那个40亿美金卖掉公司的男人，重回十字路口 | 对谈Justin袁菁：创业、生活与那些"无用之事"

как Hi, I am Koji, and the of myags funnel is Justin Wiederrolled. Hello Justin, welcome time to another one. Hello. Saudi actual medal is also supposed to perform a podcast show. Yes, I too was on my head and took UCL then im Disga. Then I felt a little comeback, just genuinely it actually starts at whatever day. Because we found out at past episodes probably over the year ago. So I thought we're going to talk more così соımı louder南 first. 因为之前我们的内容很多人听了之后都说这个信息密度过大听完很焦虑 所以在过年前后大家都放假了一个放假的心情听听我们聊一些轻松的事情 你今天叫我来我说呢怎么就 我说我现在这个和你们这个栏目的这个讲那种差异很大的 沒有没有我们这个一方面是聊原来嘛另一方面还是聊十字路口的吧 每个人都有自己的十字路口 对然后这一年过得怎么样 變化挺大的,自從咱們開始認識嘛。 實際上那個階段就是我從上一家公司牧童開始退休嘛。 然後呢,一邊生活,一邊在做自己的二次創業。 然後因為這個二次創業就是,它感覺和第一次創業差異還挺大的。 我就想著說我一定要在這個生活的狀態,活在當下的狀態去做這個創業。 所以就相當於給這個創業要加了一個限定條件。 So I think it's a comfortable. It's résefulness Šbands with me Amirajan I think I really in my 해주 comments inwardly would expect like many years And one direction With a particular state Something I can overcome I just love to come over the 20 years And I know this one Now it's the age of such an afraid So it's in such a The age of such an archaeological So this is what I experienced This current life Have you experienced a perception of such a life You should never my own I've got a hatemie I know 什么压力啊 睡眠啊 各个方面 我感觉就是可能有的时候好 有的时候不好 你也知道我 对吧 就你有的时候咱们也聚啊 有的时候晚上一起聚一下 可能有会叫一下 我的睡眠呢 因为就是晚上又想玩 又想跟朋友们聚 有的时候喝点酒什么的 就会比较晚 但你想这个创业啊 或者工作这个事儿 要跟团队合作嘛 本身白天有工作 所以其实有的时候白天和晚上的切换 So if you have a good life, that would be a little difficult. So you would think that time is not enough. Yes, that's not enough. And in the future, you have to find the same way. That in this year, can I tell you how you had a normal day? Two different types. One is to work. The first is to go to the office. And in the morning, I go to the gym. I have a工作 group in the bar Then I'll have a 점. At sea, we will go after parties. At night, I normally always go with friends. I 딱 to return to the bar. On the first stage, where there are friends Who will talk about it. It's just a bit of a neurologist That's a veryon-main moment today. Yes, when it is not perplexed, it'll go更 weekly. So it would go continue. and then perhaps go to a coffee station. So they turn up to see what was atteelling. We will curate our night Давай ou I can do... There is many moments from the hotel and we are嗯? oderi into a dream 这个和当时在牧童的那几年的工作状态是完全不一样的吗? 还是也是有相似的地方? 完全不一样的 就是在牧童因为我们创业你想开始的时候是14年前嘛 就是人如果习惯了10年的那个工作状态 你就算想改你也很难改 所以在牧童呢基本上就是除了之后我每一天都是正早上起来上班 就把那个时间排得更迷 比如我真的要忙起来以后 第一会舍掉的是锻炼畢竟反人性对对所以在牧童很可能就是基本上就是以工作为主但是我在牧童到后期就是大概2230有一个点就是如果下班了我就要跟工作切断硬性的去做工作和时间上一个切断是我后来把工作状态改成我现在的一个起点这个切断要怎么切呢因为大家工作也都在微信上面你只要掏起微信这个工作感觉就无处不在无孔不入 We work on the other side of the paper. We work on the other side of the paper. We usually talk about this stuff. After the last year, I was a CEO. I心心 would have opened a small phone. I would have to take all the important things in my life. So I'm going to have to do that. I didn't have to worry about it. I didn't have to worry about it. I've got to worry about it. I've got to worry about it. 没什么事真的需要说晚上再来找我 所以就是可能还是老板的特权吧 挺好的 那其实你感觉还是找到了一个很多人都可能在追求的一种状态 就是所谓的工作生活的平衡 我可能去年跟你聊那会儿还是有点侃侃而谈 这个谈理想谈感性对吧 就谈的挺多的特意你想咱们那次还是在我家那个坐在那个地毯上聊嘛 那我现在呢确实有更深感受 确实是因为我可能 There are few things to be alive I can choose his own life I want to share my dear friend But I was thinking well Every girl will be so important You are very drew When I was getting Urtkaya Second процiencies Because I granite The friends who rumped me I would have seen the παg bred I did man Hijf eres Do you draw Certe How did you run a video So we could offer You came to ASA AI,包括十字路口,这一年你的生活感受有变化吗?我觉得有一个和你很像的是我觉得我也前所未有的取得了工作和生活的平衡我觉得之前是很难有的现在我觉得对时间的掌控以及就是感觉自己的这个状态可以持续很久的这种自信是比之前要强很多的之前会经常觉得我这么干下去我得还能干个一年我可能就要垮了 Ahem THin. Yeah. Maybe it could try to pay more money then I would buy your 10-hour city rural. I think my office always feels like Bill first, because ER, I would imagine you did not have business businesses prior to heading forward. No checking. No monitoring fee time. I smoke at my though... Many of them only hours sit down just getting offline. But not even a good thing to go out. 或者之前可以留点下班 但是你其实是有一点负罪感的 我好奇探讨 我觉得就是创业就是有非常明确的目标 而且那个是一个组织啊 或者说是一个一个团队大家的目标 那我觉得我现在的点呢 就是把目标这个东西先放的缓一点 把比如当下的感受啊 什么放在前 所以我想了解说你现在这个目标啊 或者说生活上 具象的就能够让自己变成这样的一个状态的你觉得变化是什么 我觉得你说这个确实很有共鸣 就是原来一定是有目标的 尤其我最后三年做唐道CEO 那是销售额目标嘛 而且那个目标它不是说每个季度有 它是每次大促都有 甚至就是今天晚上上个李佳琪也有一个目标 就是你感觉这个被大量的目标牵扯着走 然后一旦做不到目标 那目标往往是做不到的 If you do it, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. But now I think this thing, because of the media, it's good. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It will create some of the things that you do. Especially when you get some of the right things. You find you keep some of the right things. It's a good thing. It will go back and forth. 嗯 那你就觉得哎 其实这个也挺好的 那这个目标就不再是说 我必须要就是保肃劲儿去充一个双十一 而是我现在就每天把我認為正确的事情一二三都做了 然后慢慢的我相信他的积累就会越来越 越来越多 而且我觉得最快乐的其实 还是说相信自己这个状态可以干挺久的 原来我就很困 football 比如说我觉得我到五十岁的时候到五十五岁的时候我在干嘛 我觉得不可能持续之前那样的工作状态 但是现在我觉得或许我可以 我甚至可以没比这个事情做到65岁75岁都可以 你这个状态 我有耶 就是我当时做木头后面几年 包括说最近的感受是这样 而且我上次跟你聊过 就是我就是看了那个忙哥的穷查理宝典里面那个《论老年》 他讲的这个智慧怎么在人可能老去的时候也产生作用 那个感受和你刚刚分享的感受基本上都很一致比如说关注当下 现在每一天的生活是不是我未来想过的 然后某种程度正方馈就有点像相信负利的价值 你每一天如果自己感觉有收获有正方馈 那年复一年 所以某种程度我的感受 商业系统 of powerfulを 要有一个巨大的高的目标 选择 你达不到就会滋生一些 生一些焦虑,拼尽你自己的潜力能力时间,或者说你周遭的所有的系统的资源,但这种可能日复一日的状态,自身而言可能是更舒服的,因为你更关注就没有那样的消耗了,好像就是就关注在这一天你是不是就是是开心的,或者是做自己想做的事情,对,尤其是我有时候觉得自己也很幸运是我做过创业,做过CEO,做过二号位,我还在,之前还做过高管。 I think I've experienced I've experienced many times and many times and many times of work There are times when you think I'm worried about what I should do I haven't done Now you've done some things You feel like it's more I think now you're doing these things You'll find that you've done Your work and your character Your character It's been a help for you I think we've met It's a bit of a difference I think I'm also I have studied for first work Actually, I have studied for sixthALL Do we have worked for first Iapp métod principles In having experienced these experiences I feel that, in them were difficult in this process That you know You can get paid I dig through in the context So the reason Not how you want to reach such champion So next that's the age of life. 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I started to choose a Tidey, or a Maragis, or a B-熊. Then I used AI to do a choice. 我说我要他聪明是怎么样 抑郁训练是多少 气微小是多少 会不会掉毛 我就把他每个做分裂选项 然后就去选了一只马尔基斯 白天有的时候外出也会带着他 或者晚上去跟朋友相聚也会带着他 所以做了这些无用之事 你觉得他们的意义是出现在什么地方 好像就没想意义这样 更多的 我是事后的感受 就是有一种 第一呢就是 我觉得把时间空下来 或者自己脑子里允许自己做无用之事 就会更多的东西涌到自己的心里 什么样的东西 好奇心 兴趣 就是它会涌进来 就是它是打开状态 就像一个人是打开状态 打开状态你就会觉得更有趣 比如说你以前让我说我在家里做个菜 我觉得太累了 你为什么不买个外卖呢 连我爸妈做我的钱都烦 更别说自己做了 我就想象不到自己有一天会说 我会想着给自己做一个菜 我就不可思议不可想象 但是你在现在的状态去体会这件事啊,你真实的觉得是开心的,是有乐趣的。 然后以前你说你想一个,你想猫还好一点,对吧? 养猫还不太那个,就是需要人打溜,我是养的狗。 每天都要溜。 对,就是还好,我那马尔基斯就是我家里大马在家里溜一下也行,但是你肯定会嫌麻烦的。 So you're very lucky That's what the curse not made Why is it you perceive this problem Is it doing you aquest pleasure You want to focus this thing This is a very interesting point唯一 quote If you put away And probably I don't know if I do not You do not want to review If you have a goal of dream Or you Say something It will appear a lot of things You see And I guess And I tell a句 I think I felt a bit This can create And be a one with your scaling With great There is a principle Can create 创造性啊也有关系 不追求有用这个状态 和工作中那个要求就是效率倒下 要求就是你什么样的时间 要出什么样的结果 你要什么样资源去导入这 其实是有些冲突的 就本源就是不太一样 对 本源就是 你无用持久很多时候 就是你去感受 你去放空感受 所以你能感受到很多的 以前感受不到的细节 当你沉浸了 当你仍是 舒服的那个状态 就有点我们可以想象 比如说如果当天你在家里外面下着雨 你什么都不能干, 息息拉拉的 你在听人移音乐 你是什么状态,可能是相对放空 或者你在户外有阻 dei风镜的时候 大概是什么样的状态 但是 如果你到了办公室里面 10分钟我就要做这个 7天以后会有个大促 Your situation is what? One night I was with a friend He was a company He was a company He was a company He was a company He was a friend Everyone has a feeling He said that There are two types of situations One is a part of the situation One is a part of the situation One is a part of the situation One is a part of the situation Your brain is fixed You can use that brain to go to the left But if you are 你是可能在一种有创造力的状态或者放松的状态, 其实你的整个大脑的各种神经元全打开, 你可能看这个事是掉用这个, 看那个事是掉用那个, 包括我们有的时候我的个人感受, 就我洗澡的时候很有灵感, 就会想明白的时候会有些动物。对,我觉得其实人很需要脱离手机的, 因为手机一再你的所有的神经元是被它抓住的, 手机也好或工作也好, 或者有的时候你比如我过于曾经解决一个问题, I will do other things from my own For example someone would say a few words Or I going to eat something Or something else Actually I don know If you in a way 就是几个生意圈 在专注解决问题的状态 你对外界的感受是不行的 我记得Bill Gates他曾经说 他每年我不知道 现在是不是还这样 他每年都会有一周的时间 去到他在山里面的一个小屋 那个小屋是没有任何其他人的 就他的家人 他的工作人员 甚至他的助理都不去了 他就那一周要在那个小屋里面 就自己待一周 而且这也是一种 就是放空 无用 但他之所以坚持下来 我觉得他一定也是得到了很多 不管是创造力上的 还是是这个身心健康上的 一些正反馈 是 这点我其实就是很有这个感受 我可能要的更奢侈一点 我就希望工作的时候 生活当中就是另外一种 无用的状态嘛 所以我的感受更深 然后我跟大家讨论的是 I think this is a problem and I think this is a feeling I think this is a feeling And then I found some sort of科学 to support So I'm in the experience of the way I'm still in the experience This year you have thought You do the most interesting thing is what? I don't think that's the thing that's the thing I think I'm looking at the time It's a bit of fun It's not a bit of fun It's a bit of fun It's more interesting But I've experienced I feel very strong This is still It's still working We're in the first place We're doing the first thing It's a new deal 应该也知道 就是我们家那个道士 那个道士你也见过 就是他们那次在露台 就是这个项目呢 就是它经过这个PV这个曝光 然后在它第一个demo试完以后 其实那个成绩是比我预期的好的 就是受众的关注啊 包括我们在Steam上越纲单的这个数量啊 然后呢 但中间过程其实我觉得是挺难的 而且我就是一度就比较 还是有点悲观 觉得我们这种做商业游戏的 又在上海做可能是比较高高大 可能就是第一个要交学费的 但是呢就是 就到这个程度一个是这个 比较顺利但这个 就还好让我这个 这个觉得非常开心的就是我们家那个 道士去接受了一个游戏媒体的采访 他在里面分享说 就是这个项目怎么开始怎么到 现在的过程我发现哇 就是他的思考和 他怎么去做这个项目的理念 和我想做pilot Palot就是我现在二次创业做那个公司的理念基本一直的就他好懂我而且他也是同类人然后他在做的一个事情就是希望我这个创业中可能我的伙伴们我就希望他们是这个状态或者我希望因为我做了这家公司所以我的团队他就能够被我影响就是自己愿意去进入那种状态所以那个感受是很强的就有一种你真的支持到了一些人他们做自己心中做的事 而且你的很多的想法他们践行了 而且还在践行的这条路上他们自身有正回馈 这个很重要 可以稍微讲一讲吗 就是他的当时的那些表达是让你觉得哪些方面和你的里面特别的契合 那我们就可能要稍微把这个项目的源头啊什么来的来的说的多一点了 This project actually At first we thought Steam is a A game of games It's a platform So it's more It's more than It's in the growth We've seen a lot of users We think The game of Steam is There's a future But this part We've never done it We've never done it We've never done it We've never done it We've never done it The game of道士 Is a production It's a production 大家解释一下 他是真的道士 他是个真的道士 但是他以前是一个商业游戏的制作人 那我们说做什么 我们就当时选了一个恐怖游戏的赛道 然后实际上我们当时从商业的推演 就是定义了Steam游戏的恐怖游戏赛道 然后我们用小预算做 我们就定了一个比较少的预算做这件事 这其实是我确定的范畴 那剩下的范畴其实就是 在我看来当时最重要的就是他愿不愿意做这件事他想不想做这件事是第一位的他如果不想那我们这个事就不做了最后我们做商业游戏的这个立项是不一样的我们商业游戏其实就是你就要做这个方向了那你就去招聘到这样一个人你就是命题做文很多时候但是这个是半命题做文我们只是宽泛的定义了一个方向定义一个预算这个非常需要这位制作人他自己也有兴趣他自己也有热情对而且他自己要专心我记得当时一开始的时候他就是用R2手挫一个demo Ohion Amen We've made our ide Karen Whole Sheys I'm playing You Come � More 做多人合作的基因 他要求的 他非常想做 那我觉得可以 其实是由他自己觉得要不要做这件事情 并不是我们一开始的商业推导 然后呢 文化要素也是 就一方面他们想做一些跟文化有关的 包括我们找的世界观负责人 他也有这块的表达意愿 第二是跟他们去江舍湖采风 也有很大的关系 就他们在感受当中去定义一下 所以你说 他定义了这么多个人的表达的东西 I'm not worried Actually in a while of the process I'm worried I'm thinking You must be able to do a game You're not open to it We're still looking for In the business of business It's just a平衡 You do the The business of business It's first there's some The分析 And the goal of the拆解 And then the推 We need what kind of team We need to do what kind of team We need to do what kind of team We used to do this Or first First of all To do the business Is the business The business on the bigger Or I'm not I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to It's not a business But at least 然后我是这么理想的 我后来发现就是玩家很喜欢的那个部分 现在有共鸣的部分 就是他们自己想要表达的 这个很有意思 然后一开始怀疑的那部分 比如说Steam的受众都是 很多都是男性的一些玩家 我们当时有一个洞察就觉得可能 恐怖游戏女性玩家也会受欢迎 那我们就说 那我们做双人合作 可能可以 女生和男生一起玩 或者两个女生一起玩都好 果然就是的确是有这样的用户 他会喜欢 And then we also have a local culture 江浙户的民宿文化 加入以后 他说我们能不能用无语配音 然后他用这个无语配音 其实就是上海话或者江浙话 配音以后故事和这个配音 就很甜 然后这个都是在过程中 就是大家觉得说 hey 我们怎么做 然后并不怕小众 并没有担心说这个上面 因为你这么做 是不是别人听不懂啊 反正我觉得好像有更多的东西 变得清晰验证了 And when I started telling them, they were tough and telling them how important is to be able to learn to about things as well. I didn't know a littleatas, or I didn't want to know that I looked down to my friends because I was so jealous and wanted to be strong friends with them all. , that is the one uphill thing on LinkedIn. So this year, we want a bit to be happy for them. Actually I think it is that weran together we've got to do a 20 years 30 years. I think that I have to do it to a足 that was made up change that daily process. The first generation test afterань walk is here is if I positive and represent theseколips in such a good way. These are where I can come from. So I think that is an 진짜 I just wish I have very happy. It's a very very good and fun of me. Chinese pilot hatte one thing calledład and loaded into something called a personnel module? They were like what era,they were like some kind of unique anysings. For current,this procedure was a trafficじゃ Palm. Every kind of asset management, tradegoiad hadorest plays in a company. 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They need to distinguish different What kind of concept do you think did you listen to the FinalHvest? 少云我们俩都认识嘛,他就跟我聊到很早期他们做校招,但这件事可能是从最早的网易游戏的最初的负责人开始传承下来的,他们招的人都是热爱游戏的,并且综合能力都不错的年轻人一代的,已经有好多人就中流砥柱,就做出这个行业非常厉害的游戏,这是一部分。 然后第二就是说他们怎么选拔人才去做项目的 我觉得这件事他们有他们的一些机制保障 他们好像一代一代传承 包括还有之前田雄啊 他们就是怎么去选后来工作室的负责人 工作室负责人他们做成了游戏以后 他们又会给下面的人机会去怎么立想 哪怕那些项目的方向不是自己以前做过的 他们怎么怎么做 And them how they characteristic Work encourager He stores a shared comment He talked about样 Clarke He probably focuses on the different tech And then these culture came up, I see that many people began for years to learn about the world. Local resourcebers, public journalism in the market, so meeting people with regards to their hopes, because they did various companies on this consumerenanigans, they found their demand. And they tested the goal of being a pilot to buy new communication teams in this shop. 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But we need to do it. Or you don't have to do it. they're not long-ditoring, it's a erkennen kind of a creative creative experience. I think this team is a strong key. So, it needs to be really wants to engage. I think aAU, if we suck it somewhere, or mistake thanks to your own. If you're a violent decision, even if you're a fan of stress, if you are a core of cheap agreement, if you're a player going to do... I have to have a winning CT, I think it's a其实. I think the brand hard's Bryant can lead, very strong and keep it. Actually, it should also be great, that night just the wollte blink of itiy. Even one thing, Lee Cooper shared a question. I need to answer one question if you can build it in a better episode or really create a brand qualified sales group. If you look at their popularity ¿a you think it's very different than it? some of the founders of theses if you're no new Photoshop and not anything współ You know, we have some things to need. You fee be too rough. Do I agree. 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I like Japan. Every time to Japan, I see many 70-year-old people who are still in the same place. They are still in the same place. They are in a shop or in the shop. They are still in a website called Thecomfixing. The website is what is the meaning of Japan. They are to travel and travel and write a video. They are in a website. Thecomfixing means that you live in this. 生活在这里,你可能平时都忘了这里长什么样子,所以你稍微就是离地50米来看一看我熟悉的地方,又会看出什么样不同的一些风景风貌,所以他70多岁还在发起这样的项目,然后去了他年轻时候去过的一些地方,然后再重新去低空飞行来看这个地方,其实就他们给了我一些就是我年龄如果再慢慢增加,我还可以做很多事情的这种信念。 I have one ... 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We're more interested in thinking that some people can play a role as the top one 我 可能是适合的 因为我会看很多各种的内容 所以也可能各种创作者想做什么样的东西的时候 我应该都有 wat duke 和他能有共鸮的感受 我也从这个书里面 这么厉害的制作人 可能很多人的偶像啦 我们来看 就想去体验一下他 的游戏 这种感觉 Then It is an episode of I funded theiser It is very champion I watch it It's when he sells I see the book I read it Yes, it is It's pretty big既 serene She actually is a Japanese girl She knowledgeable Yeah, he should have All the way, she has a Umm back at home consultant Theshirts because I printed a life cycle 8 个平方的小物 我怎么去生活 那个东西对我 就后来思考说 我们小二美不见得 一定要大什么高 这个是有影响的 他表达了另外一种生活方式 也很美好的生活方式的可能 世间的多样性 我为什么提到这本书呢 是因为他里面提到一个中国人 好像叫陆罗 叫汪南 那这个人正好 我买到这本书以后 不久我看了那个 时频道的迷失东京 就时频道就是 B 站的一个up主 里面也谈到这个人他在他里面有很强的一个段落是在讲日本的黑棒文化然后呢他的饰演就是从这个汪南这个人他是一个东北人后来他他年轻的时候去日本自己建立了一个日本的黑棒法包括他还谈到全盛世纪的黑棒和现在这个可能慢慢有些衰落的黑棒的生态什么样的那个片子拍了没多久汪南又被逮捕进去了然后呢 吉尽人那边梳理的採访又是另外一个切片 他从监狱里出来还在做很多公益帮助人 对这个其实在某种程度上他也是无用之事 因为他和现在的工作是毫无关系 对对对 当然有的时候他会让我联想如龙啊 跟那个游戏对啊 但是谁知道呢 因为这个有可能就成为了你的文化基因之一 是 是 之后有可能如果pilot做一个黑帮游戏的时候 他就可以发挥很大的作用了 是 是 然后 phenomena It's an evolutionary aspect That was the oneatta of the It was the final in quest There was a written and an II was热点讲的是小镇上有一个外星人后面更夸张等到后面就会有未来人什么时空穿越还有超能力者但是呢他描写的故事又是一些特别的日常就特别的琐碎的日常在这种对比之下你就更能理解说他其实不管他用什么样的一些设定但是他就是想反映这个人的日常生活中比如关于友情关于生活今年是你看这些书呀影视作品呀比较多的一年吗还是你一直以来都看很多东西我都挺多的但是我的兴趣会变化比如说以前看美剧喜欢看最早是喜欢看越狱或有的时候看一些比较青春的一些片然后到后面比如有喜欢看超级英雄片我基本上黑袍各种各样的超级英雄包括韩国的也有一个超艺能组也都喜欢看但是这个口味会不断不断的变化我基本上就是韩剧也看日剧美剧动画设例比较杂我有几年是所有的日剧都看因为它每季发一批春夏秋冬四个季节每个季节发的时候大家也差不多各个电视台是在同一个时间点开始发第一集每年有四周的那一周就是大家集体发新剧的时候对 而且B站上会有那个视频会告诉你对吧 新的一季里面 是的 是的 是的 是的 是的 是的 你大概看过这么多以后 你心中大概会有几个重点要看的 是的 有那么两三年 我是所有的第一集 我都要去看一看的 至少看个十几分钟 就感觉自己特别像一个审片员 我也有这个 所以就是我应该跟你分享过 就Pilot这个名字 就是跟美剧的那个试播剂 是一个意思 就是我了解它 就是因为以前下载美剧的时候 它是一个试播剂 试播剂 然后呢 因为我那时候下载美剧 比如说我印象最深的 I was able to download the The English Formos It was just 3-th It was still 3-th It was still a pilot I was born with a pilot I was like, well, there's 4-th But I realized that Pilot is what I did The first-throw thing is similar I went to check out I found out that it was a S-Poji That you why don't use Pilot S-Poji to do the company name I think S-Poji Is a creative to business 商业化的一个临界点 如果你拍了它过了 你就会面临商业化整季的 播出 那我觉得我做的事情 其实就是连接创意和商业化的一个 总结点 那这个状态其实是一个非常微妙的 但是幸福感还蛮高的一个状态 哇对也是我刚开始 分享说为什么我希望我的生活 里面又是有感性的 又是有理性的 就工作于而言我觉得更应该偏商业化 但我日常怎么跟 大家交朋友怎么跟创作人连接 怎么跟那些内容创作人连接 我也希望我有感受 我能感同生受 我能理解他们 他们也能够理解我 我也希望保有这份感性的状态 你会觉得Pilot做到后面 什么叫成功 我最近的一个感受是 如果有目标就会有成功 就是你的目标达成就要成功 但我最近的感受 其实跟你刚才讲的 一开始讲的有点像 就是我最近反而感受是 我看到那个史安娜尔 He was doing a very long book He had a way to say He thought that he was going to build a system Not a goal I think that's what I think I think that's what I think That's what I think That's what I think I want to let the game He in the business He also成立 But the game He is the first thing He's not the first thing He's not the first thing He's got the money That you're a business You need to pay for money You need to pay for everyone Or you need to pay for it So I think I want to build a system It's a system It's a system This is a system I think many people will think This is You know, you're rich Or you're now What kind of situation you can build But I'm sure I'm worried This is what I want to do You're not a way Because you were doing pilot You probably think this is a lot of people It's a lot of people And this year It's been多 or less I think it is like that. You can't really express it. Because you want to do a new new business. And you can't see it in the most part of the world. This is a very simple thing. You do a personal relationship. You write a small book. Who cares? You want to do a company. You don't want to pay for money. You want to think that the company is what? The employees want to pay for money. You want to do a money. that I can't? So you're family-san, no matter şu what to say, much might't like it, which makes certainNEY change. I think that complete the tapi nesse format that there's literally something like that. So I think I am a president. Do something about thateso ecosystem I did my home Cine A low cost is I think 当如果有人认真看了一些采访 或听了博客以后 他对我想做什么事情就有更多的了解 其次呢 我后来就发现 可能也有人 因为我以前是一个挺保守的 其实有点害怕别人不喜欢自己的一种状态 那我现在就经过这个 我就是慢慢的感受到 真实就可能就是他就有观点 观点可能就是有攻击性 或者就是你要做好了 有人可能很喜欢这种状态 有人就不喜欢 I was afraid I was able to raise enough I can say I cannot picture much so I'll notice it I'm like 1% because they become I remember I remember I teach you what I'm doing Is that these people They have this voice We just have a community This is the value of the value You would think In the past You still don't care about yourself Or not like yourself Now that you feel like this Is it because you don't know What you're doing Or you don't know what you're doing So you need to know what you're doing So you need to know what you're doing I was from a little bit of a love I'm not sure what you're doing I actually know many young people If they are from the field of education And then they are out there It's hard to prevent I want to get the other people So what's the success of this This is a very famous thing You say that You know, I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I think I'm a little bit One is I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I like to do some things I like to偷懒 I like to do some things I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I think I'm a little bit I think maybe the biggest thing I just was when I couldn't select the games, I just started some years after I'd be able to get a 줄 of sliding into certain plans. 如果今天深陷在讨好型人格里面的朋友们,你会给他什么样的建议吗?你觉得这个是有一些小建议可以让大家去对冲一下这样的讨好型人格的吗? 挺多的,我觉得这个就要因人而异。我自己分享呢,就觉得它有一些标准。比如说你自己真正想做的事情,比如我想投篮,我想玩。 I don't think I'm going to watch a movie. I don't think I'm going to watch a movie. I'm going to watch a movie. I'm going to watch a movie. I'm going to watch a movie. That's my mind. That's my love to be honest. This is worth you to see. You can see it. So you have a sense of what you do. You don't want to see it. You can see it. If it's possible to see it. 也能变成你的一些专业技能那就很好 然后第二呢我是现在我也感受就年轻人如果说不具备这个条件 可能去找到一个最小循环的一种安全感还是要的 就可能不要在那里消耗就不要左思右想说我到底应该完全的做自己 但你又很痛苦还是说我爱我应该积累 那实在不行就是保留你心中的活种先去积累 先让自己安全感得到一些满足 最小循环的安全感这个循环指的是什么 我觉得就是东京八平房里面那个屋子 比如说通常我们人可能你需要一个空间 你需要一份日常你相信的一个专业性的技能 那种技能导致你不断的去换公司 或者不断的去在哪个城市生存 或者在哪里你都觉得我可以 而不是局限于说我在某一个大厂 或者某一个点 比如说我们说中产这个货产三千套 我觉得那你说那些中产的人他肯定在这个社会当中他的赚钱能量或者养活自己能力是不敌的但是你在这个基础上你是说我要是不是要买更好的房子我是不是一定要让小孩读很好的书你是把自己架上去的但你大概率来说那未必是你一定必须的那个循环那我需要养活自己或让我体现安全感的那些要素是什么哪些是外界赋予我的我不得不从众的可能是别人的期盼比如说父母周遭的那些期盼我觉得就有可能是开始分辨一下但不着急说 我一定要拒绝 我觉得这两个都很有意思 有时候是知一行男吧 就刚才我们说破产三千号 就大家其实知道这个没有什么意思 和奢侈品一样没什么意思 但是还是忍不住 就是要去想要拥有它 想要购买它 所以我觉得有时候就看看东京八平米 这样的书 或者其他还能想到的 就人间百态的世间万象的 这些故事 其实是可以让自己的心变得宽一点 你会发现其实有各种各样的活法而很多活法其实他们过得说不定比你还开心你刚刚说到这个我再分享一个我觉得还有一个就是选择身边的款境就我也是因为我搬到我跟就现在你手指的我这些朋友们交朋友我去看他们的生活状态我也被他们影响了我肯定以前是一个更捐的生活状态那我被影响了所以我觉得有的时候适当的改变一下生活的状态的不用极致你不用说一下子我是不是就 And then it becomes a A It's not that And I think Many people say They're in the job I was thinking The word means In the job Your friends Your friends They don't want you to succeed But actually If you have faith You can find a job In this job And you're in the job You're hoping you'll succeed I think that's That's what I'm looking for The whole thing Is天翻地覆 This I'm curious Maybe because Because we're in the game 行业比较单纯 我就很早就进入了 你后面说 大家都希望互相成功的状态 这个职场有图这个状况 就以你所知 是一个常见状态吗 我觉得还挺常见的 因为很多地方的竞争 它是一块蛋糕 但是游戏不太一样的地方 游戏是百花其放 而且我把你搞掉了 我自己做的不好 我也赚不到钱 你做好了 不意味着你把我的钱赚走了 因为你做好了 如果我也能做得好 那我们是一起赚钱 明白 是跟我游戏行业的 比如商业模式 包括用户可以去不断的消费 新的游戏内容 我觉得是有关 可能不在一些传统行业 这个行业其实还是蛮幸福的 而且我感觉做这个行业的人 10个里面有9个 还是真的热爱这个行业 而你对一个事情有热爱 你很自然的就会出现一些单纯的状态 就是没有那么多算计 或者算盘 If you're a person who doesn't like games He'll do games Actually, he's very painful And this is quite a bit difficult Yes, because we're playing games For example, there are some kind of skills You can say that if you don like games You can say that if you don like games You can say that in the internet Now AI You have many more can get better For the way of The choice of ways You can do games 哎 我们刚才推荐了书 电影 电视剧 有没有什么其他的年度精神单品 比如举个例子 我就觉得今年拉布布也给我带来非常多的快乐 心情好的时候买一个 心情不好的时候也买一个 那我推荐大家买辆自行车 买辆自行车 但也不用 骑个共享单车也行 确实 就是我意思就是说用自己的脚步不要有一个壳和周遭的世界产生的一个 Maybe you go on the road, you drive the car, and you drive the car, and you drive the car, and you drive the car, I think... Not quite a bit. I just don't... It's not like the weather, so I just drive the car, I feel very happy. I think what is my精神 product? My精神 product is a cup of coffee. I really like to drink a coffee, and a coffee, and a coffee. So I think... 你每次如果看到一个因为杯子也很小 你想到达布博和杯子不是差不多大小 对其实可以买很多杯子 买很多你收集你家庭的地方 但是如果你觉得很高兴我就买一个 然后你喝茶的时候你想到说 哎这是我在哪里买的 很舒服 那我喝东西的时候 就还是原 就是到你日常很喜欢的那个 那个那个点上面 那你现在有最喜欢的一个杯子吗 它是从哪来的 好多个 嗯 好多个 就各种各样旅游当中来的 leavו when you get to that point, Students tell you this book, It gives you that旅行記返 is what or what kind of surreal, Investing back to you. you just said too clouded,斉 license I fell catalyst when I feel bad, I wanted to go to another place, because I could pick up and fly once again. Don't hear me quite happy. There's a question. People exchange for what is what? 会说出,立即说出一个吗? 不会太多了,包括我还没说的,像体育啊,什么就也有,就是我觉得是和人有关的娱乐,消费的类似的都算,你看我们也很喜欢去找地方吃啊,或者怎么样,这也算啊,就是我也不知道了,这个饮食算什么?其实我觉得很多人说他喜欢美食背后不是真的喜欢美食的我觉得那其实是喜欢获得新的体验因为吃在去一家餐厅的过程当中他占的比重说实话我觉得是有限的更多还是你去消费了一个新的空间你去消费了一个新的体验这么说还是你看我去比如说我去乌镇也是一旦推荐我去他觉得说这个是成人的迪斯尼我去感受一下然后其实很多就是他那个开幕大戏什么的时候我也看不懂 But then there was a good one I think was a good feeling That's the experience Yeah, the anime music I went to the first届 I watched the 5th time I was able to see the 5th time But I still feel very good It was a good thing You can't feel the feeling of the feeling of the atmosphere That's the feeling We'll talk about the 2016 If you don't talk about the very passionate plan The goal of the goal of the year If you talk about the 2016 What do you think of the hope? What do you think of? I think it's a good thing I think it's a good thing pilot有一些项目能够上线就是相对它有一些阶段性的能够让这个组织里面的其他的同学伙伴们开始有一个项目上线或者说产生正向先行流能够围绕着它去迭代运作因为我觉得那个大家需要的一种比较舒服的感觉对所以我觉得如果到达那个状态呢应该我可以更投烂对可以更自由对然后我自己还是有很多的兴趣 So these new shows I hope in 2016 there will be more and more. And I actually... Because we all know that we can do. I thought it was very good. I was actually a little bit thinking about it. I had a few questions. I was thinking about it. But if you let me go back to this point, I've experienced what I've seen. I've seen what I've seen. I've seen a lot of things. It's like a follow-up. 这个怎么没有预期到有这么美妙的体验? 这是一种 然后第二种呢就是你一直很想要 就压抑压抑就投入嘛 就是我们投入投入投入到某个点 你的投入全部给你回馈了 而还超越预期的回馈 那个就是压抑和释放嘛 其实这个就跟目标的获取相关嘛 但因为我第二种已经没了 以我而言就是我刻意的不管是训练 还有人生感受也好 就基本就取消了 所以我基本就第一种 但第一种你说随着我们对人生的体验的 就是丰富 You can't have a feeling Wow, it's beautiful to see Right? I can't imagine I can't imagine I can't imagine I think it's to the火星 I think it's to the火星 Actually, it's a pretty painful So I think it's not a beautiful to see It's a very good experience It's a very good experience Or has more of the more In this process, it's a good experience It's a good experience And also, there's a song called It's a good experience It's a good experience 歌名就不祝你生日快乐也不祝你新年快乐就祝你平日快乐 这可能是最有价值的祝福 哎那个你刚刚这么说我就有一个感觉说嗯 靠近是个文艺青年哇我我经常跟你聊我就发现哦原来你也这么文艺 就我好奇是你日常比如说跟跟做美一期节目的时候 你聊的更多的事还是是自己那个状态 十字路口因为关注我们的用户多数还是AI行业的从业者 大家肯定想听的都是AI行业在发生什么 或者一位创业者他在做什么项目 他为什么做这个项目 他认为自己看到了哪些机会 大家希望有些启发嘛 然后我们也会时不时的有一些这个行业的观察者或者投资人 他们就会从行业视野来讲 那其实大家都是希望从这里获得知识 或者获得灵感 理解 这个栏目的这个 存聊生活呢 这个其实生活这方方面面比我好的 大家去小红书什么看就也不用 我觉得我的点就是那个生活和工作的平衡 因为我的能力还是在于做公司 做商业 做游戏嘛 我肯定没有放弃说给大家 比如说好的游戏 做一家好的公司 但我同时又注重生活 我就想说有可能我能分享 包括我的人生经历 我一直觉得我是一个平常人 小生做体价这么多年了 在可能去承扎 当过以前的员工 比如说这么多的岗位 怎么成长如此 我觉得我有可能能够分享 我感兴趣的就是找朋友们 而且我身边的朋友们 我就欣赏的包括你啊 我觉得大家就是一边在生活 一边在工作 所以我觉得可能那个栏目 我最心想出的就是要 以人作为节点 我们在交流的过程中 去分享彼此的生活和工作 我觉得这个是 其实今天挺稀缺的东西的 就是今天多数创业者 企业家 呈现在公众面前的都是事业的一面嘛 嗯 但其实你知道我们的身边的朋友也都是干这些的对吧 其实你和他们聊下来 每个人其实都还是有自己生活里面有趣的一面的 那其实我觉得让大家多看看这种东西 你会发现 其实它是某种能量 哦 其实也不是非得一天24小时都工作才能取得事业的成就 其实你可以在一种平衡状态下去追求到又有成绩 然后又有自洽 或者顺着你应该有另外一个目的 是我觉得正像你所说 就是因为在我的角度 我可能跟大家聊 跟大家看到的是你们另外一面 比方说对吧 我看到你一面肯定不是你跟那些AI的大家去聊 我只能在你的节目里听到 我日常接触是你生活的一面 但是我们展示给外界的 或者大部分的那些创业的 或者商业上面的一些成功人 它是这个 因为用户喜欢你 可能你表达的也是这个 so, will become, actions are but would Cup of Mes churches of AT&D Even if you have SHIT or should have done niceお願いします orグ prop�트 what also comes out first level怎么做设计但是你发现其实除了设计他的生活也很丰富像你刚才说小岛那本书大家知道他可能是他在讲怎么做游戏但后来你发现他的文化精英那么的丰富就是我觉得会对这个世界都更热爱一点是我觉得更热爱或者有一种心定就是会有一种说你以前想了这么多乱七八糟有的时候你想就是我会忍不住在我特别是以前很多年有种责备以前我刚开始说传奇那时候的传奇就特别枯燥 You just Radio You don't know what you know I was talking to you 가져 you But what happened to me After deutsche Because my Wobb What I did I thought Look I haven't worried about but do you realize oh It doesn't I OK. 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