The Shotgun Start

LIV down bad postponing events, Trump Doral returns to Tour, and the Signature Event bubble

56 min
Apr 28, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

The hosts discuss LIV Golf's financial struggles and event postponements, Trump Doral's return to the PGA Tour schedule, and the emerging 'Signature Event' structure that's creating scheduling chaos. They also cover the PGA Tour's week ahead including the Cadillac Championship at Trump National Doral and analyze player performances across golf and other sports.

Insights
  • LIV Golf is in severe financial distress, losing $40-55 million per event with minimal sponsorship revenue, forcing the organization to postpone the New Orleans event and explore exhibition-style tournaments as a cost-cutting measure
  • The PGA Tour's return of Trump Doral as a Signature Event appears to be a political bargaining chip rather than a competitive necessity, evidenced by the absence of top-5 players (Rory, Xander, Fitzpatrick, Ludvig) and questionable sponsor exemptions
  • The proliferation of high-purse events ($20M+) without corresponding player participation suggests unsustainable economics across professional golf, mirroring the LIV problem at the traditional tour level
  • Equipment changes late in career (Justin Rose with McLaren irons) represent unnecessary risk-taking when players have already secured substantial earnings and should focus on major championships
  • The DP World Tour's chatbot customer service issues reflect broader operational inefficiencies that frustrate stakeholders and damage brand perception
Trends
Professional golf's economic model is increasingly unsustainable, with both LIV and PGA Tour events burning capital faster than they generate revenueTop-tier player consolidation around major championships and select events, with players strategically avoiding lower-priority tournaments regardless of purse sizePolitical and business leverage being used to secure tour scheduling rather than competitive merit or fan interest (Trump Doral case study)Equipment sponsorship deals losing appeal for established players who can self-fund and prioritize performance consistency over brand partnershipsSignature Event structure creating scheduling conflicts that force players to choose between competing high-purse events, fragmenting fieldsExhibition and secondary-tier tournaments emerging as potential pivot points for struggling tours facing cash flow crisesCustomer service automation (chatbots) creating friction in professional sports organizations without improving efficiency or satisfaction
Topics
LIV Golf financial sustainability and event postponementsTrump National Doral return to PGA Tour schedulePGA Tour Signature Events structure and player participationProfessional golf purse inflation and economic viabilityEquipment sponsorship decisions for established playersDP World Tour operational challengesPlayer earnings and compensation modelsSchedule conflicts in professional golfExhibition tournament formatsGolf course design and difficulty (Doral redesign)Senior golf majors and eligibilityPrivate equity in professional sports (Patrick Cantley PE fund)MLB and NBA player performance analysisPGA Tour Club Pro ChampionshipInternational golf tour operations
Companies
LIV Golf
Primary focus: facing severe financial distress, postponing New Orleans event, losing $40-55M per event, exploring ex...
PGA Tour
Discussed regarding Signature Events structure, Trump Doral return, scheduling conflicts, and player participation is...
DP World Tour
Mentioned for chatbot customer service issues and as potential destination for LIV players seeking contingency plans
Trump National Doral
Returned to PGA Tour schedule as Signature Event with $20M purse despite absence of top-5 players
McLaren
Equipment partnership with Justin Rose for new iron line, representing late-career equipment change strategy
Taylor Made
Mentioned as equipment manufacturer in context of Justin Rose's equipment decisions
Patriot Coin
Cryptocurrency company that commissioned the gold Trump statue at Doral
Champ (Private Equity Fund)
Patrick Cantley's $500M athlete-led consumer private equity fund with Mike Trout and Kevin Durant
Golf Channel
Broadcast partner for multiple PGA Tour events including Cadillac Championship and regional tournaments
CBS Sports
Broadcast partner providing weekend coverage for Cadillac Championship and other signature events
Facebook Marketplace
Platform mentioned in personal anecdote about garage sale desk transaction
Venmo
Payment platform mentioned in garage sale transaction story with goods/services fee implications
People
Andy
Primary host discussing golf industry trends and scheduling issues
Brendan
Co-host providing analysis and one-and-done picks for tournaments
PJ
Provides tournament analysis and sports commentary on golf and other sports
Scott O'Neill
Quoted regarding LIV's funding through 2026 and postponement of New Orleans event
Jeff Landry
Issued statement regarding LIV Golf event postponement and partnership continuation
Rory McIlroy
Notable absence from Cadillac Championship despite top-5 world ranking
Xander Schauffele
Notable absence from Cadillac Championship despite top-5 world ranking
Matt Fitzpatrick
Discussed as currently best player in world, making $10-15M annually, expecting child
Ludvig Aberg
Notable absence from Cadillac Championship despite top-10 world ranking
Bryson DeChambeau
Reported to be taking meetings with other tours, potential LIV departure candidate
Cameron Young
Selected as one-and-done pick for Cadillac Championship at Doral
Victor Hovland
Selected as one-and-done pick for Cadillac Championship
Justin Rose
Discussed for switching to McLaren irons late in career, potential equipment risk
Patrick Cantley
Launched $500M Champ private equity fund with Mike Trout and Kevin Durant; withdrew from Cadillac Championship
Mike Trout
Co-founder of Champ private equity fund with Patrick Cantley and Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Co-founder of Champ private equity fund with Patrick Cantley and Mike Trout
Scotty Scheffler
Notable absence from Cadillac Championship despite recent major wins
Alex Fitzpatrick
In Cadillac Championship field; brother of Matt Fitzpatrick
Michael Block
Club pro competing in PGA Club Pro Championship, inside top 20 rankings
Jordan Smith
Entering Signature Events swing, competing with Jordan Spieth for best Jordan on tour
Quotes
"Liv is currently exists. It's totally aft. Totally. I mean, they're down bad."
Brendan~25:00
"Every time we run an event, we burn $60 million... Their shortfall per event is still $40 million."
Andy~28:00
"Like other general companies, we are trying to grow by attracting investment and expanding profits."
Scott O'Neill (quoted)~32:00
"No Rory, no Xander, no Fitz... like 20 million. This is insane."
Brendan~45:00
"It feels like they were like, we need to get Trump back on the schedule. It's a bargaining chip."
Andy~48:00
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is April 29th. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! I'm doing alright. I actually am a bit confused today. Oh gosh. What are you confused about? Well, I got in. I had a question. I entered an online queue right before we got on. And it said... The quarter. One of these things? No, no, no. Like one of those chats, since people don't have any people in there. You can't pick up a phone and call. You have to do the chat. I hate it. So I was... There's three people that said there's three chats in the queue. But my place in line was five. Okay. I understand. So there's three people ahead of me, but I'm in the fifth place. Who else is in there? One of my kids' math problems that I'm supposed to figure out, but there may be just no answer. I hate those bot things. They're terrible. Worse, if they always take so long, it's like, what are the chances of me just sitting in front of my computer? Like it holds you hostage to being in front of your computer. That's terrible. So if I lose my train of thought ever, you'd know that I finally got up. What's your question? I'd love to disclose. Garage sale tactic or something. It's not garage sale. It's not garage sale. One of those things that pops up drives me insane is the DP World Tour. Why do they need a chatbot? Why do they need a chatbot? I don't understand. Every time I go to the website, if you look at the leaderboard or tea time or something, you just get popped with this chatbot. We should be asking the chatbot questions about Toby Tree. Yeah. Like what's Nacho Elvira up to today? Just start asking questions. Humor has a fallout from the garage sale. Okay. What happened? So we had a desk that didn't sell. That was a nice desk. And my wife posted it on Facebook Marketplace. Place to buy stuff. So anyways, a woman offered whatever to buy it discounted from the price. My wife says, yes. She's striving to pick it up. And she said, I didn't realize I was going to have to cross a bridge, which is $10. Is it okay to take the $10 off the price? I mean, that's her mistake. That's not your problem. I mean, can I just say something? You live in the F in San Francisco Bay Area. The odds are you're crossing a bridge at some point. Anyways, my wife says at this point she just wants the desk gone. You kind of got her over a barrel. Either you're crossing, I mean, your wife's got the upper hand here, I would say, in negotiations. Well, she just was like, she's a college kid. You know, it is what it is. Yeah. $10 can go a long way. So she says, okay. So then she venmos her, but she marks it as goods and services. So he got dinged more money off the purchase price. There's a fee or something? Yeah, like she didn't put paying a friend. She put paying goods and services. So we got dinged again. And then it's nine o'clock. She's picking up the desk. I've put it outside. It's a small desk. It's nine o'clock. My wife gets a message. I was like basically in bed. Yeah. So tired. Can you have it loaded or something? She needs a wrench to take apart the desk. Because it doesn't fit in the car. Oh my God. So you're out there in the curbs. You're ready to go to bed. Disassembling a desk. You should have just taken an axe, a hatchet to the thing three days ago. For this woman who offered less than we wanted, then deducted $10 for the bridge. And then an additional fee knocked off. And then I got to disassemble it for labor costs. You could have not built nosedead. Was there a last name for Telly looking for bridge fare? I could assure you she was not related to Dylan for Telly. I want to pay in the ass. That sounds like. I just would be, I'd be losing. And then you got to interact. You got to socialize. You got to go out on the curb. She could tell that I was not happy about what was going on. If it's a college kid, I understand it. The bridge fare, I guess that matters. All right. Well, you're slowly but surely getting through the garage sale. And the after the sort of blast radius of said sale. Good news, Richard. The chatbot is ready for me. Should start calling him Rich. Would you like to go by Rich? Richie? Dick? Or Dick. That's, that could be any of the above. Richard Teeter. Dick Teeter. He's playing. The Turkish Airlines open this weekend. Good to have him back on tour. I asked someone over there. We have voices on the ground. If this is the one where they play off the top of the condo, the T box off the condo, it is not different. There's a burgeoning Turkish golf scene. There's like 30 or 40 courses there now. So it's not the T box on the roof. I mean, Turkey's doing better than live. Yeah. Tough scene for live right now. Tough scene. New Orleans, state of Louisiana and live have not parted ways, but postponed maybe mutually unclear. Early reports out of New Orleans on Monday afternoon said it's off. This isn't happening. Louisiana doesn't want it because they have concerns about the financial stability of what's going on with live. That don't think that was quite the case. It seems like maybe live called them and they both hashed it out and said, let's postpone it to the fall, which just feels like, I mean, the fall is kind of soon. You can't just say, let's do it another time, but that other time is specific to the fall, but we don't have a specific date. That's coming pretty soon. Then we get a statement from the governor of Louisiana and the secretary, and that governor is a total yahoo, total clown been shouting at the about NCAA, this, that and the other NIL. Remember that Landry guy? Yeah. He sounds like a little mouse. Did he have something to do with the when they hired Lane Kiffin? Did he say something to? I think he said something then. Yeah. I mean, Louisiana is just an absolutely rich pageant of chaos down there, especially at the government level. Oh, I love it. But I mean, it's so ridiculous. It's great. And they issue a statement from Jeff Landry in Louisiana Economic Development Secretary, bourgeois, which is just a very Louisiana name, doesn't have a first name. He's just bourgeois or he or she, I don't know. First, they lead their statement with first, we want to thank Zurich and the PGA tour, all caps, official nomenclature of PGA tour leadership for another outstanding tournament this past weekend. We are proud of the continued partnership and opportunities this event brings to our state each year. Secretary Bourgeois spoke with LiveGolf Scott O'Neill on Friday. It was informed that the organization seeks to postpone its June 2026 event to explore a potential event this fall. So that makes it sound like Liv initiated this and Louisiana just didn't shut it off at the knees. So they go on and on about the money and they want some of it back, but except they've invested it in the city park. We appreciate Liv's good faith efforts and look forward to maintaining our partnership as we continue conversations around an event later this year. So that's off. There's no events really in all of June. There's nothing really going on for Liv. They have one of Virginia here in a week. I may try to get over for that. And then that's it. There's no way to warm up for the U.S. Open. What? A mid-May and Trump, Virginia? That's all they got. No, there's not having any events. Oh, yeah. This is the best way. I don't know if I want to go to New Orleans in June. You know, just sweat it out. I don't know if I want to be doing that either. It's just some uni. I don't know. Good alligator content. Well, that's not going to help for the U.S. Open. There are no Gators at Chittacock as far as I know. New Orleans golf in June seems to be most like golf on the east end of Long Island in June. Yeah, right. Exactly. Exactly like that. I'm interested in the smaller exposition events. What is that? Someone gave that statement to Joel Beale. Is that what it was? Yeah. Did they mean exhibition? It's a smaller exposition style tournament this fall. I mean, that's a storytelling device where you insert background info. That's not like an event. Like exhibition, expo. Do you think it was an exhibition? Maybe, but that doesn't speak highly. You're just taking real events and then putting an exhibition. What's going on? Honestly, I was thinking about this. Liv is currently, I've said this, I think last episode, but Liv is currently exists. It's totally aft. Totally. I mean, they're down bad. It's totally aft. Okay. Like nobody is signing up. It is like the of, hey, every time we run an event, we burn $60 million. We take $60 million. It's 30. Well, that doesn't include the purse. Oh, sure. Got you. $30 million to run it. And then what's the purse? $30 million, $25. I think it's like 25. So we just flush $55 million down a drain every time. And before people say, oh, we have sponsors, none of these deals are very, are for a lot of money. No. So part and parcel, let's just say this is, I think this is like an extreme, extremely giving them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. To say that they make $15 million an event. I don't think it's anywhere near that. Yeah. I think they probably bring in a million or two per event. Revenue. But let's just say that they bring in $15 million. Their shortfall per event is still $40 million. There's no, nobody is going to look at that and be like, this is a great opportunity. This is, this is awesome opportunity. This 12 event circuit or whatever amount of events they have loses $40 million per event. To that point, Scott O'Neill spoke to a Korea business newspaper, which is where you go when you want to make big announcements. Confirmed funding through 2026. I mean, there's only like six months left in 2026. Quote, we have secured all the operating funds for the 2026 season. Live golf, which marks its fifth anniversary this year is working hard to create an environment where it can grow on its own. Again, seems hard based on what you just sort of outlined in your prior statements. Like other general companies, we are trying to grow by attracting investment and expanding profits. What a just absolute vacuous bit of error that is. There's nothing. You know what they're trying to do? They're trying to secure investment so that they can host one event next year. Maybe with like 12 guys. Like other general companies, we are trying to grow by attracting investment and expanding profits. That means nothing. So he's confirmed that they do have funding, but they need to find investment opportunities. We get the... So anyways, this is the exposition or exhibition depending on which verb you... Words you want to use. I was thinking about this. I think they're only path. They have to do this now. If I personally was running live at this point, I would say no more regular events are being held at this point. I would get off the hook for every dollar I possibly can so that we have a semblance of cash in the bank going into next year. Maybe we could do something, pull off some miracle. Do you think the conditions, the Saudi money for 2026, the conditions are you have to operate live as it is? You can't just put it under your mattress and say it's for next year? I don't know. I would be trying everything though. But anyways, what I was thinking about is like, okay, what could you just transition to that's having success that if you brought big time players in, you might have a shot? I think they should fully transition to YouTube golf. Yeah, not a bad idea. They're like full transition. We are doing no more live broadcasts. Nobody watches them. No one. Nobody watches our product. Nobody cares about our product. And we're losing 40 to 55 million dollars in event. Scale it down dramatically and offer it to Grant Horvat and people of that ilk who will happily take whatever. All of a sudden you might actually have a chance of making money, which is what you have to do. You have to show that this is not just like, hey, do you want to come give us a billion dollars and watch us flush it down the toilet in like two years, which is what their current investment opportunity is. Then try to cater to a few of those international markets occasionally with this YouTube iteration or no, no live golf. Maybe do it up in Adelaide and do the Reinhardt five again. Okay, all right. They have to build an audience. They've never built an audience. No, of course not. This thing never had. It was hastily thrown together with a lot of money. They're down bad, Andy. It feels like they're hanging on by a strain right now. New Orleans thing announced. We're not doing that. Confirmed funding. A report in today's golfer by Ben Parsons, I believe, saying that several people have reached out, live players have reached out to the DP World Tour to see if they can land there as a contingency plan to start the soft landing. I think, you know, they're golden goose or one of them Bryson. Probably looking around reports that the masters he was taking meetings, like that could come at any moment. Who knows? Like it just feels like things are really, really tenuous right now for live as you would expect. And like Bryson says, you know, in June, I'm done. You're kind of cooked there. At least the current thing that doesn't have a lot of interest anyways is. So I was thinking today, once last time they had like good news, there are a pretty bad run of like Kepka, Reed, Saudis out Bryson, you know, looking around the room. What? How dare you? I know you weren't on the one we talked about this, but Smash rebranded Oklahoma City Golf Club. That's great news. Smash fans have shoulders are cry on and super Sonic fans. Their colors and history stolen by Oklahoma City. They're just down bad. Like the only thing they've had like that felt positive is I guess South Africa was positive generally. And Anthony Kim was a big story there, but that feels now like years ago. I think Anthony Kim, I guess South Africa probably was. It feels like the end is nigh, certainly. The New Orleans thing feels really, really like another kind of canary in the coal mine and should Bryson or any other players. You wonder what John Romp's thinking these days. He's I assume one of the people I have no info at all. But you have to think a lot of guys are like, can I jump to the DP World Tour? Does this potentially solve Romp's DP World issue? You could just claim he won. He didn't blink. He didn't give in. My league just can't fold it. And so therefore I'd never acquiesced. Maybe it does. Maybe it does by a dare manner when live ceases to exist. The best is that if Romp, if this very real situation might just fold up here, Romp goes back to the DP World Tour. What are the chances of Romp citing DP World, the European Tour history, and, you know, Sevi and some watching old European Tour tournaments and how much he loves the European Tour within six months of live shutting off. This is where I've meant to play. This is where I need to be as a student of history. Yeah, that could be the party line. Romp's not done himself many favors on the brand front in the last 12 months. So live. We've got Virginia next week. Got Korea end of May. Valderrama right after that. So they go Korea Valderrama, then the U.S. Open. And then we're going to JCB the week after the open, the, you know, Inland's UK course, Great Britain course, Bedminster and Chatham Hills. That's Indianapolis and Michigan. God, just not a lot of action, not a lot to look forward to. We'll see how many of those happen. Michigan might be the last live event ever. Unless this Bayou Oaks at City Park in Louisiana thing happens at some point. The exposition event. The exposition in the fall? I don't know. We might be going to Louisiana in the fall. We might be going down there. Maybe we could hit this. Exposition. It'd be amazing if the exposition overlapped with our event. If you're interested in our events, check out thefriedegg.com. A lot of events go in live. We have Pasa Tiempo. We're hosting an event there on July 27. Feels like a good time to play in that region of the world. Yeah. It's a great time to play. Tampa Restoration was done by Jim Merbina a couple of years ago. Santa Cruz is just a delightful spot. If you're looking to travel in, you got the boardwalk. That's a kid favorite if you're bringing the whole family. If you want to do a little California vacation. Man, one of the best golf courses in the world. You can play more than one round and spend the evening overlooking the Monterey Bay. 27-hole event, full day at Elastor, McKenzie's Pasa Tiempo. Fresh off the Green Restoration Project. We also have Mountain Ridge in New Jersey for an August 10th coming open as well. That is a 36-hole event day at Donald Ross' Mountain Ridge. Brian Schneider said the Greens are, quote, as good a set of Greens as Ross has ever built. Schneider would know about Ross. Ross would know about Greens. He's got a lot of competition out there. So, Mountain Ridge with add-on opportunities at maybe Plainfield, North Jersey Country Club, Essex County Country Club that Tuesday, August 11th. Lots of opportunities. Sign up for a wait list if they're full. Email Will. Just email him anything. You can even ask him a question about, you know, how he thinks of the Cubs season so far. Whatever you want to ask him at events at thefriedegg.com. Hey, Peach, speaking of Cubs Minute, is Moises Biosteros the most enjoyable Major League Baseball player right now? I don't know about Moes, but he's great. He's wonderful to watch. Bowling ball. Big man hit ball far. Have you seen this guy? I love that they had him catch last night for the first time. I mean, it's just great. Is this the burly boy? 22. He's five foot seven. And he's on a list of at 195. I don't think he's less than 240. He's at 195. He's like at least 30 pounds. He's like a great hand-beano. He's just rolling around. He's literally a bowling ball. Short choppy steps around the bases just like really flies around. That's great. Cubs are doing well, right? Cubs are looking like a potential World Series team. I just see the red. Our bullpens disarray though. Everybody's injured. I see a lot of Red Sox fans very angry about Breckman not being on their team anymore as they are. They fire people and he's doing well for the Cubs. He's a great locker room guy. All right. He's paid 200 million and the first thing people bring up is how good he is in the locker room. It's been a tough run with the ball frogs losing and now the natives are restless with the Red Sox. That's to extend Cubs' minute, but I'll just see myself out after this. Do you notice who we've talked about the Cubs for two minutes now? You notice whose name has not come up at all in this conversation. PCA. Thank you. Is he just a chopper? He's garbage. Garbage. I'm glad you all enjoyed that first half. My work here is done. You were on that one. PCA is working his way back, all right? Also working his way back. Continues to deliver incredible catch attempts that are new. Catch attempts. Okay. Do you remember last year when he jumped for the ball that was like 60 feet out above the wall? That's right. Yeah, one other night. That's right. That's good. It's worth about the effort, maybe not the result with him. He keeps talking shit about LA fans too. Who is? PCA. PCA. What's he saying? Dodgers fan hate him. Just for saying. Interesting. I don't know if I'd try to antagonize the Dodgers at this stage. Somebody asked you, we might be the only team that can beat the Dodgers. Working his way back as well to Aranamac is Michael Block. God, I've been watching this at night. He's inside the core bridge financial team. Top 20. He's posting social media videos. This has been an interesting watch. Kind of peaceful serene to watch Band and Dunes at night. It's a way to at least make the PGA Club Pro pop in a way. Imagine that. Watching golf at night is peaceful and serene, especially golf on the ocean. This is not a highly advanced calculus problem of how to make golf. The Club Pro Tournament, that's the event of the week. Did you just talk yourself into that or was that playing? It is the event of the week. Because it's awesome. I've got two more rounds. It is a delight with it on prime time. Trip Eisenhower at Band and Dunes. What a great event. It's six to nine on Wednesday night. Golf channel will be the final round. Seven to ten on Tuesday if you're listening to this. Got a shout out. There are so many guys in the mix. Alex Hoffman shouting him out local. Big shotgun startlister. How about the Bitcoin boy? I mean, get out of here. The guy played 150 PGA Tour events. Charlie Belgian, PGA Tour winner. He won the Disney thing, right? I think so, yeah. Miracle network kids, whatever it is. I had someone in front of the program who probably wants to remain nameless. Suggest that we should do, call something the Eresti Cup. We're Corbridge financial pros. Play reinstated amps. So former PGA Tour pros like Omar Eresti, Charlie Belgian, Justin Hicks. People like that go up against Justin Huber. Yes. John Peterson, Bobby Massive, Bobby Wyatt, people like that. So we'll call it the Eresti Cup. Seems like a good idea. Just a lot of people angrily tweeting about them. Be actually phenomenal. Yeah. Charlie Belgian is going to get there. He's going to get to the PGA championship. Former Tour Pro, hothead, big Crip Bitcoin guy. So he's going to get there unless he really collapses over the last day and a half. So there's your event of the week. Didn't plan to go there. Let's get into the real schedule for the week. We have the Cadillac championship. Not the WGC Cadillac championship. The Cadillac championship at Trump National Dural Blue Monster in Miami. This is three to seven PM Thursday and Friday on Golf Channel. 12 to three on Saturday and Sunday with the three to six finish on CBS on Saturday and Sunday. I don't believe they, you know, they typically did not have this event when it was at Dural. Florida Swain on NBC. So we're going back. Are we in the Catalan zone still or is Jim warming up in the bullpen? I would assume Jim is going to be there, but given the way the players have refused to patronize this, it could be in the Catalan zone. Andy, this is insane. There's no Rory, no Xander, no Fitz, arguably the best player in the world at the minute. No Ludwig, no Bobby McIntyre. That's five of the top, I'd say 12 ish players, Bobby McLudwig kind of being on the outside there. 12. 12. I'm okay. I don't know. We had a whole blowout two weeks ago saying that Bobby Mc wasn't in the top 25. I appreciate 12. That's all I'm saying. Bob McIntyre is like the 30th best golfer. All right. Yeah. Here we go. Cover boy of a golf digest they saw. There's no cut. There's $20 million. This is insane. No Rory, no Xander, no Fitz, like 20 million. We're just, we talk about the live being sort of this just bubble unsustainable goofy money. Then we're doing it again next week at Quail Hollow, which Rory is officially confirmed. Then there's no Scotty. No Scotty. This is insane. Not a political statement at all. Not like Trump, like I see the gold statues, absurd, amusing. It could be anywhere. It doesn't have to be Trump problem. This event, there's no reason why this event exists or why this is all of a sudden back. At least to this point in the schedule in this situation. It feels like they, you know, I've, this is completely speculative here, but it feels like they were like, we need to get Trump back on the schedule. It's a bargaining chip. He's going to help us re-unite the game. We're going to get this back on the schedule and we have to give him a signature event because we have to have the best players in the world doing it. And they threw it here and it's like, wait a second, nobody's going to play all these events. I mean, they have the masters and PGA on each end. Yeah. It's just a crazy, crazy situation and how they kind of structured the schedule. The great news is it seems like this is what our schedules can be next year, basically too. So it was kind of a bargaining chip. Like here it's take sides with us. Meanwhile, Liv has already lit itself on fire. Like they don't need any bargaining power really. But you know, this of course happened in the monahan era and, you know, Jay is just sort of like doing things to survival for next week, you know, get from next week to the next. And that's sort of how we end up with patchwork changes every year and every off season, whether it's status or schedule. And I just put it on the schedule, but this is crazy. And now you got $20 million for it. No, none of the top five, half the top 10 is essentially not there. And you know, you got sponsors exceptions. They went to Max Grazerman, Joel Damon, not exactly making up for Rory. No Rory or Xander or Fitz. Oh, I don't know. You didn't watch Joel Damon's episode in full swing, if you're saying that. And then we got Max Homa and Keith Mitchell rounding it out. Get him home. Listen, I love Max Homa. He's just a sponsor exception merchant. Knocked out of the field was Michael Thorpe Jornsson when Alex Fitz got in. So Thor is out. Meanwhile, you got like for these, you know, Damon and Grazerman and all these others jumping in ahead of them on sponsors. While Thor has to be first, first alternate. That's your that's your current field at the rail. Do you have a one and done pick? Well, before we get to one and done picks, we've got an important segment. I've got a some monitor. I love this. Probably forgot about this. No, I did. I did actually forget about this. PJ get in here. You know, why you're a commentary on these two. Okay. All right. Alex Fitzpatrick in the field wins. Winster Eric with his brother. I will say apologies. I don't think we spend enough time talking about how absurd of a run Matt Fitzpatrick's on. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Not playing this week. You know who's not going to have trouble paying for diapers. Who's that? Matt. He's made a lot of money. They have a lot of money. Well, for God, he's expecting. That's right. Maybe it's the pre-baby perspective bump. Could be. Because I don't foresee any world where the post-baby perspective bump comes in. Well, there's not a lot of room to grow from here. He's third in the world. What do you want him to do? Can I ask you like, I don't, I mean, he's playing the best golf and he deserves all the spoils. Like a tour where Matt Fitzpatrick is making like $10 or $12 million, whatever he's going to make on course. Like that doesn't seem sustainable. He's great. He's the best player going right now. But is he like putting butts in the seats? I don't know. It's interesting. It's a lot of money he's making though. Good for him. I personally have witnessed it. I've seen hordes of fans flooding in wearing their purple to watch Fitzy. Oh, he's made 10 million already. Holy shit. He's going to make $15 million this year. I mean, after the FedEx Cup 2, he's the first in the FedEx Cup. He could make $40 million this year. Okay. All right. He's playing it amazing. All right. So Alex, he's playing Matt. I just, you know, big question to answer. Can he compete on the PGA Tour without his brother? Needs his binky, needs his brother to play. We can't technically rule it out at this point. We're going to find out. He's fine. He'll be good. Maybe he just goes and wins. Up next, we got Cameron Young and Scotty Schaeffler. These are two recent winners of the Gold Boy. The players, are they going to feel at home because the gold man is on the range? The gold man statue of Donald Trump that looms over everything at Derell. Very similar look to the gold boy. It's insane. That statue is insane. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that's real gold? No. No. It's like a wrap. No. It's like a wrap. It's like a wrap. Is that him after he got shot? Yeah. It is. It is exactly what it is. Yes. I did a little digging. Adam Schupack wrote up a wonderful article about the happening surrounding the statue. I wouldn't call it a wonderful article. I enjoyed it. It was absolutely clickbait. It's just open the fire hose of traffic. I'm going to write about Donald Trump's statue. That's what you know, man. Sometimes you get sucked into the fire hose, paid for by some cryptocurrency billionaire Patriot coin. What? Dollar side Patriot. Yep. That's who commissioned the statue. And then Trump was like, hell yeah, we'll put it up on the range. Oh, I didn't know all that. Patriot coin. Patriot coin. All right. All right. Up next, we're moving from gold statues to man that recently launched a private equity fund. Patrick Cantley successfully launches his private equity fund last week. But I got to point out he did. Yeah. Yeah. What was it called? I sent you the article. It's a well, I'll go back to what it's called. But the people, it's an athlete based PE fund. The people who are headlining it alongside Patrick Cantley, you tell me if you think these are on the same level of playoff P here. The fund is called Champ and a $500 million athlete led consumer fund led by playoff P Mike Trout. Definitely on the same level as Patrick Cantley. And I believe I'm reopening the article, but I believe the third one is Kevin Durant. Oh, KD. Yes. Kevin Durant, Mike Trout and Patrick Cantley are your headliners. Mike Trout, Pat Cantley. What a PE fund. But I just point out, launching a PE fund, not an easy thing to do. Do you think he's in the last three starts? T7, T12, T8. So you think it's got him focused? I think he's freed up. Now it's out into the world. Yeah, he's done now. Now he has to sit back and look at distressed death deals. I don't think he's, I wonder how he could be one. I assume Durant has just, you know, put his name on it, whereas he wants to be in it. Kevin Durant hasn't played yet in the playoffs, so TBD on the performance bump. Played once. Trout looks back to vintage Trout. I mean, he's having a great start to the year. Prime Trout stuff we're seeing. Never thought we'd see this again. And Cantley's rounding in the form. This could be what they needed. Question, who's won more meaningful things at their sport? Cantley or Trout? I was going to bring that up. Just running up the stats, making a lot of money, running up the numbers and never doing anything of kind. KD's only win came when he joined the Warriors. We know that. That one's like, yeah, that's like playing ball in hand. I think Kevin Durant is one of the greats. But you could definitely make an argument that he's house cat status. I mean, he's lost a lot of, yeah, just further appreciation for LeBron when you start examining the coming Durant. That's the way to spin it. I like that. Hey, how's it, BP, how are you enjoying the James Harden experience? The calves are just soft as Charmin. Like it's just terrible. Turnovers, turnovers. They lose to the Raptors. Like total disgrace. It's just, we have to shake it up. I don't know what. I mean, Allen and Mowbly are questionable every time you get to this point of the season. Now you've got Mitchell kind of turdling up. Harden's doing hardened things. Yeah, of course. It's nice to just not have expectations. So everyone was good though. Struggling though. You guys didn't trade away a player that went for 43 in a playoff game for four second round picks and Rod, Rob Dillingham and Leonard Miller. So you got that going for you. Yeah, we are relevant in a way. So, um, um, all right, up next, a little diversion. Thanks to Pat and PE funds. Justin Rose. Rosie, putting the new McLaren irons in the bag this week. Are we worried about Rosie maybe wasting, you know, end of end of his career chances with another Anna situation? Anna, out of respect for our Palmer, obviously. Anna. Uh, yeah, this makes no sense. We talked about this a little bit on Monday in a prop two videos, Joseph, like. This guy is so particular, cares about every little detail, has his health trailer to follow him around with the red lights and the massage chairs and the ice baths and all these things. And it just feels like self sabotage. I know that's a bunch of club people from Taylor made and other places and maybe these are just clubs that already exist with a stamp or a brand painted over the top, the McLaren brand over the top of it. Might just be that. But it has to be, right? Yeah, I think it is. Um, but he also, you know, obviously he was doing, I've watched his press comments. I've gone down this path before in 2019, get a lot of learnings from that experience. So maybe he knows how to deal with it now. He, he got burned by Anna and now he knows what he's doing with venturing out into the woods with these, you know, uh, call them sort of green club makers, you know, or brands at least. So kind of insane. Seems unnecessary, especially at this stage of your career. We talked at length about the beauty of just being a free agent. I mean, Matt Fitzpatrick is going to make 15 million. Do you need an equipment deal these days? I don't know. Maybe you do. Maybe it just feels good. Maybe you got a free McLaren car. I was going to say they're going after Ian Polter's got them in the back. So they're going after the English markets. Yeah. Does does the McLaren irons impact how you feel about Polter's chances at the US senior open PJ? Well, you know, he's not going to have anything to play between, you know, for a month and a half. So people are worried about the actual US open. Sayota. I think he'd be more worried about about the live players who are playing the senior open, because those are the real major contenders. Those are the threats. I'm just glad that they're able to play unlike the senior PGA. That's fair. That's fair. All right. Last guy. Not good, right, Andy? He shouldn't be getting new equipment in this stage's career. Rose. Right. I mean, I don't know if it's just the same thing he's been playing with it, but McLaren painted over the base of them. Then fine, that's great. Get your money and sure, you know, hoodwink a bunch of idiots that are buying them for more money than you could buy something else. It's the same thing. Fair. Fair. You know? Yep. All right. Last guy, Jordan Smith. Jordan Smith has entered the signature events swing and he's looking to definitively take over the best Jordan S on tour. The belt. Is he in via A on 10 or something? Yes. OK. He's he's rumbling in. Blood in the water. I saw a speed this top 50 in the world for the first time in however long. Two. That's good. Good for speed. He's on his way back. Might might complete the slam at Iranomake here in a couple of weeks. Who knows? So the battle, we have the Jordan rules here going on. I like that. Do you think he's going to be you think he's going to overtake Jordan speed by the end of the year? Serious question. Wouldn't say no. I would say I think speed probably wins out. But this is not a not a. This is this is not an unfounded competition here. I was real. A big straight up. Yeah. Real debate. Yes. Speed's number 50 now. Number 50. Good for him. Good for him. Big close. Big presumptions. It's close. Do you have a one and done pick for the WGC Cadillac champion or just the Cadillac? Keep calling. Usually you like the long hitters at Dural. You know, yes. That's your big leash. I mean, it's a 7700 yard course. Water, Bermuda wall to wall Bermuda. No overseas. I don't believe. Was an easy course. Then Gil Hans came in. I think once Trump purchased it and made it like very penal, very hard, got some critique from different players as those first few years. I think it was 2014, 13, 14. Oh, we have we have breaking news as it comes to five guys. Some auditor quite literally four minutes ago. We've breaking news. What happened? Patrick Canley has withdrawn from the Cadillac. Oh, God, got to work on the fund. Too much going on. He's got a if you were going to if Canley was one guy from succession, who would he be? He's got to go eliminate some redundancies somewhere. He needs to WD. Is he Kendall? Either Kendall or. Yeah, Kendall's a good choice. Tom. Tom without the personality, which is that like not that's only a joyful part of Tom the goofball centric. Who's Kendall's probably a good choice. I think Kendall's very still. He knows what's going on, but yeah, not doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. That's too bad. Too sad. Um, all right. So he's out. I'm going Cameron Young, 7700 yard golf course. Um, you know, it's hard to find Gil Hans flying the flag for some of the work he did here. This was like, I think Trump just want to make it hard. I think it's going to play challenging. There's water everywhere. A lot of bunkers. Um, we'll see 7700 yards, big, big ballpark. Sort of like you do have to hit like a fair amount of long-ish approach shots. Right. Yeah. Guess it could be like 700 yard. Could be like Bay Hill in that way. Florida, another Florida golf course, I suppose, but, um, I just wasn't missing Doral. I enjoyed it on the floor to swing in March. I've kind of had a piece of my heart then, but, uh, now it's just, I don't know. It's not like we're getting this sort of return of some world class thing. Uh, I'm taking Cameron Young. Who do you got, Peach? We're going to take Victor Hovland. Oh, guy that's better than Bob McIntyre. Right. Uh, I believe we, we had them. I mean, everybody's better than Bob McIntyre to you. So I don't know how far I'm going, but I don't know. He was in contention at, at Hilton Head. This is a total vibes play other than I feel like it's time to have a good Victor Hovland week in Florida. Okay. All right. I've got Godder up. Oh, big boy. That's him. Early boy. Playing decent. Yeah. I like that. There you go. Godder up Cameron Young. Can't lay. Are you excited about Doral returning to a professional DJ Torgolf? Sure. You know, that's your expert opinion. I've, you know, do I like this over the CJ cup? Sure. I have a lot of memories. Maybe we'll do them as a flashback Friday of Doral, you know, Roy throwing the club, Thonchai Jid, struggling with WGC. I think it was Scott Vale went crazy, called it dump international after the redo. A lot of good memories from the early blogging this around, you know, 10 years ago. Um, all right. Uh, elsewhere on the schedule for the week, PJ, you just left. Get your ass back in here. We have the region's tradition. Just who needs another major we do. Champions to our fans. 12 to 230. It doesn't feel major. Like when you only get two and a half hours of coverage on Thursday and Friday, and then three to five 30 and six PM finish on golf channel. Hopefully Zaynir and Papa. Are just slain in it for that. That is a gray stone golf and country club in Birmingham, Alabama. What could be the purse here? 2.6 million. I just hate that. I go to the winter at Doral 2.6 is the total purse. I just say, they move this from the week of the PGA. It was so great coming like from, from the actual PGA and still got a golf channel and seeing these guys shipping balls into the 18th green in the dark. This for a suit, suit golf watchers. You'll know that the carts were driving over balls on the 18th green because it was too dark and they had to finish on Monday. Pato can't win two majors in a week because the senior PGA got moved. They were in this. It's just terrible. I, you know, it was a event of the year last year. Now it's getting its own showcase, which is nice. But we're never going to get get 20, 25 back. Looks like this is actually on the golf channel app for only two and a half hours on Thursday and Friday. Tough scene. I'll be there. I'll be there. You will. I didn't even get notables. They even list notables. Defending champ is on Hell Cabara. Sad. The backboard capital of the world. That 18-gold at Greystone. On the LPGA, we have the Mexico Riviera Maya open at Mayacoba. Just can never have enough professional golf at Mayacoba. God, it's just everywhere. They've had live PGA tourists. This is the El Camaleon golf course. Second plane of this event. The purse is 2.5 million. Defending champ is Chisi Hawaii. Notables, Carlota Seganda, just pace current, clogging up the course. Lynn Grant, Jinhee Im, Aki Aki Hawaii, Chisi Hawaii, Nellie Corta. Is she still in the field as of this publication? Gabby Lopez, Maria Jose Marin. This will be on Golf Channel 10 to 12 noon Thursday, Friday, 5 to 7.30 on Golf Channel, then a 1 to 3 finish on CBS. So CBS finished going into the Cadillac championship, picking up at 3 o'clock. So a lot of golf on CBS on Sunday. So they're jumping in. Make golf weekend for CBS. Network TV there. On the DP World Tour, we have the aforementioned Turkish Airlines Open at National Golf Club Antalya. This is 2.75 million. The defending champ, you could not guess if I gave you a million and one guesses. The defending champ of the Turkish Airlines Open is, do you have any guesses? Gunner Stahl. From Mighty Ducks? Who's the gunner that we like? Gunner Weeby. Gunner Weeby. Martin Kuvra, who I believe was just in the in the Zürich with the with the what's the ball? I believe, yeah. So you had New Orleans, French, the French quarter, I should say, to the Turkish Airlines Open Notables in the field. MJ De Fee is a notable. Jesus, he was a notable last week too. Really? Yeah, I don't understand where the notable comes from there. Decidedly not notable. Mateo, the great Mateo Minasero, Tom McKibbin, Dodo Molinari, Frank Molinari, David Pooge, Paul Wehring, not using his PTO. I guess he's not eligible for the SIGs. And then Ashen Wu. This is a what else does the bumblebee need to do to get put into notables? That's a good question. I guess we're certainly talking about them enough here, almost daily. This is six to 10 a.m. Eastern with the 11 a.m. finish on Sunday on Golf Channel. And I read is he just done playing the DP world now that he got his. Yeah, I think like major season, he's going to focus. He doesn't need to be in Turkey right now. Just hit the majors and then go play it in the fall. Go back Wentworth and the other things. So that does it for our schedule for the week. Club Pro Championship is your your event of the week. That'll be Wednesday night finishing. Anything else on this Wednesday episode? We're good. Tight episode. Lot of liver efficient. I don't know if we were. But a lot of a lot of live chatter. That's really the big deal. You want the the chat bot update? Sure. They needed to transfer me to a different chat bot who then said we are currently experiencing a high volume of chats and cannot assist you at this time. Please try your chat again later. What? Everything's just worse. Technology is better and everything's just worse. It's terrible. All right. That does it for this Wednesday episode. Everybody enjoy your your Wednesdays, your hump days. We'll be back with you on Friday. Take a talk, a little Cadillac championship. Maybe some regions, maybe live more news on live. Talk to you then.