers. He's hilarious. His disography is incredible. But that's some weird. Oh, yeah, like that's super weird. Yeah, but we knew what that was in the moment though. We said that we said it was weird for him to do that. We said he was trying to capitalize on the moment. He shot a video for the song with a bunch of ballet around him like people were trying to capitalize in the moment. Like we knew what that was. We knew what that moment was. Even if it's petty reasons, I understand the Metro thing and there's women involved weekend. There's X's involved and maybe Drake fuck someone's baby mother or there's some slimy shit going on with women because that's usually how things get to this point. Rick Ross said, oh, he didn't clear a verse for French. So fuck him. I'm in this now after he gave me all my number one records. Everyone else I understood why, even if it wasn't a great reason, and I understood why the 20 v one existed in everything in the history with Drake and certain artists. Rick Ross, who's his man's just entered into that beef because he wanted to. I guess I guess I'm saying it was called out, but it wasn't highlighted enough in that whole thing of why is Rick Ross doing this? So when he gets and is talking to Ebro, what was his quote? We want to see you win on me. I'd like shut up, shut up. Well, he can't say he want to see Drake win. No, nobody can backpedal because it's a lot of that going on. I guess can't slide. I don't want to see you lose fam. Well, I think it was deep in that thing because we are not, he was on that record with French. I believe. No, the leak exists. You could use to that. You know, it's just drinking French. Oh, so if Ross wasn't on it because I really thought Ross was on that record. Even if he was, okay. Yeah, but if he was, it would help. French don't even care. I know French doesn't care, but I'm just saying if he was, we know what that's about. It helps the artist streams at the end of the year. It looks good. We knew what that whole play was about. And this is what I said when I said people need Drake. They need him. They don't stream well without him. Rappers don't stream well without hit records. And who's giving people more hits than anybody else in rap? Drake. So now when I'm not giving you the verse that I'll use to give you because I'm doing other things. They have like seven classic records together. I'm sure Drake would have wanted to continue to work with Retrox. At some point, yes. But if Ross needs it right now. On a French Montana album? Yeah, but if Ross needs a verse right now and he needs to stream this year, his numbers this year, he needs those streams. Then you can see why Rappers would feel some type of way if you're giving 21 all these verses in an album, you're giving sexy red, you're giving this person that per. And then I can't get one. You can see how some people will then show their true colors and be like. Or you explain it the way it is. I understand. But the way the part to me is during the verses, when he's doing Drake's records, or the records that they have, he has with Drake, he doesn't want to let Drake's part play. But Drake had to clear those songs to be performed at the verses, which is I don't know if people know that or not. Like Drake had to clear those songs so that they are able to be performed. Which by the way. So if he's clearing it, meaning he's like, I ain't cool, whatever. Like even after you dissed them and did all of that, Drake ain't ask soul to be like, nah, fuck that. Like you can't. Although please don't do that. What? He cleared the song. Because he performed the record. I would have too. And Drake is petty and has every right to be petty. He didn't clear that out of good faith and good love for hip hop. I didn't say that. He did that. He cleared those to show all the other rappers, you can't do a verses without the songs that I gave you. Obviously. Obviously, but then why not? That was a petty reason, not a good hard and wise. For sure, but then why not just let my hook play then? Well, no, that's also that's really why I'm highlighting this is outside of just what he said with Ebro. I thought that was corny as fuck that Ross did that based off their history and how weird it was for him to enter that back. Like I could see it. People do that if there's some real bad history there. There isn't that history. You're just weird. Like I don't want to hear that. Like the fuck did he do to you? Yeah, but that's, but a lot of that was weird in that moment. Well, we know that now looking back two years. Like we know a lot of the things that happened was weird. A lot of the things that was said was weird. A lot of things felt like it came out of nowhere. What was that for? What issue does this person have with him? Like it was a lot of that going on, but it was also a moment for people to try to capitalize and try to, you know, gain whatever they could out of the moment. Like, and we said that when he jumped in and we was like, yo, bro, like I even said it. I was like, you know, just fall back. This ain't this ain't the time for that right now. Like I remember saying like, you know, this ain't this is a this is a one on one. Like they're saying we don't really need that right now. We don't care about what that is. Like we could do that after it just didn't feel right. It felt like you was trying to get in on it and capitalize in the moment. We said that. So looking back, yeah, it's like, bro, that was just a weird, a weird moment. And rappers are weird. So I mean, it's not like a surprise there. And I didn't want to make it like a Drake. I just thought it was really odd when I saw that that clip of him saying, don't do Drake's hook. And it's like, bro, why? He cleared the record. You're weird. Have fun. It's not even a defending Drake thing. It's just an observation of how odd that looks. Very weird. But it is Iceman week. So sorry, guys, we're going to be talking about Drake like that. One of the biggest artists ever. We're going to be talking about his album. So I'm not talking about Drake until the album comes out. Well, Charlemagne did this morning. He had he had Iceman updates. I don't know if you saw that or how accurate they are. I didn't. I'm not trying to. I didn't I didn't see. I laughed at the deep breath to inhale you to use like. I didn't I didn't hear Charlemagne's Iceman update. He said Future and Carol G will be on Iceman. He said that Drake got upset that he leaked that future was going to be on the album and kicked everyone out the studio. Now nobody's allowed in the studio because Charlemagne had leaked that. Also, he said DJ Khaled. Wait, wait, wait, backup. Drake got mad that Charlemagne leaked that. So the future was on the album. And then Charlemagne was in the studio. No. Oh, my God. After he leaked that Drake kicked everyone out of the studio because maybe there was a leak in there that told Charlemagne what was going on. And here's my thing. There's a mole. I can see that for like some real specific information. It's not really a huge bombshell that someone says futures on a Drake album. I think everyone can stay in the studio. Like that wasn't some exclusive. Well, other people have alluded to no one being on the Drake album. So. And in any other album, I would say that isn't a bombshell. But on this one, it's like, oh, so there are features, right? Because there was a big rumor that there will be no features on this album. I can't see that. But I mean, he also said DJ Khaled and ASAP Rocky are going to get direct shots. I mean, he's again, not shocking to me that he's going to say SAP Rocky. Everyone can stay in the studio. Why Khaled though? Since we're being on the weirdo side of things, where I thought Rick Ross was odd. Why does Drake have a disdain for DJ Khaled? I to this day have no idea. I mean, it was kind of nuts that Khaled said I have to Drake songs before clearing them with Drake, especially at that time. Like there's a lot going on right now. I'm not going to clear those records. But is there some history that I'm not aware of of why Drake would hate DJ Khaled? Like was Khaled is he working out to not like us or something? I don't know if it's that type of energy to us like asking him to do. He does it on Titchock. I don't know if it's like maybe maybe he just mentioned the whole Khaled thing. Like that doesn't have to be a dis. It could just be him mentioning, you know, Khaled's stance through the whole thing. Or, you know, but I mean, here's the thing, I like Israel and Palestine. Khaled's usually pretty quiet about things. And because he's friends with so many people, he does kind of just play the fence and stays quiet when there is back and forth. That's fine. No, I'm not saying there's well, the Palestine part. Yes, but there's nothing wrong with that. But that's why I'd be confused why Drake would maybe have an issue with him. Because I don't remember Khaled ever saying anything or picking a side. No, it's not. He's pretty neutral all the time. That's kind of why he's had the career that he's had in a good way, because he is cool with everybody. I don't think it's picking a side. I think it's him, the timing of him announcing that he has two Drake records. There was a little. Yeah, when he when he probably didn't reach out to Drake through the whole thing. And, you know, again, the whole trying to capitalize off of Drake and use Drake. I think, you know, Drake, obviously, in that moment, he kind of felt like, you know, and Drake is known as he's known. A lot of these guys don't like him. They just need him. And he know that. I just think he got to a point during that whole 2024 where he started recognizing it and then, you know, he just he turned he turned the water off. He turned the faucet off. And you don't think Khaled like straight, though? Not saying Khaled like straight. I know Khaled to be a real good person. I also know, well, Khaled can be very self-serving too, as well. Sure. So maybe that's the presentation is very important for a long career. Yeah. And but that's maybe why in that moment, Drake was like, no, no, no, no. Now you got two Khaled features, two Khaled, two Drake songs right now. Like, yeah. No, no, no. That's not the time, sir. Again, trying to capitalize off of a moment. And I just think that that was, you know, that kind of just, you know, kind of turned Drake off a little bit from Khaled. But I don't think it's a diss like I don't think he's dissing Khaled. He may he may just mention that whole moment. And, you know, just Khaled trying to use that moment to capitalize. And he thought that probably was wack. That's all. I don't think it's a down to he's only a 10 Khaled apart. Like, I don't think it's that. Yeah. Well, I mean, Rocky replied on his album. So I think it's still fair game to keep going. Oh, well, this is this. Well, this is different. Like, Rocky should wait. This is this is a little this is a little different. This is a little more attached to the Rocky thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that that's going to stop any time soon. No, I definitely see this. This is always going to be something with, you know, some some type of shots of scent. Well, sure. And I well, I totally see why Rocky feels way going and being objective. Like, I thought Drake's verse went for all the dogs. Again, I don't know what happens behind the scenes or who said what. Mm hmm. Where he would do that. But like that that verse was kind of crazy to me. Like, I get why this Rocky and Drake thing probably will never end. Like they both have crossed crazy lines for shit. So sometimes, you know, you need that sometimes. It's OK to not be cool and not fucking nobody no more smell. I just I just want good music. That's all me. Oh, good music is on the way. Trust and believe that. Well, I mean, some might got somebody's got to save the game. Now, a lot of retired. A lot of it. Fuck is hip hop going to do a lot of good music on. A lot of good music is. A lot of good music. I know I fuck with a lot of it. Shout out to Lotto, man. She's a retirement album. She announced 529 my retirement album. Thank you for everything. Listen, man, you know, she's a mom now. Like she's not like, you know, I love. Yeah, she don't want to. She trying to rap no more like she had his baby raise my kid. You know, it's the money. Y'all are funny. Why? Because your favorite line is rappers don't retire. Rappers don't retire. Hustlers do. Hope they didn't go over your head. So you think you think Lotto, you consider Lotto, one of the one of the hustlers who just got into rap just to make money. Lotto's a hustler. Yeah, I don't think she I don't think she loves to rap. I don't think I don't know what I was actually one of the girls. I was I'm like growing up not growing up hip hop, but like game shows trying to be a rapper since she was like eight years old. A good majority of the new female rappers I agree with you. I do think Lotto like likes hip hop. I think she would like would try to rap if it wasn't a lick for all the girls. She was in middle school trying to rap. You know, I think you're right with 99% of a lot of the new female rappers. But I think Lotto is in that that lot of love of sport. She love the sport. Yeah. Hmm. None. But we'll see. She may she may hold my thing true. She may not she may not be retired. When that baby turned about six, seven, six, seven is a long time. Maybe one six years in a long time. In hip hop. No. It's not a long time. Shit. And this day and age, that's not a long six months is a long time. And if y'all were, how long was Cardi going for? And every year it was like, OK, when's the album coming? When's the album coming? When's the album coming? And she was still putting out shit. And even still, that was an extremely long time in respects to Lotto. She doesn't she's nowhere near as big as Cardi was six years is a long. OK, so there you go. Time. There you go. It was different for Cardi. It was very different. Cardi had just won Grammy for best rap album. I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is Cardi had the fame to have the room. Lotto hasn't hit that pinnacle of success yet. Six years is a very long time. Like I would if she got retired, one, maybe two. But six is hard to get back after six. Now you need this one record. And it ain't hard. And this this is a lot of trash. It all here. All you got to do is make one good record and you write back on the top of the algorithm and the top of the algorithm, but not the charts. And that I mean, is she at the top of the charts right now? No, but that's but that's another thing. That's what I'm saying. Like she's been semi consistent and even still is not good. Good record. She does make a record. She put out a lot of good, you know, but I mean, she probably, you know, listen, man, is life kind of, you know, she's and then again, this we just talking. This may just be an announcement. And then two years from now, she's going to drop a picture on Twitter or Instagram and she write back like this is, you know, so I'm not putting too much stock into this, but I'm just saying her announcement is maybe it's because again, you know, she's having a family now. And, you know, she that's where her focus and her energy is. And music is the last thing that's, you know, on my first time mother, right? Yeah, the first one. Yeah. So, you know, things just, you know, it's a little different right now for her. She not really music and recording and, you know, because people don't understand, you know, the hours that it takes being in the studio and making music and recording an album and then, you know, doing press. And that's a lot, man. And I think as a first time mother, she not thinking about none of that shit right now that that requires the energy and attention that that requires. Like she's focused on raising her family. So yeah, I understand that announcement now, but in a couple years, she may get that itch again and the sound might change a little bit. It might be a new, new female MC that comes along that just might inspire her. Like, oh, shit, show these dope. Like, no, that should go and it should be right back. What happens when I no longer exist? Exactly. We have to see. We have to see. I hate it when she said that. No, he ate that. No, it's a classic record. Disappointed. When I know long it's just the fuck that I'm talking about. The fuck. Everything else we felt. We felt all that before. But the fuck this was like, all right, man, like, are you really that pissed off? Jay, more than that. He was fed up. Like, he ain't fed up, man. Where do you guys think this will rank like amongst retirement albums? Do you think it'll be up there? Do you think she'll have her fade to black moment? I hate when you do this. I hate when I hate when rappers say they retire. No, it's so disrespectful because it's only there. An artist that you do it to express. I like a lot of it. I've been picking women, right? Her whole career like you can like women and still be misogynistic. You only wait on the women, right? He only does that shit to female rappers or to the younger rappers. Yeah, to people you don't respect. You don't do that to nobody. He's going to traffic. You think it's going to rank like what do you do? I'm doing a lot of the same thing with Carisha. He did it. So are you guys ready? Here with Carisha has to say is disrespectful. You know that you don't really care. And then if Carisha sent a verse for his album, he taking it. Yeah, he's funny. Like you don't got to do that. I think she's great. I'm just trying to start. I would love to reunite the city girls on my project. Like you throwing shade and it's cool. But I'm going to call you out on it. So I'm not saying you've never hated on a male rapper. No, I'm not saying you've never hated on a male rapper. It's really misogyny, right? What I'm saying is no, he not. I'm not fucking with him. That is what I'm saying is. It's real. Is only to see that. You don't respect. You only do that to people you don't respect. You're being funny. Where do you think this is going to rank on retirement? I was you being funny. Well, it's a retirement album. So maybe he really want to know where it's making a month. Oh, amongst the rappers that have said this is my last album. Maybe he wants to know where we going to put big mama at. Because when she unretires, I'm going to say, oh, is this her kingdom come? You're not going to say that. He's not. He's not. You it's rage bait. It's rage bait. He's not going to say that. And if you do say that, just make sure I'm not sitting here. If you do say that, because I don't want to hear that. No, what is your record? Remember the kingdom come cover like it was? Yeah, it had like that glossy she could turn it and J would be like a different. Yeah, like Lotto could do that with her in 21. Hmm. Which you know that see, I don't like this because last episode or the episode before that, I said, I would love to hear the 1988 version of Lotto in 21 Savage together. I wasn't joking around. He did say that. I fuck with Lotto. She's one of the fewer new female rappers that I really like. Enjoy. She could really rap. Name your favorite Lotto song. Shine on me. That is it is. It is, but you don't know why he's being funny. What else? Why can't why? Why can't that be my favorite one? All right, I'm not doing this with you. What you mean? Why is that his favorite song? I'm not doing this with you. What you mean? I'm not doing this with you. That's crazy. I'm not doing it. Why can't that be my favorite? Because you're corny. You know, I can't say why it's your favorite. You're mad corny, bro. I'm tired of him, yo. I'm calling out all bullshit. Twenty twenty two calling the cap out. Yeah, I'm calling all cap out. All right. All right. So I. I can't bring up retirement. She announced her retirement. I didn't ask her. She did announce her retirement. And Lotto, we love you and we appreciate everything that you you've given to the game. And I'm not mad at you for taking a break. I also believe that rappers don't retire. So I'm not mad at you for taking a break. Oh, I said, now you on my shit. Yeah, go be a go be a go be a go be a mom. Enjoy your family. I'm not laughing. If anyone said that, if Nas said I'm retired, no, I don't believe you. I just don't. It's just what rappers are now. That's why I'm teased. Like, she got to get that. She got to get the same jokes that all other we give all other rappers. But I can't announce your retirement. I rolled my eyes at that tweet. Yeah, which I would do with any rapper that says that she like, no, you're not tired. You don't rappers don't retire. Yeah, you you you just realized that they ain't fucking with you no more. And they streaming your shit. And then you like, all right, I ain't gonna really that's enough. I'm not going to keep doing this. But that lot only got that problem at all. She streams well. Fans retire rappers. Rappers don't retire. So maybe she rap like, oh, this my last one. Knock it off, and this is not your last album. I do need to her and 21 out. No, I think they will sound good together. I think she also puts pressure on herself with that. I'm well, maybe not necessary, because maybe people just don't really give a fuck. But when a rapper said like. The black album had a movie. Like it would he did the garden show and brought everyone out. Like it's a moment when you retire for your fans. And I know Lotto has a lot of dedicated fans. So just saying this is my last project. All right, what the fuck you about to say on this? Because you got to say something like, what's her? What's her? My first song. What's her outro? What's her hopping? Had no motherfucking seat on his bicycle. You may not find out. We'll find out when it dropped. Have you all been listening to music? I have no stance in his path. When they had no visa. That's how she got 21 and no visa. Look at you now. An American citizen. Maul, your family reached out to me over the weekend. They are very concerned. It was just just notified that you are overpaying for your wireless right now. And your family is very concerned. I know because you could just unlock savings with $25 a month forever with Boost Mobile. It's a permanent price. It does not change. And your family is sick of this. I keep the same number. You can keep the same number, the same phone, and someone will come and just do it for you. They could come right here. Yes. He and the crew. Yes. So stop terrifying your family. I'm tired of getting these calls. They're concerned for you. This is an intervention. This is an intervention based on average annual single line payment of AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile. Customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited plan as of January 2026. For full offer details, visit Boost Mobile.com. I'm tired of you. You said, well, he listened to what? Have y'all been listening to new music that has come out? I did. I gave Chris Brown Brown one listen because it is a lot of music. And I was even kind of scared to come in today to have a take because it is so much music. I like the first half. It's still selfishly disappoints me that Chris puts out so much music on his albums. And I know his fans love when he's 27 records, 40 records. I know that's great. And Chris should serve as fans. But I selfishly just want to condense Chris Brown. It's not a long album though. No. There's like one minute, 30 records of shit on there. I just, it's so much to just digest. And he's obviously a legend. And I think he's one of the few legends without a quintessential album. And I was hoping that we get that on this. And again, I really like the first half. And there's stuff on the second half I like too. It's just so much. And maybe it's just I'm old and 36. That's just not how my brain works with music. Yeah, it just doesn't. It's some choice on it though. It sounds good. I ain't a lot. Chris, you almost lost me with the vibes record though. It was a lot. The vibes cartel. I ain't a lot. Chris, I don't want to hear you speak. Path to all my niggas. I ain't gonna. Oh, that's what was going on. Yeah, I don't want to hear that. I would hear that. I fucking Chris, you know, that's my nigga. But I know I was like, Munch, Munch, Munch, Munch. You don't get this nigga too much. Oxtail and Munch had this nigga in Jamaica. I know what it is. If Munch take you to Jamaica with Munch and she got you moving around. I would be. I would be like, I'm speaking like Chet Hanks right now. Yeah, 100%. I'm speaking. But it's like, yo, Chris, you're supposed to let that wail for a quick. You know what I'm saying? But I understand it. No, I don't do that because your man's your man's brought that into the game. Who just randomly speaking Potswai. He can speak Potswai for four hours and all of a sudden he come in and talk about man. It's different. It's different. It's different. It's different. That's different. I understand the history of Toronto. Yeah, it's different. Callie ain't got that. Callie don't even got good Jamaican food. I probably know the strength of Callie. Probably the worst Jamaican food I've ever had. There's one spot that's decent. I forgot to have a bit of it. Somebody has to take me to the hood to proper. But the Jamaican food I've had in Callie is just not. It's not. It don't really. But we're spoiled. Yeah, we come from the East Coast. It's different over here in New York. I heard it was different from like the different. The vibe of it is different from previous albums. One of my home girls is the biggest Chris Brown fan in the world. Like she our background on our text messages is an AI picture of her and Chris Brown on the beach. Like she's. She could just pay $15. She hates the album. She hates it. She hates the album. So I kind of she hates this album. He hates it. Why? I'm not mad at the new direction sonically. Because I felt like the last two projects where it was like 40 records and 35 records was the same fucking sonics for all 40 records. I wasn't mad that he a little bit all over the place on this one. I guess she likes that. She was like, I can't. She can't stand this one. And I was like, oh, OK, it's probably a little bit different. But yeah. But I heard a lot of people like it. I'm not saying it's bad because of that. But she's a huge Chris Brown fan and she doesn't like it. So it's a price. It's going to be good. I don't know. I'm a broken record with my Chris Brown takes. So that's that's why I'm coming today. I was like, do you like it? I like it. It's some shit on it. Do you like it more than 11 11? Which is previous. It's too soon to say that. To some. Yeah, it's too soon to say that. But the vibe of this album is definitely completely different from 11 11. No. OK. Like just the energy to vibe and, you know, the sound that he's going for us. It's totally different. Is it more traditional R&B than pop leaning? It's definitely more R&B than pop. Yeah, for sure. OK. But Chris is always good at blurring the lines with R&B and pop. Because even 11 11 is very pop driven, but it's R&B. To me and Beyonce, do that very well. That is a pop record, but this is also an R&B record. What's everyone's favorite Chris Brown album? The first one. OK. The self title is always be my favorite. What about you, Mo? You know, I know my out is that one. Pull up the covers for my baby. I got to go. I got to see the cover. The track list. I like graffiti. I like Heartbreak on a full moon. I like royalty. Fame will probably be my second favorite. It will probably be Chris Brown, fame and probably exclusive. Heartbreak on a full moon wasn't bad either, though. That was the one that was 45. Yeah, like I liked a lot of it, but it was so tough to go back to remember what I liked on it. And I think he released it. Indigo was good, too. Indigo was a good album. It's X might be my favorite. And quite as wide as it is up there. Royalty was the closest we got to a condensed like Chris album. It has like my my favorite narcissistic record of all time. K is the funniest record Chris Brown's ever put out. And it's also gorgeous. But it's it's very funny to have a baby on someone and blame her for it. It's look at the lyrics. It's the wildest story. Slime and be I'm a himmy thug wasn't bad either, though. No, his his Pai Ru album with Ray J is good. Yeah. But X X is probably my favorite Chris Brown. Faming graffiti are great. Eleven to eleven was good. I like what was the mixed state? This doesn't have a whack project at all. I just don't think he has the quintessential classic. That's like his his first. His first is his classic to me. I'm sorry. And that's a condensed album. His first album is a classic to me. There are no. Yeah. The album. It's just he was so young. First one is was the Chris Brown. Yes. Not a skip on it, bitch. There probably isn't. And it ages amazing. Like you can go that fucking album is amazing. I mean, Say Goodbye is a generational R&B song. Yeah. So is popping. Like all of those songs are fucking amazing. Like ain't no way plays at every R&B party I go to. Like that's a classic album. Yeah. No, you're not wrong. I just think why never say that is because I was 15 when this came out. I feel like adults at that time probably didn't view it as a classic. But I hear you. I mean, yo is one of the greatest R&B songs ever. Yeah. That's a perfect album. Yeah, man, a me dirty Mac and Hall of Fame. And he fly. He don't even drive. No, the ad lives in the back is repeating. He ain't me is fucking the most dirty Mac and shit ever. Don't don't whisper that shit in the ad lives that I could hear just in my right headphone. Fucking classic, man. He ain't. For show. But yeah. But no, congrats to Chris Brown. I just I need more time with that to give a proper, proper review. I like it. 20 27 records in one weekend. I would be doing a disservice to one of the great. But I also think that like. I get like I get that for rap albums. I don't really feel that way about R&B albums. Maybe it's because I grew up listening to Janet Jackson albums that were always that long. I don't feel like that's super. I feel like it's long, but it's not that bad. It's twenty seven tracks, but it's it's a short album. It's like an hour and I think thirty minutes or something like that. It's not like a super long album. Yeah, like I don't think that that's that long for rap. That's that's too long because rap has more words. That's way too much like shut up. But for R&B, I don't think that that's that bad, especially because there's probably an interlude or something in there. Like some short. Yeah, hour and thirty two minutes is not long. Yes, not bad for our album. I guess I wasn't mad at it. Like I definitely I like that. Now, if it's a lot of features that can become a little overstimulating for me when it's like a lot, like every song that features a little overstimulated. The Hennie and the Honey Pack had me dying when I came on. I was like, all right, Chris, what you want, bro? That's the song in there. Hennie and Honey Pack. Is it good? No, the song is good. I just think it should have been named something else. But the hook is Hennie and the Honey Pack. Like I'm just I laugh when it came on. I'm like, yo, Chris, you got to chill, though. OK, OK, is it relatable? Well, I never did. I never did Hennie and the Honey Pack, but I'm just saying like I just think Chris is just like Chris Brown shouldn't be his hook on his album. Shouldn't be Hennie and the Honey Pack. Like, but I get it. It's reflective of the of the time. Listen, he live in his arms. Be I ain't mad at it. The vibes record is the only record that I had that threw me. That was the only record I was like, I bro. Yeah, I'm hitting much much got to keep you out of Jamaica. Like you can't keep going on Jamaica or much like she got you going crazy. Have y'all bought y'all tickets for the for the tour? No, not yet. For Chris and I should not have. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for that. Live Nation. Court case to finish the son off to pay the fees. The marriage. The marriage thing that we ran to the site, so it was open. It was like, yo, we got to get the the CB and usher tickets. Yeah, you. I'm saying niggas is getting too much money. They buying resell my bad. My bad. No, I didn't that. It's just that I wasn't I wasn't rushing to get like running to get the tickets. And that live nation lawsuit, they're trying to get get rid of that that you could only resell what you paid for. Oh, really? Yes, I'm waiting. It's the opposite of getting money. I'm broke. You're trying to get a problem. I want to pay the regular price. I didn't know that that was a lawsuit that was going on right now. It's a really big one. But I mean, I always want to talk about this stuff, but I feel like a lot of our listeners, like that's something I enjoy to talk about, not what people want to hear about. But yeah, follow that lawsuit. It's getting kind of crazy. They're trying to say the live nation is a monopoly, which they have a case. They could just buy them tickets themselves and just they own the venues, the promoters, deals with the artists. Like, yeah, no one else can. They bought up all the small venues. Yeah. Irving Plaza is a live nation. Oh, that's crazy. So if I got if I got to go tour and I'm doing 500 seat shit, I have to go through live nation. Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. And then they're also overcharging us with fees that don't even really exist. Like I'm not paying a convenience fee. It's not convenient that this. Yeah, who the fuck you talking about? Yeah, and it's hard to, you know, used to be able to go to the box office and just buy tickets. They've made that weird now. Yeah. So definitely if you're in a nerdy shit like me, go look into that case. It is very interesting. There hasn't been a verdict yet. And I know there's multiple lawsuits within the lawsuit. It's going to be one of those at last. I think, you know, two or three years before we get there. Oh, ticket masters included because oh, live nation owns ticket master. Yeah. Know that. No, so it's a monopoly. Oh, I know that. That's 100 percent a monopoly. All right. So I think get away with all these these random charges that they make you pay when you buy a ticket. So that's because I was one out when I asked my little sisters and I'm what they pay for the usher and Chris Brown tickets. And they were like, we're like four rows back and we paid eight hundred and fifty dollars in Syracuse. And I looked at them like cross-eyed, like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, are you eight hundred and fifty fucking dollars? Well, they were probably five hundred. And then when they got to check out, it became eight hundred. Is the taxes and fees, you know, that's that's even even with like inflation. That's fucking insane. Yeah. The two days. The good side. But if I mean, if any show is going to be a hundred bucks, I usher and Chris Brown, I sort of that's a lot. That is that is too much to see. That's that's live music. I mean, I think Chris Brown is worth it. I think it ain't worth eight hundred and fifty dollars to see no artist is worth it. For a shot. I think I think we've like, you all know, like, Constan, Niggas was was watching Michael Jackson for a hundred dollars. Michael fucking Jackson, one hundred and fifty, two hundred dollars. Yeah, that's that's right now. Yeah, but the niggas was all the way in the back, though. No, bro. Nobody had nobody paid a hundred dollars for a front row Michael Jackson ticket. We're not doing I'm sure there was an all the way in the back. They might have been in the middle. In the middle. Niggas was up there with Messier's Jersey, man. Niggas wasn't in the front row to see Mike for a hundred dollars. Man, you're crazy. Look, pull it up. How much is the tickets? Ryan's pulling it up right now. Man, Niggas was paying thirty dollars to see Michael Jackson, bro. Where was they sitting at? It don't matter. You can't that's your role, first of all. Yeah, that's seventeen fifty euros, which back then was like what twenty three twenty thirty five Wembley Stadium. Them niggas, you know, them niggas couldn't even see Mike. They heard him. They couldn't see him. Seventeen fifty at Wembley Stadium 88. Nigga, right. Seventeen dollars in I.T. 88 is the equivalent to forty seven dollars now. Almost almost triple, almost triple. No, that's kind of even if they were in the last row. Like the last row now is fucking four dollars. That's listening for Chris Brown and Usher. They're going to put on the show. And shit, looking at what festival stuff is, Woodstock was 18 dollars. Damn, that's a buck sixty right now, which I got. You could get a festival tickets for one hundred sixty dollars. The hell yeah, you can. Yes, like Roots picnic, though, where Jay-Z is performing. It's pretty. Yeah, but when people was buying their tickets, when they put up the prices of them tickets, like people ain't know Jay-Z was performing. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Yeah, but I bought their Roots tickets before they had a shirt. They felt like they always have a crazy headliner. And for two days, that's not a bad. That's great. Yeah, for two days. Yeah, like 60. I mean, when I started to like win is because I might pay a buck sixty to see one artist or a buck sixty to see seventy five. Like I'm paying that buck. Sixty like, yeah, it's definitely a good deal for sure. Yeah, I don't know. Even when I pay Beyonce, a seven hundred for Beyonce and I was front row, like not front row, but I was in the front on the floor seats. I was like, OK, that's high. It's high, but it's Beyonce. It's Renaissance. It's a moment. But I can't see myself paying seven hundred dollars for any other artists. Eight hundred dollars, nine hundred dollars. But they were willing to pay a thousand. I was like, that's fucking insane. The demand of production value is crazy. Now it's like Mike, everything I've watched is Mike being an incredible dancer and vocalist and they were incredible shows. But when I saw on the run, the stage went from one side of the field to the other. Like the production value you have to put into stadium stuff to justify. But I watched Chris Brown fly around MetLife. Fly. Yeah, it's going to it's going to cost a lot to make that show happen. Sure. Baby, are you ready to apologize? Because you kind of like went crazy on me when we saw about the hottest rapper list. That was the quintessential reaction from a woman when you say, are you ready to? Well, I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Yes, why would you ever like you would never. And I said, and I named Don Toliver. I didn't say that you were crazy for saying Don Toliver. I said that. Now you told us you were like, yo, I was in Houston for a week. They ain't no Don Toliver. I want to apologize to. OK, because I was on most of let's. I'm not disrespecting Don Toliver. What we got into it back and forth about was that at the time, the date where they stopped the list, right? Because you because they had J Cole higher than Don Toliver. And at the date they stopped the list, which was a little bit after the fall off came out, I said, Don Toliver at the time of the list was not hotter than J Cole when the fall off drop. I don't think that that's a crazy take and I'm not apologizing for that. He was hotter than he's hotter now. OK. He hasn't let up. I'm not. No, Don Toliver is. No, the numbers are like they should be studied. I've never seen an album maintained in this era the way I say. Yes, Don Toliver is probably the hottest rapper right now. Fucking nuts. He's been the hottest rapper hotter than J Cole in the fall. Have you also have you listen to that's just my opinion. I'm there are some of it. But that's also like usually when when albums do this shit is because the kids and his music I fucking hate that octane album is incredible. Like it's the best album this year so far. I'm not mad at that. Take it all. It's really good. I'm not mad at I'm not mad at Balls take either. But I'm also I'm not apologizing for what I say because what I said still makes perfect sense. No, it doesn't. He was. J Cole was never hotter than this thing. OK. No, the I mean the week of the fall off. J Cole was the hottest rapper. So you think they based it on that week? Not even that week leading up to the fall off out outside of sales because obviously before the fall off the fall off hadn't come out yet outside of sales. Yes, everybody was talking about J Cole. Y'all might have talked about Don Toliver on this motherfucking podcast once or twice. But I'm talking about J Cole for two months. Like I don't think what I said is crazy. If you're talking about that. An anticipation for that time. Yes, Nick has been waiting for the fall off since the fucking beef. Like I'm not. I don't think that that's crazy. But shout out to Don and he deserves everything that he's getting. The music is good. And he is hot as fuck. He is probably the hottest rapper right now, for sure. Probably. Probably. Yeah, I would have to look at some shit. But yeah, I'm not mad at somebody saying he's the hottest rapper. Did you see his role in the house? No, I didn't watch any of the role outside of trims. I didn't watch any of the role in all six. He's selling like this. Look at one of those clips. Just one. Actually, just look at when he came out. But he was hot when we saw his show. They went crazy when we saw him in America that year. Remember that? And he's probably. Double as popular. Mm hmm. Since then, maybe even triple. But no, I did see clips from the set. It did look great. Shout out to him. He love he love a forest on stage doesn't he? I'm why is why is Don Toliver always in the woods? I mean, you know, it's that octane. Is he from Houston to where's Don Toliver from? He's from Texas, I believe. OK. That's great. I mean, well, shit, shout out to Rowling Loud, because that's crazy. He's from Houston. That's correct. And it was a nonviolent Rowling Loud, right? Everyone in the city of Orlando was safe. I haven't heard anything. OK, love to hear that type of stuff. Yeah. Calls for a way to get a shot. OK, well, a college full play got shot at Rowling Loud. OK, was that like Florida State shit or was that rolling loud? Yeah, there's somebody recognized him as like a rivalry or something like I don't the rest of Rowling Loud is like, I'm glad he's OK. But yeah, hopefully he is OK. Playboy Cardi security. What is regular? Yeah, that just sounds like, you know, that's something that should happen at the festival. He was shot. I think that's part of Cardi set. Yeah. He's what? The Ahmad Hardy was shot from the Missouri running back was shot in Mississippi at a concert. He was not at Rowling Loud. He's trying to put that on RL. He's trying to put it on RL. Don't do that. RL's are, you know, I mean, they run a very safe establishment, man, very safe, safe. Well, there's a Rowling Loud movie. Oh, is there? Oh, congrats. Yeah, of course. I mean, it's one of, again, not my cup of tea with a lot of the artists they have on there and the crowd that goes, but it's it's definitely one of the most iconic festivals in hippo. It's going to be a comedy film. Owen Wilson, Matt Reif, Christine Cole, Owen Wilson and it's it's script. It's upcoming American comedy film written and directed by Jeremy Gerlich. The film stars all Wilson, Christian Convery, Matt Reif, Christian Cole, Henry Winkler and Olivia LaCardi. Wait, so it OK, is it happened to be called Rowling Loud or this is about the creation of Rowling Loud? It's I think it's inspired by this social network or inspired by true story. This comedy is the story of an overprotective father who attempts to bond with his 13 year old son by sneaking him into the Rowling Loud hip hop music festival. Oh, this is going to be. Oh, no, that's that. That actually sounds like a great. That's some heroin and cool margo to White Castle, but for. Yeah, Rowling Loud. Well, yeah, and good for Rowling Loud, because I know that's going to bring this city live nation productions. Right back. They right back. And all it all comes together. You know, they wasn't going to get PC. He thought it was a good year. They probably own regal, too. Shout out to live. Oh, we ain't got no choice. I was about to say that we got like that connects there. Shout out to live nature. We'd love to do a Rowling Loud, you know what I'm saying? Invite us. I'd be so scared to just be in the Rowling Loud crowd. Really? It just it just scares me. I don't know. I feel safer in in a Crip neighborhood in Flatbush. Young kids on drugs terrify me. I don't because they're they're unpredictable. You have no idea what's going to happen. But they are the slow drugs. Like I don't think Rowling Loud smells like Coke. Like I like Rowling Loud smells like lean and wheat. I don't know. You think they ain't doing coke at Rowling Loud? I'm sure they are. But you know, Rowling Loud books a lot of alleged gang member rappers. And I think they're the least scary people there. I think them twelve year old white kids are way more terrifying than everyone on that stage. No, I want to go. We should go in here to Rowling Loud. I mean, they they had them in New York for years straight. Because I think this Orlando was the only one they're doing the shit right then they pull back a little bit. Yeah, because they was doing one every other every other Tuesday. They were doing see exactly. They hit that girl with a whole recycling big. Yes. Yeah, but it was empty. What the fuck? It's not that heavy. She that's why they could throw it the far. It was empty, man. It's just like getting hit with exactly the nurse. I know. When I'm in a gang neighborhood, what can happen? There is some predictability there. I would be standing watching Don Toliver and a fucking recycling bin would hit my head. No, I don't want to be there. We go viral. No, I'm cool. So what would you guys say if I went viral for being hit with a recycling bin? Thank you for your sacrifice. Would that get us to the next level? Probably. Honestly, if you streamed it, I'm not mad. That's just a good old fashioned fair one. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't shit on Rowling Loud for that. That's that's fine. That's just, you know, always will be boys. It's that guy jumping up and down with the cat mask on that I'm more scared of. Not these two guys having a fair one. Have you guys heard of the artist trim? She's one of the kids and are keeping up with the kids segment. The artist trim. No. So she has that boat song that's like went super viral and everything. And she gets a lot of Nicki Minaj comparisons. So they were on her ass hard for my god. She looks like a mini Nikki. Yeah, they were on her. And if you hear the song, if you hear the way she wraps it, this, yeah, they're like kind of trying to make her market her as a young Nicki Minaj. Jesus Christ. Is that her child? Like for real? You've heard play this song real quick. We'll take it out. But that's a Nikki clone. But then but then again, respectfully. A majority of a lot of the new female wave is it's Nikki's kids. This one is like carbon copy shit. But with a lot of the the the bigger female rappers that that go in that lane, I'm not saying like a little Sims Rhapsody that that world. It's Nikki's DNA like everywhere. Well, if you want to if you want to sell records and succeed, you have to look at Nikki's career. She's the highest selling female rapper. But I'm even like saying down to cadence, like everything is kind of derives from Nikki in that world. I think with her, yes. And with some of them. But I think with the newer the newer female rappers, they're all from the south and they sound like they're from the south. I think it's a little bit different. Oh, yeah, I'm don't she has her moments where she sounds like Nikki. But I mean, don't she's admitted that there's nothing wrong with being influenced by Nikki. She's one of the greatest. For sure. But I think the South has. Doja has Nikki DNA everywhere. Like it exists with the bigger female rappers in my opinion. I'm not saying every pussy rapper sounds like Nikki, but I'm saying the her DNA is all over the sport. You can't deny that. But this one is dudes that rap like Nikki. For sure. But this one's found. You know, I'm like, if we keep it in a book. Dudes rapping like Nikki is fucking hilarious, man. What do rap like Nikki? I'm not saying it. No, I think it's cool, man. I'm rolling out. Keep it up with the kids. Maybe I missed it. Maybe my idiot pick up Nikki bars and Nikki flow. I just need to hear what you know what who was inspired by Nikki on the on the male side of so saucy Santana. So you said Trim did what now? She did. I'm not listening to him. Trim did what? So she's saying it makes a really good music. No, I agree. I'm really just fucking around. So with Trim outside of the Nikki comparisons of like the song when the song first came out, the pink hair, whatever that she came out with, whatever. They're killing her because of her lack of breath control. She's shouting the lyrics. And I just felt like they were being a little hard on her and like they do with newer female rappers because Rolling Loud is a big fucking stage for somebody who has one viral hit. And it's like they throw you on the rolling. I'm not a performer. It takes years to learn that. And the world is misogynistic. I agree to Maris. I'm not letting you add that they kill everyone. A rolling loud that stinks. Not just they killed ice. By some of that. But she's a lot. That didn't really help my point. Yeah. Yes. What? Why? I'm saying they kill men, too. That that suck at performing rolling on. Oh, yeah, they just killed. What was it? Rake, rakey, blackboy Max was fucking booed. Like, yeah, I don't know. I was like, Max made music. That's this. Just platform when he streams is making music. He has other artists come in, too. But yeah, he's like, OK, which I think is cool. He's one of the only streamers that does that. I think that's actually really cool. I didn't know that. I mean, like his music isn't like my shit, but I do respect that he adds that element into streaming. But with that said, I don't care how young the artist is or whatever. You should get killed if you're rapping over. Your song, like if you're the lyrics are there, yeah, you should get killed. Like what's the little Nikki girl? Tram's Tram. OK, she should get killed. That's awful. What's his guy? Why can't we can't we can't hold artists to high standards? If I if I'm paying eight hundred dollars to go to a fucking concert, I can't hold an artist to a high standard that you please don't rap over the track. Like know what you're doing. I don't even think it's the rapping over the track. That's not what she could kill. All the rappers rap over the tracks now, all of them. And they should all get killed for it. I don't I hear you as long as I can hear you over the track. As long as I can hear you over the track, I don't care. And listen to the song in my car. If there's a back track. Yeah, now rappers can't do that. You got to hear you. I used to do the same way. Maybe but like the verse, I don't want to hit that. I had the TV track have just the last bar. So in case you fuck up just to find like it's the ad lips. Yeah. But the vote, the lead should be you. You sure? I don't think we're being get off my lawn here at all. Like we should hold music to some music to some fucking standard at some point. I paid to see a show. I didn't pay to hear you fucking do karaoke. Yeah. What I don't think that's crazy to ask as a fan that I want to see you actually rap the song. What I was saying was they were killing her and I feel like they killed it's not just her, but they were killing her for having a lack of breath control when she was rapping. She was running out of breath running across the stage. I'm like, that's she's she just has one song. Like, yeah, she's not she's not. Yeah, she got this is her learning experience. She'll learn from this, you know, I'm saying. And hopefully she'll get better. Yeah. But I don't think you can call a rapper trash because they're they have one hit song and this is their first big show in there. They're trying to run across a rolling out stage and they're running out of breath. Tell them to get better. But yeah. No, you can call him a trash performer. I'm not saying that she doesn't have time to get her and get better or anything. But even when I spice went from unknown to two weeks later on the wrong loud stage, like I get it. That's nuts. And I wouldn't even know how to do that. But I can still say it's trash. Like, yeah. Well, I feel so with ice, I suppose it was a little bit. And I get it. Don't miss the look either. I get like I'm not saying you should say no to it. Yeah. Ice is thing was ice. I remember people used to complain that ice was boring. It was like ice used to just kind of sit there and. And everyone was waiting for her to twerk. This one was had a lot of energy and because she's not trained, when you have a lot of energy and you're really performing, you will run out of breath very fast if you don't learn breath control. And that was the issue. It wasn't like you're not trying, but you run out of breath because you're trying so hard. Yeah. Or where to hold the mic on certain bars, how far to keep it away from you when to bring it like. That takes a lot of time. Yeah. It does. But I also. Don't think that means everyone in that audience should give her grace. Like, oh, she needs to learn breath. Well, it was the people. Shut up. The people that were complaining were the people on the internet. On the internet. People at the show. It's never the people at the show. Everyone's high in the ground. Yeah. Too busy throwing a cycling. They don't even know who's on stage. Well, that could have caused this bitch has no breath control. They just throw a recycling. Them kids don't even know the. The kids are all drugs, man. But I don't know. I do think we should still hold the artist to a stand. Oh, I don't care how much time. Absolutely. And they're like, I mean, at least that's the least we could do it. Like we let them do everything else. Can we still hold them to some type of standard? Like when it comes to live performance, I mean, they don't got to be talented no more. They got to be have bars. They got to be dope. We don't took that off the table. Like, no, I just, you know, just vibes. We just want you to vibe. You ain't really got to say shit. We gave them that. Now we don't care if the live show sucks or not. Come on, man. Yeah. But I'm not putting too much stock into Trim not having a good rolling out performance because she's a she's a new artist. Big stage to try to cover at Rolling Live Festival. You know, like. And she was trying. I'm cool with an artist not having a good show. If I see them trying, if your issue is you're running out of breath because you're trying so hard, I'm not mad at that. No, I want to see her. I want to see her next year this time. Yeah. Next year this time, if it's not not any, you know, development, any growth in her live performance, then it's like, I showed you like we saw you last year, rolling live. We gave you grace because, you know, it's your first time out. But take this moment, learn from it and build on it. That's all. Why were they throwing garbage at Blackboy Max? Admittedly, I didn't like pay that. I think that's something they do. They throw water bottles at it. No, clearly we see they throw recycling bins. But they just throw shit. That's what it means to throw it all the trash. Throwing loudest. Throwing loud. Throwing loud. Wait, somebody commented and said, why they throwing his music at him? I think it's terrible. That's why nobody want to do like shows now. Because we got to see this type of shit online after that. Yeah, they said another another streamer went up there and got booed off the stage. She came to like turn the crowd up. He got booed off the stage. That was Rekhae. They booed Rekhae ass. That was the one clip I saw. I was like, damn. No, look at Rekhae. Look at Rekhae. Look how he came out. He thought it was love. No, we're not fucking with you. What did he do? Damn, how he pissed the people off. They wasn't fucking with Rekhae. I don't know. Is it is it because their fans don't lead a house? Like their real fans don't lead a house? So it's a different. I could see that different audience. Just like control stream. See, then is that got guys on stage that's not really artists? Well, he wasn't performing. Oh, he came to turn the crowd up like kind of like, you know, like an emcee. Like he's hosting. Oh, that's what he was doing. I thought he was performing. Yeah, you got to boo in the emcee is crazy. Buying the nigga that's trying to just like introduce somebody. Buying the guy that says, yo, make some noise if you're in college. Make some noise if you say you. Ryan, play it. So I can hear. I respect that he did that. The boo. Yeah. Orland, or land got no love for Dr. Trance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Death row. I don't love. In under armor. Yeah. But you got to understand. The baby set the standard so high for make some noise at Rolling Loud. Once you say make some noise, you think sucking man's dick in the parking lot. Yes, I'm from there. Rolling. Yeah. The bar is here. Yeah. That's what happens. So now everybody else is a disappointment because with the baby did was unprecedented like fat man scoop started. We make some noise if you have five dollars in your pocket. And the baby took it to a whole. It's like the whole level. Can you imagine like standing next to your homeboy and he'll make noise? When the baby acts that. Yeah. Oh, then I got to ask my maids is something he wants to talk about. Like, especially because we drove together. That's because we in the same car. It's like, why you ain't making. You are tapping and like make some noise for people. Think something like, come on out. Yeah. Scream, nigga. In which that that puts you in a position to because we've talked about on this podcast many times, we're not the people that yet like make some noise at concerts. We're not those people. No, no, he would pin me in a corner there because I'd be like, fuck, no, I got a screen. Yeah, yeah. That'll be the one time I make mad noise like, nah, me and Rory ain't doing none of that. Yeah, fuck that. They applied. But Max had some video outside of Rolling Loud where he had a little zest, a little zest in his step and somebody commented, why is being fake gay the newest thing that knew they've been on that? That's been the way. Yeah. I don't know. Playboy Max's sexuality, but he had a video that people were questioning. I don't know enough about. I'm not. I don't want to put that on anyone. Yeah, that one. Oh. Oh. He good at it. But what is what is that? That was the Maristaz version of I see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that, though? What is I don't know? Is that the song? Oh, yeah, Trim has a new song called Cold Nut Water. But I don't know if he was just doing his thing. Is that a move? It's not viral in over my algorithm. Oh, OK. I thought I was like a dancer, something. I've seen certain men vibe to Nicky's music the same way. And they never. 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Yeah, they sleeping outside right now for that shoot. You serious? Yeah. That's. Because you know what they're going to do? It's a five hundred dollar watch. They're going to try to flip it for like five thousand. You know that, you know, it's great to have. I miss when G-Shox were popping because I could afford them. Well, this is the new G-Shox. That's the new G-Shox. Oh, the 16 year olds going to need that for they sweet 16 this year. What the AP swatch? I mean, I did see rich people very upset about this. Now, it does. It does. It does devalue the brand of it. Yeah, I'm about to get rid of my AP. Yeah, right. I have to. I can't do that. You have. You have to get rid of your AP. I have to know. All right. When you get rid of it, show me what trash can you throw it in so I could grab it? No, not throwing it out. I got to get something else now. Because they did this? Yeah. But you don't have the swatch one. You have the regular AP. I know. So Jeff Bezos and Jay-Z and them are not upset about this. I'm sure they don't give a fuck. Nobody cares. No, I agree with you there. All right. Fake, fake rich people are upset about this. I stand corrected. Yes, fake rich people think it devalued the brand. But they have a point. They don't want their peers being able to afford something that's similar to what they save their lives for. That's what it's given. I think that that's so corny. I don't think it devalues the brand is something like. Oh, yeah. I mean, as a customer, I am pissed. I can't rock AP like that anymore from DDG. OK, but they did the iPhone C and I still kept my iPhone. It's not the C. Yeah, but if iPhone does it, remember the iPhone C. If iPhone does a collab with, you know, another phone and it's like, I feel like. Yeah, if they if the iPhone did it like a motor or flip. Yeah, collab should be fine. I like that. My thing is why are they doing this collab? That's my that's my thing. Like, you know, it's like wise AP and Swatch doing a collab. Like why? I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. Yeah, just wait for the Rolls Royce and Honda collab is coming. Yeah, like I saw. I understand, you know, watch collectors and it's just like art, too. You know, it's it's like you doing the collab. It's like if if you have an extensive wine collection and one of your favorite wine brands does a collab with Mad Dog 2020, you're going to be like, I fan, like you doing a St. Arts collab, like being nostalgic. I mean, I could just understand how some people would be like, all right, what are we doing? Like, you know, it just kind of. Just why I just want to know why AP decided to do that. So you hate Boone's Farmers, what you're saying? I just want to know why AP decided to do that. That's all right. I think it'll be cute for the kids. I'm happy that they don't get the flexed a little watches. I think that that's cute. I like I don't think there's anything wrong. Like when Kanye did the Red Octobers that were fucking what, like five grand to get. Oh, Red Octobers was a time and an incredible shoe. And then when he switched over to Adidas, I love that Kanye's goal was to make shit affordable that people could get. Like. Like I get the theory. Like when Dame explains, he didn't want to sell the S Carter sneaker for forty dollars because we're putting Jay Z's name on a forty dollars sneaker. Now Jay Z is worth forty dollars. Like in what's the market? They want once you put a price on that. Now that's your price forever. But when you're AP already, I don't think there's anything wrong with having that tier of shit. No, I just want to know why they decided to do it. I just I didn't I didn't read up on it. And, you know, to understand why they decided to collab. But listen, I mean, you know, let's let the kids get get their AP and flip it for like five thousand dollars or something like that. Somebody to pay for it. Yeah. Why was everyone mad at the Nick Cannon and DDG while and out? I've heard way worse shit on it. What did what did what did they say? She go in Carlos with Safari was 30 times worse than anything. I think I think everybody was going crazy over the line where Nick Cannon basically said like you can't see your son. Funny. Yeah, you can. And then DDG's, I guess his real spicy retort because he came back with some we only know you from Mariah Carey and it's like 10,000 times. Yeah. And then which is also not true. And then he came back with you got all them kids. You should have aborted some or something like that. Well, that's how he started it. You should have aborted. Yeah. Some of your kids. So I think it's very fair to come back and say, well, at least my mother, my mother allows me to see them. Yeah. Funny. Yeah. DDG was up there stumbling. No, he was. Oh, that was rough. He was like, oh, that ain't no rapper. That was rough. But I mean, that's. There's plenty of actual rappers that have been on and no disrespect. I mean, to say actual rappers, because I'm DDG doesn't make music that have been up there. That like rough time. They opted like legend, legendary rappers have kind of opted out. Like I'm not quick on my feet like that. And I don't freestyle like they've been rehearsing this shit. Like these guys have these lines written in their heads already. This is it's a different room. That's not for everybody. So DDG got up there and he was he was he dropped the ball. So that was the way most people if they had to actually freestyle. And after you told me like you brought up like some personal shit. You brought up some personal shit now I'm emotional and I'm trying to think up my feet like, ah, you got to have your shit written for Nick. You know, you know, you're going to have something like you already got balls for Nick. You got to go with it prepared. I ain't going up there trying to really freestyle because Nick is going to be prepared to you can tell. You can tell it's freestyle. Right on the show that give Nick bars. I know, but I'm saying even stuff that he's replying to some someone else on the spot that wasn't planned. I've seen Nick go. I mean, obviously, like Carlos and Chico are the goats at that shit. But Nick is really good. Yeah. Nick, Nick a rap with anybody on Wild'n Out. Without writers like I religiously watched every season of Wild'n Out and there was definitely stuff that I didn't know was still on. Well, they're starting the new because remember the whole Nick. Said something about a certain group of people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That one group. Yeah. Yeah. So but, you know, they took a little break. We'll be right back. Nick had to do some homework. He had to go to the museum. He had some things to do. Oh, man. There's that is coming back and I mean, I love Wild'n Out. So I'm happy that it's when you want to see. So look to Nick Cannon, man. For sure. Nick is a fucking legend. Yeah, plenty, baby. But on the comedy side, you guys watched the roast of Kevin Hart yesterday? Yes. A couple clips. Yes, I did. Shout out to Kevin Hart. He had his live roast on Netflix. I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was good. No, I loved it. Out the gate, it was a little shaky when Tom Brady started it. I was like, where Tom Brady wasn't that bad. I just didn't know. Tom Brady, it was true. Of course, throw that sandwich that in between two comedies, like starting out with Tom was like, all right, the auditions made me laugh. And then I don't know, I just got off to a rocky start. But other than that, it was great. Who was the who you thought stole the show? I mean, the rock gave us no choice. Yeah, I said, the rock came out. It was clear. It was like there's celebrities and then there's this is different. That's all. But the rock was funny. Yeah, he was. There's a rock that's going to sound crazy. And we'll get to like the actual comedies. The second Lizzo wasn't bad. I know she giggled through a lot. I said, I didn't know Lizzo was that funny. Like Lizzo was really has really good comedic timing. Yeah, because even when you have people that are not comedians and someone else writes their stuff for them, you can hear just their idea. They just suck at reading it. Like Lizzo was really good. Dreymon wasn't bad for basketball player. Dreymon wasn't bad. Dreymon saying I wouldn't fuck Jesse here and there because I'm Dreymon Green. I don't hit threes. That made me giggle. That was funny. Tony Hinchcliffe, who's one of the best at it, probably his worst roast set. I was actually a little disappointed. That was my kind of. You didn't like Tony set? It was Tony. Tony is so good at that stuff that I'm holding him to a Tony standard. Like, yeah, out of coming off the Tom Brady roast, he had one of the best sets by far. It was kind of lackluster for Tony, in my opinion. Sheryl Underwood was great. She was fucking hilarious. She was hilarious. Yeah, Sheryl Underwood was great. Yeah, she was. I mean, Shane did a really good job. Regina Holt was funny too, though. She act like she was like channeling Kevin's mom from heaven, like her thoughts and what she was saying. It took a bit to like get into the joke. Yeah. It dropped. But once she got into it, actually it was fucking hilarious. Yeah. But yeah, I thought it was great. We thought about Kat coming out. Amazing. Yeah. And I'm glad that they they did their beef there. I actually believe this one. I didn't really believe the Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft one at the time. But I didn't believe that first. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that was the biggest hug I've ever seen. Yeah, I think that Kat and Kev, I think they really piece it up. I think that I'm sure they've had. And I love the fact that Kev didn't know Kat was coming out. Like that was like he probably did. No, he didn't. You can see it in his face. Like when when Regina, she bought him out, you could you could tell he was like, oh, shit, like, all right, like didn't expect him. But I didn't. It was funny that Chris Rock wasn't there. It was funny that Chappelle wasn't there and Eddie Murphy, because they was altogether for the the brunch, the comedy brunch. So when I saw the pictures of them at the comedy brunch, I'm like, oh, shit, they probably all going to come out for Kev's roast as well. So when Eddie Murphy wasn't there and Dave wasn't there. And, you know, obviously Dave has a relationship with Netflix. Chris Rock has a relationship with Netflix. Like so for them not to be there, it was kind of like it's a little interesting. And why wasn't there? Rose. I mean, I can just obviously just speculate. I feel like when you're at that like goat level and you've never done the roast, the pressure to be the best there. Like let me just stay out of this. Yeah. This world. Yeah. Nah, hell nah. I'm thinking it was more of a money thing. They probably was like, you know, I'm going to give Eddie and Dave and Chris to come. Well, I forgot who said it. I thought it was funny. They said the reason your Netflix account keeps going up in price is because Chappelle does speeches on there. Yeah. Naim Lent said that. Yeah. Oh yeah. He was shooting at Chappelle the whole. Is there something personal that not like for real, but it was very odd that he dedicated half of his set, which was great. Just might have been. Well, it was on Netflix. So he probably was like, shit, Dave has probably made more money from his Netflix special than any other comedian. But I'm trying to think because Chappelle has made a lot of Kevin Hart jokes in in most of his specials. There's always like a kev shot somewhere. Yeah, but they fucking tell that they know for sure. But I'm trying to think if he ever said some like plastic cut boys, probably did. But that's part of it. That's part of that culture. Like you going to say you say something you said about me. All right, Nicky, I got you. But I don't know if it's personal. I don't know if it's like real, you know, tension and nothing. But I did expect once you saw the pictures come out with all of the comedians at the at the brunch, Netflix is a joke of brunch. I definitely thought that Eddie Murphy and Dave and Chris were going to be at the rose, but I just, I don't know that the pressure of those. Three, if they always did roast, it would make sense. But I feel like they'd have to have the most iconic roast set ever at that. The pressure is done a little crazy photo. Who? I think Chris Rock has done somebody's roast before. I think I'm sure I'm sure Chris Rock has done one. I don't know about the I'm sure Eddie Murphy has in though. Chris Rock and roast. I can't. I think Chris Rock. He roasted somebody, I believe. No, I mean, he's done monologues where he's done, but like a specific like comedy central roast. I can't remember any of that. But I feel like Chris did one. But I was shot. I mean, you know, Bill Burr and Kev came up together in New York. I was I was hoping he would have been part of it, but the same thing. I don't know. Like Bill Burr has done the roast of like Jim Norton and shit in a comedy club that you can kind of YouTube, but he's never done like the quintessential one. It would have been great rest in peace to Patrice O'Neill. Patrice also came up with Kev. They used to live together like that would have been fucking incredible to Patrice in that. But I thought it was a really good roast. Big J got he actually tricked me with his setup. I thought I was like, Keith Robinson is dead. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? I had no idea. I missed that shit. And then they cut to him in the crowd. I was like, hi, man. That was hilarious. So he's not. So he was dead to me. I would have to Dave got rich. No, I literally saw was like, yo, what? How did I miss that? Because wasn't Keith sick to or is sick? I think so. That's why I was like, fuck, did I miss that he died? I thought I made some jokes about and I'm not being sensitive. I'm just asking you opinion on it about Cheryl Lee, not Cheryl Lee, Ralph Laurence, Cheryl Underwood's husband killing himself. Yeah, I was. Shane did like seven of them throughout the entire time. What he kept saying that he called her the week before. Oh, OK. And she was totally fine with it. But yeah, they were. They were they still didn't compare to the bonsai tree. Oh, joke that she had my heart was. Don't you have to hang yourself from a bonsai tree? That was funny. It's said if Kevin Hart was to be lynched, it had to be on a bonsai tree. I was like, holy shit. Yeah, that was funny. That was funny. It was good. I liked it. I enjoyed. I see some people online. You know, it seems a little too harsh. I'm like, so roast. I thought the Tom Brady one pushed a crazier line than this one. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I thought it was good. Yeah, but no, she was great and was totally fine with those jokes being made. Yeah, I wouldn't have been, but I'm also not a comedian, but I don't think I would have been. I maybe at a roast. You can't be sensitive at a roast. Don't even go up there. You can't even go up there. You know what this is about. First between being sensitive and like my husband killed himself. Like that's a little there's some line. Pete Davidson's dad died in 911. You think that they would like held punches there? They were like every roast. They were like, your dad is rolling around in his rubble right now. This is what they were saying up there. Like you like you had a roast. Like you can't fucking have no you can't be like, no, you can't say that. I think the only thing they did is I think everybody had to agree that they couldn't talk about Caps kids. And that was the only thing that was extremely fair. Yeah, it was off the table. I think that was the only thing that was off. But even Pete, I forgot what I think was the Justin Bieber roast that Kevin R. O's even Pete said on his set. So playing was the worst thing that happened in my life involving a plane. Yeah. Yeah, so it's that type of type of environment. Like we ain't got time for that emotion. You shouldn't hear you can't be emotional. Yeah, it's a roast. But no, they they tore up Tony Inchcliffe the whole time. Rightfully so, though. I get it. I understand it. You even if he's not that fully, he has the stereotype of the complete right wing comedian. Talked at the Trump shit. Like, yeah, I thought they smoked. Yeah, it was good. Though you need that. You needed that in the room, so as well. Yeah, absolutely. But I do want to rewatch it. It's just I watched it on the way. I wasn't watching it. I listened to it on the way up from Philly. Yeah, I wasn't driving and watching it. But three hours. I know. Yeah. Yeah, shit. I pulled up to Park in front of the studio and there were still 15 minutes left. Yeah. All right, before we get out of here, once again, congratulations to the New York Knicks. The New York Knickerbockers completing their sweep of the Philadelphia 786ers. I don't like it, man. You don't like what? The sweep? It's going too good. That's that trauma. That's that PTSD. It's going too good. Post-traumatic sweep disorder. That's funny. It's going way too good. And I don't fucking like it. Yeah, I don't like it at all. But the piss is great to come do the. Not celebrate as sometimes, Nick's fan. Just speak, speak from our perspective. Would you prefer the calves of the pistons? Any team James Harden is on the playoffs. That's what I want to play. He showed up last game. That's the last game. That means he ain't shown up tonight. Tonight at all. That's all that means. If you want to bet against Harden tonight. Yeah, fucking the pistons. They won. What they was on a. I think they won. What how many games in a row open to that five, six? It was down three. You know, the piss is we just we just won four. The piss is three one to the Raptors. Yeah. Came back one that series. The magic came back one that series and then won the first two games against the cast. But I don't think we we match up well against the pistons. She I mean, we weren't great against them in the regular season. But one thing I learned about the New York Knicks is you don't want a good guard to come into the playoffs playing the next because he's going to have a career game. The Knicks just something about guards when they come into the garden for the playoffs, they just have career games. And Kate Cunningham is not the type of guard you want to to play against in the playoffs. The Knicks don't want to see Kate Cunningham. I can promise you that. Yeah, I can promise you that the physicality. You know, I just paces, pistons, any team with a P. Just for some reason goes crazy. No, it's both crazy in the garden. Yes, I don't know what it is looking like. It's going to be the pistons for the for the I believe the pistons will be the calves. But yeah, I don't I don't know, man. I just the Knicks look good, though. So just take that the Knicks look good. Congratulations to them swept their way to the Easter Conference finals. Like it scares me that we let like O.G. even got to rest. No, but that's the know what you happy about that. I love that we didn't have to we didn't have to sacrifice. Yeah, you get some risk that. But it just scares me. It's too perfect. Listen, man, just because in the Knicks world, we'd have to, you know, put O.G. in a wheelbarrow and throw him on the court to try to win. And listen, man, just take it one game at a time from here on up. That's all. Just focus on one game at a time. I mean, what do you think about your Lakers? Definitely coming back, right? No, they'll be back tonight to play a game for when they're listening to this now. The Lakers have been swept. The Lakers have been swept. Can't Turks on three Turks on three is hilarious. You're like, it's over for the Lakers. But yeah, I mean, nobody expected them to be OK. See, I just I didn't think they would get swept. But I mean, hopefully when you listen to this, maybe they did win game for maybe the way the Knicks are playing. I think we match up against the Thunder well. Like that's why I'm so scared. Oh, no. Yeah, nobody matches. If we play the way we're playing now, we can beat the Thunder. I just don't know if that's ever going to happen. The only team that can beat the Thunder is Spurs, in my opinion. That's the only team that can beat the Thunder is Spurs. I mean, if they get still tied to two. No, that's a great series. It's really good series. I think they would have won a game for last night if when Wimby didn't get ejected. But, you know, it happens. It is what it is. But the Knicks, you know, congrats to the Knicks. It was a great game from start to finish. They couldn't miss. Imagine a world if it's the Timberwolves and the Knicks and if Dolan wasn't such a cheap fuck, that could have just been one team. Would Randall. Who else is over there? Steven Chenzo. Steven Chenzo. No, he's out though, right? He told us the killings. Yeah, he told us. But I mean, the Timberwolves and Knicks are just a mirror image of each other. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man. It's going to be a good, it's going to be a good find. Eastern Conference finals, no matter who the Knicks get, though. They match up. I think the Cavs, they fund the watch, Donovan Mitchell. And depending on if James decides to show up. But I don't think the Knicks want to see the Pistons, though. I just think the Pistons are just a tough, way tough opponent. Do you have any plugs? Can I just see one playoff game? Because I'm not, I'm not paying. Even on my birthday, I was looking at prices and I said, no, not even for my own birthday. Am I doing this? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I got to make some calls. I'll see. I'll go nosebleeds. You just want to be in the building? Just want to just want to wave the towel. I will watch it on my phone in the garden. You just want to wait without. Yeah, I just want to be there. They look good, though, man. Shout out to the Knicks, man. Y'all should celebrate. Take this time to celebrate and just take it one game at a time from here on out, man. Yeah. And shout out to Mitch, man. Ball don't lie. Karma is real. You still holding on to that? No one was happy. It's over. They're going to the East the Conference Finals. It's over, man. Fucking posterized. Crying in the poster. All right, man. Well, baby, do you good? I'm OK. Caps is like they going home, but it's all right, though. I know my timber wolves, I still have hope. Timber wolves look good. It's tied up, you know. So we have to see. Maybe the calves can come back. But the Lakers, here they go. They got their sunscreen ready. They go to Turks. It's over. Does LeBrona, does he play next year? Yeah, he plays next year. I know. I was going to let you know when he's done. He's going to get the whole. He's going to lot of he's going to lot of us for sure. He's going to know he's when he retired now, just retirement, he's done. He's going to get the whole, you know, he wants to say. He's going to announce it for real. I do think next year will be his last year, though. I think so, too. I don't at this point, what is he still playing for? He has all the all the achievements. He's all time leading scorer. You know, I mean, he has rings. He has MVP's played with his son. Something we'll probably never see again. At this time, at this point, it's like, man, listen, man, it's crazy numbers in the playoffs. I know he felt like him and Luca maybe had a shot at getting one, but. Not when OKC and San Antonio is looking the way they looking like. They going to battle for the rings for the next at least two, three years. Is this his last game? Does he go full Kobe? Like, do you think we'll get that last LeBron game? I'm not past. I'm shooting every time. Like, do we get that same Lakers send off? The way the way Kobe's last game was not with Luke out. Kobe could do that because he was out there with no money. Well, you got Luca fucked up. Look, I can't fuck about the L.A. And Luca told me like, man, you don't give me that fucking ball. We ain't shooting every shot with Luca. No, hell no. They got it. They got to tell Luca the wrong date that day. Shit. No, but, you know, the NBA is to make sure they send send LeBron off the way they supposed to. And he'll get his, you know, his farewell tour. Yeah, he'll get his lap around every arena. We know when once he announces, it'll be his last year. I mean, obviously LeBron has his production company and a lot of business ventures. The brawn is fine. But no, no, I'm saying what is what is what is bronze career look like after basketball? It does he go commentary? Does he? Ownership, the team in Vegas. Yeah, something like that. You know, a Wendy's, maybe some analyst work. You know what I mean? Like he's the marriage thinks he's going to buy one Wendy's. No, most of all, Wendy's Wendy's is Wendy's is when most of all, Wendy's is LeBron a big Wendy's guy. I don't know. I don't know. No, I think he'll do. I was team owner for sure. Record label. Hope. He could be the head of the university. I hope not. I think we're down for on our test. He'll do some analysts work for sure. LeBron's mind for the game. Definitely needs to be something that is courtside. So I think it do some analysts work, things like that. Like he'll be around. He'll still be around the NBA, but, you know, I think it's like, what else are you playing for at this point? Because I always said it. I always said he was waiting for Ronnie. Is he waiting for Bryce to that's crazy, waiting for Bryce to his. Oh, it is Bryce. He's in college. You just finished his first year. Yes, freshman year. He didn't play. He didn't play. But yeah, that's right. Is he is he waiting for Bryce? Is he trying to get Bryce in there? Not if Bryce redshirted. I'm just saying it's an extra year now. LeBronka played two more years. He looked great this year. He had a great year. Physically, he's still his numbers are the same. Yeah, he's not. He hasn't like tapered. I mean, yes, it's not what it was in, you know, 2014. But yeah, like he's still he still looks great. So LeBron could get two more years for sure. I hear you. Yeah, but I don't know. I just think that, you know, for what? What is he playing for at this point? This is his legacy is already cemented. So 22 seasons. He might just like the game like. No, he loves the game. Yeah, he might just let it go. He love the game. He love the game, but it's sometimes you got to even things you love, you got to let him go before they let you go, baby. You know a little bit about that, right? Just a little bit tiny bit, right? We'll talk to you soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. I love you, baby. D. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.