Sasquatch Chronicles

SC EP:1255 Strange And Unexplained Part1

62 min
May 10, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Episode features two witness accounts of unexplained phenomena: Matt describes a humanoid 'frog man' encounter in Massachusetts with impossible jumping ability and a tree-spear incident at a railroad yard, while Jacob recounts a mysterious orb of light that followed his truck in Florida and vanished instantly. The episode explores theories connecting these events to Sasquatch, interdimensional beings, and potential surveillance phenomena.

Insights
  • Witnesses with credible backgrounds (railroad supervisor, merchant marine, airline pilot) report phenomena that defy conventional explanation, suggesting a pattern of high-strangeness events concentrated in specific geographic areas
  • Multiple witness accounts describe non-human movement capabilities (vertical jumping without knee bend, impossible throwing force) that exceed known animal and human physical limits
  • Institutional dismissal of evidence (railroad supervisor's wind explanation despite clear physical proof) indicates systematic suppression of anomalous reports in workplace settings
  • Correlation emerging between orb/light phenomena and Sasquatch activity in same geographic regions suggests potential interdimensional or surveillance-related connection
  • Witnesses increasingly frame unexplained phenomena through spiritual/interdimensional lens rather than purely physical explanations, reflecting shift in cryptid interpretation
Trends
Credible professional witnesses (pilots, mariners, railroad workers) increasingly reporting high-strangeness encounters, lending legitimacy to fringe phenomenaGeographic clustering of multiple anomalous events (railroad yard incidents) suggesting localized hotspots warrant systematic investigationInstitutional resistance to documenting anomalous events creating information gaps and preventing pattern recognition across organizationsShift from cryptozoological (undiscovered primate) to interdimensional/spiritual interpretation of Sasquatch phenomenon in witness narrativesOrb/light phenomena appearing in proximity to Sasquatch activity areas, suggesting potential correlation or shared causation mechanismWitness reluctance to report due to credibility concerns despite physical evidence, indicating social/professional barriers to anomaly documentationRailroad infrastructure as hotspot for unexplained animal deaths and phenomena, suggesting targeting or territorial behavior by unknown entities
Topics
Humanoid creature encounters with non-human physical capabilitiesSasquatch behavior and physical strength documentationOrb and light phenomena following vehiclesInterdimensional theory of cryptid existenceRailroad yard anomalies and animal mutilationsWitness credibility and institutional dismissalGeographic clustering of paranormal eventsFrog-man entity sightingsUnexplained animal deaths with precision injuriesSurveillance hypothesis for orb phenomenaSpiritual vs. physical nature of cryptidsWorkplace suppression of anomalous reportsImpossible jumping and movement capabilitiesTree-spear projectile incidentsMimicked owl vocalizations as communication
Companies
Ford Motor Company
Referenced as example of private contractor that could hold classified information outside FOIA jurisdiction
Boeing
Mentioned as defense contractor potentially holding classified UFO/aircraft information outside government FOIA requi...
People
Tim Burchett
Guest discussing Pentagon UFO file declassification and government secrecy regarding anomalous phenomena
Matt
Primary guest describing frog-man encounter in Massachusetts and multiple anomalous railroad yard incidents
Jacob
Guest describing orb light encounter following truck in Florida with airline pilot witness
Wes
Podcast host conducting interviews and providing analysis of witness accounts
Sean
Co-host discussing UFO declassification with Congressman Burchett
Bob Lazar
Referenced for claims about government possession of non-human aircraft and Area 51 involvement
Marco Rubio
Referenced as government official with knowledge of classified UFO/anomalous phenomena information
Donald Trump
Referenced for declassifying UFO files and keeping promise to Congressman Burchett
Lou Alessando
Referenced as credible source discredited by authorities despite producing evidence of claims
David Pilates
Referenced for 'American Sasquatch' documentary exploring correlation between orbs and Sasquatch activity
Quotes
"I think what they've done is handed out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities because that way they're not foyable of freedom of information acts."
Tim BurchettEarly segment
"It's like he jumped off the balls of his feet and is like, I can't explain it. Nobody can jump like that."
MattFrog-man encounter description
"Something through this thing far and hard enough to impale a rail car. So something threw this thing far and hard enough to impale a rail car."
MattTree-spear incident
"It's almost like it just disappeared. You know, and it's just, I don't know. I've been thinking about it every night and it's just, it's strange, I guess to say the least."
JacobOrb light encounter
"I think there's more to it. You know, I think I've heard the stories of the whistleblower that says, they're aliens. I personally think that after watching some of the documentaries that it's almost like these things are interdimensional."
JacobSasquatch theory discussion
Full Transcript
The Pentagon releases declassified UFO files. Alright, I'll play along. I'll see what these two donkeys have to say. First man, Tim Burchett is with us with more. I gotta first give you credit. You've been fighting for this information to be made public for a long time. Thank you for the fight that you're in. I think it runs a lot deeper. The most compelling information I saw was from our own astronauts on top of the videos, but you know a lot more than that, don't you? No, Sean. He doesn't. I do, and I do want to personally thank President Trump for keeping his word to me personally. We had a long conversation and I brought that up to him and he said he was going to get it out there and Dad Gammity kept his word. I want to warn people though, this early stuff that we're seeing is not all of it. No kidding. This is just the tip of the iceberg, but Trump's having to fight, you know, he's having to fight the deep state and it's just, and the next files will be tougher to get, but I suspect he'll get them because he is Trump. He knows how to work this thing. Don't hold your breath, Congressman. Until that day comes though, there's still going to be more and more and there's going to be more questions. Okay, when you watch the S4, the Bob Lazar story, which I know you're very familiar with. Sure. He's saying we have aircraft, do we? He doesn't know. I think we do, but I don't think they're in quite in our hands. I think what they've done is handed out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities because that way they're not foyable of freedom of information. Now we're getting somewhere. You want to know what the deep state is? It's not the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain. It's private contractors. And in 1950, the U.S. government started using private contractors. Why? There was this little kooky incident that happened in 1947 near Roswell. American's generally don't trust the government and will force them to pass laws to share what they know. You can submit a freedom of information act and the government has so much time to where they have to release that information. But with a third party company, you can go to Boeing or any of these other companies and say, I want to see this. I want to see that. And they'll just tell you to go after yourself. Right in our hands, I think what they've done is handed out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities because that way they're not foyable of freedom of information acts. They, we handed something off to Ford Motor Company. We haven't, I don't think. But if we had, and me as a congressman could not foy that from Ford, but I could if it was the FBI if we really trusted them to give us the right information, which I don't always. But I think that's what they've done with it. And they've compartmentalized this stuff so much, Sean, that it's very difficult. You'll have somebody within one department tell you that it does not exist. We don't, you know, a little guy with a man bun and the Biden administration telling me we don't have data points on this. And then, you know, the next week, I'm getting briefed by somebody in his own, in the same alphabet agency that's telling me that in fact they do exist. And here's the footage of what we're seeing and we don't know what they are. And why in the world would these pilots, go ahead, I'm sorry. Well, I mean, the astronauts aren't going to lie, but it makes it seem like a certainty that people that know like yourself and Marco Rubio, that you guys know that government officials already know. So hopefully this is the beginning of many disclosures. I mean, I'm sure you've watched the age of disclosure. He was actually in the movie, Sean. Yeah, I'm in it a little bit. You're in it. Yeah, I saw it. And thank God for people like Lou Alessando and so many other real patriots because, you know, Lou sort of was sort of like Bob Lazar, you know, oh, he didn't. They came out and said, oh, he didn't do that. And they try to discredit him. And, you know, Lazar, they even said he didn't work for him and he produced a dad gum checks dub to show that he did work for him. And so, you know, it's the same program. It's there's arrogance, there's power, there's control. They think they know what we can handle. And it's not their business to know that. And President Trump hit that nail right on the dad gum head. We really appreciate your hard work. And I think the American people can handle whatever it is. And I think there is a lot more. Congressman Burchett, you're doing a great job. What what would you say you do here? Exactly. It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chunting away back and forth, back and forth, back and forward. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears. What. 911, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better. Karen. See ya. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh. This is Alicia from Kenesah, Georgia, and you're listening to the best podcast on the planet, Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show. Tonight is my part one of strange and unexplained encounters. We'll be speaking with Matt and Matt comes to us from Massachusetts and he had this really weird encounter with what I guess I'll call a person. I've heard this one other time and a lot of his details sound like the other person I talked to. And I kind of passed it off as maybe it was a Sasquatch, but now I'm not so sure. I know that's extremely big, but I'll let Matt go into it. Matt also worked on the railroad and a lot of weird things happened in this one area of the tracks that he would constantly work. And then we'll be chatting with Jacob. And back in March, Jacob and a friend of his was returning from a trip down in Florida when this ball of light was following them. Jacob told me, you know, as they started to get nervous about it, he turned around and it blinked out. It was gone. And tomorrow night is even stranger. I'll let the members decide on this one. I'm 50-50 on this one. I don't know if this guy ran into another human or if he ran into a Sasquatch and this quote unquote human couldn't really talk. It would just mumble. And when you listen to the witness's description of this quote unquote person, I mean, it does sound more like a Sasquatch than it does a person, but that's for tomorrow night. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. And I'll see the members back tomorrow night. Let's jump into it. I want to welcome Matt to the show. Matt, thanks for coming on. Thank you, Wes. Glad to be here. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And the very first encounter I want to talk about happened to you in the early 2000s. And this happened out there in Massachusetts. If you would walk us into what happened, what were you doing and what did you end up seeing? I was living down in Westport. It was the late spring of 2006. My ex's father had found this pretty cool spot to take the quads out by some power lines. It's like the woods on the edge of Dartmouth and Westport. It's been a lot of years since I've been there. And it was one Saturday morning. I didn't have any work. My ex's dad had said, hey, the trailer is soaked up to my truck. You want to throw your bike on it and go take it out for a little while. At that time, my ex and her mother had gone out shopping and my daughter was not even a year old at the time. So they went off and did their own thing for the day. I was like, okay, cool. So I loaded up my quad. I had an old blaster at the time. Mechanically, it was sound. Visually, it looked like it was being held together with duct tape and bubble gum. It was just living on a dream. And it kind of pointed me in the right direction of where this was. I'd been there a couple, a couple of three times, but never with the quad just doing normal hit stuff. So I got out there, got the quad off to the edge of the trail leading into the power lines and loaded everything back up in the truck called the ratchet straps and what not. Locked the truck up and went on about my way. I got about, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes into it. And the way that these power lines are set up is literally just straight. You can see for over two miles, it's just straight, not a lot of bumps. And we'd gotten clods up pretty high speed coming through there. I was probably doing about 40, 45. I also want to note about, we're going back some years, I wasn't really judging distances back then, but I'd say probably about three quarters to a mile from where I had parked the truck. There's a big bull in the middle of this trail. And we used to come off the edge of that trail into the bull, catch air. Come down and catch air again on the backside of this bull. Well, on the other side of this bull, there is a giant rock. It's probably about 10 feet tall. I couldn't even tell you that. I never really stopped to look at this rock. I mean, it's a rock. I never really paid attention to it. Just one particular day. I was out there by myself. It's probably about 75 degrees. I know it was warmer ahead of t-shirt on. And I see this guy walk out of the woods wearing all blue tracksuit, hair sunglasses. He had darker hair. I don't remember if it was black. I never got close enough to him anyway. Clean shave face. And he was kind of moving like jelly. Like he was so fluid in motion that he didn't take normal steps. And at that point, I must have heard my clawed because he stopped walking forward, turned his head to the right, looked at me. And then did this. I don't even, it's like, I don't even know how to explain it. It's not a human like motion. He jumped straight up in the air, landed right on top of this rock and perched up like a frog. I call him a frog man, but he didn't like bend his knees and jump. You know what I mean? Like like a normal person when they're about to jump. It's like he jumped off the balls of his feet and is like, I can't explain it. Nobody can jump like that. Like it's a weird, it was, it was so weird. And when he landed, perched up like a frog, brought on the ground, knees, you know, kind of pointed up to his chest and feet right between his, their hands right between his feet. Looked like a frog. I, that's why I call him the frog man. I don't, I don't know what else to, and his head was bobbing up and down. And he creeped the shit out of me. I slammed on front back brakes and my quad and just looked at it for a second. And his head was just doing this weird bob thing. And I literally blew a donut right there in the trail and right back to the truck. I wasn't yet involved in that. No way, no way. It weirdest thing I've ever seen. It creeped me out. I tried telling my, my ex this time about it. She's like, what are you really saying right now? I'm like, nevermind. I guess nothing. I saw nothing. Nevermind. And I got, when I got back to the house, my ex's dad was like, damn, that was quick. And I was like, yeah, I guess I'm just not, not feeling it today. But that was, that was the incident that happened down in Westport, Dartmouth area 20, 20 years ago, 2006. How far away from you was he, Matt? And if you would, would you describe him? Well, I'm six foot tall and I've stood next to this rock before in the rocks. And like I said, it's got to be easily 10 feet. It's taller than I am, much taller than I am. Yeah, I'd have to climb up it. But you, there's no way anybody could jump that high. And I've got friends that do CrossFit. I even have a friend who owns a CrossFit gym. And there's, there's no way. I didn't know absolutely no way without doing some sort of knee bending. As far as how far away he was, probably 50 yards, 60 yards, maybe. His overall appearance, did it appear like a man or did it appear like a frog? No, they look completely human. That's the part that was weird. It was completely human, just like a normal Joe. If you saw him on the side of the road, you wouldn't even think about it. I was just so, I've never been back to the spot even, even I lived down in that area for another seven years. I never once went back there because that's how much it creeped me out. It's like, it's like he didn't even jump. He just like, something picked him up off the ground and placed him. Like that's how, like there was no body movement when he jumped. They just poof, it was like Mario. You know what I mean? Like boing, like right up, just perched up on a rock. And his head was doing this weird bobble thing. And it was, it was, it was, it was very odd, very odd. Just a normal person, it was clean shaved, you know, normal looking face, normal looking mouth, nose, ears, everything. It was normal pair of sunglasses. That was it. I remember the sunglasses because it wasn't really, it was like partly cloudy. Like it wasn't, you know what I mean? Like I didn't, I was riding a quad and I didn't even have glasses on. And I was like, why is he wearing sunglasses? It's not even that bright out. He was in the woods. You know, I don't know. It was one of those things that stuck out to me over the years thinking about it. You know, trying to, trying to make some rationalization of somebody moving in a, in a like non-human way. You know, I think it's in Ohio, they have the Loveland Frog, Frogman. And I've never really paid that much attention to it. About three years ago, there was a guy in your general area that I interviewed. He didn't want it to air on the show because it was so weird. But it was at night. And what he told me that he saw was this humanoid figure. He said, it looked like a man. He's more or less watching the outline of, of this saying a little bit more than an outline. But I remember him talking about the way it jumped and the way it kind of landed. And he described it kind of like a frog, like how you are. And, you know, I was thinking of maybe the Loveland Frog incident, but I mean, this sounds like a man. I mean, well, his appearance anyway. What do you think it was? Do you think it was someone who was like possessed? I have no idea. I mean, I, I honestly have no idea. I, I had no idea for a long time. I didn't even think about it. I'm like, I just, maybe I just didn't see that. That's fine. But, you know, yeah, I did. I know what I saw. I was there. It freaked me out enough to, you know, to beat on my quad a little more and rip a pretty big donut and go away. It is crazy. As I was riding back, you know, at full speed at this point, I turned my head and looked back. He was still sitting on the rock. Like, yeah, I know we, you know, other instances of like, yeah, Sasquatch will walk people out of the woods and chase them out. You know, intimidation. This guy did nothing. He just sat, continued until I lost sight of him. That was, that was the end of it. I mean, so I looked out of my glance. He was still there, freaked out again, kept driving. That was it. Never, never looked back for the past that point. That was the most creepiest thing I've ever seen. I didn't know somebody could jump like that. It's, it's, it's a pretty high jump. Like no, I don't, there's no way. I don't care. I mean, if you, how far you bent down to the ground to get leveraged, there's no way you could jump 10 feet as easily 10 feet. Yeah. It's very strange. And he was wearing clothes and everything. Yeah. And all blue tracksuit. Yeah. Now it makes me wonder, well, I wonder what you saw, but now it makes me wonder what that other guy saw. Cause I know he was kind of in your same general area of Dartmouth and. Yeah. That's right on the Westport line. That's right where I was. Like if you drive far enough into those woods, if you go past that bowl where that, where he was, where he did that, that weird frog jump. Probably another Jesus sped 200 yards, you're in Dartmouth. Yeah. Now I'm really going back and kind of thinking about that interview I had with that guy, because he kind of said the same thing. His was at night though. It wasn't during the day and it was a little bit better than an outline, but I remember him talking about, he said it was kind of humanoid. I mean, it reminded him of a man and it kind of did the same thing. Like it would jump really high and really far. And he said it land, when it would land, it would land like a frog. And I was seeking Sasquatch at the time, but I'd never heard of them doing something like that. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person or a thing or whatever. I mean, I saw him clear as day. It was, it was one o'clock in the afternoon, maybe noon time. Now I saw him clear as day. He's, he's weird. Like I said, I would, I saw him come out of the woods and I didn't think anything of it until he did that weird jump and just a full vertical jump. Without any kind of physical exertion, just jumped right up. You know, I interviewed this guy, this veteran. This is many, many shows ago. And he was telling me when he was in Iraq, he was walking down this alleyway, a pretty wide alleyway and he sees this guy and they make eye contact. And then the guy walks up the wall and I said, what, what do you mean? He walked up the wall like he goes, yeah, exactly. He walked up the wall like gravity didn't apply to this guy. And I was like, was he, was it a ghost? And he's like, no, this looked like any other villager. He had clothes. He had, I mean, he was solid and he just walked right up this wall. And it freaked this guy out. I remember the soldier, I guess he talked to the locals and they basically told him he had run into a gin, which in the Muslim culture is the same thing as like in the Christian culture, we call them demons. But it was a strange account. I mean, I don't know if it was something like that that you ran into. I don't know. I'm kind of at a loss. Even the gin story was kind of at a loss. I have no idea. I never questioned it afterwards. I thought about it. It was one of those things you got to keep to yourself. I remember a couple of months after that, I told my mom about it and she was, you know, she's like, what are you, what are you, what are you saying right now? And I'm like, I guess nothing. Nevermind. Everybody was, you know, the two people I've told about this were, you know, pretty in disbelief. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm just, how about those, how about this? We have a saying here, how about those red socks? Just to change the subject. How about those red socks? How about those red socks? Yeah, I hear you. I really wish I had a better answer for you. I've only heard it one other time. And like I said, I mean, looking back now, I'm kind of wondering what that guy actually saw. Tell me about working for the railroad and some of the different things that have happened out there. When was this? And if you would kind of walk me into some of this strangeness that happened out there. This was only a couple of years ago. So like I had said, I'd been in my industry for 20 something years and I got sick of it. You know, I needed to change a pace. So I had seen an ad for railroad and I was okay, cool. Let's try it. I started working there early 2023. By June, I had left the union and took a supervisor position, a night shift supervisor position. It was nothing changed for me. I was already on night shift anyway. I still had kept this to the same two days off railroad days off a weird. I had Tuesday, Wednesday off. That was my weekend. And when this incident happens was October of 2023. The way the railroad works, you have to have somebody at the tail of the train. If you're doing a backwards boat, you know, backwards movement. And the crew had wanted to get out a little earlier. So I was like, okay, I'll go protect it. That's fine. So I was sitting out in the yard that we had five miles long. And you have your main line and then they had like a siding line. And that's where the main railroad company would drop off the train. You'd bring the train into the yard, stack it in five, you know, five car length rows. And it was all auto rax. They'd unload all the vehicles off it and stack the cars back empty when I'm back out on the siding for the rail company to come and pick up. And that would just be a repetitive process. Day after day after day. Day shift was in charge of putting them on the tracks. We were in charge of taking the empty ones off and putting them back out. So it was the final movement of the night. It was like the last 15 or 16 cars in the yard we were putting out. I don't know, a train system works off compressed air. When there's no air in the system, the brakes are completely applied. When you add air to the system, it releases the brakes. That's how it can move. Each rail car is held together with like an air hose coupling. Got a big air hose too. It's probably as thick as a baseball bat. It's a big air hose. So when you hook in with a little bit of cars into a lot of it of cars, it takes a while to air all that up. So anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes or whatever, you'd sit there and wait to air it up, depending on who was driving and depending on whether they wanted there. Over time that week, it could take longer. You know what I'm saying. So I was sitting out in the tail. I had the pickup truck for the yard. This pickup truck has every LED light option possible on the outside. I'm talking like a light bar on the grill, one on the roof right above the windshield. It's got the LED bulbs on the side of the bed. And it lights up. You can see if you're out in the middle of it on the tracks, you know what we call the siding. You're out on the siding with those lights on. You can see, depending on where you're at, a good quarter mile. It's just so bright. Everything is so bright. So I was sitting there and I was waiting for the engineer to give me the signal that everything's aired up and he's ready to move. And I can tell him he's clear for however X amount of cars he can keep. He'll start moving. And it was sitting there. And my phone had just died. Like my personal phone had just died. And so I was bummed out about that. I'm like, what am I going to do now for 20 minutes? And anyway, this tree, and it's a limb. I want to say it's definitely a limb because it had no other branches off of it. Comes flying out of the woods like a spear right into the side of the rail car, impales it, and it touches the inside of the other side of the rail car. And it's just sticking out of the rail car. Thing had to weigh is probably 30 feet long at the fat end. It was roughly about, I don't know, probably two feet around. At the skinny pointy end was about a foot. And something through it with so much force, it impaled the rail car right through it, like a spear. It looked like, and I hunt a lot. It looked like, honestly, what it looked like, I don't know if you ever hunt or use a compound bow, but like when you, we launch an arrow down into like a foam block, if you're looking, you can see the tail end of the arrow shaking where the knock is. And I'm like, oh my God, my heart sank right down to my feet. I'm like, what is that? What am I looking at? So I threw my truck in reverse. I got on the radio, told the engineer to dump the train. Because I didn't know what it was. Things sticking out 30 feet past the train gate by, it's going to hit it. So I threw in reverse, got to the turnaround point behind me, and started heading back towards our main yard. And I called my supervisor at the time and I told him what had happened. And he said, oh my God, all right, I'm getting dressed. I'll be there in like 40 minutes. He lived like 40 minutes away. I said, all right, cool. I got down to the locomotive, told the engineer in person what had happened. And he's like, what? I'm like, yeah, yep, something launched a tree out of the woods. And I got to, just for some context, the clearing from like tree line to tree line is roughly about 200 feet. And with the brightness of the truck with all the LEDs on it, you can see a good 15, 20 feet into the tree line. There was nothing there, nothing there at all. So something through this thing far and hard enough to impale a rail car. So I went back to, you know, waiting for the supervisor to get my supervisor to get on site and it was gone. Lim is gone. Hold out. Just a big basketball sized hole in the rail car. Some bark on the ground and some bark on the inside of the rail car. That's it. Lim's just missing. Like somebody reached up, grabbed it and walked off with it. No wood, no splinters, just, you know, bark and a giant, perfectly round hole on the side of the rail car where it got impaled. Oh, man. I'm not even sure what to say. I've heard some strange accounts from guys who work on the railroad, but always kind of going through your mind, especially going back and it's gone. That's it. That creeped me out. That creeped me out more than watching it happen, like in real time. Like I was, it's crazy. It's one of those things that people are like, would you sure you didn't catch that out of the corner? I know I was looking straight ahead and it was only about 30 feet away from me. Probably about, I don't know, maybe 10, 12 feet off the ground. I mean, a rail car for these specific rail cars just for context, they're about 145 feet long, 20 feet tall and I don't know, 10, maybe 12 feet wide, big enough for a vehicle, you know, full size truck. You know, there's a lot of weird accounts around the railroad and around railroad workers. And I've heard some odd ones and I don't know what your feelings about Sasquatch were at the time, but I mean, a man's not going to throw that. I can't think of anything. I mean, if you don't believe in Sasquatch, then it must have been a giant that threw that. Beyond, thank God, that didn't hit me. I mean, what did you think actually threw that tree, especially like a spear, Jesus? Oh, I've always been a firm believer of Sasquatch. I mean, I mean, look at it this way, aliens exist. Like we know this because our own government has released all the files they had. So why wouldn't you think that something like that exists as well? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think aliens is pretty much top of the top of the line. You know what I mean? That's one of those things that kind of destroys religion a little bit. And that's the first thing within my head. I was like, it had to have been something like that. What else could throw a 400 pound, 300 pound branch like a Spartan spear? Like I was going to draw a butler in the woods. I didn't know what was going on. It was such a wild sight to see this thing fly perfectly straight. It wasn't flying like the tail of it dipped down. It was perfectly straight. Like something purposely through this. And it's funny. I've listened to some of your shows and you hear all these, you know, they see these things and I think other people understand the sheer strength they actually do have. And I got at least for me, it was a reverse. I saw the strength. I never saw what threw it. But if that's the case, I don't ever want to see what threw that. Yeah, I don't blame you. And then they have it not be there to have something actually pull it out when you went back to look at it. That is weird, man. What happened when your supervisor got there? Oh, it's like, you know, we're just going to pretend this never happened. Don't ever tell anybody this because you're you're you're going to need an evaluation. So it's like I'm just I'm like, I looked at what we'll call them bill. I'm like, Bill, you can see the hole. You can see the bark. You know, I'm not crazy. You can see the evidence. So like, who had that happen? Tell me. I'd love to hear your explanation of how you think that perfect round basketball sized hole wound up in the side of that rail car with all the tree bark all over the place. I'd love to hear your explanation. He's like, well, you know, it's windy here and I'm like, there's no wind, dude. That's not that's not it. It's kind of just got dropped and brushed off. Oh, yeah, but he was even through a little maybe maybe, you know, hot mane came by and hit it. And I'm like, well, if that was the case, they would have hit it at windshield level of the logo. And the driver would have dumped the train or put it into suppression. Something would have happened. You would have heard them come by. I mean, even the regulation for the company around here is when they're coming through the signals at each end of our yard, they have to radio ahead to make sure we're not out there. Or somebody's not, you know, and we have to confirm that there's nobody out there. So there's like a three point like radio response that actually absolutely has to happen. If it doesn't, they will sit and wait until you confirm you're not in the way. They don't just drive through. Yeah. And to have him kind of dismiss it is weird. I know from talking to you last night, there was other things that happened in this general area, but his explanation of like the wind, I mean, unless there was like a hurricane that went through there. Yeah, no, there was definitely no hurricane. I can confirm that. It was like I said, it was beginning of October, probably second week that hot season adjust started here. It usually starts around like the seventh or so in October, depending on where in the state you live. But I mean, yeah, no, it was no wind. I mean, that leaves are just starting to fall. I mean, it was, you know, like I said, I could see into the woods. And that's not even one of the weirdest things. There's so many weird things that have had happened on that railroad at night over the almost two years I worked there. Yeah. Tell me about some of the weird things. So it's very not on, it's not uncommon at all for deer to get hit by trains. And I'm sure you can imagine what happens to a deer that gets hit by a, you know, a freight train that's two miles long, traveling at 40, 50 miles an hour. I mean, there's pieces of parts go everywhere. There was one night I was protecting it again. This is, it was in the summer of this same exact year. And I was driving down, there's a spot on the siding where you get onto the siding from the main road and just at that point. And it's at the same exact, almost the same exact point as, you know, the tree bridge. And a couple of things about all the weird instances have happened around that same exact area of the yard. And I was driving and I look, you know, look up and I can see a bunch of deer laying on the, not on the tracks, but on the driving part of the siding. And as I'm driving, I'm protecting it so I can't stop. So I drove, you know, did my thing, but protected it. And, you know, the crew took over after that, you know, cutting away and all that stuff. And I drove back and I'm looking at these deer. They're completely intact, not a drop of blood, not nothing. No blood, no nothing, nothing there. And their necks are twisted. So there's somebody snapped, something snapped their necks. There were six of them, six does. Just heads completely twisted around. That was it. Just left there. And look up in a pile. Very odd. They just left it. Like it didn't even bother. They just, it was almost like they're trying to block the road with deer. You know what I mean? It's very, it's very unsettling. Especially in the first thing went through my head is me being a hunter was what a waste, you know? Those are some good, some good potential, potential deer when we run out of a bug tags here. And I don't know if this is anything related, but we just some giant snapping turtles there around around the pond portion of the of the yard. And I'm talking like 30, 40 pound snapping turtles. Shells completely hollowed out. It was one time in the winter that year. It was probably, it might have even been January of 2024. I was working the crew because they had a void and the engineer wanted his hours. So here he is going out and he dumped the train. Oh, I don't know what just happened. And regulations on railroad regulations are, if that ever happens, you have to walk the entire length of the train. One person on each side, walk it so you can see if there was a break in the airlines connecting the rail cars. And as I'm walking, I'm on the, let's see if you're facing the trains facing, you know, to the direction I'm walking, I'm on the right hand side. And there was a bear leg and a tire. But there's a big population of black bear there too. It was a whole bear leg just laying there and a blood trail going off into the woods. That was it. And here we don't have, you know, like mountain lions and all that crazy stuff. I mean, we've got bobcats and such, but nothing that's crazy enough to take down a black bear. Just a big black bear leg, front leg laying there. Ripped. It was ripped. It was ripped off. Like you could tell by the way the meat was torn, it was ripped off. And it wasn't there a couple of hours before and we weren't out there. And it was on like our yard side of the main line. So it definitely, there'd have been a splatter. Unfortunately, this just sounds disgusting, but I've watched deer get hit by the train. It's kind of like the pink mist is just poof. You know, it's a freight train has a big snowplow on the front of it. It's like a big blade. You hit, you know, you hit a deer. It's just, I'm sorry, it's going to pump. It is what it is. All of it's in the same area. Like a good half mile to a mile stretch of this controlled siding. Yeah, it's very interesting that it's all kind of happening in the same area along the tracks. All the deer being piled up with their necks broke and that bare leg in all your time out there. Did you ever see the lights we talk about on the show in this general area? You know, I did see something with lights. I don't know if it's the same thing that you have had had other other people mentioned. So at the far east end of our yard, there's a turnaround right by the single. And there's no really no access roads. And I had just got done protecting a movement and I had to drive down further. Probably another, I don't know, half mile, three quarters of a mile to hit this turnaround spot. And when I did that, you know, turn around and came back and I seen these two, I thought they were headlights because they were perfectly spaced apart and just high enough off the ground, it would, you, anybody would think it's headlights. It came and I stopped the truck because there's only room for one vehicle to go through there. And the headlights just turned off. And so I was sitting there for a minute and I'm like, I don't know what's going on. So I threw up all the side lights and nothing was there. Nothing at all. Nothing was there. It was just like a vehicle had just disappeared. Nothing was there. There's that. I don't know what else to say about it. It was just gone. So I don't know if that's what that is. It looked like it honestly just looked like headlights. Yeah, that's a very strange account. I want to go back to the spear for a moment. If that was a Sasquatch, which I don't know what else could do that. What do you make of that behavior? It's almost like it was angry at the train or something. Yeah, thinking back about it now, it's, you know, must have been his, his little area for that time being. And me sitting there must have given it an uncomfortable feeling. I don't think it was an agritose, the train. I think it was a message to me like dude, leave, like, yeah, you need to, you need to get out of here. This isn't, this isn't where you want to be. And he was right. That is definitely not where I want it to be. It is, I wish, I wish that I was allowed to carry my gun with me because after that, I mean, even that aside, we've had issues with like the rail cars that come from Mexico, like the Hondas and stuff where there was a, another friend of mine that worked there. And he said that he come out on the side and one night and seen three Land Rovers fly down. It's a big good cartel, you know, issue with them hiding stuff in their cars and then coming back to pick them up with the train stops. We've, we've opened up rail cars and seen the tires missing, batteries missing, radios ripped out of it, all the quarter panels ripped off of it, but left there, tires with, you know, just gashes at them left there. Crazy stuff. So honestly, a lot of the stuff that goes through your mind out there is more so like human on human, you know, I don't want to ever want to be in that situation. You know, seeing something out there like that, that was in my head long before this tree incident. So I mean, that was just one more layer and I'm like, great, I got to look out for this now too. It's just weird stuff, like weird stuff you can't even explain. You can try to. It's just, it's just odd, very odd behavior. There was a weird owl incident. Oh, I've, I got to know too, driving up down that side, I don't think I've ever been in a vehicle that's been hit by so many birds ever. They just fly out of the wood line slam into the driver's window and then fly back off. An owl, a giant owl did it one time. I mean, I'm not a specialist on owls. I don't know what kind of list, but I knew it was an owl. I see the space because it waited right in the window at the window of my, the truck I was driving. I was sitting out there one night again, protecting the shelf right around the same area. And I heard something, you know, how an owl sounds like, whoo. But it was like a grown man's like trying to, to mimic an owl is like, whoo. And I was, it kind of made me laugh. I was like, who that was kids playing around, but it also it's one o'clock in the morning. I mean, in an area where there's really no houses, nobody around it. It's a, you know, a quiet little town anyway. And then it happened again, but louder. And I never got creeped out of it. It just, it made me laugh. It was funny. I was like, that's the best you got. That was the best you could, you could do. That was one of the other incidents. And I didn't, I didn't think about it until all the other, you know, started cascading on to each other. And I'm like, okay, well, obviously there's something, something else there. That was very strange. That was, that was strange, but it was hilarious. At the time I thought it was just hilarious. Somebody trying to imitate an owl, but didn't come anywhere close. You'll often hear eyewitnesses report the owl sound or something mimicking an owl. Some people will say it was like an 800 pound owl. I heard it one time in Texas and it really sounded like an owl in the beginning. But as it went on, it started to fall apart. I mean, it sounded more and more like a man. And by the end, I mean, I can't do an owl sound. It sounded like me trying to do an owl sound. That's exactly what it sounded like. It sounded like a full grown man on the other side of the train trying to sound like an owl, but like the most low pitched voice. It was strange. It was a very low pitched who, and it was clear, clearly who like, and it was dead quiet. There was nothing going on. The train wasn't moving. Nothing was coming. It was the only time one o'clock in the morning we're around there. We were all about to get out of, just about to get out of work. So I mean, it is, yeah, it's nose. It was, you could, you could hear a pin drop. It was pretty quiet. And I'm curious to know what you think Sasquatch is. Before I ask you that though, did any of your co-workers ever talk about these creatures possibly being around? I mean, there's a lot of weird stuff going on. One guy had mentioned it after the Bear Lake incident, because it was kind of like at the junction of a rail car, two rail cars. So as we were going down, I yelled to her like, Hey, come look at this. And you know, the Bear Lake, and he's like, Whoa, he's like, Dude, what could do that? And I'm like, I don't know. I mean, around most parts the Bear, Black Bear. I mean, I know they don't generally get big. I mean, we're not talking Kodi X size, but I mean, for a Black Bear, they get, they get, you know, decent sized here. I mean, my buddy and I, we had one on our, on our kill list when we were hunting and she was, it was a sow and she was roughly about, she was tagged and collared. And they were, you know, DCRs, the, like the wildlife tradition here. They were tracking her movement through, you know, satellite. And she was, she was up over 650 as a big Black Bear. So I mean, but I don't, I don't know what could have done that. And he was like, Oh, it's a big foot. I'm like, shut up. You know what I mean? Like shut up, big foot. But yeah, it's in the back of my head. I'm like, he's probably right. Cause what else could rip a leg off like that? It wasn't even near the track. You know what I mean? That I know we didn't get hit because on that side, the only one that could have hit the Bear would have been our own engineer. And if you knew that kid, he was very skittish. There was no way, you know, if it rains too hard, he's making it very, very vocalized that it's raining. So if he had hit a bear, we would never have heard the end of it. What do you think Sasquatch is? I don't know. I mean, there are so many theories out there. I, I think it's real. I think it's alive. I don't think it's some mystic creature. Whether it's from here or from a different, you know, planet or whatever. I think it's, it's just, I don't, I honestly don't know. I'd love to be honest. I'd love to see what they'll look at it and be like, wow, that's a, that's, that's cool. I'd like to see that. I don't know what it is. I know it, you know, I think it's not human, but I think it's, it's definitely flesh and blood. Yeah. I think that they're very flesh and blood too. I think that's where the fear comes from. You know, you run into something and you realize this thing could do whatever it wanted and there's nothing I could do to stop it. But I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. That first encounter with that weird guy, that'll stay with me. And there was a lot of weird stuff going on at that railroad. I really enjoyed chatting with you, Matt. Thank you again. Yeah, man. I appreciate being on and fun. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Jacob. Jacob, thanks for coming on, man. Yeah, thank you. West appreciate you having me on here. And you had this strange encounter back in March. If you would, would you start from the very beginning? What were you doing and what happened? Okay. So we were, I had one of my buddies who's a, an airline pilot. I'm in the shipping industry. So we kind of would click, you know, and we're headed back down from is a 20. 12 hours of sea brain, which is a 12 hour car race and sea brain Florida. And if you don't know anything about sea brain Florida, there's nothing out there. It's basically a race track. So we're headed back down highway 27 and there's not a whole lot. There's not a lot of traffic on the road. It's a pretty barren area. A lot of just grass, farmland and it's very dark and we're going along. And my buddy's driving as his truck. He has a Ford Raptor. So it's a full size truck, which will come into play here in a little bit. He says, Hey man, what is that light behind us? And you know, I'm not really thinking too much of it. I look in the side view mirror and I'm like, it was a very dull, it was white. It was very circular. It was a very dull glaze. Wasn't some big, bright, shiny light. I mean, I want to emphasize that it wasn't huge between a, it's between a baseball and a bowling ball. I would say probably closer to the baseball size, maybe a little bit bigger. Um, this was, it was right off the bed of the truck. And I say he's got a Ford Raptor. I mean, that truck is it's a pretty big truck, you know, for what it is. So the distance wise, that's what I'm trying to use my best, uh, depth perception on the size of this thing. It was almost when I was looking inside of you mirror, I mean, it was, clearly falling us. I mean, there's no doubt about that. And I'm telling my buddy that I know what, like we're looking at it at an orb, you know, what that is. I don't know, but I know it wasn't headlights. I mean, like I said, I'm very well versed in navigational lights, beacons, satellites, stars. Of course he is. He's an airline pilot and, uh, this wasn't anything like something I've ever seen personally. And I look in the rear view mirror and still clear as day there to me, where it got weird was I undid my seatbelt and I turned around and looked at it. And I would say less than 30 seconds. The thing disappeared and it just disappeared. And I'm not saying it shot off or anything. It's almost like it just disappeared. You know, and it's just, I don't know. I've been thinking about it every night and it's just, it's strange, I guess to say the least, and that image is so perfect in my head, you know, what I saw. And there's no doubt about what I saw. It's just, I really don't know what it was. That is weird how it kind of just vanished on you. And you said it was about the size of a bowling ball or softball? Well, I would say, like I said, I was trying to use my best depth perception because I want to be as accurate as possible. From that distance, if I were to say the bowling ball hat was able to light up, you know, it was somewhere between the bowling ball and the baseball. I mean, it wasn't overly huge to say the least. This was not a huge object. I would say definitely between the baseball and the bowling ball, exactly how big I have a hard time putting my finger on it. But it was then that 100% in that size range. How close was it to the truck? As creepy it was following you. Well, see, this is where this is where we had the talk is where it got really weird for me. When I first looked at it out the side view mirror, I was thinking, I don't know, I guess it didn't click to me how close this thing really was. And after I turned around, I clearly saw how close it was then. But my buddy that was driving, he said, hey, that thing was literally like almost over the bed of the truck. And I was thinking, I was like, it was. I mean, that's where it was. And when you say it wasn't following the truck 100%. And the thing that gets me the more I think about this whole encounter was how long was it following the truck, you know, if that makes, because he just happened to look up at that time. I don't know how often he was looking up. He just happened to look in his rear view mirror and see that whatever it is, why wasn't following us, you know? If it wasn't right over the back of the bed of the truck, it was right on the tailgate. I mean, it was there. That's why I mentioned the whole, you know, we're in a forward or after, not a huge truck, but a full-size truck. I don't really know the exact dimensions, but you know, I mean, that's, so from us being in the front seat, I mean, you're talking probably less than 15 feet from us. I mean, that's how close this thing was. The thing, it didn't shoot up. You know, I would have definitely like, I have an eye. You know, I can see, you know, it's like, I would have definitely saw like, you know, shooting storm and you're going to see a thing shoot across the sky. This thing didn't shoot up, move. Like it's like wherever it was, it disappeared from that spot. You know, that's the part that the whole thing is creepy, you know, kind of. I have a lot of questions about it, but that part right there was like, all right, that really just happened, you know, and nobody and that's another issue. I'm glad I had a witness. You know, I had, there was two of us there to say that I'm not crazy, you know, that is weird how it just kind of vanished. I know that you're a merchant marine. I mean, you used to seeing signals and lights and, you know, this is a light you've never seen before and your buddy's a pilot. What did your buddy say about the whole thing afterwards? You know, we, we talked about it and I mean, he said, like we were both. I mean, were we tired? Yes, but we weren't like hallucinating tired. Like we were just, it's just a long day. You know, when this happened, we were both like, I mean, ultra alert after that, you know, we were looking the whole time back home. We both did this. We were hoping that it was a headlight. Like we, I mean, I can vividly remember just looking back at the course and thinking, I wish one of those headlights would look like what we just saw and it wasn't, it just wasn't. So he, he wasn't as, I say he's shocked. I think the adrenaline at the moment, you know, like the surprise of it all, you know, I don't think either one of us were just overly shaken up right then. But when we got back, we both agree. We talked about it. I said, for one, nobody's ever going to believe us about this. I mean, it's like, I mean, I personally don't know a whole lot of people that I can just say, oh, this is what we saw. And they're going to be like, oh yeah, totally agree. You know, that's what you saw. We just said, we know what we saw and we didn't know what we saw. So that's kind of, that's kind of what it was his take on. It was, we know what we saw, but can't put a finger on it. And I've talked about on the show about me and my brother seeing the light and how it actually followed us, but it wasn't, it wasn't that close to our car. It was more or less kind of up in the tree line following us. But I'm telling you, if it would have been right on the bumper, I probably would have freaked out a lot more in your gut. What do you think that light was? I mean, I'd say it's something, it's got to be tied to UFOs some way. I mean, that's just my personal take on this. I think I don't know what if this is like there, you know, we have security cameras, you know, we have all these drones and all this that do surveillance on our enemies and all that. What's to say that's not their version of surveillance. You know, like maybe that's some way that they, hey, we're going to send these little whatever it is down, let's do some research on these guys. You know, I mean, I don't know. I really don't know, but that's, that's the only thing I can think of in my head that these could, and I don't want to think that because that terrifies me. But I mean, what else could they be? You know? Yeah, I used to think that too. I used to think, God, that, you know, some sort of drone makes the most sense, but it's just a weird light. I mean, there's, it's not really like a structure or like a craft. I think I lean more towards spirits, but I can't really prove that. That's just my opinion, of course. No, I know, and I actually, I'm not sure what your take is on this, but a few weeks ago, I actually watched David Pilates, the American Sasquatch. He goes, you know, it touches on the orb thing, you know, the lights in the woods, you know, in those same areas, Sasquatches and all that, you know, it's like, is there a correlation? You know, I mean, it kind of makes you wonder, like, is there some kind of, because you're talking about the spiritual part of it, you know, for what, what we think Sasquatch could be, you know, if it's like the Native Americans talk about it being a spiritual being, you know, I mean, I'm really not sure. It's kind of, it's a very hard, very hard question to wrap your head around, you know, of what it really is. What's kind of your interest with Sasquatch and what do you think that they are? So my interest with them is actually started as one of my first jobs right out of college. We were working on ships, you know, you're going for a long time. You get to know everybody you're working with. And I had a guy that had a very credible encounter in North Carolina, just outside of Beaufort, North Carolina, and they just all, I mean, the back story, everything kind of lined up with it. And then he recommended me to start listening to his podcast. So I was like, you know, I've always like, I've never not, not big foot Sasquatch. Like I grew up hunting, fishing, like there's, there's woods I can take you 20 minutes up to where I am right now that mean you can't walk there, you know, physically, like we would struggle to walk there and to say that there's not something out there that we haven't found yet. I think is a, you know, it's a little ignorant in my opinion. But, uh, so I've always kind of been around it. And then I've heard, like I said, I've talked to him and then another guy had a credible story in Louisiana that I worked with. And then the last one that really got me into it was a guy that lived just outside Jacksonville that I was working with back in, uh, it was June of 25, 2025. And he actually was seeing the lights on the property also. That's kind of what got me into it. And then when I first got into this, just like I think everybody else, I always don't Sasquatch was, this is a, an undiscovered, very intelligent primate that we just haven't called up to. And I think a lot of people think that and the more I dig into this, I don't think that's, I think there's more to it. You know, I think I've heard the stories of the whistleblower that says, they're aliens. I've heard some of those stories. I personally think that after watching some of the documentaries that it's almost like these things are interdimensional, you know, the unexplained where people find footprints and all of a sudden they disappear in snow where there's plenty of more snow that those footprints would have stuck in. So my take on Sasquatch is, is it, is living and breathing when we see it. And I think there's, it's got some kind of ability that we just as humans either we cannot see, we don't understand or both. You know, so that's a, that's kind of my viewpoint on this, on what a Sasquatch is. Yeah, there is a lot of weird things that happen when these creatures are around that don't happen when normal animals are around. And then what's to deal with these weird lights showing up? The whole thing is a weird mystery. And I know it was kind of a brief encounter with the light, but I really appreciate you sharing it. I'd never heard of, of a light encounter like that before. And I can't thank you enough for taking the time to come on. I really enjoyed chatting with you. Yes, sir. And I appreciate you having me with us. And like I said, I really do appreciate everything you do for people like me, you know, who just really just need somebody that will actually listen and take it for what it is. So I really do appreciate it. Thanks again, Jacob. And that's it for tonight. If you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is west at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone. The lights on. The lights on. Close it. Put the lights on. The lights on. The lights on.