Are dragons real?

You're listening to Pet Candy. This show is brought to you by BravePaw's anxiety and stress support, two of those for dogs, thunderstorms, vet visits, fireworks, separation anxiety and more. Every day can be a BravePaw's day. Check out mybravepawse.com. She's licking dog's office face. Initiating sound check. Clay, take it away. Take the equipment away? Yes. I shouldn't be allowed to have it. Welcome to our new show, Obsessed. A show where we talk about whatever it is we're currently obsessed with. I'm Caitlin Palmer. I'm Clay. And we're obsessed. Hey, Clay, how are you? I know it's past your bedtime. Okay, so this is what we're doing. Yeah, we're going to do sheep puns. I don't have a story, but we are pet sitting for some sheep and they're pretty amazing. Yeah, the sheep have some wild pets that we are pet sitting. Yeah, the sheep, we're pet sitting the sheep's pets, which are humans. It's really the dichotomy is very strong. I mean, kind of. There's a lot of sheep here. There's a lot of sheep here. Hey, Clay, okay. So I've got some sheep jokes. You ready? I'm guessing you've looked all of these up beforehand because I see you're scrolling through your phone. I'm guessing you've saved these. Always. Okay, so before you start, these must be really good then since you've had prep time. Oh, they're terrible. They're really bad. Fantastic. I know. It makes them better. What do you call a rumor among sheep? Heard it through the grapevine. Okay, that one's less sheep and more about livestock in general. What do you get? Go away, readers. Digest. You're interrupting my perfect dad joke. You're interrupting my perfect dad joke. Now it's not a good dad joke anymore. Roles have been reversed today. Today I'm the boo daddy. So what do you get when you cross a sheep and a rhino? I don't know. A unicorn. That one was a stretch. They really wanted that one to work. You know how sheep greet each other? They say, hey, how you doing? It's so bad. These are terrible. These are the worst. Hold on. You want a good dad joke? Let me just kind of... Pull it out your butt. What's a sheep's favorite rap singer? Soldier boy. What? No, it's not. You! Okay, high five. I love that. No, you cannot follow up my dad joke with one of those. Those are crimes for which a punishment has yet to be invented. These are so bad. They're unheard of. See, that's not... They're really bad. Yeah, that's apt. Anyway, how about a little bit of ASMR? That was good. Clay opens those with his mouth. So he takes the barks, the glass root beer, really the root beer bottles, and opens them with his teeth and then drinks it and it's crisp. It's very good. So good. So what is your subject? Everybody's been wanting Baba Yaga, but you said that since I did a hag last week, you're not going to do Baba Yaga. Yeah, I'm going to have to put off Baba Yaga. That's not cool. No, maybe not, but I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to do two witches back to back. Sounds like a good time to me. Definitely not if one of them is a boo hag. Oh yeah, no, boo hags are no good. Yeah, no, I don't think I want to be romantically involved with a boo hag. Oh no, my life is quietly weeping now. Is there something you want to tell me? Can we talk about the skin? Clay, would you be open to talking about the skin? So actually my subject today actually loves sheep like to eat. Is it a werewolf? No, they like human hearts. Today's subject is actually my favorite among mythos. So let's start with a quote from one of its kind. Wait, do I know this thing? Like is this something you're going to say what it is? I'm going to start in this quote and you're immediately going to know what this is. I'm so excited. My armor is like... It's dragons! It's dragons! You're killing dragons! Jesus, I thought I would at least get to the first comparison. My armor is a stone. Close. My armor is like tin-fold shields. My teeth are swords. My claws spears. The shock of my tail a thunderbolt. My wings a hurricane. And my breath death. Oh, smough. Smough. Hey, can we get a bearded dragon and name it Smough the Great and Terrible? Yes, but not right now. Dammit. There's a herp show this weekend and I'm really trying. We're in the middle of a podcast. We can't just go and get a bearded dragon. Okay, fine. Especially not at like nine at night. We'll wait till this weekend. So, yes, today we are talking about dragons. So what is a dragon? Ask the person who has never seen any movie or read any book. At all. At all. Period. Dragons vary in description depending on the culture describing them to you, but are most often large reptilian creatures of legend. And that's about the only thing I can say for sure, for certain that encompasses all of the variations. But even that isn't entirely true as some have been described as the size of insects or even horse like. Oh, baby. Yeah, I'm talking about little pixie dragons or the Keering. So how old are dragons? Old AF. Yeah, both the dragons themselves and the lore about dragons. So ancient Indian sources like the Rig Veda, one of the oldest texts in the world, dated around 1500 BC, speaks of the great dragon, Vricha. Get it right, Clay. He is a great dragon. He's a great dragon. Who had to be killed by the God Indra to release the waters of heaven onto earth. Yeah, very grandiose. So. I always thought that was pronounced grand wall. I'm pretty sure it's. I don't know which one it is now. You've gaslighted me into. So stories of dragons have likely been circulating before that, but that's the best documented that we can find. But that being said, at least documented, they are well over 3500 years old. Would you say that they're a tale as old as time? That's always not about dragons. It's about love. You want to eat the sheep? Well, now it's a little bit more about dragons. Yeah. So in Greece, the word dracon from which the English word was derived was used originally for any large serpent. That's where we get, you know, the word we currently use dragon dracon. It very similar. You can see where we've bastardized that into our own word. Yeah. Dragonheart was my favorite movie. Dragonheart was a great movie. Dragonheart was, oh my God. Dragons are part of lore from all around the globe. Every continent, except Antarctica, has a dragon legend. Antarctica. Get on that. So depending on that analogy we've done, we've done a lot of head-to- head-to- head-to head in Europe and China as well as the Americas and Australia. Yeah, so all of these different cultures have a dragon, and these are cultures that did not interact with one another. Many of these places were cut off from one another for very long spans of time, and still managed to describe very similar creatures. Right. I'm gonna say some words that I may not be able to pronounce correctly, but the Mushassu of ancient Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia? Mesopotamia, what'd I say? Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia. It's close. It's older than Mesopotamia. Oh, okay, sorry. It's a book. It's the Mesopotamia. Apep in Egyptian mythology. Vritra from the Rig Veda. The Leviathan in the Hebrew Bible. We love Leviathan. The L'Ornian Hydra in Greek mythology. Oh, we hate a Hydra. Jormen Gander, Nidhogger, and Fafnir in Norse mythology. Nidhog. Ketsakotl in Aztec mythos. And the Ninkinanka of West Africa. I didn't know Ketsakotl was a dragon. I thought she was a bird. Yeah, so what you're talking about, you thought it was a bird. There's a reason for that, because it is a feathered dragon. It is a specific body type of dragon that I'll discuss more in depth. There are main two distinctions when talking about dragons. And those can be further broken down into categories of body type. The two main branches are basically divided as Western and Eastern. There is some crossover between physical appearance in these, but for the most part, they are set apart by this geographic distinction. Western dragons are usually symbols of evil in both the Shavaric and Christian traditions. And Eastern dragons are usually symbols of power and hidden wisdom, though both symbolize the untamed wild and the unforgiving fury of nature. Yeah, so that's kind of how they're split. It's sort of like good dragons and bad dragons. Oh no, I don't want to say bad dragons. Good dragons and evil dragons. Yeah. I don't want to say. Right, yeah. Someone knows the joke I'm making. Oh geez. Dragons, while namely being large lizards, still vary quite dramatically from culture to culture. The two most familiar would be the European dragons and the Chinese dragons. Yes. So just saying those words, you can immediately think of those two dragons. The Chinese dragon is the long serpentine snake. Has a beard. Has a beard. It's very disquieted. That's the main thing is that it has a beard. The European dragon is mostly depicted as having two wings attached to the back and four legs. It almost always breeze fire and is commonly green or red in color. This is probably what most people are familiar with. At least the people listening to this podcast. They would usually hold up in a mountain cave, horde treasure and kidnapped virgin maidens, not unlike, you know, Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk. Jesus. Hahaha. These dragons were either depicted as being mere beasts or clever villains who would terrorize a village's livestock or seek tribute from the peasants under threat of destruction. Yes, also like Bezos or Elon. La Roa. We'll be right back with more pet candy. Hi, this is Shay and I want to tell you about my new show on pet candy, Cooking with Shay. I make vegan eating easy and fun. Check it out on Pet Candy TV. So the Chinese dragon being the other one you held in your mind's eye upon mere mention is depicted as having a serpentine body with four legs but no wings. Yeah, they usually just kind of climb about the sky. Often they have very distinct bestial faces, usually with mustaches, beards and horns and usually antlers is the common. Yeah, yeah. These dragons are considered sacred creatures that have lived for untold years and wield immense wisdom often in the realm of morality. They're, you know, seen as extremely enlightened creatures. Typically they are bright colors from reds, oranges and greens. And while they possess no wings, like you said, they are often depicted as floating through some sort of supernatural means. In very Chinese fashion exuding both grace and power, you know, in equal measure. They're the Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild Dragons. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild Dragons. Yes. That's their full name. That's their Christian name. The one they got when they accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Yes. From there we can break these dragons down into smaller groups based on body type and geographic background. Wyverns are much like European dragons in appearance, but instead of a front set of legs, they have wings. These bipedal dragons are rarely known for breathing fire, but instead sport a barbed tail or a stinger that delivers a deadly toxin. Wyverns are often used in European heritry and are generally regarded as less intelligent than traditional European dragons, often appearing smaller in size, but still very large creatures. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's like a dragon. You didn't know about the stinger, but I mean, we both play monster hunter. And if you think of the Rathalos Arathion, which are classic Wyverns. Oh my God, you're right. They do both have, yeah. Well, that's my go-to armor. Is Rathion armor? Yes. It makes you look like a princess. It does, like a warrior queen. It's good armor. So a lot of times you'll hear people use Wyverns kind of interchangeably with dragons, but as I'm talking about, it's not quite the case. But that happens for a lot of these different types of dragons. So Linnworms are serpentine dragons with only two front limbs and no wings. So you see, I'm stripping away body parts at this point, we're counting them. They're popular in Germanic areas. This creature would slither along the ground, pulling itself forward with its powerful claws, similar to the movements of a mole lizard, which strikes a very similar look. If you've never looked up a mole lizard, go look it up. I've never seen a mole lizard. I'm gonna look it up. It's kind of like a worm lizard. It has these- It sounds cute. It has these two front claws that it uses to help dig around under the ground. The Mexican mole lizard. Oh, it looks like a weiner. Yeah, kind of like a weiner. They do have back legs, but they're like vestigial. They're not even visible from the outside. So picture a snake with little baby arms. Basically a little baby arm snake. Oh my gosh. Now a linoarme is one of those, but like 50 foot long, and it doesn't look like a penis. Oh. Yeah, I know. Well, we can't have it all, right? First world problems, am I right? Linoarmes are often lumped in with worms or worms, which appear much the same, but without the front legs. And that's spelled W-Y-R-M, not- Right, or W-U-R-M. Ooh. Worm and worm. And those are also sometimes used sort of interchangeably, just like different synonyms for dragons, like all of these things. Right. But they are talking about different things. They are technically a separate kind. So much like a giant snake with a dragon head. They were also lumped in with sea serpents, particularly the knucker, which was said to eat cattle as well as human corpses, and could be found underneath a church's graveyard, feasting on the body's beneath. Ooh, that is spooky and wonderful. Yeah, so imagine a dragon snake that just kind of eats your dead relatives after you bury them. Oh my gosh, I will always think of that. When you bury me, I want you to be like, you will make good worm food. And then people will be like, oh, that's, well, that's horrible. And it's like, no, no, W-U-R-M. The black hole. And they're like, oh, cultured. So much like a wyvern, the word drake is often used as a synonym for a dragon. Right. But it's actually a class distinct from the rest. Drakes are four-legged dragons without wings. So like Otogaron. Well, okay, now Monster Hunter makes everything a wyvern, and that's not the truth. And I don't think that thing is even draconic in nature, period. Otogaron? Yeah, Otogaron is almost like some sort of dog or something. He makes like weird hyena noises too. For people that don't play Monster Hunter, they're very confused what the hell we're talking about right now. It just says it's a quadrupedal. Yeah, drakes are one of the smaller types of dragons, often being a little larger than a horse. They are stout and simple beasts that resemble a giant monitor lizard if it had sharp teeth and armored scales. Same. Summer said to breathe fire, and in some fantasy settings, even ice. Ooh, we love an ice dragon. An ice dragon. I don't know why I did that voice. I'm so glad you did. Amphiteers are another serpentine type of dragon similar to lynn arm in appearance, but with often feathered wings or sometimes leathery bat wings. So this is sounding more like... Ketzequaddle. Ketzequaddle, right. She would be classified as an amphiteer. If feathered, they tend to have a lightly colored plumage and are compared to the color of a sunrise. Plumage sunrise. Those words I used. Same. Together in a sentence, and it was everything you've ever wanted. We're talking about dragons, not me. Okay. Though prominent in the Americas, they have also seen wide usage as European heraldry and are actually very similar to classic African dragons. Okay, you know, I've never heard of an African dragon. Yeah, but like I said, everybody's got them. That's true. Everybody's got them. Septianardica. Septianardica. Anyone listening for Antarctica is unsubscribed. Yeah, somebody is listening from Antarctica right now. Right. If you really consider it, I guess, Antarctica did used to house dinosaurs, which could be kind of like dragons. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Especially, you know what I mean? Talking about like amphiteers and that sort of thing, these like flying serpents, that was a whole like archetype of dinosaur. You know, these little feathered snakes, essentially, that would leap from tree branch to tree branch. Oh my God, I love, I want one. I don't know what they're called, but while we're going back to Monster Hunter again, but then they're in Monster Hunter world, there's kind of endemic life that you can observe. Yeah, you can catch them and put them in your room. Yeah, and they just kind of walk around and act like chickens. Yeah, and they're so pretty. That's kind of what a wyvern is. It's just, yeah, that's just a battle chicken. It's a battle chicken. It's a big ass, scaly chicken. Yeah. Some of the old art for wyverns, by the way, really does make them look like just a fire breathing chicken. I love that. Oh, which is kind of where you get these. Coming soon to a Facebook or Instagram post near you. You get these creatures that are sort of like subdivided in wyverns, like the cockatrice or the basilisk, which are kind of just like more chicken like wyverns. And you know, they're smaller than regular traditional wyverns. And they usually have like either a stare that will turn you to stone or like a poisonous bite that will kill you or turn you to stone. There's a lot of, those words get thrown around a lot more than just things like wyvern and that sort of deal. Right, yeah. So pretty much anybody has free use to those words and they will slap them onto any monster. You know, I mean, the witch are both the show, the books, the games, what have you. All feature basilisks and cockatrice and essentially. Yeah. They're just small ass old wyverns. Basilisks are different than you would expect them to be. Well, I mean, Harry Potter had a basilisk, right? But it was pretty much just a giant snake. Yeah, pretty much. Which is another sort of form sometimes if you were to like Google basilisk, you'll get one half chicken dragons, one half big snake. One half big snake is my new punk rock band. TM, TM, TM, TM, TM. There are too many books, video games and media in general to reference that mentioned some form of dragon. And each instance involves unique individuals as human as any other character in the story. Often these are evil tyrants, powerful forces of destruction, or sometimes just grumpy old creatures that seek solitude and nothing more. Same. That's why I like dragons. Is that they're just these grumpy old men who just don't want you in their cave. And I just want to be a pretty unicorn. But for real though, everybody, can we just talk about how great Brave Paws is? We got a free sample. We did. We're going to be completely transparent with you. We did. We got some free stuff and it works. Yeah, I was a little surprised. Like I'm not going to lie, you get this stuff and it doesn't really seem like a typical pet treat, right? But we gave it to our pets and they gobbled them right up. They do. They do. And it's nice because it's like, you give so many pills per pound. 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And we're both in the animal industry and we have been for years and years. So we would not tell you about a product if we did not believe in it ourselves. Yeah. It absolutely worked for us. So. Maybe it'll work for you. Go check it out. My BravePaws.com. Go put your brave paws on. Brave paws give your pet the courage they need to weather the storm. My favorite depiction of dragons is in the game, Final Fantasy 14, where the dragons of that world are not native, but beings from another world chased to the point of extinction, who possess more than muscle and fire, more complex creatures. A dragon's eye or even a scale is imbued with such magical power that it can thwart off deadly poison or grant immeasurable might. Even in death, a dragon from this setting can be reborn from the height of their slayers, forged into armor, possessing their killer's body and reshaping it back into their draconic form. That is so cool. Yeah, they're like these super mythical beasts. And in European lore, they're not. They're kind of just big lizards that people have to fight. But in things like Chinese, Japanese mythos in specifically Native American, like with the Aztecs and that sort of thing, these creatures are akin to gods. Yeah. They're not these. Sacred beings that have come down to interact with us because they are bored or had the displeasure of running into us. Oh. What would you say is your favorite sort of depiction of a dragon? Aesthetically, probably a wyvern. I just think they look cool. And in animation, when they charge at you, they do that like scuttle thing and it's creepy and I like it. Yeah. Smog has talked about as being a dragon, but he is technically a wyvern. Right. Smog is number one. Smog is number one. Yeah. I mean, there were bigger dragons than Smog. Yeah. Smog, like, the Hobbit name, Smog. Oh, God, I can't ever say his name right, but it was like Ancangalon or Ancalong or something. Yeah, I'm not sure. He was a dragon so big that he'd lifted himself over the horizon using the tops of mountains, one in each hand. Like, that's how big he was. That if he were to like stand up on his hind legs, his head would breach into outer space. It's this massive unimaginable dragon. The entirety of Smog's body could have fit inside of his mouth and he wouldn't have even pinched his sides with his teeth. Like he could eat Smog like an M&M essentially. Oh, Smog. Yeah, Smog. Oh. In his own book, Smog wouldn't even shit. There are many ideas on where dragons could have come from. Having no clear point of origin makes it difficult for scholars to find an answer that is universally applicable. Some have suggested migrating crocodiles or massive pythons, which, I mean, you know, physically. I can see it. Yeah. But it's actually believed to be an inherited fear of snakes that have shaped these creatures into massive fire-breathing monsters. Something sort of left over from our cave mandays, where we knew snakes or big lizards to be dangerous. Sure. Which is why we, in our stories, usually house a dragon in something like a mountain cave or one of these places where, you know, are very dangerous and will often be home to snakes. That's true. And you had said in the Unicorn episode, the stylized pictures of a snake flicking its tongue made it look like a flame. Yeah. Because of sort of the art style of it, which was like this really sort of simplistic, but I don't know, fancy way of drawing. Yeah, did make the snake's tongue look like a gout of flame. A lot of times, they wouldn't even connect it with the mouth. Right. Because of that style. Because they were situated along just other creatures that'd be written in these bestiaries, it would be ambiguous as to their size. And then you kind of add in things about it. Yeah, proportions weren't really a thing. Proportions weren't super important. I don't think the guy that first drew the snake in that style was like, one day someone's going to confuse these with a whole other ass creature. Right. But you'd get these stories about sea serpents and stuff at sea and how massive they were, because it's hard to judge distance over the ocean like that. Yeah. It was easy to confuse them for something much larger. Dragons live for unimaginable lengths of time. That seems to be a common thread within these mythos. That was the saddest part of Puff the Magic Dragon, when they're like, dragons live forever, but not so little boys. Oh, damn. Yeah. Man, dragons live a long time. Too bad your little boy is going to die extremely soon, because you're in the Middle Ages, and the average lifespan is like 22. Yeah, that's very old. Right, you're an old man. You've seen your great, great, great grandchildren at that point. So dragons live for these unimaginable spans of time. Some myths say hundreds or even thousands of years, and others say that the first born dragon is still alive to this day. Oh, that's what I want to believe. I like, in the Pathfinder setting, dragons, after they get up to like 10,000 years or some ridiculous number, they are often depicted as prideful creatures in a lot of things. Oh, almost always, yeah. But I mean, you take a big, powerful lizard. I mean, yeah, I'd be proud of me, too. Oh, I'm proud of you. I wish I was a big, powerful lizard. Oh, I like you just how you are, honey. They will fly off to a place that is unknown and undocumented, that is sort of like a dragon graveyard where they will just wait for death because they are too prideful to be seen as in a weakened state. Oh my God. Yeah, so, but I think that's very cool, although sad, very cool. It's playing it as fudge. Their kind have been revered as gods and sought after for their boundless wisdom, but they've also been demonized, hunted for glory, slain for honor and title. It is this juxtaposition, these ideas that bring me to my last quote by a dragon named Horace Velker. When approached by the sons of man seeking forgiveness and slaying his kin, men die and their children forget, but we are everlasting. To us, then is now. Thou canst not comprehend the violation, the outrage, the fury. Okay, so there's people that like want to live forever, want to live in obnoxiously long time. To me, that sounds awful. Yeah. I do not want to be an immortal creature. Well, you know me. I made a whole D&D character who is immortal and that is his like flaw, that he is tired of living. He did not even go through thousands of years. Right. It did not take long for him to get tired of humans and the world that we all live in. Same though. Right, I don't know. I guess if I had like an on-off switch, I'd be like, actually I'm done now and then just kind of be done with it. Then yeah, I'd choose to live for as long as I want to live. But yeah, it not being able to sort of turn that off and just be like, well, I'm not gonna die of old age anytime soon, I think would be too much. I mean, a thousand years is such a long time. That's a long time. That is a long time. And the dragons and these mist live many times that. That's ridiculous. But that's why they're kind of usually seen as these wise and creatures. They've had all this time to accumulate this knowledge and to see things on a grander scale, not so focused on your own life. If you live that long and you're that powerful to not really have to worry about other predators, you can sit back and see the world kind of more for what it is than your own sort of skewed view. Yeah, and there's different kinds. What is it like, the red dragons or evil, the gold dragon? Well, yeah, you're going back to like D&D and Pathfinder. Yeah, you have the metallic dragons are usually assholes and the chromatic dragons are usually pretty cool. Metal dragons being things like gold, silver, copper, brass and the chromatic being colors. So red, blue, green. Oh wait, no, I got this mixed up. The metallic dragons are good. The chromatic dragons are bad. I was gonna say, I thought that red dragons were not nice. My bad, I got this mixed up. I already got some lowly adventure appeal. Especially in Hannibal, red dragon was not nice. Well, that was just a psychopath. Yeah, I like him though. That's probably like the most common depiction of a dragon is like a red wyvern. Right, yeah, just a red dragon. What is your favorite kind of dragon? I actually really enjoy the European, the traditional European style of dragons. That's my favorite shape. Not necessarily my favorite sort of mythos that they inhabit. Cause like I said, and that they're kind of just like beasts. If they have intelligence, it's usually, you know, no more than an average humans and they just use it to be assholes essentially. So. So they're cats. Yeah, they're kind of like cats. I actually, I completely stand with that. Dragons with the personality of cats. Oh my gosh, like toothless? Okay, well that's like a silly ha ha. I'm talking about like just a cat as a cat is in nature, which is to say an asshole. Well, that's it. I could obviously talk about dragons much more, but I'd feel like if I don't sort of do it in conceivable like chunks, I'll go on far too long. So this was just kind of about the different types of dragons. I'll talk about particular dragons. I could do a whole episode on each of those dragons I named earlier because there's a very rich amount of lore for creatures like Nidhogger or, you know, Vritra. Right. This is just kind of dragons as a whole. Yeah, dragons 101. Yeah. So. With Professor Thomas. Dragons in our world. Yeah. Dragons and you. 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But like, you could still win it though. And we've also got some more little things. We've got like some scrapbook, like things about pets, where you can put in pictures of your dog and stuff and write about them. It's kind of like a baby book. Like a baby book. But for your baby pets, we don't do baby like humans. Like, if you want, it's great. Like, we're good though. Next week is Shark Week. Oh yeah, that's right. You know what I'm going to talk about, Clay? Sharks, specifically the mechladon. Trucks. Oh, okay. Yeah. That makes sense. You should. We're really tired. But I thought the mechladon wasn't a crib. They still exist. They do still exist. And I'm going to convince you why next week. You cannot. Watch me. All right. All right. Well, next week, get ready for the biggest, baddest mother in the entire ocean. Older, older than anything, except maybe dragons, mechladon. All right, everybody. Well, we love you and we're proud of you. Whenever you've done this week, we're proud of you. You guys are great. Oh, you want me to say something? Yes, say something else. Don't slay dragons. Slay Jeff Bezos. Agreed. Bye, everybody.