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"Wicked" director Jon M. Chu talks Elphaba-branded Swiffers and we preview "Melania"

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Jan 31, 20264 months ago
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Summary

This Wait Wait episode features director Jon M. Chu discussing the Wicked film adaptations and their extensive merchandise tie-ins, while the panel discusses news stories ranging from the Milan Winter Olympics to the Melania Trump documentary, invasive possums in New Zealand, and beluga whale mating behaviors.

Insights
  • Major film franchises are expanding merchandise strategies beyond traditional tie-ins into unexpected household product categories (Swiffers, mac and cheese cups, Stanley cups)
  • Documentary marketing and premiere strategies can significantly impact perception, with high-profile attendees and crew anonymity raising questions about project reception
  • Invasive species management is increasingly relying on behavioral psychology and consumer product preferences rather than traditional pest control methods
  • Winter weather phenomena like frost cracks demonstrate how climate events create unexpected viral content opportunities through social media documentation
Trends
Cross-category merchandise licensing expanding into utilitarian household products for major film releasesDocumentary premiere strategies involving high-profile attendees despite mixed crew receptionBehavioral science applications in invasive species management using consumer psychologyViral documentation of natural phenomena through social media during extreme weather eventsCelebrity and executive attendance at political documentary premieres as cultural commentaryWicked franchise dominance in musical theater film adaptations and merchandisingAI-generated advertising content requiring human oversight for factual accuracySelf-driving vehicle companies managing liability through human error attributionIndustrial formula secrecy as competitive advantage in mature product categoriesAirline lounge liability exposure from self-service food service stations
Topics
Film Merchandising StrategyWinter Olympics InfrastructureDocumentary Marketing and ReceptionInvasive Species ManagementExtreme Weather PhenomenaMusical Theater Film AdaptationsSelf-Driving Vehicle SafetyIndustrial Trade SecretsConsumer Loyalty ProgramsPolitical Documentary PremieresAirline Liability ManagementAI-Generated AdvertisingWildlife Behavioral ScienceProduct Licensing ExpansionViral Content Creation
Companies
Wicked (Film Franchise)
Director Jon M. Chu discusses the Wicked film adaptations and extensive merchandise partnerships including Swiffers, ...
Target
Mentioned as retail location where Wicked-branded Swiffer products are sold in dedicated Elphaba and Glinda sections
Waymo
Self-driving car company that crashed into multiple parked vehicles in Los Angeles and attributed incident to human d...
Tesla
Electric car manufacturer announced discontinuation of two vehicle models citing declining sales
Air Canada
Airline sued for $5,000 by passenger who suffered burns from self-serve oatmeal in airport lounge
WD-40
Industrial lubricant with secret formula locked in bank vault, seen by only handful of people over 70 years
Dunkin' Donuts
Loyalty program changed rules causing customer to lose 93,000 accumulated rewards points intended as inheritance
New Zealand Department of Conservation
Used Oreo cookies to successfully trap invasive possum species, catching 15 in three weeks versus one in two weeks prior
Federal Reserve
Held interest rates steady in recent policy decision
Cadillac
Became second American carmaker to have Formula One racing team
People
Jon M. Chu
Director of Wicked film adaptations; discussed childhood in restaurant business, tap dance background, and film merch...
Stephen Schwartz
Composer of Wicked musical; Jon M. Chu watched his work at San Francisco premiere before Broadway debut
Justin Bieber
Subject of two concert films directed by Jon M. Chu featuring elaborate stage entrance with wings
Ilya Malinin
Four-time world champion figure skater competing in Winter Olympics; known for performing seven quadruple jumps in si...
Melania Trump
Subject of $75 million documentary that premiered Friday; film crew members requested anonymity in credits
Mike Tyson
Attended Melania Trump documentary premiere party at White House
Tim Cook
Apple CEO attended Melania Trump documentary premiere party at White House
Quotes
"It's a house of stories. Everyone's telling stories to my dad. My dad's telling stories to them about me."
Jon M. Chudiscussing childhood restaurant experience
"I haven't lived it down since then. I actually still feel very guilty about that."
Jon M. Chudiscussing tap dance performance with sister
"The Swiffer is pretty cool when you go to Target and you see the Elphaba and Galinda sections and they're there. I mean, it's not a broomstick, but it's close enough."
Jon M. Chudiscussing Wicked merchandise
"It was as liberating as a spa day. He called it, quote, my diarrhea vacation."
Bill Curtisdiscussing colonoscopy preparation experience from New York Times article
"So tempting that it triggers reward-seeking behavior to override caution."
Peter Sagaldiscussing Oreo effectiveness in trapping invasive possums
Full Transcript
This message comes from STARS. The global phenomenon Outlander returns. After a journey that has spanned time and continents, Claire and Jamie's story comes to an unforgettable end. Don't miss the final season of Outlander. Watch now, only on STARS. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. It's cold out there, but don't worry, I'm still hot. I'm Bill Curtis, and here is your host at the Studebaker Theater at the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Seibel. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. Thanks for being with us. We have a fine show for you today. Later on, we're going to be talking to John M. Chu, the director of Wicked and the latest Wicked for Good. So finally, we have a guest who has no basis to object when I burst out into song. Well, we want to hear your tune, so give us a call to play our games. The number is 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. It's time to welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hey, Peter, this is Ken Carlson from Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, right next to Gettysburg. All right, next to Gettysburg. Okay, and what do you do there? I teach in middle school. I teach sixth, seventh, and eighth graders about careers. Do you really? I have to ask, what careers are middle school kids these days most interested in? Well, strangely, a lot are really interested in being physical therapists, video gamers, or NFL players. In that order, I assume, right? Well, Ken, welcome to the show. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First up, she's a comedian and host of Ted's new democracy series, The Great Experiment, on TED.com. It's Nagin Farsad. Hello. Hi, Nagin. How are you doing? I'm good. Next, an actor and writer who could be seen in the stand-up show We Have Fun at Young Ethels in Brooklyn on February 4th and in the show Uptown Showdown at Symphony Space on February 5th. It's Peter Gross. Hey there. Hey, Peter. And finally, making her debut on our panel, she's a writer and the brains behind Depth of Wikipedia, whose show Depth of Wikipedia Live is on tour now with tickets at depthsofwiki.com. It's Annie Rauerdot. Hi. So, Ken, great to talk to you. Thanks for calling. you're going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, just that, you will win our prize any voice from our show you might choose for your voicemail. Are you ready to do this? I'm ready. Let's do it then. Here's your first quote. It's Milan. It's your vibe. That's the official motto of what big event kicking off on Friday? Oh, the Winter Olympics. The Winter Olympics, yes, it's coming. They're here. With just days to go before the opening ceremonies, Milan is still racing to finish some of the venues. The ice hockey rink has a hole in it. The ski lift gondola that takes people to the top of the mountain still isn't done. And I know when I get on a gondola going up a mountain, my first thought is, I hope the contractors rush to get this done on the top. Is it not done like it doesn't get to the top of the mountain? Or is it like, oh, we shouldn't have started at the top and the bottom and met in the middle? and it doesn't, there's like a big gap. Classic error, yeah. How did they not plan better to have this done in time? This is the country that literally invented the phrase about not building stuff in one day. What I love is that like, we now as a globe have learned how gay hockey is. Like just that everybody's gay. And then I think what'll be really exciting. Everybody is gay. That's the message I'll eat there. of heated rivalry that said two hockey players are gay. And then all of them are gay. And then I think, conversely, I think we might learn that everyone in ice dancing is very straight. Really? You know what I mean? This is what I'm thinking is going to come out of the Olympics this year. Well, how about skiing? How about luge? Yeah, luge. What sports are gay? Luge is... It seems like you know. Famously, luge is very bisexual. Wait a minute. I was about to say, okay, hockey's gay, ice dancing straight. Curling. What's biathlon? Now, the biggest star in the U.S. team, I guess it's arguable, but this is the consensus, is probably figure skater Ilya Malinan. He's a... Yes? You guys are fans? Am I right? Wow, there's Ilya Malinan heads in the audience. He's a four-time world champion, and he is famous for his quadruple jumps. He's done seven of those jumps in one program. Now, that is, I'm going to say, all right, seven quadruple jumps. That's amazing. But I got to say, it's like after four or so, we get it. Yeah. Do something gay. That's what people want. Now, Ken, your next quote is a woman talking about her new $75 million documentary premiering this week. It's about so much. Moving into the White House. Packing. Moving into the White House. Whose much anticipated... Whose much anticipated action-packed documentary premiered on Friday? I think that would have to be our first lady, Melania Trump. Yes, Melania! The movie Melania came out Friday and all week, theaters around the country were boasting advance ticket sales in the ones. The movie follows the first lady for the 20 days leading up to the inauguration, with the big drama being, will she ever complete that Dalmatian coat she's been working on? I don't really care, do you? I don't really care, do you, yes. Can she be best? That's the question. This week, the White House threw a big premiere party for the film. The guest list was the creme de la joie. Mike Tyson was there. True. As well as Apple CEO Tim Cook. Can you imagine seeing this movie and then having to come up with something nice to say about it to the president and his wife? They're standing right there and you're like, wow, you know, the title of the movie, Melania, really accurate. Or you could say what people say Like I've done plays and stuff And afterwards That you had so much energy Really You were in it the whole time Yeah And I have to tell you this This is also true According to Rolling Stone Two thirds of the movie's crew Asked not to be listed In the credits No Seriously. It's like the ice agents of the production world. You haven't seen that many names redacted since the Epstein file. It's a lot of the same people. Yeah. Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Larry Summers. They're grips now. All right, Ken, here's your last quote. Exploding trees are possible. That was a headline warning people to watch out for exploding trees during what recent weather event? The massive snowstorm that hit all around us. Yes, the big cold, the big winter storm that blanketed the country this last week. That storm did not just make roads impassable and it did not just make your skin burn from the cold. it also caused trees to explode. This is great news for those of us who have always wished trees would finally do something. So this happens when moisture gets into a tree and in a pre-existing crack, and then it gets very cold, the ice forms, and it expands, and all of a sudden the crack basically gives way, and the tree just goes poof. Then you should not stand too close to trees when this is going on, because this would be a very embarrassing way to go. This is also why the trees need Botox. You know what I mean? We need to like tighten that up. They don't move around. Tons of people have posted videos, this being the world we live in, of exploding trees. It's pretty cool. You hear a loud noise and the tree suddenly goes, falls apart. The phenomenon is also called, and this is true, frost crack, which is also what you get when your snow pants fall down, right? Which is also something about drugs. Go ahead. My head went to Robert Frost, but that's just me. Very different. And that's why we're on NPR, ladies and gentlemen. Bill, how did Ken do in our quiz? Whoa. Ken, you did great. Three and O. Congratulations, Ken. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Huge fan of the show. Thank you. Take care, Ken. Boom, boom. Boom, boom. And now, panel, time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Peter, times are stressful, we know that, but the New York Times has offered advice for achieving, quote, nirvana. Just do what? Subscribe to the New York Times. No. I'll take a hint. It's okay. I mean, not only do you achieve absolute inner peace, you also find out if you have polyps. Get a colonoscopy? Yes, go get a colonoscopy. A writer was finally forced by his advancing age to get a colonoscopy, and he discovered that they're actually wonderful. A secret known only to all the people who have gotten a colonoscopy. Why do you think we're smiling all the time? I'm sorry. I've had two. I do not agree with this sentiment. I like the being knocked out and not being awake for it, but have you prepped for a colonoscopy? Well, here's the thing. So most people who enjoy colonoscopy, it's all about the drugs. They give you the procedure. You're out. You wake up. You feel good. It's okay. You feel good for the rest of the day. This guy even loved the prep. That's when, yes, that's when you have to drink gallons of horse laxative until your organs liquefy and exit your body. He says, quote, it was as liberating as a spa day. He called it, quote, my diarrhea vacation. Oh my God. And I will admit it is kind of fun to discover that your own body is a clown car. I had no idea how it all fit in there. You know, people get on the New York Times for so many like political left and right reasons. This is the last straw for me. I'm not interested in their opinions on colonoscopies. Yeah, this guy is going to be so amazed if he ever takes an actual vacation. You mean I don have to spend all day lying next to the toilet This Wisconsin Dells is heaven on earth Coming up, our panelists send us a postcard from afar in our beloved listener game. Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT-TO-PLAY. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We are playing this week with Annie Rowarda, Nagin Farsad, and Peter Gross. And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sangle. Thank you, Bill. Right now, it's time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, Bluff the Listener Game. call 1-888-wait-wait-to-player game in the air. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi, this is Caroline from Tacoma Park, Maryland. I know Tacoma Park. Have friends there. What do you do there? I am a life and leadership coach and an organizational learning specialist. Organizational learning specialist? What is that exactly? It's designing learning programs and learning strategies to help companies and organizations function better. Oh, I was hoping you could help me neat in my office, but that's also good because I desperately need the help. Well, welcome to the show, Carolyn. You are going to play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. What is the topic, Bill? Let's go sightseeing. So it's great being a tourist. You're so busy trying new foods and seeing sights, you don't realize how dumb all the locals think you are. Our panelists are going to tell you about a new surprising tourist attraction that people are flocking to. Pick the one who's telling the truth. You'll win our prize, He's the wait waiter of your choice in your voicemail. Are you ready to apply? I'm ready. All right. First, let's hear from Peter Gross. Scandinavians are famous for their sleek, minimalist design style. This week, the Museum of Interior Aesthetics opened in Stockholm, Sweden, celebrating that style with room after room of clean lines and minimalist flair. As a fun contrast, museum founders included an exhibit called the Vulgar Room, or Volga Room, featuring some extremely non-Scandinavian design choices. Items in this tackily decorated room include a neon Bud Light mirror perched above a red felt poker table, a burgundy velvet couch next to a lime green pleather couch, a 70-inch TV sitting on boxes of books you've never unpacked after moving. Much to the chagrin of organizers, this is the most popular part of the museum. People are fascinated to see so many horrible design choices up close, says museum director Jens Olofsson. It's very depressing, and that comes from someone who was raised on Stringberg plays and Bergman movies. To add insult to injury, visitors are also obsessively grabbing up only the gaudiest souvenirs. The gift shop is already out of plastic couch covers, that poster of Albert Einstein sticking out his tongue, and federal bikini inspector drink cozies. A museum of good modern design becomes instead an attraction for people who like the vulgar stuff. off. Your next odd attraction comes from Annie Rowardot. Sumerian 6'7 fever has struck teens and tweens traveling to the UK. Instead of Buckingham Palace and that dumb Ferris wheel, middle schoolers from America are dragging their parents to the British Museum. The reason? A 3,400 year old Sumerian tablet. In the bottom left corner of an otherwise unremarkable clay slab sits a seemingly innocuous pair of squiggly figures. Their meaning in Sumerian lost to time. Their uncanny resemblance, the Arabic numerals that we all know, six and seven. Museum staff report that pre-teens literally jump at the chance to snap a selfie with this apparently hilarious relic, and that attendance was up 250% compared to the same period last year. It's even sparking an interest in more travel, with many happy kids asking, mom, dad, for spring break, can we go to Iraq? It's popular with British kids too Kelly Warner, a 5th grade teacher At William Shakespeare Primary School in London Said that she had seen such a surge Of student interest in the Sumerian way of life That she introduced a new student unit On the Epic of Gilgamesh Reported one of her students Shout out to 6'7 for introducing me and the boys To our new passion for ancient Sumerian culture Life was crazy back then middle school kids dragging their parents to see the six seven sumerian slab at the british museum your last tourist trap tale comes from nagin farsad ah the glamour of international travel the churches and museums the exotic food riveting cityscapes and the costcos that's right there's a trend among American tourists that involves visiting Costco's in other countries on purpose. These super fans of bulk consumption call themselves Costco-nians, and they won't stop till they've sampled every Hot Pocket in every time zone on God's green earth. Did you know that Hot Pockets in Australia flush the other way? After visiting a Costco in Japan, one woman said, it ranks right up there with the temples. Of course, you wouldn't be a true Cosconian if you didn't buy the hot dog in every exotic Costco. Turns out they do taste different because in some countries, hot dogs are made of a recognizable meat. Look, they can't all be perfect. All right. So according to a report we found this week, tourists are going to a surprising place, or at least for a surprising reason. Was it from Peter Gross? Tourists heading to a museum of good design in Oslo just to look at the exhibits of bad design. From Annie Roward, middle school kids rushing to the British Museum because they think an ancient slab from Sumer says 6-7. Or from Nagin Forsad, tourists from America heading overseas and instead of seeing the local sites, they go to the Costco, which is the story of tourism we found in the news? I'm kind of tempted by Nagin's story about Costco, but I think I'm going to go with Peter's story. So instead of Nagin's story about Costco, you're going to choose Peter's story, which is the Museum of Excellent Design. Unless that's the wrong answer. I think I'm going to go with Peter's story. You're going to go with Peter's story. All right, well, we spoke to someone familiar with the real story. The classic Costco hot dog and pizza are here, but you can also get a nice little creamy mushroom soup, ddukkbukki, and even bulgogi pizza. That was Hannah Ashrink, a deputy food editor at Bon Appetit, talking about the glories that are available at the Korean Costco food courts. I'm so sorry. You got fooled. Happened to the best of us. You did earn a point for Peter, though. Thank you. And he's grateful, and we're so grateful you called. Thank you. This was really fun. It was fun to have you. Take care. Bye. Doesn't matter, I don't care I will shop most anywhere Nothing but the best for me And now the game we call Not My Job. John M. Chu was a prodigy as a kid making movies with his four siblings in Northern California, but unlike most child prodigies, he ended up doing really great. He's directed music videos and documentaries and features like Crazy Rich Asians, the highest grossing American movie ever with an all-Asian cast, and now Wicked, and its sequel Wicked for Good in theaters now. They're the biggest movie musicals in decades. John Chu, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Thank you. Good to be here. It's great to have you. So you grew up in Northern California, the son of a very accomplished restaurateur, right? Grew up in the restaurant business. It's still there. 56 years later, my dad's still there. He's 82. It's called Chef Chues, and he's there all the time. He loves to work and loves to eat. Wow, yeah. And were you ever tempted to go into that business? Never. Not once. Not even a little bit. You know, a restaurant, being raised in a restaurant, it's great because it's a house of stories. Everyone's telling stories to my dad. My dad's telling stories to them about me. And it's the people in that restaurant, because it was in Palo Alto and Silicon Valley, that people from Adobe gave me software to edit with, gave me cameras, gave me computers. So it was a very beautiful place. Wow. And that's what I meant, that you were identified pretty early as somebody with a flare. Yeah, so you went to film school and you made a short film which got a lot of attention and I was able to find the trailer for it online. Oh, man. And it's called When the Kids Are Away, right? Yes, yes it is. And if I understood correctly, because it's just the trailer, the idea is little kid leaves for school with all his friends leaving for school, leaving their housewife mothers, they're all sort of traditional housewives, and as soon as they're gone, the housewives break out into these fabulous big choreographed musical numbers. Yes, what they do when the kids are away. And I watch this and I'm like, oh my God, it was true. But the twist of the movie is at the end, I'm just going to ruin it for people, but at the end, because you'll never find it. The end of it is that this kid gets found and he starts to share his moves. He thinks he's in trouble, but he shares his moves and he actually introduces new moves to them. And we find out that he's actually little Michael Jackson. and that it's the passing on of the old musical to the new musical, because from then on, he knows how to do that. Wow. I'm just thinking. It was very deep. It was very deep. Yeah. It was very deep. I didn't have a different thing. You were a dancer. You studied tap dance for a long time, right? I did. I mean, I was forced to tap with my sister because my mom didn't. I was in the car when she would take all her brothers and sisters to different dance things. So I did tap with my sister. I didn't want any other people in our class. So me and my sister did our local talent show, our school talent show every year. Wow. Were you any good? If by tapping well, you mean like glitter and gloves. And I did this one, me and my shadow with my sister. And we got in a fight right before we're doing it in front of our school. And my mom brought in the wood panels. And my sister and I are fighting. And she's really shy. And I don't sing along with her. so she had to sing in front of our whole school by herself. And I'm in this big black unitard as her shadow. And so I haven't lived it down since then. Really? I actually still feel very guilty about that. So you have a big fight and you have to do this dance number and you won't sing. And she has to sing the whole number by herself. And you're just behind her in your black unitard tapping. And she's like, and my shadow. It was devastating, devastating for her. And she's never seen any movie you've ever done because she's still mad. At some point, I will get in a unitard and sing in front of her at some point. Right. So you grew up on musicals. And so you must have been excited when you got to direct the movie version of probably the biggest musical of the last 20 years, right? Wicked? Yeah, I was psyched. I saw Wicked before it was ever on Broadway when it was at San Francisco because we had season tickets and my mom called me up. I was at USC at the time. She said, come watch Stephen Schwartz's new musical. So I got to watch it sort of as patient zero before anyone knew anything about it. I just have to ask, for personal reasons, when you were watching Wicked, were there any middle men in the audience sobbing at defying gravity Did that happen at all We were all sobbing We were all sobbing Okay. So I have to ask you about this, especially with the first installment, Wicked. There were so many marketing tie-ins. There was Wicked-branded Crocs, Wicked mac and cheese cups, Wicked Barbies, Wicked Stanley Cups, and Wicked Build-A-Bears. I'm assuming you own all of that? Yep, you have it all? Now I know who sponsors this show, by the way. Did you have a favorite one of those that they threw at you? Listen, the Swiffer is pretty cool when you go to Target and you see the Elphaba and Galinta sections and they're there. I mean, it's not a broomstick, but it's close enough. Wicked Swiffer. It would make sense. Honestly, no. That's a good way to get your kid to clean the house. Like your kid that loves Alphabas. Like, I'm defying gravity. I got one more question. So I watched before Wicked some years ago, you made not one, but two movies with Justin Bieber. And I'm watching the second one. I had to. It's the one that's leaving Netflix soon. And here's the thing. you designed the concert in addition to filming the movie of the concert and including which I thought was intensely cool Justin's entrance into the concert in which he is he flies in foreshadowing Elphaba right with these enormous wings and I was wondering speaking to you as a creative genius if you have any idea that how I can improve my entrance because I just kind of walk out. You need some lasers, you need some dancers, and you need your wings. You know, his wings were made of all his things that he actually knows how to do. It's built of all the things that have carried him. Again, I'm very deep, guys. How about the flying new wings? Wow, so my wings, all the things that got me here would be standardized tests and antidepressants. I could see it. And don't forget Havana Night. No! In that corner. John Chu, it is a pleasure to talk to you. We have invited you here today to play a game we're calling That's Wicked Good. Since you directed Wicked for Good, we thought we'd ask you about a famously Wicked Good place, Boston, Massachusetts. Oh, God. By the way, now that I think of it, Wicked Swiffa sounds like something they'd say. Wicked Swiffa. Anyway, answer two to three questions correctly, you'll win our prize for one of our listeners, is the voice of anyone they might choose in their voicemail. Bill, who is John Chu playing for? Joe Robbins of Seattle, Washington. All right, you ready to do this? All right, let's go, Joe, I got you. Okay, man, here we go. Here's your first question. Scientists have tried to study what makes people from Boston become people from Boston, and one actual study discovered which of these findings. A, Bostonian skulls are 5% thicker than the average Americans. B, 15% of Boston toddlers drink coffee. Or C, all Boston school districts have a unit on how to climb light poles. Oh, my God. The one that is like crazy enough, but not too crazy, would be the coffee B. You're right, John. That's right. What? 15%. Yeah. Here's your next question. Boston sports fans are known for their enthusiasm. During the parade to celebrate the New England Patriots' first Super Bowl win in 2002, what happened? A, the crowd started chanting, Yankees suck. Even though they play baseball. B, three fans were arrested for trying to throw beer bottles right into the hood of Bill Belichick's sweatshirt. or C, fans crowd surf Tom Brady all the way from his duck boat to a nearby bar. I'm going to go A. You're right. That's what they did. I mean, of course that's what they did. That's what I would do. That seems fun. Yankees suck. I got to tell you, I saw it on TV. It was wicked Swiffer. Here's your next question. Earlier this month, Boston's WBZ News i-team launched an investigative report after a man had something he'd been saving to pass on to his kids ripped away from him heartlessly. What did that man lose? A, his Red Sox season tickets located where his heckles could be heard on TV. B, a 1981 Pontiac Trans Am that was missing both axles. Or C, 93,000 Dunkin' Donuts rewards points. Ripped away from him. I'm just going to go with my what I think is just the most logical. I'll go see. You're right. That's what it was. He had accumulated 93,000 reward points at Duncan. He was hoarding them to hand out to his children as his only legacy. And then Duncan changed the rules and they vanished. Isn't that sad? It's terrible. Listen, we had a great partnership with Duncan for Wicked for Good. You can get these little munchkin tins. It was great. It's fantastic. Of course. Munchkins. Yeah, it's right there. Can you talk to them about this guy's points? I think we should talk to them. Come on. Come on. If you're out there, help this guy out. Bill, how did John Chu do in our quiz? Three right answers is wickedly good. Wicked awesome. Wicked awesome. John M. Chu is the award-winning director of the Wicked movies. You can stream Wicked for Good now. John M. Chu. Thank you so much for joining us and thank you for your wonderful movies. I cried like a baby. Take care. In just a minute, Bill reveals a secret beluga whales have been hiding for years. Find out what it is in our listener Limerick Challenge. Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT to join us on the air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, This is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis. We're playing this week with Annie Rowarda, Nagin Farsad, and Peter Gross. And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal. Thank you, Bill. In just a minute, it's about time we sat you down and finally had the talk, the one where we talk to you in limericks. It's our Listener Limerick Challenge. If you'd like to play, give us a call at 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Peter, in the battle to eradicate invasive predators from New Zealand, a big problem there, scientists have discovered the perfect weapon. What is it? I don't know. Something from Australia? No. I'll give you a hint. Dunking these things in milk makes them especially powerful. Chocolate chip cookies? A kind of cookie. A kind of cookie. Oreos? Yes, Oreo cookies. So there is an invasive possum species in New Zealand and while most of them can be caught in traditional ways, there were some who were far too clever and wary to literally take the bait. So officials needed something, quote, so tempting that it triggers reward seeking behavior to override caution. Which is basic that's Oreos, right? Can confirm. Invasive raccoons, they're just like us. I mean, honestly, isn't that the slogan of Oreos printed on the package? So tempting that it triggers reward-seeking behavior to override caution. You're like, yeah, don't say it out loud. Just let me shove nine of these to the room. They definitely override the part of my brain that tells me, you bought this for your kid to take to school. One sleeve per person in the thing where there's three sleeves. Exactly. And it worked. In the two weeks before they switched to Oreos, they caught one possum. in the three weeks after the switch, 15. Well, it would work on me if I was ever in New Zealand. Oh, my God. They caught four possums and Peter Gross? Exactly. I don't know what to tell you, man. It was worth it. Absolutely worth it. Annie, we all know there are secret formulas for Coke and KFC, the Colonel's Secret Recipe, while the Wall Street Journal wrote about another, even more secret formula, hidden in a bank vault, seen only by a few dozen people over the decades, is the secret formula for what? Okay, the Krabby Patty is not real. It is going to be the secret formula. Is it food? Can you tell me that? It's not a food. It's not a food? It's not a food. Can you give me a hint? Yes. Okay. You know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets the highly secret formula. WD-40. Yes, WD-40. Wow. Amazing. Whatever the formula is, it's working so well. It really is. Props to you, secret formula. Yes, the Wall Street Journal wrote all about this. Two amazing things in the story. First, that the formula for WD-40 is one of the world's most highly guarded industrial secrets. And second, that it has a formula. I thought it was just a thing that there was. On the periodic table. Like gold, neon, WD-40, argon, carbon, you know, it's just a thing. It seems like it should be down there on the bottom with the weird ones. The big numbers, yeah. The Californium and all the other ones. Yeah, one of the elements. I've always felt like it's just secretly olive oil or something, you know what I mean? Like it's not anything. No, no, it's an entire mystery what it is. In fact, the WD turns out to stand for what dis? I work so well. Like, I haven't had a sore throat in years. I know, it's amazing. The formula is written down in a notebook that is locked in a bank vault in an undisclosed location somewhere in San Diego. Only a handful of people have seen it over the past 70 years because, unfortunately, the notebook also reveals the name of the inventor's secret crush. Myrna Loy! I don't want anybody to know. Coming up, it's Lightning Fill in the Blank, but first it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. You can come see us most weeks right here at the Studebaker Theater in downtown Chicago, or you can catch us on the road. And if you live in Chicago and you want to see our show's weird little sister, come check out our special Comedy Grab Bag live stand-up show March 11th at the Den Theater in Wicker Park. Adam Burke will be hosting, along with panelists Alzo Slade, Rachel Koster, and more special guests. For tickets and more information for all our live events, go to nprpresents.org. And while you're at it, head over to nprshop.org and check out our new merch. You can grab one of our new wait-wait tees or sweatshirts, but you will still need your own pants. Hi, you're on Wait-Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi there, Peter. I'm Rachel from Las Cruces, New Mexico. Hey, Rachel, how are you? I'm doing phenomenal. It's absolutely been a wonderful day for me so far. I am so glad. What a good attitude. What do you do there? I moved here to work on a trail crew with Conservation Corps New Mexico. Oh, how very cool. I like it. If that your job what do you do for fun Accounting No I a musician for fun Well Rachel welcome to the show Bill Curtis is going to read you three news limericks with a last word or phrase missing from each. If you can find that last word or phrase correctly in two of the limericks, you will be a winner. You ready to play? Let's go. Let's do it. Here's your first limerick. The airport lounge likes to promote deals, but their mush had an ultra-hot throat feel. I am making demands because I scalded my hands. I have sued because they served me hot oatmeal. Oatmeal. There you got it. Good, good, good. A man sued Air Canada for $5,000 for medical expenses and pain and suffering because of an injury he received while eating oatmeal in their airport lounge. He says he spilled some oatmeal onto his hand and it burned, it burned. He asked for $5,000. He claimed that Air Canada was negligent in allowing people to serve themselves from the hot container. A tribunal said, no, it was not an unreasonable risk and also said the oatmeal container had a large red flame symbol on the front warning people it was hot. The guy said he just thought that meant the oatmeal was extra spicy. He really said that? No. But he really did say, and that was their defense. I said, you know, we'd say it's hot. He said that they should have a trained person there to scoop the oatmeal for people to prevent this injury because it's too dangerous. Someone who went to college for four years, they went to grad school, specialized in oatmeal studies. This guy's really into workforce development. He really is. I appreciate it. All right. Here is your next limerick. We snakes like to seek new domains, but slithering is such a pain. When home ground seems stale, we start riding the rails. We snakes like to get on a... Train? Train, yes. King cobra snakes are spreading really efficiently throughout India, and researchers have finally figured out why there are mother effing snakes on these mother effing trains. Researchers know that the snakes typically prefer forested areas in the inland of the country, but they've been found making homes in a handful of unexpected and far-fung places. And it turns out they all line up to nearby railway lines, right? So they think the snakes are taking the trains. I mean, maybe they're doing it to be sneaky. Maybe they just look up and see this long thing moving around the ground and they go, daddy. They're promoting the railway lines. There's always the commercials for whatever, and they're too good. People are taking them, and the snakes are like, that looks like a lovely vacation. I've never been to Goa. It seems like a blast. This explains why I saw a suspiciously skinny man in an overcoat ordering a frozen rat in the cafe car. Here is your last lemur. We belugas aren't sexual clingers. For those keys in a bowl, we are ringers. On most of our dates, we are swapping our mates. Yes, beluga whale pods are all... Swingers. Swingers, yes. Scientists have determined that beluga whales are swingers, repeatedly switching mating partners from year to year. The findings were reported in the New England Journal of Ocean Perverts. Sluts. I had no idea. I knew. I could tell. I could tell. Weird how Rafi never mentioned that. Bill, how did Rachel do in our quiz? Three in a row. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you so much for calling, Rachel. Take care. Yeah, you too, Peter. Now on to our final game, Lightning fill-in-the-blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill-in-the-blank questions as they can. Each correct answer now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores? Nagin has three. Annie and Peter each have two. So that means, Nagin, you are in first place. Annie and Peter are tied for second. Peter, we're going to start with you. Great. Here we go. The clock will start when I begin your first question. Fill in the blank. On Tuesday, the new owners of social media app, blank, blamed a power outage for some posts being censored. Snapchat? No, TikTok. On Monday, the White House announced it was increasing blanks on goods from South Korea. Tariffs. Right. On Monday, Russia confirmed that its Black Sea flagship was in fact sunk by a missile from blank. UK? Right. According to health officials, blank expectancy in the U.S. is on the rise. Life expectancy? Yes. On Monday, the last two blanks on loan to zoos in Japan were returned to China. Pandas? Right. After a Waymo self-driving car crashed into several parked cars in Los Angeles, the company assured the public that blank. There's going to be Waymo of this. There's not going to be Waymo of this. Waymo assured the public the car was being driven by a human at the time. No injuries were reported after the vehicle crashed into multiple cars in a residential neighborhood, but Waymo was still quick to point out that it was human error and that a self-driving car would never hit another car, only pedestrians. Phil, how did Peter do in our quiz? He got four right, eight more points. Total of ten puts him in the lead. All right. Very good. Hold your applause, folks. Annie, you're up next. Here we go. Fill in the blank. On Thursday, Senate Democrats and the White House reached a deal to avoid a blank. Government shutdown. Right. On Monday, the American Academy of Pediatrics released its updated childhood blank recommendations. Screen time? No, vaccine recommendations. This week, the Federal Reserve once again held blanks steady. Interest rates. Right. Citing declining sales, electric car maker blank announced it was discontinuing two of its models. Tesla? Right. after fans pressured him to write a song against Trump, children's songwriter Rafi said he couldn't because blank. His voice is tired. No, because as Rafi, he is not allowed to use the F-bomb in his songs. On Monday, France faced a backlash after banning blanks from their high-speed railways premium cabins. Vapes. Cigarettes. Kids. On Sunday... More dangerous than vapes and cigarettes. These are the French headband kids lying with their cigarettes. On Sunday, the Seahawks and Patriots won their conference title games, and we'll face each other at the blank. Super Bowl. Right. After two boys, age 9 and 11, at a daycare in Canada got in a fight over a toy dinosaur, the younger boy blanked the older boy. Pooped on. No. He sued him. The 11-year-old hit the 9-year-old in the finger with a toy dinosaur, and in that classic schoolyard taunt, the nine-year-old said, I'll see you in court. In the end, the judge sided with the older boy and dismissed the suit, which is a huge relief because he was facing 10 to 15 years in the timeout chair. Bill, how did Annie do on our quiz? Hey, we've got a Super Bowl here. Four right, eight more points, 10. Means she's tied with Peter. All right, then. And how many, then, does Nagin need to win? Four to win. Three and a half to tie. Here you are. Here we go, Nagin. This is for the game, Nageen. On Wednesday, the FBI raided a central election office in blank. Georgia. Right. On Tuesday, the acting president of Venezuela pushed back against the White House's demands to restart blank production. Oil. Right. This week, President Trump escalated his threats of military action against blank. Iran. Right. According to health officials, South Carolina's blank outbreak is the U.S.'s biggest in 25 years. Measles. Right. This week, an AI-generated ad promoting Tasmania's tranquil hot springs had to be removed because blank. They're not tranquil. No, they're not there. There are no hot springs in Tasmania. On Tuesday, the blank clock was set closer to midnight than it has ever been. Oh, the end of the world? Yeah, the doomsday clock. On Monday, Cadillac became only the second American carmaker to have a blank racing team. A F1? Yeah, Formula One. Car shoppers suspected a car auction site was using AI when photos of a used Cadillac showed that the car had blank. Arms. No. The ad photo showed that the Cadillac had cobblestone floors. If you're unfamiliar with the 1999 Cadillac DeVille, one thing to know about it is that it does not have cobblestone floors on the interior. It's hard to say why exactly. The auction site thought they should add that to the pictures of the car. But honestly, for me, the only way I know I'm in a true luxury vehicle is if I might sprain an ankle. Bill, did Naguim do well enough to win? Did really well. Six right, 12 more points. 15 gives her the win this week. Congratulations, Nikki! Yay! Suck it, you guys! Congratulations. Gracious in defeat. Not gracious in victory whatsoever. Coming up, our panelists predict, now that we know they can explode, what surprising thing will trees do next? Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is a production of NPR and WBEZ Chicago in association with Urgent Haircut Productions, Doug Berman, Benevolent Overlord. Philip Gotica writes our limericks. Our public address announcer is Paul Friedman. Our tour manager is Shana Donald. Thanks to the staff and crew here at the Studebaker Theater. B.J. Liederman composed our theme. Our program is produced by Jennifer Mills, Miles Dornbos, and Lillian King. Special thanks to Vinnie Thomas and Monica Hickey. Peter Gwynn is the apple of our eye. Our visual host is Emma Choi. Technical direction is from Lorna White. Our CFO is Colin Miller. Our production manager is Robert Newhouse. Our senior producer is Ian Chilag. And the executive producer of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is Mike Danforth. And I'm afraid to say this is a sad day for us at Wait Wait because we have to say goodbye to our beloved tour manager, Shana Dahmel. Shana came to us after working with people like the Eagles and the Rolling Stones. And just by her presence, we all got promoted from dorks all the way up to nerds. Her energy is magnetic. Her dedication to making everything better for everybody around her is endless and we will miss her terribly. We just know that wherever she goes next, that place will not just be lucky, it will be much cooler. Now, panel, what will trees do next? Nagin Farsal. They can't have cracks, so they're going to get into skin care so their barks look hot. Annie Rowarda. The trees are going to apologize for exploding, especially in public. They will not do it next time. And Peter Gross. They're going to break out singing, It's time to try defying gravity Don't you dare! Well, if any of that happens, panel, we'll ask you about it on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. 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