Moron Nation Unfiltered

Moron Nation Unfiltered Episode 10: Big Wangs, No Prep Thangs and What's New With Daddy Dave!

116 min
Apr 8, 202610 days ago
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Summary

Episode 10 of Moron Nation Unfiltered features host Dave discussing drag racing, vehicle tuning, and personal lifestyle changes. The episode covers recent racing events at Digger Dye, upcoming race schedules, tuning strategies for different track surfaces, and Dave's weight loss journey for professional motorsports competition.

Insights
  • Power management and suspension tuning are more critical than aerodynamic modifications like large wings for drag racing performance
  • Financial sustainability in racing requires either sponsorship or diversified income streams; racing alone is not economically viable long-term
  • Track surface conditions fundamentally change suspension setup requirements—poor surfaces require squat while good surfaces require extension
  • Social media commentary on public figures can be extremely negative and disconnected from reality, requiring thick skin and selective engagement
  • Professional motorsports at the NHRA level represents a significant step up in competition quality and fan engagement compared to grassroots racing
Trends
Shift from street racing to sanctioned track racing (NHRA, Outlaw Syndicate) among professional drag racersIncreased adoption of methanol fuel in drag racing for weight reduction and performance gainsGrowing use of 3D printing technology for motorsports prototyping and custom parts manufacturingAll-wheel drive trucks gaining traction in drag racing but facing limitations on certain track surfacesSponsorship becoming essential requirement for competitive racing at professional levelsMulti-series racing strategy where drivers compete in different classes/formats to maintain income and engagementIncreased focus on data-driven tuning and ECU management over traditional mechanical modificationsSocial media toxicity affecting public figures in motorsports, leading to comment moderation strategies
Companies
NHRA
Major professional drag racing sanctioning body; hosts races the team is competing in this season
Outlaw Syndicate
Racing series organized by the hosts; next event at Brainerd with specific rule sets and payouts
ProLine
Engine builder providing fresh motors for upcoming races; currently working on engine builds
FuelTech
ECU/tuning platform used for drag racing; mentioned as preferred tuning solution
VP Racing Fuels
Fuel supplier; featured in promotional video that generated social media controversy
Hoosier
Tire manufacturer; supplies tires for asphalt midget racing with staggered sizing options
McVitie's
Biscuit brand; featured in opening advertisement segment
EDF Energy
Energy company; mid-roll advertisement offering free electricity incentives
Shopify
E-commerce platform; featured in closing advertisement for business setup
Sammy Swindell Racing
Sprint car racing operation; mentioned regarding asphalt midget racing involvement
People
Dave
Primary guest discussing racing career, weight loss, and upcoming race schedule
Sean
Co-host discussing Pro Mod racing, weight loss journey, and social media criticism
Dalton
Driver being tuned for track racing; recently achieved 118 60-foot time
Ryan Martin
Mentioned as consistent competitor; uses compressed air turbo system
Casey Maxx
Competitor using big wing modifications and LS turbo combinations
Chris Bell
Uses 3D printing for motorsports mockups and custom parts; owns Thunderbird project
Billy
Competitor with Camaro using big wing modifications
Brent
Won Gangster Backside No Prep with minimal modifications; experienced head gasket issues
Crazy Horse
Dominant all-wheel drive competitor using 80+ pounds boost and nitrous
Cletus
YouTube content creator documenting drag racing events with transparency
Scott
Won Alice in the Kid race; competed in grudge racing with radio car
Brandon
Experienced tuner working with drag racing programs; started racing young
Nick
Works with leaf spring suspension; provides tuning input for racing programs
Phantom
Handles rules enforcement and class organization for Outlaw Syndicate races
Aiden
Assists with engine work and vehicle modifications; helped disassemble 55 Chevy
Quotes
"Power management is what we did our whole careers was power management. And things change. Power management stuff gets better. I don't believe that you need all that stuff."
DaveMid-episode
"If you got them, you can do it. If you don't, you can't. I don't care if you're super rich and you have other means of income. You have to step back."
SeanEarly-mid episode
"I don't regret anything about the show. Anybody that says street outlaws and the people involved with street outlaws didn't have something to do with the revival of drag racing is only in denial."
DaveLate episode
"I lost weight on purpose guys. Do I like where I'm at right now? Absolutely not, man. I'd like to gain about 20 pounds back and call it good."
SeanLate episode
"The only thing I'll say that I hated about it is it's burning me out on it once it turned into a job. It was definitely burning me out on racing."
DaveLate episode
Full Transcript
Hear that. That's a McVitie's moment starting. Whether it's a work catch-up. Oh, don't mind if I do. Or five minutes in the work run. Go on, help yourself. Grab the digestives today and make it a McVitie's moment. His hair's starting to look real Gallagher-ish. Getting him a big mouth. On the side. On the side, it's starting to. Float out on the sides. Good looking kid. Man, this is our tenth episode, dude. It is? We've made it to number ten. We've done as many episodes as we have listeners now. That's right. That's right. It's taking us a long to get me here. We're never here. You're never here. You're always in New York. Or we're on the road. Mainly he's in New York. He just don't like being around us. I know. That's what it is. I know. Well, I would have gotten in trouble. He's trying to change his life. Trying to turn over a new leaf. You got to go to some roundy-round track if you want to see Dave these days. Not a race track. Or snowmobile. I can see Dave being a roundy-round guy. Not New Dave. New Dave is... He's more classy. Old Dave though. Mullet Dave. I can see you in a circle track back in the day. Yeah, for sure. No shirt on. Smoking out of his mouth. Mullet flowing out of his heart beat of America hat. You had those up. You had those up. You knew what you were getting into. I remember he had the Chevrolet hat. Oh, yeah. So episode 10, more on Nation unfiltered. I mean, 10 is kind of a milestone, dude. 10. That means it's been like three months that we've been doing this. Minimum. Minimum of three months. So episode 10, and we have a special guest. Father David. He just had a birthday. He did. Another one. Did you get your AARP card yet? It's close. Creeping up on that deal. To the age right now where that's not even a joke. Yeah. That's for sure. You're going to take some pride when that deal comes in. I'll post it. Let everybody know. Officially old. Better than the alternative. At least to a point. I don't want to live so long. I don't want to be super old. It doesn't look that fun, honestly. You're on shit in yourself. Yeah. Once you're past the... guys, he can say that he's old. You know what I mean? There's not a whole lot to look forward to. And I'm... I feel like you guys are there. I'm pretty close to that right now. I'm shippin' old guys. That's because he's old. Don't worry about it, guys. He's never going to change. Man. So today's kind of a good day. Like... So I just got back with the fire donker right from the dyno. And I've had that thing on the dyno five times. That's that gangster cat. Is the cat's coming in here? No. What? With that door open? No, the door's closed. Well, then it's stuck in here. That's the problem, then. It wants out. She's super eighth. Don't get up and let it up. So I've had the donker on the dyno five times. Today was the fifth time. It's always something. It's probably the car's fault. There's just been a lot of stupid little issues. Well, finally everything sorted out. I think they made 1,500 on... Not a lot of boost. Like the same boost that my truck made. 1,500 plus to the tires. 31 pounds? 31 pounds. That's pretty impressive. And it'll make more. But what for? I mean, if we need to make more, it's ready. We'll just put a bigger number in and go make more. Probably should just put a bigger turbo on it. That 94's close to out. I thought it was a 102. No, no. Well, there's a guy who says he's going to come and buy it. If I... Don't change my mind. You got to change turbo for him to come buy it. No, that's why we quit. Yeah. I mean, we have a 98 for it. We just haven't put it on there. It's a big 98. Yeah. It's still fine. The back pressure was just... The turbo's getting close to... It took 60 pounds of dome to make 30 pounds of boost. So back pressures. She's about up there. There was no reason in doing anything else. But it's still on E85. That's good numbers for on QE E85. And it's still safe. Oh yeah. By the time he quit, 11 something or one? Airfield? Yeah, like a little bit too. So it was still fat. Yeah. It's nice and safe. If that dude comes and buys it, he'll be plenty safe with it. He ain't going to go out there and hurt it. Yeah, you know, if I decide to sell it. Yeah. That's the reason we don't give people a number. Yeah. Because some people are serious about it. I gave him a number that I thought was more than anybody's willing to pay. Thought I might scare him away. Well, it didn't. He's called me every single day. Every day. I know. Put a number out there and that man just had to have it. That's all you need when you're selling something, man. One person to want it. That's why I don't tell people the number on Shop Trek when they ask me. Yeah. Because what if? It's a lot of money. It only takes one. No. So, speaking of the Audi, it is currently four sell. I am thinking that I'm probably going to end up putting the MPK car up. I'll race it this year, but race it while it's four sell, you know, and if somebody has to have it. If not, I'll just set on it. Yeah, plenty of opportunity. I got plenty of places I could race like that while it's up for sale. Yeah. So, I want to. A, I'm just... Well, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work to race one of those cars. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of work. It's definitely not a one man job. No. You can't, as just one person, unless you gather up a crew, you can't just go out and race these cars. And that takes away a lot of it. Whereas... Well, yeah. And then the car that you just drove here from your house, which is, you know, 20 minutes, but still, it didn't matter if we were two hours away. He could have still drove the same car. He drove it to Tulsa. That is a one man unit right there. Like, you could go out, drive that thing around, take it to the track, race it by yourself. Very, very low maintenance. Drive it home. Yeah. Cause it's fun. Race a full size truck in low gangsters. Oh. He don't want to do that. I promise you. It did not happen. No, it was testing. It was 590 index. Oh, was it? We both broke way out. The guy who went slower. Yeah. No, it's a lot of it's a lot of everything to mess with the big cars. Effort, time, money, dedication, like if you want to be really good at it, like, it's not just something... you got to figure something out. You know, like, and I don't blame Dave for stepping back. He's not really stepped away from it. Just stepping back. That's what we all are going to have to do at some point. You know, and and me and Dave have talked a whole lot about sponsorships. And sponsorships is what it takes to race at this level. If you got them, you can do it. If you don't, you can't. I don't care. You're super rich and you have other means of income. You know, own your own construction company. Own your own whatever. A lot of construction. Yeah. No, no, you have to step back and I feel like I do too. I realize before everybody else the money I do have, I want to keep. I want to spend it going broke, going racing. Yeah, because nothing's guaranteed. Nope. You can try to go across the United States like we have millions of times and get your teeth kicked in by Ryan Martin every week. I guarantee you're going to win. Oh, yeah. No, you can never count on the pot. That's always a bonus. You can count on it. You might count getting smaller from trying to do it. Yes. I figured that out. How many people have we watched do it over the years? Everybody. All of them. All of them. At some point, you just got to be a little bit smarter and now if you could always go back a little bit and be smarter earlier, then we'd be set. Yes. But nobody ever is. If you could. I think I made some good financial decisions. Me and the White House. Yeah. Selling the race cars is a really big financial decision. Man, look, that's tough though. Like, the reason I can't do it is because that is my means of income. Now, is it more income than outcome? I don't know. But with the spot, now it's still more income than outcome. We spend the money on everything else. Yes. But at some point, as far as what I'm saying about Dave, that's his last car. Yeah. Whereas we could get rid of the MPK car and the OG would do everything that the MPK car can do. Yeah. No, we have multiple cars that can do the same stuff. And then we have multiple 530 cars or whatever. Yes. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm thinning out. Any Audi, I was never attached to that car. Yeah. It's a super cool car. Yeah. I'm not married to anything in my life. Yep. Let it go. So, I mean, you haven't done as much racing, like you haven't been behind the wheel of a drag car, but you've been doing some tuning, right? I've been a lot of tuning. I actually sat down the other night and figured it out, 21 cars. That's a decent payday. Yeah. We're all in the same place. We're in the track and make money instead of spend it. Man, that's a good thing. So, just like you just got back from Digger Die. I did. So, yeah, Dave, won it last year with Joe Schmo. Joe Schmo's car. That's Joe Schmo. Yep. Does he make things? No. Okay. I'm going to go for a different Doug Joe Schmo. Okay. And then his car wasn't ready this year, right? So, he didn't have it there. Someone else brought me out there to to nurse and how's that going? Drive Chef sensor. Oh, yeah. Man, I get in so much trouble when a drive chef sensor stops working. Oh, man. Digger Die is not the surface for it. Now, there ain't a car on the property that don't have some sort of traction control on it. So, you were at Digger Die the last one. Did you see the dumb shit wreck into the other car? I did. Yeah. I did. You watched it. I'm not the cops. No, he said he heard it. Oh, you heard it. So, we were pitted down here and there's the road that goes down through and then there's bank up and there's upper pits. Happened right up there. Like literally I heard it and then I heard everybody all the RU didn't do that. Did you hear a bunch of skin to skin sound after that? But you know, everybody was like oh, like that. I thought, well, maybe the guy made a good flick or something. Maybe I could test it. And now, I still can't believe that, man. One of you guys trucked back. But they do it. I'm sure the cops weren't going to let them. I think he's gone for like, I want to say four hours. Yeah, back with 40 G's. Really? Oh, we did. See, I didn't hear any of that. Like somebody said the dude was worth it. Yeah, like they blocked all the stuff in and said you're not leaving with your stuff until wow. That man. It's good that he was good for it. Damn. Damn. I mean, then he asked if he could do the one that he wrecked. I mean, wrecked into. I mean, he did kind of buy it. Yeah. Or he bought his freedom. How ever you want to look at it? I'm sure in the eyes of the law. They said you better leave. So they didn't, he didn't get the car. That's tough, man. Yeah. Like last year they were doing it. I wouldn't say it was making passes, but there was a lot of people breaking in, scrubbing in tires. Well, there's probably better places to do it in the middle of the pits. Yeah. Man, there's always a yes, yes. Anywhere. Like even at our race, they were guys, they'd go down to the end where there was nobody and they. We heard people. Yeah. But there was nobody. He did that. He did that for sure. That's a better question. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it could happen to anybody for sure. Man, okay. He built up some speed. He built up some speed before he hit that car. Oh, they were wrecked. Pretty wrecked. Well, yeah, the throttle's stuck, then. That's everybody's story, right? His foot was on it. Something was holding it stuck. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy stuff. Yeah. Did the car G mess with? Got big wings? No. Is that like a thing? Is that a must? Yeah. I think it's funny to watch all them and they all got those. I mean, even Casey Maxx now has that front wheel or whatever, you know, and he's just sitting there bouncing the whole time and that Fox body just drove away from me. Worked out. So, so no big wings for your, for the guys that you're tuning with. Like if they have one, are they not your guy? Yeah. Yeah. I don't, there's a lot of cars that got it. But, no, I'm not saying, well, I'm saying there's a lot of cars that got it. Yeah, I know. I don't, I don't have an answer. And honestly, I can't. There was a car. I can't make an argument either way. I can't either because we haven't actually got out and done it. I don't believe that you need that stuff. There's plenty of cars out there that have shown that they don't need them. Right, good news car. There's nothing special. I promise you. It's an old. Is it still a tour car? Oh, okay. That'd be cool. Everything's small back there and don't have no big. Yeah. And he ain't got no weight hanging off the parachute bars. Not like that. And you're on 153 mile up. Big or die. Yeah. I don't think you need them. Well, it's just, you know, if you're the guy that has all that stuff and you get out ran like, what do you say? What happened? Do they work? Sure. I've seen cars. Casey Maxx. They work, but they're counterproductive. If you're putting downforce on the back, you're creating lift in the front. So, I don't know. I don't think any of our cars will ever have that. They have a big wing. But it had bars, inch and five, eight bars running out to it. Reinforced all over. I said, how much does that wing weigh? A couple hundred pounds. 300 pounds. Why do you need 300 pounds back there if you got a big wing back there for all the dogfors? Yeah. So, what's really doing what? Is the wing doing it or is the 300 pounds doing it? It's the weight. You can literally see the cars that are just bouncing off the front tire like this. You can tell that they're 60 on the rear. 40 on the front. You don't need the downforce if that's the way your car is set up. A long time ago, which I'm not going to say a long time ago, since we got out of street racing, nobody ever really tried that stuff whenever we were street racing. Chief came out with that big wing after all that. That was dumb then. But I feel like whenever I realized what are all these people doing, I don't know if these wings are worth it or not. We never saw that we needed them. And then at the pad down in New Orleans when Frankenstein Oh, yeah. Yeah, Rideau vs. World Car. Isaac Preston. And then came out with the Frankenstein car and they took that car out there that is 100% probably the most rigid car that was on the property. It's a Rideau vs. World Car. It's a Rideau vs. the World Car. And they went out and they just destroyed everybody that they raced out there. That right there has got to tell you something. That's got to tell you that you don't have to have 19 inches of travel, which that car, it had some decent travel. They had just put longer travel shocks on it than they had. And at first, not trophy truck style, but that right there just showed me that you don't need all that stuff to go out there and win. You just need good power management. And that is what we did our whole careers was power management. And things change. Power management stuff gets better. I don't believe that you need all that stuff. I'm also not a fan of for street racing purposes, radio purposes, it might be better. But the sensors, wheelie sensors, they're on the street. I don't know. I'm just not a fan of it. And like what Dalton has on his car now with the throttle bodies and that stuff. I don't think that you need all that stuff. You're looking way too much into it. You ain't trying to reinvent the wheel here. We've been going fast on shit surfaces or on the street for years. I don't think all you're trying to do is bandaid the problems with that stuff. I like innovation and I like people trying different stuff. I don't know how the big wing thing has stuck. But for whatever reason, man, like obviously somebody who's messing with that stuff sees something that makes him want to keep doing it and add it to everything else. Casey Maxx is very smart. He is. He's a smart dude. I think he's looking into this too much. He needs to just go back to what he was doing and just making that car fast. I'm four-linked. Bar's back there to wonders. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, and you know, the... What about the all-wheel drive trucks? I mean, manual has those on every single... Every truck he touches. You will not show up to be on his team if you don't have a wing on your truck or all-wheel drive whatever. So what is it? Oh, he did. But you know, that car had a wing. You know why? Those trucks aren't going faster than 520s. On any surface, it doesn't matter. If you're on a very good track, they're not even going to run 530s. Shit tracks, 530s. 520s-ish. And it might go a little bit faster than that, man. That crazy horse. Crazy horse might go a little bit faster than that. He said something about... He's making 80 pounds of boost and spraying the house down on top of that. So the Chevy diesel that was on their team, that gray one, he went 492. He left Florida, went to Texas for a race, and went 492. That's pretty good. It's a pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty damn fast, man. Especially for that. The all-wheel drive stuff just... Man, it's just not going to go that fast at the track. Yeah. I don't know. I would like to know exactly what it is that they see that makes them want to keep using it. Because I'm curious. I don't want to put one on anything. I don't know which trucks are manuals versus which are... Velocity, yeah. Velocity, midnight, and there's three different groups. No, no, no. Pasadena didn't have one there. I get what you're saying, though. I'm talking about... I just strictly watched whatever videos have came out from that down there. Mainly Cletus's video. Because Cletus doesn't give two shits, man. He will go right next to somebody and then tell what he ran. Really? I'm about to watch it. 520 out there. The car that I ran him, though, the one that won it and put a car in a half. Put a car in a half on him. Have you seen that guy? He's a freaking monster. Monster. I think it's awesome. He had his family out there. It's really cool. I was glad to see that he won. No, not at all. He went to the final last race, too. I was happy to see... I'm going to say this because I don't know this dude from Adam. I was happy to see anybody win but the crazy horse guy. Aw. Is he your guy? He's the old, so you got to... What's the problem? The dude's very arrogant. He's the greatest thing ever. I agree with you. But people like that about us, too. Whenever our car's working and we're kicking people's ass, we've got that same attitude, too. I think the guy was humble about when he won. Because last year, another boy won. The other guy was not? That guy was from... Yeah, that's Velocity. Yeah, that's Manuel. Yeah, I mean, his... He's midnight. He makes a lot of videos, though. His videos are funny. His videos are funny. He bought all those plan Bs. That shit killed me. He's not the Watticash. I don't dislike him at all. I was very humble about it. I was going to say... I just have a question. Do you all think that if Billy didn't have that big wing on his Camaro, he would have taken flight against Casey Maxx? No. You think if he didn't have it, he wouldn't have taken flight? It puts weight back there. Plus, I don't care what anybody says, man. At the top end... That's whatever it creates, lives. It probably starts creating downforce. At what mile an hour do you think it... 130? Oh, I don't know what his took flight. You talking about... I think that it starts coming into play when you took flight on that radial track. How fast do you think you were going to... No, I climbed the ring gear. That's totally different. That had nothing to do with downforce. That didn't have... Now... I climbed the ring gear both wheelies on the radials. Even the one that I went through the finish line. That was different. That was not downforce. That had nothing to do with downforce. It bounced off of a... the first wheelie that was how I came in with the power management. And then Eric gets under the car. Yeah, it's like an airplane. At that point, it's an airplane. That's totally different than what Casey Max did whenever he went over and what Billy did whenever he was racing. On yours, it was a radial track. Billy was on a... It was a pit ride. No, that was because... That's strictly downforce. Of course, the wing, the bias... I don't know what he... That's why I have the very end. Once the mile an hour starts taking into play. That's why I say those wings don't do anything for you in the eighth mile. Now, you're talking in the last 50, 75 feet. That's about when it starts coming into play. That car should be rolling by then. So, I mean, I've seen... Without that. I've seen someone, they posted their data and I couldn't really read it because it was an ECU. I don't really care to look at their data. But they showed where they thought... No, no, no, don't... Don't... But they showed their shock. It looked just like ours when the wing takes over at half track. That's all it looked like. Our small-ass wing does the same thing... We've talked about this before. This is the same conversation we had whenever they told us we could only have a 20-inch wing in MPK. And everybody got upset. Yeah, and we're like, that's what we got anyways. Done. We didn't have to change nothing. And I've said this numerous times. I could pull the wing off this car and still go make a pass. It would be terrible. I could be full of shit when it comes to that just to let you guys know. I would do it. But literally, we have, what, three-quarter of an inch wicker on ours? We've never needed any more than that. That thing will bury our shocks and we'll need to be. And you're talking 200 miles versus 100 a year or whatever the third time. Anything over 150, that comes into play. So now, if I had that stupid big wing on the back of my car, it'd be riding the bars through the finish line. Because we're doing 210 mile an hour. Yeah. It's trying to take off like an airplane. So my serious that I have... Pushing down. No wings allowed. They'll never do that though. No, he said he did. Oh, nice. Nice. It doesn't matter. What about butt hurt bars? See, that's why I was going into... Brent already, four-luck thug. He just won a gangster backside no prep and in his post, he said, winner, winner, it was like a 20 car fuel. He said no wing, no butt hurt bar, completely normal looking car. Outta boy, outta boy. Makes me like him even more. He's in trouble with his car. Like you've seen, I'm sure, just non-stop every time he makes a pass towards the head gasket. Well, I had those problems with my truck for a while and we kind of went over everything that I'd fixed and he'd already done all that. So he got all new motor, new heads, everything. And it turns out it was his injectors. He feels like. And that's what he said. He said the head gasket's still in and I'm on cloud nine right now. I was happy for him. Yeah, I like that dude. So that was a car at Digger Dye. I don't know about it. How thick is the plate that holds your parachute under the back of your car? The thing that parachutes both. On our car? How thick is it? I mean, 8 inch. The plate? Piece of aluminum. Yeah, 8 inch aluminum. This man had a, his was 3 inches thick. The size of the parachute. Just over 100 pounds. Yeah. You try to play it off like there's a parachute. Bro. Yeah. Good try man. And I told him that when they took it. They made him take it off. Did they really? Yeah. Oh, because they're not supposed to be any external weight. Outside the body line. See, Brent has like down near like where like you'd put like a push bar at. He has a couple of weights down there. Yeah. That's the body line. Yeah. The body line's a thing. It'd be like if you had a hitch on a car. Yeah, that's basically what he has. Yeah. About where we hook up on our push, push cars to. Yeah. A lot of that out there. And it's the end of the wing. Okay. And I get that. And I get that. Anybody that knows anything about physics knows that the amount of weight outside the body can be half of what it is in the body and do the same thing. So as far as you can get that weight back, the more leverage that you're going to have. So obviously that's always best. And man, we've went around and round and round with everybody. Even the smartest people that we know in the world. I go around with Chris Bell on where weight needs to be to get a car to rotate. And he always tells me and I always have concerns. And every once in a while I'll go, I know what he said. We're going to put the weight right here. You know? So I just know that as far back, back there by the tail, you know, zip time to the tail lights if that's what you got to do. Get it to the back and obviously get it as high and as far back as possible to get it to rotate. And then let the suspension do its job. I've got a question. So a lot of guys at Digger die. Terrible surface. Yes. And it's crazy to think that that's a terrible surface because it looks like it's had 20 years of race cars going. Yeah, it looks like a race track now for sure. But it is absolutely the worst of it. All the cars out there want to separate. Oh yeah, you can't do that. They do. Like all the cars out there separate. Man. And then they throw those are the first round. On the car that separates. I mean, what's your theory on that? I get why they would do that. But they're trying to create surface. If you're going to if you're going to extend smash the tire, you have to have a little bit of hook for the suspension to work so that doesn't work. So they're trying to load it down to push on that tire and that doesn't work. If they're going to do that, they need to put it seems like they just basketball the tire when it did finally. What? What? What? It'll porpoise out there. What? If they're going to put all that weight in it, then they need to put it on the four link on the housing. If they're going to do that. But either way, that ain't going to work in my opinion. Well, we have the same outlook. Okay. Why would like, why would you have to you have to compress if there's no surface? The suspension has to work and you have to compress it. I mean, from we've talked the only way that it works. I've literally beat this into Dalton's head because I've talked to you a lot about this just like whatever. Because Dalton doesn't listen when I think of a terrible surface, I think you want to squat it and push down with weight. The whole weight of the car comes down on the time on a radio track when you have surface underneath you, you want to extend that's also whenever you put too much in it or whatever instantly just zips the tires and then but you don't see the you don't see the whole asset even on these radio cars because like whatever you used to leave on seven out of 10 times you're going to see them smoke the tires when you used to leave on the street, it's just like you watch the car before it even lose those Ford it on my own instantly just hunkers down. Yeah, hunkers down. Yeah. But what do we used to call it? Bar stool. You got to get the cars on the street to bar stool. It's the only way that it works. It will tip over on a bar stool and then you just ride. Every bit of weight the fastest the car is going to be to the 60 foot is with the tire the front end three feet off the ground because there's no weight that is not on the back two tires but can either one of those cars go to say okay so say a terrible street or a terrible surface you want to squat really really good surface you want to extend what do the cars do when they go to the median like in the middle medium I I would like to cause I would stand still extend in the car I would have a fly paper you need a squad that's five paper you need to separate extend my because Dalton's been trying to extend on the street for however long now that's but look at when you watch the videos tonight at play this is pretty well I just know but now the Corvette yeah this thing is three foot near in the front and back yeah and this thing jumps up when it leaves it just boom really yeah I saw that so I don't know I guess emotions about that and I and that must hang out to him to dig or die and I know the third round I had him pull way down the trunk because I'm like man if you if you want to separate it there's no sense of holding it down make that thing separate and push the friggin tire down I know I know some leaf spring I've seen like Nick's truck works pretty well on the street and he extends but it's we have to on a leaf spring so just like a ladder and the 55 seems to work okay on the street yeah and I mean I'm not saying you can't do it I've seen people out there and that's the way that they do it I'm just saying but none of those cars out there leaf springs you can go faster the other way yeah now you can go down anything with power management it all goes back to power management but you can put more power in it in my opinion if you squat a car on the street a lot of the mustangs were factory suspension factory triangle were falling like oh you got to separate these cars that's boosted so the guy I'm tuning went out there to tune his car he actually wants me to stay with this program and I'm gonna we're gonna squat that thing that's what I would do we're gonna squat it and that's just changing your four-link bars making it this versus this and that'll make it squabbers extend I mean your your Chevelle is the same as is what a Mustang is triangulated but they can't I would I would squat that car too I would make that car squat which that's why it's set up now is to squat even though triangulated four-link is naturally it wants to extend that's why mustangs are such good radial cars then they want to beat their chest and go stock suspension what's the best stock suspension you can get it's a factory race car that's what it is so I don't know and it's tough for me to even say this stuff I've said this on the last podcast we're not street racers anymore you know and I'm okay with that so this is just me I have not tried any of this stuff in a long time so this is just me saying that but yeah but you could take the OG Nova out to a street and you can make it work yeah absolutely we did it I know I guarantee I can I'm gonna start experimenting with that one out there out the money because it's got all the adjustments well and now that Dalton's car is working really good at the track as soon as we take it to the and I told him he calls me up so I don't know if you knew or not but Dalton went to the track off the trailer and went 499 and it was pretty cool Nick said hey flash that tune in there Dalton flashed a different tune up in there which is more hot and it took that one Nick was gonna go like a 4 or a 5 0 5 10 whatever he'd have got us an excellent tune in it but it took it and that's that's what we always say now they're a step ahead that's one less pass that they got a waste on the car but so then they tried to back it up and they wheelied every pass and so he's got the wheelies in his hand and it's just killing the power so I told him I can fix that it's not a big deal you shouldn't have to kill that with power at the track whenever you have adjustments now all he's got is ladder bar so he doesn't have a whole lot of adjustments but I will extend that car more so now that his front end is working so well he's got 12 inches of travel when he locked it down no it's as tight as it can go but it has about half travel is where he's at right now so I told him to leave that there and I can make that thing not wheelie and we will just extend it more at the track because right now it's initially it extends and then it compresses so when it compresses it's wheelieing if you extend that car now it's going to push the front end down so I can fix that wheelie the rear shock's not tight enough or what? not necessarily that it's the leverage of the ladder bar so right now the way that I had him set that car up was 1.2 degrees uphill so you know as soon as you let go of the button the chassis will come down a little bit which will make that bar about level and then after that we can start making it extend and it will push the front end down instead of wheelieing because right now everything that he did with that front end made that car made the car work better now the ass end is working and everything's fine so then on the street we'll just go the opposite way or actually 17 inch crank height has anything to do with that? oh yeah yeah that's part of it anytime you can get the crank above the rear end the car's going to wheelie or it's going to transfer not necessarily wheelie it's going to transfer and that's exactly what he wants on the street and so now in my opinion the way that the car is working is the track right now that is his street tune up sorry street suspension now you're going to put a couple hundred pounds in the trunk and take a little bit out as you go and it may not need that couple hundred pounds but in my opinion he takes that car just the way that it is right now but at the track he's going to have to change the suspension up because it's wheelieing too much and it'll go faster but man it went 118 to the 60 foot that's pretty amazing man that is legit good and with that you told me you taught me right you want to get your motor as low as you possibly can get it for a good surface maybe and I don't even know if that's the case anymore Brandon wanted ours at what? with the radio he wanted it lower than what it is but you couldn't get the I didn't know he wanted it lower than what it is that car's built funny for whatever reason because the number one bar is where he wants it but you can't get the crank any lower that's one problem we couldn't really put any more power in it than what we did yeah, that's the reason it was wheelieing at EDF we don't just encourage you to use less electricity we actually reward you for it that's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays we give you free electricity on Sundays how you use it is up to you EDF change is in our power how so to shift weekday peak usage by 40% for earn up to 16 hours of free electricity for subject to fair usage care for all season series visit edfenergy.com forward slash high power plus the shocks wouldn't allow us to extend it as fast as what we wanted to to overcome from the wheelie right so yes but I think that Dalton's car now where it's at I think it's going to work pretty good on the street but he's going to have to raise up if he's in the bottom hole right now he's going to have to raise it all the way up actually I think he's in the middle hole I think he's going to have to raise it up anytime he goes to the track and then I just have a question just personally whenever you guys slow down if you know ever would y'all ever consider taking the OG car to Brown County that place is a mess yeah I was just wondering if you would I'm taking two cars in it is a mess those two funny cars are going to go down it that's why they won't make a full hit it's becoming a he keeps making posts every week or something like that saying I'm going to put this thing down at Brown County I mean I would but yeah no I would just to try it I don't think it's any sketchy or anything else we've ever done it's just dude the people there yeah damn even the middle if you get loose and go to the middle and you hit that grass it's going to turn that car around there's so much stuff that can go wrong yeah exactly there's so many tracks I got bucket list like the hill I'm going to that the one that we went to that one year obviously we didn't get the race on it you been there I forgot the name as soon as you hit that transfer to uphill there's so many sparks English mountain is the one I'm thinking of it's got a big hill we went up there and sat on it and I took a cool ass picture hanging on my wall but there's cars the one that I've seen their car they're out of control spinning back and forth we got to adjust even more because they're going uphill now and it's insane I've seen cars they hit sparks fly everywhere all of them there's a lot of cool tracks I'd like to go to our next Outlaw Syndicate is one of them at Brainerd so we went there that one year we didn't get the race because the car was broken I'm pretty excited so whenever I go to Arques or when I used to go to Arques all the time I'd actually go up through Chattanooga I would go up through Nashville and drop down through Chattanooga and I'd drive by that track a lot KD Motorsports Park is what it's called in Ohio Billy goes there because that guy that I think he goes with the 10 soldiers guys a lot I said I want to go to Hilltum and he goes well that's I host the events there so yeah Brainerd man that's our next Outlaw Syndicate what y'all got any different plans for this or we gonna try anything different well the lady at Brainerd is pretty amazing and she hosts a lot of races and so she's been helping us out a lot on this so I think we're gonna learn a whole lot at this race from her this would be my second year yeah hell yeah it's tough cause you guys are used to having people tell you where to go when to be there what to do when you get there now you're the guys that's having to do all this getting asked questions and all that you don't know the answer to yeah yeah yeah there's so many questions I don't know the answers to last year we had some incidents and I think I handled it really really well so good they've got me in charge of a class I don't know how that happened cause he's a rules guy don't make it favorable for you cause I don't race in a class it's a daily driver so this guy comes up to us at the last race I don't care I can't believe this guy comes up and he comes over to he's like hey man I've seen three different sets of rules can you clarify some stuff on daily driver so he starts and he's like okay what do you need to know you know and I said well first off man tell me you're not on a slick he's like no I'm on a radial and we're like oh okay because the first guy was on a slick but he clearly had a daily driver ish truck ran 750s or something you know and so this guy comes over I had a slick but probably didn't need it I was, I liked the dude so I was trying to find him a radial we couldn't find him one anyways go ahead so this guy says three sets of rules and we're like there's only one set of rules on the deal so phantom pulls it up at outlaw syndicate and starts reading him the rules and he says he's got a hood stack hood stack on it clearly says he's not gonna exhaust no like no like specifically no hood exits no fender exits and then and he's like no man it doesn't fit it's not gonna fit those rules and I'm like well can you not run there's a 650 index class and he goes I'm not slowing it down that fast that much and I go oh there's a 530 index class man run little gangsters that's a cool ass class and he goes I'm not gonna slow the car down and I sit there and I went huh and he goes yeah I'm not I'm just not gonna slow the car down to run daily driver and I go you got a fucking daily driver that you gotta slow down to run 530s and he's like yeah and I go oh you're puppy kippin kicking anyways man 100% and he goes man we literally just drove from Texas 2K straight here where we ran a daily driver there's parts running 460s in that class and I go and you know as well as I do those aren't daily drivers he was just looking to puppy kick man you know and that ain't gonna happen yeah no that like that class was supposed to be kind of like what we had at MPK right where you could bring your rental car or you could bring your real daily driver yeah what do you mean that would have been better than what this guy's trying to run you know like I get it our payout is really good for daily driver but it shouldn't be but that's gonna bring out people like that you know like right now we're getting emails of people wanting to know if we're gonna test the fuel for daily drivers that means you need to have your fuel tested if you're gonna ask that question does it say pump gas on 93 or 85 that's what it should say and that's what you should yeah and there should if they have M1 you can smell it I mean you don't need to test it yeah but I mean if you gotta do that for that class to go out and win a thousand dollars which that's the reason they wouldn't do that stuff for a thousand dollars ours is 2500 and then people are doing that yeah crazy it needs to be 1500 tops for that class I gotta go straight out of small tire I'm serious well that's pretty crazy yeah I'm okay with that yeah and then how much wear and tear you're not doing on your car and then nobody can accuse me of building a series for me to win yeah running it and racing it's gotta be I don't I take the money car over and I let people race it in the 580 class ooh and that's different anyways with an index class yeah yeah it don't matter yeah that does not matter that's you know I had a good time racing the 55 obviously I had a good enough time that I came home within two days I ripped the whole car apart actually Aiden ripped the car apart yeah and we lost 200 something about 12 pounds 218 pounds something like that payouts in my series I built it for one reason that was just to bring racing back to that area yeah and keep bears out of the whole deal yeah I mean so my payouts are I mean they're good don't get me wrong 3500 2500 on top of all your entries and all that stuff but it's not 10,000 20,000 where all these big dogs come in there and kick everybody and all the locals around yeah but I got one at Sampson Air Force Base this year and that's like at an Air Force Base we are Sampson they let you on an airport on an airport those are cool races to watch on an airport it's a really cool place and it's kind of historical and we're creeping up on 50,000 to win on that one is that the one up in New York area yeah I've seen that that's a cool place it is very cool they've had races there before right yes okay yeah I've seen that what's the date on that race August 15th 16th it was the one thing of there's a big dip right at the 660 and people will jump at the very okay it's a different one then that is Brockport yes that's what it is yeah we don't do anything Sampson you go up there and slap some people around man to New York it's in between it's in between our holiday race and our NHRA brainer race so we'd have to we'd have to leave New York and go to Minnesota that'd be tough Sampson is just shy of 8,000 feet long and almost 200 foot wide wow damn that gives you a long time to run to get out of control to get real cowboy over there something down over here you just move over 30 foot yeah send them or you turn around and go like that way it doesn't matter it's because we start in the middle it's uh what else are we going to talk about before let's just talk about our next race before we get into what Dave what else Dave's doing besides racing so our next race like coming up like next week like cars not even put together for this race we don't even have a motor we do not have a motor engine motor whichever type of guy you are yeah so the first Midwest drag series it's their 10th year it's their 10th year anniversary of the Midwest drag racing series the first race kicks off at XRP which we won last year we did win that last year got a cool ass eagle trophy I'd like to win another one I would too that's our next race so we need a motor for blue or engine if you're that guy we do have one the fresh bullet that we just pulled out of it that proline went through which came out of the mpk car and now the mpk car has the og's motor in it so we do have one sitting back here and if I haven't heard anything I'm probably going to holler at proline tomorrow and say is it close from what I understand everybody right now they're held up on some parts and I don't know which part it is but hobby just got it's Tuesday and the races win next Friday Friday oh not this coming no no no we got plenty of time next Friday we can put that motor in there in half a day and that's what we may end up doing and then we can pick and then we can pick that motor up whenever we're coming through next week yeah you know it wouldn't be the worst thing we're going to NHRA and we would go right through Atlanta anyways I would assume to go to I think so Charlotte so yeah so next week is the first midwest drag racing pro-mortar race the following week we grab the nova the NHRA slash mpk nova known as the mpk nova yeah so we'll grab it back in black oh it is you got a black car I didn't pay attention it's back in black it's amazing looking so man I'll slick rig lay it down again so we're going to come home hey they always do it looks good so we'll come home grab the nova head over to Charlotte Z max the very first NHRA race we also have to take the merch trailer because you obviously can't sell out of a tent so we have to have a merch trailer at NHRA and then we also have to take the black trailer with your truck and the 55 in it because the weekend after that we have to go to our brainer the second outlaw syndicate race so this is the start of our nine week stretch of racing it's a long time nine weeks straight I know and now at least we used to just have one car to do it with now we got to switch cars I don't envy you all three different cars hmmm got a hustle why we can is there any og races in there? I don't know any og small tire races or no? maybe we're supposed to be doing the king of the south yeah that'd be cool it has no motor in it right now we have not tested it or anything they don't have a motor a transmission a good tune up I got down to the final four at the big racing Bowling Green last year yeah the MPK race yeah the cars just sitting if you need to borrow them he loves to keep his cars out and that loves driving other people's cars Dave takes me in and comes to get the money I said no I'm not driving your car I wouldn't let Shawn drive it what about me? you've been 420's that's what he would need to buy that thing too if something happened 420 alright it's that time oh yeah I was going to make a bet on who was going to take one first it's me so you guys got a lot of work I'm traveling part of it part of it one thing I am dreading though is trying to fix that trailer oh god it's still a thing the stacker that cylinder is leaking so I'm going to have to get it out somehow or I don't know figure it out because nobody works on them for now we're just going to get a 5 gallon bucket of hydraulic fluid at some point though it's got to let go they put a drink in it it's recycled it terrible man did you ever see the first time we had that promo at a race that deal messed up and we couldn't get it out god dang that right there is exactly what people expected us we did not disappoint we did not disappoint man yeah part of it so that's what we got going on what else are you doing besides tuning I run this series 6 race series this year what about your round to round asphalt midgets asphalt small cars is the proper winclature Phantom is a big round to round guy I'm not a big round to your own guy he just knows that you can't say midget I say it all the time that's fun how fast are they about 130 in a straight holy crap come in on 3 wheel like this and then hit the straight away and come out of the corner about 90 what motor is that the one with the boost motor or whatever like Honda and Ford Focus motors on alcohol fun man real fun so I watched him on the one we watched him qualify that's 25 minutes or 25 laps 25 laps so how many of those races you got this year 15 what? really he's talking about us traveling he probably flies in with his helmet though so are you really racing with Sammy Swindell like that's who you drive for no don't say that see we don't know he for real doesn't know and no reason I do is because I used to collect diecast as a kid so Sammy Swindell is like he is sprint car like John Forth yeah no I don't know anything about that type of racing you can go watch him all the time over in Minko yeah that's cool I watched Sammy growing up racing with him Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman and the other guys like cruising all the way they lease the cars from David for their grandkids and stuff to drive that's cool all the races and stuff it's asphalt no dirt no dirt oh you're hitting 130 on asphalt not on dirt okay I thought it was dirt but you're out there with 25 other dummies and I looped out once and I was just waiting for the other crash oh man that's a bad feeling that's a bad feeling that's a bad feeling yeah but they don't want to hit you yeah nobody wants to do that man 130 dude that's getting it yeah getting it you're on the ground too those things are so low I promise you I wouldn't be able to fit in I wouldn't I wonder what the wear is I know our maintenance stuff it's not tires we go there with a stack of Hoosiers and they're different sizes of course they got staggered and stuff so we go there with stacks of them make some laps and switch them you got different tires for the stickiness of the track the grip of the track you can actually spray the track that's right so your tires don't go away as fast on that track man that's fun do y'all cheat and treat them or anything no you ain't got time you switch them out so much and these things are like the maintenance on them they're just what kind of RPMs gotta be a lot for a four cylinder you're only allowed to run one ECU because I'm like can we cram FuelTech on this thing oh they have a spec ECU you can't put FuelTech on it at least at the big races in the screens I'm way too busy to yeah even in the drag cars you can see the dash what's going on on the FuelTech dash where you're going down the track there's no way you see a bunch of lights flashing you're not going to lift well Sean did it in your shop truck I've seen the video yeah yeah you're not going to lift you're not going to lift safety features off even at less even in the burnouts you'll ask me what it was at I never look down at the dash the whole time because I'm wondering where I'm going next your dad does just when he used to be turbo built in boost before the burnout yeah well you can tell me stuff you see on the dash screen sometimes how did you have time you can't see my phone when I'm showing you a video but you can see that when you're going 200 miles an hour well he can tell me a 10 minute story about a 3 second pass I can usually see what I run and then you see what the other person runs and everything when you're going to the 55 versus the nova you can see a lot more I'm saying I just look around like this in the 55 I always heard the term your fastest pass is going to seem like your slowest and it is 1 everything is just slow motion when I finally held it to the floor in the nova like everything that's the one pass out of 15 passes I made in that car that's the one pass I can tell you everything that happened everything slows down I don't know how much it slows down in a turbo pro month especially with the lock up I mean he called me after his first few passes with that pro mod and he said I am way behind he told me in person so I was like damn and we're screwed and I was like yes you are and I said Sean just be careful because when you're behind something the crash is already happening you have no idea you told me when you say you remember like pulling the shoot or something like that by the time you lifted you didn't even know the pass I can't imagine getting in something faster than this top fuel or something and then being behind that again Jimmy Taylor damn imagine how many passes Clay Millican has made in that top fuel drags everything else in his life seems slow yeah it's got to how else is he going? they raised 1000 foot still right? that's insane in a thousand feet they'll go 300 at an eighth mile I'm big into snowmobiles as everybody knows I love riding snowmobiles it's a good time and I went to Hay Days it's a big PRI and SEMA for snowmobiles and side by side and it was a good time and all the pro mods sleds were there and they were racing on grass and they were on the back of their sleds and I grabbed the helmet and the suit and go race this thing and I had no desire zero van if I need a parachute on my sled grass grass hurts but I think I'm going to do the HRA has a snow national or whatever snow outlaws or whatever they got a snowmobile in the city too so I think I'm going to run that not the snowmobiles at the track I remember he was telling me about this and I was like you're going to race a snowmobile and I was thinking I'm going to say what I was thinking because there's probably people watching this that race snowmobiles sorry and he was like no no no on the snow and I was like oh ok that's where snowmobiles should be it's a snowmobile it's like motorcycles should be on the street not with the racetrack it's a snowmobile one that's probably the thing really really fast they're pro-mines, billet motors, billet heads all that stuff he owns like three different things I have no desire to do that so the pro-mine class has got to be stock chassis and stock motors so I'm like ok we'll do that so I'll probably do that are they still two stroke or are they four stroke personally I have six sleds two stroke whenever I was still doing the four wheeler thing people were starting to get in they were getting the triple cylinder snowmobile motors and putting them in the banshee chassis and making stupid horsepower with them and those are two strokes two stroke, that's cool they're fast they are fast they are my turbo sled is two stroke twin cylinder turbo is it faster than your four stroke turbo they're not about 130 but it just gets there way way faster about more RPM and it's lighter, four strokes just I don't know what it is about a motor but four strokes are just heavy there's water through them and all that I bet your two strokes don't have water does it it does so the radiator is the tunnel that you sit on yeah, I'll change it yeah it's just weird two strokes break easier than four strokes I thought we had four stroke four wheeler older ones yes, because you could just stay in the throttle and you'll burn that two stroke up I just thought whenever we the piston doesn't cool until you lift right, on a two stroke so you can never just hold it wide open throttle otherwise it doesn't get the oil that it needs I mean your oil is mixed in your gas not even talking about like there's still oil in the water yeah, I get you yeah, because it's just it's so fast so literally they say that when you're wide open throttle you're like, everyone's like you know, and every time I ever had a two stroke I would never hold it wide open because I didn't want to have to rebuild it yeah it would burn everything up so we rode up in the old Ford's area and there's a lot of lake riding if you had something decent I mean it may be different, I don't know we did a lot of lake riding up there and it was my sled up there in an 81, 8200 like 5 miles across the lake just hold it 130, 130 that's a good time I never rode a snowmobile come on I haven't either rode lots of jet skis I'm not even fond of jet skis after I get Wiley to go it's too cold man, you're not cork I assure you, you will not be cold I bet I'd be cold I wear under armor, like a thin under armor underneath my suit yeah but then don't you sweat yeah, you get hot and then the sweat is in the cold and you get cold, no? it's cold up there I was never cold if you ride you don't get cold not me, I'd be cold I'd be cold because I'm not going to work on the bike like I would need to work if it breaks down I'm going to get off of it and then I'm going to walk and I'm going to be cold so Brandon crashed one of my slugs last month up there for me for you, yeah we just have to strap that thing and tow it up to the road let's go grab another one good time nope so you're asphalt midget racing you're tuning race cars and you snowmobile and you're not mechanic anymore you haven't had your shop for a while is that it? what else? anything? I just want to tune cars I love it I'm not ever be Steve Petty or Brandon no one will be I'll never learn what Steve Petty's forgotten you know what I mean? that dude's smart but also with the more you do it the more you do it the better you'll get I didn't do great at MPK part the last two years you won at MPK man not a lot of people can say that plain and simple I love Lewis to death but I worked beside him for years Steve Petty's too much Jamie Miller, Brandon Chase Driscoll I've learned a lot from him how long has Brandon been doing it? I don't know man we need to get him on here sometime I've seen pictures of him just started the year we got him was his first or second year but then now that I know who Brandon is I've seen pictures of him back with the old R2-B2 car when Leah was driving it back 2010 or 11 or whatever since he was a kid I didn't even know his dad did it I've not just seen him at World Series of Pro Mod looks just like him he's got to get out and do it that's the biggest thing right there experience that's what's anything really I just had a call last week went back from this guy called me with a 67 Chevelle Big Kibbutg and a Sniper Small tire he's like hey can you mess with carburetors? I love them I did mess with carburetors we got two trackers with him May, first part of May now I got to go to race with him oh, carburetors man they sound good seems like a lot of work not as much these days is what it used to be just make sure you got all your sensors turned on I seen they got the old Sonoma back out though where did I just see that Monza posted it they're getting it ready so I guess Jackie can race it here I haven't heard anything about Jackie in forever I haven't in what? the Sonoma wish them a happy birthday is it still Big Tire Willy Bar? I have no idea they still got a pro charger on it from what I seen it looked like a pro charger it would be a cool small tire car everything would be a cool small tire car everything if it looked like Cantus truck it would look good huh that's my agenda for the year racing and tuning riding sand dunes our paths don't really cross this year how long will I come down to this next one? before I go to New York the promo stuff is a good time it really is I really like to promote stuff honestly if I could race Keith's car and then see how the NHRA stuff goes this year just race two cars I'm pretty excited and I don't know if it's because it's NHRA I do want us to race NHRA stuff I didn't think us racing these cars would be what we did in NHRA but I'm excited to see what comes of that yeah something will come it's the big stage NHRA has always been the thing it ain't going anywhere it ain't going anywhere the amount of fans that show up at the tracks the last couple of years have been amazing they've really turned it around their stands are always full their viewership on TV has been ridiculous like that means drag racing is in a good spot for sure one thing I don't regret about the show yeah I don't regret anything about the show anybody that says street outlaws and the people involved with street outlaws didn't have something to do with the revival of drag racing is only in denial haters don't be a hater dude you can see it whether you agree with what the show was about it got people to the tracks it brought on a whole new fan base and it brought people back out that hadn't done it in years because it was so relatable and they wanted to do it again it was a good run, had fun met a lot of great people met a lot of tool bags friendships with companies and all that stuff made a lot of friends lost a lot of friends the only thing I'll say that I hated about it is it's burning me out on it once it turned into a job it was definitely a job it was definitely burning me out on racing that's why I don't it's so cool hearing the stories people that like tell you because you know, a lot of people come to me and say man I would watch your dad every day they watched it and then him and his dad built their car and it's here at the track there's so many stories like that man that's the cool part and the fact that it was, I mean they were kids in 2013 now they're doing it full on teaching their kids racing and you know, I didn't know I mean 2013 I was 7 a lot of sacrifices and everything don't get me wrong I don't get much no regerts making me hate racing I'm not saying that I'm not burned out on it that because yeah, I know it it was getting there but I've moved on to other type of racing you know, the whole pro mod thing and I think that's probably why I like it so much right now is because it's just different and back then you didn't I mean, I'll say you didn't like pro mod but like I mean the MPK it's still the same as MPK but just being in that car is different and everything about it, you know the showtimes, how competitive it is racing with people that we used to only watch on TV you know, or see on the internet it's it's a new challenge like at MPK at MPK we were one of the best I mean, I feel like we were like call that arrogant whatever it is, I feel like we were and now like we aren't like we're getting better we're getting better we're getting better but there's we still finished number 6 you understand what I'm saying it's a new set of challenges against guys that we've never raced with and all those guys that are out there especially in the winter series, all those guys that are out there they have the same drive we do every one of them is badass and they're the best in the world I enjoy sitting on my couch watching you all it's cool to hear from the people back home like you that congrats and badass and stuff like that they must have alignment guys man they're always on board they text me and hey man we're all cheering for you I always find an excuse to go visit them whenever we get back just for a little pick me up you know I normally text him before he gets done with me oh yeah well that's another reason for the asphalt midges that is a challenge hey going in circles is tough yeah, no, hey I can't do it that's why I talk a lot of shit about it I can't do it same thing, me and my dad have been at the house a lot whenever you were going at midnight at the no prep stuff with the Audi and you would text me and be like Dave's up and I already know I'm watching in my room yeah, that's a good time yeah, no, I watched you race while I'm sitting at a race in my totter yeah, so it's cool to watch what everybody else is doing you know and I mean I watch Doc and Monza and the races that they go to and whoever else has races I don't like the whole grudge racing thing but I still watch races that Swanson's at I don't like the no time thing but I'll watch Swanson's passes you used to like no time you used to like no time I've never watched like no time I wish the entire time we did MPK they'd have lit the boards I think my biggest problem with no time is there's seven fast cars and all they do is race each other and I sound like somebody who bitched about the show all they do is race each other it's the same 10 people I like it when they go out of town those are cool they brought that back 100% oh yeah, no it would be something else if it was possible I just don't know that you can do it anymore the problem is I mean you could do it no one's gonna watch it on cable you'd have to figure out some way to stream it because nobody has cable we have YouTube TV and I don't even know why we have that anymore there's a lot of good stuff on YouTube TV a lot of sports yeah sports nobody watches that shit I can watch everything that you document on ESPN on no, I can watch that on YouTube on the app but back to the the grudge racing stuff I've never been in a big grudge race but even at the small tracks they would be in between rounds and they'd go walk over you'd have both your people with you you'd negotiate a race even when we look it's like who's that black S10 with the AJ Dean you'd always see the two baddest small tire whatever, radio cars and they're going at it for this amount of money and there's the argument, the negotiation the back tire hit, all that kind of stuff it's cool no, it's an hour worth of bitching and complaining and saying that they need a crutch and all this because it's fun and then you don't know what they run exactly, that's the mystery of it there's no mystery if you're a racer you pretty much know what they're running they're like, we need this for this car and then they said they negotiated, Dave with Nick they negotiated this car and they said, alright how about this that's a 530 car, we can't run a 530 he said, how about this, we'll race heads up no one gets a leave hit, we'll race heads up off the tree but if Nick goes faster than a 530 you're out he can go as fast as he wants then Nick went out there and I'm not going to say the number obviously but he went way faster than a 530 and it's just someone gets hustled someone doesn't that's what I like I'll tell you what was fun and kind of reminded me of the old days was at the Alice in the Kid race the final round was Scott arguing with that black dude over trying to get a bet and everything, that was cool and he wasn't even with nobody he was just trying to get some money Scott went out there and won the whole thing and he was and we argued with him about this but it was a radio car racing a slick and you can ask anybody there well maybe not there that was a radio prep and those guys are like, this is a slick prep out here no it's not now it's a good track I'm not saying it was it wasn't south Georgia or anything it wasn't that but man it was pretty damn close and then you start going man I've got all the faith in the world on Scott but he's on a slick and a radio is way faster than a slick anyways so and then Scott he did, he had to shoot for it and I told them as soon as while I was collecting my money I get why you guys did that you had to shoot for something you smoked the tires out of the hole and Scott made a good pass if you are a mid radio car you gotta be able to run faster than Scott's ever been on that even with Ninjas even with, he had to run at least run 380s and we all know Scott wasn't going to go faster than 4.0 it just wasn't going to happen 3.98, you know what I mean? maybe you know what I'm saying, that's like he hits a lick and everything goes right yes, because I still don't think he's got the big Procharger on that car, first off I think he's got the regular Procharger the regular dash one and then we couldn't spray it wasn't single power at her I forgot that, okay yeah 4.0 I'm saying 4.0 man, I don't believe especially on that track he wasn't going to go a 3 something and that car on a radio should have went 3.89 at least is all I'm saying and then the dude's like y'all come up with how much money y'all want and we'll match that and we ended up coming up with 4 grand and we're like okay let's do it and then they, no man we're going to do 2.500 they want to do 2 grand and get me out of my 500 we did 2.500 but then also that's why the less better track worse, like no prep is because that guy could have beat Scott Taylor, you know? no, but I'm just saying that was in that guy's favor no, but look that's what I'm saying is like you could have a car and a 10,000 El Camino might beat you for sure, for sure but we ended up betting the driver came over and said look I don't know what they're all but I'm good for 2 grand he said I am good for 2 grand and so we said okay and then we ended up getting a $500 bet from somebody else so the guy that was driving that car he was in the class and he was in the finals of the small tire class his 530 car was he is a racer and he even said look man I'm telling you right now you bring any car on a slick to their race that they have down there and he goes I will bet you any amount of money any amount of money that you guys want to he said but and this was after the race after we went down and collected our money from him he said it doesn't matter what you bring we don't care what car it is if you're on a 28 and we can be on a radial oh ok no no no no no as long as you'll handicap yourself and let me have whatever so it's going to be a radial prep and he goes yes not this slick prep out here it will be a radial prep and I go so then we'll just bring a radial car and he goes no no no no no I will bet you any amount against a slick car against our radial car and I go oh I see what you're doing because radials are faster especially when it glued to the earth yes I would do that and the owner the people not the owner of the track but the people that we were dealing with literally said no you guys have no idea when they say that all they're going to do he said we ended up using two and a half drums is what they used that whole event he said they would have used five yeah he said that's all they do every time they get a chance man spray spray spray you would race the slick car against the radial for whatever oh yeah yeah because there's no other cars been faster than what Bill Lutz went 89 or something 91 oh I thought he went 89 supposedly somebody else went 80s couple weekends ago I mean okay so even if yeah yeah anyways even if you're against that car yeah the radial still should be hands down no big deal yeah no saying that's in south Georgia right that race that they were talking about going to because that's an outlet that was the north Florida they wanted us to come back to north Florida but I thought they also said because that one black dude was like they're talking about coming to the next you bring it that's what it is yeah they said well how can it be prepped however you guys want man talk to the track we don't care we don't care how it's prepped because it does not matter because I was watching the Texas 2k and they had the five or six whatever finals after each final they went out there and they did stuff to the track yeah after every single final yeah yeah it's all leading up to Brett running the fastest yeah whatever it is you don't talk about me long ago or Lutz look what you see he's putting that yeah yeah took Don's driving job right away from him it took her gym took her gym but I had heard that uh Jimmy Dell brought the money guy the money guy who's going to take care of the whole operation the other the other guy that he the other guy that he drive color oh his teammate or whatever the blue car is that who it is I don't know I just heard he brought the money guy who's going to take care of both of Lutz's cars it's probably who owns that team he drives for he's colored they got the they got the red I don't know man this could be total bullshit that's just what I heard from somebody I'm not going to say who I heard it from I'm too close how come Dave why would it not be I don't know why why would you say that the blowers are off of them cars a lot a lot not humanly taken off they get on stuff a lot he's not wrong he's been hanging around us too long there's a lot of those small-time cars with the big blowers that get blown off a lot expensive to take care of them two cars I wonder so what usually causes them to come off like that I wish it happened every pass it sounds cool oh it sounds cool from the pits from the pits like you could hear it a lot at winter series especially whatever the weather gets really cool out you know nothing about it and you can hear it sitting on the track it just sounds good are they spinning those blowers harder on a small car? I did it like three or four times at the last race obviously you got to spin it more to get the bigger tire going right I mean Ryan's at 128 over I'm sure he's at 128 over I don't want to speak for him you know Ryan took that car and put it on a big tire you have to spin that blower more right 128 is it you can't go that's it but would he go slower with the big tires than with the small tires ready to launch your business? get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand marketing tools that get your products out there integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale ups online in person and on the go Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup no slower with what? I'm trying to think of the spinning versus the tire thing like if he took that same 128 over whatever and put on a big tire car with with the bars it go faster Ryan with 70s or 60s like they don't pull the tires off the less rotating weight I thought would make it go faster no you can't go as quick early you can't get in the tire before you push the car for example you'll go 920 with the red car on big tires or quicker where he's only going 1.0 or whatever on the small tire yeah doesn't matter how much glue there's a lot of those cars that blow off you'll spin that little tire before you push the car they all lost a blower at the last race I lost a couple of both cars but you just bolt them back on after you fix the pistons yeah if you put valves in it valves and pistons and all that they lose the pro charger and you're not putting that one back so what does it just break the bolts? the studs like what Aiden's has out here oh they're aluminum? they should get better read oh see I didn't know that they're aluminum so anytime you have a big burst panel is all that blower is it's got to be a better way and it just pew magic steel ones in there so is that what that aluminum stud we got is for do they actually send us that aluminum stud? no no every one of those Aiden's blowers aluminum are they really? yeah the nuts are aluminum too like you said if it had was it steel I took them out really? instead of the blower coming out it'll push up they're up a lot more than what they send once you're sending you want more give on aluminum like aluminum rods and pistons and all that they won't break everything which as a steel whatever rod that's what you used to tell me well everybody used to say what do you want to hit your crank with a steel hammer or an aluminum hammer neither I don't want to hit it with either I just want everything to work 20 big aluminum that's all I'm saying yeah there's so much stuff that are pretty rubbish did we talk about whenever the full crank came out of that no because that just happened oh yeah that's pretty crazy I have broke a ton of stuff there's not one single broken rod in that motor it was rolling pretty good it was rolling because everything else gave out yeah it blew the top of the block off it literally threw the crank out the bottom and it cranked the bottom and the crank took the pistons and everything with it it was pretty crazy did it stay in the car or did it go out on the track it didn't go on the track because the cross member that's the steering and all that stuff I used to drink it never in my freaking life have I seen anything destruction like I have split a lot of forward blocks they just split you know pull the intake off and he's saying what motor was that it was an LS unbelievable unbelievable they could have been putting that much power to it out there I would do that though I mean obviously it was broke before hand and it finally just gave whatever it was gave yeah it's pretty unbelievable it looked like it was on a good lick yeah it did he was making one and then all of a sudden that was the first one wasn't it I think I've seen Eric Bang share it so maybe he had something to do with that car I don't know it may just been shared I see the picture of this sitting on the grass next to their trailer and it's just it's all there it's so wild because it didn't break one piston right no it didn't break one single rod it is amazing good job whoever did that I mean something came out and that crank just pulled the rest of it do do do do do do do I bet the front one broke first and then after that once it gets a little bit of you know just a little bit of leverage on it do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do or something. It's impressive man. It's mind-blowing. It's mind-blowing. The flex weights on it, the crank is on the, I mean not the crank, I meant the balancer everything on it. Like, yeah. Insane. Yeah, no, it's impressive. Very, very impressive. I wonder what the track looked like after that. Oh dude, it looked. There was oil everywhere. You know, watch the video. I need to watch the video. You can see, I can't even watch the video yet. I'll watch the video yet. All down it. Man. There was oil all over the whole car. So on that deal, do they, does all wheel drive take one lane the whole time? No, no. Like, there's lane choice. They flip, yeah. But now I want, I really want to know what. Because y'all used to agree at the beginning of the night, we're gonna take this side or y'all gonna take that side, whatever. Or y'all would say coin flip. Remember that? We've done it before. Yeah. But then if one of your boys owns your lane down. Yeah. Yeah, but it's better than not knowing what moose juice they're pouring out. Homemade sprayer. Yeah. Was that a joke about the oil that got poured down? Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that. Yeah. Because I think it was, it was either the chief or boosted someone yelled out who poured this down because it was oil, right? Or grease. It was Jerry Chambers. And that was that gateway, right? Yeah. Yeah. Was diesel or something. I think it was, it smelled like we're in fluid. No, he yelled. Someone got the wrong bottle. Yeah. Some sort of gear oil. Terrible. Somebody put down a dead burnout and then made a pass. But I really want to know what they're going to change for the next one. Like, because it was so close. I want to, the next what? The next all wheel drive rule. Oh man, you, what they need to change is the surface because you could literally see it's over from here on out. The all wheel drives won't catch back up. Yeah. No, it was still, it was still not on that surface. They're going to have to find a shittier surface. You could literally see by the 60 foot that Mustang had a car on those all wheel drive trucks. Yeah. After that, those all wheel drive trucks ain't catching them, except for crazy horse. That thing has stupid model. They said he went like 160 plus or something. He was behind the 60 foot to a rear wheel drive car and then came around on the big end. Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. It makes the power. It makes the power. But I'm one. He also said he had 80 something pounds of boost and he was spraying all the nitrous. He's told how many pounds he uses on a pass and it was four pounds on a pass. That's a lot of nitrous. Something like that. Eight. Eight. It was an eight. Is that what he said? Okay. Because I was thinking he had a 10 pound bottle in there and he said that he used eight. Oh my God. It was eight. Eight pounds. It wasn't four. It was eight. Eight. Because I was thinking that there was only like a pound left in the bottle and maybe he had a five pound bottle, but no, he had a 10 pound bottle. Man. But he's spraying a lot of nitrous to that. But obviously anything could have happened. Like I'm just, I'm saying like with that surface, the like that will dynamite could have shot for it and spun and the world all the drives we want to get. Yeah, no, he could have. I'm just, yeah. But think about eventually the more passes they're going to get at it on that surface. They went over and they talked to him and they said after his testing, Hey, what did you change? I didn't really change anything. They just gave me some service. Oh, Jared, the guy who was, he didn't need to change anything, man. You talked to everybody else. Well, we changed the four link. We, uh, we did this. We put some angle in our wing. Yeah. Yeah. And he went out there and said, no, I didn't really change anything. Make some pretty good passes yesterday. Didn't really change nothing. Well, he backside races all the time, I guess. Yeah. So they said he burnt up a bunch of coils right before the pass. Okay. And he didn't go it. Well, he took off and was out on the dude and then all of a sudden just the car laid over. Yeah. And I thought he told me he went out first round that I watched it. No, he went out second round, first round. Yeah. And he made a good lick. He did. Yeah. So he, he said someone was asking if anybody went for us on his post and he said, we had the power to do it. Unfortunately, we lost three or four coils before the next pass and I didn't really think that he would have been all right, but unfortunately man, he runs into a lot of problems. He does. And it's, it sucks. I don't have anything against Ryan. I like he's smart and he's fast. I got zero problems with him, but man, he switches stuff up a lot. I know. It's tough. I mean, looking out fast, that's one of the good things about beater bomb. He's literally had the same combination forever, but now I guess he's been swapping in a big block versus LS. Yeah. But well, now he's just, man, he's done both of them forever. He hasn't changed anything on the car. Well, he has now. It's too chassis now. Yeah. Because he's, Casey Maxx has gone between big block and LS, right? Big block turbo. Yeah. That's the thing. L S. Where are you going? Compressed air, big block. He's probably not compressed air LS too, right? Yeah. That's what he's got right now. That's what he's got right now. Yeah. That's why he said he wasn't coming to race our stuff because he couldn't make the power to run with those guys at this point. So when I went to the twins, right? I mean, yeah, but he's he's pressed air. That was grass drags. And there was a guy there. Compressed air. I'm a Yeah. I've heard about that. Dude, I went into his trailer and I'm talking to him. Like, this is frigging amazing. Blah, blah, blah. And he goes, yeah, Ryan's been helping me a lot. And I go, Hey, Mitchell. He's like, yeah. And I was like, smart guy to be helping you, man. Yeah. And this guy went out there and dominated these other products. He is very smart, you know, but I sometimes I think that he's so smart that it gets him into trouble. So yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, at one point, I think he had a yank, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't know if he entirely runs his whole program or if he's got somebody that bounces things off of you would think that guy that's always with him. Yeah. He seems like a really good crew guy. Yeah, I like that dude too. That dude seems very, very intelligent also. So I would assume that Have you ever talked to Ryan? No, I haven't. I have. Ryan's smart. Yeah. Yeah, no, there's you can tell by watching his videos and stuff that he's smart. I keep up with him and I watch his videos. I don't, I wouldn't say that we're friends. I wouldn't say that we're buddies. Yeah. You know what I mean? But he's very smart. I watch what he does, you know, and, and honestly, man, I, I'd like to race with him, you know, but My first night I went to, it was first time going to yellow belly and I was really excited. All the big cars were there. I met Billy and Bill and all them for the first time. Casey Maxx was there. I saw the stewed all them and it sucks because he was going into finals. So my, so my final, some like that finals and his car is perfectly fine. Just sitting there ready to go for next round and his compressor breaks on his trailer. So he's got no power. Like it's just like it sucks whenever something besides your actual car, which is the only thing you need to make the pass is perfect, but some external breaks because he's got that giant compressor on the front of his trailer and it just wasn't working. Like that's the only thing keeping him from him. And I asked a couple of times. Yeah, I think he's on the because I was over there not working. The car is fine sitting there. He's working on the compressor on his trailer. Looking air compressed. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have like a $10,000 compressor for those deals. It was huge. And what, what size of those bottles he's running in there? He's got two of them. I don't know if scuba takes. Yeah. Something like that. They're carbon fiber, huge, like 30 pounds. Yeah. I know Tina's been having great luck doing that. Yeah. I haven't been doing that for a while. I have talked to the two older gentlemen that own that company. Yep. And they just, you'll never make the 3000 plus horsepower you need to. That's, and that's, that's the biggest problem. Like people have asked me, why would you do that with a big tire because you can't, you can't, because it's great for what they're using or what they're doing. What's that? Is that what Tina's going for? Fiddy's something like that with her truck? I don't know. Consistent. It don't break. I mean, right in threes, right Mitchell or four, four O's or threes for sure. I thought he posted, I thought he posted, he went four O's the last old driver, old driver. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think he's been threes yet. I don't know. That's what it was. I don't think he's not. I know he's the quickest out there with it. Done good with it for sure. For sure. Yep. Yep. What else? Anything? You think of anything else? I think we talked about everything we got coming up. What, what daddy Dave got going on? We touched on the 55. Did we touch on the 55 being on methanol now? No. He said he broke it down. He said he lost 200 pounds on it. We lost a couple hundred pounds on it. Swap it. So obviously swapping from E85 to methanol, we could take the intercooler off, which will take not just the intercooler, but the one inch lines that ran all the way from the trunk up to the intake. And then the seven gallons of water in the trunk is gone. The air conditioner, all that stuff is gone. Condenser, compressor, the 60 pounds of exhaust. The 60 pounds of exhaust, the one that's under the intake, you got to have a certain intake for it. But no, I am not. Why you need it? I don't know. This one. My Monte Carlo has got an air to air on it, but it's a Monte Carlo SS and it don't get no air like it is. What intake's on it? Holly. Oh. No, we have Texas speed. Texas speed. It only fits the Texas speed intake. That Titan or whatever it is, right? Yeah. So I thought about putting one of those on. However, I will have one soon that will fit your car. Is it white? It is white. I know. Maybe. I'd like to try one. Yeah. Just because the air to air does nothing for my car. Zero. Yeah, these work good. I heard that too. Yeah, no, they work good, but I never turned the air conditioner on to that car. It's not a big deal. Like I have everything if I ever want to put it back on, but then that's not even in the hood on that car. What did we wait? 36 pounds? 36 pounds. 36 pounds. Most of them are. So they're making me another one. And now that I took that intercooler off, I don't even have to cut a hole in the hood. Real, real deal flat hood. I ordered a stock flat hood for it that is going to be, I told them I want it as light as possible, pin on because mine's dumb heavy, but I still wanted it to be, you know, thick enough that I could put the bird on the hood. It's got to have the bird. Can we find like a fiberglass bird? I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can. You would think somebody would have made, remade one of those. Man, I've got three D printed stuff. Dude, hey, that's 3D printing stuff. Out of control. I'm going to buy me one one of these days. Yeah, I mean, if somebody could do that, then any 3D printers out there, can you print the bird for a 55 Chevy Huller at us? Other than that, someone just did like a, it was engine parts. They made a carbon or a not carbon 3D printed something like that. It was, yeah, they make a lot of cool stuff. Chris Bills got them. Christmas. I was just in the shop yesterday. Yes. And this man has 3D printers everywhere. Like that's what he does. He's an engineer. He's got 3D printers. Well, he owns a newer body Thunderbirds. He loves Thunderbirds. This thing's a V8 Thunderbird and they're going to do rear mount turbos on it. So this man literally 3D printed mockup turbos. This thing looks legit branded like it looks real. Wheelers doing all the work, but it's, it's not like hanging back there rear mounts laying in a bag. Yeah, but it's Chris Bell upwards of 10, 15 hours to print those, right? Oh yeah. Chris Bell made mockup turbos for that boat. They did. They're, they're 3D printing aluminum parts now, like weldable aluminum parts. So I'm having my trophies for my series. They're 3D printed. That's going to be pretty cool. It's crazy. So, so now you and the 55 match, you're both on meth. We are. Oh yeah. What is that? Jesus guys, come on. That's the only way somebody can lose weight. Can't. It wears me out. So, dude, it's bad. Sean, I didn't make it. It was on VP's post. Yeah. Okay. Well, so, so the comments were just out of control. Just totally out of pocket, man. Cancer and dying or he's on meth. That was the two most comments. But when I'm fat, it's lose some weight. Fat ass, your car would be faster. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, there's no middle of the mall guys. Like everybody knows. It turned off the comments. I can't even go reading the comments. Oh really? Yeah. Is that on Instagram? No, it's Facebook. Okay. It's on their Instagram also. On Instagram, you can say whatever you want in the comments. Yeah. So, so VP made a post and we made an April Fools deal and it's with the, the, the lawnmowers acting like we're going to go lawnmower racing. Guys, that was the April Fools joke. It took it down. There was 170 comments of people saying that I'm on meth. Oh my God. He looks terrible. Is he dying? You know? Now, do I agree with you all? Yeah. I've told Sean personally, I don't think he looked good like this, but the man's not on meth. Jesus. I, I've been on meth before guys. And I didn't lose weight. Okay. So, I've said it before. Allegedly. The worst drug I've ever been on is food. So, when we got an opportunity to race this pro mall, I don't want to read some of the comments. He's got them right here. Oh, so there's, I lost weight on purpose guys. Like, do, do I like where I'm at right now? Absolutely not, man. I'd like to gain about 20 pounds back and call it good. But, yeah. But 20 pounds is 20 pounds. I need to hang out with you. I know you're gaining 20 pounds. I need to, and I'm, Davey told that ice cream. So do I. I bet they're tight. If I'm over 200, I'm uncomfortable in that thing. So that's why I'm down to one meal a day and I'm, you know, I'm down below 200 now. So that season starts next month and I need to, yeah, I need to get down to like 190, 185. I mean, it's one of them things that I need to come hang out with you. If you see me in person, I've been the same as what I am right now guys for a year. So it's not like I have actually longer than a year. I have not lost any more weight. I am 220 every morning. I may have been 219 this morning, but 220 every morning is what I am. And I have been for since I got the pro mod. Yeah. You look, he got in the pro mod. It was toy. Yeah, it was. It was tight enough that I was like, I'm not going to be able to race this car. Yeah. And I said, you're racing this car. Yeah. So I lost weight. So yeah. I mean, you do what you gotta do to cheeseburger and man, you look sick. Harry R. Gaster, it says you look like a crackhead, crack spelled with a K. Oh yeah. That's an educated guy What's wrong with him? Is it the big seed or drugs or o o o zimp? Oh yeah. Everybody says it was zimpic too. Yeah. What are you on Instagram? Facebook. Okay. Crack is a hell of a drug. That's all that one. Don't do drugs kids. That is funny though. Yeah. But I'll tell you what it is. We don't get those comments on our page because people keep up with us and they've seen me for over a year now. Yeah. And these people that are on VP stuff probably haven't seen me since the show left. Yep. And yeah, I know I'm 80 pounds down from there. But if you go on Instagram and you scroll all the way down, there's a feature on Instagram that deletes the hidden comments. Those are the I just got to those and those are the guys I haven't seen those. Oh my God. Those are the good ones. You're not in a drug. You're not in a one. Is he buying meth from JJ DeBoss? I didn't read that. Get off the ozimpic. You look terrible. This dude is on a Mahoro or smoking crack. Majaro. So a lot of people were upset because I got a sleeveless shirt on and then I wore that beanie. Yeah. They're so upset about that. They're like, isn't it hot out? How are you wearing that beanie? I put that beanie on for the camera. It's a VP We're making a commercial for VP. I made a video for VP and it was the only hat that I had that said VP on it. I literally walked out and told Fandom I said, bro, this is this beanie is the only hat that I got. And it wasn't. It's not like it's hotter than 75. Yeah. It was not probably cold. Anyway, he's thin now. It gets cold. So it's funny. The guys are the people that think you're this big Hollywood billionaire and you've got people that dress you and tell you what to say and all this stuff like this guy. He says, I would fire your wardrobe personnel or if it's you bit slap yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Just like our closets are black. Yeah. Okay. So have I let money and fame go to my head or do I still dress like a piece of shit? Which one is it, man? You know what I mean? Because it can't be everything. It can't be. He forgot where he came from. My God, look how he's dressed. Oh, so am I wearing a suit and tire? Am I wearing the same shit that I wore 20 years ago? 30 years ago. Wearing the same stuff probably got the same underwear on it. Probably. This guy's I would if I would have had, you know, got so skinny and had to get medium. I just don't wear underwear. So you wear medium underwear. No, I do not. I tried whenever I tried to suck my balls up. Yeah. I stopped from the from the mobile vasectomy vasectomy from the sniff trip. Yeah. And the mediums are just there. I can fit them. I can wear them. But you bend over and it would, you know what I mean? Because they go up my butt and then they pull on my sack. It was not good. The only comment not about weight on the hidden comments is this last one says nice light blue nail polish on your big toe and then you put in full caps gay. There's a guy on there saying you want to fight me. Like he's mad enough that he wants to fight me. Let's do streetbeats. Really? No, that guy would probably beat me up. I'm pretty frail. Like on the Facebook? Yeah. No, it's on that. It's on that post. The same dude that said that I was gay a whole bunch on there. It's like every hour this psychopath that went on there said he was gay. Yeah. Then I think he said, would you fight you want to fight me or something? Yeah. I literally said nothing to this dude. This guy's saying stuff into my world now. Watch out. He said AIDS. AIDS. Common sense is lack of zimpik or AIDS. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, no, it's unbelievable. AIDS is a pretty funny one. It is. It is because that like that's still a thing. Yeah. Put your dope down. It's unbelievable. Insane. I wish I could remember. I remember the guy that was like he was on every post. He's on every post a bunch. It's Scott, isn't it? Scott who? Boyer. Let me see. I think that's him. Yeah. Ozympic Nova. I saw one girl say who said, I guess it was ozympics for everybody or something and her fat ass needed it. I'm telling you. Like, I went to her. She should all her. Like if you're fat and you're saying that I'm on ozympic or that I'm on drugs, you know, hey, holler at me. I'll tell you how I lost weight. You know? It didn't eat. Promise it wasn't drugs. Any amount of weight I ever lost on drugs I made up for in the few days afterwards. You know, in the come down. Yeah. Man. I'm looking for that guy. Put on 20 pounds. Yeah. Man. I do eat a lot of ice cream though. Food is good. Yes, it was. So good. What is the trash can or whatever? Yeah. That's good. It's just handy. He's just walking in the back door and there's an ice cream machine right there. Oh, man, I shouldn't. Yeah. Fill up a large cup. Yeah. Yeah. Man, no, that post got wild. I bet VP wasn't ready for that. No, guaranteed. Yeah. They'll probably rethink that whole deal. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Like they did several of those videos and obviously that was the. Yeah. Yeah. But if you gained it back, the con was a switch. Oh, yeah. No, if I gained it back, looks like he got off the drugs. Yeah. Yeah. Now your car's going to be slow. Yeah. And the next thing that I bought a chief to when he was like 300 pounds. Yeah. But he got off the drugs. I don't know. You spend all that money on all that lightweight stuff for your car when you could just not eat fatty. Yeah. That's what everybody used to say. You haven't heard that in a while. Now it's just drugs or AIDS or AIDS or sick. Are you sick? I need to get skinny before getting that measure. You need to get skinny. Well, my ideal goal was to lose the fat and then get back in the gym, which we haven't done in eight years. Yeah. I missed it again this morning. Yeah. Yeah. It's eight years in a row. Something like that. Do you really? So now you go to the gym. So now I honestly would like to lift and you know, nothing dumb, just lift a little bit because I do feel weaker and there's I'm not stupid. I know on not eating is not great on you, you know, and I know that I lost a lot of muscle mass. So I'm not dumb. My problem with going to the gym is I only like to lift heavy. And when I lift heavy, I just want to eat, man. That's just all I want to do. I had cardio is dumb. I hate cardio. You need to go to the gym with Jake. What? You need to go to the gym with Jake. Yeah. With his little pencil legs. Whatever. Hey, he's the Huffer Havillers good. Yeah. And it's all covered in tattoos now. He got his head in the back of his head. I showed you this morning. And then he had something on the back of his and he's wearing his hat. I don't know how he's wearing a hat after that. So he's had something in the back of his mind for a while. Just the treadmill is amazing. 25 minutes. Oh, oh, it sounds terrible. I'd rather like running. You run. Yeah. I'd rather do this though, man. Yeah, you can do the same thing. A bicycle or an Olympic. Olympic. What is it? What do they call or six elliptic? Elliptic. Yeah, but deadlifts. Oh, yeah. Elliptical. Elliptical. Yes. He didn't say sex with a person. Yeah. All right, I'm done. How long has it been? Oh, I don't know. We've cut the video three times, but this one is on 58 minutes. Nice. It's gonna be a good one. It's probably gonna be the longest podcast. Nice. People like them. Yeah, people like them. So, okay, we'll call that good. Episode 10. Thanks guys for sticking around with us. Check it out. Obviously, you're either watching this on YouTube or Spotify. Spotify helps us out the most right now, but we'll take your view anywhere we can get it. Dave, thanks for coming and hanging out with us for a couple hours. Finally having me over. BFF. Man, I tell you all the time. Yeah, you come over whenever you want. I tell you all the time. You come over every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. I tell you all the time. Dave come over. He was supposed to come over last week. I thought he was going to. Yeah, he never did. Didn't do it. Sorry. I know he's like 20 miles from here. Yeah. It's not even 20 miles. It's like 20 minutes. And that's if you go back roads. Yeah. Did you come up 152 or did you take the back? You can come up 152. They just yell at you. They look at you. Some sort of way. It's from the point. Yeah. We were in the mini-truck last time and he yelled at us. Yeah. I say, you don't know where we're going. You don't know where we've been. I come from my house. There's no house on this mile. I came from my buddy's house. There's no house on this mile section. I go, you don't know where I'm going or where I've been. Yeah. Oh, you told him that? Yeah. Good job. Thanks for saving the world. You're a construction person. You've got to deal with some traffic. Yeah. It's part of it. Yeah. Should I be on this road? I saw the road closed sign. Yep. Just like the people who's in front of me saw it. I'm sure there's a thousand people going through there. Oh, there's no doubt about it. I don't take two years to finish this road. Yep. God, daddy. Show him your text message. I can see it from here. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. I can read out that whole number. 912. Turn the phone back. Well, the number. Don't read the number. Come on back. But you did just show that buddy, though. I leaked your credit card. So, I'm getting there. I was trying to crimp some really small wires last night underneath the fire dog. Oh, yeah. And I'll have glasses. I'm not going to live in denial. It's not worth having a headache and sharing it like that. No, just remember this day and every day you pick on me. Oh, no. I know it's coming. I'm not in denial. Yeah, yeah. I'm still going to make fun of you. Because you're not there yet. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I used to make fun of Lutz all the time. And he's like, yeah, I'm like, yeah. Him and Chris Bell and everybody. I'm at the house around all day. I'm like the least amount of person that's ever in denial. Yeah. Like I'm the person that I, yeah, no, I'm old, man. Of course I'm going to bed. You know, Ryan tries to give me shit all the time. I see him. He does this. I'm like, man, just put some glasses on. He's at dinner with his phone. He's gave it up now. He's wearing glasses. But he's still, he's still always like, man, the old folks' homes ready to eat lunch at four o'clock. Aren't you? I'm like, yeah, that's right, man. Yeah, man, where are we going? Next week it might be 3.30, you know, whatever. You know, 53. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I look, I'm in bed by nine. I'm not saying I'm asleep at nine, but I'm definitely getting comfortable and not, you know, if I'm out of the shop. Yeah. I was dying on the Opala wheelers in Tulsa, right? It was one o'clock this morning when I was coming down the turnpike. And I'm like, yeah, man, what happened? Like that was whenever we were usually on the way to a race. Yeah. I'm on the fall sleep. Yeah. Yeah. No, I embrace being old. I'm okay with it. Because I never thought I'd get here, you know, to the old stage. Here I am. I am not embracing being blind. That sucks. Yeah. I hate glasses. Do you drive with those? I wear them pretty much all the time now. I take them off every once in a while, but and I can still read my text messages. Not great though. Like I'm right here. Right there. Sean is Aaron feeling better? Yeah, because you're so far away. I'm, I'm bet like out here is fine. It's like, but under that car, like it was right here. And I like, you got to search for the little connector. Yeah. No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go get some for whenever I'm doing that stuff. Because it's not worth straining having a head equator. It's just not worth it. Oh, yeah. Probably get some lacoste or something. You know, I like nice shit. Yep. All right, guys. Episode 10. Appreciate you watching Dave. Thanks for being here. Check out our schedule. We did just put it out. It is actually right now. Like all the dates are correct. We are going to add some. So check that out. Come see us in person and we'll see you on the next podcast.