Now on 105.9 FM and streaming worldwide on the WMAL app, O'Connor and company. It's 5.07. Good morning. It's a beautiful Wednesday in your nation's capital. It's the eighth day of April. April 8th is my dad's birthday. He would have been 89 years old today. Happy birthday, dad. Coming up later this morning at 6.35 our weekly visit with Cal Thomas. It's 7.05. John Reed of the Republican Party of Virginia. Try to get that gerrymandering scheme stopped in its tracks two weeks from today. We'll know the results of that referendum. So we got to juice things up. 7.35. Sean the man, Spicer will be joining us on the day to 5. The 10 of Colonel Tony Schaefer. Also with us all morning is the incredible, the wonderful, the intelligent, the brilliant, the energetic, the inspiring, great leader, beautiful woman, Kerry Lucas. Wow. That's a heck of a- That was quite an introduction. I don't know how I'm going to live up to this Larry. I just need you to at every moment of the morning to talk to that. And even more importantly, Kerry Lucas, of course, the president of independent women. That would be covering the umbrella that covers all of the independent women franchises that are out there. You got it. It is quite a franchise. And she was just telling me that she is a recent subscriber and frequent downloader and listener to O'Connor and Company Podcast. Why don't we spend the next 10 minutes talking about how great it is to have O'Connor and Company as a podcast? Yeah, actually, I mean, Larry, it's funny because I actually really have enjoyed being able to listen to it in the afternoon when I'm driving. If I've, you know, in the mornings, I'm often making lunches for the kids, getting kids up and out to buses. And so it's kind of choppy if I'm listening. I miss it. Sure. We're on in the background. We recognize that. Exactly. Yeah, which is good stuff. We know there's a lot going on in the morning. But I miss things. And so I really have enjoyed, if I'm, you know, driving somewhere to be able to just put it on. So it's been good. There you go. There's the testimony that we've all been waiting for. And so many people listen to five in the morning on their way in. And then, dare I say, I think it's fair to say that a lot of people who listen this early in the morning, when they get to work, not easy for them to listen to a live radio program. In fact, I would argue a lot of people listening right now probably have to hand over their listening devices and put it in a special little box before they go into a room to do their work. Yeah, exactly. I bet you're right. Yeah. And given that, they could, they miss a whole bunch of stuff that happens later in the show. For instance, well, if Sean Spicer at 730, you want to hear that, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer at eight o'clock, how do you hear it? Yeah, get the podcast when you're done with work, automatically downloads, Bing Bang Boom. There you go. Exactly. Glad we have that going on. What's up with independent women these days? You have a gala coming up, don't you? Can I say gala? I don't want to offend anybody. No, that's, I don't know why that would be offensive. No, that's a perfect word for it. People would pronounce it gala. Do you do gala or gala? What do you go with? Yeah, I think you can go either way. We'll go. Well, tell me about it. Yeah, I'm excited about it. We're having it on May 7th. And it's going to be, it's going to be great. We have our Women of Valor, which is our biggest award, is going to the White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, which is really exciting. I feel like she's been such a force out there for the administration, but doesn't do much publicly. So we're really excited to get to this. That is a big deal for her to come and get this thing. It is, I mean, it needs to be noted. I know you're used to it from your position because you see it all the time. But here is the first woman Chief of Staff for a White House. She ran a successful presidential campaign. By the way, Donald Trump is one two presidential campaigns both run by women. Thank you very much. Yep. She is, without a doubt, the most powerful, influential and important voice in the room of the Trump White House and runs the cabinet and runs the staff pretty damn well. And everyone will acknowledge the kind of, you know, power and influence she has. And yet, and it's a woman, if she were a Democrat, and if they were a Democrat White House, they'd be going nuts for her. She'd be a superstar. But I guess we should just be thankful that they don't trash her all the time. They just don't, they just ignore her. They just deny her existence. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it really is, she's one of those impressive people who doesn't seem to be, she's in it for the cause. You know, she's somebody who is out there not trying to make a big name for herself. She probably could be much more prominent if she wanted to be, but, but she's just out there doing the hard work of supporting the administration. So we're excited about having her there. But we also, you know, I'm, you know, it's, we're going to be celebrating the 250th also, because you know, we're racing up to that, and we're going to have a really fun band and red, white and blue celebration after party, Larry. So you'll have to be ready to, um, Larry and Heather, if you can hang out late and, and enjoy some of the after party, that'll be fine. Funny you should say that. I'm trying to, it's on a, uh, it's on a Thursday, isn't it? Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's see. Right. I know, I know you had a late night, I think. And yeah, two things at night. No, no, if I remember right, the last time you got, y'all had a gala and it was a great night and we really enjoyed ourselves. And I think we got a hotel room in the district and, and stayed overnight. So it was a little easier in the morning to, uh, to get up and do this. Yeah. To do what we do. Um, I, I believe, uh, yeah, I, you know what it's, while we're talking about it, it reminds me that I, I don't know if I had, uh, I had committed yet on my RSC fees. But is, and I'm checking the website right now, it is open to the public, right? People can reserve seats and tables and support the great work independent women's forum does. Absolutely. Absolutely. You'll find all the information at independentwomen.com. Excellent. All right. I'm glad we got through that. Yeah. I think, I think we'll be there. I'm sure we'll be there for the dinner. I can't, I can't commit to the late night. Of course. Of course. Yeah. But you know, we are responsible women and I think the after party is not so after it's like nine or something Larry. It's we don't, we don't, that's a little crazy. Yeah. All right. We can't, we are responsible women. I don't want to give the wrong impression here. Or the right after party site might sound, you know, the wee hours of the night. All right. We will, we will, I think I have, I might have traveled that weekend, but I think we'll be able to make that work very exciting. Um, and meantime, how is it? So this, you have, you guys always have so much on your plate and your, your, your CEO, uh, Heather has been on the show talking about some of the issues that are most important to her and what she's been writing op-eds on and what you're working with Congress on to try to represent women and get women's interests, you know, outside of the regular, you know, loud voices you hear in Washington that pretend to represent women, but you represent mothers and wives and patriotic women who were looking for, you know, who have different interests sometimes. Um, has it been hard this legislative session with, uh, you've got the shutdown in the Senate. You've got the, um, filibusters going on. You've got Speaker Johnson. God bless that man with the narrowest of narrow margins. I've got to think for people who advocate like you do, Kerry, that's got, it's, it's a tough task right now given the conditions. You know, the one thing I think that is often, um, missed or underappreciated is how much continues to go on behind the scenes and the just tremendous, um, you know, ongoing good work, especially in the deregulation with the deregulatory agenda that this administration has prioritized. They continue to peel back red tape, um, and are making real progress. It just doesn't make headlines. It's not kind of sexy. It's not going to like dominate the, the, the news. Um, but, uh, but, but it's really tremendous. And so we continue to try to, um, you know, champion better regulatory policies, work in the states to, you know, make it easier for people to start businesses or to, um, support independent contractors. So there's a lot of good going on out there, um, that, that, you know, obviously is a picked up in X and actually probably, it's probably good that it doesn't get a whole lot of attention. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Not that, not that anything's being done in secret. I just mean, you know, it's, it's, there's so many other giant crises is going on that for some of this other stuff, you can probably get to work and actually accomplish things and it doesn't become, you know, the, the cause of the day. You know, absolutely. It's, it's interesting. I remember, um, and I might get the exact number wrong, but I believe that the president early on in the administration charged, um, that, that he wanted his administration for every regulation that they, um, promulgated that they like withdrew 10, I think, or something like that, that he wanted. And I know that they've not only hit that mark, but a far out, um, exceeded it with, you know, they're getting rid of 60, 100 regulations for every one they're putting out there. So it's really restructuring the bureaucracy in a way that, that again, won't make headlines. It doesn't pay off so much in the short term, but it's really going to leave us with a much better system for the future. That's incredible. And of course, our friend, uh, Patrice on WUCA participated in the, uh, reclaiming affordability report that you guys put out, which is really, I thought was a seminal piece in terms of, well, you know what, we'll get to that in a second. I really do like to focus on the great stuff independent women, has been doing and stuff like we just said, sometimes isn't on the radar. And, and the whole idea that these women politicians, like we saw winning in New Jersey and in Virginia, claiming that affordability was going to be their agenda. And then they've actually made life more miserable for working women and for mothers and for families. It's really something. And how dare they even try to use the word affordability. That's why I love that independent women said, no, we're, we're reclaiming affordability. We'll tell you what it, how exactly we can achieve it. We'll get into those details and also your colleague, Julie Gunlock, who usually is here every morning still recovering. We want to give her a couple of shout outs as well. So more with Kerry Lucas here who stays with us all morning. And yes, yes, yes, we'll talk about Iran. We've got all morning to talk about Iran first though, it's 5 16. Vince Colnays is redefining news talk with the Vince show. It is a reflection of your response to this program that we get to take this thing to the next level. These gigantic shows. This is going to be so much fun. It's unbelievable in depth interviews, live caller interactions and a front row seat to the most important conversations of the day. I've got updates. I've got big stories. We'll sort through the truth of what's really going on to buckle up. Here it comes. The Vince show. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. If you go to independent women.com, independent women.com, you can see some of the great and vital issues. You know, you so much of your advocacy over the last several years have been about, you know, defining what a woman is and making sure that women's spaces and women's athletics and all those things are protected. It was a righteous fight and you won at so many levels on that. Of course, the fight will continue the second the Democrats are put back into power because of the special interests that they're beholden to. But you lose sight sometimes of all the other work that independent women's women does because of that. And you know, you've got advocacy options here for people to submit public comments on the reformation of 401ks. You've got the and as I mentioned this report on reclaiming affordability. Nobody knows about affordability in the American life better than the women in our lives, whether there are single women living on their own trying to strive strive out for a career or whether you're the you know, you run a household and you're the mother and wife and having to do 20 different things at once. The what we've seen in Virginia with Abigail Spanberger stressing this affordability as a as a buzzword and as a campaign slogan. And then the failure of her first 90 days that even the Washington Post with an op ed yesterday came out and stung her over. It really is something and it really does open up a wide example of the disconnect between politicians and reality that I think you guys really fill in for. Well, absolutely. And you know, it's interesting because obviously you had Zoran Mondani and so many of the Democrats decided, you know, the second after having just pushed the economy over over the brink and had just run away inflation during the Biden years. And suddenly as soon as Trump gets into office, they are claiming life was unaffordable and it's it's Trump's fault. In just a way that was so like nakedly political. It's interesting, but they you made this word, it's caught on it. It was one of those things that they a lot of people are frustrated with the cost of living. So it resonates. But I think one of the things that what we're trying to do is remind people that we're talking about affordability. A lot of it's about what's available and it's about markets and it's about making it easier to bring more things to markets. The Democrats like to talk about making things affordable by, you know, robbing Peter to pay Paul by raising taxes, dishing money out. It actually doesn't make anything more affordable. It may change who pays for it. But again, eventually that's that cost gets pushed back on taxpayers. So what we're talking about in our affordability report is how to bring down the costs of bringing things to markets. Something like housing, if you look at the costs of housing, I found this just an amazing statistic. Your regulations on for a new single family home to bring a new home onto market, about a quarter of those costs are regulatory. That's not the wood. That's not the labor. That's not it's the costs of a home are being massively accelerated or increased by bad government policy or unnecessary regulations. If that's a really important way, we can make things more affordable and make it easier for people to get ahead. Yeah, it's fabulous. And again, it's just a little bit of what you guys do over there. And I'm so impressed every single time I go in because I use the independentwomen.com website as a resource for me too, just for my own show prep and being able to talk about perspectives. And we have a of all the shows on our radio station, really, of most talk radio shows in the country, we have a really large female audience. And so I want to know that I am talking about these issues from a perspective that is going to resonate with those women who are listening to our show too. And you guys are so good at that. And that's why, you know, from Patrice Anwuka to you to Julie Gunlock, who's still recovering from her health incident that she had earlier in the year, we've been able to utilize the great resources that you have and the great women that you have. And I know that you were very close friends with Julie. So people ask me and I always say she's recovering, she's on the road every day a little bit better, long path. I mean, you've actually seen her more recently than I have. Yeah. You can give us beyond that. You know, you know, just that Julie's, you know, she's itching to get back. She misses, she misses everybody. She misses being out there in the public. And she's doing, she's doing great, Larry. She really is. She's, she's every day I see her, she's making big improvements and as, as funny and engaged as ever. So, um, so I hope, yeah, everybody should keep her in their prayers, but she's doing great. And I've been told she listens every morning. I'm sure. I've been told she's, I don't know if she's still listening at 5am necessarily, but she's definitely listening every morning. Maybe we hope she can. Yeah, exactly. She'll listen on the podcast and the download later. Her oldest is graduating from high school this year. And I know that she is, you know, wrapped up in that and he got accepted to VMI and he's going to be heading down to VMI for college and just everything's falling into place for her. And she just has this, she has this new challenge in her life and she's going to get through it and we're going to have her back and I cannot wait. It's going to be a, well, I won't be able to speak that day. So she'll have to take over the show because I'll just be beside myself with emotion. Exactly. Carrie Lucas is going to be with us all morning long. And yes, we'll get to the big news out of Iran and where things stand with the Strait of Hormuz and all the things that Joe Scarborough is going to be screaming about coming up in a bit. It's 523. Now on 105.9 FM and screaming worldwide on the WMAL app, O'Connor and company. It's 537 on this day after a civilization was wiped off the face of the planet. It's so, so said. Carrie, did you notice all the people was like, he's going to vaporize every person of Persian descent around the planet? Exactly. How often does this have to happen? You know? Oh, thank you. It's just like, but after how many years of this, do we still have to sort of fall down into this? Why don't people recognize President Trump for who he is and the way he says, you don't like it. I understand you don't like it, but go from zero to 11 every single time. All right, sorry. I'll save that for when we discuss this in further detail. 635. Cal Thomas will be our guest. 705. John Reed of the Republican Party of Virginia. Talk about the get out the vote effort to stop the gerrymandering. 735. Sean Spicer, 805. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer on Iran. This is Carrie Lucas of Independent Women and friend of our program. Good to have you here, Carrie. We're getting a double dose of you, aren't we? I know. I'm so excited. Tomorrow as well. Yeah. This is an embarrassment of riches with Carrie Lucas. You are a Virginian when you're not living in Germany or abroad or wherever. Yeah. Globe, trolling. Yeah, exactly. And so I know that you've been focused quite a bit on this gerrymandering effort. There's actually a whole lot in the news right now about the state of affairs in Virginia and the dismal start of the Spanburger administration. Let's start with the gerrymander referendum. There will be a special election. It is two weeks from yesterday. The Democrats have gotten tens of millions of dollars poured into the state from Hakeem Jeffrey, Super PAC from Eric Holder and Barack Obama's Super PAC, all from outside the state, mind you, because they recognize the prize here. The midterm elections this November to determine who will have the majority in the House of Representatives will be rendered irrelevant if this referendum goes through. Because basically without even trying, you will hand five congressional districts over to the Democrats. And that's it. That's the whole ball game right there. Everything else is just noise. So they recognize, and I've been lamenting why Republicans don't recognize it. Where's the money from the Republicans? Where's the money from the MAGA Super PACs? Where's the money from the RNC? The RNC is sitting on like a five to one cash advantage over the DNC right now. We need an air game. We need to be on TV as much as they are. Well, let me just tell you, we got good news yesterday based on public disclosures of campaign donations to the no on this referendum effort. They got an infusion of $9 million yesterday. And we don't know where it came from. It's from a Super PAC somewhere. It's anonymous, but boy, none too soon. I mean, they needed it. They needed it yesterday and they got some yesterday. That's pretty good. Yeah, this is this is just such incredible and encouraging news, especially because you I feel like there was some almost sense after the loss last year that that there was, you know, people were down. People thought Virginia is done. Yeah, Virginia is done. We lost Virginia. That's no, we didn't lose Virginia. You know, Virginia is still a purple, purple state and it deserves to be. Call it indigo. Yeah, it's a pretty. Oh, come on, Larry. Let's stick with purple. I feel like we can fight back, especially when you see what spam burger, you know, right now we're going to have a sad crash course in the problems of democratic governance. So if it's indigo now, it can be, well, you know, lavender later on, if we played right. And certainly in this one, this is a as you know, it's a hyper partisan, absolute abuse of the system. And it's going to turn off a lot of centrist Virginians. Well, I'll tell you, this coincides with a series of polls that came out that showed spam burger is just almost underwater with her popularity, which is astounding just 90 days after she took office. It shows that she's basically dead even with with favorable and unfavorables. And the conventional wisdom within the District of Columbia is that she has overreached with the left's agenda that she misread the real tone and tenor of the people of Virginia, even though there's an anti Trump streak in the state. The state is never like Donald Trump in terms of the majority of voters there. But they've never been radical left wing AOC Bernie Sanders or a Mamdani Democrats. She's governing like this is New York City. She's governing like this is California and and it's not and boy, oh boy, are the numbers looking bad for her and even the Washington Post op ed yesterday, the editorial board came out against her saying that she is absolutely blowing her opportunity here by embracing the radical left enrichment. Yep. I mean, that's a big part of that is her being so prominent on the whole gerrymandering scheme. And just with such kind of dishonesty of trying to, you know, are you for fairness or not, just which is obviously ridiculous. But I know that, you know, I'm in Fairfax County and just the the drumbeat of crime and immigrant related crime of illegal immigrant related crime, I think is left a lot of people saying like, oh my gosh, like what have we what have we done? Like why are we still in this? You know, in this situation where we have such a lack of justice and risk and accountability. Yeah, you say people feel that way. And I'm sure that they do. And I don't mean to make this sound like a pejorative, but but do Democrats feel that way? Not that Democrats aren't people, but you know what I mean, because you're right, most man on the street that you would talk to or they them's on the street even when you ask them, are you supportive of these policies that continue to release illegal alien criminals onto the street to wreak havoc and murder? They're going to say, of course, not that's awful. And yet they keep voting for the people who enact those policies. Yeah, you know, I do think that there's, you know, probably there's the unsavables among the far left, but a lot of Spanberger's own voters, I think people who were, you know, a lot of we got obviously have a lot of government workers who are frustrated with Doge and with some of the reforms of the Trump administration, you know, things that I think are probably, you can be tough, but are important for the country. But that you know, that was kind of understandable that people wanted to send a message. But they didn't, I feel like a lot of them didn't realize they thought they were voting for a nice, moderate, centrist mom. And here we have this radical AOC, open borders, you know, the most hyperpartisan leftist, not just a Democrat, a leftist as running the state. And you'll forgive them for thinking that they were electing a nice, moderate, milk toast, you know, mom, because that's what she ran as. Exactly. And that's what we kept warning everybody about. That's not who she is. But you know, even the Wall Street Journal was referring to her as moderate, and I didn't quite see anything moderate about her. That's fine. That's fine. Now they're starting to catch up. It's okay. We're going to tell you what the Washington Post op ed said about her. It's not good. We're also going to show you what Steve Discano did with regard to his policies regarding illegal immigrants that we cited last week on his website. That seems to have disappeared. We're also going to tell you what Spanberger's response to former Virginia Governor George Allen's challenge for debate was. We'll give you all of that coming up in a moment. It's 544. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Department of Homeland Security says three out of every four people arrested in Fairfax County are illegal aliens. They're asking you to discontinue sanctuary city policies. Any comment along those lines? Governor? Governor, any comment on the DHS request? Wow. How many videos do we have to see of Abigail Spanberger running from reporters asking very simple questions? And I hope you heard that statistic. According to the Department of Homeland Security, three out of four individuals arrested in Fairfax County are in the country illegally, and yet they double down on the policy if not cooperating with ICE to make sure that people with detainers are apprehended, turned over to ICE and then put on a track for deportation. So I guess it's no wonder when you send the message that you don't take your laws seriously in this country and you can get away with breaking laws, those people end up continuing to break laws. Yeah, what a massive waste and danger for the citizens. It's just it's so discouraging and outrageous, but you know this is what this is what Fairfax County voted for, I guess. I suppose it's tragic to see it unfold before your eyes. I pause and I'm sort of hesitant to get the words out because we've spoken to the mother of Stephanie Mentor, the woman who was stabbed to death by a maniac who had been in custody and arrested over 40 times, where one of the top officers in the police department went out of his way to send an email to Steve Discano saying, do not let this guy out again, he's going to kill. And so you know, you know, we talk about politics a lot and winning elections and how these politicians are responsible for policies, but when you bring it down to you know, a mother losing her 40 year old daughter at a bus stop because of these policies, it's just it goes beyond the pale and it's like, well, why are we even talking about this? Yeah, it's, it's really is it's just absolutely jaw dropping. And I do think there's a there's not enough attention. I think a lot of people, you know, we're talking about this and your listeners, these listeners are engaged and aware, but I think a lot of people just turn their eyes and don't want to think about these consequences. Nick Monaco of WJLA brought to our attention last week that Steve Discano's campaign website, Discano for for Commonwealth's attorney, it had a line in there, he had a whole thing about immigration and cooperation with ICE and there was this line, if two people commit the same crime, but only one's punishment includes deportation, that's a perversion of justice and not a reflection of the values of Fairfax County. So he basically is admitting upfront that he's going to judge two criminals in his custody differently. If you're an American citizen, and you don't face deportation, you're going to be dealt with one way. But if you do face deportation, you're going to be dealt with in a different way. So you can avoid deportation, basic, literally tipping the scales of justice in one direction or another to non citizens who have broken more laws than a citizen who broke the law, they're going to be treated better by Steve Discano. But here's the interesting thing. Nick Monaco has gone back to the website to check on that. And it's been deleted from his campaign website. The policy still stands, but he deleted the evidence, he deleted the smoking gun. This guy is just a walking, talking abomination of the law. It's so crazy that you would think this is the one where you'd feel like you would have to go and check and make sure it wasn't a Babylon B, make sure it wasn't something that was cartoonish, you know, reflection or trying to exaggerate what the leftist policies are. But nope, this is actually what Fairfax County and how they're approaching crime. It's absolutely discriminatory. Here's the Washington Post op that we were talking about. This is yesterday, the honeymoon ended quickly because Bamberger allowed herself to become the face of a hyper partisan power grab that she knew to be wrong. How does she know it's wrong? What do you mean she allowed herself? No, come on. The governor signed off on a proposed map that will give her party a tend to one edge in the state's congressional delegation of voters approved on April 21st referendum. Currently six Democrats, five Republicans. This has turned off independence and repulsed moderate Republicans who helped her win three competitive congressional races. I would love to talk to those moderate Republicans who helped her beat winsome Sears. What an abomination, but you go ahead with your, your never Trump selves, you moderate Republicans. Look what she did. That's pretty bad when the Washington Washington Post op that is doing that to you. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. This is just, it's just, it's so obvious that this is such a huge overreach that the Washington Post, if they want to have any credibility, it has to come down and slam it for what it was. Governor George Allen, who by the way, has not been in public life for over 20 years, right? He was last a senator until he lost that race in the mid early 2000s. He's a great guy, but let's face it. Yeah, I mean, he has not been engaged in public policy debates at the highest level in a while. He's just a strong conservative and knows Virginia better than any politician right now. He challenged Abigail Spanberger to a series of debates over the redistricting gerrymandering thing. Abigail Spanberger refused. She chickened out. She doesn't want to talk about this, and she certainly doesn't want to be challenged on this. Yeah, absolutely. That's not surprising in the least that she would avoid this. She's hoping to just scoop past this and make her name. Yeah, not be accountable to the voters or to anyone. Hey, Heather Hunter, let's try to get the former governor on the show. We love George Allen. I'd love to give him a forum here. Had Spanberger not chickened out, what would you have said to her? Also, Molly Hemingway points out this passage in a different Washington Post article. Mason Nechi, a self-described independent voter in rural Culpeper County, said she did not vote for Spanberger, but hoped she would improve the cost of living. Instead, he feels, oh, did I say, oh, Mason, sorry. He feels she's been trying to make herself into a democratic icon. I don't see anything that makes me think I'll be able to own a home again one day in the state, said Nechi, a 44-year-old car parts salesman. Those are the people that affordability was supposed to speak to and help and lift up. People got hoodwinked by this garbage. It's actually sad when you see where Virginia is going, but the good news is that Virginians are getting it. In fact, Kerry, listen to this. Of all the things that we just laid out about how bad things are for Spanberger and Democrats right now, this could be the worst part. She was asked to throw out the first pitch at the Richmond Flying Squirrels Minor League Baseball Game Opener, which, by the way, they've got the greatest logo in all of Minor League Baseball. I'll have to check it out. The Flying Squirrels are amazing. This is what it sounded like in Richmond, in deep blue Democrat Richmond. Yeah, only her staff were applauding. Yeah. Yeah, that's telling. That's telling. That is telling. Well, keep your eye on the prize, everybody. One, excuse me, two weeks from today, we will know the results of this Jerry Manders scheme. If Republicans can somehow pull this one off and reject this thing, it will stop the momentum for the Democrats going into the midterm elections in its tracks. The stakes could not be higher. We will discuss it at 705 with John Reed. Keep it here for that. It's 555. 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