The Way Love Goes ft. Da Brat and Judy
84 min
•Feb 6, 20262 months agoSummary
Da Brat and Judy discuss their relationship journey, new book 'The Way Love Goes,' IVF experience, and navigating LGBTQ+ identity in hip-hop. The episode covers their path from initial connection through marriage, parenthood, and building business empires together while addressing relationship dynamics, communication styles, and industry challenges.
Insights
- Successful same-sex relationships in entertainment require intentional communication and boundary-setting, particularly around past relationships and social media exposure
- Women entrepreneurs face unique platform constraints (TikTok Shop requirements, fulfillment fees) that create dependency on tech platforms despite profitability
- IVF and genetic testing are critical health decisions that require transparency and shared decision-making in relationships, with potential serious medical complications
- Coming out decisions are deeply personal and tied to career preservation; visibility in relationships represents a significant shift in power and authenticity
- Generational differences in relationship expectations exist between college-age couples and established partners regarding communication frequency and commitment
Trends
E-commerce platforms consolidating seller dependency through mandatory fulfillment services and shop requirementsIncreased adoption of genetic testing in reproductive planning, particularly among same-sex couples using IVFLGBTQ+ visibility in mainstream entertainment shifting from taboo to normalized, with relationship dynamics becoming aspirational contentFemale rappers collaborating less frequently despite industry growth, indicating potential competitive rather than collaborative cultureCompartmentalization as emotional management strategy among high-performing entrepreneurs and executivesBody count discussions becoming less relevant in modern relationships, particularly among younger generationsPodcast monetization through live shopping and direct-to-consumer sales becoming primary revenue model for creatorsRelationship advice content focusing on conflict resolution and communication over traditional gender roles
Topics
Same-sex relationship dynamics and communicationLGBTQ+ coming out in entertainment industryIVF and genetic testing decision-makingE-commerce platform dependency and fulfillment requirementsTikTok Shop seller requirements and feesBook publishing and author platformsParenting and work-life balanceFemale rapper collaboration and competitionRelationship conflict resolution strategiesBody count and sexual history in datingLong-distance college relationshipsEntrepreneurship and business scalingPodcast monetization through live commerceLyrical analysis and hip-hop historyCompartmentalization as coping mechanism
Companies
TikTok Shop
Platform discussed extensively for e-commerce sales, fulfillment requirements, and commission structure affecting cre...
Amazon
Mentioned as alternative e-commerce platform with similar seller restrictions and fee structures to TikTok Shop
iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform where Pour Minds Podcast is hosted and promoted
WeTV
Network that aired 'Brat Loves Judy' reality TV series featuring the guests
Kaleidoscope
Hair care brand founded by Da Brat featuring protective styling products and grip gel
Miracle Drops
Product line that Da Brat promoted through various channels including TikTok live shopping
Harper Collins
Publisher of Da Brat and Judy's book 'The Way Love Goes' available for pre-order
Amistad
Publishing imprint handling distribution of Da Brat and Judy's book
Ticketmaster
Ticket sales platform for Da Brat and Judy's book tour events
People
Da Brat
Rapper and entrepreneur discussing her relationship with Judy, business ventures, and career in hip-hop
Judy
CEO and entrepreneur married to Da Brat, discussing relationship dynamics, IVF journey, and business operations
Biggie (The Notorious B.I.G.)
Legendary rapper whose lyrics were analyzed and whose personal relationship with Da Brat was discussed
Missy Elliott
Female rapper cited as influence and example of successful women in hip-hop industry
Lil' Kim
Female rapper mentioned as influential artist in hip-hop and women's collaboration
Cardi B
Contemporary female rapper discussed as current successful artist in hip-hop
Megan Thee Stallion
Female rapper mentioned as successful contemporary artist in hip-hop
Ricky Smiley
Radio personality and mentor who trained Da Brat on professional communication practices
Jermaine Dupri
Music industry figure mentioned as someone who sent flowers to Judy on Valentine's Day
Ellen DeGeneres
Referenced as example of career consequences from coming out in entertainment industry
Quotes
"We don't give a fuck about what nobody say. Coulda shoulda woulda you didn't and you ain't and you can't so it is what it is"
Da Brat•Relationship advice segment
"I felt like there was money left on the table. I felt like, you know, not only that, but our community might be book readers."
Judy•Book discussion
"For the first time in my life, I wanted to scream it from the mountaintop. I wanted her front center stage when I'm rapping."
Da Brat•Coming out discussion
"They got crafty. Now you have to have your products on TikTok shop in order to even mention it on your TikTok live."
Judy•E-commerce platform discussion
"That hurt people hurt people. But you go work on yourself before you out here terrorizing motherfuckers."
Drea•Advice segment response
Full Transcript
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This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying. And drugs. No, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Olsen, Chase Matthew, Laura, and Elena. Tickets are on sale now. Get yours before they sell out at Ticketmaster.com. When you say stuff like that, people, because you have sex with me, people think that you're saying my p*** is wide open. No, but I'm never trying to say that. I know, but that's what it sounds like. That's horrible. Then don't say that. I don't want to say that. I don't mean that. That's what you say when you say the baby is going to slide right out. I just say that because you've had children before and your body can form shape to have babies and mine They never did that before I feel like my too little for a baby to come out I didn't know it open and all that I just thought you know once a woman this before I knew any about any of this I just thought when a woman have a baby her body is already conditioned to have more because she's been through that process before You know, I feel like my hole so little ain't nobody coming through what's up y'all it's your girl Lex P and it's your girl Dre and Nicole and you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Minds. Where a drunk mind speaks sober thought. We got some guests today. We got some guests today. Oh, I'm excited. Me too. I'm excited. Okay, because first of all, we have the bosses, all bosses in the building, media icons, reality TV superstars, a legend in a rap game. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, Miss CEO herself, okay? We got B.B. Judy and the Bride of the Belly! And now Arthur. Okay. Let's talk about it. Because we got to talk about the book. We do. I feel like that's such a big accomplishment, and it's a testament to y'all's story. So let's talk about the book, y'all. Let's see. How did y'all decide that y'all wanted to write a book? We didn't. At first, I didn't want to. Okay. I just felt like we tell people enough. We on social media enough. Brat Love Judy was on WeTV enough. We gave enough of ourselves. But my wife here felt like we really didn't give enough. And there was an opportunity. And she was like, we jumping on that opportunity. Yeah, I felt like there was money left on the table. I felt like, you know, not only that, but our community might be book readers. And why don't we just go a little bit deeper? You know, I know you think you gave enough, but did you really? Do y'all feel like that's a conflict sometimes? She'd be like, let's get to this bag. You'd be like, I just want to hold you close to me tight. That's a good question, yes. Yes, but. Yes, and it's not that she don't want to get to the bag, but right now our son is morning, noon, and night, everything, and that's great. I'm not saying it shouldn't be that way, but it's definitely not what we got, you know, what's this work we got to do. It's, you know, the whole entire thing. So I think we are absolutely different when it comes to that. Even when we were doing the TV show, like, I like to, let's go back to back to back to back to back. Go, let's take a break. Go. And not that she need a break. I just, I don't want to work 17 hours straight. Yeah. I don't mind working 17 hours but break it up. Give me the 17 straight. I'm like that. That's what I was about to say. I need a break. That's not a break. Y'all like that. She be needing a break and I'm like, let's just get it over with. Over with. Yes. Let's have it done. I like a little nap in between. Let's take a nap. Yeah. But I do. I feel like it's good, though, that you did go ahead and go with it because y'all have a healthy, positive relationship, and I think that's good for people to see. And also the fact that y'all put it into a book, so y'all are helping a lot of people in a lot of ways. How has motherhood, like, changed y'all's relationship, though? Because, like you said, it's like your son is like morning, noon, and night. How has it changed y'all's relationship? Oh, my gosh, she still be on her phone 24-7. Uh-oh. She does make time for us. Being a mother is my absolute favorite thing in the whole world. I wouldn't trade it for nothing like it. And it makes us closer because she's a mother of three already. And she kind of has been through the situations already. But she kind of let me take the lead when it comes to our little boy. I love that. Yeah, and I am still on my phone. Constantly. Now, that's. So, this is the thing, though. Yeah, that's right. 2026, you know, the consumer is different. Yeah. And the workers are different. So, now I'm working harder. Really? Than I was. Really? Yeah. People don't want, people don't like to work like that. Yeah. The quality of work is different. And I don't even think it's because the people want it to be like that. Yeah. I think people's motivation has changed because now the minimum wage is different. Like, your rent is higher. Your gas is higher. So no matter if you have them same 40 hours, their same paycheck, it don't buy the same things it used to be. So people aren't motivated to give the same amount of work ethic that they've been doing. Yeah. That's what I was going to ask you, too. Do you feel like it has a lot to do with, like, the state of the economy right now and the fact that people just don't really have the money to buy things? So you have to, like, be even more creative with your marketing. I mean, you are already super creative with your marketing. Yes, so they say, I think it's like a proven fact, you used to have to talk to consumers seven times, like, a couple years ago. Now it's 11. Oh, wow. And so prior to that, it was probably five. So now you have to meet your consumer where they are. Like, when they first started talking about doing TikTok live, I'm not doing no QVC. Yeah. I don't want to do that. Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Now look at my dumb ass. Buy, buy, buy, shop. $5, $5, $5. You sure do. Hey, now Ty know what she doing now. She does. But it's so many people, so many entrepreneurs that I've been seeing online saying that, that they feel like now the only way that they're making sales is by getting on live and pushing their products all the time, whereas a few years ago they didn't have to do that. They got it in a chokehold. Yeah. They are the Suge Knight of e-com right now. Oh, my goodness. Because if you don't participate in it, you still lose sales because that's where people are shopping. And then when you do participate in it, they get a percentage of each sale. And then now they have this new rule. And let me, I have a great relationship with TikTok and I would never change that for nothing in the world. Yes, hey TikTok. But now they have this thing where you have to ship out in two days. So now you need to fulfill through them because if you can't ship out in two days, but then they get fulfillment fees as well. So I'm telling you. I was just going to ask, do you like using Amazon? Do you use Amazon too? I've never been on an Amazon platform. See, and you know what? I do shop a little bit on TikTok, but I'm still an Amazon person. So I always wonder, because people say the same thing with Amazon, too. They kind of strict, and they be dipping in the money, too. So I was just always curious what made people choose. It's lucrative, though. Yeah. Like TikTok, I think we did one of our big lives. We did, like, 250 in, like, four hours. Oh, wow. And then double back. Yeah, double back two days. Hold on. I need to sell me some hair drops. Wait a goddamn minute. But look, wait. to put the icing on the cake, I said, two days later, we did it again. Hey. It's great. That's what I'm telling you. Listen, you get on live and before I can even say hello, what's the sale? I got my wallet out right now. I'm like, damn, bitch, can I say hello? How y'all doing? I haven't set it up yet. Yeah, no, they have it. TikTok has it specifically set up where they send you traffic or... TikTok has it set up to where you get the traffic that you need to get to make your sales because they making money off of it. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. They got crafty. Now you have to have your products on TikTok shop in order to even mention it on your TikTok live. Absolutely. If you don't have it on TikTok shop, they'll shit down your live. Yeah, because you're driving traffic away from their platform. They muted my live before. And I was like, I was in my warehouse packing up stuff. But it wasn't in the thing. And people was asking me questions about the product. And I had it in there, but I didn't have it set up in my shop. And I was like, God damn it. Because I just didn't feel like adding it at the time. And, like, literally this happened within the last year. Because last year was fine. See, I can't sell nothing but jokes, bitch. I don't got the time to deal with problems. You'll be surprised. I'm telling you, you'll be surprised because all they want to do is you talk. But, see, I need a nap. I can't do it. No, but you could, the same way you on here, you be talking to people. I'm telling you, you be then talking, don't realize you talk for three hours, and then you go look at that bag and it said, like, $16,000. You be like, oh, bitch, I'm coming back tomorrow. You right, you right. I can't even make that. If I can make that, that queen. So I want to get back to the book. Yes. Because I saw a post that you made, and it seemed kind of sassy. I said, well, what's going on? Well, it is what it is. Because you made a post basically saying, like, if y'all in the book, you know, go read it. You know, I ain't worried about what y'all are talking about. So is there something going on behind the scenes of people that are mentioned in the book? I just feel like for anybody that has any questions about what was mentioned, they should do the right thing and buy the book. And if somebody's mentioning my name and asking, you know, well, if it's about your life, why did you include me or why didn't you include me? It's still my life. I should be able to include whoever the fuck I want if it was on my journey. Right. And feel however you want to feel. I like that. And then don't pull your ass up to no book signings because my wife is a convicted felon. Oh, I like that. Just finna get it. I'm coming to the book signing. I'm dancing. I like to see what's going on. Beautiful. I'm so much. It is what it is. She said Brat Radio. So pull up if you want to. Pull up if you want to. Now, I want to start from the beginning for people that are living under a rock and aren't familiar. How did y'all meet? Who slid and who did? Who approached who first? Who hit on who? Well, what do you think? You know what? I'm not going to lie. I don't know. Because I don't know, y'all. But I think from the outside looking in, I feel like you hit on her. I feel like you came on to her and was like, come here, y'all. Because you seem shy. You do. I'm going to try. She hired me to do some promo for Kaleidoscope. Okay. For the miracle drops. And I had never met her, so she was on this tour, and it came through Atlanta, so I hopped off the plane. I was coming home from somewhere. So I was like, oh, let me just stop by the tour to meet her. You know what I'm saying? She's paying me to do these miracle drop ads and stuff. So I went by there, not thinking it was going to be, like, five, ten thousand people in this convention center, and they all was there for her. I'm like, what the fuck? Who is this lady? So I get in there. I'm like, yo, can y'all tell her that, you know, the brat is here? Yeah, I can't stop by to say what's up. Child, them motherfuckers had me. Am I able to call this? Yes, girl, yeah. Them motherfuckers had me waiting like 30, 45 minutes. I was standing in the front like, okay, nah. I'm getting ready to go because she walking through the crowd with people stopping us. She signing autographs, taking pictures. Oh, my God. I know that's right. I'm like, yo. Excuse me. I'm the brat. I'm standing up here waiting. I need you to put a little pep in your step and get on up here quickly because I ain't trying to be waiting like that. But anyway, she finally made it to me. And it was so much going on. I was like, yo, you know, we talked for a little bit. Somebody got that footage, too. Did you see that? Somebody got the footage of us talking or whatever. And we talked for a few minutes. And then I was like, you know what? It's out in here and stuff. So many people pulling at you. You got to work. Let's just link later, you know. And then she was like, okay. So I told her I was going to be at the studio and come by the studio later. Because I was thinking maybe we could shoot some promo stuff for Miracle Drops or whatever since we in the same city. She said let's link later. What's that supposed to say? I think you like me. You want to take me on today. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about there right now. I had no idea, though. My thing, I was just stopping by. Okay. Just to say what's up. I had no idea she even was into girls. Okay. Oh, okay. I didn't know she liked women. I didn't know none of that. Right, okay. I first saw her on Instagram. I was going through some shit, and she came on there, and I was scrolling, and she had this message, and it just fucked me up and it it was perfect for what i was going through i was like oh man so i felt like shit was gonna be all right from seeing this message she had like this big beautiful gray hair and i was like this who is this lady and the message was just so strong so i started following her okay so then you know that's how it escalated from that but then we met and then so she came to the studio she pulls up to the studio hopped out the car she by herself ponytail down to the ground She got on her jewelry. She got on this banging ass outfit. And I'm like, she come to the studio. I'm like, where's security for you? Where's all your people? She's like, I came by myself. I was like, oh, okay. There could have been 100 niggas at the studio. You know, some studios be packed in every studio with a bunch of niggas. I'm like, they could have ran up on you and been trying to holler at you. Like, it could have been real unsafe for you to be out here in these streets. She had a little gun with her. That's all about to say. She really had that thing in the car. So cute. But anyway, so she get there. We talking. We at So So Deaf or whatever. We sitting in the bathroom on the little stoop. We talking about hair. We talking about all the things that we interested in. Then this motherfucker go, well, I'm interested in you. I know that's right. Put it on the floor. Oh, my God. It fucked me up so bad, y'all. I lost all my swag. I was like, what? Like, threw me for a loop. Had nobody ever, you know, approach me like that. been so like straightforward like it fucked me i'm thinking to myself you like girls you interested in me what you mean interested in me you want to do a rap song you want me to write some more jingles like what is it what she's like i'm interested in you like flat out and i was like oh my god fuck me up so bad i called myself getting some hennessy i poured me a little drink i called myself drinking it the shit went all down oh lord have mercy i said okay bitch you're You're losing your swag. It's fucked up now. So go get your, go roll your blunt. Do what you do. So I was like, yeah, I rolled me a little blunt. I lit that motherfucker. The cherry dropped and burnt the couch. Oh no. I said, you know what? You are losing all of your swag. Your cool points is out the fucking door. I was just embarrassed. I had butterflies. I was nervous. I felt nauseous. It was all kind of shit going on because I had never felt like that before. And I was like, this shit is crazy. So yeah, anyway, that's kind of, that's how we met. And that was like our first time being around each other. So were y'all locked in since that moment Or would you say it was like a pivotal point Where y'all was both like we gone Now we know So what happened She ghosted me first of all let's talk about the fact that I came to Atlanta I moved to Atlanta to see her after she told me to come to Atlanta And she didn't answer her phone So you were still living in Louisiana I was still living in New Orleans Now granted let's just say it was five times She invited me Two or three of them five times she didn't answer but eventually you feel like this person isn't interested. Or they got some other shit going on. Why you can't answer your phone after a certain time? I keep telling her ass. What was really going on, Brick? Come on now, if somebody don't answer their phone after 4 o'clock or 3 o'clock, what you thinking? I'm going to think you got a girlfriend or a boyfriend. She keeps saying that, but for real, for real, I used to be addicted to my phone. Much worse, well, not much worse than her because she really be on her shit 24-7. But I used to be addicted to my phone. And Ricky Smiley taught us, Like, he kind of trained us, when you get home, put your phone down. Because I used to just be glued. Even when I was doing radio and stuff, I would be, he's like, Brett, pay attention to the show. Focus. So, you know, he had us put our phones down. So when I got home, I had finally started adapting to putting my phone down. Because the ringer's already on silent because I was doing radio and I was doing Dish Nation. And it couldn't be on, the ringer couldn't be on. So I was used to having it off. So I set the phone down when I get home. But she, of course, don't believe that. Mm-hmm. Well, if you invited somebody to leave from their house, let me give it to you, leave from your house, get in the car, get out the car, go in the airport, board the plane, take the flight, de-board the plane, get your luggage, get in another car, check into your Airbnb to say, hey, I'm here, where would you like to meet? No answer. Ooh. So how did y'all come back from there? So, yeah, and a few times I was scared. A few times I was scared to meet up with you. Like, I was nervous. Like, you remember that time we met up at my homeboy Montana spot? And I couldn't even talk to you. I was so shy. I was hiding behind shit when you was looking at my mom. I do remember that. She did. I didn't want to smile. Like, I felt like I wasn't cute enough. Like, I felt like I didn't want to do nothing to make you not like me. I was so weird. But then why invite you? That is so cruel. I would never guess that from, what you like? A whole lot of stuff I was expecting. no but honestly she is like when we out in public she is raw but when she when it's us she's not like that or like for people that she really really fuck with like if y'all became friends and she got your number just checking on you I saw your post are you okay she's the most nurturing human being I have ever met my whole entire life but I was a fucker motherfucker I'm still from Chicago and don't play All right, Paul. She from Chicago, too. I know, Shot Town. You know how we do. Shit. Yeah, but again, she ghosted me. That is classy, Bray. So after she goes to me, I moved on. And that's when she always was talking about she went and got a boyfriend and all the rest of that. But, I mean, if somebody invites you to the city and then go. My thing is, we had been talking, okay, regardless to the one or two times that you said I ghosted you. We did see each other a few times. when you came to Atlanta, like three, four, five times. Because remember, when you came to my little hotel room, I didn't want to sleep in the same bed with you because I didn't want you to think I was trying to fuck. So I slept on the couch at the 12 Hotel. And then you said, if I'm sleeping on the couch, you sleeping on the couch too. I know that's right. So, you know, we did link a few times. So she be trying to make it like I ghosted her every time. I didn't. We had really, like, got to know each other. And I knew that I had feelings for her and I wanted to be with her. She got a whole bunch of other bitches I had some cleaning up to do But I can respect that But there was no communication But I didn't tell her that Because if you tell somebody that you could lose them You don't want to risk losing the person you can go be with She says nothing You could or they would respect it Maybe they'll just give you a timeline But what if they don't Once I realized going on I will never forget we were sitting in her jeep And I said whatever the fuck you got going on clean all that shit up and I mushed her in her face and I said I'm giving you what it was like a month. When she mushed me in my face and got out the car a timeline I don't need to know I don't need to know who, when, where or whatever just get rid of that shit if you're interested get rid of that shit and get rid of that shit in a reasonable amount of time because I'm not going to entertain anybody I'm going to continue to entertain you and I'm going to wait on you to clean up your mess. That was after the fact though that was after you had got a boyfriend in let's let's rewind back because when you said i was ghosting you and stuff like that uh she just moved the fuck on okay so we were talking you know we was in the middle of talking but i guess she felt like she was ghosted or whatever what's the middle of talking if you got a if you got six seven other people though but you didn't know i was six seven other people it wasn't six seven other people then i didn't answer my phone got down to three probably listen no it was a few what happened Whatever, beautiful. So she went from six or seven down to three. And since I moved on, she felt like, but I got down to three. No, you're so stupid. Anyway, so I look up, this bitch got a boyfriend. She on Instagram. I'm like, wait a minute. Oh, you was like in a public relationship with her. I'm like, who is this nigga in her house? I see the back of this nigga head. And she all hugged up on this nigga at her house. I'm like, wait a minute, bitch. You ain't even tell me that you was moving on. At least tell me you're moving on, because if you're gone, then I need to clean up, get my shit back. Y'all think it's fair for her to think that I should have communicated that I was moving on, even though she didn't communicate that she was cleaning up, nor did she answer when I flew to Atlanta. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they would have dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying. And drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. You can now binge all episodes of The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping in another world. Inside Charlie's place, Black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a ambitious well-intentioned ferocious and wealthy mother looks like in the black community this woman's history month the podcast keep it positive sweetie celebrates the power of women choosing healing purpose and faith even when life gets messy love it's not a destination you have to work on it every day keep it positive sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth love, growth, and navigating life with grace and grit, led by women who uplift, inspire, and tell the truth out loud I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years To hear this and more listen to Keep It Positive Sweetie on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all just like abruptly stop talking. It wasn't no conversation. Y'all just both moved on. Okay. I think it's not a right or a wrong. I think you did what was right for you and you did what was right for you because there was a miscommunication because I'm the same way. If you don't tell me that you love me and you want to be my man forever i'm gonna get another i'm gonna go get another one yeah but not fast so that's the thing we were we were i mean and if that's the thing don't ask me to fly to your motherfucking city like i could we could be talking and discussing and playing whatever on the phone but you want me to continuously fly to your city and you ignore that this bitch flew everywhere she act like she was super broken couldn't fly anywhere she flew everywhere she flew to get people's shit for miracle drop she's flying to atlanta anyway i did Because when she did link with me, she was linking with other people to get promo. She was coming here working anyway in Atlanta. No, but the time... That was specifically you. Nah. All right. I will never get... You got to tell it all. The first time we had a Valentine's Day that we were not... Like, we were just talking, not dating. She posted, like, seven, eight different flowers. None of them was from me. Oh. Now, you was picking men. The ones from you came from 1-800-Flowers. They were in a box. I hate 1-800-Flowers. I'm so glad you brought that up. They were in a box. And they, come on now, you know. So first of all, my personal assistant got that. And after that happened, oh, my God, I went and bought her this Venus et Floor. And I spelled her name out. And I sent it to her job and did the whole entire thing. But I only said that to say seven flowers on Valentine's Day. You doing something? No. Like, I can't help it. You say y'all love? I can't help it if people want to buy me flowers on Valentine's Day. That don't necessarily mean I'm doing nothing with them. Were you trying to make her jealous with those posts, though? No, they was just so pretty. Like, Ricky Smiley got me flowers. Jermaine Dupri got me flowers. I had quite a few people. Girl, bullshit. But did you post that, or was you just putting hearts and saying thank you? Exactly, because if you would have tagged them, I'd be like, thanks, bro. No, I posted it, because they were so plentiful, and there was so many. You knew what you was doing. You knew it was me in a little petty. No, I wasn't. That didn't come from them. Yes, it did. You can ask all the people. Yes, it did. But we here now. So I had a boyfriend. Boyfriend got gone. So I stalked her page. Once she got a boyfriend, I was like, damn, I fucked up. I done lost what I really wanted. I done lost the thing that made me feel like I never felt before. So I was like, fuck, what I was going to do, Hoppo? So how did y'all come back together? I stalked that page until that nigga was gone. Okay. I watched that page every fucking day. Like, is this nigga gone yet? I scroll down, see him. Damn, then I see him. I'm like, he ain't gone yet. Yeah. So it took like maybe almost a year. Oh, wow. How long you was with that motherfucker? Why is this not going to be? You was with that motherfucker for like, it seemed like almost a year that I was like stalking your page. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, damn, this motherfucker been around forever. I know he going to fuck up. I know something going to happen. So eventually, Lord knows it took a long time. The nigga wasn't on the page no more. Oh, I know you was happy. I was like, oh, shit. This nigga ain't on the page no more. I texted her, say, how you doing? You all right? What you been up to? Yeah. And that's when I found out she blocked me because the nigga felt like, you know, he read her page, her text. Oh, okay. And we was communicating and he didn't like the, you know, communication. So she blocked me. So I found out that's why she blocked me. Okay. But yeah, so, you know. Love prevailed. Yeah, we prevailed and we're here now and we're married and we're happy. We got this book. We got a baby. That's my baby. I love it. Y'all had such a beautiful wedding. Oh, my God. Thank you. It was so beautiful. And y'all both looked so amazing. Thank you. But I did want to touch back on you saying that she was the most nurturing person that you ever met. So do you feel like that had a lot to do with y'all deciding to go ahead and have a child together? because I know, I used to watch some of the episodes of y'all show, and I know you was kind of trying to convince her to have a baby. Right, and I've done it. Right. And I know how she is, and I know the type of things that she cherished. And I told her, I would have did it. I didn't mind caring for her. I actually told her that early in our relationship. And I told her, they would slide right out of her. It'd be easy for her body. She had three already. But see, when you say, I can say this in this room, because we can curse and stuff. When you say stuff like that, people, because you have sex with me, people think that you're saying my pussy is wide open. No, but I'm never trying to say that. I know, but that's what I want to say. That's what it sounds like. That's horrible. Then don't say that. I don't want to say that. I don't mean that. That's what you say when you say the baby's going to slide right out. I just say that because you've had children before and your body can form, shape to have babies and mine ain't never did that before. I feel like my pussy too little for a baby to come out. I didn't know it opened and all that shit didn't happen. I just thought, you know, once in one Before I knew about any of this, I just thought when a woman have a baby, her body is already conditioned to have more because she's been through that process before. I feel like my hole's so little. Ain't nobody coming through there. So, yeah, I understand now. So, okay, I won't say it no more. But, yeah. Girl, you just said it on national television and everything. Okay, well, then I keep saying it. As far as the nurturing thing, I know the type of stuff that she likes to cherish. And I wasn't trying to convince her technically. I just wanted to let her know that it would be an experience that she would cherish. And then I even try to record some of our personal moments and give it to the public, like the first time the baby moved. You know, it brought her to tears and the whole entire thing. Like, this is one of her life's biggest accomplishments. Whether she said it or not, this is what she feels like. Like, out of all the things I could have ever done, this is the thing that has brought her so much joy. Yeah. So I don't, I can't speak for her, but I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have had it no other way. No, it was really heartwarming seeing you pregnant because you were really enjoying it. And you was really shocked all the time with any little thing. I was. I thought I had to drink milk for my titties to get milked. Oh, Lord. I kept telling my wife, I'm not drinking enough milk. My titties ain't getting big. I ain't got no milk in my titties. She was like, oh, my God, I'm finna record your ass. Oh, my God. Say it again. What you saying? So I do want to talk about like the IVF journey that y'all went through and things like that because there's so many decisions that you have to make going into that. Like, you know, the sperm donor, who eggs y'all want to use and things like that. And I know y'all made headlines because everybody was talking about the sperm donor that y'all chose and why y'all made that decision. And everybody was in the hoopla about it. I was like, I don't think it's a big deal if this is their decision when they winded things down. So talk about the process of choosing the sperm donor and how y'all went with the one that you chose. Well, it was my ex. And they do something called genetic testing. And when they did my genetic testing, there were like seven different things that I carry genes for. And so when you do that, when you're choosing your sperm donor, you have to go in. Is it seven or nine? Whatever. It's a lot. It make you feel like, bitch, what the fuck am I? How am I living? Yeah. Right. So then you go to the different banks and you have to enter in the seven to make sure the person is not positive of those things as well. Right. Because if they have it, then your child is going to have the thing. Something. Got you. So when that happened, I think a lot of people don't even realize how small the pool is for black men at all. When that happened, our black man choice went down to zero. Oh, wow. So we had a choice of white, Asian, and like our baby, he's technically Bulgarian. It's like it's not even, I guess it's technically a white, but it's not even the white white. You know what I'm saying? A spicy white. He's got a few little things going on. Right. We picked his donor based off of, once we saw that we couldn't have somebody that was our race. Right. We tried to see height. we try to see build and then they also even went into like the person left something and what they do like they had one of her choices was asian and he was a musician i think and mine was a thriving entrepreneur that did something and so we just figured the best history search and all that stuff and to see what they've done in life and how they progressed and yeah i think we made an awesome choice and i'm very proud of the choice we made whether people understand it or not i don't give a fuck we have been beautiful beautiful adorable and i knew it was more behind i'm like everybody is looking at the surface level i posted that but nobody wanted to hear it because my motherfucking wife asked wanted to say and i and i didn't think about it on our show when we were looking like you know how when you film you have to like stage some scenes and i'm saying it was fake but we had to look through a whole bunch of choices and we would look through a whole bunch of choices that had nothing to do with genetic testing. Right. And her ass called one of the motherfucking candidates, Jiminy fucking cricket. Oh yeah. So people clipped that. People clipped that and they made it seem like that's how she felt about everybody. Yeah. And so then we go on Tamron trying to talk about it, this and the other. The thing that bothered me the most was she was pregnant at the time when it was going on. Yeah. And people were wishing death on our child. and wishing that the pregnancy was ended and were terminated. You know, I can't believe y'all. And I was like, now, bitch, I don't go in these comments and cuss at nobody. I am the mild one out of these. But y'all got me fucked up right now. Right. Like, who the fuck would even say that? Like, is it that serious? Right. To some people, I guess it is. Or it's the most salacious thing that they're talking about at the time. But our baby is healthy. is healthy. I mean, he was born and he has, you know, he has his, um, he has 10 toes, 10 fingers, all of the things that, you know, he's, he's living, he's active and that's what we wanted. We didn't want, cause if, it's still, it's still on my page. Some of the, some of the fucking shit that they had on there had mutationists and you, you know, and I'm like, what if I, you never know what you have that runs through your bloodline or through your family line. So it's important to really get that genetic testing because a lot of these people out here fucking and they just fucking and they having babies and you might have some things that don't mix with that person so whether you heterosexual or whatever you are you should get tested to make sure you don't have those diseases and those different things abnormalities that run you know through your bloodline because that can you know it can make a child not healthy. No yeah I agree I think we talked about this before on the show. Neither one of us have kids yet, but I did genetic testing maybe like six years ago because I just wanted to see, too, if I had anything, you know, in my genetics. And luckily I didn't, but like with a lot, especially in a black community, with sickle cell, that's something that happens a lot. Like two people won't know that they have the sickle cell training and then they have a baby together and then the baby gets sickle cell. That's actually a good point to get tested with your partner. No matter what you are. Yeah, but nobody thinks about that. Nobody ever thinks about it yet, but I'm glad that y'all did touch on it because maybe that'll make a lot of people go and do it. Yeah, and IVF was a motherfucker. Really? Don't you have a lot of shots? I wouldn't do it again. You wouldn't? Would you do it? We got a couple embryos left, so we didn't have to do it again. Yeah, so she's saying that because I wound up in a hospital with blood clots in my lungs. Yeah. It caused me to have an enlarged heart. She had overstimulated ovary something. Hyperstimulated ovary. One day she was like, I can't breathe. I'm like, what you mean you can't breathe? And she's like, I need to go to the emergency room. I'm like, oh, shit, like, what's going on? And they had extracted her eggs already or whatever. So when we got there, they said she had a blood clot in her lungs. They told me, yeah, they told me, is your will updated? Make sure to send your family. Oh, Lord. Yeah, they said make sure to send your family for just in case. Make sure to send your family, you know, all of the things. And if anything happens, they put me on blood thinners. She called her fucking family. Like, I was sitting there like, this is not. That's a lie. and then they admitted her into the hospital and they kept her then then she ended up having an enlarged heart because uh the whatever it is is work so whatever all of the medicine that you got to pump all the time i mean i was i think it's 0.01 chance well i was the 0.01 chance and so you said y'all still have some frozen embryos we have some embryos so y'all pay egg red you don't you got to pay rent on them yeah yeah so y'all do y'all pay a yearly or monthly Yearly $2,700. Oh, but that's not that bad. She is. That's not $2,700 not that bad. The way we had a guest on the show recently, and she was telling us about, like, egg rent and stuff. And the way she was talking, I don't know what I thought she was going to say. I don't know. Maybe $2,700 a month. No, let me say. I will say the person that we did it with, the doctor, because we brought her so much business. Take it to this. She does look out. Okay. So I'll say that. She does look out for us. Okay. Because we brought her. We got a little Section 8 for they in bro. They get a little discount. I like that. Section 8 for them. We doing this podcast, Mommy. Is everything okay at home? That's our baby. Now I love that because I'm like it by my mama too. Okay, I'm going to call Jordan and see where he is. See if he can. Is he coming soon? Okay, love you. Bye. She like Jordan ain't home yet. And you know it's dark. You know she don't like being in the house. I don't care what she say. She's like, Jordan ain't here yet. You know. She's probably walking around with the gun, holding the baby in one hand, checking all the locks. Okay. We haven't even gotten to the first topic. But I do want to ask y'all one more question about the book. What is the biggest takeaway that y'all want people to take away from reading the book? That we human. Yeah, I would say that and that everybody does. Yeah, everybody does. we have parts in there called like golden rules where, you know, because I'm not a reader all the way. So I need somebody to break it down, summarize it and break it down to me in a layman's terms. And so we have a whole bunch of those in there. So it could be, you know, not just for the people that love to read, but also the people that like to skim. Or if you read and you have ADHD and by the time you got to the end, you forgot. Oh, that's me. That's a fucking way to read it. Is it on Audible? Yep. And on Audible, we did it. Like we, y'all read. That's what I was just about to ask. So she did her parts and then I did the truth. Okay. No, she did her parts and I did the truth. I kept in 100. Oh, girl. Oh, I love it. She exagged all the way. I love listening to audible books when the actual authors read it and narrate it. You need to do that. I don't have a book. You know what I'm saying? Whenever you do it. Yeah. Or read the books for people because your voice is soothing. Is it? Yeah. Okay. So we're going to get Oh, we want to go to that? Okay, yeah. Ty, what are we drinking today? It's today, Ty. All right, we about to get so full-fired. So with Ms. DeBrett and Ms. Judy today, we're going to call this one The Way Love Goes in honor of their book that they were just mentioning. Oh, that's cute. So this one, we have some Reposado tequila. We have some lime juice, a little bit of orange liqueur, some hickory smoked syrup, and then a splash of grapefruit juice. And then I have garnished it with a creme brulee orange slice. So I basically added some brown sugar on top of the orange, kind of just smoked it, creme brulee it, and then topped it on top of that cocktail. And then for Miss Judy, we have some sweet wine, a little Moscato to get her going today. I know that's right. The way love goes. Thank you, Todd. Thank you, Todd. That was so cute. And I heard you back there with that torch. I was like, what's she back there burning up? Every time Ty back there doing something, people say that we can always hear Ty in the background. Yeah, but you know, I can't see her today, But, like, I could hear it. I was like, where's she back there? She be trying to. We got Shawtown's kindness in the house. I have to show up. You had to cut up. Baby, Ty is never going to let y'all forget. Miss Chicago is in the building. Yes, Shawtown. Okay, we're going to start with our first topic today, finally, y'all. We a little chatty, so y'all going to have to excuse us. Okay, so how do you feel when women start dating women only because they feel like things aren't working out with men? They be like, you know what? I'm tired. I don't want to do this no more. They necessarily aren't really into women, but they're just kind of like, oh, let me try something. They're going to wind up with a woman that's just like that nigga they just left. You think so? Absolutely. Because that's what you was attracted to. And I say that respectfully because people, you know, they're going to dip their toe in the pond. Girls ain't shit either sometimes. But I must say we are more affectionate. No, agreed. We pay bitches more attention than niggas do. Okay. And women know what women love. Right. and what women like. I agree, but they still can be dogs and date seven, eight different girls at the same time. But until they find a main bitch, that is okay for them to do. That's my point, though, because if they're going from a nigga just to figure something, like to see if it's better over there, it might not be. Yeah, that's true. I definitely think that people have this misconception that like, oh, if I go date women, she not going to do me wrong or they not going to do me wrong. Like you said, it's ancient women just as much as it is men. You still have to pick the right one. Yeah. Now, women are, all the things that she said, we are more caring, more effective. And not trying to convince them about anything. Right, right. You know, because everybody's cup of tea, you know, is their own cup of tea. Yeah. That's true. Because I feel like sometimes, though, like, I have friends in the community and they're like, I don't like dating somebody who's unsure. Like, some women I've met, they're like, I don't like to date bisexual women because I feel like you're just saying you're bisexual. But you're just experimenting with women, but you really like men. Yeah. So how, like before, obviously, when y'all were like single and dating, would y'all be okay with like dating a girl who was like, oh, I'm unsure or I'm on the fence? Like, how was that for y'all? One of the first girls I dated was like that. And I felt like she, when she was doing that, it was more like attention. Like we would, we was kind of, we both were shaped the same, by the way. So when we would go in public places, she would like to hold my hand when niggas was around. Like, she was... It almost seemed like she was doing it for the attention of it. Yeah. And, yeah, it didn't... Maybe a month. Mm. Yeah. Because that's a little weird. Because I feel like in lesbian relationships, they already have to deal... Because I see this online a lot with men like, oh, she just ain't had me. She just ain't had a man good enough. No. No, because I think we both fucked with niggas and bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People don't... I don't know. Do people know that about you? Do they know that about you? What? I'm not going to lie. You just fucked with men and women. I got four children and I told them. I mean, hey, back in the day, yeah. Oh, you mean do they know that I fuck with women before? I think so. I've been transparent. Yeah. I fucked with niggas all through church, high school, junior high, the beginning of the career, all of that. I remember you used to date A.I. back in the day. Couple people. Yeah, couple people. That's right. But that's the one. I don't care. I'll be the only one person that speak out. Girl, and I'm so tired of hearing about it. And hearing about it. Let me tell you why. This motherfucker won't go do an interview. Please don't. And talk about something that they did that is sexually explicit. And then it got clipped. Oh, yeah. And got posted everywhere. So I'm scrolling. I had no idea. Every motherfucking post, I have my wife talking about something with her ex. and I don't care that she have exes, but I don't want to know what the fuck you did. Yeah, right. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. Back then, I lied to everybody. They have had this case for 30 years. I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth. You can now binge all episodes of The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's Place, Black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they would have dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. Inside Charlie's place, Black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the KKK? Yeah, they would have dressed up in their uniform. The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him. From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and Visit Myrtle Beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A ambitious, well-intentioned, ferocious, and wealthy mother looks like in the Black community. This Women's History Month, the podcast Keep It Positive, Sweetie, celebrates the power of women choosing healing, purpose, and faith, even when life gets messy. Love is not a destination. You have to work on it every day. Keep It Positive, Sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth, love, growth, and navigating life with grace and grit led by women who uplift, inspire, and tell the truth out loud. I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years. To hear this and more, listen to Keep It Positive, Sweetie on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and that's the worst when shit go viral cause you can't block all of that first of all I didn't even expect that to happen that was probably the very first podcast I had ever did Candy I love you but you was fucked up for that and it was with Candy and I just didn't think that I don't know I just didn't think that had I known it was gonna piss her off I wouldn't have fucking did it I had never done had you known if I went on a podcast and told somebody about my sexual excursions with my ex that wouldn't do nothing I don't know if I would be mad at you because it's something you've been through and something that you did or lived. You ain't fucking with the nigga no more or the bitch no more. You with me. Where you need to be. Where you supposed to be. It wouldn't matter because that's your past experience. But I didn't realize it was going to make you feel fucked up and I definitely didn't think it was going to go viral because I was just having a conversation with Candy who I've been knowing since I was a child. I was just comfortable. I didn't think. I just didn't think that was going to happen and I keep apologizing to you for that so stop bringing this shit up because i said i'm sorry already because i really am i felt bad had i known that was going to offend you i would have never fucking talked about it have i done it since have i talked about any other fucking body ever since then did i date it no i haven't it's not that it's specific rules but it's i know you're right i get it i get it you definitely made me understand but i think it's where she coming from though because i feel like I more so am on the side with you. It's part of my past. We've all had a past. Right. We all have exes. But I was in a situation like this before. Like Lex and I did somebody podcast like a few years ago And I got asked a question And I talked about like an encounter that i had with one of my exes and my boyfriend at the time was so mad at me he was pissed but you didn think it was gonna piss him off had you thought it was gonna piss him off you probably would exactly yeah yeah and i get where you coming from because i love you you had sex before me yeah you were doing things before you met me i don't want to know but not even that part it's not that i don't know that you did stuff before me it was it was specific detail yeah I don't want to hear about the details. So I feel you. I definitely feel you. So how do y'all feel now, though? Like y'all are married, y'all have children. So how did y'all deal with it in the beginning? Because I know men used to say things like that to y'all. Like, oh, you need to be with me. You don't need that. Like, how do y'all deal with that? We don't give a fuck about that. You don't do nothing. When I say nothing, you don't do nothing. Can't nothing fuck with us in our relationship at all. I love that. We don't give a fuck about what nobody say. coulda shoulda woulda you didn't and you ain't and you can't so it is what it is yeah and do y'all deal with that too like a lot of people when they see y'all's relationship they want that and they don't mind people be like if we ain't if y'all ain't loving us like brad and judy we don't want it yeah but do y'all deal with like people being like oh i want to date you or i want to like because people sometimes they see relationships they be like oh i want her and i don't care i'll be aside do y'all deal with that i'll fucking kill somebody over this one i know that i know that's right yeah oh we don't do that okay good but i'm saying people message y'all like that like i saw it in her dm oh that's what i'm saying i know it happens like people either but neither one of us entertain it right yeah our the password to her phone is the same password to mine right that's real love absolutely i love that but yeah i'm not saying it's perfect though because i think that's the whole and not to bring it back to the booth but it's the main reason we did that is to say yes nice pretty and shiny but we also go through our struggles right also you know we also fight we also fuss but this is how we got to the other side of it yeah right right like you know i'm gonna express something that i don't like she's gonna express something that she doesn't like i'm gonna hear her out and listen to her side she's gonna hear me out and listen to my side and we but but if we have a motherfucking disagreement Oh, there we go. This bitch can hold a grudge. I tell you, boy, we get to fussing and arguing about something, and I'll be ready to, like, we fussing, and she will just get up and walk the fuck out. I can't stand that. Get your ass back here. We need to talk about this shit and resolve it. Well, she need to walk away, take a break, and compartmentalize and go, you know, so she don't say nothing, she don't mean. or say nothing she can't take back. So I'm like, damn, you would say something to me that you can't take back? So in the heat of the moment, in anger, you possibly could. So I try to understand that. But I still don't fucking like it. To this day, I don't want to go to bed mad. Tomorrow is not promised. I don't like that shit. I can't sleep at night if we mad at each other. And we sleeping on the other side of the bed. She on the edge of one side. I'm on the edge of the other side. Bitch, I'm cold. I want some skin. You know what I'm saying? She over there. I'm like, God damn it. why didn't we resolve this shit? Yeah. But she can take it on for a couple days and us not talk about it. I need to resolve it. Yeah. Y'all, we resonate with y'all in so many ways. Literally. Even though, I mean, it's like we have a platonic relationship. It's not romantic, but y'all remind me still so much of our film. Literally. Because having a business with somebody is like a fucking marriage. It's a relationship. And people do not realize that. And I'm like you. Like, I be like, no, we need to talk about this shit right now. Yeah. And then she'll go dazed without wanting to talk about food. I don't be over here mad at you. You got an attitude. Yeah, let's squash it. So neither one of us have an attitude when we think about it. Otherwise, we trying to be mad at each other. I ain't finna kiss her before I leave. Fuck that bitch. I ain't doing that shit because she's making up. That shit is hard. It doesn't make it heavy. It gets petty. I feel like the first time that passed by without y'all having a conversation, now y'all both being petty. Yeah. It's like, oh, she not fucking with me. But that's the thing, though. It's not that I haven't carried it. Yeah. I've put it away. I just have learned. But you can't put it away. I don't like, don't put it away. What the fuck you mean you put it away? Then where does it go? Because you're sitting on me. Right, right. You said, where does it go? Put it away where? I always say this. As a CEO running a company, it is really hard to carry all of the things in life, right? And get up and function, right? Right. So I've learned how to compartmentalize all of it. Otherwise, carrying it all, you lose your damn mind. You don't want to take the journey. You don't want to do the thing. so along with having a business I also support my family I also you know all of these extra things and so when it comes to our home and our lives it's like I hear you beautiful right now but I'm gonna tuck this right away in this box over here because I know I'm mad I know how I can respond to this but I'm still sitting over here with my feelings hurt yeah she done moved on I might take a day not two days later I'll be like oh yeah shit I forgot we even fussed about that yeah cause I done put it to the side you done forgot Ain't that some shit? And she like, and I'm over here still. But not forgot about her, but the thing. It's like, oh, yeah. Like, that's, okay. Yeah, bitch, when we gonna talk about it? After you make the miracle drops and do all that shit and go do content at the warehouse, when is we gonna talk about it? Like, we still need to talk. Yeah, I know. So let me ask you, when y'all first, like, started dating, had you came out already? No. Okay, that's what I want to talk about. Because I remember, like, seeing, like, rumors and things like that y'all were dating. But I was like, it was a mixed reaction when you came out. Because everybody was like, I thought she already came out. We already knew that. And then people was like, oh, my gosh, it was a big deal. So how were y'all dating and still, I mean, of course you want to keep it quiet. But at the same time, it's like, okay, I still want to go out with my person, have dinner, like a regular dating situation. So how was that, dating somebody that's extremely popular and famous, but they're in the closet? In private. I was actually fine. I used to text her manager all the time and ask questions. am I supposed to, how do I send her something? If I send her something do I not put my name on it? You know, but I liked her so much I was willing to date her however I needed to date her, whether she came to my place or we had to meet somewhere or you know, hide in the back of the car. It was her. Yeah. And then when we went to Essence she held my hand first. At that point I was ready to come the fuck out of the car. Aww. You made me want to just tell everybody I wanted to hold your hand. I sat down I wanted her to sit on my lap. I wanted that ass in my lap. I wanted that ass on me. I don't know. For the first time in my life, I wanted to scream it from the mountaintop. Oh, my God. Like, I wanted her front center stage when I'm rapping. I want to look at her when I'm rapping. Like, everything. Like, I just want... Oh, my God. My fucking team lost their mind because I had never been like that at all in public for years. Right. Like, 20 years, 30 years. Yeah. so when I would hold her hand they would all grab hands like okay we walking through the crowd together like they was trying to protect me because they know what was going on like what are you doing like I'm like nah man I want everybody to know I'm holding her hand I was kissing on her cheek in public and the niggas was like my team was like what are you doing are you sure this is what you want to do are you okay but yes like yes it was amazing we went to Morals and had dinner Patty LaVelle was there it was Essence right and we was all in there and we sat next to each other I was rubbing on my foot under the table like oh bitch I fucking love you but every you know my team was still looking around like B people are watching I'm like I don't care like I wanted to sit close to her I wanted to feed her I didn't give a fuck who was watching who had their camera out for the first time I felt like free and did not give a fuck. Yeah. So prior to Judy, was it something that you just wanted, like you didn't want people to know or did you just feel like this is my business, like I don't owe y'all to let y'all know. Well, I didn't want people to know and back in the day it wasn't cool. It wasn't safe to let people know. You know, Ellen lost her whole show, she lost her whole shit when she came out. And shit was not cool back in the day. You couldn't tell people you like girls or you like women or whatever. fuck that you lose your whole career and your whole shit so i had a lot to lose like in the industry they want you to be fuckable they tell you you want the niggas to want you and you want the bitches to want you you can't say you in a relationship you can't be pregnant you can't do none of that shit because then you're gonna fuck up the record sales and you're fucking up the money so that is what we are taught we was taught growing up you know what i'm saying in the industry so and then after a while it became like okay this is my sacred thing like my relationships ships in My private life is the only thing that I have to myself because everybody else is in the business. They create lives and they want to make up stuff. So I'm just going to keep this to myself. So that's what it became, like, a protected thing. But then when I met her, I was like, fuck that. I need people to know I love this motherfucker. Like, not saying all the other people wasn't shit, but it's the way she made me feel. You know what I'm saying? She made me feel safe, and I wanted people to know I got a bad bitch. I got a bad bitch with motherfucking a business a big ass, a beautiful face smart as fuck, what the fuck is you saying she's mine and I want the world to fucking know that's amazing, I love this I do too cause I feel like in the moment, like I remember when it was happening and it was like, like I said, mixed things that people were saying, they're like oh I thought we already knew that, I'm like no cause I'll be on the blogs baby, I know the tea I said she has never said that what her sexuality was But I think it's such a good thing that you did come out and how, like, because I do think this. I think people overly sexualize same-sex couples. I do. So I love the fact that y'all show so much of y'all's relationship as far as the business, the family. Because, again, I think they always do that to same-sex couples. And I think it's a little awkward. Like, when I see people interviewing same-sex couples, they be like, oh, they want to talk about them in the bedroom. I'm like, y'all would never do this to, you know, like a man and a woman. and y'all would never ask them what they do in the bedroom and things like that. So I think the line gets really, really weird and gray. That area gets gray. But I think how y'all show y'all's relationship is very inspiring to all types of couples. It is. Y'all can be couple goals for anybody. Because I'm saying having a business with somebody, a family, you know it's inspiring. It's beautiful to see. It is. Yeah. And I just saw another interview that y'all did, and I loved with T.S. Madison. Shout out to T.S. Madison. Hey, girl. But yes, and I saw that she was asking you, like, do you put labels on yourself? And you was like, no, I don't like when people try to put me in a box because at the end of the day, I'm still a woman. I still like to be sexy. I like my bra and my panties to match. And I love that because I feel like people probably do automatically always try to put you in a category and call you a stud. I feel like I've never, first of all, never understood the labels, like I guess because they came after. Yeah. Like, so I'm just like, what is all these things? There's so many fucking labels. I don't know. You a he, a they, a they, a she, a what? It gets real. It's a lie. Like, I get confused. Is it a pronoun? Is it an adjective? Like, I don't fucking know what it is. But I'm just me. You know what I'm saying? I'm me. I don't feel like I'm a stud. I feel like I'm a tomboy. You know, I like some boy clothes. I like some girl clothes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love nails. I need my nails to be fresh. You know what I'm saying? I love makeup. I love to be beat, bitch. You know what I'm saying? I don't wear thongs, but I like bikini panties. I like the bras to match. You know what I'm saying? Like, I keep my toes done. I like to be well manicured. Like, and that's just who I am. Like, some girls that are studs don't, or some girls that are tomboys don't. Like, they don't want nothing to do with makeup and nails. That's them. They're gonna be them, and I'm gonna be me. And I just don't, I've never done labels. Yeah. I mean, you've always been feminine to me. Like I said, every time when we would watch Dish Nation, you always makeup done, hair done. Everything is very much polished. But my style is, I'm just comfortable. I've been dressing like this since the motherfucking 90s, and I ain't going to let nobody. People be like, she need to change her stuff. No, bitch, I'm not changing. This is how I'm comfortable. You know what I'm saying? I might put on a men's suit on your ass, but I've seen a bunch of women wear men's suits. They do. And they do. And it's cute. So I really don't give a shit what nobody says. As long as I'm comfortable, most likely I'm not putting on no heels unless it's Halloween and I'm dressing as Sherry Shepard and I'm dressing as my wife in one of her wigs or something like that. But other than that, this is me. I'm comfortable in my own skin and who I am. And I'm black and I'm fucking proud and gay as fucking in love with my beautiful wife. Yeah, I just think all of that shit is just annoying anyways. Because it's not fair that people put labels on public figures in the first place. But you don't owe them an explanation. I don't. There's a lot of pressure too. And it's hard because you don't want to offend people, but it's like, I don't think anybody sane is deliberately doing things to offend people or make somebody or exclude. I'm just being myself. Right. And we're all learning to be better every day. Life is already hard enough as it is, and now you're trying to put a label on me that I never said I was. No offense to the people who do label themselves that way, but that's not me. Right. You know what I mean? Right. So we gonna go ahead and get into topic two, y'all. We moving along, y'all. I ain't having a ball. Topic two. Y'all, we ain't done yet. Damn. We ain't done yet. Okay. We're going to have a questionable lyric break. We're going to play a little game with y'all. Yes. All right. What we got, Dreya? Okay. So some of the most iconic rap songs have had some of the weirdest and most controversial lyrics. So we're going to read some of them to y'all and just see what y'all think they mean in these lyrics. Okay. So first we have Webby, Bad Bitch. Classic record, by the way. Classic record. He said, the girl be cooking and cleaning and cleaning and cooking. and she be constantly dushing and cleaning her pussy. Why was she constantly dushing? And cleaning her pussy. What was the reason? And let me stay fresh with him. I feel like something was wrong. Constantly? Constantly. Means all the time. Okay. So, y'all crazy. So, if we try to analyze it. Right. But no, because no, I can't say that. Say it. You can say it. Because we probably will. Do we feel like healthcare is different? In different communities? Ooh. Yes. So then maybe the health care wasn't there in the community that he was dating in. Okay. So maybe. Maybe her pussy stanked. Yeah. I'm saying that she might not have had the best kind of medical service to go to her gynecologist to figure out what was going on. So she had to keep dushing. Every day. Constantly. I've seen this trend, y'all, I'm not lying, where, like, girls are, like, going to the bathroom and showing their panties. Like, oh, it's real clean. Like, they're taking off their panties and they're showing that their panties are clean. Where are you seeing these? On Twitter. It gets real nasty in the streets. Just so they can... I don't... You know, a lot of... Are people still on that platform? Yes, they are. That's not even what they call it no more. Oh, eggs. Eggs. But I say that because I feel like that is such a male-centered thing to do. Like, look, my panties clean. I dush all the time. First of all, you're not even supposed to dush. You know what I'm saying? Right. Because, I mean, it's like a self-cleaning oven, if you will. You know, it does what it's supposed to do. So I feel like, you know, it was cute for the song, but, you know, in the club, ladies, raise your hand if your pussy don't stink. Shut up, girl. We need to let go of all that. Because half the time, it's them balls that stink. It's them balls that need... They need something, some ball wash. You know what I'm saying? Duck butter. The duck butter be under there, and it be thick as hell. You see, when you say that, that makes me think that maybe she was constantly dushing because he gave her something. Come on now. Break it down. Maybe the itch came from him. It came from him. That's a good point. What's up now? Let us know something. And to be fair, back in them days, like when that song came out, dushing was like a popular way for vaginal cleaning. Yeah. You know? Like I say this all the time. Growing up, my aunts and stuff used to tell you you was supposed to dush. With a little vinegar? Yeah. The basic deal. Lord have mercy What's that other thing they used to have The bag thing The little red bag Your grandma had What I ain't never seen that Your grandma might have it hanging over the shower It's a red bag and it's got a long cord And they put water in it And they clean themselves out Put vinegar and water in it And they used to be using them Norforms Wow Wow. Times is crazy. Ladies, leave that coochie alone. Okay? All right. Let's see what we got. Did we say we was going to do this one? No, yeah, we're going to skip that one. Okay, so next we have Biggie, Me and My Bitch. You look so good, huh? I suck on your daddy dick. If a nigga ever came up to me, I think that you just want to suck some dick. You just need an excuse. Because that is some crazy... That's crazy to say. That was her friend. Okay, let me tread lightly then. Why did your friend say that? I really don't know. I just think he was a genius with the lyrics. I don't know why he said that. And it was not a problem back then, but because the way the world is now, now that's like an issue. But if it wasn't made a big deal of when it was out and he was alive, then it shouldn't be made a big deal of now. So how did people feel back then when it came out like niggas was in the club rapping that? Yeah, it didn't matter. It was Biggie. Yeah. It was phenomenal, and the world loved him. And didn't nobody say shit about it then. They were singing it. I know that. I suck your daddy dick. If I see my nigga in the club singing, I'll be like, okay. Yeah, get into it. I feel like the climate has definitely changed. Like, it's so many things that were just not a big deal. Back in the day that now, everybody be wanting to make a huge thing. And I think it's a lot of homophobia going on these days. Because they gay. Everybody also. You said because they gay. Yeah, for sure. Most of the people that have homophobia are just like real gay, against gay. Baby, they in the closet. They trapped in the closet. They are trapped. Come on now. Come tell us about it. Woo! And let me ask you this. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about, obviously, this is your friend, how do you feel about like the documentaries that are coming out right now and him being involved like and you seeing the way people are talking? How does that make you feel knowing that you knew him in real life? Yeah. Who? Biggie. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. 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Like, brought out all the bad things. So I really don't know all the information to comment on. Okay. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know, you know. I just know Biggie, and I love Biggie. He was an amazing person. He was like a big teddy bear. I don't know Diddy like that. I met Diddy a few times. Never went to the parties or know none of that. So, you know, I did a song with Total. I did songs with Biggie. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I just know I love Biggie because he was an amazing person and a great friend. And he was an amazing lyricist. I had never seen nobody not write with a pen, write their lyrics down. He would sit there and memorize it and write it in his head and then go in the booth and record it. And that was the first time I had ever seen that because I'm sitting there writing my lyrics. We did a song called The B-Side. I'm writing my lyrics. I'm like, I'm about to be done, nigga. He was like, oh, I'm done already. I'm like, no, you're not. You ain't even write shit down. He got up and went in the booth, and he was done, and he spit it off the top of his head. I don't know how he did that, because he smoked a whole lot of weed. His memory should have been fucked up, but he was a genius. That's amazing. I love hearing stories like that, because they don't make artists like that no more. No. They get in the studio like, touch your toes, bitch. Yeah, or it's a punch. You do two lines, you stop, you punch in. Yeah. Two lines, punch in. and do two lines punch in. Yeah, nah. That's what the audience wants now, though. Yeah, they do. They be like in popcorn rope. I do like to hear, I like to hear some, like I said, the Kendrick album, like that's the stuff we need. We want to hear people. We need lyrics. Yeah, like I want to dance still. Yeah. Because that's what, Biggie, he had the tunes that would just make us, you know, on. It was, but we were still so much lyrics at the same time. And I just feel like a lot of music is missing at these days. So speaking of you, Da Brat, Ain't got time to waste. I'm individually wrapped like a fresh Twinkie. So if I cream in the middle, nigga, licky, licky, licky, licky. Now you wrote that down. You wrote it. Yeah. You wrote that down. Tell us about it. I think that's self-explanatory. That mean I taste good as fuck, and when I get wet, get the lick in this pussy. I know that's right. Do you ever look at some of the songs? Because I know we talk about this all the time, because obviously we're not artists, But sometimes I look back on like maybe pictures I posted and I'm like, oh my God, why did I do that? Yeah. You ever look back on lyrics like, oh my God, why did I say that? Mm-mm. Never? You don't have not one. No. No, that's right. She said I'm staying beside it. Yeah, I wouldn't change nothing that I ever did in my life because it's gotten me to where I am now. It's kind of like the movie Back to the Future. Yeah. You change one thing you might not be where you at now Yeah I don regret anything Mm You know what I saying I just grateful for all the blessings and all the experiences I had in life And that what got me here where I at today I love it. Whether it's prison, whether it's hitting somebody in the head with a bottle, whether it's so many different things that I've been through. You know what I'm saying? It's a lesson to be learned in all of it. And I think I learned a lot of lessons. And I'm wiser. And I'm who I am. Like, I'm here now. Some people ain't here no more. It's true of us to still be here Being seen and not viewed Yes, I love that And you know what, I love the way Tyree Screamed his name at the beginning of your song Tyree He was letting me know he was in the motherfucking field You know what I'm saying He had to let him know I'm here Are you here And real quick I do want to ask you this Because I feel like The women in rap right now have taken over I feel like the girls are just doing a big one How do you feel about the state of rap right now with women i love it i love the fact that women are doing their thing it's about damn time yeah i think it's enough room for everybody like it's enough money to be made for everybody and i just commend everybody for doing their thing no matter how the fuck you rap how the fuck you look i support all the women doing their thing 100 love it who's your favorite right now oh my god i don't know if i have a favorite i love cardi b i love meg the stallion i wish people wouldn't beef i love Lotto. I wish the women wouldn't beef though. I love, you know, Missy Elliott. I love Lil' Kim. I love, I love every fucking mind. Like, I'm a unity type chick when it comes to female rappers. You know what I'm saying? And I just wish we wouldn't beef because it's a, you know what I'm saying? It's enough to go around for everybody. Agreed. I agree. And I know beef is part of hip-hop and all of that, but I just wish the bitches wouldn't do it. Yeah. Because I feel like girls, they can make it real nasty and catty. They do. It can get bad. It gets real like that. And I feel like next in the day, more women got along and they used to collaborate more like like ladies that's what i was gonna say oh my god we had a 2026 version i tried these don't want to get together come on y'all got to do it that was my song they don't want to get together they want to charge a hundred thousand to do a verse and you know i tried oh damn i'll do it i ain't gonna beg no where's the camaraderie yeah damn that was such a good video it was like i just see him mary was in the back yes Having the time for her life, man. Rest in peace, the left eye. Oh, my God. What a time. Yep. I love it. Okay, so now it's time to get into the bed. Bow. The bed. Bow. Bow. Bow. Bow. Bow, bow, bow. Are you ready to get into the bed? Okay. Well, y'all know the bed is sponsored by Sodexo. This is our favorite brand. Y'all know we always raving about this coochie wash. It's going to get the job. done okay she gonna smell and taste like it ate a peppermint you know what i'm saying and i like my slippery m gets the job done okay so the bad topic is you know we have a sex topic every week that we like to discuss okay and um we wanted to talk about does body count matter in a lesbian relationship like is that something that y'all be like discussing like oh because i feel like i don't think men do it like now, but in my college days, I feel like that was like a thing. How many people have you slept with? And when I think about that now, that is such a weird question to ask. So is that something that happens in, you know, in the world of dating women? When do you start counting, though? Your own bodies? Do you count? I used to keep a count. It started getting too high. But I deleted it, just in case somebody hacked my phone. Wow, a list. I had a list too. You gotta keep it up. Yeah but I was young at the time Did you have the list? Yeah It wasn't long But it was like Okay I wrote the person Yeah And it's not like You was trying to add to it It was just like It's like a secret Sacred thing But then it just was like This shit don't fucking matter Yeah I was that way too And then even visiting The list again I was like Ew Some of them I looked I said who Now who is this? Yeah I don't remember that That's not ringing a bell Right You know what I mean? But like I said Being older now Like if I was dating I would never, I would think that was such a weird question to ask. But I think men in no shade are really, like, slow when it comes to that because they be like, oh, that thing stretched out. She done had, it's a hot dog in the hallway. They love saying things like that. Is that, like, a conversation that women have in dating, like, ever? Oh, not us. Yeah, I ain't never had that conversation. Yeah, not us. I don't give a fuck who you used to date. Mm-hmm. As long as they don't try to come back. yeah i don't i don't care because everybody got a past yeah you know we all are grown-ups now and we we did what we did and we are who we are because of the mistakes we did and didn't make and and and it is what it is like i ain't gonna be like oh you slept with 50 11 people i don't want you no more no like whatever she did in the past or i did in the past like we love each other now yeah and we're here for each other now and support each other now so i don't think I don't think that should matter. You know what's crazy? We've never even had this conversation. Never. Really? Never. Oh, wow. Never. But see, do you feel like... I can't lie. In the beginning, I was like, I wonder if she gonna ask me all of these random ass questions that people be asking. Never did. Never did. But would you feel like you had this... That's a mature relationship, though. Being that y'all are both in the industry, would you feel like, oh, I know Brett used to talk to this girl and I used to date her. Would y'all feel like you would have to tell your partner if you dated somebody that they knew? Like, did y'all ever date somebody that, like, y'all was cool with? Well, so we've had pillow talk, pillow talk, that might be conversation, but it's not like, you know, it's not like... Who did you date back in the day? Yeah. Did you date somebody in the industry? Like, she would tell me about people that may have flirted with her or whatever, and it's like, okay, like... But it's so crazy, because men, especially in the industry, are like that. Who, man, let me know, because I don't want to be in niggas' faces, knowing that you... Yeah, they are like that. Now, I will say to this day, they may not do body count, but they want to know if they're in the industry, they want to know every industry man you have ever even texted. I wouldn't even tell them. I wouldn't even tell them. It's not chubby. What? That's right. They are very much like that. You wasn't around and ain't got shit. And the crazy part is half of them probably done been with every damn body. Exactly. Probably. How the fuck is it fair that if it's 30 people, you done hit all 30, but you don't want me to have talked to fucking one. Yeah. It's unrealistic for real. It's a huge double standard. It's very strange. But I don't know. Circling back to the topic, I definitely, when I was younger, because I used to date girls when I was younger, and I definitely used to feel like the girls I slept with didn't count. You don't know how could your body count? I'm going to lie. When you're dating a nigga, they don't care for someone. They don't. They don't count it. No. When you date niggas, they didn't count. like the women, it was just like, oh, whatever. Yeah. That is so crazy. That bitch will take your bitch. Some niggas even let you date the woman on the side if it didn't communicate it. That's true. Because they had shit going on on the side. But I think sometimes... I think it's like a little sick little fantasy that they have too. See? I be feeling like men let their woman that they're dating talk to other women because they be hoping like he can come along one day. Y'all gonna include him playing on it. It's not like, Oh, be free because as soon as she say I want some other dick, he going, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. You know what I'm saying? So they like to let that line be very, very gray. Yeah. I also think women, we're just way less judgmental about those type of things that men are. So why don't you count women as a body? I don't know. I guess I just didn't feel like it was the same thing. It don't count. So I didn't count it. You don't count women as a body? Well, I'm saying if you date men now. Yeah. That don't count against women. I did it back then. It don't count against women. Men. I need to start dating women. How many people use that? None. None. If it's the other sex, it don't count. How that don't count, though? I don't get how that don't count. I don't know. I was young. I don't know. I think that's a young girl. Is it because of the penetration part? I think that's what it was for me. I was like, okay, like, I'm not being penetrated, so maybe you don't. But you're still coming. That's true. But I don't know. I didn't used to look at it like that. I really didn't. I used to like. I didn't kind of feel you on that. I don't know why. You know, they say your body count start over every year anyway. On the first. On the first. I like that. Every year? Every year. Now we talking. Okay. New year, no bodies. Yes. What we got next, Drea? Okay, now it's time to get into the bow. The bow. Bow. Bow. We almost done. Wrap this shit up, bitch. Wrap it up. Okay, so Bop of the Week is whatever music that we've been listening to. It can be new, old, whatever you've been, you know, listening to when you jamming, working out, whatever, okay? So y'all know I'm an R&B girly. I love when I discover new artists. This is an artist. His name is Oso, and he has a song called All About You. Are y'all R&B people? Mm-hmm. This is like the kind of song you can like, this would be a perfect song for y'all because it's like All About You. I'm in love. This is my man, my man, my woman, my woman, whatever. It's that kind of song like on a Sunday when you cleaning up the house and you just want to listen to and vibe. And y'all are in y'all's beautiful home with your big shiny diamonds. I see it's getting chilly. You know what I'm saying? So this is just like a cute love song. You know, love is in the air. We love February, March. It's like love is in the air. So also, All About You, that's my bop of the week. What y'all been listening to? Ooh. It don't have to be new. Yeah, it don't have to be new. Honestly, it's a lot of kiddie songs. Okay. So we're listening to Super Simple Song Leapfrog right now. He gets super excited about this song. So it's something that we have on repeat in the house. Okay. Yeah. And we all fall down. Ooh. Yeah. She excited because now he does the action. Aw, that's so cute. I get it, though, because the hot dog from the Mickey Mouse Club. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. Ooh, Lord, my nephews. I said enough is enough. to turn on some goddamn And Miss Rachel Miss Rachel Oh yeah Does he like Gracie's Corner? Yeah Okay Alright then Gracie be having them hits too And Blue You know what? Gracie be having a bop She do Gracie be having a bop Yes You be wanting to play it in your car Yes Especially that What sound does that matter, man? I'm like What sound does that matter, man? That is funny Okay, I can deal with a little Gracie's Corner I can do that Yeah Mm-hmm Drea I haven't really been listening to anything new these days. Nothing new? Not, like, for the past week or two, because I feel like, no, at least not for me, no good new music has really been coming out. But Ladies Night was a vibe, so this is going to be my vibe today. Okay. Ladies Night, what? Because that was a good song, and I forgot about that song until we was just talking about it. Yeah. And shout out to Angie. That was when, like, videos were, like, a big thing on, like, MTV. When that song would come on, you would hear that dice shaking. Yes. Time to run to the middle. Yes. You can do it. Yeah. That was the, I mean, it was such a fun video. Did y'all have fun? We did. It was fun. Yes, we did. Never forget it. We had a great time. I love that. I remember I was just like, oh, my God, I want to be there. Everybody was there. Everybody. It was. Everybody was in that video. Y'all, I love me some Missy Elliott, too. Yeah. A legend. All right, we're going to get into our favorite segment. It's the last one, girl. It's the last one. We here. Now, y'all give good advice. I know. Y'all do give good advice, yes? This is the advice called? I think y'all. Okay. So this is a Pour Your Heart Out segment. You know, if you want your question answered on the show, make sure you email us at askpoorminds at gmail.com. All right, here we go. Hey, Lex and Drea. I really love this show, and I just wanted to ask you guys what you guys think about relationships at 18 and being apart at college. I'm not worried about any cheating, but sometimes I want to talk every day, but it just seems like he has so much going on to where he doesn't always take initiative to communicate as much as I feel like he should. Because to me, it doesn't take long to send a small text. Granted, I do text first sometimes, but the other times I don't, on purpose to see if he's gonna say anything. I do give grace and I don't wanna put a lot of pressure on him, so I'll fall back at times, but I don't know what to do overall. He is a sweet person and does express his love for me, but I'm not entirely sure if that's enough. Also we've been with each other for 10 months now And he's never given me flowers And I don't like that Is this a good time thing because we're young Or something else Girl We in college We going buck wilder that motherfucker Yeah I don't know I feel like college relationships Especially when y'all don't go to the same school It's a little difficult I cheated on my college school Same same we was dating in high school and I went to college and he was still in Houston and I definitely cheated on him and then we broke up shortly after because I mean it's just difficult when you're not in the same city anymore and you in school they not so y'all are just living completely different lives yeah yeah and then they so young they have so much life in front of them but I know at that age we didn't want to hear that yeah we didn't you know but it's and yeah girl he doing his thing yeah and I think you should do your thing yeah right I feel like those are the years where you really discover what you like as a woman, what you want to do with your career. There's so many things that you need to be focused on outside of a relationship. Because I feel like when I was in college, I feel like society told us, okay, college is where you find your husband and you settle down. By the time you graduate, y'all are supposed to get married and have kids. And it's just like, no. I don't want to focus on how to be a wife. I want to learn things and be a boss and figure out what I want to do with my life. And later on, you're not going to even be attracted to the same type of person that you are at 18. at 28. That's true. You know? So, girl, don't stress yourself out. Enjoy college. Because once you get out, shit gets real. Yeah. Hello. It gets too real, chit. These are good, good years. Y'all have a real responsibility. None. Right. All right, y'all. Bottled up, if you have something in your chest, send us a 30 to 60 second little voicemail and we might play it on the show. Go ahead, Morgan. I'm starting to think that the women are the problem. And it's not the men. We see all these podcasts, all these relationship advice all this shit but i am at the point where i believe that men are just simply hurt because men are men do not let go of shit like we do we're hopeless romantics men are not right so i think all these men that are fucking up out here and hurting women they're just doing it out of hurt and we need to have a real come to jesus and on these podcasts stop bashing each other but just come to a consensus that we both need grace we both need space to heal and to deal and to really like shape back and love each other because it's just a battle of the black family and we already got enough against us including Trump and Venezuela and all the bullshit. Amen. But as for me, I got some work. No, I do agree with that but I do think that's an excuse. That hurt people hurt people. No, you go work on yourself before you out here terrorizing motherfuckers. So, I do think that people deserve grace but I'm not giving you grace if you're going around terrorizing women just because somebody didn't want to give you their crayons in kindergarten yeah go heal and go to therapy right you know what i'm saying so uh why is it all out why is it always our responsibility you know what i'm saying why is it always back on the women that we gotta we have to just shut we always gotta get people no because i do think when women when we're hurt we don't take it out on the world we don't do that we deal with it internally and we figure it out we lean on our girlfriends we lean on our family. But we talk to Carrie that at very early age. Yeah. Like, we're talk to Carrie. Yeah. So, we supposed to be healers. Yeah, no. I'm not healing no nigga. Especially no grown ass nigga. I agree. I agree. Mm-hmm. So let everybody know where they can find the bud. What's going on with Kaleidoscope? What's going on? Let's let everybody know. 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