Ep 70: Plush Dirty Vegas Review - 1200 Swingers Gone Wild in Sin City

Find us at vanilla swingers.com and you'll find Kat's only fans page there too. You wish. Hey Kat. Yeah Leo. I'm going to record one of those silly disclaimers that you put at the beginning of the podcast. Real advisory sticker. Let's go because this is going to be explicit. Oh yeah we're going to talk about lots of sex. Lots of bad language. We might even have sex on the podcast. We might have. Listening to the noise of our love making. There might be nudity. But you can't see it on the podcast. Doesn't matter. You can hear it. You can hear the nudity. We might corrupt you if you're under the age of 18. That's the disclaimer. Don't listen. We're not professional. What else? And yeah we're not professionals. We know nothing. Absolutely nothing. And if you want to try to sue us? Well we don't have any money either. Because this is bite-size and commercial free. We're not trying to make any money. It's fun. So you like it. And tune in and listen. Yeah. Word. I was driving in the car today and all of a sudden that song Blue Strips comes on. You know the song I'm talking about. And all of a sudden my little six year old starts singing the whole song. You know what I'm talking about. Blue Strips. Big tits in the strip club. Throwin' ones. Strip club. Like I don't think she was singing the censored version of it. I think she just let it out. I just like looked in the rear view and I just cracked a smile. Full on chuckle. Yeah. The Grinch's part grew three sizes that day. That's so adorable. Yeah. We need to make sure we don't play tiktok radio in the car because she's too smart for that. She got to decipher that. So I was thinking today what are your love languages? You know what love languages are right? Uh-uh. I mean sort of but I don't know what they are. Yeah you just said that because you're trying to act like we're doing a big deal. You know what they are right? Come on. It's like Chick Crack. We all know about the love languages. Parrot cards. Astronomies. Fire sign. You're right. That is Chick Crack. Let me see your palm here. Yeah this is your love line. It's going to split with two cocks. It goes right here all the way down there. So Gary Chapman. Dr. Gary Chapman. Are we getting technical here? You know I ain't getting technical. No. We just got a fortune today. Yes we got a fortune cookie. What does it say? This is when we arrived in Vegas. This is what we got. Enjoy life. It's better to be happy than wise. Well that's a good thing because I'm definitely not going to be wise because I ain't smart enough for that. This is code speak for make really foolish poor decisions and have fun with them. And I'm all for it. So the love languages. You got words of affirmation. You got access service. I don't care about that. Receiving gifts. I don't care about that. That's good because I didn't get you anything. Quality time. That's good because I don't got no time for it. I don't want any of your time. Physical touch. I like to be touched. Touch me please. I think we agree on this but they're flip-flop. Yes. Because you are primary and secondary. You got primary is. Words of affirmation. Words of affirmation. Compliment the hell out of me. I love it. In the quickest way. To kitty cat's heart. Down kitty cat's pants. And then the secondary is. Touch. Just a little touch which you know leads right there. All rows lead to physical touch. For hands to mouths to cough. I'm the opposite. You go ahead and you touch me. Yeah. That's the quickest way. You told me for years. Words of affirmation. Sex is my love language honey. Absolutely. Yep. You sex me up. Well I'm a pleaser. I'm a giver. I love love love love love me forever. Yeah. The first night we met we had sex so. That's right. I was just telling you how much I love. You're about it. FDU. We're literally in our casino so hopefully the sound is okay because we're not in a car right now. One of the things that we picked up in our newbie journey that's worth preaching. We're not newbies anymore. Oh okay. Yeah I think. Is this pod going to be out of sequential order is that what you're saying? Yeah we're not newbies anymore. We're actually recording this before we're going to record episode 69. So if you're listening in sequential order then I guess you already know what we're talking about. But even we don't know what we're talking about because we haven't recorded it yet. Hopefully it turned out well. Tell us how it went. But you know as we go along in our newbie journey. One of the pro tips that we give you is that after a while you find out that the lifestyle is not as big as you think. Oh it's not just small world. Yeah and the only way to break out of that fishbowl. Right. Is to travel. Yeah you got to travel. Because you let's say you get on the apps. Let's say you go to your local club. You're going to see the same people. Oh it's you again. Oh it's you again. And you might run out of runway. Yeah I think one of the best things we've ever done is it's almost like we spin the globe month to month and we say what do you want to do now which is why we're going to go to Lake Havasu and we're going to do some redneck shit right. I mean we're totally just going to say yes you know YOLO. Yeah okay. We're so excited. Am I going to get like a farmer's tan you know like I'm wearing a pair of. You don't ever wear shirts. Overalls or something. Yeah I don't ever wear shirts. Okay I'm going to be a lobster. Yes. Lake Havasu sounds fun. It does. This is something we haven't quite totally figured out but apparently the host hotel for the plush party has been sold out. There's like apparently a thousand guests coming. So we got a super secretive invite to stay at somebody's party house. Yeah so like obviously your top choice should be on paper. The host hotel. Because then you can have a room and you can host people. You go to the theme party. But then this sounds like a close second because it gives it a run for your money. We're going to be our own clique. We're going to walk in to a house. They own a boat so we're on their boat now. They own a party bus. And we are such party people. Yeah we are party people in a house. We were just saying today we're walking through the casino on our way to our room. We used to go to Vegas for about two years you know every few months just as a couple. Sexy fun. Completely pre-lifestyle but just. Just sex holiday. Yeah it was kind of how we got interested in the lifestyle. It was our precursor. We had a party in our pants. And I think at some point during our trip we usually end up in some kind of altered state. It just seemed magical and appropriate. We started out with our rave room then. Fast forward. Okay. We've been in the lifestyle really it's been about two years now. Yeah we don't do that as much anymore and the thing that we're going to say is. The reason why we don't need it is because. The lifestyle is better. Because we're nymphomaniacs. It's actually better than alcohol, drugs except the good ones. I think it's better. It is better. We really don't want to do those things because playing is so much more fun and that's the dragon we're chasing now. So if you play with people and you do the good drugs that's the go. We don't even do that. Well we might have been in a mind altered state with the naughty nanny. We're going to get to that. Oh my jumping ahead. Yes we're talking about plush later but we're not going to get to that yet. Okay. It's foreshadow. Yes. What are we saying? So just ahead of our Vegas trip we saw pusher, pusher galore. Pusher, pusher galore. It's kind of getting serious now. It is. It's a total threple vibe. She's a Bay Area. Well she's been fucking past. She's getting better every time we meet her. Oh my gosh. We're having so much fun. What is it? Like a flower that sort of opens or gets an onion? I don't know. It's like a blue line. Layers of onions. Outback steakhouse. There's so many layers and it just sort of you keep discovering new things. We met her in January, played. She's the one that got away and then we reconnected. I don't think until June. And now we've seen her like every two weeks, three weeks. It's getting really serious. We have an amazing time together. She even asked to spend the night at our hotel last time. That was our second sleepover with her. Yeah, we were doing some spooning. You like to be in the middle. I like to be on the end personally because I need my space. So I'm loving it. You actually said ahead of us staying in the hotel, you said, you know, if there's two beds, I'm not going to have space and you can go over there. You can cuddle with her. I looked to my left. I looked to my right. I'm like, it's a trap. It's a trap. I'm playing for the long game. When I get my turn, you can sleep on the other bed. It's a trap. It's a trap. Get out now. Little cat has not had a sleepover yet. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to get me one. I am patient. I mean, I suppose if that went down, I suppose turn about as fair play. But Pussy Galore has said that she would come out with us when we go hang out with Nathan Gray down at the Castro and she's going to come out and party with us. You know how crazy she drove us from the first time we met her? We left that encounter thinking, she's great. Like this is going to be fantastic. It's going to be like a local Bay Area thing and maddening. Nothing. Nothing to have come so full circle. Let's touch on one other thing. During that first experience, she said that she had this fella and he was French and she liked to call him her lover. And so after the encounter, we were going to playfully text her something like, well now you're my lover. Something, something lover. Because we thought it to ourselves instead of calling each other play partners. That sounded hot. Lover. Couldn't we call our play partners our lovers? That's kind of sexy. And before we hit the send button, she sends something back to us like, yeah, well, I only reserved the word lover for like the one person. And I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, hold it. Okay. That's it. We did not send it. Yeah. Today. She's definitely our lover. I think we've said as much. So yeah, lover. So yeah, that was amazing. And we're going to talk about plush party because we've now been to two. We went to dirty Vegas in June and we went to their SoCal plush party in August and our two trips could not have been a tale of two different cities. I'm still thinking of a push it. Okay. Oh, and then when we played with her, we almost turned our threesome into a force. Oh, yes, we did. Someone I'd like to have a repeat with. Shy guy. We have not talked about him because he's in the dirty Vegas one, but he came right after Surfer Boy. Cute Shy guy. And I liked him a lot. Yeah, you did. And I might have him on the calendar. It didn't work out. We might make a little bit of a longer session for that one because the first time he was about to catch a plane. So it was about an hour and a half and then had to dart out of there. I'd like it to be a lot longer. Oh, okay. But yeah, she was down for. That's one of those organically unfolding things. We thought there's no way she's going to be down for this. And we thought I'm just going to throw it out, you know, we've been trying to. Kind of tiptoed around it. It's just a little crazy. Last minute I know. Feel free to say no, no big deal. We got like halfway through the text and she said, let's do it. So yeah, she's fine. She's fine. We like her. So where are we going with this? We're talking about the tale of our two different plush reviews and experiences. Okay. And it was a tale of two different cities for us because one, we had four threesomes in three days and one, we went total over. Yeah, you sound like Scooby-Doo. Betty or Wilma. Who are you picking? Everybody like Betty. Betty or Veronica. Oh, that's a lot harder. Is that Betty? Because she's blonde and I'm blonde. Okay. I got to like Betty. You better say Betty. I'm going with Betty and Veronica. Yeah, you're waiting for us to be in the bedroom with a well, pushing the door in here. Oh my God, I forgot to tell you the hottest part of the experience for me. Oh, okay. Was I like not privy to it? What was I doing? I had this guy in my phone on Telegram and I had texted him or he had popped up and I said, I'm about to have an MFF threesome. Would you like to ride along? That's right. He stuck with me as a couple, right? He has his wife there for an hour and a half sexting me and I'm sitting here giving him a play by play. She's currently going down on me. This and that. It was so hot in Tadri. You know, if this is episode 70, even though we haven't technically recorded 69, I think we can kind of talk about some things. Okay. So I might have said she's going down on me while he's doggie with her and it was like really hot because then he would say, I wish it was my mouth on you instead of her mouth. And it was so Tadri, but respectful. And I would gladly have him as my sexting buddy again. Yeah, absolutely. We said that before where you've got guys sliding into your DMs in the middle of MFF. I wouldn't want him in the middle of an MFF. Yeah, because it adds a carnal energy. I have as much fun as possible in the MFFs, 100 percent, especially the more bi they are or the more bi curious and they want to explore with me. But naturally it's more balanced. Right. There's only one cock to go around, right? Whereas I get two cocks and that's lovely. But when they come in by text like, oh, I want you. I guess that's why people do couple swaps because then they're both in the same NRE at the same time. Right. We're just not there yet because we like the idea of being involved. In fact, when we talked about bringing shy guy in, we had to think about, you know, the shy guy's going to be on me exclusively. And you're not there as a control freak. I'd be on pusher. Yeah. But you're already on pusher. Pusher, good Lord. You're already on her. It was more about how well are you for shy guy to be on me? I was willing to go for it as long as we were all in the same bit. I was willing to go for it if you were willing to go for it. Oh, were you? So now you're putting all your cards on the table, I said. Of course I was willing to go for it. It would have been, you know, You've got to know when to hold them. I'm going to hold them. Know when to walk away. I ain't walking away. Know when to run. You might want to run. But that's the whole thing about the couple thing that we're still not totally there, even just having a threesome turn for some. How much pussy you think Kenny Rogers got? A lot. That was a good looking man. And I bet he had a lot of mills. What do you think? A lot of cougars. Some country cute cougars. He was a cool mother fucker. He kind of like embodied that old west, wild west gunslinger. Gunslinger, yeah. Gambler. Him and Dolly Parton. Yeah. She was like the original Westie blonde. You take her now. What about now? She's a gilf. There are such things as gilfs. I'm not sure how to feel about that. I'm not sure about that either. I think more power to you if you are a gilf because we all should be having sex. I kind of like my girls where we can have a sleepover and by morning I don't roll over and the different person in bed, you know. It's a lot of people. That's because you're used to me. I don't. I literally wear some eyelashes. Yeah, you're all natural. And a little bit of eyeliner and that's it. So I look the same. You have a very conventionally beautiful face without a stitch of makeup. Stop it. Oh my God. Me on the other hand, I got to wear the bag. I got to be in good lighting. Get a paper bag. That's right. But you got a really hot body. And I took a ton of videos of you and Pusha. Pusha Gullar. She took some hot videos of us. She took some of us. Which we don't really have a lot of videos of ourselves. You have an explosive orgasm where you look like you should have been holding onto parahandable for dear life. It was the culmination of the MFF was ending and ebbing. It was near the tail end. I had been sexting for an hour and a half. Oh, so hot. I'm gonna stick him in the trunk of the car after this. But you were all for it on our drive home, right? We stayed up in the city on a drive home the next day after the sleepover. I read Leo all of it and he had sent me some sexy videos. I didn't see anything that I had a problem with. You know, they were in total coital bliss, not live, which would have been hotter. And he was sending me videos of them. So it was like a great texting. You could almost have a guy come in and watch. I would love that. You would love that. I would. You know, there's actually people out there. We come across them on the apps that they'll sit and come and watch. Just like we've said with MFMs, they'll go as soft as you want them to go. We said somebody in Denver actually wanted to do that one time. But we actually next to that, he said, just open the door. I'll just come in quietly. I'll wank it and then I'll leave. And we were like, that's just not the play. If no viewpoint is going to go for that. They would if they liked us and we said we vetted them. But it's true. Yeah, that's true. I like that carnal energy. That's why I like hot wives. I love the idea of us playing MFF with a hot wife and have their husband watching. It's a carnal energy. He's not just watching his wife at that point. He's also watching me and I would get off on that. Okay. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. We're going to go back to dirty Vegas. The weekend we had four threesomes in three days. What was that? You must have had three of those. I did. Kat had three MFMs in one weekend. Are you so excited for me? This was pre-69. Okay. Pre-episode 69. So it was pretty light stuff. Okay. Fast forward. First thing, we got this guy Frenchy. He's French. Socre bleu. Presumably. He's like a professional gambler and he's in town Vegas for a tournament. But he's really kinky. He's got all of this kinky shit. He basically wanted to come in and he's like, I'm not going to fuck you. I'm like, well, that's good. I'm not going to let you fuck me. And he said, I really want to clean you up. This was pre-episode 69. After cream pie. Yes. I don't know. I just don't know how I feel about that. We've done it with girls and that's lovely. I love it with the girls. But we were going to go for it because then he suggested the next fantasy. I feel like my swimmers are like looking at me from across the room like. You going to let this happen? Turn in your man card. You going to let this happen right here? But he had suggested another fantasy, which we were already thinking of. We had the both had the idea that we would just slip him a key card and he would just show up at a room. Unannounced. Within like, you know, a couple hour. Around midnight, which are. We had been gun shy from that time we went oof. Staple to make me dreamy. I believe you have my stapler. Yeah. He was terrible. He was so terrible. We came across him on the apps by accident last week. He was so surprised and I looked at him and I thought he's a pretty good looking guy and I showed you and I said, is this stapler Mcdream? And I said, yes. And I felt so much better because I didn't remember what he looked like. He had disconnected from our chat afterwards. His profile gave no red flags. You guys would look at him and say, he's cute. So I feel better about it. We didn't do much, but I still feel better about the settling. You know, it's probably good to interject here and the number one pro tip to take away from here is that no matter how many pictures you have, you've got to ask for at least one or two more candid selfish. Because he had changed his appearance. He had, well, I think he'd put on a little bit of weight, but mostly he had a really scruffy beard that changed his look. And what he said was, I look a little different than my pictures. And that's pro tip number two. If they say that, Maya Angelou says, when people show you who they are, believe them. We should have heard that as a red light. And we just totally went right over that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to see more photos. Come on over at one in the morning. Yeah, we were in rutting mode right then. It was a rutting season. Fortunately, it was pre-69 episode. Yeah. I remember he even said at the end, look, you don't fuck other guys. And I'm like, no. He said it like a guy that would have been putting money on the nightstand. He had the most cringe worthy personality, no game whatsoever. But we felt so much better after seeing the photo of him. I don't feel nearly as bad. Yeah, because afterwards I think we had feelings of questioning our judgment. How did we let him hit? How could we let that one through our safety net? Because we had forgotten what his profile looked like. All we knew was what was standing before us. He had a lot of good, well-framed photos of his face just looking right at the camera. And so we almost didn't feel like the need to ask for more. And he was there, Johnny on the spot at 1 a.m. Yes. It should have been hot. But that leaves another thing is we came across somebody. You were waiting in the dumpster fire pool of Reddit or for R. It's such a dumpster fire. I don't follow that. But you sometime you're out there like giving advice and things like that. I might ask for a few guys to send me some photos of me as R for R. Like did you? Hope Springs Eternal. I'll let you know what they look like. Okay, so I'm not going to comment any further there. But you had this one couple and he was posting that they just had an M.F.M. With this fantastic guy. Next thing you know, you get to talk and they send you pictures of him. They send me photos. And he's got a model good look. Like I was so jealous. The envy. Because then not only did they have this amazing experience with him, they had a repeat planned. They did all these things with him. He was texting constantly. Pro tip number 64. I was so jealous. Comparison is the thief of all joy. I actually would sit in fantasies about this photo because he was like the best looking guy, better than Drago, better than our Rootski. But that wasn't it. He also had a horse cock. And so they talked about it on and on. He was actually in some subreddit and he was posting pictures of the guy's cock. We said that's really cringe. Which is why you got to be careful sending photos that don't self-destruct, especially the single guys. You just don't know. So you were saying to them, why don't you give me his profile. Because they were going to be in the East Coast where we go sometimes and I thought, I want to see this guy. I really want to see him. Oh my gosh. Kat was like just daydreaming about this guy for days on end. Oh, he was like 24. He was a grad student. And they were going to have a repeat with him. And then he apparently took his profile offline because he was just going to go exclusive with them. Because he was supposed to be on field. Which made Kat even more envious. Yes, I was like, oh right. She's like sharing his caring. At the last ditch effort, I told you, why don't you go ahead and do a reverse image search of his face. Because if he's a grad student, maybe he's got his face out there. And I thought, what for? So I can like find his photo and then text him, hey. Low in the hold. Some couple told me about you. He was fake. Oh my God. His AI generated. He's seen all these photos and it's like random hot dude. And then I got swiped like two weeks after that on field. Somebody swiped and hearted us with his photo. That's right. Saying that he was like half Dutch and half American. Like a totally different random thing. And in his profile picture, he had this funny picture where he was wearing boxer shorts and he was hard. And it like went all the way down his leg. And I was telling you, it looks like Photoshop. It's like, thick. Unrealistic. Yeah, it looked like, I don't know, one of them. Like a baseball bat. Like a wiffle ball bat. So don't believe anything you read on Reddit. It was a catfish. Only believe half of what you see. But the catfish really was there to drive home the point of stop looking over other people's shoulders and seeing what experiences that they're having that seem like the grass is always greener. Because you know, the way people retell their experiences, sometimes they make them very glossy. Do we gloss over ours? Well, we're about to tell you how we went over and we're going to be really honest about it. So there is that. We try to give you the- We have highs, we have lows. The opposite. Equal and opposite. But even regardless, your experience is not going to be what everybody else's experience is. You need to be happy with what you find. And same for us. I totally was letting my comparison of, God, my guys are freaking crap as far as being back in touch with me. I was comparing myself to this mythical person. You were like, oh, she's got a 10 out of 10 and she's getting repeats. And so- And I saw photos of them and I'm like, man. It drives home the point that you've got a type. It's artificial intelligence. It is such artificial intelligence. With a horse cock. I don't really care. That was not really- So when are they getting one of them humanoid robots? Would you let a humanoid robot fuck you? Yeah, I would. Okay. Would you? If they're realistic enough, I guess, but I don't want to have to clean them out. I also don't want it to feel like medley. Yeah, you mean like silicone. It has to feel soft and like, well, not soft, hard, but not like metal. I think that's actually a cheat code. Because if we had humanoid handsome guys under the age of 30. Oh, God, I wouldn't have to swipe anymore. You could just peel their face off and put a new one on. That'd be hot. Yeah, you could do different cock sizes. You just kind of screw along. I've got a new business idea for us. Oh, I'm sure somebody's working on it right now. Yeah, bring it on. Because, you know, if you got a type, you got a type, and there's only so many people around. But I don't think that's not going to happen in our lifetime, whether realistic enough to actually pass the sniff test. We got off track. The reason why we talked about Stapler-McDreamy is the Frenchy. We knew that we liked the idea how tawdry it would be to have somebody just show up and announce, but we didn't really want to meet him ahead of time. So we came to a compromise. We're going to meet you for like two minutes, hand you a key card and then leave. And then we thought as a safety net, we're not going to tell him our room number. We're going to text it afterwards. Because when you're in a casino, there's a thousand rooms or something. He has a key card. He can't even get in the elevator unless he knows what floor he's on. So we figured at the very least, you and I could walk away, talk about it for an hour or so, and decide, is this the guy? Because in two minutes, maybe you can't make a judgment. And that night, we actually, he went to go off to play poker after we met him, and we went to play house to go check out the club. Yeah, we liked him well enough. He actually looked like his pictures and he was French. He was handsome enough. And he was dirty. He was really dirty. So we proceeded to get undressed, do our thing at midnight. Yeah, probably like midnight 30. And then... Someone let themselves right into the room. Yeah, we didn't let him in. Oh, God, he came and sat on the edge of the bed, like next to where we were on the chair, and he proceeded to start touching. Come on, that's pretty tall. And he got undressed. He stayed for about an hour. Was it like a stranger? He was really dirty. Mm-hmm. We only let it last about an hour. And then we decided, you know, this isn't really doing it for us. Yeah, it was a little sex dolly. He was trying to kind of sex doll it. And in the end... You did it. I couldn't bring my boys. I couldn't let him go. I just couldn't do it. My boys were looking at me with like that doggie dinner bowl look like, you really gotta do this? Are you really gonna sauce on the room? So he was ready to leave. He wasn't getting what he wanted. We were in the middle of it, and I had decided that I didn't really like the sex dolly nature of it. You didn't like how it started? Amazing. It was devolving. Yeah, he just was focused on one thing. I want the cream pie. That's what I'm here for. Yeah, he's... So I actually texted in the middle of play, somebody that we'd met earlier that evening at Playhouse, and it was actually a guy that we had met earlier that evening at Playhouse. It was a guy that we swiped left on, and then we met him in person at the club, and we actually realized he's actually pretty handsome. He thought he was really handsome, and he had an amazing personality, and he just showed way better than his photos. And I texted him. It was like one in the morning. He was awake. That's of course the code for you want to follow. I didn't know he had done this. Still gonna be pretty light. Pretty light. And so he texted back in five minutes. Where are you at? I think between the time Frenchie left and he arrived, it was probably... 15 minutes. It was so fast. We're like, tell us when you're here. He must have been at the casino next to us. I went out, went in the elevator, and I went down, and the elevator doors opened, and he walked in. We went right back up without missing a beat. We just went right back to what we were doing. It took two... Four hands, two mouths, and two cocks. Guys to equal one good MFM. And it was amazing because this guy wanted to do some... Total different MFM. ...you know, cherrymandering. Because Frenchie just wanted to use his mouth and hands. Yeah. And this guy definitely wanted his dick out. And he would have lasted longer, but we got the security. Oh, man, we were on a roll. We were on a roll. That was the third time. The first time was it was Pushery when we tried to hide her under the bed. No, no, no, no. She must have been horrified. But she still wanted to see us again. Yeah, that's true. In San Francisco, they actually told us, you all have to leave. You go now! They thought we had brought a third person into our room. It was like a really agro innkeeper. Of course, there's only two of us in the room innkeeper. It's my husband and I having sex. And I went down there like the Hulk, and I just lifted the bed off the ground, and I said, there's a cavity under there. I would have gone under the bed. Yeah, so she's still stuck under there today. And then the second one was this one with our whole post-Frenchy episode, the knock on the door. The third one. But in Vegas, they're a lot cooler. The third one was with Vlad the Impaler, and he was chill. That's true. We got knocked on twice with him, and he continued the whole time. That's right. And you know who else would have been cool? Rage and Cajun. Yeah, he would have stuck around, too. We're going to see you again, Rage and Cajun. You would have put him in a naked chokehold. We're going to see you at Naughty, so mark my words. Yeah, we are going to make that happen. So we're finishing up with... Is that our third one? MFM number two, which was like two for one. Who's our third? The next night, we went to Plush. Plush Party. We didn't say at the hotel takeover, because we booked way too late in the game. The first thing is, right off the top, is, you know, we've had this debate for a while now where we've said, I don't think you could possibly be in the lifestyle if you're a celebrity, because somebody's going to blow you out. Everybody's got a camera. Somebody's going to take a selfie, and then I say, you know, it's out there. Anybody, people don't really take pictures. It's just people... There's going to be scuttle, but people are going to talk about it. Turns out, you can. Yeah, we met a celebrity that night, but we can't tell you who they are. But I got to kiss them. So he was a big deal in the 80s. Euler? Got paid to fool. He was a... What would you call him? Child actor? He was a really big deal, and there's so many movies. Probably one of the biggest. In the 80s, the 90s, maybe even the 2000s. So we're talking about Bacolicoak in here, right? Everybody was pointing them out. Hey, look who's here. Look who's here. Everybody knew, and they said... And they said, listen, the one thing is, don't make a big deal about it. He doesn't like people going up to him and trying to make a deal of it. He just wants to be a swinger, like you guys. Of course, five minutes later, a cat goes right up to him and says... A restraining order is just a piece of paper. I know who you are. I'm such a big fan. He's just chilling. He's got his shades on. He's got his entourage. And I gave him a hug and a kiss. He's starting to try and make out with him. And for a split second, like you said, this actor... Yeah, behind his glasses, he's looking and probably thinking, she's pretty. I'm going to let her talk. He might have thought I want to fuck her. Just for a split second. Well, you were kind of towering over him a little bit. I was. It was a rave theme, right? You had your heels on. I had not heels. I have platform boots. You were probably thinking, I hope she doesn't manhandle that. Like they're like my EDC outfit and they're like probably five inches or something. I was quite tall and I had like a 2-2 on. So my legs looked extra long because my 2-2 just covered my butt. You're going to sleep with a D-list actor? Is that it? Is that in the car? I might because now it's post-69. That was pre-69. Pre-69. Is that what we're going to call it? Yeah, post-69 and pre-69. But we're still going really slow now that we're post-69. A-69, B-69. And you're like, Korean post-10. Listen. Listen. Listen. We probably already covered this on 69 even though we haven't actually recorded it yet. But in 69, we will talk about how when it comes to unicorns, the first rule of unicorns is that there are no rules for unicorns. Yeah, that's the rule of the Fight Club. We saw Lana twice. And by the third time. Fourth. It was a fourth time. We waited four times before we went there. Yeah, I believe. A-69. Yeah, yeah. I'm shocked. We'll go back to that on number 69. Okay. But yeah, there's just no other way. We're going to go back to the plush party because you guys might want to know about Dirty Vegas. I feel like it gets a lot of press. Yeah. What else would we do besides you making out with, I'm just going to keep talking while you're sitting there texting away. And that was somebody who's telling us that Oh, sorry. You can't go into the microphone that they're saying that they've got their monthly visitor right now. And I got to tell you, if you haven't heard of the sponge trick, It's called the makeup sponge trick. Makeup sponge trick. You got to look it up. Have to get a very clean makeup sponge that you haven't used and cut it in half. And you stick it up your crotch. That's right. Cut it in half and then just, sometimes you can put lube on there if you want to and then tuck it up in there. And it soaks up, especially if you're just lighter spotting. And unlike the diva cup, which is all plasticky, if your guy has a finger in there or he's got his cock inside of you, it feels soft and spongy. Yeah, the diva cup, if you touch it, it's like crinkly, like one of those plastic bags. It's not very sexy. But with the makeup sponge trick and the last time you tried to dispense that advice, you had a lot of pearl clutches going. Yeah, unsafe medical advice. This is unsanitary. I then proceeded to do it myself. And it worked fantastic. We're talking about sexy fun. And if it's sexy fun on last minute notice, don't let your period stop you. Go ahead and try that makeup sponge trick because it is an absolute next level cheat code. I'm not condoning it medically. It could be unsafe for you. It could give you toxic shock syndrome. I don't know. But I personally do it because you're going to have it in for like an hour. And then as soon as the play partner leaves, I'm a doctor and I'm here to tell you that there's no danger of you ain't no doctor. Doctor Dome. You said the same thing. Actually, I said, Dr. Love, you may have misheard me, selective hearing. But yeah, instead of her saying that, she should just be saying, makeup sponge trick. Uh-oh. You just told her to make a sponge trick. I did. She said, oh my God, I've never heard of that. You could still mess around with that. Oh, okay. Let's see if you can, here, you keep texting. See if you can do it. See if you can actually turn her while we're on the pot. Okay. Convert her. Let's see. Let's get Leah some lucky charms. We did that recently. I already did that. Push it. Push it. Push it. Push it. Push it. Oh, that's right. Oh, and then we tried to have someone else do it, which we're about to talk about. And she said no, she didn't feel comfortable. Yeah, because I don't mind that at all because if you're not comfortable with it, that's a different story. But we've said it before that in my opinion, sex is messy and I'm here for it. Especially when you're talking about married couples. We're all used to periods. You're not talking about a single guy who's like, I don't really know what that monthly flow thing is. We're talking about husbands. Keep it going. Come on. I hear it over there. Kat's gonna actually try to make something happen while we're in the middle of a pot. I think that's cool. Well, you're the whisperer. So you're like the wing girl from Heaven. How come that's not one of the themes on one of the theme nights? You know, like Cupid's Arrow and all that stuff. We could dress up like cherubs and angels and stuff. Did you know, speaking of cherubs, that the circus has been bought by Disney and they are gonna have a Disney themed casino probably with daycare. First of all, okay. Game changer. Now, two things. One, every time we come to Vegas, we look around and we see people pushing strollers and we think to ourselves, why'd you bring your kid to Vegas? We never have brought our kids to Vegas. But two. We understand. That hotel is going to kill, okay? Continue. And the reason is because- Did you hear that? We think it should be a law that no one else can have the same ding noise because we hear that and we're like Pavlov's dog. Yeah, we start salivating. We are salivating right now. So you do your thing and I'll just carry it from here. Disney, apparently they've already demolished it. That experience is gonna be amazing because how many parents with small children are gonna bring their kids, dump them off in daycare and then go do Vegas. And I'm not even that big a fan of Disney. Although, you know, I gotta give them that. It's magical. The magic kingdom, right? How do you feel about somebody doing dress up where they come in dressed up as like one of the mascots? Like Minnie and Mickey? Goofy? Where do you draw the line? You draw the line at the Goofy costume? Yes. Pluto. Is that like Beastiality? Is that weird? I'll take- How about Beast? Would you take Daisy Duck? Think about that for a second. That beauty and the beast, she was willing to go all the way with him before she ever knew that he could turn back into a human. Yeah. Well, he was such a kind- Is that kind of sus? No. Personality goes a long way for people. Okay. So even if he's half animal- It's really the reason why on the app, I would swipe no on people that 100% I'd probably play within the club. I'm gonna make a profile on field where I'm wearing some kind of beast costume. Let's see if I can get some swipes. Okay. Am I gonna like tap into some visceral, carnal, core level kink? I hope that we could do it on FetLife. Can we just say for a minute that FetLife- It's a dumpster fire beyond all dumpster fires. What is that scene in Star Wars? Were there in like the garbage compactor? I got a bad feeling about this. That's what it feels like. It feels like we're trying to wade through the garbage compactor. I don't really, I've never seen Star Wars. I mean, I've seen it. I don't remember it. You've never seen Star Wars. I mean, I've seen it, but don't please don't make me. Don't make you- I don't wanna see it. Give me a wrong call. Give me X-Men. I'm gonna make you do the little buns on the side of the head. I'm cool with Avengers. Little sticky buns. Well, I would look cute like that. Can we get back to the Plush Party? I don't even know what you're talking about. We're going back to dirty Vegas. I wanna tell about the party. Okay. We did not stay at the hotel takeover, but Plush Parties throws a mean party. There were like 1200 people and the DJ was bumping and everybody was costume. They put on a good show. There's no question about it. The one thing I will say, I'll just skip ahead. Yeah, cause nobody really wants to hear review. What do they call that? T-D-L-R? What is that even saying? T-L-D-R, too long, don't read. Okay, too long, shut the hell up. That's a Reddit thing. Yeah, I'm not really- You're not a Redditor. I'm the one on Reddit. I know. The T-L-D-R is basically, they put on a hell of a show. A great party if you're a party people, a dance people. But I wonder how- Much play. Much play you're gonna find there. A lot of dirty vanilla's. It's very true. It's a lot of look at me, look at me kind of people. There's a lot of people that show up to this thing and I've gotta believe- Clicky. A lot of height weight proportional. I think they like to self-identify. You don't have to be vetted for a plus, do you? No. Okay. But it feels like you are. But no, you don't have to. It's almost self-selecting. I think a lot of people they come, they feel that way. It's Southern California based. Most of their parties are in Southern California. They also do the Lake Havasu, which is driving distance from Southern California and they do dirty Vegas. If you see the guest list on Cassidy, for instance, I'd say 75% of the people are from California. So it doesn't draw from all over like Naudia, New Orleans does. So you say it doesn't vet, which I think leads to the next point, which is yes, it's self-selecting. In a way, there is a subgroup that runs in these plus parties that self-select and they do vet. They vet within their own little self-selecting group. Okay, so- They're the insufferable bunch. Yeah, buckle up, because I'm gonna offend some people here. Yeah, you are. And they're not our type of people and they're gonna be, if you're our listener, they're not gonna be your type of people either. You know how we feel about vetting. We don't even like the idea of vetting the first place. The first time or two or three we went to Vegas during the lifestyle, we didn't wanna go to play house simply because they vetted. We were actually vehemently opposed to going because of that. Because we feel like there should be a place for everyone in the lifestyle, because I think that's one of the beautiful things about- Doesn't matter your shape, your size, your age, your color, you may not wanna play with all of those people, but they have every right to be having sex and feeling sexy as you do. Yes. Everybody. And I think universally it feels like people in the lifestyle are very welcoming. He's very welcoming. And the same idea. But every now and again, there's one of those businesses that come along. It's trying to create the beautiful club. Like there's Illuminati. The beautiful people. There's all these ones that are vetted. Kinky Rabbit Club in LA. It's like $1,000 for one of their parties and you have to be vetted with references. It's for the beautiful people. But we've also heard that they don't really stick around for that long. And the main reason is because- Because we're all normal people. We're all normal people. You know, we're not just all beautiful people. My mom and dad's and we're not 22 year old models. We're all beautiful in our own way. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And as far as I'm concerned, you can be beautiful on the outside, but you can also be ugly on the inside. But that is something that does run through the plush parties. And I think it's because it's SoCal based. So these people, you'll see them on Cassidy. They all validate each other. It's like a pretty people circle jerk. But one of the things they do is they're very clicky. We'll call them like the cool kids table. Right? And so what they do is they'll actually say at those parties that we will find people that we think are hot and then we'll invite them to some of those after parties. It's a private party. And so ahead of Dirty Vegas plush, we reached out to a bunch of couples that were headed to Dirty Vegas. And I do remember a few of these wrote back to us, well, we personally hang with about 20 people because we asked how play would work. And we go ahead and invite the ones we want back to our hotel for an after party. And it sounded very cool kids. We touched on this in the past that there's a lot of ego in the lifestyle. And there's something called a social comparison theory. We're basically, like I said before, where you're like playing street ball against middle schoolers. And you're like, you're like, you're like, oh, maybe you. You're like, oh, maybe you. And, of course, that is really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, I'm gonna wax my eyebrows. They'll be all gray hair too, gray fumes. We just gotta go at it together. I think that we can all stand to be a little more humble. I agree. The saying is, be nice to people you see on your way up because you'll be seeing those people again on your way down. Didn't we see that in a movie recently and he said it doesn't matter because I'm going up and I'm not heading back down. It was a really funny movie, whatever it was. I like this one better. Be careful whose toes you step on today because tomorrow they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss. I love it. And don't get me wrong, I think confidence is sexy but I think the arrogance is kind of ugly and I've sat at the cool kids table. I've sat at the table with the misfits before and I'm gonna tell you that if I have to choose, I am sitting with the misfits every damn time. I've dated cheerleaders, I've dated nerdy girls. I mean, listen to him. If I had to choose, I'm choosing the nerdy girls seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Ah, I know you are. I like the nerdy girls. I know you do. You said she was a nerdy girl recently. I don't remember. That's a problem. Oh, push it, push it. She said she was a nerdy girl. So did Monkey Girl. Oh. Just like the misfits, nerdy girls are real. They're genuine and they're beautiful on the inside and the outside. And you know what else? They often have that vulnerability about them and you know how I feel about vulnerability. Yeah, I guess you are a little nerdy girl at heart. I don't ever think of you as a nerdy girl. I know. You are, I'm ready. I know, right? I'm a nerdy girl. I must have a little streak there. Yeah, I was pretty smart back in the day. You know I find the vulnerability very... You're still, he's laughing. He just realized, you're like a nerdy girl. Because I'm like a girl that doesn't know how gorgeous she is and that describes you, that describes push her and that describes Monkey Girl. Curious George. Yes it does. Can we get back to Dirty Vegas now? Okay. We're trying to tell you whether you should go to Dirty Vegas or not. I would say, yeah, I think it was a lot of fun, so much fun that we then decided to go to the plush party in SoCal. Don't go with any expectations though. And probably by that, I mean expectations of the sexy fun. Because you will have a good time if you go there for a good party. If you like partying, if you're kind of the quiet sort, you might not have as much fun. It is a party. I think if you're a little bit introverted, you have to be careful because yes, there is an element of clicks. You're going to find the middle school dance there. That is where we met Naughty Nanny. She was on the upstairs dance floor dancing her heart out and we then realized, hey, it's a unicorn. Let's chat with her. In the meadow. In the meadow. Yeah, just dancing away. Yeah, she was, she looked fun. And her body sock. She looked, she wasn't a body sock. We had to bring her to the hotel lobby. We had to smuggle her in and out of the Luxor Hotel in a body sock. What the hell, everything. I think I took my shirt off and she put it on. And on the way back, I gave her my clothes. I gave her a tank top and some leggings to wear home. That was an odyssey. It was such an odyssey. That is the Naughty Nanny. She is our extra unicorn. I mean, if you describe Plush, you go in there, they had a huge ballroom. It was almost like the foyer of the hotel. They took over the entire Ahern Hotel with like, I don't know, 1200 people. You ever been in one of those hotels where you go in and you can actually look in the center atrium and it actually, you can see all the way up the floor. And you can see. Like an open floor plan, right? It sort of feels like that. It's kind of that enormous entryway. And I would say it was a nice location. The people that stayed there said they didn't have very many accoutrements, like as far as, you know, food choices, cause it's not on the strip. What are you eating at a place like this anyway? Like we. Looking for the Swinger Buffet? Yeah, well, some people are staying there. I mean, we go to Popeyes cause it's walking distance. Go to the Popeyes, you'll probably see Cat and Lea. I think we're the Swinger Buffet of podcasts. A little smorgasbordom. Take that for what you will. Some meatballs. It's only good when you got nothing else after two AM. Them's the truth. But in there, they got a dance floor. I think they had a couple of go-go cages. I got in a go-go cage with my Vegas friend. Dress up Vegas couple that we're gonna see tomorrow night. I call them in my phone, Vegas. You might call them undress up Vegas couple tomorrow. They are amazing people. So they're fans that we have been friends with in my phone since I think December. They actually got our limo driver based on our recommendation, sent us some hot photos in. Back at Daniel's limo. It did. Yeah. Listen, if you're going to Vegas and you want sexy fun in a limo, just go ahead and shout out. It's Captain Limo. I got no affiliate with it. It's just that that's where Daniel Guzman works and he is a boss. You just tell him, Kat and Leo sent you. Absolutely. And he'll know to put the privacy guard up. But keep it on the low key because, you know, you don't want to get him in trouble or nothing like that. But as far as I'm concerned, throw him a 50, the star, he's got to eat and then throw him a 50 on the way out. So a hundred bucks. Because you're expecting to have a bunch of sex in the back seat, maybe with multiple people and he is not going to say nothing. You can open the windows. He has exactly the right energy. Like Kat does and start going. Splashing her tits out. Yeah, there's no bees here and there. Yeah, you know, he's not going to say anything. He might even stop at the store and get you liquor. He has exactly the kind of energy you want in the back of the limo. He's an absolute G. So make sure you take good care of him. And when you see him, tell him Kat and Leo sent you. I already said that. Were you not listening? I don't listen to a word you said. I mean, I've got to smack him, right? And the reason I say that. Give me a man of court. He'll listen to me. We don't, we don't, we don't, we don't try to take a piece of his money or anything. We don't make a dime from that. He's just really cool. And we previously had a different limo driver who we thought was cool until we realized, he like made comments about the stuff I was yelling in the back seat and it was just a little creepy. Yeah, but. Cringy. Yeah. So he's a, if you tell him Kat and Leo sent you, what it will do is it'll kind of pay it forward because after a while that keeps recurring. And after a while he starts saying, Oh, Kat and Leo sent you, Kat and Leo sent you, Kat and Leo sent you. So for the next person that comes along, he's going to realize you guys are coming out of the woodwork and you're actually accounting for a decent part of my business that I need to take care of you. He'll treat you nicer. Sometimes he'll bring you a bottle of champagne to start or he'll stop off at the liquor store. If you need more liquid courage. And then we'll run into him again. And he'll be chill with us. Hey, how you guys treating everybody popping up in your limo. Right. All the sex freaks. So it's important. You got to throw that in there. So Vegas couple, we met them for the first time after being friends with them for months and months and months at Dirty Vegas. And it was amazing. She made candy bracelets because it's rave theme that had. It was like with every saying that we've ever said on the podcast. Like moist cladle and MFF plus MFM. Amazing people, but we didn't get to spend enough time with them. No. Because we met Naughty Nanny and we got distracted. Yeah. Well, there were a lot of people there that we knew. And so we just were kind of flitting around. We had run into a ton of people and we're very social. So we're going to hang with them tomorrow night. Okay. More. Let's talk about Naughty Nanny. One on one. She's cute as hell. Second of all, she's wild as fuck. She is one of the most wild unicorns we have had the pleasure of playing with. Yes. And I think we did. We end up in some ultra states the first time we met her was at the second time. Both times. Perfect. That perfectly describes Naughty Nanny. We don't even do that very often. It just seemed conducive with her. It just seemed like, well, that's natural fit. That's right. And so she's fun. She's actually perfect for Vegas. She's like the epitome of Vegas unicorn. Yes. Absolutely. The kind where you can't put a saddle on it. She roams wild. And it's only a matter of time where she throws you. Yeah. The second time we met with her, we've already talked about that one. That was when we met Vlad the Impaler. We had Naughty Nanny come out for one of our nights for a little tryst. And we were roaming through the casino as a trio and she was difficult to rein in. You're like, would you stop talking to those guys over there? I know. I know. They think you're going to get with them. They're not going to get lucky. She has a flirtatious vibe and it kind of draws people in. I think they look at her. She flirts with the bartender. Every one of them, she gets their number. We hung bad just for fun. We did. We hung the bar. We were parents. And we're sitting at the slot machine. She's going to order a drink. And the next thing you know, she's talking to five guys and every one of them has a doggy dinner bowl look on their face. Pat and Leo are the most mature in the room. You know something's wrong. We've got a serious problem. We're looking at each other like, really? I think after we let it go on for about 10 minutes and then we went over there. I had to rain her in. I had to say, she's with us. Okay. Time to go. Fun's over, boys. She's fantastic. Naughty Nanny, we love you. Can't wait to see you again. That was plush party in a nutshell. Dirty Vegas definitely would do it again, but I wouldn't necessarily. It's not as good as Naughty. Not as good as Bliss. It's not even one-tenth as good as Naughty. In fact, we can't actually go to Dirty Vegas next year. Go to Naughty in New Orleans. Because Dirty Vegas overlaps with one of our children's birthdays. So we actually can't go next year. You're shouting out one of our kids' birthdays on the pause. I think you narrowed that down significantly. That is okay. But night three was when we met Shy Guy. Oh, he came into our phone while we were having fun with Naughty Nanny. It was one of those times that during the MFL. He wrote it two in the morning. Right, we've been texting for like three days and two in the morning he popped up and he said, hey, how was the club tonight? And that's a code speak for what? You won a vote. Yeah. Although that was pre-69. Pre-69, but he doesn't know what our dynamic is. It wasn't entirely pre-69. Yeah, it wasn't. It was actually the inklings of the very first beginnings. It was the first, yeah. Where I said that in order to set up something that involves all three of us at the same time. We gerrymandered that for a time, okay? Because it is very different. Sometimes the guys struggle. And so I was going to tell you to go ahead and help him out for maybe about a minute to get him started before I come in. Like, here comes the husband. And I do remember with him, I even told him, I said, I have never done this with anyone before. And I said, you must be really special. That's right, that's right. And apparently we're gonna see him again. So maybe he is really special. We'll see him. And he's willing to come out and well, okay. Now we told him that our dynamic might have changed just a little bit. So that maybe has drawn him out even more. Yeah, I think you, you know, we've said that. It's interesting that all this time, what, how long has it been for me? A year. A year? Yeah. I've been doing that for a year? Yeah. Okay, so. Okay, 11 months. 11 months. 11 months. And it took me, how long to get to that point? 14 months, did you say? Yes. Okay. And it took me two years. Two years. And people out there listening would be like, Leo, you are slut. One penis policy is what was going on. You a ho. You ain't no good pimp. You a ho. He's a mad whore. I resemble that comment. But anyway, so his name is Shy Guy. I never talked about him before because I was in the moment since surfer boy fizzled out cause he got a girlfriend. I never got a repeat. And I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to talk about the good ones for karma's sake. But we actually have something actually planned on the calendar with Shy Guy. So it might actually happen. I don't care. I'm just going to visualize. But we were saying that I think that through it all, we were almost content. You were almost content to say. I'll just go soft. Oh, I would have gone soft forever. With a gerrymandering. With a gerrymandering of DP, DVP. But I always said always at the same time. I didn't even want him in there alone first. Cause then I don't know who's who. It just, I feel something in me and it could be you. But through it all, I think that our feeling was sometimes there's a struggle on getting the repeats. I have had such struggle with the repeats. But I have decided it's because they're all in their 20s. And that's not what they're looking for. And I'm okay to give that up. Whereas on the other side, I don't think we've ever not had a repeat with a unicorn. Ever. Ever. Yeah. Well, no one, but we haven't seen her yet. But she wants to. Who? Lolita. Lolita. Long Island Lolita was a one off so far because we've only. Well, what about Stifler's mom? Oh, she's a one off too, but they both want to. Okay. We're going to see Long Island Lolita. There's no question about that. We're going to see Stifler's mom. Cause Stifler's mom's got to get together with Stacy's mom. Stacy's mom has got it going on. She's playing hard to get. So we'll see. I know. Chase us Stifler's mom. Man. And while this is still a new development and we don't quite have a proof of concept yet, we have been starting to reach out to some of the past ones that were really good to let them know that our boundaries might have expanded since the last time you saw us to see if you shake the trees. Does that shake some of the monkeys out of the trees? And we'll see. We'll see. This is new. We haven't. So far we've shaken one and I think we only set it to one. So we have a sample size of exactly one. And you know, it makes sense. If you're newbie out there and if you're soft and especially if you're doing MFMs guys out there, they essentially want to fuck your wife. And so yes, at the end of the day, will they have fun just watching? Will they have fun just touching, fingering, fondling? Will they have fun just getting a blow job? Yes. Will they come back? Maybe not. And the reason is because- It's a lot to get up to come out for. I don't think a lot of newbie couples realize that in the dynamic of an MFM, those guys don't just want to fuck your wife. They want to fuck your wife without you there. I mean, they're looking for a single gal. And so a hot wife is probably the very next closest thing. Because that means he gets to fuck her alone. Maybe he's only watching, but he's not even participating. That's like- And all the way on the other end of the spectrum is Leo who pops in there after 30 seconds and I'm shoving it in there. We're not quite there remotely yet. We're slowly unfolding that onion and it's really a slow process. Yeah, because in the Vlad the Impaler, after I went- That one had, of course, expanded quite a bit. We're expanding very quickly. But we realize if we don't see him again, we know why. Because at the end, I was sort of put out of action temporarily. Leo came. I came. We should all come. I'm sure it was during DP. It was. Was it? Yeah. You kept track of it. Yeah, I did. You made a little notch in the post. It was such a notch on the bed post. It was so hot. But at the end, we were just kind of mingling a little bit, talking, and then he popped up and he sort of intimated that maybe I'll just keep going. Well, I made him talk to me dirty at that point. And he basically said, I want to fuck you. And he asked me, do you mind if I continue? And I said, yeah, I'm not really down for that. You're not much of a watcher. I'm not much of a watcher. And he immediately said, yeah, yeah, neither am I. I don't blame you. But at the end of the day, is that enough to make him not come back out because it's not as free and open? But shortly after he got dressed and he knew the show was over. And he also said, you know, I enjoyed and I hope to see you again. Is that what you mean? Yeah. That sounds really dirty even today. I know. I liked it. I'm not quite a 69 yet. I still feel a little B 69. We're going to make a euphemism for that. OK. He said, I might have liked it. You. Uh-huh. Yeah. And he said, I hope to see you again soon. But at the end of the day, there is that elephant in the room and it's name is Leo. Exactly. Leo. Here he is. Because, you know, he's not exactly like a wallflower. He's a little hulking. And so here I am. Here I am. I'm not going to just sit by and watch. That's just not my thing. And at some point, though, I am going to probably release my grip. Release your inner. Yeah, we're not there yet. We're going so slow. What I'm getting at is to say that we're going to cosplay. We're going to sort of cosplay for the benefit of the single male where he for a moment thinks that you have feels like he's almost in Congress with you as if he's like with a single guy. Don't like saying that. I'm just going to tell you that right now. I don't want to say that. But it's OK. And I'm OK with that because I'm not actively seeking that either. 100 percent there. But I, you know, on paper, I am. But, you know, I still have my guard up in a lot of ways for that. Yes. So, you know, it's kind of interesting sitting here, just talking about it because we're sitting in the room that we might bring a guy in and we don't know what boundaries we're going to push. We're literally sitting next to the red, huge bed. You might have porn boy. That bro come help me. I hope I have a boy. He's in Vegas apparently. So freaking hot. We'll see. We'll be doing a shoot. So we'll see. Corn on the cob. Just means lots of sex. He's having. Gosh, if that does happen, it's going to have quite a slingshot effect because I have had a drought of five weeks right now. I know. I know. And that's a lot. I'm patient. Feel bad about. Oh, you're so sweet. I mean, I was really bad about it. You actually suggested canceling Pusser. Pusser galore. And I said, no way. I enjoy her company so much. There's no way. I wanted to cancel it, but I was willing to do that because I just feel like a heel after a while. I feel like I'm growing more selective, knowing that I'm pushing my boundaries. Well, that's a good point. I don't feel like just anybody will do. But we have talked about just because you nudge your boundaries. I never wanted the lifestyle to be a cheat code for guys to lay hands on me to get your honey hole. I did to me. That was like the last thing that I see. But you know, what we came up with is even if we nudge boundaries as we are slowly, it doesn't mean it's for everyone. We've actually we realized that there's going to have to be like a red light, green light situation where we meet a guy and you might say he's a yellow light. It means let's start slow and we'll see how it goes. Or if it's a green light, not everybody is going to be a fool. No. And so we'll go back to our gerrymandering, you know, lots of spit roasting, double blowjobs, maybe DP or DVP, but never full in that regard. And we're going to have to do that. At least in the early. Because then I can have people that I don't feel like are like the Krim don't look Krim because I feel like I'm closing doors otherwise. And then I'm going to go. I'm going to have a drought. OK, so we're going to the green door later. Yes, or the red rooster. Just going to play right on the open fling the door. We were saying that fit life feels like the red rooster. The Montchalé, the green door and the power exchange all got on and made an app had a baby had a baby. It's really bad. I know a lot of people say that life is a great place for kinky folk, but I don't know. I'm not finding good ones. Let me tell you. Somebody had mentioned that a lot of girls gravitate towards there because it feels like it's a safe space. We haven't tried finding girls there. So I did say I'm looking for an M for an MFM. But so far you've been trying to separate the wheat from the chaff. I think I've had at least 30 people reach out. I've seen a lot of chaff. Yeah, I've seen a lot of chaff. It feels like a chafe. Yeah, like it's going to give me some chaff. It makes Stapler, MacDreamy look like MacDreamy. I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there. Yeah, you're right. If you found him on FetLife, you would have been like, OK. Hell to the guy. Exactly. You're right. That's a good point. I know. So field is so much better. It's not as, you know, it doesn't the runway doesn't go forever, but it is so much better. And so far we're approaching that the couples. The couples that are on our radar, there are friends that end up being people that we've known for a long time, that there's a sense of trust that's built up that we finally made a friend and we'll see if there's any kind of flirty vibe just like Wisconsin. Yeah, we love Wisconsin. We do love Wisconsin. You guys better go to Naughty. We would like to see you again. Yeah, come to Naughty. Those are good people, right? Go to Young Swingers Week at Hito. Make both happen. You only live once. You got to embrace YOLO. Yeah. I might have got hot white for you. What? Are you serious? She's going to account. That really works. Oh, my God. I've used it twice. I said, you can use hands, fingers, cocks, but. He has such a big one. You should have put that all on the box. I'm just going to leave it in there. You whisper. So you think you might have it? I might make that happen. I am. Can you please become a manicorn whisper? Because I'm the unicorn whisper. I know. Do better. Make them happen for me. I know, but you know, you are mother trucker. Very specific taste and really hot guys under the age of 30. I mean, you're playing it on hard mode. I'm really trying to push it up to 35. OK, the fact of the matter is that we've never really had difficulty in that half of the double helix is finding unicorns. No, I know. And increasingly, what we're having a problem with is the single guys. And I think the problem is you. To me. Hi. I have the problem with me. Yeah, I mean, your cute problem to have. But you agree with me. Don't want you to settle, especially as we're going down this avenue. We have a cute 26 year old that we might meet later this weekend. He's a possible, but we got to see his personality. Poor boy could be around. What happened when we first jumped on the apps? I felt like there was a lot better selection. Is that my imagination? Denver Denver is hot. OK, we're going back to Denver. We have so many places that I don't even know. So Cal. Yeah, so Cal, I think kind of a lot of we're going to talk about plush. So Cal on another pod, because we talk too damn much about dirty Vegas. And the bottom line is for dirty Vegas. Try it once because you're in Vegas. Don't go with expectations, especially on the sexy fun side, because they don't have play groups for a party atmosphere. There are no. I mean, I guess technically there's a suite, but it's small. You really need to make connections and go to their crowd. You just go there to dance and the costumes are off the charts. They're fun. I think most of the people we found there, they were very affable, just good, decent people. They were friendly. And we personally stayed on the strip because we did not make it in time. And that was fun because we got to go to the party but go back to our hotel where we could. Well, we had four threesomes in three days. So that worked Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Naked wrestling. Would you like to see me wrestling naked? Oh my gosh, we're going to do that. Oh, yeah. Next time we're going to bring a key pool to Vegas and we're going to fill it up with like Hershey's syrup. We're going to put some mats down in the room. Never not. Oh, no fun. We're going to get naughty nanny in here. We should go to Alabama. We're going to do some naked mud wrestling in our Vegas. And they're going to knock on the door. I'd rather do it in the mud. Naughty nanny would do it. Oh, yes, you would. We've heard that the organizers are plushed when they put this on. They're a little difficult to get a hold of. They're bad at communications. Is that my imagination? I have heard that, like, if you need a refund, which they do offer refunds, it's hard to get a hold of them for that. But I will say they're super cheap. That is such a plus. I think we paid one hundred and seventy five bucks. It's a good value. It is. And we didn't even go to the pool party, which you can go to one hundred and one hundred and seventy five bucks. OK, for a party. Speaking of that's a hotel takeover. Twist in San Francisco is like one hundred and forty dollars for couples. Oh, my gosh. Which, by the way, if you're newbie on your journey, you should hit a club. It's a great club. It's a good newbie club. San Francisco. They just changed their policy about allowing single guys in on Friday night. Apparently that's off the table. It's couples only all the time, which will make Fridays busier because it sucked. It only had like five guys. We never saw one we liked. Maybe like five guys and they were all just sitting there like potted plants. So tonight we're going to go to Playhouse because Playhouse, which we've been to once, allows single guys on Friday night and we don't have anything lined up tonight. So maybe Kat will find something she likes. I think though, Plush, that party at that price point is actually a good value and it makes it worth going even if you just go for the party because you're in Vegas and Vegas has all the other clubs you could go to if you wanted to. How about the theme? What was the theme when we went? Rave. Rave. It was like electric, Daisy Carnival. You've been on the bliss cruise. You can recycle your theme night. Use your glow stuff for like EDM wear. 100 percent. And everybody, I'd say a good majority at least, dressed up. Yes. And I would say the age range was maybe 30 to 60. It was a good, lively crowd. Everybody was dancing. They had a second floor where they had a dance club in there. And you know, we didn't come across those clicky people that he was talking about, the insufferables. Yeah, but they were in there. You could see them. The second floor seemed a little more hospitable. It seemed like the people up there were more open and a little less uptight. Yeah, that's where we met Naughty Nanny. We met a bunch of other cool, some a cool couple from Alaska. There were some fun people up there and it was some fun vibes. It was B1. It wasn't BYUB. You're supposed to be buying drinks there. We didn't. What did we do? Smuggle it in? Yeah. You know, we did. Yeah, we probably bought a water bottle filled with some alcohol. Yeah. If you see us walking around with a Perrier bottle, we don't drink selzer water. No. You know, one of the other things about Naughty Nanny, she's like a free spirit that describes her beautifully. Yeah, she's like a two spirit. She's like a wisp. Is that what you call it? A wisp? Yeah, like a fairy. Like one of those lights in the woods. Yeah, that isn't even like. Yeah, like it doesn't have, it's like disembodied or something. She's just flitting all over the place. And so she belonged to Plush. It's a really fun party. It's a great price point. I would 100 percent try it. Now, one of the things that I thought that this Plush party was going to be, since it's supposed to be described as like a hotel takeover. It was a full hotel takeover. Being used to like the Magnolia takeover in Denver, the friction party in North Carolina. I thought you were going to be able to roam up and down the hallways on different floors. People would have their doors open. Yeah, it was nothing like that. There was no activity going on on the different floors. Some friends invited us out. We kind of peeked in. They tried to drag us into their room and we're like, you guys don't even have your room decorated. This isn't fun. And there was supposed to be one particular room. It's a suite. Yeah, it's sort of on the end of a long hallway. That wasn't going to open until 2 a.m. Now, when it did open, they allowed everybody to come in, do some mingling, but it didn't last very long. I think it only lasted maybe a couple of hours. I kind of encouraged people to go seek out after parties. There were a bunch of clubs having after parties, which all cost extra money. So that was a little bit convoluted. You're like, I paid 175. I feel like that's my all in price. And we didn't meet couples that we wanted to bring back. We brought Donnie Nanny back. But we liked Plush enough that it made us want to try the SoCal Mansion Party. Yeah, it gave us a taste. And now we're going to probably try the SoCal Lake Have a Soup Party and they keep talking about the Flesh and Fantasy Halloween ball that it's something else. It gave us enough of a taste to want to do the Mansion Party down in SoCal, which we're going to talk about on the next pod and tell you about our oafer. OK. Yeah, we absolutely struck out. We drove on a five hour road trip, which was a hell of a lot of fun. We had three things planned. We weren't freeballing. Like we're freeballing at this time, but we're OK because we're in Vegas. It's fun. We actually had things planned and everything fell through it. We went oafer and we'll talk about that next. And we're actually weighing whether we go to Scarlet Ranch for Halloween or we do that flesh and fantasy ball down in Palm Springs that Plush also puts on. I think we're going to do Scarlet Ranch. I think so. And it's our people, our friends and it's cheaper. And at the end of the day, this shit's expensive. Yeah, it is expensive. Yeah. You might have to get back to work one of these days. One of these days. So let's get back to work. Yeah, you got me throwing blue strips. Bad tips in a strip club. So if you liked what you heard, go ahead and either subscribe or I didn't know how that works. I don't know. Just come and listen. Yeah, we might post once a week. We might post a couple times a month. I don't know. You might get bored and stop doing it. So you better come and listen while it's still going. Otherwise, we'll lose interest. Tell us how much you like it. Yeah, that kind of comment. That'd be cool. We love it. Where can they leave a comment? I don't know. Maybe we'll also comment. We don't have a website. OK.