Can Vegas Win The Cup With Rasmus Andersson?

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all you did? No I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice. Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guinesses. We're ending to you guys and us. That's where this podcast came to life. ICE is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. You can see that we are remote because it is a holiday folks. It's a holiday here in the states but as always I am your host Dan Powers. And on the sticks this man makes this show run like forest gump Sean Bafini and this man over here makes this show go off the rails like the train in the fugitive Chris Powers. How are we doing boys? As always. Couple trains. Couple running trains. Forest gump running. I guess he's not a train. Does he ever take a train in that movie? He probably does even if it's not on screen. I think you as a betting man you would say forest gump. How are we getting around? He's on a train at some point I am sure. I mean the man was in the war. You've got to be on trains. You fuck with the war? Sean do you like trains? I'm a big train guy. I got this is the Southern California train museum shirt on right here. I need the people at home to know that I did not see that shirt on Sean before I started making train comparisons. It tickles a certain part of the tism for me. The museum Sean that must have been nice. The museum was sick. They have all the street cars they took off of LA. They're all there. Right around on the Santa Monica street. If trains were more readily available in the United States even if it meant the time for me to get to my destinations was doubled or more I would take trains. I think trains are so fun. But you mean like old school trains though? No. Any train. I love trains now. I feel like we've had a couple of chances to take trains from New York to Boston and we're like that would be a disaster. I have done the train from New York to Boston and it's great. The only issue is that it's as expensive as a plane. It's frustrating. Yeah and it's the greatest nation on earth. Why are trains so slow? Why are trains slow and expensive? It's like we got to get better. But hey we're not badmouthing trains here. We love trains. We need more trains. It better not be. Alright lots to talk about in this episode. We're going to jump right into hot ice because we had a big weekend of news and spicy things going on. Rasmus Anderson. Possibly the number one defenseman trade target going into this season. He has finally been moved and it went to a familiar name. Although it didn't look like it at first. Rasmus Anderson traded to the Vegas Golden Knights. 50% salary retained. Go in the other way. We got Zach White Cloud. We got Prospect. Abram Webe. A 20-27 conditional first round pick. A 20-28 conditional second round pick. Unbelievable deal. Vegas yet again gets their guy. And CP I don't know if you're aware of this from 2017 to 2026. Vegas has traded all but one of their first round pick. Or excuse me to 2027 because this was a 2027 first round pick. They have traded all but one of their first round picks. And you know what? Vegas is a contender every single year. Don't know how many times we need to say this to fans. Trading your first round pick for certified good players is the same thing as using your first round pick. Stop overvaluing first round picks. Know that it is OK and smart to use them for players who are established NHL talent. It is the same thing if not smarter because you know the player is already good in the NHL. And I will add that it's late picks because you're good. So the scouting is so good now that these top top end prospects are rarely missing. Rarely. But the back end of the first round is a total crapshoot. Not total crapshoot but you know you're you're it's going to be something down the road. And it's incredibly helpful if you have young stud NHL players on tiny tiny contracts and doing what Vegas does requires you to get really creative and be very cutthroat. Move on from a Logan Thompson move on from a Jonathan Marshall so where you're like hey we can't afford you because of this and that and this move. But but as long as you're willing to Bob and we've like that and it hasn't really hurt the culture at all right like I don't think players know Vegas is cutthroat but they're not like I don't want to play there. They do want to play there because they go it's fucking cutthroat and they compete for ships. So you got to know that's what you're going into. But man it must be so fucking fun as a Vegas fan not to ricochet anybody but just to use a topical example. How much have we heard from wings fans over the last few years of like God we don't do anything you know like make a fucking move Vegas fans. Like every year it's like every fucking haymaker are we going to throw down on somebody to make sure we're in the mix for a cup and then it comes it comes every time. It's unbelievable man it's unbelievable it's a good deal it doesn't come with an extension which is which is the you know concern. But at the same time like you just said Chris you know if anyone is curious if people want to play in Vegas. Jack Eichel makes it was the captain of Buffalo you know gets a move going goes to Vegas extends in Vegas Mitch Marner chooses Vegas Noah Hanna been chooses Vegas to Mosh hurdle chooses Vegas everyone wants to go and stay there and let's remind people this summer end of last year. Vegas was always coming up with Rasmus Anderson this is a top defenseman in the NHL a Swedish guy who is choosing Las Vegas to play in and I mean what would make us think that he's not going to extend. We'll see what happens if he hits free agency. Sure maybe but it's like this was a team that was always coming up for Anderson and then this is the trade that they agreed upon. It's you know it's not surprising and it makes you be like yeah okay this is probably where he's just going to end up and go. So let's let's talk the misses real quick. Yes let's talk the misses there's really only two that I want to bring up people want to talk about Toronto being in the mix they want to talk about Detroit this that and the other really from what we're hearing and believe it or not folks we do. Have sources. The only teams that were really in the mix other than Vegas was Dallas and Boston Dallas was definitely in the mix and they were kicking tires this was a player that fits with their group and it does look like defense being boistered up in Dallas is something that they care about. Boston was the big one though there was you know you heard us talking about it you heard Elliott Friedman talking about it very very heavily. There was a deal in place with Calgary and Boston. Rasmus Anderson was very aware of it both GM's were talking the deal involved the Toronto first round pick that Boston has it involved Mason Lory and their discussions that it also might have involved Matt Patra whether immediately or later. The deal in place then allowed Rasmus Anderson to talk to Boston and talk about an extension because that was important to Boston they were only making this deal. If Anderson was going to sign the deal was looking like eight years by 7.9 or 8 million a year would have given Boston arguably if not certainly the best top four in the NHL. In my opinion if you have McAvoy Rasmus Anderson Hampus Lendholm and Nikita Zadorov in your top four locked up long term that is unbelievable. Feeling very very good. Now the deal fell apart whether it be Conroy got a little greedy asked for more and it made Sweeney a little bashful didn't want to do it whether it be Anderson not wanting to extend in Boston either way kind of at the one yard line the deal falls apart Vegas is able to jump back in and make it. And again no extension but they get their guy as they fucking always do. Oh dude and you're right it's always going to go that way as a Bruins fan. I when the when I first heard the smoke I was like oh wow that would be crazy because it is great player and it's time for the Bruins where I personally have said a few times I don't think I need to be a massive buyer here. I don't need to push for playoffs here I am completely comfortable as a Bruins fan of missing playoffs this year and continuing to build and keep going. But if you have a chance to get a guy like Rasmus Anderson and and everybody's happy with it then like you just said why not lock up that incredible top four on defense. Once the package came out I am kind of sitting here happy it didn't go through and I don't know how you feel and I'm not saying I'd be mad if it went through I'd be like OK we got a great player and whatever but I'm kind of pleased that I because again I'm not a big we need to make playoffs this year what the fuck guy. Yeah so I'm like all good I'm OK how do you feel. I have a lot to say about Boston. I called when we talked about this I sort of tweeted out and I was like Boston was unexpected for me. I think coming into this year everyone was curious about what Boston would and could do and then going after a guy like Rasmus Anderson feels like a win now. Oh yeah. So I was like fucking right Sweeney and listen man I have been very open about my criticisms of Don Sweeney over the last few years and I stand by every single one of them. But I also stand by everything that I've said in the last 10 months with Don Sweeney. I think he's got a plan. I think as much as the March and Carlo and coil trades and like that hurt every Boston Bruins fan. Look at where you are now. Yes. Look at look at guys like Fraser Minton and how well he's playing. You everyone is stroking themselves to this Toronto first round pick. You don't have that without those moves by Sweeney and it's like I think the vision is actually pretty interesting. So and I'm also going to give him a ton of respect for you know being aggressive here and wanting to make a move and it sounds like for Boston fans if anyone's upset that this trade fell through. They're not done like they're moving on to the next option here. I think that they are looking for the future and they're also looking for right now because the East is wide open. I am a massive Mason Lora I believe he is a he's a friend. I'll be honest with that. But at the same time like I love this kid's game. The fact that Mason is a 25 year old 6 foot 5 left shot D man who moves the way that he does and has the hands that he does. I think he's a special player. You got him at 3.2 mil for this year and next year. So I'm not sad that Mason didn't leave the Bruins if I'm a Bruins fan. I think he I think the the defensive side of his game is what he needs to work on if there's anything he needs to work on and I think I know that he knows that and is working on that. So yeah man this is a trade that falls through that you're that you're like shit but you're also like well that means we get to keep mace that's that's great. So I think it would have been a great move man. I mean it's like there's a there's a big Swedish contingency in Boston now adding Rasmus he would have fit in great. I think he would love would have loved Boston and I think he would have done very well in Boston. So it's one of those ones where as a Boston fan I think you should say shit that would have been cool. And also man if you get 29 year old Rasmus Anderson at 8 by 8 that's a good fucking deal. So I I I don't think you should be devastated either way here. I suppose is my answer. I could have I could have made myself happy either way but I guess I'm not devastated. I feel glad usually when your team is this close to a huge trade and there's even reports that it's through and then it goes away. You're like oh my fucking God dude. We can never have nice things and I am happy that I don't have that level of devastation right now. So that's good. On the Vegas side dude Pacific's a nightmare. We've been joking about that all season. Vegas looks like the best team. Jack's been incredible. Marner's been very good. Right. Like I wouldn't say Marner's been incredible because you had such high hopes agree by pairing him with Jack but Marner's been very good. Yeah. And you've survived a lot of goalie issues and are still you know bumping around first in the Pacific. But we had said preseason that Vegas was a was a popular Stanley Cup pick after the Marner pick up over the summer popular popular pick. And I was just like I don't know how you win the cup with losing Patrangelo. I don't think you can I don't think you can win this cup losing Patrangelo and with this current team. I think this current team is very good. You make playoffs and then that's it. And Patrangelo and Anderson are different players. But is Anderson the bolster on the blue line that maybe we felt like Vegas was missing that actually puts them back in this conversation of Vegas is a machine a well oiled machine at every level and they can now win the cup. Yes he is in my opinion. Yeah. People forget man it's we always talk about it on this show how important the right shot left shot is on D and it's like it's funny. It's one of those funny things where we're like I don't get this. Why is this so important but it is so important and right shot D is rare. It bizarrely in the league which is just so embarrassing that I'm not in the league. What the fuck but yeah it goes in waves but Alex Patrangelo is a right shot D and that is a massive loss and Rasmus Anderson is a right shot D. So it's like you just added I mean frankly Chris you know it's like you you have your first line right shot D now on this team. So it's huge but with Vegas everything to me comes back to goalie. I it feels like Vegas feels confident about whether it's Hill or Hart coming back which is frankly shocking to me. I don't know how they can be confident at all because because the injuries and the inconsistency has been so prevalent that I'm like I don't know how you're you're confident about any of this. But I mean this is a this was their move they make a move every season and this was their move that's like yep here we here we go that is our big move it might be the biggest move of the season and the deadline. But I mean shit it's you're you're pumped right now if you're Vegas. But they did it now Dan you know like I'm sure there was conversations and deadline and stuff it's like bro get them in get get situated get comfortable with the team and the system and everything so we can really go because post Olympics into trade deadline is going to be such an insane sprint to the playoffs and that can be chaotic. This this was genius dude this was you don't get swooped this was awesome. It's massive. Another massive move Matthew Kachuk is back tonight. You can check it's officially back tonight Monday the 19th is playing against the sharks. Yeah. Matthew Kachuk back in the lineup. So that is that is one of the pieces one of the biggest pieces that we keep talking about with this Florida Panthers team and actually it's come up a bunch recently with Florida Panthers fans I keep saying it every single week and CP you wrote it down but yeah with the injuries to this team you had Kachuk Barkov Kulakov Gadjevic Noc Nocic Seth Jones and now Marcy is day to day as well. But here you go one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle Matthew Kachuk he's back he's back before Olympics which means he's going to get you know a good sample of games in here to get back in the rhythm then he'll get going with Team USA and now you're back on the team and here's the big thing man everyone keeps talking about playoffs. Everyone keeps talking about the standings how things are changing where teams are this that and the other and every fucking Sunday when we're doing hockey talk we get people going should I be worried about the Panthers are the Panthers cooked this that and the other the Florida Panthers are four points for out of a wildcard spot and they just got back to the top two forwards and now Matthew Kachuk and they're going to get back these other guys this team is exactly where we said at the beginning of season when Barkov went down as well we went literally all they need to do is survive. Now you're one of your top two forwards is back. I do think that they are completely fine. But I wonder if you could get them in a interrogation room to tell the tell the tell the truth tell the truth. If you could get them to tell the truth. I think they would go. Matthew came back a little bit. Tiny bit later than we thought slash hoped and we are a little bit lower than I thought and we hoped I think they were going we are the clear one seed if healthy which we're not so we will probably be not even the two not even the three but we will be a little bit like bumbling around as the wildcard team and then we get the boys back we're going to make a real push for it and now they are currently in a and it's only four points that's why I agree we do they're completely fine but I do think they're like we got a little we got a little work to do you know and of course obviously they would go in a perfect world we're just in playoff still we're fine yeah but again it's you know the big ones were kachuk was out bar barcob then was out you didn't anticipate all of these other ones dude it's like oh no getting it was insane gadget getting hurt suck set jones getting hurt is brutal now marshy it's they've they've had even more than they expect or than they knew and they're still right here so I certainly they know they have work to do but I think if I'm this team I'm laughing dude I I'm like yeah man we're fine but at the same time you can't say that and then fuck up and you know continue to slip but this is the first step we always knew these these steps were coming in terms of guys coming back into the lineup and getting Matthew Kachuk back is huge and and frankly I think what's funny with him is you could make the argument because he plays so hard and he's always fucking injuring himself because he's so intense that you don't want Olympics but in this circumstance since he hasn't played all year and Olympics isn't as you know with IHF it's not as visible there's no fighting I am if I'm a Panthers fan I love that Olympics is coming up for this guy because he's just going to go out there and get to wheel around and get back in the rhythm so I think that this is and frankly for everyone else in the east it's the most terrifying thing in the world as we said last week Tampa Bay Lightning are absolutely firing but if you're the Tampa Bay Lightning and you're looking at the fact that you're top of the Atlantic and there's a chance that the Florida Panthers are going to get the second wild card and you see them in the first round you are crying you're crying yourself to sleep. What do you need from Matthew rest of the way there's thirty-thirty five games left for the Panthers. I am going to be harsh I need a point per game. I think so too. Matthew Kachuk is a he's a 100 point a season type of player he is a heartbeat type of guy I don't I don't necessarily need him to do that right off the rip I don't need him in this I don't need him tonight to have a goal and assist but I need him to buy game 10 be. In in in a rhythm and I think he wants it man like he hasn't played hockey since lifting the Stanley Cup I think he needs to get back in rhythm because he's not a guy who looks at their two Stanley Cops and is like I'm chilling no he wants to win every single day he wants to win a gold medal in February so yeah I need him to be point per game. No he's been over he's been over point per game the last four years. Four years and three years ago way over and then the last two barely over but I think that's right dude I think I might need like. You know even more I'm like especially with some of these guys out bark off out I'm like dude you got to step up these are times when you got to be the guy you got to be Matthew Kachuk the guy we wanted. 100% come do it. Okay one last topic in hot ice that I wrote down given this discussion we are close to 50 games through the season I have no idea how that has happened we're about to head to Olympics here but we got you know 35 or so games left in the season and we're starting to see the shape of the playoff picture who. CP because there are a lot of surprises this year if you're looking at the standing is right now there are a lot of big big surprises who in the east and the west are teams that are cannot miss playoffs for you. And I'll give you an example of this discussion so I'm looking at the east right now you look at the bottom of the standings. I see a team like the New York Rangers for example who are in last place in the east. I do not consider them a cannot miss I actually think the Rangers at the beginning of the season I picked them to miss the playoffs and I said that that is a good thing because I think the retool is here it needs to happen it needs to start going. So I actually am not looking at the Rangers being like shame on you you can't admit I'm like no that's okay you're in a space where you can miss the Philadelphia Flyers I know they've been up and down they've been in playoffs out of class. They miss the playoffs I don't think that that's sound the alarms you cannot miss but there are teams where I'm like yikes you missing playoffs is a bad look and I'm curious what your picks are in that topic. Should I include the Red Wings or do you do we just we both think they're going to make it but like they're just so absolutely I mean like they are securely in second place in the Atlantic right now but yeah if you want to include them you can include them here. Here's my entire list of teams where I go if you miss this is fucked because like something bad has happened. My name is my list is Detroit. Toronto. Washington. I'm going to say Florida. Yeah I agree 100% agree. And. I got to say the devils too I think. But that's okay for me that's that's my entire list for the East for me. Okay I'm going to I agree with all of those. Okay I didn't know if you were going to include the devils. Oh dude the devils are you the devils should be winning the Metro like it they the devils missing playoffs is a catastrophe and frankly when I look at this team they're barely above 500. They're 22 gold differential the Dallas or excuse me the New Jersey devils being this bad is inexcusable it's utterly inexcusable and I'm like so many heads needs to need to roll on this team if they if they miss playoffs. I'm talking I'm going Elyn Payne executioner I am lob I am lopping heads off like you wouldn't believe on this team if they miss playoffs. And I'm talking trades to like I would blow this team up if they miss playoffs this is insane. So the devils for sure are in there. You didn't say Boston and Buffalo and I agree and it's funny because they're playing they're both playing so well yeah I mean yeah I've got like a 606. Point percentage like they're they're buzzing right now yeah but you didn't include so I agree with those. You include you agree to not include them. Yes but like barely you did not include Montreal which shocks me because Montreal you know playoff team last year and in a first round a match up against Washington a lot of Montreal fans are like we should win this match. I think with how good that they've been from the very start of the season with the situation they have with trades that they can make and the state of the Atlantic the state of the East then if somehow they slip out and they miss playoffs that is unacceptable. Yeah I think I was like they I kind of peg them for like a minute it would be bad it would be bad but I was like yeah like they'll survive basically if they miss playoffs this year they're going to go fuck and then you know be OK. I'm not going to be unacceptable and one that is slightly less unacceptable but one that I'm also kind of being like guys I think the Ottawa Senators. I think that it is crazy that we are letting this team off the hook and you especially because you are such a Senators guy just bang in the drum of how good this team is and I think it is crazy that none of us in the media are giving them shit because I am I am blown away with how mediocre this Senators team has been and everyone is just being like whatever what you're right about is it was like this earlier to like all hell's broken loose now so like that's kind of I didn't say anything but the but they were they were flirting with missing playoffs all year. So that is that is a fair take and correct because we they were they were like we're going to beat the Leafs last year you know and now I'm like did you go did you fall back into nothingness again. Like God that is unacceptable. It's crazy. All right let's get to the West. Any teams in the West that you think cannot miss playoffs. And again like on the in the East I didn't even say to Tampa and Carolina because I'm like they're making it you know. Yeah those teams I'm ignoring because I'm like I assume you are absolutely and obviously making play right. So I would say you cannot miss the playoffs. And this one's a little tricky actually because everyone that is going to miss I'm kind of like that's OK. You cannot miss. This is probably harsh because they're going to miss. But you cannot miss if you're the Jets and you cannot miss playoffs if you're the Kings. And that maybe is it Utah and Anaheim I almost said. I'm going to go up and say Edmonton. No sure. But to your point I don't think and I never thought that was ever in question but obviously you cannot miss playoffs if you're Edmonton but they're they're fine. They're in playoffs. The big ones to me are the Jets. The Jets. This is unbelievable. What's currently happening. And if you miss playoffs I think that that is astounding. And I actually have really loved the spin zone Jets fans are trying to do. They're being like no dude this is always the plan. We're going to go get Gavin McKenna and blah blah. I'm just like OK. I don't think that was always the plan guys but preseason everyone said this. Hell yeah. We picked the Canucks to miss playoffs but what is going on with this team is insane. Yeah. I you know I don't want to I don't want to harp on the Canucks but we all just conveniently forget that it was what three years ago two years ago when they were the best team in the league. And now we just have two years in a row where they're they're just so bad and they've traded away their captain and now people are being like and now we're going to trade away Pederson. We've got to trade away. And I'm like what what happened guys. But I do think you're right. The big ones are the Jets and the Kings and I don't think the Kings situation is getting talked about enough. It's interesting when we talk about the Pacific. You've got Seattle San Jose and the Kings really in that last Pacific spot if we're being honest. And if you let the Seattle Kraken get into the playoffs over if you're the ducks or the Kings frankly and what's crazy is I want to put the sharks in there now. I think preseason I never thought the sharks would be this good but now that you are this good. I think you have to it will Smith is back in the lineup you have to have a conversation about that third Pacific spot is so up for grabs. But if you are the L.A. Kings and you have the talent you have on this team and it's Copes last year where he has announced his retirement. Yeah. And you are letting what is happening currently happen and doing nothing about it. You it is inexcusable. And the quick rant on the Kings will be I've been saying this I believe firmly that the tools to this team success are in the locker room and they're being misused. I feel passionate about that. And I think you can see it. I think you can see the frustration on the players faces with how things are going and how they're being used and also this no one's talking about this man. In going into the season so many people had all these questions about the Kings defense. Dude every game goes to overtime and they go and the Kings can't score. Well I got news for you if the Kings can't score and you're going to overtime every game. It means you're not giving up a lot of goals. Yep. Which means Darcy Kemper is a Vesna caliber goalie yet again means your defense is playing incredible. So something needs to change. Fifth least amount of goals given up in the league. Yes. Something needs to change with your team. And I don't think it's the players. And frankly the fact that you have waited till game 48 of the season before doing anything about it is fucking mental to me by the management. So totally with you there is a given how open that third spot in the Pacific is it is ridiculous. And honestly man the you look at the top I know that the abs are such an outlier but like 74 points for the abs 63 and 63 for Dallas and Minnesota the top of the Pacific is only 60. And then after that it's 58 with Edmonton and Edmonton has two games. That's the wild card in the East like the sabers have 58 seven I think. Yeah. So it's like guys the Pacific is there for you to get into the playoffs and to be doing what you're doing is inexcusable. I completely agree. Yeah. That might be the my biggest one in the league. Like if you go if you combine and you're like who cannot miss like them or the Leafs I guess you know it's like yeah the Leafs would be insane. Yeah. You're you're you're being you're being way too easy on the devils again dude like yeah it's ridiculous. All right. That's it for hot ice. Let's do a quick ad break and then jump on into some other stuff. All right everybody every single Tuesday of the NHL season bet MGM our favorite partners are dishing out extra winnings and how do you get extra winnings Chris. That sounds sick. I would like those well use the NHL odds boost token. All right. So to get in on that fun you just log into your bet MGM account and you add any NHL bet to your bet slip. It can be a goal score or a money line whatever you feel like and then you just activate the NHL odds boost token. And then if your boosted bet hits you get an even bigger pay out than you would have that is sick. That does sound sick. 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Sherwood is such a classic great name like middle six guy gritty guy does it all. He was always getting moved. Love that he's moved to the sharks because that is the sharks given what we just talked about identifying. There's a massive opening to get into playoffs here. Sherwood helps you. Love that they're making moves and they didn't give up too much and making them now right. Just like we were talking about with Anderson dude like go. Let's go to wait till March. Let's do it. Yep. Unbelievable. OK CP netters college puck drop. Let's get it going. Talk to me about what happened last weekend in the college game. Well we had our game of the week highlighted last week was number four Michigan State going to number two Wisconsin absolute tilt and we had Michigan State take care of business beat them for three on Friday and four one on Saturday. Wisconsin had some epic wins earlier this year and they deserved their ranking but we always did feel like Michigan State was lurking right like they've at times looked like the absolute class of college hockey. Monster weekend and I'm not saying they're taking the top spot but I am saying wins like this make me feel like they are actually the best team. Yeah I hear you. Like you know it's it's hard to hard to argue with that. And I hate to say it because obviously I'm a Michigan. Number 14 Providence went to 12 BC on Friday they beat them for three and O.T. and then hosted them on Saturday and beat them for three in regulation. Hate to see that for the Eagles. That's a monster monster result for Providence. That's going to be a big switch. Unbelievable stuff. And then my boys Michigan went to Minnesota they won five one on Friday and three two in O.T. on Saturday but a big two win game against a tough tough team for Michigan. They're the best team in the country. They will remain the best team. They had Minnesota had such a great surge right before the holidays and I am them in Arizona State and I was being like man they're going to save their season. I am and you know losing to the number one team in the country is not a bad thing but I feel as though this is the nail in the coffin for Minnesota just because it's like you needed to steal some of these you needed some of these huge upset wins to prove that you're an at large team even though you stunk for long stretches so this that's tricky for me. But fuck good good good good good weekend though good weekend. Now OK a little bit of kind of like round robin e chaos action 13 Cornell had 18 Princeton in town for an ID battle Cornell won that game to one on Friday then Cornell hosted number seven Quinnipiac on Saturday and lost for one Quinnipiac wagon Princeton lost to nothing to Colgate on Saturday so it's actually really tough weekend for the Tigers. We can put a beat Colgate 5 1 on Friday so good good weekend for them including that great great win over Cornell. Yeah and you're absolutely right you've been saying it all year Quinnipiac is a very very very good program. Number eight Penn State we've been giving Penn State a lot of grief saying that you know they got to figure stuff out here had all the hype going into the season. Well they beat Notre Dame at home for one on Friday and six three on Saturday McKenna had five points over the weekend and two goals on Saturday so we gave McKenna a little bit of a kick in the ass. And there you go he gets two goals he hadn't been popping the net puck in the net too often but two on Saturday a five point weekend that's going to be nice every single day of the week. Big stuff for Penn State maybe they're starting to find the rhythm here in the new year you like to see it. Yep. A couple of hiccups around the right at the 10 mark number 11 Yukon they beat Vermont 4 1 at home on Friday but then lost 4 2 on Saturday Vermont's had some good wins this year and then 10 Dartmouth tied Clarkson at home. Cp on Friday say it with me dude Clarkson Clarkson Clarkson Clarkson always giving people fits it's crazy making some noise Dartmouth responded with a win over at St. Lawrence for nothing at home on Saturday but some minor minor stumbles there for 10 11 in the country. Yeah absolutely. BU 20th in the country they lost at home to Lole 4 3 and OT on Friday but then they beat Lole at Lole 3 nothing on Saturday. I feel like this is BU's M O man they just splits all day they're going to stay in this like 25 to 20 to 18 ranking range because they just they they can never get the two wins in a weekend it feels like it's Take care home ice dude like they'll like they'll get these rebound wins on the road which is great but I'm like dude win in front of your fans. Yeah you'll turn from this whole season around beanpot right around the corner though we heard Cole Isman say that the beanpot changed the whole season last year so I'm very excited for that first two Mondays of February is going to be incredible. Yeah number 17 Minnesota State went to Michigan Tech lost 3-1 on Friday lost 4-1 on Saturday tough weekend Minnesota State slipping a little bit here in the in the new year once the calendar changed they've been a little bit trouble. Yeah number 6 Duluth St. Cloud on Friday they lost 6-0 but then they responded with a 5-3 win on Saturday at the end of the day this is a loss on the weekend for me. Oh you get pumped 6-6 rip to St. Cloud when you're the number 16 in the country and we keep talking about how Duluth people are sleeping on Duluth this that and the other 6-0 loss is no joke I know it's an in state situation but that is brutal stuff and it's not okay. It's not okay for Duluth that's gonna make them slip in our rankings I promise you that. Another huge tilt number 9 Denver went to number 5 NoDak NoDak won 5-0 on Friday and then Denver bounced back with 3-2 win on Saturday those are two fucking heavyweights and good win because if you jump to there if you're Denver I know it's on the road but you dump to there that's you know now I'm like oh shit it's preseason it's early season Denver again so good good recovery on that one that's tough place to play. Yeah and then rounding it out number 15 Augustana I feel like people sleep on the fact that Augustana is 15 in the country they beat Ferris State 4-0 on Friday and 4-3 in OT on Saturday two good wins I know unranked Ferris State but that's what we always say you have to beat unranked opponents and when you're a smaller school like this who's in a top 20 ranking spot you get a 2-0 weekend that's exactly what you want. Some fireworks over the weekend though we had the fight we had the dust up and I have I think what you might think is a crazy take on this CP. Go ahead. I absolutely hated this. Why? Dude I think. Let me let me say this so there was a massive fight over the weekend like this was just a full on hockey fight you had Sasha Boisvert who is a you know a big NHL prospect fighting Connor Eddy and like dude these these kids they take off their buckets they drop their gloves they get in a full tilt I was actually shocked to see how much the refs let it go. Yeah they let them fight I absolutely hated this not because I hate fighting not because I don't want the boys to you know have emotions and get in the mixer. I think this is insane given that they're both now tossed from the game and tossed what is their suspension now two games two games. If I'm on that team if I'm on BU I'm looking at Sasha and I'm going hey dude fuck you you're a super important player on this team we are ranked 20 in the league and we're losing the fucking you mass lol like we we can't lose you for two games. I if I'm on that BU team I'm pissed at him. That's that's my take that fighting is not allowed in college hockey for any new listeners who are unaware of this. It is not part of the game. It's not allowed and so many people who were like what are the refs doing getting involved there. This is another thing guys like if those kids fall and they smash their head or something like you got a whole bag of issues so don't get on the refs about getting involved. I just thought from a again I have no problem with fighting in general. I think if I'm a member of this team I'm pissed off my teammate. That's why I hate it because I'm like dude that's not allowed. You just got kicked out of this game so you're hurting us for this game and now you're suspended for two games. You're an important player. You're hurting us for this season. If I'm on that team I'm trying to win a national championship. I'm trying to win hockey East. I'm trying to win a beanpot and like you're getting kicked out of the game doesn't help us. Yeah I those are all the rights. That's the right thing to say. I guess my only issue with I don't even that mad about the penalty because it's not allowed. These are the rules like you have to follow the rules and I was actually afraid they were going to get tossed for the fucking year. Like I literally thought they might be like you're done for the rest of the year. So I was like please don't freak out and throw the book at them. So two games I'm honestly like OK that was that was fine because you're trying to set an example but you didn't completely overreact. I guess I just didn't love Steve Steve Metcalf who's the hockey's commissioner and I know he has a job to do and as I just said these are the rules. But his comment on it was like what took place on the ice Friday night was entirely unacceptable and has no place in college hockey. And I'm like I just I guess that language was a little harsh for me where it's like dude this is in the game like this is in the game of hockey. And I think I have said I like that's in the game of hockey. I think you agree with that where yes you're not supposed to fight in college. But I think if they went hey fighting's allowed nobody not nobody certainly because some people hate fighting in the pros but many people would not care at all. They think it's awesome. They go wow you can fight in college now that's cool. I actually don't need to open this whole can of worms about what I think about fighting in college. But I get what you're saying. I get my point is just just it going like the way he was like that was a disgusting act. And I'm like bro fighting is people fight in hockey. Like yeah these guys got in a fight. It wasn't a disgusting act. I wish you had just gone like unfortunately that's not in the rules so they will be punished accordingly. You know it's just being like it's there's no place for that. And I was like well there is a place for it actually. I completely agree with that take. I think calling it disgusting is such a clutching your pearls. It's a shut up. You know I just thought it was dumb. The reason I hate that's where I thought it was dumb. Yep I thought it was so dumb. I it's it's it's like honestly my take on anything it's the liar liar clip of Jim Carrey grabbing the phone and going stop breaking the law asshole. Yes that is how I feel every time someone breaks the law or doesn't follow a rule. Yep there are rules in this game. There are rules in life. Follow them and you won't get in trouble. The picture is so sick though. And yeah it's it's so sick. But yeah I stand by my take. I mean I remember I remember being on teams in my life and got I mean go back all the way back to high school. When a guy on my team would get kicked off the team for however many games for drinking getting caught drinking. I'd be like you are an asshole. You are hurting this team because you wanted to be cool and drink beer and then you got caught. You're a moron. And it's like anytime something like that happened I was like you're an asshole. The teammate who breaks a rule and gets kicked off a team is an asshole. Agree agree agree agree. That is that. Alright let's get into our new rankings. I think we got to be in one two obvious one two obvious. Well I think it's Michigan Michigan State. Yeah yeah 100% and Wisconsin. Dude I want to go Western Michigan. Respect fine. I'm pretty sure that's the right. I think Western Michigan is number three in the official rankings right now so that's fine with me. They've been incredible and they beat Wisconsin so I'm like they're going three. Okay so yeah we're going Michigan Michigan State Western Michigan. Yup. Now Wisconsin. I would go I would be down with Wisconsin or North Dakota. I like Wisconsin more than North Dakota. I just think Wisconsin is a better team still even with the weekend results. So I think we go Wisconsin. No DAC. No DAC is now five. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yup Michigan Michigan State Western Michigan Wisconsin. No DAC at five. So now we got six through 10. I like Quinnipiac here. Ooh. I'm dude Chris Duluth. They're getting peepy whack dude. They're getting peepy whack. They're in trouble. Okay yeah let's go Quinnipiac six and then I just go. Okay yeah let's go Quinnipiac six and then I Dan would go I'd go Penn State seven. Completely agree. To give them some love because like great job. They deserve it. They deserve the love so let's go Quinnipiac six Penn State seven. Yup. So now we've got Denver Dartmouth. Duluth. Denver tough loss but had a loss Dartmouth little slip up. Oh we haven't put Duluth in yet. Okay yeah then let's go Duluth eight. Duluth eight. Just because I think they are that good. They are pretty good and yeah that's a good enough punishment. We're dropping them down to what were they six now we're going to drop them to eight. I'm okay with that. Yup I want to reward Providence because they had a great weekend. I know. Do does Providence get top 10 for us though? I think so. I mean I like Providence over BC obviously. Yup. I still like them a little bit more than Yukon. Yeah because like Yukon had a bad loss. But do I like them more than Denver and Dartmouth? Because we've got nine ten available here and we've got Denver Dartmouth Providence. Yeah I want to reward them for the wins because Dartmouth tied Clarkson. But I could go Denver nine but Denver was nine and that's a tough lot. I mean they lost to NoDac at NoDac. It's a hard game. It's a hard game. So I could keep them nine if we want and go nine Providence ten or I could go Providence nine Denver ten. So you're you're deading Dartmouth. Dartmouth out Yukon out. You lost. You tied. Good day. Okay I think we got to go Denver nine Providence ten. Providence ten. Done. Done. That is Netters College puck drop. Actually no it's not. Game of the week. Game of the week Dan. Big one for me. Big one for everyone. Big one for the world. Big one for College hockey fans. Western Michigan at Minnesota Duluth Friday Saturday. Two teams that at times have looked like the best team in the country. So this is this is a foreman. This is Ali Frazier. You know can't wait going to be an absolute battle this weekend. I will find myself in front of a TV with ways to illegally stream that game. Thank you very much. I love it. I absolutely love it. 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Yeah, yeah basically something came up, a story came up and then people were so divided and I was shocked at the controversy so I needed to know where you guys net out. So I'll start with the basic. I'll start with the baseline. If you are at the gym and I'm not saying you're working out at home, I'm saying you are at a gym, any gym, fitness, equinox, whatever. How do you react if someone talks to you? If a stranger at the gym talks to you? Baseline question. You get your headphones in dude and you're like they're like yo and then you go and then you go like this. Sorry I couldn't hear you. My headphones were in. What did you say? How do you feel in that moment? This is complicated because I think for me I'm fine with a hello. I'm fine with a quick comment. Maybe someone sees my shirt and it's a shirt that they have something in common with and they just want to say something quickly. If I, when I go like this, one ear butt out. You now have 30 to 45 seconds to converse with me. I'll tell you. Just to be clear, Ted, are you actually fine with a just hello? If that person goes, you go boop and they go hey and you go is that it? Absolutely because I'll tell you this buddy, if we get to a place in society where we're chastising folks for saying hello to each other, then we're falling apart. I'm a big, we need more kindness in today's day and age. How nice is it man when you're walking down the street and someone just goes, how are you? You're like, yeah, but that was kind of nice. You're walking past them and it's kind of like I'm not going to mug you on the middle of this empty street. Yeah. But like if you're in the middle of, I mean Dan, I'm guessing you're like bench pressing like 250 at least. The, you're in the middle of doing that and someone comes up and they go hi and you go what? You put it down and take out your air pod. You're like what? And they go hi. And then they put their shit back in and leave shot. Dan goes like it's kindest baby. Good, thank you. No. Nice to see you too. All right. All right. No, we're not, I'm not saying come and interrupt people's workouts. That's a little too much. But if you're just like walking through the gym or like coming out of the locker room or something and someone's just like, hey, like that's fine. But because you can do that with the pod still in. Like I do that. I'll be like, hey, yes. And then whatever. Yeah. I'm not saying say hi while people are in the middle of a set. Well, let's, let's remove the high thing. If someone comes up to say something. Yes. When I go like this, you got 30 to 45 seconds and I'll tell you what, if you see me motion back in, don't you dare have an add on. There are no add ons. Once the air pod goes back in, our interaction is over. I do think I was talking to someone about this the other day. It's like I, if you're at the gym with a friend and it's a weekend and maybe you've got some time, I'm okay with like a kind of leisurely social gym session where you're taking your time with exercise and you're kind of like hanging out as long as you're not interrupting other people and having people wait on you. Because I, I will say when you're in a crowded gym, there are a few things more frustrating than when you're watching someone just to yuck it up with their buddy when you're trying to like wait for a machine or wait for something that I feel like the gym for a lot of people is like, I've got maybe one hour in here. I need to be as efficient as humanly possible. So please no one do anything to disrupt that. Dude, wouldn't you say like you just said a lot of people. So I know you're, you agree, but I'm like, I think that it's like that for 98% of people. I know people personally that are like, I go to the gym and chill. Like I want to be, I'm going to just leisurely be here for hours. But dude, I have like worked backwards from when I arrived at the gym. Like I know exactly how long my work is going to take and I have worked backwards for my daily schedule to arrive at the gym at that time. Yeah. So if someone literally derails me for five minutes, just being like cool shirt. I went to college there too. I'm like, get away from me. You I have now missed the workout. I have now missed an exercise because this five minutes cost me the ab curler. Dude, and now I'm dead and I got to go now. But wouldn't it like make a big difference if it was like, I think it's like what they're telling you is going to be a huge, huge thing. Like if they're just coming up and they're going like, Hey, I like your shirt. Do you like Pokemon or whatever's on your shirt? Like that's kind of lame. But someone comes up and goes, Hey, I'm a big empty netters fan. You know, the ab curler then. Dude, hold on. Hey, you want to get a coffee? Everyone. Everyone time out. Sean casually throwing in there the possibility that Chris is in the gym with a Pokemon shirt on dude. My squirtle cut off. My squirtle cut off. Absolutely fucking incredible. That you would think that I know it's hard to believe. I don't go to the gym very often. I'm not very familiar with what the attire is. I'm wearing a train shirt right now. If you remember. Yeah. That's true. Well, I mean, I, yeah, I, I think you're a little hot. I mean, how many times are you in the gym, Chris? And you see, I mean, there are people just chilling. I think it's like less than 98%. But it is. Yeah. But I mean, I think a quick, Hey, go, go Miami. There's nothing wrong with that. Yo, yeah. You can live with that. But what if, what if then it's, okay, so now we're entering a couple levels up of this of the controversy. Okay. So, it's a form conversation. What if someone, a stranger comes up to you and they go, Hey, just saw you, I noticed you doing those, those shoulder presses and actually you're, you're, you're back, you're a little bit forward. And if you really want to get the most out of that workout, you got to keep your arms back and whatever. You're getting unsolicited form advice from a stranger. If you're, if you are, you guys, and you've been doing this all day every day for decades, and like, I could see you guys being pissed off with that. If that was me and I'm like, I have no clue what I'm doing. So it depends on how long I've been at the gym for and how long I've been doing these things. I think I actually, I have an interesting take on this one. I act truly if this comes to the caveat, as most things do with me, if the person knows what they're talking about, I love when people do that. I, I, it's, you know, the, the times in my life where someone has come up to me in the gym and given me either advice to fix form or to go, Hey, if you like this workout, you'll love this. And it's actually knowledgeable and great. I love it. I think that's what the gym and gym culture is all about. But if this person is some jammok and they have no clue what they're talking about, I will turn into you, Chris. I'd be like, you have just wasted time in my life that I will never get back. Sir. Kindly get away. Curler, dude. The ab curler is now dead and you cost me everything. Yeah. That's a tough one. That's a great. Yeah. That's great. So it sounds like you're okay with the idea of like a gym. And there's like, Danny, you obviously went to F 45 for a while where it's kind of like a class and you have, I don't know why I feel that's different, but just I can accept that you have a friend. You can't talk in like a Barry's class. Right. Yeah. But I, but if you were like always at the same Barry's class with someone, I get that you'd be like, we're friends now. Like I see you at the gym. Correct. But I sounds like you guys are okay with the idea of just like a random person you see at your L A at your equinox all the time. If that person, the first day goes, hey, with the pod in, and then the second day goes, boop, love the squirtle cutoff. And you go, thank you. And then the third day, it's like, yo, dude, if you like this exercise, this one's even sicker. And then the fourth day, now you're friends. Like now, now you guys, now you do pause when you see each other and you go, yo, dude, boom, boom, boom, do your handshake. No, no, no, it's good. Be careful. Because like I said, I don't care if we're, I don't care if you're the groomsman in my wedding, you still only have 45 seconds. Oh, really? Yes. Even when you become boys with that guy. Yes. Because, wow. And again, as long as it's not weekend chill time, because I'm a Wednesday, dude. It's a Wednesday. I am like you. You could be in the, again, you could be in my wedding and I do not have time to spare during the week. I am on a very regimented, time sensitive situation. I don't care if you're my dad. I am not talking to you for more than 45 seconds because I don't have 45 seconds to give. So what if he goes, Dan, what if you establish that? So he knows. So then he sees you Wednesday and goes, boop, and then he goes, it's my birthday on Saturday. We're going to waterfront at 7 p.m. It'd be really fun if you can come. You can bring up plus 100. It just gives you 45 seconds of a weekend plan. And then you go, I'll answer you tomorrow. If, if, if he did that, unfortunately that was the full 45 seconds. If he did that, I would kiss him on the mouth because I would go, you honor and respect my time, sir. If he straight up took a, an ACE Ventura, inhale and unloaded 45 seconds of information. I'd be like, God bless you, Sam. Okay. Okay. So hold on. Hold on. I, I want to pitch Sean this idea because I feel like you have heard this idea before. What do you think about this, Sean? I think gyms in general are, there's so many elements about gym life. I think gyms have become too expensive and it sucks how if you want a nice gym experience like an equinox, for example, and you have a steam room, you have a sauna, you have nice showers and products and stuff like that, you have to be okay with paying $350 a month for a gym, which feels asinine to me, but you know, you got to pay for what you want. I think maybe not all gyms, but there should be a gym chain that operates like an airline in that you can earn points. So if you go to the gym every day, like if you are a gym goer, you are logging hours, you're putting in time. I think you should get rewards and either like pay less or maybe it unlocks things. Maybe not everyone can use the steam room. Right. But if you are, if you're equinox platinum, you can, you can get in. All right. Okay. I don't like this. I think that would maybe incentivize people even more to hit their gym goals. I don't like this class, class structure that you have created. It wasn't class at first, Sean. It was just like, Oh, you get a free month from miles. Yeah. And then I made it quickly. I made it class. I have, I have two. I accidentally made it classes. I'm sorry. I agree with you for the brief times of my life where I have been going to a gym. It has been prohibitively expensive. Yeah. They're crowded. Two options, which I think might be better. The first option is advertising every piece of equipment, every wall, every surface, like has Coca-Cola on it or like Nestle. Yes. Whoa. And you're working out and it's free because you're inside the most advertising like space you've ever seen. It's like, again, where in there, Sean, crazy brands to, to, to say in the gym, which is sugar coke chocolate. Well, it's like, you know, you got to make them break their, you know, I think, I mean, that was brilliant. No, he's right, Dan. It's pizza. And like, pizza hut on the fucking when you're in the gym. KFC and pizza hut. Yeah. You're in the gym and you're like, I'm putting a workout. I deserve a nice sweet treat after this. Maybe I'll grab a Coke and a Nestle's crunch bar. You could also go the other way with option number two. So that was like the extreme capitalist version. The extreme communist version is that all gyms are government mandated. They're free. You don't want your population getting fat. Yeah. But only are they free. You're mandated to go. Wow. Dude, there's someone knocking on doors at night. Like did you go to the gym? Let me see your gym card. And you're like, yes. And you have to punch in, you know, and you show the time, but people are forging gym cards now. So there's a whole nother business. We're creating jobs now. We're creating jobs and creating the economy. Yeah. It's incredible. The gym Gestapo coming around. Yeah. You skipped out on Jim day. Like, no, no, please. We saw it. We saw it. Pizza hut. Your drag gets busted in. It's the gym secret service. And they're like, you haven't been working out, pal. So there's no in between. Those are the two options for free gym. It's like it's like mandated military service in South Korea. This is mandatory gym time in the US. I think people would be better for it. I know. Okay. Look, if I had prison time facing me, if I didn't go to the gym, I would definitely go to the gym more often. I think it's a good point. And this is the this is the last level of the controversy from this topic. Okay. Because we seem pretty aligned on, you know, whatever, everyone's on a crunch, but be friendly. All good. Do you flirt at the gym? Can you meet a significant other at the gym? If there is a girl and kind of specifically in that direction, if there's a girl working out, can the dudes come up and be hitting on her at the gym while she's trying to do squats? No, absolutely not. Not while they're in the middle of a set. Well, not in the middle of a set, but like, you know, she finishes and you go, how many more, how many more you got? You almost don't get it. Well, here's the thing. I I'm not going to be the one to stand in the way of love. I would never do that. And I think a huge part of relationships and love is finding mutual interests. You're in a place where you clearly have a mutual interest and how many relationships. I mean, I'm in one of them. A huge thing for Alice and myself is our love for exercise and working out. We work out together all the time. It's great. So why would I not want to live in a world where other people might find that? However, I think. Approaching someone in the gym with romantic intent is possibly the most delicate thing on earth. Like it is. You gotta be leaving people alone in the gym unless you are absolutely certain there is an opening for a hello or a conversation. So I I I don't know what the rules are there, but all I will say is I want to live in a world where it's possible because you might find your person. But be be careful. Be careful because I think it's a dangerous game. It's going to be super awkward. Like if you get rejected and now you still have only that one gym time that you have to go. Yeah, Sean, it's like it's it's the four o'clock in the morning time when no one's there. Yeah, it's just the two of you every day. Every day now. Yeah. Although if there are two people at a four AM gym session, those two should be married. So you got to take that shot. I think I think no, Dan, I think you're right. And you got to you you should be able to shoot your shot. But I almost think you have to wait till a time when when she's leaving. Yes, that's the way outside. You know, hey, just well, say hi. See you all time. Careful. Don't call her. Call her. Call her. Get a bag. You get a bag. You put it over her head. You shove her in the back of your car. You drive to an undisclosed destination. No, yeah, like, you know, in and out, in and out. That feels OK. I think instead of instead of mids, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, mid, workout, maybe, maybe at the smoothie bar. Yeah, that's the dream. Yeah, maybe at the smoothie bar, maybe. Maybe when you're. Sitting at the front desk, I don't know. Is the gym not like the perfect place for the slow burn, though, rather than just going up cold and being like, Hey, I like when you do squats. You want to go see a movie with me? Dude, you put it's fold out chair in front of the squat. We're actually watching. Yeah, it's more ideal that you do the whole like hey nice squirtle shirt And then the next time you go hey blah blah blah and then you know over the course of like you know a couple weeks Maybe at that point now I should make a move at this point since we've already Yeah made a rapport. I think yes whoever you're approaching in the gym. I think you're right Sean It's it is the it's the Instagram reels that we've all seen it's the slow progression. It's the Maybe you throw a high just uh, hey, how are you? Next time I love squirtle too. Yep next time Looks like we're on the same Schedule we're here all the time, you know and then if there is If the earbud out is getting longer and longer seems like maybe there's some mutual interest Talk to this person and say maybe you and I go get a blueberry banana smoothie together after this and bang bang I do have one question about Jim's nowadays Do you find that these mythical gyms? Are people not listening to music are they generally more conversational are people going to add like going to the gym without Know God no, I'll strike up conversation I I can't remember the last time I saw a human in a gym without their own personal headphones on and frankly If I did see that I would call the police on them immediately Dude agree and Sean we actually had this conversation too because and this is I know I'm aging ourselves But there there were moments in my life where I was going to the gym regularly before there was like I there was always like Walkman and shit But like I just never was gonna clip a fucking CD player to my waistband, you know So I have stretches of life where I was a regular gym goer where you're just listening to the music they're pumping on the on the like the speakers and Conversation was way easier because you were like hey, I'm just sitting here You know I actually really think gym interactions have gone way down with the invention of the iPod and all this shit because it's like you're Now I'm now seeing people with the the the new Apple Over ear ones and it's like they're they're basically strapped into a Pillowcase that they can't see or hear you so they're hard to talk to the I'd rather talk to an AirPod guy than an over your guy over your people people are in their own world With the with the headphones out dude I don't I have to tell the story because it was so good There was a guy at the gym at the equinox in the marina with Sandra and He she he like walked up She was on a machine and he and I think they have seen each other many times. It wasn't like a complete cold open Walking up sure he walks up and and asks If she has one more set or something, you know, or just a company sets you up left and she's like one one more and She's kind of like about to put her headphone back in and he goes What do you what are you doing today? And it's like a isn't like a Saturday morning, Sean? You know she goes. What do you what are you doing today? And she's like I'm having brunch with my boyfriend, you know because which wasn't even true like we didn't have plans You know, but she was just like I have a boyfriend and I need you to not be hitting on me while I'm doing no Sandra she's one of those she goes I'm having brunch with my boyfriend and he goes no, I meant like Byes try it like what are what what are you working on today? And she was like, oh? I'm sorry. Hey, I'm doing arms Not everything's about you Sandra Yeah, I think he might be was asking That's like it lines you up perfectly to be like, oh, I wasn't actually interested I was just asking a workout you were doing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm on the arm machine Chris do you think I'm doing she is she's like I'm getting brunch with my boyfriend and he's like, yeah me too I meant what yeah Then he's at with us Dan. It's the three of us. He's like I was also getting brunch with Chris. What are you talking about? Oh? my god, oh Jim Jim etiquette. It's a tough one. Let's jump on into a beer league hotline Sean What do we got today? All right? We have a new guy on the team and we can tell right away. He's pretty good Then after the game, it's shower time. He pulls out some shower sandals fine Then a shower kit with body wash With body wash shampoo and conditioner not a three-way all three So that's a little odd then homie pulls out a loofah The guy went in there with us chatting right the game not a care in the world while he was soaping his body with a yellow loofah Do we cut him? Do we all get loofahs? I Okay, the the the person who set this in Completely saved themselves with that last line. I am going to defend this man with my life with my life This is you know what this makes me think of I don't know if either of you are Seinfeld guys this is like when George is eating his snickers with a fork and knife There there's nothing wrong ever with classing up your life a little bit and frankly I think it is Hilarious Sean in beer league It is it is the most standard thing in the world that we all go into the showers Some with shower sandals some some would not and we use the shittiest Four five in one body wash shampoo conditioner face wash nonsense and and everyone just goes yeah, whatever That's what's normal. It's doing all the things it says it's doing You know what you know what yeah, you know what this is the exact same thing as Chris. This is someone who brings beautiful bottled Modellos instead of you know like that you're just classing things up. This is great I mean if I were in the showers and someone had a shower caddy with like nice Body wash shampoo and conditioner. I'd be like can I get some of that? I'd love to wash my hair with not body wash, but dude. I don't know though Dan Well, first of all, I think you might be right, but on that point I think I have no issue bombing your 23 and one, you know when I'm like, hey, dude I just I mean you do yeah, you just put your fucking hand out and I'm like here you go Yeah, bang and cuz I'm like this is this was five bucks and it's 23 and one who gives a fuck But I'm not sure you can be asking for the nice shit like if this guy comes in with a full set you can't be like This man that's fair I mean Chris I'm gonna ask if he says no you can't have my pantene pro Yeah, I don't know what's nice shampoo these days, but I I Feel like this is an awesome move. I mean the man is exfoliating He's he's taking care. He's going through his regiment and he's having fun in there. That's the first of all Absolutely, you do not cut this man like you protect this man at all costs. This is this is a genius here This this guy has taken things to the next level. Where is the loofah? After like does he throw the loofah in his bag? Tell me that's locks Go Cain's Does he put the loofah in his bag after like there's a you got a wet loofah Oh, I bet it's I bet it's just in his first of all. I mean a loofah. Yeah, like you can squeeze that out It's like a sponge, you know, it's it's not sopping wet But it sounds like he's got a shower caddy So I think he puts it back in the caddy which then goes back in the bag and then you just air that out when you get home I guess and also who are you acting like your hockey bag is this sacred place that something can't be wet in there It's just a gross place. That's what I was afraid of You're worried about the loofah. Yeah Imagine that he has some sort of like UV loofah case. That's right Like decontaminating it while it's in the yeah like UV light. That's what I'm thinking That's such a good call Sean like he is his loofah is going back in this case. It's drying it out It's sanitizing it immediately. This this he started his own business. This is his own brand I like this idea. I agree. This is also kind of a dominance thing when you show how comfortable you are You know, dude, let's get in that thing sudsy as fuck, dude, you know, that's like you're holding a snowball Bro, I think if he if he Get if they all start doing it and then they are good like if this team You change your team name to the loofahs When if they start winning championships and the whole shower is just loofahs everywhere You will start a revolution. I think you're fucking legal be chasing that high. Yeah, I mean the yeah So let's let's bring it back. Great call chris bring it back to the question You all get loofahs. Yeah, no question about it. No question about it. You all get loofahs And if you guys start buzzing frankly, maybe even if if you don't start buzzing I think the question for us three is do you change the team name to the loofahs or to the shower caddies Feel like shower caddies is kind of an awesome team name But loofahs is better. It's it it makes for a better logo is incredible. Yeah incredible the loofahs Yeah, I think that his loofah was like just a handheld sponge or was it one with the wooden stick? Oh It's the stick dude. I pray I was picturing handheld. I pray it's the stick. I pray it's a stick I've got a feeling it's a handheld Yeah, I have a I've a sickening feeling that's a handheld as well I hope it's a stick and he doesn't mention it. I'm also hoping he has like a shower cap in there too He can't get hair. Well, I don't think so because he's got shampoo and conditioner like this man's doing the full Yeah, bullshit bang but but shan like a cross stick loofah like instead of hockey sticks on the look get some get get a little bit of suds in the background of the logo there too Is that's interesting. There's something really incredible. I love this move. I love it Yeah, I think I mean he's a they say he's a pretty good player as well. So I mean, yeah He can do whatever he likes this man's just confident Yeah, and shan that makes a lot of the difference sometimes, you know, like if if you are a plug And you've got a loofah, maybe Maybe it's like, all right, dude enough of that But if when you're nasty and you've got a loofah then everybody gets loofahs. That's how the world works Unbelievable. Let's go to a bower hockey blind ranking bower All right, just are there are best friends. I love the guys. It's our I love bower products head to toe merch gear It's incredible. We got the pulse stick everybody's got a pulse on our team because we won't shut up about it And now it's the greatest stick on earth and Bower blind ranking is the greatest segment on earth. So we're gonna get into a bower blind ranking this time this week Sean we are blind ranking golly numbers Numbers if you are golly in the nhl, what number you wearing? How fucking cool is it according to us? And I'm gonna say before you start Sean chris chris Yes, this is their numbers. Don't don't make your don't let your ranking be affected by who you associate said number with But dan no, that's part of it Because players make numbers cool. No This 68 68 is a cool number Wait, yeah solely because of jogger like 68 was not a cool number at all. It's double even which is trash You hate that. Yeah, it's awful. I think and then also make I think you could make the argument I think you I think you could make the argument that it makes it even less cool because anyone else who wears it looks like a plug That well that that's part of it too that it can go all the way it can go too far, you know Like oh shit 68 not cool 68 now cool. Wow 68 not cool anymore because the auger is too good You're out of control Plays dan then are we just like picking our favorite numbers then? Yeah. Yes. That's what I want to do It's a I want to do and I want to do it Based on the number four a goalie like this. We're just ranking goalie numbers I will let a little bit of a player association player can make a number cool Yes, and I will let a little bit of player association leak in here, but not a lot Okay, I I can't help but know is that six seven is not an option nor is 69 Yeah, I don't think we've ever seen a goalie wear those numbers, but dude. I bet the six seven is coming I bet I bet six seven is coming Dan the new generation is going to get old We're going to have a couple professional hockey players from the who are kids right now And it's going to be that's going to happen. That's possible. Sure. All right, you guys ready? Yep. All right 34 I don't love this one. I you might be right dude. I don't love 34 Sean if you didn't pick up earlier. I I love odd numbers and hockey. I'm not a big even number guy in hockey That's how I introduce you to people. Yeah, it's not does not like even numbers Dan. He sneezes like crazy. He loves odd numbers. Yeah um 34 We've had some greats in 34. No doubt. No doubt But um, I'm going low here. I there are see there are ones. I like so much more Dan But but also there are ones I like way less like when I actually think about it I I don't feel as though 34 is that bad anymore. My knee jerk was it's it's bad, but now I actually don't think it's that bad Yeah, um I want to go four here I wanted to go three, but I hate three And you got to make a statement Okay, I'll go forward. No. No. I mean I just think there are great numbers. I don't want to I don't want to get I think four. Okay. Okay four four all right I feel like I'm playing hosting bingo at 74 I mean five Five now now I'm now I'm terrified because we should have gone three With 34, but this is five. No offense. You see sorrows, but 74 is like that is just an utterly Insane goalie. It's not cool. It's not like oh shit. That's sick. Um, I I do think it's sick when when goalies go in the 70s um Uh, you know bob right off of that 72. I'm like that's a that's cool that bob made that cool but 70s, I mean seven is my favorite number and I I goalies wearing Starting with the seven I find it strange, but it's cool when they make it sick And sorrows has made 74 cool, but I know 74 that is five Fuck Okay, but we might have fucked ourselves. We might have fucked Not with this one. I feel so confident with this at five, but I I am worried about what's coming next. Okay five 34 was four and yeah 74 is five And quick question. What's the is it two 99 can goalies have up to 99? Yes, you can but no one wears 99 in the league because of way, you know, I think it's literally retired now it is retired retired and um If a goalie wore 99 Sean I that would be one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life. I don't know if players would allow it But why don't they wonder if they did like 98 Dan if they came out and they're like I wear 98 would they be like no uh No, I think they'd be I think people would go that is crazy I mean a goalie wearing anything with a starting with a nine would be insane Okay, yeah, you're right. All right, you guys ready? Yeah one I Love it. I mean I love it. I love one and I love that guys are bringing it back shout out sway. I think one was was uh Yeah, two. I think so. Yeah. I one was a really old school classic goalie number And then it kind of went out of fashion away from it. We went away from it. I think we're bringing it back. I love it I love it too. I'm cool. I like it's a great. It's fucking clean as hell You gotta be good, but when it's good, you're like god, you're the fucking man. Okay. Yeah, give me two. Give me give me two on one all right 50 Fuck is six. Fuck six Okay, we gotta go three we literally have to go three and um We have to go three, but that should be lower and and we this can be salvaged and if a few things come up If you could come up at one it can be this can be it could be 50 is absolutely atrocious Just an awful awful awful goalie number. It's an awful number in general. Actually 50 might be the worst hockey number I hate five 50 steal your high school sweetheart. Yeah, I I think five is just such an ugly number. He's even numbers and five for some reason It's like I it's crazy. It's a crazy take. I know Sean 55 dan dan Rose up. I can't believe he pukes. I've seen him. Someone's hold up 55. He puked difficult for me that guys like Chris pronger and surga ganchar with our favorite players of mine And they were just skating around with 55 on their back and I was like, oh, what are you doing? Oh, terrible. All right. Okay. The number one the coolest goalie number on earth according to us is 70 Oh, this is a terrible list terrible list. What happened? Oh, no, dad, Chris. I of course, I think you haven't gone this badly in a long time I think you provided Sean with way too big of a list like you put on Absolutely bizarre and obscure numbers that like one guy in the history of the league has worn you fucking idiot and that's age He had every number in the universe that is to spoil every two digit number in the universe that is disposal So funny is Sean Numbers in the 30s are historically very goalie heavy and you said one of them Yep, and it was pretty good. That was pretty good. I got my knee jerk was like 34 stakes and I'm like actually he's pretty good I thought so many 30s were coming. All right. Well. Hey, listen, that's so hold on It's it's 71 One's good one 50 50 34 74 This is gonna go in the hall fame of maybe the worst blind ranking the empty netters podcast has ever done absolutely atrocious But oh, it's a kill. Chris cp. What do you think your favorite goalie number is 33? I think it's gotta be threes I think it's gotta be threes do are we like Who's who's rocking threes in the league right now other than hill? There's gotta be more true But I know there's more and I apologize if I'm not Thinking of them right now You know what's coming through coming um having a moment is like the high 20s Yeah, 29 good goalie number Um, I was on the list. I just didn't pick it. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. No. No. Hey, this is this is how we get better Yeah, yeah, exactly. Did you you store this you store this for future blind rankings? You remember what can happen if you're not fucking careful. Yeah. All right brutal blind ranking, but a great great episode Everyone happy mlk day We've got a really really fun interview and multiple fun interviews coming for you soon this week later this week We'll see you in our next episodes as we rip through and just enjoy every day together We love you until we see you next time skate hard You